Don't Buy A Warmoth Neck Before Watching This | Should You Build or Buy Your Guitar?

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  • @therangersinger
    @therangersinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Warmoth makes great stuff. Nothing but top quality from anything I have purchased from them. And I have purchased a lot over the last 10 years. Great company.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes they do! I’d happily build a Warmoth and choose it over 95% of the guitars I’ve ever played

    • @martinportelance138
      @martinportelance138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Personally customized guitars, delivered by mail looks like the future. Problem is, it's way more expensive, and I hesitate buying an instrument I didn't try hands-on before.

    • @therangersinger
      @therangersinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@martinportelance138 you are the one ordering the parts and putting it together. And the price point is great.

  • @Just-Michael
    @Just-Michael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm left handed and have never been particularly fond of the selection we get and end up modding all of my guitars in some way. I decided to go full custom in 2020 and I now have quite a unique guitar. There were definitely some things that I overlooked when building it out that I would change if I were to do it again, but what I got is still pretty close to what I wanted. If you think you've researched enough, research a little more. XD

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% agree. Research as much as possible because there might be instances where you don’t know what you don’t know….
      And yeah I feel for the lefties out there… not a whole lot of options for your guitar GAS

  • @James-hr4fu
    @James-hr4fu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now Iam thinking? I bought a strat for 500.00 with an asametrical neck on it and I loved it! Pawned it, because money was tight. But now I want it back! But, yes but, what you said makes all the sense in the world of guitar necks , shape, style ect. So now Iam THINKING! AND DONT KNOW WHAT TO GET! I'll probably start shaving a few strat/ tele necks and see what happens. But thank you!

  • @martinbedford4530
    @martinbedford4530 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have bought many Warmoth necks, most with steel frets. I obviously like their necks but do have a minor complaint about the fingerboard edges. I think they should soften the edges a bit for a better playing feel. Otherwise they make some of the best after market necks.

  • @revtimewest
    @revtimewest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have many warmoth necks. I have a couple warmoth bodies. I have done the finish myself and let them finish them. Every piece I have gotten from warmoth is "fantastic" lol. Pull em outta the box and screw em together and play the snot out of them.
    Am I just lucky? Or are warmoth parts that good?

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe a little bit of both ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @CerealDust-nStuff
    @CerealDust-nStuff ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bought a guitar neck from Warmoth years ago and the fret-work was just absolutely terrible. Recently, I purchased a guitar neck from Warmoth that had stainless steel jumbo frets and the fretwork was… wait for it… *absolutely horrible* :(

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤔

    • @autodidacticprofessor869
      @autodidacticprofessor869 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      With no knowledge of your expectations, if the fretwork was bad and it's within the time-frame of the warranty, you should have sent it back. If you expected a neck with full fret leveling, polishing and crowning, you're expectations were wrong. They aren't a guitar company. Their job is not to set up your guitar and make sure your action is 1mm from the strings. If that's what you want, you have to have the frets leveled and crowned AFTER the strings have been on it, the neck gets used to your climate/humidity levels, the truss rod is properly adjusted if needed (and it will be) and you actually know how to set up a guitar. You saying "absolutely horrible" and then going off my experiences and those of many others on forums, I'm guessing you are trying to very low action, don't understand how to adjust a truss rod and how to set up a guitar. Their necks, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO SET UP A GUITAR, are fine out of the box with normal action. If you want Steve Vai super-duper-low action, you have to do to a luthier for a fret level. Neck CANNOT be leveled until after they are installed and tension is applied to the neck. So I call BS on your claim the fret work was "absolutely horrible".

    • @revtimewest
      @revtimewest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have many warmoth necks. All jumbo stainless steel frets.
      All of them, every one was installed out of the box and I have done nothing but polished them.
      Warmoth is top quality.

    • @BeforeTheDarkAge
      @BeforeTheDarkAge 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I've had similar issues with my two recent builds. I built 4 between 98 and 01 they turned out great. The recent ones need a full fret leveleing and the nut was cut poorly, No more warmoth builds for me,

  • @kennethmeeker6369
    @kennethmeeker6369 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have several from the early 90’s that are great , haven’t bought anything recent from warmoth , they were all pawnshop buys in Portland Oregon and Vancouver Washington back in the day .

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh I never knew that

  • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
    @user-qr7ee2cp4y ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My warmoth body and neck have been great. My favorite guitar hands down.....

  • @lostintheflurry
    @lostintheflurry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video!! you covered allot of things i've been wondering about. you can't help but wonder when you see those flamed out warmoth necks ppl have and its just sooo fancy anyway thanks again!

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah buddy. Totally get it. I was pretty nervous about them at first, not knowing if they were overhyped or not but I’ve since fallen in love with them.
      Thanks for the kind words friend!

  • @mkrj2576
    @mkrj2576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. Good advice. Good video. Going to check out your other videos.

  • @dam7ri
    @dam7ri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you want to learn chicken-picking, I recommend only two guitarists, Zakk Wylde & Roy Clark. Zakk's work with Ozzy clearly separated him from all of Ozzy's other guitarists, and Roy Clark is Roy muthaf'ing Roy Clark. If you don't know him, put down the guitar and do a youtube search. His stuff from before I was born (in 1972) was groundbreaking, and he only got better by the time my parents blessed this godforsaken planet with my existence.

  • @chasingstrings3778
    @chasingstrings3778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your intro speech Subbed Rock on, brother

  • @gregraynard781
    @gregraynard781 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They do make great bodies!

  • @grantdavid9466
    @grantdavid9466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought my hard tail Strat body from Warmoth, but everything else outside of the pickups and an obsidian blender mod is Fender. I really liked the Fender AM PRO II Strat neck so I bought one of those.

  • @daleeckholm26
    @daleeckholm26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Colt! Don't know if this helps you but using the traditional 3 barrel saddles for that traditional Tele twang and a Earvanna nut is like saying I want my intonation to be EXACTLY close enough. My frankentele has three brass barrels too... but can't get to exact. Gotta give on one string or another, might even have to take a little string ball and run your string through it to prevent the winding ends from landing on the contact point... Just a thought!?

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว

      THIS! This is something i thought of after the thought, but 100% spot on.

  • @knowwhey7559
    @knowwhey7559 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you elaborate or show some documentation that nut width needs to match a bridge?
    I've used 1 5/8 and 1 3/4 on the same guitars with no issues at all (trems and hardtails).
    The only concern I'm aware of, is the treble pickup pole piece spacing.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean we’re talking the different of
      1/8 of an inch right. So yea it’s not that huge of a deal… but it is different. The strings will feel closer together or further apart depending on which way you go… again it’s minute but still mathematically different

  • @JohnDoe-if1ty
    @JohnDoe-if1ty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a pretty good quote

  • @pjincho
    @pjincho 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aren’t Warmoth headstock dimensions actually a little different?

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m fairly certain the licensed ones are exact. Though I could be wrong

    • @pjincho
      @pjincho 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryansnydercg purchased one 7 months ago and realized the nut width was too wide for my liking (I like 42mm, it was 43) and that the heel of the headstock has a sharper incline. Held up against a fender, the holes line up, but the dimensions are different.

  • @buck7477
    @buck7477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thinking about getting a Warmoth neck for my 1984 Ibanez Roadstar 2 RS 135 but warmoth said there necks will not fit my guitar.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait really? I would have thought they’d have something

    • @zeusapollo8688
      @zeusapollo8688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fix what you have

  • @cmkilcullen8176
    @cmkilcullen8176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warmoth does have have pre built necks and they have great necks. I wrote to them and called them to ask them if I can tell them what I am looking for rather than filling out that tedious form. Never got back to me. That form is unending. Basically I want a soft V with modern truss rod access - rosewood, for a fender vintage type guitar. But now I have to know what their necks are called- blah blah blah---- how about I tell you what I need and you tell me if you can make it happen. The possibilities are limitless, but applying for it is as well. Yes - daunting. I prefer to get a human being that I can talk to. I will give you the model of the guitar I have. I will tell you what I need. If I feel as if I have to do one's job -forget it.
    Customer relations - the poorest American Product. At least return my calls or emails guys- that would be something. But I get it - you have other people - you don't need my patronage. Fine.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah customer service can be a make or break

  • @kennyh5083
    @kennyh5083 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warmoth makes necks for Fender and many big name guitar companies Homie!

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw6277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My problem with Warmoth off the rack necks is that they all have compound radius boards when what I want is a straight 9.5”. So I have to go looking at other Fender licensed options with Mighty Mite and Allparts. Personally I prefer to get mine completely unfinished so I can oil it myself.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea off the racks are usually going to have something missing for most people.

  • @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
    @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn boss. You shilled for warmoth better than aaron himself hahahaha.
    No salt though. If anyone should simp for a company it should be a company like warmoth they do good work and are super friendly!
    I got some criticism for your video though. I think you covered all the pluses but you didn't get into the deets of the negative stuff.
    NO NITRO FINISHES. Only high thick shiny gloss or thin satin, but not old school relic friendly nitro. So if you want a relicy type guitar from them, have fun painting it yourself or having others paint it lol.
    NO FRET CROWNING. Not a big deal, get a few tools and do it yourself lol. Or just don't do it at all It's fine lol. I actually like uncrowned frets more. Less slip off the fret board issues. Sure it's not as smooth feeling but it's smooth enough...
    NO WOOD OF YOUR OWN COLLECTION. You can't send em wood and have them make parts out of it. Trust me I tried lololol. They hit me with legal mumbo jumbo even though I begged haha.
    So yeah the negatives are not a big deal lol. Great video. ALWAYS ALWAYS do massive research before dropping hundreds lol.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ehhh the negatives are definitely there and should be considered. Nitro is a huge one but I guess that’s why I got the roasted maple. Fret crowning is definitely a big one too.
      I’m not sure how many people are wanting to bring their own wood, but your point is definitely well taken

    • @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
      @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ryansnydercg roasted maple is the best thing that's ever happened to nex lololol. Looks kool. No finish needs. Feels great. Lasts forever. A bit more resonant. A bit less heavy. Lol where's the downside???
      I think folks should do nitro finishes themselves. It's all about ultimately getting a reliced look and nitro is the only way to go in order to make it look right so just do it yourself is what I say : )
      Want a smooth hard shell gloss finish that looks perfect? Yeah go with a pro who has machines designed for just that. Fret crowning is easy too. Just get tape and the right metal shaving tools from stew mac.
      I'm a very hands on guy so these negs don't bug me one bit. But yeah, if you want a guitar that feels pretty much perfect right off the bat and doesn't require a lot of messing around with to get it just right... I'd just buy a gretsch or something haha. Those are always pretty sick : )
      Lol I tried to get warmoth some brazilian rosewood so that they could make a neck out of it for me. They gave me all this legal mumbo jumbo. I told them come on warmoth, I would break the law for you! Why wont you break the law for me??? So unkool!
      Lol I hope they know I was joking but still..... How effing kool would that be to have a crap ton of brazilian rosewood necks for far cheaper than many necks already out there?!?!?!?
      Sigh... I guess you can't have everything. No such thing as the perfect guitar... But you can come close and warmoth is perfect for that!

  • @seanemmettfullerton
    @seanemmettfullerton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yes yes yes! Warmoth is an awesome company with sublime quality control. My
    number one is a Warmoth strat build (Ibanez thin neck) from 2001-stainless steel frets,
    swamp ash body, Callaham vintage tremolo system, Gotoh locking tuners, Fralin pups,
    -incredible sound and feel. You cannot buy something this good off a rack... plus
    it cost a small fraction of what a custom boutique strat would be 🙃

  • @chippsterstephens6800
    @chippsterstephens6800 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tone follows the neck, many build necks, not just Warmoth.
    Some offer nitro finishes, Brazilian rosewood, things Warmoth doesn’t.
    Also some have a vintage correct truss rod, and dot markers.
    The neck is not an area to skimp on.
    Just something things to consider.
    40 years messing with this stuff.

  • @dahlbaker
    @dahlbaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    There is no substitute for research. I built a Partscaster with a Warmoth neck and body. What I learned was that the details down to the component levels can actually save you thousands of dollars. Once played, no one would trade it for anything less than a guitar from the Fender Custom Shop. Warmoth is a great company to work with, if, you know what you want.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Couldn’t agree more. And the key is knowing what you want

    • @martinportelance138
      @martinportelance138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah but they're costly.... Ideally, a Warmoth guitar should be seen like a lifetime achievement, once you get to know the instrument so much that you truely know what you want/need.
      For the moment I'll just take that Squier right there off the wall :-D

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very good point - you probably won’t know what suits you best until you’ve tried a bunch of different things

    • @travishernandez2193
      @travishernandez2193 ปีที่แล้ว

      What neck carve and radius did you go with

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Neck was modern construction, standard thin with a 9.5-14” compound radius

  • @bradleyolinger1691
    @bradleyolinger1691 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Actually in the process of building a Rock/Punk Partscaster now. Have an Alder Player Series Tele body(in Tidepool) that I’m gonna stick a Dimarzio Super Distortion T and Seymour Duncan Hot P90 in. My favorite neck is actually on my Epi Les Paul Classic Worn. It has an asymmetrical neck with a 12” radius and 43mm width. Thickness is 0.82”-0.96”. This puts me at either the SRV or Wolfgang neck profile for a Warmoth, and I will likely get a Gibson Conversion since I tend to favor that particular scale. My main issues are choosing the wood or woods, and getting gold medium jumbo frets. I use GraphTech Tusq XL nuts across all my guitars so that’s a no brainer. I do have a friend who made her own neck and did beautiful work, so if she can handle the job I might just have her do the work. Warmoth would be my second option most likely.

  • @James-hr4fu
    @James-hr4fu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Iam from Mt Vernon! High school at Mt Vernon class of 73' And Iam a strat/ tele guy!

  • @derekclacton
    @derekclacton ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:07 I’m aware Fender sells a licence to makers who pay to lawfully copy its headstock shape. Fender doesn’t approve the neck design though, to the best of my knowledge (and the licence doesn’t include having a “Fender” decal, although the neck might be purchased for a Fender guitar).
    A neck is the single most important part of a guitar imho - if the neck doesn’t feel right and play right, the guitar isn’t much good 👍

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed the neck is the most important

    • @CerealDust-nStuff
      @CerealDust-nStuff 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Definitely! For me it's all about the neck... then the pickups.

  • @RickFoxx777
    @RickFoxx777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree Warmoth necks/bodies are of a good quality. However, I believe that they are over priced!
    Stay away from their "STOCK NECKS" unless you are a shredder as they are all (save for the SRV and Boatneck which are priced from $500.00-$600.00) standard thin.
    As for me and many of my band mates we prefer soft V, medium C, oval C etc... anything but but the ever popular C or standard thin.
    Another thing I would like to mention is that around four years ago I purchased a neck from Warmoth and buy the time I added a couple regular non extreme items to the neck (shape, radius, and a nut) it totaled up to $340.00 + shipping. Sadly I purchased the neck before I noticed that Fender had an actual Fender Classic Player 50's neck (With all, save the nut, features I liked) which at the time cost only $199.00 with a nut (plastic), soft V and a 9.5 radius.
    Yikes.
    One last thing I will mention...I hate that Warmoth has an up charge of $35.00 for something so standard as a 9.5 radius! They charge for every little thing.
    IMO, you are better off going to USA custom guitars or just buying an actual Fender neck. At least if you buy from USACG all these things I have mention on my purchase through Warmoth are included for only $210 + shipping.
    However, If indeed you like the standard thin necks with 10-16 radius (and no nut) then you are in luck as they are only $187.00. Just my 2 cents worth. Peace.

  • @kristanbenson803
    @kristanbenson803 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d love to buy an EVH relic, swap out the neck with a warmouth flame maple..

  • @bischerosti
    @bischerosti 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    USA custom Guitars was the best.

  • @TheEdge92
    @TheEdge92 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ohh man they really have good prices on their vintage necks. Unfortunately shipping to germany is 141€ + 73€ import taxes. So for that money I will buy some tools and will make several necks.

  • @limpneckmike
    @limpneckmike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    From my understanding, the only reason Fender allows Warmoth to make replicas of their necks is because of a legal dispute they had decades ago, and they came to a compromise. I’m on board with everything else in this video, I just thought I’d point that out.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is super interesting i never knew that but it makes sense. Thanks dude!!

    • @kiezersosay49
      @kiezersosay49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The deal was they weren't allowed to put any warmoth branding on a fender headstock. Lol they already kept they're logo in the neck pocket anyways.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They kept the Fender logo in the pocket?

    • @kiezersosay49
      @kiezersosay49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ryansnydercg sorry, no the deal was to keep warmoth's logo in the neck pocket.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhh gotcha! As a way to identify it as a Warmoth - makes sense. Thanks!

  • @DoobTube71
    @DoobTube71 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Speaking of chicken picken,...I just ordered a Warmoth superwide 1-3/4" nut, boatneck profile, 11" straight radius, wenge shaft / ebony fingerboard, 6115 tall/thin stainless steel modern construction Telecaster reverse headstock neck within the past week. The customization options make Warmoth awesome!

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds like an awesome build friend! Have fun

  • @turdfurgison8942
    @turdfurgison8942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very informative video Colt. However, I would like to add some clarification In regards to your comment about Fender "letting" Warmoth build Fender replacement necks...
    Fender actually filed a lawsuit against Warmoth back in the late 90's/ early 2000's -ish (I don't recall the exact year) that lasted a couple years, and won. After that lawsuit, Warmoth worked out a licensing deal with Fender to use their headstock designs.(which means that Warmoth has to pay Fender for the ability to legally use said headstock designs).

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhh ok that makes sense. Thanks!

    • @martinportelance138
      @martinportelance138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, wisely, Fender took the manner in which the PC won the personal computer race at the start of the 1990s; "You want to line up alongside our products? Fine - pay us just a nominal fee here and there and let's own the market." while Apple (and Gibson) sueing everything in sight, became isolated in their corner of the said market.

  • @gscgold
    @gscgold ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought a partscaster , too many parts to list and would cost me at least 1400 usd to build it myself, the warmoth neck is amazing, I've owned some great guitars over the decades and have played a fender masterbuilt strat once by chance..this warmoth neck is on par with anything I've ever played.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah they are pretty incredible necks and congrats on the new guitar!

  • @BenBreard
    @BenBreard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah, all the warmoth necks I've bought needed the nut slots filed down. I wish they would change their default. Another big factor IMO is fret leveling. Some of their necks are unplayable out of the box and need an expensive leveling or PLEK. Once that's done, they're amazing. I've gotten lucky on two necks that had perfect frets. ....the rest........yeah, not so much. If they're bad, that adds another $200ish to the build

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dang if your neck needs leveling or PLEKing, it almost makes it not worth it. Haven’t run into that issue yet but good to know it’s out there

    • @BenBreard
      @BenBreard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ryansnydercg in fairness to warmoth they are pretty open about the possibility of needing the frets levelled. So is fender with their replacement necks actually. Just comes with the territory of "parts" vs assembled instruments. .... totally still worth it IMO. :)

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally worth the risk!

    • @maxwellblakely7952
      @maxwellblakely7952 ปีที่แล้ว

      The nut slots are almost always cut too high with manufacturer you buy a guitar from. It sucks.

  • @bluwng
    @bluwng ปีที่แล้ว +2

    $300 for a Fender Baked maple neck, Jumbo frets and 12” radius.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I bought my neck back in January of 2020 - fender hadnt started selling the baked maple necks - but they are awesome.
      Not sure what my neck would cost now, but I paid $321.42

  • @KeithMcConchie
    @KeithMcConchie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FYI - I don't know if they did at the time you made this video, but Fender does carry stock roasted maple Telecaster necks. They don't have nearly the selection that Warmoth has, though.
    BTW - I'm an Alexandria hometown boy.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did not have those necks when I bought the Warmoth neck - can’t remember if they had it available or not when I made the video or not though but they do look good!
      And Old Town represent!!

  • @geraldponce8336
    @geraldponce8336 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All I am going to say, is your going to have to build a few if you're looking for perfection. Because when it comes to options you're not really going to know what to expect untill you try it out for yourself. My best advice is to watch a lot of TH-cam videos on different products and make as an informed choice as possible. if something feels right stick with it on future builds. Like tall and narrow frets. Liked em on one neck, tried something else on another and was regretting it. Secondly, seriously if you are going to build guitars. You should be prepared to really build guitars. I.e. make your own nut, solder wires, copper foil stuff, and if you really get into it. Yes, level, crown, and polish frets. Maybe even install your own frets and do a roll job on the fret board edges. Even paint a nitrocellulose lacquer finish. Because warmoth only offers polyurethane. Or pay someone else to do it. Figure if you have gone this far why not go a little further. The money you are saving from custom shop and luthier prices should more than pay for the tools that will last a lifetime and make the next build even less expensive.

    • @geraldponce8336
      @geraldponce8336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah, a real important choice is weight and tone wood combinations. Even the wood grain orientation has some effect. But I won't get into too much detail about that. Heavy parts are going to sound deeper and lighter brighter. Tone woods are a good balancer. Sometimes a neck and body simply don't sound good together. Like a body that is light and bright mixed with a bright neck, too much brightness.. An ebony fretboard is bright that wouldn't sound good on light weight body. Sounds better on a heavyweight body. Rosewood is a good balancer on a light weight bodies. It has a mellow warner sound. Would say a one piece maple neck is in the middle. Matching a one piece maple neck on a middle of the road weight body is the cat's meow. The only way you're going to know what weight body is best for you is to try em out and learn from experience. Keep a record of body weights or buy a shipping scale and make mental notes. For the next build. Like I said above. Each build is better than the last. If you approach it in a intuitive manor.

  • @michaelbevins2405
    @michaelbevins2405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 2 warmoth necks they are great, You just have to try them for yourself ,And they fit the fender neck pockets better than fenders own??? The fit perfect ,some of my americans have a real small ,No worries tho .But warmouth fits perfect Gap.

  • @wadepetrishen4101
    @wadepetrishen4101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Warmoth makes great necks. But when re-fretting them you learn quickly that they glue the frets in with cyano-acrylate glue which just about guarantees fret-board chips to some degree no matter what you do. Of course that means fret-board repairs Of course it was Leo's intention that necks would just be replaced when their frets expired. Early Fenders had their frets "pushed in" from the sides. They were not meant to be replaced!

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Learned something new today!

    • @mikeycole4692
      @mikeycole4692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The tone is better when you glue the frets in. Chips are easy to fix.

    • @eskemeldgaardkrogh4145
      @eskemeldgaardkrogh4145 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just another good reason to go for stainless steel frets…

    • @Joe-mz6dc
      @Joe-mz6dc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's why when I buy my Warmoth necks I get stainless frets. And they do them extremely well.

    • @gregraynard781
      @gregraynard781 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure fix chips at each end of every fret. A real walk in the park!@@mikeycole4692

  • @place_desjardins
    @place_desjardins 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are a number of youtube videos on how to set up your neck, but it will require you to buy luthier parts. I was able to set up a Squier guitar whose set-up new from the store wasn't great. I didn't need to do anything to the nut which is a bigger job than I would be willing to handle. I adjusted saddle distance and height, and neck relief, and it worked out great. Still not sure if I want to get a Warmoth neck if the nut needs to be cut. I don't have nut files.

  • @MetaphysicalMusician
    @MetaphysicalMusician 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I support you homie...Good Job mane

  • @frostedhead
    @frostedhead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You told folks err-thang they already knew about. I can't stand whipper snappers!

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      People don’t know what they don’t know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @Barbarapape
    @Barbarapape ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unless you have the skills and experience in matching a neck to a body and doing a full setup
    you are expecting a lot for another neck to be perfect without a lot of work.
    When i wanted a custom made Strat, i took the luthier route, based in the UK it was not easy finding
    a good one, and i didn't want to pay for a masterbuilt Custom Shop from Fender.
    I was lucky to find an excellent luthier who took me through all the specs to build a guitar that i realy wanted.
    Thankfully it was all i could have asked for, he said that anyone with a screwdriver can build a guitar, it is
    the setup that makes all the difference.

  • @Arthagnou
    @Arthagnou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and Western!!!!Metal and Western? Ska AND Western....BooGie Woogie and Western

  • @An2oine
    @An2oine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You couldn't get guitars refretted back then. You had to go to a big city You only had theYellow Pages and word of mouth. There was no inter webs.

  • @srinip
    @srinip 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video, and nice to see a video from a fellow DMV resident (Bethesda here). Judging by your telegenic presence, I'm at least twice as old as you are (maybe more!), and I've made all the custom guitar mistakes one could possibly make, and I continue to make them now. First of all, you're exactly right about customization - don't jump into it unless you know what you're doing.
    To your point about Earvana nuts, I have them on all my guitars and love them. I'm very pleasantly surprised to find that Warmoth actually installs them for you now; used to be you had to do that yourself, which leads me to my main point. Guitar store setups are usually terrible (maybe Chuck's is an exception 😂), so you really need a good tech/luthier. Luckily, there are a couple of great ones in the area; I have been taking my guitars to one of them for 25+ years. I'm hesitant to give out names in public, but unless you REALLY know how to do your own setups, don't do them yourself. Nut slotting is a delicate job, and is best left to a pro.
    My two cents, and keep up the great work!

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks fellow DMV friend! Love Bethesda. And yes it’s so cool that Warmoth is always adding more options to their stuff.
      As far as Chuck’e go, there is no place better in the area. I go there and Action Music

  • @misterbeane
    @misterbeane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree whole-heartedly with almost everything said here, except for negative #1. I'd argue that you really shouldn't even be considering any Warmoth parts if you don't know the instrument well enough to know what you want. You're much better off either buying a prebuilt, going for a cheaper/complete option, or, at the very least, calling them and having them guide you instead of trying to figure it out yourself.

  • @WeAllFloatHere
    @WeAllFloatHere ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve now built 3 guitar kits and have another on the way (not warmoth). They were cheaper ones, mostly for practice so that i can hone my finishing skills before going full custom from either warmoth or precision kits. Trying to decide between the two but learning warmoth for the neck customization options

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you know what you are looking for, I say Warmoth so you can get exactly what you had in mind.

    • @WeAllFloatHere
      @WeAllFloatHere ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryansnydercg I’m actually gearing up to order it tomorrow ☺️ decided on warmoth, but I’m forgoing a few options to save some money. Their prices have gotten pretty wild by comparison to others now but their quality looks amazing

  • @spastickitchen
    @spastickitchen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool video. Might need a little more fact checking. 1. Nut width is independent of bridge spacing. Electric guitars, as a pretty strict rule, are narrower at the nutthan at the bridge. You can match any bridge spacing with any nut. But the radius heights DO have to match, which seems to be the problem you encountered with your build. 2. Buzz Feiten and Earvana nuts are not as simple as you said. There are tuning offsets and entire systems in use to compensate for theoretical shortcomings of standard tuning. This is a topic you could write a dissertation on, but it'd be inaccurate to say that they give you perfect intonation. Also, the nut compensation has absolutely nothing to do with the intonation adjustment at the bridge.

    • @gregraynard781
      @gregraynard781 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Spastickitchen you will see strings hanging off the edge of fretboard when the string spacing at the bridge is too wide for the neck (heel). You will see this on every vintage Fender Strat. A tropical setup for that involves tweaking the neck towards the bass side in order to align the treble string along the necks length. That results in the last frets being basically unplayable on the bass side ( who plays 6th string at the 20th fret anyway). So there are different string spacings for Fender style bridges. I've noted from 2.000" to 2.200" E to E. If you can't deal with the neck alignment correction thing then you are forced to get a narrow string spacing. Fixed bridges for Fenders are available with spacings closer to a Gibson.
      And you are right about compensated nuts: they are bullshit. The guitar is an "equally tempered" instrument. Its in tune with itself as much as it can be. Its not a piano. If you use a compensated nut then the distance from open string to the first fret is going to be too far, and the first fret will be sharp. Can't change the laws of physics.

    • @spastickitchen
      @spastickitchen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregraynard781 Correct. 1. Nut width and bridge spacing are 100% independent of each other, but the neck needs to be designed to align properly with both, so neck width is 100% dependent on both as well as on how much overhang is desired. 2. I wouldn't go so far as to say that compensated nuts are bullshit; however, due to the poor marketing and so many popular misconceptions about what they are supposed to do, I think holding that opinion is justified. For me, I don't mind them, but it's like nails on a chalkboard for me, every time I hear "they give you perfect intonation." That claim is totally misinformed and misleading.

  • @NEKingdom241
    @NEKingdom241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fender allows? It's called licencing. Same with Allparts and Migthty Mite. That's why they have Fender headstocks

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh allowing or allowing through licensing… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      Either way Gibson isn’t allowing companies to do it

    • @NEKingdom241
      @NEKingdom241 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryansnydercg You make it sound like Fender is just generous and lets companies do it. The get paid plenty of money. Also look at the Gibson headstock necks on ebay that aren't licensed, there are plenty. Warmoth's Gibsonish headstock is close enough fro me and also easily modified for someone who wants the Gibson look

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude that’s awesome. I wish I could say the headstock design doesn’t bother me… but unfortunately I cannot

  • @IshMail-cx6dv
    @IshMail-cx6dv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what color is that tele body?

  • @ragnadrabinowitz7629
    @ragnadrabinowitz7629 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do you mean action music in falls church?

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do

    • @ragnadrabinowitz7629
      @ragnadrabinowitz7629 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryansnydercg love those guys. they do all my guitar work. did they assist in your build? thanks for the very informative video.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ragnadrabinowitz7629 they did help! They did the final setup once I had everything assembled

  • @freeman436
    @freeman436 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nicely done sir

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you sir!

  • @Floodland-bn3ol
    @Floodland-bn3ol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What fret wire size did you go with? Thanks

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Friend. Yea it is an Ervana and I went with the 6150 fret wire

    • @Floodland-bn3ol
      @Floodland-bn3ol ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ryansnydercg Thank-you man.I think I will go for a Warmoth build after and sell one of my guitars.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Floodland-bn3ol Thats awesome man! What type of guitar are you planning on building?

  • @MetaphysicalMusician
    @MetaphysicalMusician 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ATOMIC!

  • @gregraynard781
    @gregraynard781 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two things: first the necks are "stabilized" so they cannot take a stain. That means you cannot match a stained body and neck. This Stabilization came out of Warmoth getting tired of people trying to make warranty claims who never put a finish on their neck - SOLVED. The other takeaway on this is that you are playing on the functional equivalent of a pressure treated neck. Like Poly, Stabilized wood sounds like shit and the tone never improves with time, the wood cannot age. They have treated necks for about 20 years. They started right before they dropped their dealership program.
    Second: they superglue the ends of frets. A) discoloration, B) chips are unavoidable, C) heating the frets results in poisonous Cyanide gas to mushroom! EXTREMELY DANGEROUS to heat the frets, which many guys do prior to re-fretting and of course heat treating a warped neck is impossible too. No small deal. Super glueing fret ends is not the same as cluing in frets. When we glue frets in we are using adhesive that are designed to release when heated.
    Yes I am an old repairman. In fact I claim to do the "world best re-frets", and teach how to do it to anyone who is willing to pay for the lesson.

  • @Thirdgen83
    @Thirdgen83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Warmoth guitar products are EXCELLENT. And I don't need someone corporation's name on my guitar.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the neck I have is second to nonr

  • @jamiemorgan4146
    @jamiemorgan4146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only time a compensated nut does anything, is when you’re playing open chords... Once you fret a note, It’s Bull Shit... Can’t deal with the tunning on a guitar... play the piano .

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It can help with the open tuning for slides

  • @robertfalconer5054
    @robertfalconer5054 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Advice, Colt.
    Getting some Advice from a Skilled Luthier is invaluable as well.
    We built a Great Custom S Type Guitar for about 60 percent of the Price of a New Suhr.
    For the Same Quality and Quality Components.
    Yes i Totally Agree, it pays to do Research.
    Very Happy with Warmoth.

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you know what you’re looking for and you’ve done some research, it’s a pretty sweet deal

    • @christopherkennedy873
      @christopherkennedy873 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @nikdrown
    @nikdrown ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to replace my strat neck. It’s better than ever with the warmoth neck and I got it a little customized

    • @ryansnydercg
      @ryansnydercg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are crazy good! What kind of neck did you get?

    • @nikdrown
      @nikdrown ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryansnydercg honestly I don’t know. Wanted it pretty much as the same on my lone star strat but had the board flat radius instead. Kind of wish I played in the custom a little more but i grew to love the original neck and had a lot of time on it. Truss rod was maxed

  • @robertfalconer5054
    @robertfalconer5054 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a Luthier Build me a Custom S Type Guitar in Australia.
    The Alder Body and Roasted Maple Neck both from Warmoth.
    Absolute Fantastic, Stainless Steel Frets,
    Perfectly Crowned by the Luthier.
    No Problems here, Outstanding Work..