When you put it that way... yeah the first descendant doesn't sound too bad in comparison lol. Since you enjoyed Warframe, will you try out TFD when it is released? Or maybe try out Soulframe?
getting ready to say the same thing, like Warframe Crafting times has made me numb. Between Warframe and BDO, I find this to a lot less of a grind from what I'm hearing. The only thing that might get annoying is drop chance and figuring out where things drop. I also here there's mods again but so long as there is no Vengeful Revenant I won't complain (still don't have that damn stance) Oh primed mods too those were a pain to get and an even greater pain to level.
you don't need to buy inventory slots you can get them from the journal as there are achievements to do which have them as rewards. Also, you upgrade weapons and reactors to improve their power not just equip the most powerfull.
The color wheel should be unlocked n free period and for special or legendary colors put em in the game behind missions or events and once unlocked it’s account wide and character wide for any/all gear
As a player, I would love for that to be the case. But I also expect them earn money somehow through cosmetics. So I wouldn't be opposed for limited or legendary colors to be behind a pay wall such as a season pass.
Colors should be Permanent. Once you buy a Color you can keep it for all your Descendants. The only things they should be selling are [Character Skins and Gun Skins] nothing more. The rest should be in-game materials you need to farm.
Inventory space in this game can be compared to the system in Path of Exile, where purchasing additional stash tabs becomes almost necessary for a convenient gaming experience. If Nexon manages this aspect reasonably, such as by offering 100 extra inventory slots for $10, it could create a positive player experience. Ideally, players should feel that while they can play the game without purchasing additional slots, spending a little money significantly enhances their enjoyment. The goal is to avoid a sense of necessity or suffering without the purchase and instead offer an optional upgrade that feels rewarding and worthwhile for those who choose to invest in it. This balanced approach can encourage support from players who appreciate the value and improved experience.
@@GeekMediaCentralyou have to get closer to the enemy to grapple the weak point. There is also a module that increases grapple range if it's something a player wants to equip.
They can do monetization well if its priced well and that its not bloated shit, so if they can i believe they can provide a well round game but my only down fall for this is when crafting they implemented a system if which warframe does and boy that is tedious ash so idk im worried on that part but other then that the game cool
From the changes they told us were happening during the Dev Update last week, they're starting to gain a bit more respect from the community. It looks like they're willing to review mechanics and features that the community by and large has issue with.
You complain about the wait time and the ability to buy and make it faster. But Warframe has been doing this for years. Idc if i have to wait for a time. I feel its a weak argument. Im excited af to play this again. And will be f2p cuz im broke
Yes, Warframe has been doing it for years. It is just my personal preference and one I've seen shared by others. I don't like developers time gating content so that you burn through premium currency.
@@GeekMediaCentral fair point but not game ending. For me, pay to get stronger faster is WAY better and more acceptable then pay to win. If they are selling power, then it would be a serious issue.
4:45 this would only make the game worse overall it makes sense on a game like LoL but not on a looter shooter. as we see many of those moba third person games and all of them kind of suck for a reason.
Finding out that’s it’s “heroes” not just custom characters is heart breaking they always put the best powers on the most unappealing characters it just doesn’t make sense for a game your going to continuously play
It's a f2p game developed in UE5 which is extremely expensive. Asking irl mone for paints is far from "excessive" as you say. It's pretty logical, they need to get their revenue from somewhere. The issue was the randomizer. Not the concept of paid paints or even the single time use. All of these kind of korean games have single time use paints.
@@heavensalanguit4951 no it is pay to look cool which is absolutely fine. ppl want everything to be free in a free game which is not reasonable at all. nexon gets the W for listening to their player base and taking out the randomizer.
That is true but warframe allows players to trade each other items for platinum. So essentially you can farm premium currency as much as you want without buying it. I'm not sure if first descendant has that or not. If it does then that's great.
As someone who plays Warframe I can see how all the problems you have maybe affect people who haven’t try a game like this or Warframe before. But if they are taking a page from DE book they maybe able to pull it off.
I believe this game is rather beginner friendly. It's not too hard to understand how things work and its PvE so help is always there and welcomed compared to PvP games. Descendant design in terms of what they can do/equipment they have. I do like how each is unique and good for certain situations; Bunny for example is a fun one to play if you enjoy speedrunning the missions around the world (Tried her in the crossplay beta) I'm not denying materials can be a grind (likely will be harder on official release) and void bosses are a fun element to the game because this is where teamwork will come into play (like harder areas) In the crossplay beta I couldn't get passed Hangman but I learned from my mistakes.
I agree. This game has just the right amount of customization and content for it to feel full but not complicated. Void bosses are a challenge I'm looking to take on as well.
@@ryanglacier30 yeah, that's how it's looking right now. But, I feel that pay to win in PVE is more accepted than in PVP, right? People would be in an uproar if you could pay to have more power in fighting games or MOBA's against other players.
@@GeekMediaCentral and typically people play with friends in these games so even if it does have "pay to win" most people won't see it unless they're joining pugs the whole time.
@@GeekMediaCentralpay to win in video games either gives you power or items not obtainable otherwise is it in game like a crazy powerful weapon or armour that can only be purchased?
@GeekMediaCentral 6:11 mastery xp carries over even if you have a rank up availible and dont do it i had up to three rank ups to claim at a single time
@@Dead1yProductions LOL ah alright! Well, that's good to know. After some additional information the last few days I'm looking forward to this game more than ever!
@@GeekMediaCentral I do worry about Nexon , but it seems the head developer has been listening to the community if you saw the devstream yesterday or 2 days ago
From what I have played of this game it is by far the most fun looter shooter out there, The one thing that blows my mind beyond belief is the utter audacity of the self deserving mind of todays society, People now complain about everything you could give them a million dollars and the very next thing out of their mouth would be why didn't you give me a million and one, No wonder gaming companies are going bankrupt, You can't satisfy todays society.
Let me play devil's advocate for a second. Don't you think people are able to critique a game during its pre-release phase? If a developer was ever going to acknowledge feedback I would think that's the time.
@@GeekMediaCentral Sadly the victim of incompetent leadership and Destiny 2 creators giving terrible feedback. Instead of fixing the game and adding progression, which it actually needed, they spend 5 months making ONE raid which made all other content in the game obsolete, just like the D2 creators wanted. It was dead 3 weeks later. You maybe hear about Anthem 2.0 - that was a hoax created to cover for the fact that Bioware claimed it would be a live service game.
@@NeightrixPrime whoa. that's a tragic end for anthem. its tough to believe d2 creators purposely sabotaged anthem. maybe it was just lack of foresight for what the raid would bring about.
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well crafting in warfarme takes 6-72h so this is not bad at all
When you put it that way... yeah the first descendant doesn't sound too bad in comparison lol. Since you enjoyed Warframe, will you try out TFD when it is released? Or maybe try out Soulframe?
@@GeekMediaCentral ill play both 1.5k hours in Warframe and imo the first descendant looks amazing
@@azorat1976 we're in agreement there! I"m looking forward to June 7th. They're giving us more information and likely the release date!
getting ready to say the same thing, like Warframe Crafting times has made me numb. Between Warframe and BDO, I find this to a lot less of a grind from what I'm hearing. The only thing that might get annoying is drop chance and figuring out where things drop. I also here there's mods again but so long as there is no Vengeful Revenant I won't complain (still don't have that damn stance) Oh primed mods too those were a pain to get and an even greater pain to level.
you don't need to buy inventory slots you can get them from the journal as there are achievements to do which have them as rewards. Also, you upgrade weapons and reactors to improve their power not just equip the most powerfull.
Need a new video to revise the misinformation in this especially in a beta.
The color wheel should be unlocked n free period and for special or legendary colors put em in the game behind missions or events and once unlocked it’s account wide and character wide for any/all gear
As a player, I would love for that to be the case. But I also expect them earn money somehow through cosmetics. So I wouldn't be opposed for limited or legendary colors to be behind a pay wall such as a season pass.
@@GeekMediaCentral exactly how I feel homie
Colors should be Permanent. Once you buy a Color you can keep it for all your Descendants.
The only things they should be selling are [Character Skins and Gun Skins] nothing more.
The rest should be in-game materials you need to farm.
I whole heartedly agree! Unlock the color once and keep it! It just feels so scammy for it to be one time use.
Coming from Warframe , pretty much everything is a non-issue.
Sweet! So you'll be giving this game a shot?
Inventory space in this game can be compared to the system in Path of Exile, where purchasing additional stash tabs becomes almost necessary for a convenient gaming experience. If Nexon manages this aspect reasonably, such as by offering 100 extra inventory slots for $10, it could create a positive player experience. Ideally, players should feel that while they can play the game without purchasing additional slots, spending a little money significantly enhances their enjoyment. The goal is to avoid a sense of necessity or suffering without the purchase and instead offer an optional upgrade that feels rewarding and worthwhile for those who choose to invest in it. This balanced approach can encourage support from players who appreciate the value and improved experience.
Good take. PoE does a good job of selling premium stash tabs with utility for organization or trading. Would be nice to have something similar in TFD.
Really good observations, I agree with everything
Right on! Are you excited for the official release on 7/2?
@@GeekMediaCentral In hype but with caution 😬
There is a specific time when you can hook yourself on the Colossus.
Not a bug.
I tried multiple instances. But, i must not have got it quite right. Thank you for the help.
@@GeekMediaCentralyou have to get closer to the enemy to grapple the weak point. There is also a module that increases grapple range if it's something a player wants to equip.
They can do monetization well if its priced well and that its not bloated shit, so if they can i believe they can provide a well round game but my only down fall for this is when crafting they implemented a system if which warframe does and boy that is tedious ash so idk im worried on that part but other then that the game cool
From the changes they told us were happening during the Dev Update last week, they're starting to gain a bit more respect from the community. It looks like they're willing to review mechanics and features that the community by and large has issue with.
@@GeekMediaCentral okays makes more since then, I'm lookin forward to it
You complain about the wait time and the ability to buy and make it faster. But Warframe has been doing this for years. Idc if i have to wait for a time. I feel its a weak argument. Im excited af to play this again. And will be f2p cuz im broke
Yes, Warframe has been doing it for years. It is just my personal preference and one I've seen shared by others. I don't like developers time gating content so that you burn through premium currency.
@@GeekMediaCentral fair point but not game ending. For me, pay to get stronger faster is WAY better and more acceptable then pay to win. If they are selling power, then it would be a serious issue.
@Lyconas Warframe definitely sells power. It's just that it can be earned as well
@@LurnWell not wrong.
So did Clash of Clans. And look how popular both those games were.
Is the demo still out?
Unfortunately not... but they announced today that official release is on 7/2!
4:45 this would only make the game worse overall it makes sense on a game like LoL but not on a looter shooter. as we see many of those moba third person games and all of them kind of suck for a reason.
Any particular reason why it wouldn't work?
Was hopeful that i could sink countless of hours in but the pay 2 win BS im passing on this
Thank you for the comment! And yeah, fair enough... I think this game will rub a lot of people the wrong way from the get go.
Finding out that’s it’s “heroes” not just custom characters is heart breaking they always put the best powers on the most unappealing characters it just doesn’t make sense for a game your going to continuously play
Good point. But I'm having trouble thinking of games that give you that much freedom. I feel like most games nowadays lock abilities behind a "class".
It's simple,,just copy warframe trade system n apex battle pass road map,,
It's a f2p game developed in UE5 which is extremely expensive. Asking irl mone for paints is far from "excessive" as you say. It's pretty logical, they need to get their revenue from somewhere.
The issue was the randomizer. Not the concept of paid paints or even the single time use. All of these kind of korean games have single time use paints.
Pay to win dude😅
@@heavensalanguit4951 no it is pay to look cool which is absolutely fine. ppl want everything to be free in a free game which is not reasonable at all. nexon gets the W for listening to their player base and taking out the randomizer.
Wareframe does the same thing...makes you use platinum to buy space
That is true but warframe allows players to trade each other items for platinum. So essentially you can farm premium currency as much as you want without buying it. I'm not sure if first descendant has that or not. If it does then that's great.
That definitely sounds like a system they should implement!
Character and inventory slots, yes. But Warframe doesn't have a cap on raw resources. That restriction is very, very petty.
As someone who plays Warframe I can see how all the problems you have maybe affect people who haven’t try a game like this or Warframe before. But if they are taking a page from DE book they maybe able to pull it off.
I haven't played warframe before (looking forward to Soulframe!). But the time gating seems a bit much for me.
Im still going to play it, its free after all
Awesome! That's what I like to hear 👏
I believe this game is rather beginner friendly. It's not too hard to understand how things work and its PvE so help is always there and welcomed compared to PvP games. Descendant design in terms of what they can do/equipment they have. I do like how each is unique and good for certain situations; Bunny for example is a fun one to play if you enjoy speedrunning the missions around the world (Tried her in the crossplay beta) I'm not denying materials can be a grind (likely will be harder on official release) and void bosses are a fun element to the game because this is where teamwork will come into play (like harder areas) In the crossplay beta I couldn't get passed Hangman but I learned from my mistakes.
I agree. This game has just the right amount of customization and content for it to feel full but not complicated. Void bosses are a challenge I'm looking to take on as well.
I played the Alpha demo in 2022, I thought it was good then, I played their Combat Arms in 2008
Oh nice! Are you going to try TFD on full release too?
Pay to win no thanks pass!!!
Respectable take. What're you currently playing?
Pay to win on a PVE only game?
@@ryanglacier30 yeah, that's how it's looking right now. But, I feel that pay to win in PVE is more accepted than in PVP, right? People would be in an uproar if you could pay to have more power in fighting games or MOBA's against other players.
@@GeekMediaCentral and typically people play with friends in these games so even if it does have "pay to win" most people won't see it unless they're joining pugs the whole time.
@@GeekMediaCentralpay to win in video games either gives you power or items not obtainable otherwise is it in game like a crazy powerful weapon or armour that can only be purchased?
@GeekMediaCentral 6:11 mastery xp carries over even if you have a rank up availible and dont do it i had up to three rank ups to claim at a single time
Oh damn! Is that right? My mistake then. I must not have paid close enough attention to my rank mastery bar. Thank you for correcting me 🙏
@@GeekMediaCentral yea it carries over i waited till mastery 5 at 1 point because i was playing with people and did not wanna leave lol
@@Dead1yProductions LOL ah alright! Well, that's good to know. After some additional information the last few days I'm looking forward to this game more than ever!
@@GeekMediaCentral I do worry about Nexon , but it seems the head developer has been listening to the community if you saw the devstream yesterday or 2 days ago
@@Dead1yProductions Yes, I'm pleasantly surprised that the game director has been updating us with promising changes going forward.
From what I have played of this game it is by far the most fun looter shooter out there, The one thing that blows my mind beyond belief is the utter audacity of the self deserving mind of todays society, People now complain about everything you could give them a million dollars and the very next thing out of their mouth would be why didn't you give me a million and one, No wonder gaming companies are going bankrupt, You can't satisfy todays society.
Let me play devil's advocate for a second. Don't you think people are able to critique a game during its pre-release phase? If a developer was ever going to acknowledge feedback I would think that's the time.
@@GeekMediaCentral
Great vid! Your points were 100% fair and reasonable.
Thank you so much for your comment! Let's see what Nexon reveals tomorrow!
ANTHEM 💔🗿💔
I never got to try that game. But, I hear the community wishing that it was given a better chance at success!
@@GeekMediaCentral yeah EA sucks right now
It could have been a great game if they did the canceled update
@@GeekMediaCentral Sadly the victim of incompetent leadership and Destiny 2 creators giving terrible feedback. Instead of fixing the game and adding progression, which it actually needed, they spend 5 months making ONE raid which made all other content in the game obsolete, just like the D2 creators wanted. It was dead 3 weeks later. You maybe hear about Anthem 2.0 - that was a hoax created to cover for the fact that Bioware claimed it would be a live service game.
@@NeightrixPrime whoa. that's a tragic end for anthem. its tough to believe d2 creators purposely sabotaged anthem. maybe it was just lack of foresight for what the raid would bring about.
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Will be live streaming this game
@@grim_tobe Awesome!
July 2nd can't get here. Fast