Another thing that makes a difference is fret size. If you have jumbo frets your fingers will be way higher off the fretboard and it makes the neck feel thicker. If you have vintage frets it makes the neck feel thinner.
That's cool, because I have some necks I want to customize to learn some skills and that little bit of extra 'neck size' would improve these immensely.
Not true at all in my experiences. On a modern C profile neck, having jumbo Frets makes the strings easier to bend. Also it requires a lighter touch when using chords
@@Davidthestratman7 that won’t make a difference, the distance between the back of the neck and the top of the fret is identical although the scalloping will make legato and vibrato feel different.
Warmoth should provide a "try before you buy" neck exchange program. For instance, consumer allows a credit card hold with Warmoth and Warmoth ships you whatever neck profiles you want to compare (we pay shipping). This way we can "TOUCH & FEEL any differences first hand. Then we send them back for a full refund/card release. Think of it like checking out books at the library. When they are checked out they are checked out so you just have to wait your turn. Of course there would need to be some rules like no installing blah blah blah but you get the general idea. PLEASE DO THIS!!!!
@@havenless3551 like a short scale conversion with a Clapton profile? Not going to be there. I’ve been playing guitar for 50 years and I know what necks I like however, Warmouth allows you to do custom neck "mash-ups” which are not standard production for most manufactures. I’d bet out of all the “seconds” they’ve tossed over the years they could have a little “library of necks” they could circulate to the general public (and not put themselves at risk doing so). Could be a tremendous potential “added value” for sales to their company? For me, I’m going to order about three or four necks, pick the one I want and send the rest back. Sucks but with their current policy that’s what I’d have to do to know that I get the right neck. Be nice if they had loaners for a hands-on pre-purchase experience.
#1) Fatback. #2) Boatneck. I love Warmoth necks! I have small hands and have broken both of them twice over the decades (so many stories including one that involves flying off a skateboard and landing on my palms) and I also suffer from intermittent tendonitis, tennis elbow, and arthritis but had always assumed that smaller guitar necks would be more comfortable. A few years ago I randomly picked up a guitar in a shop that had a massive "baseball bat" neck and it made me want to try more fat necks because it was so comfortable. I do prefer short scale guitars so I get the Warmoth 24" Jaguar necks but the Fatback and Boatneck profiles provide support for my hand that keeps my hands from straining whereas thinner profile necks make my hands cramp quickly.
@@hydeane weird, me too, I don't have the boatneck but I've tried them and liked it. Why do you like the roundback while having smallhands ? I think it might be the base of the thumb gives more support for the fingers to do their work. I find that triads and chord picking are easier at the 1st 2nd and third frets etc (if that makes sense)
One thing to note about asymmetrical neck profiles is that it depends where you hold the guitar (low or high on the body) You can see this by holding your hand high up (you hold the guitar high). in this case you will hold the neck more to the treble side (the curvature of your palm between index and thumb). If you play with the guitar hanging low, the curvature of your palm is more to the bass side. So if you play holding the guitar higher, you might wanna order a lefty asymmetrical neck (for a righthanded player) and play it upside down. Or just hold a guitar standing up without a strap and move it from hanging low to high or vice versa. you will feel how it moves from one end to the other.
In theory you could easily sand down a neck to slim the nut width to your liking. Then apply an oil & wax finish to the bare, exposed and super-smooth wood (it's just a lot of hand work.)
We Bass player’s just get kicked to the back of the bus. :) what about your Bass neck Profiles? Would love a quick video on them. I’ve ordered the standard P and J style necks and will do a few more projects this year and that info to go along with what’s on the website would really be useful to cat’s like me. Keep up the good work brother and I for one love your products. Bass Products that is!!! 🤩
Changing the nut width made all the difference for me, had a larger nut(modern medium) on my first Wolfgang profile and thought the whole neck was too big. Second same wolfgang profile but smaller nut(1.650 vintage medium) and it is amazing! 🤘🏻
Since I buy unfinished necks, I buy bigger than I need and sand it and shape it down to suit my hands and style. Usually a boat neck is a perfect start and a take it down just a hair before finishing it. Better too big than too thin if you're a builder. :)
I *know* that I need a *wider* neck, with more sting- spacing, to compensate for the development of fingertip-clubbing that has come on, but I still *want* a back-profile to comfortably fill my hand. I haven't bought my dream neck yet, so, advice from Aaron, or anyone, might be of some help. I also want my dream neck to be a 24-fret affair, with full scalloping. If you find this comment, I wish upon you good luck!
Bought the srv with a 44mm nut width, satin finish…. And I love it! Roasted flame maple probably would look better with gloss finish but the feel is superb!
You don't find the srings are too far apart with a 44mm?
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That's a great one Aaron, thank you! Considering the nut width is absolutely key to getting a neck you'll love! You should totally place a prominent cross link to the nut width info into the back profile section of the online builder... 👍🏻 When I ordered my very first Warmoth decades ago, I went with the Wolfgang profile because I madly loved the Music Man EVH necks at the time (still do). I did not think about the nut width and went with the then standard 1-11/16" (43mm). When I finally got the parts, I was surprised at how large and chunky the neck felt, it made me really sad because it was such a perfectly made and beautiful piece of wood but I just couldn't get my hands to love it... This year I finally ordered another Wolfgang profile neck but this time even went for the 1-5/8" (41mm) narrow nut width and it is just perfect for me! The narrow nut let's you do all that Hendrixian chordal extension gimmickery, and the Wolfgang back profile still makes it feel substantial and "fast", so you could really dig in the whole fretboard over... The best for me. I do love me some Soft V back profile btw, the Eric Johnson variant feels superb too.
My two favorite profiles: Wolfgang with a 1-5/8" nut and Standard Thin with a 1.650" nut. Both are good if you have small-ish hands like I do. I've also tried Standard Thin with 1-5/8" nut and that felt too compressed. FWIW most Fenders these days are rolling out with 1.650" nuts (42mm). If you're not sure what width to go for, I suggest starting there.
While I was just playing on my one piece standard thin Indian Rosewood, the rarest and oddly most comfortable one I have had in my hands was a reverse Wolfgang, once meant to be a lefty. A true gem.
Yeah, it was good to see the necks up close, it was good that the necks were compared to guitars we might have tried. Though at the end of the day we won’t know till we try them. I still would love to see that video on the comparison of copper shielding versus no shielding.
I really really like a boat neck. My former teacher like 30 years ago used a Warmoth/Tom Anderson build to teach with, and when I tried it, I loved it. And I was playing original paper thin wizard necks.
I love the standard thin as well. I’ve had it in 1 11/16”, 1 5/8” and 1 3/4” on a 12 string neck. I like it in the 1 11/16” the best. I’ve got a Tele neck with 1 5’8” boatneck, that was too narrow and too fat as is, I had to reshape the back profile to make it work. It’s still big now, but much better for me, and it ended up being asymmetrical. Love it.
Thanks for this straightforward and informative breakdown on neck shapes. Now I have a starting point for determining which is more comfortable and ultimately playable when I try out different guitars at the store. Great job!
Last week and prior to watching this video I ordered the wolfgang profile on a fender mustang neck. I'm sure it will be fantastic and a beauty. I also ordered a ready made tele neck with the boatneck profile I plan on reshaping to be asymmetrical.
I’ve only built / ordered 2 Warmoth Strats so far and on both I went with the standard thin, and I love it but I’m tempted to go for an asymmetrical Wolfgang now that you explained it. Thing is, my next Warmoth project is gonna be a short scale 32” jazz bass with a roasted maple neck and a single humbucker rout. Thanks Aaron, glad to see you’re rockin’ the mustache!
I've been obsessed with the neck topic for like 7 years now and I still haven't figure out what I really like the most. I think you could've mentioned the fretboard radius. I'm almost convinced that really is what truly affects the playability the most.
I'm not. LOL! I have played tons of different radii. I don't think it makes as much of a difference as people think. The feel is different, but not as much as neck profile. For example, vintage U profiles straight up just slow me down. I can't play fast with them. They're good for rhythm stuff, as my thumb is in a more natural position for basic barre shapes, but otherwise I prefer thinner necks. I played the John Mayer Silver Sky when it was still a 7.25 radius, and I found it immensely playable for solos. I was sitting in guitar center for about half an hour with it, and managed to play at full speed after about 10 minutes getting used to it. I was doing Eric Johnson tones with it, in fact. The only time you'll notice a difference is when you switch from drastically different radii. If you go from 20" to 7.25" or vice versa, you'll notice, and it may mess with your playing for a little bit. Gibson straight 12" to vintage fender 7.25", though? I don't think it's big enough to actually mess with me. What makes a BIG difference, in my opinion? NUT WIDTH! Holy shit, nut width changes things SO MUCH! The difference between 43mm and 42 is insane.
I like HUGE necks, thin & narrow necks make the base joint of my thumb hurt. I've got a couple of Teles with my favorite Warmoth neck profile: 1-3/4" nut, Boatneck shape (but I take the "spine" of with sandpaper on the first five frets or so...) Couple that with roasted maple, finished with a single coat of TruOil, and with stainless steel 6105 frets - and you have my PERFECT neck...
Definitely think the Wizard would be my preference as my favorite guitar is the typical Ibanez RG. I've owed at least 10 over the years. Awesome video Aaron. Thanks for that.
I own 4 Warmoth necks and all are Wolfgang profile, a couple with 1.650" nut, a couple with 1 1/16 nut. It's a nice profile but tbh i really think you guys need a symmetrical profile in between the standard thin and the 59, something like an Ibanez AZ neck, a little substantial but still modern. Your standard thin profile is VERY thin, is thinner than a standard modern fender profile, and the 59 on the other hand is a vintage profile. The Wolfgang is a nice in between but I'm not completely sold on the asymmetrical thing.
I second your comment. In the 1990s, I purchased a warmoth neck that had a medium C symmetrical profile, that was between the standard thin and 59 round back. it was perfection. Unfortunately, they no longer carry this profile. Yes, they do need to add a symmetrical profile to fill this spot rather than just the Wolfgang.
I love the Fatback Contour. I have two Warmoth necks that are Fatback. I have a Superwide and a 1 3/4" aka R5. The compound radius is great. The R5 with a standard thin is my other neck. I like it, but it isn't the same. The wide neck feels great for my hand and it helps with my fretting and legato.
I have the Fatback Arcade neck with a 1 3/4 inch nut and 6100 frets. It's enormous but I find the neck way more comfortable and easier to play on than the Ibanez 540S I have.
@@stevp372 thanks mate. I'm about the same. I am finding standard Fender necks too thin and have managed to find some thinkness specs to compare. Appreciate you reply. A lot to consider when ordering from OS
I too am a big fan of the Wolfgang neck. I'm very used to PRS necks as they're great for playing chords, although their wide thin is a tad too thin for me, so the Wolfgang kinda hits the sweet spot for me. I kinda tried to emulate a PRS neck with the other specs such as scale length and nut width, but I used the 10-16 radius so i can adjust the action lower.
I bought the True Temperament frets and found them super interesting. People asked me a lot if they felt different to play and they didn't. If you have some on hand, that could be a great inclusion in a video some time.
Here's something to maybe consider (GREAT video, btw) I was in a big box store a while back, and as a guy looking for a guitar as a 2nd instrument, which is to say absolutely NO lead work, simply playing chords to write songs....the rep put a Jimmy Vaughn MIM strat in my hands that had a "V" shape (whether that was a "soft V", or regular "V", I have absolutely NO idea). The guitar was handed to me in passing....so I didn't actually play it. *That said....simply holding the guitar in a playing position (so-to speak), it fit my pre-pubescent-girl-sized, hands, like an absolute glove. It was incredibly comfortable. Now, to ask an incredibly stupid question...does the neck just sitting there in my hand comfortably, translate into actually "playing" well???? Maybe that's impossible to answer, without playing it for myself. But, a soft V shape in that context felt great....it fit the contour of my hand perfectly. Maybe once I get to playing chords, that will all change, as the shape of my hand changes depending on the chords being played...but, I thought that was an interesting point to bring up, given that in the context of Warmoth guitars, you don't get to play these necks before buying them....* Just a little something to think about, given you can spend $700-$800 for a custom neck. I'd love some feedback from the players "in the know"...
I played a strat with the soft-V and it was the most comfortable shape I ever felt…it worked great for chords as well as lead playing…you can’t go wrong with a soft-V…thats been my experience….good luck!!!!
@@eddiejr540 FINALLY! Some real-world feedback. Thanks, Eddie....I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on a neck to put on my strat. There must be something to it, given how many high-end strats/tele's have them. There's a JV tele that has a soft-V I'm thinking about getting as well. Thanks for your vote of confidence on this 👍
Personal neck profile is where the rubber meets the road. Asked Warmoth for a Gibson scale Strat neck with wide spaced strings. On my doorstep within 2 weeks. 100% satisfied.
I like the sound of the asymmetric necks, it makes sense, I have small hands but long fingers, and when I am fretting chords the neck shape really becomes important. It has always amazed me how some people with really fat chunky fingers ever manage to fret anything cleanly, but the do, and some of the greats have fat chunky fingers.😀
The interesting thing about the Wizard is that it’s actually significantly fatter than the neck it’s named after. I think the closest analog to an Ibanez neck would be the original Jem profile, which is 0.75” at the first fret. I’d say the most important point though is what you made: if you like the feeling of a flattened neck back, you’ll like that neck. It’s kind of like a Standard Thin that had the center sanded down flat.
Totally agree. Small-medium fingers here. I have two Wizard Warmoth necks with jumbo frets, 1 5/8” and 1 11/16” respectively on super strat builds. The former is a bit small but I adjust eventually. The latter definitely feels better. Though it is not as thin as an original late 80s “Wizard 1” Ibanez Saber 540S neck (which for some reason IS my favorite) Warmoth gets close especially if you go with the wider nut widths. Their’s is probably more akin to Wizard 2 profile which Ibanez tooled a little thicker. Warmoth does a fantastic job.
Yes, the Wizard is thin, but it’s not thin like an Ibanez. My RG550 is 0.67 at the first. I’ve found the Wizard to be amazingly comfortable and the perfect balance between thin and playable.
My only Warmoth neck is the Wolfgang. Like you said, money. Of all three I have bought, it is my fave by far. Coupled with the compound radius and jumbo frets, it is the best of everything. Like the website says, it almost gives it a scalloped feel. The cowboy chords are easy to lay down low and the higher you get the flatter it gets. Brilliant. If you've never tried one, do it.
Before I start, really cool t-shirt. Definitely have to get one of those. I dislike the Fender C-shaped necks they're not big enough. So I bought a Fender Clapton looking for the V shape and although I like the V shape I hated the Clapton neck because it is too small. I don't have big hands but I like the feeling of a baseball bat in my hand. That's when I went searching and found Warmoth. I've ordered a bunch of boat neck profile necks and I love them. They fit right in the crook of my hand and they are extremely comfortable. I actually wanted something a little fatter but Warmoth won't make anything past 1 inch deep so I ordered a fatback thinking it would feel even bigger in my hand but to my surprise without the V it actually feels smaller. So luckily I sanded down the shoulders on both sides so it would be a boat neck shape and it feels great again even bigger than the Fatback itself. I'm your number one boat neck fan. Most of the necks I have now our 1 11/16 because they are Strat necks with the Gibson 24 3/4 conversion. I do own one Strat neck that is 1 3/4 at the bridge and I admit it does feel a little large but not too big. Now that I have these custom necks with stainless steel frets I really can't even look at a guitar in a guitar store anymore because I know they'll never feel as good.
Boatnecks are the best of all worlds, and can customize the nut width. My early Bill Nash has one & the raw maple has been carefully smoothed and then an oil and wax finish applied, it's so comfortable and effortless. Interesting note on the Fatback! I'm thinking of trying some Strat neck profiles and I absolutely dislike wimpy neck profiles that flex too much and IMO probably sound thin by comparison.
Just making order for the neck with wolfgang profile 😊, ss6150 frets / 22/ , roasted maple saft wood and roasted maple fretboard , 42 nut w , Nightswan , gold pearl inlay.
My first Warmoth neck was a Wizard profile with a 1-5/8” nut thinking I would love it due to having small hands. Oh, was I wrong! Fast forward 10 years and a few builds later I found that Standard thin with a 1-11/16” nut feels like home to me. I may venture into a Wolfgang profile for my next build. We’ll see
I have a Warmoth Telecaster build with all of your parts except for the PRS humbuckers in it. The neck profile seems fairly slim, but at the edges of the fret board it feels like they're sort of squared off. This guitar was given to me in parts and I had it built.
I have ordered several Warmoth necks over the years. I order the Fatback with 1-3/4'' nut and tallest SS frets. Then I shape the back profile to a pronounced V; all of them Strat or Tele.
I'm glad he qualified the modern C as "closest to the Fender version" because I've found Fender's modern C profiles to be all over the place, from .78" to .83" at the 1st fret, depending on the year and the model and country of origin.
Lolz those are the specs of like... Lemme count........ 5 of my strats lol. I got a music man cutlass starry night limited edition matching headstock that has a str8 10 lolz. Aaron would maybe not like it though. It's a v to c shape neck lolz.
Glow-in-the-dark picks? Fender used to have them around 20-25 years ago, I still have a half gross 'cuz I got thin.s.. Take your glow pick and favorite person into the dark room for a serenade, then start munchin' on a handful of wintergreen Live Safers candies for the sparky light show! I got a Wizard profile from Warmoth over a year ago, because I didn't have so long of fingers for the usual C or D necks. I used to play more of blooz and thumb on top of the neck, but the bonus was that it made it way more comfortable for me to keep my thumb on the back, and even lower back of the neck, and it got me on to playing more articulate, and put my pinky in the game. After more than a year of use, I've fallen out of the blooz, and into a faster rock. I've played for a few decades, and this change was completely unexpected.
I have small hands and short fingers so the Ibanez Wizard and the Standard Thin are my favorites. I like to switch back and forth between my Warmoth guitars.
I have one of your 1-11/16 59 profile S neck. I taped butt and headstock of the guitar. Then started filing then sanding (with the strings still in)until it felt right. If you don't figure string action into to shaping equation you might make it too thin. Ended up wit asymmetrical contour in the original 59 shape. It's bigger than my Wolfgang contour.
I want to order a neck but I can not decide between a 59 Roundback and the SRV (1.650 nut width, 6105 frets, straight 9 radius). I kind of like medium necks. Tough decision without holding it in my hands...
I got a free American Standard lefty Strat that I flipped, ala Jimi, and bought the boat neck just to see what a fat-ass ol' neck would feel on it. Friggin' LOVE that neck. Also, the neck has a 12-16 radius, just to be random, but that worked out as well. Put a '59 with a 7.25 radius on my Tele and that rocks too. BOTH roasted maple w/stainless steel frets.
I used to use love the wolfgang profile the most. But I sprained my hand recently and my grip changed a bit. So I got a neck with wizard profile, 5/8 nut, and straight 16 radius. It's narrow as hell, but it's damn comfortable. I can still play with my thumb over, and it's very smooth. Gonna get the same with a 12-16 radius for another guitar.
Great video Aaron - thank you for the run-down. Knowing that you prefer Floyds, I wonder whether there’s a locking nut option on the way for the 1.650” necks?
I think you can get a 1.650 nut width routed for an R2 nut if you call in, but not 100% sure. The execs have been leery to make it a permanent offering since the width of the Floyd nut and the neck at the nut don't match exactly. However, I know from experience it works great, as I have an ESP Eii-ST2 with that exact combo. I'll bring it up at our next meeting.
I started with a 1 11/16 standard thin and found it a little too thin for me. But over time I got very accustomed to it, as I liked everything else about that neck/guitar. Then on my next build I tried a 1 11/16 59' roundback. At first I found it too chunky, but after a month or so of playing it frequently it became super comfortable to me! Now I don't want to play anything else!
My first warmoth guitar had a standard neck, and I missed the feeling of a fender Billy Corgan signature strat I had before that one. For my next warmoth guitar I went with 59 roundback and that one felt exactly how I wanted. I would love that warmoth made poly satin finish instead of nitro. Again, my first warmoth guitar had the nitro and I didn't like the feeling, but for the second I asked a luthier to apply a poly finish like Corgan's strat, and that was what I was looking for
I have come to love the Wolfgang neck profile for Guitars that i want to feel fast and SRV for guitars that i want to feel big. So most guitars these days have (or will get in the future) the Wolfgang. Its more massive than the Standard thin and gives the guitar a fatter sound in my opinion. Its just amazing! Oh, and width is always 1 11/16.
One video I'd love to see is a basic out of the box neck setup. Aaron does a lot of videos demonstrating various necks, and Warmoth builds and demos many, many more. So I would think there is a "basic" out of the box install setup the Warmoth team has? I have quite a few Warmoth necks, and will admit that I always struggle to get the first setup right, especially on Modern Construction necks...and then I spend weeks chasing the neck before I get it where I want it. On a Modern Construction neck should one install it as is from the box and then do adjustments with the side mechanism? Or should one add in a quarter (or more turn) on the rear adjust and then do the first install? I've tried both approaches and still ended up with a chase. Sure would be nice to know how to do it from the pros themselves. There are always personal variables, but knowing an average action, 9 gauge setup would be a handy reference.
For me it's always a bit of a chase as things settle in. Probably takes six months of tweaking before all those pieces of wood realize they are now a guitar. With any neck I start by adjusting the truss rod until the neck is dead straight (usually not more than a complete turn of the adjustment nut), then attach it, string up, and see where I am at with the string tension added, and adjust from there.
I would love to be able to walk into a place and try my hands on all different neck profiles to figure out really what I prefer. My hands do adjust to pretty much any profile after a few minutes, but I know some definitely feel better than others. I have small hands as well, but I don't really mind a thicker neck as long as it doesn't have thick shoulders like a D. I think what my hand likes most is some kind of soft V. I have a 70s Kay that has one of the most comfortable necks I've ever held, and it seems to be maybe an asymmetrical neck, but the opposite of yours - the shoulder is shaved off kind of like a V on the thumb side, and is rounded on the finger side. Something about that shape seems to match the shape of my hand when I let it curl naturally. (I suspect that your asymmetrical is more suited to those holding lower slung guitars with the neck in the curl of their palm, while my Kay is more suited to people who hold it higher, with their elbow lower than or even with the level of the neck, and the neck against the heel of the thumb)
Yeah totally, along with the actual shape, nut width is a big influence on how the neck feels in the hand, also the fret size and scale length matter: I have a roundback neck with 6100 frets, feels huge compared to 6105. And yes, the normal thin is the go to if you're not sure.
59 with a 1-11/16" is the one for me. I have 2 of them and another on order. The playability and tone is great. I am a Les Paul player and find this one is very similar to the 50's neck.
I'm trying to replicate my SG Special 2004 neck for a Strat build. Hope you don't mind me asking - is that a similar feel? Standard Thin and 59 Roundback seems slightly too far either side and I'm too nervous to pick!
@@Oharris995 Depends on the neck profile that you have on your SG (they can vary widely depending on 60's profile, 50's profile, etc). I would say get a set of calipers or another device to measure the neck thickness and compare with the Warmoth one that is closest. If it is a 50's style neck, the 59 profile will be the one you want with a 1 11/16" neck. This one feels closest to my 2011 SG and 2012 traditional LP.
@@Oharris995 I have an 83 92 Musikraft one and it feels very similar to the 59 from frets 1-7 but the 92 is def thinner in the upper frets. Both are great necks but the Warmoth feels more like a Gibson neck. Nut width is super important for feel as well...probably moreso than thickness for me.
3 of my 4 Warmoth builds have the Standard Thin back profile. The neck I chose for the Body of Mystery body I won is a roasted maple boatneck Warhead with a no-inlay rosewood fingerboard. The Body of Mystery VIP is a special guitar for me so I chose the boatneck to give it a try. I like it but I am glad I have Standard Thin on my other guitars that I use more often. My next build will have the Wolfgang profile \m/
Hi there! Great video!!! Really helpful! Question: I am going to purchase a Warmoth neck soon. I currently have a Charvel neck, at • FRET SIZE: Jumbo • NUT MATERIAL: Floyd Rose 1000 Series Locking • NUT WIDTH: 1.6875" (42.86 mm) And in the past I had a one of those Ibanez RG series that had a very thin neck. I believe you call it a wizard neck. And in the video you mention the Wolfgang neck profile. I was intrigued by that but wanted to know between what I have, the wizard neck and the wolfgang what do you think would be a very suitable profile for a new neck? While I really enjoy playing rock, hard rock, etc. I’d like to also branch out to more versatile genres. Thank you so much for making this video again it was very helpful and I think has a great utility for people who are shopping Warmoth necks.
Another thing that makes a difference is fret size. If you have jumbo frets your fingers will be way higher off the fretboard and it makes the neck feel thicker. If you have vintage frets it makes the neck feel thinner.
That's cool, because I have some necks I want to customize to learn some skills and that little bit of extra 'neck size' would improve these immensely.
Unless you scallop them lol
Not true at all in my experiences. On a modern C profile neck, having jumbo Frets makes the strings easier to bend. Also it requires a lighter touch when using chords
I agree I have 2 necks that are almost identical. The jumbo frets make a big difference in very good way.😎
@@Davidthestratman7 that won’t make a difference, the distance between the back of the neck and the top of the fret is identical although the scalloping will make legato and vibrato feel different.
Maybe you can offer handsized pieces of the nech shapes/sizes for a smaller price to test the shape and feeling before ordering.
Warmoth should provide a "try before you buy" neck exchange program. For instance, consumer allows a credit card hold with Warmoth and Warmoth ships you whatever neck profiles you want to compare (we pay shipping). This way we can "TOUCH & FEEL any differences first hand. Then we send them back for a full refund/card release. Think of it like checking out books at the library. When they are checked out they are checked out so you just have to wait your turn. Of course there would need to be some rules like no installing blah blah blah but you get the general idea.
PLEASE DO THIS!!!!
Brilliant idea mate, they should definitely do this. I would definitely be spending more money with them 🎸😎
brilliant idea- i would be first in line for this!
Or, just head to your local guitar store and try out guitars with different necks so you can figure out which ones you like?
@@havenless3551 like a short scale conversion with a Clapton profile? Not going to be there. I’ve been playing guitar for 50 years and I know what necks I like however, Warmouth allows you to do custom neck "mash-ups” which are not standard production for most manufactures. I’d bet out of all the “seconds” they’ve tossed over the years they could have a little “library of necks” they could circulate to the general public (and not put themselves at risk doing so). Could be a tremendous potential “added value” for sales to their company?
For me, I’m going to order about three or four necks, pick the one I want and send the rest back. Sucks but with their current policy that’s what I’d have to do to know that I get the right neck. Be nice if they had loaners for a hands-on pre-purchase experience.
@@havenless3551 - ideally, yes. assuming we have guitar shops with good inventory accessible to us.
#1) Fatback. #2) Boatneck. I love Warmoth necks! I have small hands and have broken both of them twice over the decades (so many stories including one that involves flying off a skateboard and landing on my palms) and I also suffer from intermittent tendonitis, tennis elbow, and arthritis but had always assumed that smaller guitar necks would be more comfortable. A few years ago I randomly picked up a guitar in a shop that had a massive "baseball bat" neck and it made me want to try more fat necks because it was so comfortable. I do prefer short scale guitars so I get the Warmoth 24" Jaguar necks but the Fatback and Boatneck profiles provide support for my hand that keeps my hands from straining whereas thinner profile necks make my hands cramp quickly.
I like their 59 round-back necks and I have small hands and fingers🙂
@@hydeane weird, me too, I don't have the boatneck but I've tried them and liked it.
Why do you like the roundback while having smallhands ? I think it might be the base of the thumb gives more support for the fingers to do their work.
I find that triads and chord picking are easier at the 1st 2nd and third frets etc (if that makes sense)
One thing to note about asymmetrical neck profiles is that it depends where you hold the guitar (low or high on the body)
You can see this by holding your hand high up (you hold the guitar high). in this case you will hold the neck more to the treble side (the curvature of your palm between index and thumb).
If you play with the guitar hanging low, the curvature of your palm is more to the bass side.
So if you play holding the guitar higher, you might wanna order a lefty asymmetrical neck (for a righthanded player) and play it upside down.
Or just hold a guitar standing up without a strap and move it from hanging low to high or vice versa. you will feel how it moves from one end to the other.
Super helpful comment about nut width and how it affects felt profile; I hadn't thought of that but it makes total sense. Thanks!
That explains why my ltd m black metal feels like it's neck is huge, while my ltd ec1000t feels great. It has a 42mm nut, and Gibson scale length.
In theory you could easily sand down a neck to slim the nut width to your liking. Then apply an oil & wax finish to the bare, exposed and super-smooth wood (it's just a lot of hand work.)
We Bass player’s just get kicked to the back of the bus. :) what about your Bass neck Profiles? Would love a quick video on them. I’ve ordered the standard P and J style necks and will do a few more projects this year and that info to go along with what’s on the website would really be useful to cat’s like me. Keep up the good work brother and I for one love your products. Bass Products that is!!! 🤩
We all know bassists are too high to understand what he’s saying
*players. No apostrophe to pluralize a word.
Your not even on the bus 😁
What's a bass?
Bass players are weird kinda like Cyclists. Something is just a little bit off.
Changing the nut width made all the difference for me, had a larger nut(modern medium) on my first Wolfgang profile and thought the whole neck was too big. Second same wolfgang profile but smaller nut(1.650 vintage medium) and it is amazing! 🤘🏻
3:36 "these go to 11" moment.
Great video Aaron, I never really thought about the difference the nut width would make on the neck profile.
Since I buy unfinished necks, I buy bigger than I need and sand it and shape it down to suit my hands and style. Usually a boat neck is a perfect start and a take it down just a hair before finishing it. Better too big than too thin if you're a builder. :)
That SRV neck has gorgeous figuring!! That is beautiful, thanks for the tight shot on that neck back..
I *know* that I need a *wider* neck, with more sting- spacing, to compensate for the development of fingertip-clubbing that has come on, but I still *want* a back-profile to comfortably fill my hand. I haven't bought my dream neck yet, so, advice from Aaron, or anyone, might be of some help.
I also want my dream neck to be a 24-fret affair, with full scalloping.
If you find this comment, I wish upon you good luck!
Bought the srv with a 44mm nut width, satin finish…. And I love it! Roasted flame maple probably would look better with gloss finish but the feel is superb!
You don't find the srings are too far apart with a 44mm?
That's a great one Aaron, thank you!
Considering the nut width is absolutely key to getting a neck you'll love!
You should totally place a prominent cross link to the nut width info into the back profile section of the online builder... 👍🏻
When I ordered my very first Warmoth decades ago, I went with the Wolfgang profile because I madly loved the Music Man EVH necks at the time (still do).
I did not think about the nut width and went with the then standard 1-11/16" (43mm). When I finally got the parts, I was surprised at how large and chunky the neck felt, it made me really sad because it was such a perfectly made and beautiful piece of wood but I just couldn't get my hands to love it...
This year I finally ordered another Wolfgang profile neck but this time even went for the 1-5/8" (41mm) narrow nut width and it is just perfect for me!
The narrow nut let's you do all that Hendrixian chordal extension gimmickery, and the Wolfgang back profile still makes it feel substantial and "fast", so you could really dig in the whole fretboard over... The best for me.
I do love me some Soft V back profile btw, the Eric Johnson variant feels superb too.
My two favorite profiles: Wolfgang with a 1-5/8" nut and Standard Thin with a 1.650" nut. Both are good if you have small-ish hands like I do. I've also tried Standard Thin with 1-5/8" nut and that felt too compressed. FWIW most Fenders these days are rolling out with 1.650" nuts (42mm). If you're not sure what width to go for, I suggest starting there.
While I was just playing on my one piece standard thin Indian Rosewood, the rarest and oddly most comfortable one I have had in my hands was a reverse Wolfgang, once meant to be a lefty. A true gem.
My Warmoth Boatneck on my custom Telecaster is absolutely great. So glad I bought it a few years back.
Yeah, it was good to see the necks up close, it was good that the necks were compared to guitars we might have tried. Though at the end of the day we won’t know till we try them.
I still would love to see that video on the comparison of copper shielding versus no shielding.
I really really like a boat neck. My former teacher like 30 years ago used a Warmoth/Tom Anderson build to teach with, and when I tried it, I loved it. And I was playing original paper thin wizard necks.
I love the standard thin as well. I’ve had it in 1 11/16”, 1 5/8” and 1 3/4” on a 12 string neck. I like it in the 1 11/16” the best. I’ve got a Tele neck with 1 5’8” boatneck, that was too narrow and too fat as is, I had to reshape the back profile to make it work. It’s still big now, but much better for me, and it ended up being asymmetrical. Love it.
Thanks for this straightforward and informative breakdown on neck shapes. Now I have a starting point for determining which is more comfortable and ultimately playable when I try out different guitars at the store. Great job!
I got the 59 Roundback for my Wenge neck. Absolutely love it!
Last week and prior to watching this video I ordered the wolfgang profile on a fender mustang neck. I'm sure it will be fantastic and a beauty. I also ordered a ready made tele neck with the boatneck profile I plan on reshaping to be asymmetrical.
I’ve only built / ordered 2 Warmoth Strats so far and on both I went with the standard thin, and I love it but I’m tempted to go for an asymmetrical Wolfgang now that you explained it. Thing is, my next Warmoth project is gonna be a short scale 32” jazz bass with a roasted maple neck and a single humbucker rout.
Thanks Aaron, glad to see you’re rockin’ the mustache!
I've been obsessed with the neck topic for like 7 years now and I still haven't figure out what I really like the most. I think you could've mentioned the fretboard radius. I'm almost convinced that really is what truly affects the playability the most.
I'm not. LOL! I have played tons of different radii. I don't think it makes as much of a difference as people think. The feel is different, but not as much as neck profile. For example, vintage U profiles straight up just slow me down. I can't play fast with them. They're good for rhythm stuff, as my thumb is in a more natural position for basic barre shapes, but otherwise I prefer thinner necks. I played the John Mayer Silver Sky when it was still a 7.25 radius, and I found it immensely playable for solos. I was sitting in guitar center for about half an hour with it, and managed to play at full speed after about 10 minutes getting used to it. I was doing Eric Johnson tones with it, in fact.
The only time you'll notice a difference is when you switch from drastically different radii. If you go from 20" to 7.25" or vice versa, you'll notice, and it may mess with your playing for a little bit. Gibson straight 12" to vintage fender 7.25", though? I don't think it's big enough to actually mess with me.
What makes a BIG difference, in my opinion? NUT WIDTH! Holy shit, nut width changes things SO MUCH! The difference between 43mm and 42 is insane.
I like HUGE necks, thin & narrow necks make the base joint of my thumb hurt.
I've got a couple of Teles with my favorite Warmoth neck profile: 1-3/4" nut, Boatneck shape (but I take the "spine" of with sandpaper on the first five frets or so...)
Couple that with roasted maple, finished with a single coat of TruOil, and with stainless steel 6105 frets - and you have my PERFECT neck...
This is awesome, website is a little confusing when I’ve never thought this in depth about guitar necks but this laid everything out perfectly!
59 all day. I love the feel of a Les Paul neck and its my favorite for rhythm playing. The standard thin is awesome all rounder.
Definitely think the Wizard would be my preference as my favorite guitar is the typical Ibanez RG. I've owed at least 10 over the years. Awesome video Aaron. Thanks for that.
I own 4 Warmoth necks and all are Wolfgang profile, a couple with 1.650" nut, a couple with 1 1/16 nut. It's a nice profile but tbh i really think you guys need a symmetrical profile in between the standard thin and the 59, something like an Ibanez AZ neck, a little substantial but still modern. Your standard thin profile is VERY thin, is thinner than a standard modern fender profile, and the 59 on the other hand is a vintage profile. The Wolfgang is a nice in between but I'm not completely sold on the asymmetrical thing.
I second your comment. In the 1990s, I purchased a warmoth neck that had a medium C symmetrical profile, that was between the standard thin and 59 round back. it was perfection. Unfortunately, they no longer carry this profile. Yes, they do need to add a symmetrical profile to fill this spot rather than just the Wolfgang.
I love the Fatback Contour. I have two Warmoth necks that are Fatback. I have a Superwide and a 1 3/4" aka R5. The compound radius is great. The R5 with a standard thin is my other neck. I like it, but it isn't the same.
The wide neck feels great for my hand and it helps with my fretting and legato.
Holy guacamole.....a Superwide with a Fatback profile? That's got to be as big around as my head! :)
I have the Fatback Arcade neck with a 1 3/4 inch nut and 6100 frets. It's enormous but I find the neck way more comfortable and easier to play on than the Ibanez 540S I have.
@page 1 how tall are you mate? Asking as a way to judge your description of the size as I am considering this profile with either 43 or 44mm nut
@@travmunro6976 I’m 6 ft 2 with average sized hands. Unfortunately I don’t have freakish big hands like Paul Gilbert
@@stevp372 thanks mate. I'm about the same. I am finding standard Fender necks too thin and have managed to find some thinkness specs to compare. Appreciate you reply. A lot to consider when ordering from OS
Huge fan of Fatbacks here, have 4, with 1-3/4" nut and jumbo SS frets. Love them.
Holy wow.....that is a huge neck! :)
The SRV neck is absolutely a dream!
I too am a big fan of the Wolfgang neck. I'm very used to PRS necks as they're great for playing chords, although their wide thin is a tad too thin for me, so the Wolfgang kinda hits the sweet spot for me. I kinda tried to emulate a PRS neck with the other specs such as scale length and nut width, but I used the 10-16 radius so i can adjust the action lower.
The only one I've tried is the 59 roundback and It's one of my favorite guitars to play. I'll be getting another one for a future build for sure
My favorite is the Wolfgang profile!
I bought the True Temperament frets and found them super interesting. People asked me a lot if they felt different to play and they didn't. If you have some on hand, that could be a great inclusion in a video some time.
Really wish y'all offered vintage radius Fender bass necks.
Here's something to maybe consider (GREAT video, btw) I was in a big box store a while back, and as a guy looking for a guitar as a 2nd instrument, which is to say absolutely NO lead work, simply playing chords to write songs....the rep put a Jimmy Vaughn MIM strat in my hands that had a "V" shape (whether that was a "soft V", or regular "V", I have absolutely NO idea). The guitar was handed to me in passing....so I didn't actually play it. *That said....simply holding the guitar in a playing position (so-to speak), it fit my pre-pubescent-girl-sized, hands, like an absolute glove. It was incredibly comfortable. Now, to ask an incredibly stupid question...does the neck just sitting there in my hand comfortably, translate into actually "playing" well???? Maybe that's impossible to answer, without playing it for myself. But, a soft V shape in that context felt great....it fit the contour of my hand perfectly. Maybe once I get to playing chords, that will all change, as the shape of my hand changes depending on the chords being played...but, I thought that was an interesting point to bring up, given that in the context of Warmoth guitars, you don't get to play these necks before buying them....* Just a little something to think about, given you can spend $700-$800 for a custom neck. I'd love some feedback from the players "in the know"...
I played a strat with the soft-V and it was the most comfortable shape I ever felt…it worked great for chords as well as lead playing…you can’t go wrong with a soft-V…thats been my experience….good luck!!!!
@@eddiejr540 FINALLY! Some real-world feedback. Thanks, Eddie....I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on a neck to put on my strat. There must be something to it, given how many high-end strats/tele's have them. There's a JV tele that has a soft-V I'm thinking about getting as well. Thanks for your vote of confidence on this 👍
I got a wolfgang profile "hockey stick 1 5/8 nut about 20 or 21 years ago. It was nice.
Personal neck profile is where the rubber meets the road. Asked Warmoth for a Gibson scale Strat neck with wide spaced strings. On my doorstep within 2 weeks. 100% satisfied.
I like the sound of the asymmetric necks, it makes sense, I have small hands but long fingers, and when I am fretting chords the neck shape really becomes important. It has always amazed me how some people with really fat chunky fingers ever manage to fret anything cleanly, but the do, and some of the greats have fat chunky fingers.😀
The interesting thing about the Wizard is that it’s actually significantly fatter than the neck it’s named after. I think the closest analog to an Ibanez neck would be the original Jem profile, which is 0.75” at the first fret. I’d say the most important point though is what you made: if you like the feeling of a flattened neck back, you’ll like that neck. It’s kind of like a Standard Thin that had the center sanded down flat.
Totally agree. Small-medium fingers here. I have two Wizard Warmoth necks with jumbo frets, 1 5/8” and 1 11/16” respectively on super strat builds.
The former is a bit small but I adjust eventually. The latter definitely feels better. Though it is not as thin as an original late 80s “Wizard 1” Ibanez Saber 540S neck (which for some reason IS my favorite) Warmoth gets close especially if you go with the wider nut widths. Their’s is probably more akin to Wizard 2 profile which Ibanez tooled a little thicker.
Warmoth does a fantastic job.
Yes, the Wizard is thin, but it’s not thin like an Ibanez.
My RG550 is 0.67 at the first.
I’ve found the Wizard to be amazingly comfortable and the perfect balance between thin and playable.
Classy Tee design, man!
Hey man, great video as always! Miss seeing more often uploads from you guys, the videos are great and informative 🤙
My only Warmoth neck is the Wolfgang. Like you said, money. Of all three I have bought, it is my fave by far. Coupled with the compound radius and jumbo frets, it is the best of everything. Like the website says, it almost gives it a scalloped feel. The cowboy chords are easy to lay down low and the higher you get the flatter it gets. Brilliant. If you've never tried one, do it.
My favorite is wolfgang with a 5/8 nut. I'm gonna order another neck soon like that but with a gibson scale conversion and straight 16 radius.
Standard thin, 1-11/16" SS6105. '59 Roundback, 1.650" GD6150. Love them both.
Before I start, really cool t-shirt. Definitely have to get one of those. I dislike the Fender C-shaped necks they're not big enough. So I bought a Fender Clapton looking for the V shape and although I like the V shape I hated the Clapton neck because it is too small. I don't have big hands but I like the feeling of a baseball bat in my hand. That's when I went searching and found Warmoth. I've ordered a bunch of boat neck profile necks and I love them. They fit right in the crook of my hand and they are extremely comfortable. I actually wanted something a little fatter but Warmoth won't make anything past 1 inch deep so I ordered a fatback thinking it would feel even bigger in my hand but to my surprise without the V it actually feels smaller. So luckily I sanded down the shoulders on both sides so it would be a boat neck shape and it feels great again even bigger than the Fatback itself. I'm your number one boat neck fan. Most of the necks I have now our 1 11/16 because they are Strat necks with the Gibson 24 3/4 conversion. I do own one Strat neck that is 1 3/4 at the bridge and I admit it does feel a little large but not too big. Now that I have these custom necks with stainless steel frets I really can't even look at a guitar in a guitar store anymore because I know they'll never feel as good.
Boatnecks are the best of all worlds, and can customize the nut width. My early Bill Nash has one & the raw maple has been carefully smoothed and then an oil and wax finish applied, it's so comfortable and effortless.
Interesting note on the Fatback!
I'm thinking of trying some Strat neck profiles and I absolutely dislike wimpy neck profiles that flex too much and IMO probably sound thin by comparison.
I have a super-thin Wizard neck with the 1 5/8 nut that I just love. Most people that play my guitar don't like it at all.
Ha! Good theft prevention! :)
Just making order for the neck with wolfgang profile 😊, ss6150 frets / 22/ , roasted maple saft wood and roasted maple fretboard , 42 nut w , Nightswan , gold pearl inlay.
Look forward to my order coming in. Thanks for the clarification!👍👍
My first Warmoth neck was a Wizard profile with a 1-5/8” nut thinking I would love it due to having small hands. Oh, was I wrong! Fast forward 10 years and a few builds later I found that Standard thin with a 1-11/16” nut feels like home to me. I may venture into a Wolfgang profile for my next build. We’ll see
So wizard is no good? I have small hand too
I have a Warmoth Telecaster build with all of your parts except for the PRS humbuckers in it. The neck profile seems fairly slim, but at the edges of the fret board it feels like they're sort of squared off. This guitar was given to me in parts and I had it built.
Love the tshirt design! I ordered one last month along with my bass neck
Awesome! Thank you!
Hey, Thanks, that was Very Helpful. Probably the SRV Asymmetrical..?
That explains the great quality. You guys rock!
I have ordered several Warmoth necks over the years. I order the Fatback with 1-3/4'' nut and tallest SS frets. Then I shape the back profile to a pronounced V; all of them Strat or Tele.
Thanks for this video! This helped me make a decision
I'm glad he qualified the modern C as "closest to the Fender version" because I've found Fender's modern C profiles to be all over the place, from .78" to .83" at the 1st fret, depending on the year and the model and country of origin.
Yep. It's funny when people say that this thing or that thing isn't accurate to Fender's specs, because Fender's "specs" are a moving target.
Standard Thin. radius 9.5 nut 42 the best!!! love love love it!!!!
Lolz those are the specs of like... Lemme count........ 5 of my strats lol. I got a music man cutlass starry night limited edition matching headstock that has a str8 10 lolz. Aaron would maybe not like it though. It's a v to c shape neck lolz.
I’ve tried all but the Wolfgang and Fatback. My favorites are the 59 and SRV, though I have a Std Thin that I seem to also love.
Just ordered an SRV profiled vintage spec neck in my ongoing quest for a great strat.
Glow-in-the-dark picks? Fender used to have them around 20-25 years ago, I still have a half gross 'cuz I got thin.s..
Take your glow pick and favorite person into the dark room for a serenade, then start munchin' on a handful of wintergreen Live Safers candies for the sparky light show!
I got a Wizard profile from Warmoth over a year ago, because I didn't have so long of fingers for the usual C or D necks. I used to play more of blooz and thumb on top of the neck, but the bonus was that it made it way more comfortable for me to keep my thumb on the back, and even lower back of the neck, and it got me on to playing more articulate, and put my pinky in the game. After more than a year of use, I've fallen out of the blooz, and into a faster rock. I've played for a few decades, and this change was completely unexpected.
Great video as usual, thanks Aaron!
Is your EVH profile like the EBMM or the C to D shape of the Peavey?
EBMM
I have small hands and short fingers so the Ibanez Wizard and the Standard Thin are my favorites. I like to switch back and forth between my Warmoth guitars.
Love the video Warmoth!
🎉 wow that's awesome you guys have a 'Clapton' neck...(No1 guitarshop in Gothenburg Sweden)...well,well....
I have one of your 1-11/16 59 profile S neck.
I taped butt and headstock of the guitar.
Then started filing then sanding (with the strings still in)until it felt right. If you don't figure string action into to shaping equation you might make it too thin.
Ended up wit asymmetrical contour in the original 59 shape.
It's bigger than my Wolfgang contour.
What is closest to a Charvel type with fender headstock
Great video. I loved the information.
Was hoping you'd go into some older ones. I have a non logo Warmoth neck. It was on a guitar built by Wayne Charvel before they were making necks
Music man silhouette neck profile and the charvel pro mod DK roasted maple necks
Are 2 of the most comfortable necks I've ever played..
Your new haircut looks great bro!
Ha, thanks! Still trying to determine if the haircut also stripped me of my super-powers.
I’m interested in the Wolfgang but don’t see them listed on the website
The Wolfgang profile is available on all our necks. In custom builder just choose Wolfgang from the dropdown.
Would love to see more profile and radius options for bass necks.
So is the wolfgang similar to the ACTUAL EVH wolfgangs? Those feel awesome!
They all vary slightly, so it's never exact....but it's close. For the closest feel you'll need to also get a 1-5/8" nut width.
I want to order a neck but I can not decide between a 59 Roundback and the SRV (1.650 nut width, 6105 frets, straight 9 radius). I kind of like medium necks. Tough decision without holding it in my hands...
I got a free American Standard lefty Strat that I flipped, ala Jimi, and bought the boat neck just to see what a fat-ass ol' neck would feel on it. Friggin' LOVE that neck. Also, the neck has a 12-16 radius, just to be random, but that worked out as well.
Put a '59 with a 7.25 radius on my Tele and that rocks too. BOTH roasted maple w/stainless steel frets.
Great video, bought a guitar with a 59 roundback, so far it’s great imho.
Please bring back the mary kay color 😊🙏
I used to use love the wolfgang profile the most. But I sprained my hand recently and my grip changed a bit. So I got a neck with wizard profile, 5/8 nut, and straight 16 radius. It's narrow as hell, but it's damn comfortable. I can still play with my thumb over, and it's very smooth. Gonna get the same with a 12-16 radius for another guitar.
Dang...that sucks! Hope your hand is better now!
@@warmoth oh it is! Thanks!
Great video Aaron - thank you for the run-down. Knowing that you prefer Floyds, I wonder whether there’s a locking nut option on the way for the 1.650” necks?
I think you can get a 1.650 nut width routed for an R2 nut if you call in, but not 100% sure. The execs have been leery to make it a permanent offering since the width of the Floyd nut and the neck at the nut don't match exactly. However, I know from experience it works great, as I have an ESP Eii-ST2 with that exact combo. I'll bring it up at our next meeting.
@@warmoth Thanks man - it is a bit that noone seems to make locking nuts in 42 mm anymore, as it is the perfect compromise nut width IMHO.
I started with a 1 11/16 standard thin and found it a little too thin for me. But over time I got very accustomed to it, as I liked everything else about that neck/guitar. Then on my next build I tried a 1 11/16 59' roundback. At first I found it too chunky, but after a month or so of playing it frequently it became super comfortable to me! Now I don't want to play anything else!
How hard is it to go back n forth?
@@zeusapollo8688 Not bad, the standard thin just feel kind of skinny to me now since I'm the '59 is my main guitar
I grew up on Jackson and Ibanez necks so my jam is 43mm nut, Fatback profile and SS6105 frets, naturally.
My first warmoth guitar had a standard neck, and I missed the feeling of a fender Billy Corgan signature strat I had before that one. For my next warmoth guitar I went with 59 roundback and that one felt exactly how I wanted.
I would love that warmoth made poly satin finish instead of nitro. Again, my first warmoth guitar had the nitro and I didn't like the feeling, but for the second I asked a luthier to apply a poly finish like Corgan's strat, and that was what I was looking for
SRV profile fan here. Might try '59 on my next build.
I have come to love the Wolfgang neck profile for Guitars that i want to feel fast and SRV for guitars that i want to feel big. So most guitars these days have (or will get in the future) the Wolfgang. Its more massive than the Standard thin and gives the guitar a fatter sound in my opinion. Its just amazing! Oh, and width is always 1 11/16.
One video I'd love to see is a basic out of the box neck setup. Aaron does a lot of videos demonstrating various necks, and Warmoth builds and demos many, many more. So I would think there is a "basic" out of the box install setup the Warmoth team has? I have quite a few Warmoth necks, and will admit that I always struggle to get the first setup right, especially on Modern Construction necks...and then I spend weeks chasing the neck before I get it where I want it. On a Modern Construction neck should one install it as is from the box and then do adjustments with the side mechanism? Or should one add in a quarter (or more turn) on the rear adjust and then do the first install? I've tried both approaches and still ended up with a chase. Sure would be nice to know how to do it from the pros themselves. There are always personal variables, but knowing an average action, 9 gauge setup would be a handy reference.
For me it's always a bit of a chase as things settle in. Probably takes six months of tweaking before all those pieces of wood realize they are now a guitar. With any neck I start by adjusting the truss rod until the neck is dead straight (usually not more than a complete turn of the adjustment nut), then attach it, string up, and see where I am at with the string tension added, and adjust from there.
I would love to be able to walk into a place and try my hands on all different neck profiles to figure out really what I prefer. My hands do adjust to pretty much any profile after a few minutes, but I know some definitely feel better than others. I have small hands as well, but I don't really mind a thicker neck as long as it doesn't have thick shoulders like a D. I think what my hand likes most is some kind of soft V. I have a 70s Kay that has one of the most comfortable necks I've ever held, and it seems to be maybe an asymmetrical neck, but the opposite of yours - the shoulder is shaved off kind of like a V on the thumb side, and is rounded on the finger side. Something about that shape seems to match the shape of my hand when I let it curl naturally. (I suspect that your asymmetrical is more suited to those holding lower slung guitars with the neck in the curl of their palm, while my Kay is more suited to people who hold it higher, with their elbow lower than or even with the level of the neck, and the neck against the heel of the thumb)
Yeah totally, along with the actual shape, nut width is a big influence on how the neck feels in the hand, also the fret size and scale length matter: I have a roundback neck with 6100 frets, feels huge compared to 6105. And yes, the normal thin is the go to if you're not sure.
59 with a 1-11/16" is the one for me. I have 2 of them and another on order. The playability and tone is great. I am a Les Paul player and find this one is very similar to the 50's neck.
I'm trying to replicate my SG Special 2004 neck for a Strat build. Hope you don't mind me asking - is that a similar feel? Standard Thin and 59 Roundback seems slightly too far either side and I'm too nervous to pick!
@@Oharris995 Depends on the neck profile that you have on your SG (they can vary widely depending on 60's profile, 50's profile, etc). I would say get a set of calipers or another device to measure the neck thickness and compare with the Warmoth one that is closest. If it is a 50's style neck, the 59 profile will be the one you want with a 1 11/16" neck. This one feels closest to my 2011 SG and 2012 traditional LP.
@@mattb383 mine comes out at roughly 0.830-0.960, which feels hard to choose with Warmoth.
@@Oharris995 I have an 83 92 Musikraft one and it feels very similar to the 59 from frets 1-7 but the 92 is def thinner in the upper frets. Both are great necks but the Warmoth feels more like a Gibson neck. Nut width is super important for feel as well...probably moreso than thickness for me.
@@mattb383 thank you for responding man! Very helpful.
Great video, my inner nerd was very satisfied.
That was a great help! THX
3 of my 4 Warmoth builds have the Standard Thin back profile. The neck I chose for the Body of Mystery body I won is a roasted maple boatneck Warhead with a no-inlay rosewood fingerboard. The Body of Mystery VIP is a special guitar for me so I chose the boatneck to give it a try. I like it but I am glad I have Standard Thin on my other guitars that I use more often. My next build will have the Wolfgang profile \m/
Great haircut dude!
I've cut my shampoo and condition expense by 75%!
I'd like to ebonize a rosewood fret board could you address that process thanks for your videos they help
Hi there! Great video!!! Really helpful!
Question: I am going to purchase a Warmoth neck soon. I currently have a Charvel neck,
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• FRET SIZE: Jumbo
• NUT MATERIAL: Floyd Rose 1000 Series Locking
• NUT WIDTH: 1.6875" (42.86 mm)
And in the past I had a one of those Ibanez RG series that had a very thin neck. I believe you call it a wizard neck.
And in the video you mention the Wolfgang neck profile. I was intrigued by that but wanted to know between what I have, the wizard neck and the wolfgang what do you think would be a very suitable profile for a new neck?
While I really enjoy playing rock, hard rock, etc. I’d like to also branch out to more versatile genres.
Thank you so much for making this video again it was very helpful and I think has a great utility for people who are shopping Warmoth necks.