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- When discussing climate change, it's not about saving the planet.
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One of the common mistakes people make about climate change is saying that it’s about “saving the planet.” But that’s not really the right way to think about it.
Earth has gone through immense climate changes many times before, in some cases leading to mass species extinction. Now, we’re living through the onset of human-caused climate change, and slowing it down isn’t about saving the Earth. It’s about saving ourselves.
Humans have been around for just .004% of Earth’s history. And in all of human history - the 200,000 years since our species began - we’ve had agriculture for just 5% of that time and electricity for .07% of that time.
The simple truth about climate change is that it isn’t new to the planet, but civilization is. And with climate change we’re inviting a level of climate disruption that human civilization has simply never seen before.
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0:48 that birth of civilization animation was kinda incredible
+Paint Some really good motion design right there
What's up!
+Paint Hey, bub! Great channel you have there"_")
It was really great! Any idea who made the animation??
Fancy meeting you here 🙂
Looks like some of you guys misinterpreted the video. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't worry about climate change, nor we didn't cause the rise of global temperature. The video just stating that the *focus* is wrong, we often said that "we need to save the earth", or "we're destroying the earth". No, we're not destroying the earth itself, it wont be destroyed.... that's why the campaign is (maybe) ineffective. But life on the earth IS in danger, not 100% of them obviously, but most of them, including human. So, this video is telling us that focus of climate change campaign should've been life, nature, and human.
EDIT: for people who (still) say it doesn't matter, it does, at least psychologically. When the campaign say "save the earth" most people feel skeptical because they know we can't destroy this enormous rock in the first place. But if the campaigns are saying to save human and other life on the earth, it'll make them care more about it.
+ShyTen i think the point is that most people immagine a worst case scenario of global warming as humanity living in a desolated planet, while the reality is that the planet will carry on fine but without us.
+ShyTen it's not pointless. ppl should understand the cause, the truth beyond cliches to rally support.
+Game Over exactly :)
+Game Over I always read it as "we need to save the earth -as we know it-"... Figured most would have understood that the earth itself wasn't going to implode if it got 3 or 4 degrees warmer. Haha!
+Game Over When we say "we need to save the earth" we are 0bviously not referring to the piece of rock on which we walk but to everything that lives on it.
The video was pointless on this matter, but still informative on other aspects.
As George Carlin put it: "The planet's fine. WE'RE fucked."
Can you do more videos on climate change please? Thanks.
I love your vids there amazing
Hello. I used to watch your videos but I’ve had a change of perspective
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Great video! This is exactly what I tell people when I talk about climate change. The world doesn't need us. We are the most vulnerable species. We need the world.
This should be a longer video. I know +Vox doesn't do long videos. But if they do, it should be this one. There's way more things to say about it and many things to get deeper into. Still good video, tho.
Avastar_Bin You can always read their articles for more in-depth analysis. The ones on climate change and in the section "The Big Idea" are especially good.
George Carlin anyone?
+magu
The planet is fine. The people are fucked.
+jktomas That's not right, either. Some people are fucked.
+Kyle Rybski If we don't stop polluting, we ALL are effed.
+ShyTen Why is that so?
We are just Mother Nature's way of creating plastic.
Guys we are not destroying the earth We are destroying ourselves.
No we are not.
anyone knows what's the musical track between 1:07 and 1:57. with the piano and strings?
*Republican Platform:* So basically this means we need to build a wall on out southern border?
The Republicans of yesterday are the Democrats and Progressives of today. The Republican party of today is leaning dangerously to the right. It's too nationalistic, favors big money donors over representing the people, and favors industry over the environment.
Yes, we need to build that wall and make the second law of thermodynamics pay for it!
+Dylan Sepasyar Republicans & Democrats BOTH DELAYED women's right to vote for over a century in the 19th century. They were never any heroes. Rs & Ds have GREATLY expanded the police-prison state.
They did NOTHING to stop the holocaust of factory farming. Because Rs & Ds are all RIGHTWING EXTREMIST. Let's see one of them declare WAR on factory farming. Let's see one of them declare WAR on prisons & police. Let's see one of them declare WAR on fossil fuel addiction and WAR FOR green energy.
+Dylan Sepasyar A criminal in another country is a patriotic freedom-fighter in someone else's country.
Well, it worked for Westeros...
NO [CC] Closed Captioning.. REALLY?
Please add it please.
+Scott Slone Apologies, they take a while to process but they are up now!
+Vox You're awesome and thank you!
+Scott Slone
*_you deaf?_*
+Djumba F. *He possibly, genuinely, is fool.*
#firstworldproblems
This is the most well thought out argument I've heard for taking climate change seriously. I was always on the fence about disappearing species. How I see it is that the only constant is change and animals must evolve with the changing times (and they have). Climate change is really not about the world as we know it disappearing, it's about us are becoming more vulnerable. Thank you Vox!
Where do I become a patron? A channel that makes videos of this quality needs to be supported.
"It's not the end of the World, just the end of civilization."
The irony is that the selfishness got us here and selfishness, used right, will save us. Unfortunately, I suspect selfishness will just save the rich and leave the poor to suffer, we need to learn to share our selfishness. xD
Share our selfishness? Now that's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one :P
DEMIGOD9247 Yup xD
What I mean is that we need to be selfish as a species.
If we don't act within 10 years it is going to take out everyone in the end, wealthy or not.
Vox's animation has been improving a lot. Add to it compelling a story and narration with great background music and you get a great video. I don't agree with everything you guys post, but I think that is suppose to be the point, but nonetheless you guys are doing impressive work. Keep up the good work.
How does one not agree with blatant science?
True, but that does not elevate the fact that we must do something in order to prevent this instability to get out of hand.
+LimeBlazer Depends on what you mean by "do something." To a lot of activists, this means wealth re-distribution which economists are against.
+LimeBlazer Instead, governments should encourage capitalism and innovation by stepping out of the way.
+gangreneday economists are not against wealth redistribution, also it has nothing to do with climate change.
+gangreneday Historically, governments have driven long-term innovation. From processors to the internet to rocketry and nuclear energy. Corporations are too concerned with the short term, unless they are monopolies.
+Patternicity It is more of a biological thing. Humans are wired with biases in our genetics. One of the major problems is a lot of individuals cannot disconnect themselves from these biases. Hank green on scishow does explain these (I do not really want to write pages about this haha) biases but in terms of anti-vaccination. While I understand vaccines has nothing to do with this subject, he explain the concept of these biases and how they influence humans decisions, which also includes the whole anti-climate change mentality.
Thank you Vox. This is a discussion I’ve been having for years regarding human impact on our ecosystem. It’s like we are all collectively pooping in our own drinking water and then arguing over whether we are cause of it becoming undrinkable. What we are doing is self limiting. The earth will survive and life will continue to thrive, albeit in another form that has adapted to a warmer climate, what we do to it after we have been eliminated by our own design, or by Mother Nature.
one of the loveliest music tracks I've heard on Vox
zaiddagamseh You should check out The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows. The track is there too
Love the video. Content, bgm, voice over, everything's on point.
out of all the climate change films i've seen & things I've read this was the best I've seen. In that in just 2:45 minutes you produced such a clear message of the key problem that everyone should hear & know.
I like these kind of videos, showing statistics, stating facts without showing external sources.
I think George Carlin said it best. "Don't worry about the planet it will shake us off it's back like it has fleas. The planet will be fine. It is us who are fucked so stop blaming the planet".
I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment. I live in Scotland and in the middle of December I don't even have the heating on (what?). This is a first for me and I'm 50yrs old. I've never been in that situation before. It's totally unheard of here at this time of year. I can actually warm my house up by opening the windows ?????????
please make a video on how you produce your videos, animations, graphics, what software u are using etc!!
Cheers to the animator and video editor! Awesome job.
I think when you heard the phrase "save the planet", you misunderstood it, its means in short "save the biosphere as we know it", but that is too long so we say save the planet. Its great that you're providing people with info they probably didn't know, but I don't think anyone was wrongly informed if they were talking about saving the planet
Saying "save the planet" is naught but exaggeration and fear mongering. Calling airconditioning a greater threat than ISIS is more of the same.
lol I always thought this too. It's not the earth that's in trouble, it's us.
the problem of the video is that it's very anthropocentric, I don't blame her, that is the way we were raised. In the video it says that the problem we should be conserned withl is that climate change is affecting us as humans. I believe we should be concerned because it is affecting all life on earth!
we are experiencing the biggest mass extinction of species since the ice age!
This video is extremely anthropocentric. Yes climate change is about us, yes the vulnerability of human civilization, but it's ALSO about every other species on earth!! Yes, most humans only care about themselves, their community, etc. But climate change is disrupting the populations of MANY MANY species. For example, the changes in ocean temperature is killing coral and various other animals up the food chain. The changes in climate zones is forcing the migration of species (such as birds) into areas that don't contain adequate natural habitat for their survival. And the various other environmental issues that play into climate change (deforestation, mining, etc.) impacts species...
As long as we're talking about timelines, and how short of an amount of time we've been on the planet, and how its even shorter that we've been using fossil fuel...
...it should ALSO be noted that its been a VERY short amount of time that we've been able to actually physically monitor temperatures.
All other data, the data that goes back "tens of thousands" of years, is based off of ice core samples. Its literally "proxy" data, or a suggestion that we MIGHT know what the temperature was in a certain area of the planet only on certain days where the ice packed. And from that.... we're trying to chart the temperature changes by fractions of a degree over millennia.
So as someone who loves science, I find it completely insulting when its suggested that we "know" what is happening on temperature trends over the ENTIRE planet by taking proxy measurements over millennia on one area of the planet, and extrapolating that as us knowing what happened all over the world. Its further insulting that we literally change data from older weather instruments because we know that the data was flawed, but we presume to be able to "guess" how to correct that data.
And then there is the observation thing; that if you start observing anything from a fixed point in time, you'll be convinced that any trend you see is something important. No matter if it happened before.
Would somebody please tell me the music used in this video? It's rather stimulating, almost as much so as the actual content of the video. I must admit I had to watch it twice. Once for the video, once for the music. Thanks to anyone who knows.
When one say "save the planet" they are not being literal, the phrase is a figure of speech meant to cause emotion that someone will act on. Additionally, it is about saving the planet, or at least the life on Earth which will suffer along side humanity and civilization. Life will be reduced to. Nit picking a phrase because it is not literal enough is a strange and obtuse thing to do, it also makes it seem as if climate change is not an immediate threat. It is not just about us, it is about life.
+GoldenTacoCat While this statement makes sense, I think they were trying to illustrate the fallacies of certain individuals who disagree with climate change. That is kind of the reasons why scientists have changed the phrase "global warming" to "climate change" now. Both of these, in a scientific standpoint, are the same thing. But in the general public, especially the people who disagree, these are two different concepts. Sadly though, the word of the phrase was met with the same agenda. This is why I think vox took an unconventional way of explaining global warming by utilizing the "save the planet" concept. They are trying to further emphasis the impact of climate change on humans by removing the aspect of other species on this planet (I am not saying that it lessen or changes the overall goal to save other species).
I agree. Isn't the thing that makes Earth unique is its sustainability for life? I think we all know this already, that saving the planet means saving lives. It doesn't have to be literal.
So...I do need to go vegan...? :(
yes
well, you're wrong sooooo
***** that actually made no sense at all, lol. you see, by consuming animals/ animal products, you are harming yourself, the animals, and the environment all at once. factory farming, is the number one cause of global warming, look it up or watch cowspiracy. we have evolved enough that we don't need to consume animals to survive, it's actually harming us more than helping. choosing to eat vegan saves you from heart disease, cancer, osteoporosis, etc. there are a lot of vegan alternatives now a days, so why choose the fattening, unhealthy, and cruel food? if you say taste, then you're wrong. vegan food is delicious and it's always what you make it. if you want to eat a bunch of alternatives well you can, go ahead, or you can also go raw vegan, or just eat a bunch of fruits. it's pretty amazing. there is also a "burger" than bleeds, and it's 100% vegan just search up Impossible Burger :D
And what do we do when we all go vegan, and the animals are useless to us? We let them go into the wild? Domesticated animals as they are now wouldn't stand a chance with any sort of predator around, so animals roam in the wild would mean more would die, which is what you're actively promoting we stop, so really the better option would be vegetarianism- but then, the poor piggies are on their own there.
It will definitely help lol
everything is connected. If you talk about the earth you talk about people at the same time and vice versa. There is no separation. We act and the earth respond. The earth act and we respond. Let each one of us love nature and earth will nurish you back. Let us teach that to our children as well.
this aged well
I've been arguing this concept for a while now
One of my favourite Vox videos. Simple, but so powerful.
The sheer number of people who still say '"Climate change is a hoax" is astounding. And to think of it, these are the ones that claim who complain that the days are getting hotter/colder by the day.
This is exactly why I don't get people being so vehemently against the idea of climate change. It's literally in their best interest to fix it, the earth doesn't give a poo whether we're on it but, by definition, we do.
+Vox What is the music used in this video?
the last piece is called "mother cloud" by lorne bafle.
i looked long and hard when i heard it first its pre nice
What people get wrong about climate change
*everything*
Video ends
Its a good point. People say we can't afford to make changes. Climate change is already costing us a lot with fires and hurricanes. The planet will still be here long after we are gone.
This is the best explanation of Climate Change I have ever seen. It makes it clear what the risks are for civilisation if we fail to take climate change seriously. It's not about saving the planet, it's about us and our vulnerability to a level of climate disruption civilisation has never seen.
This vid is good from the perspective of an individual who acknowledges the issue, its causes and its consequences. But overall, it's a BAD video. Because most people who get all this wrong, or who denie it because of, well, classical human denial, will get the theme of "the planet has beew trhpough cycles before and we're here and nothing will happen and let's keep getting the V8 diesel truck to the mall for groceries." And they will be reinforced because this is a very professional and well-regarded channel.
Actually, diesel fuel and cars have lower emissions than regular cars, so...
Yea, get that diesel.
DBZHGWgamer Lower emissions, but deadlier. Particulates filters were invented for diesels... nasty "little" buggers.
PD. Im not the one to talk, i have two diesel cars, but at least they are only 1.5 and around 5.5 l/100 combined consumption... Not TOO bad, LOL.
No, "the planet has beew trhpough cycles before and we're here and nothing will happen" is older than vid. What this vid exposes is that "the planet is used to climate change, we aren't"
So you're blaming Vox for other peoples' confirmation bias problem?
Al Quinn Yes, because a good report should take that into account, specially one that tries to bring light on a matter as important as this.
Wait, what's your point?
+TomHasVideo
The point is that it's important to frame a problem in the proper way so we don't create a false culture around it which could misrepresent the problem to those who don't understand it. Any more condescending/dismissive questions?
***** Why are you being mean though?
TomHasVideo
Mean is a strong word. Snarky? Sure. Righteous? Maybe. Not mean though, nothing in my patient and explanatory tone was mean.
***** Pretty mean to be honest mate.
TomHasVideo
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but in this day and age if you can't walk away from a harsh comment without taking personal offense, then maybe you shouldn't be on the internet.
Am I the only one that loves string based orchestra coupled with the evolution of humans? LIKE I MAKES ME FEEL SO GOOD!
Earth has never had an ideal climate for humans. Hence why we live indoors.
Yeap, the earth will continue to exist, meanwhile humanity will perish...
But then again i love my car and my A/C :(
We hardly have any effect on climate change actually. Keep using your car and A/C.
so i take it vox hasn't seen cowspiracy
Sadly not xD
THANK YOU
please explain
AFGNCAAP the great Watch Cowspiracy and you'll understand. Mindblowing doc. www.thedaretelly.com/watch/cowspiracy-the-sustainability-secret-2014 Also on Netflix I believe
Joshua Benson yeah, nah. It swayed one of my friends so I went looking directly for the primary sources without bothering watching it. Needless to say the sources were trash.
The very last sentence... Something that the human race has never seen before. Let that sink in.
Yes, but big extensions took place during thousands of years, it was gradual, it leaves time for species to adapt and survive . But it’s been only 200 years. This change is way too fast for our planet to handle without our help. I saw no one point this out and I think it is really important because it ruins the entire message of the video.
Pretty cool, proof of something we have never seen before but no fear God will soon be here, jkjk
+amoore67 xD
+amoore67 lol
Wtf? Hahaha
Now i can feel safe, knowing that the earth won't be destroyed, but humanity will...
Good video but it is also about saving the thousands of others species that humans depend on for survival. If ecosystems fail, we fail.
Not my favorite video about climate change... definitely a different approach, but it is vague and pretty selfish. It isnt just about us and about a continuation of climate instability. It is about the rapid change in short periods of time. It is about the impact of the human species on other habitats and organisms. It is not just about our comfort in a stable environment.
People should say 'saving humanity'.
when will people listen! Doing something about climate change is not about saving the planet, it's about saving us!
People have been creating inventions for over 50 years to solve this issue, yet we have a few industries slowing down the progress of these inventions who don't want to lose the money they've long been making.
I knew about this 15 years ago that's why I did not understand. now you have the story right thank you
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!! I have been trying to explain this to people FOR THE LONGEST TIME. The earth will be fine through global warming. Humans will not.
Humans are the scourge of this planet. Unless we learn to be better Earthlings, I don't really sympathize with our species
Actually the first widely used "fuel to burn" was wood and not coal. Most of the natural forests were cut down Europe by the end of the 15th century. This resulted in massive problems back then, this was the 1st energy crisis.
"The human population has quadrupled and thus so has the capacity for suffering"
This makes it sound like suffering is some unique human quality. My guess is that the increase in the human population has also caused a decrease in the non-human population. In other words no change to the capacity for suffering on earth. Yes? No?
***** I guess so. I don't really see how it's relevant.
***** We don't really know that a Yellowstone eruption is impending any time soon do we?
***** Interesting. But is there really anything that can be done about it?
+lee comstock nope we are fucked
this isn't about my eating problem, it's about my vulnerability to the variety of cheeseburgers and pizza I've never seen before...
This is true. This fight is for us, not for the earth. But earth is also us...
"Save the mother earth " sounds better instead of saying " Save ourselves " which sounds too selfish
The first graph doesn't even cover our entire 200,000 year history, yet it clearly shows we've survived through more dramatic changes and higher temperatures. In fact, we seem to do better when it's warmer.
However, we really need to stop destroying our planet, forest, and oceans, regardless of whether or not we can take the heat.
We have survived dramatic changes, but civilization has not. The point of the video is society, not necessarily human life. Though suffering will also be way larger than ever because the population has never been so large.
Also, the problem isn't climate change itself. It's the acceleration of it which we humans have a direct impact on. For the planet to warm by 3 whole degree globally would normally take hundreds or thousands of years. This is plenty of time for animals to adapt. For us as a species to increase the temp 3 degrees within 100 years is mind boggling. Species have no time to change, and therefore go extinct, throwing the delicate balance of life into disarray.
If civilization depends so much on climate stability, we only have two choices: either we figure out some way to stabilize the climate while maintaining civilization as we know it, or we keep reducing our dependency from climate stability more and more. We just have to agree on which one of the two strategies is more cost-effective.
+Rafael Merino Civilizations rise and fall. If our civilization collapsed we will only be an other chapter in the book of mankind. People will dig our trashfields and study our societies, our believes and our behaviors. It would only be stupid for us to commit eco-suicide. The first worldwide civilization, sending man to the moon, but not able to safe itself.
Life has recovered from mass extinction events before, and massive climate change.
The problem is, civilization hasn't. We haven't had this scale of mass excitation since the beginning of civilization. We haven't had this scale of climate change since the beginning of civilization. Life can recover, the climate can recover. We're just not sure if we can recover.
No. A. They used data for 150 thousand years when we have over 450 thousand years of data showing a specific pattern, NOTHING unusual about where we are right now. And B. There is no conclusive study showing that carbon emissions are drastically affecting the temperature in the way that many claim. And C. These projections are based off of cherry picking data, and making claims that aren't backed by concrete studies.
Life will continue to exist on Earth despite what people due, the same can't be said about civilization.
Award to this crew for a beautifully succinct survey of our context and what does and doesnt apply to the current conversation. Heck yeah!
Fighting climate change is more about saving humans than saving the environment, which would evolve in any case.
Wow... That was.. Amazing, and I knew it wasn't the climate but our civilization but this explained it a lot better
I believe agriculture began 9000 years ago in the fertile crescent at the end of the Pleistocene era.
PLEASE the music piece in the beginning !? anyway thx for your videos they are always great to watch !
To quote a great man, "The planet isn't going anywhere, we are!"
What's the solo cello piece at the beginning of the video?
That background cello music is pretty sweet.
Does anyone know what the cello solo was at the very beginning? The song listed in the credits is not the same.
Acknowledging climate change implies having to take responsibility and changing the way things are done.
It means growing up.
Accepting that you live in a world where actions have consequences.
Letting go of a fantasy that you are going to be rescued from having to take responsibility for your own life.
As a cellist I would love to know the name of the piece use in this video so I can play it! Can you post it please?
Aidan Haslam it's shown on the end credits
I think the creators of the video should learn that the higher number in population is normal and it doesn’t effect the climate as long as the humans living is sustainable.
The truth is,
The Planet will survive.
Humans will also survive,
just not most of them.
The planet will not kill most of us,
We will kill each other to survive.
Food, shelter, water will become more expansive than most people can afford.
And that, is the beginning of the end.
The most terrible part about this is that out of those sentient beings that "have the capacity to suffer", the ones who contribute the least to the destabilisation and destruction of ecosystems are those who suffer the most of the consequences (the poorest of humans and all non-human animals)!
Please educate yourself about a vegan lifestyle. It's among the most important changes an individual can do in their life. :)
We are not only endangering the human species though, we are also endangering all other complex life as well... We are causing a mass extinction.
what song is this??
Wait...!!! I thought the earth was flat...
4 year's now have passed since this video has dropped
I really hope that there's a little change Atleast
We're also messing it up for all the other animals that currently live on the planet.
Everything is soon going to get really bad. Do things you feel like doing right now, buddies. Seize the day.
What people don't understand about global warming is that the main cause is not fossil fuels. The main cause is animal agriculture, the production of meat, dairy, and eggs. Animal agriculture is responsible for 51% of the total greenhouse effect.
when you can't even walk in a secluded place without taking in a lung-full of diesel exhaust, you know it's fucked
I really don't give a shit about humanity. The positive feedback loops have kicked in. Let it Burn.
Unless we stop thinking about money we can save the planet but I don't think we would
I also can't believe that CO2 was not mentioned with respect to climate change. An Inconvenient truth? Anyone?
so... it's all about saving our presence on earth and not the earth itself. got it
i dont agree with this facts. archeologists have found civilizations that have been on this earth tens of thousands years ago and had technologies that we dont have till this date.
Side note: It's not accurate to say mammals evolved from reptiles...reptiles still exist, as did a predecessor to mammalian life in the form of a shrew-like animal that lived side by side with ancient reptiles. The demise of the dinosaurs opened up a huge ecological niche for the said shrew to evolve into complex mammalian life w/o as much reptilian competition around. Furthermore the resource needs of large animals could not be met anymore, and smaller animals took a foothold on the planet.