The NEW Sony a6700 for Landscape (vs a7RV!)
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Hey there! It's been a while, but I'm back for a very good reason. I’ve been fortunate to have spent the last couple of weeks testing out the long anticipated a6700 - the next high end APS-C camera from Sony.
I've tested it in a bunch of different landscape situations - taken it to a waterfall, got a great sunset at the coast, and even snuck in some cityscape photography in Perth, and I’m excited to run through some images and share my thoughts. I even ran a direct comparison with landscape king, the Sony a7RV so we can start to get a sense of what, if anything, we're giving up by sticking with APS-C in 2023!
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0:00 Intro
0:52 Disclosure
1:10 Headlines
2:46 Video Specs
3:07 Cinematic Teaser
3:51 On Location!
4:52 Image Review
7:25 Landscape Likes
9:20 Dislikes
10:33 A Missed Opportunity
11:16 Outro
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Nice job with this review. You brought some features into light that others failed to point out. I’m considering this (and Fuji) due to the wide array of quality lenses available, along with the compact size making it good for travel and nature photos requiring extensive hiking. I don’t ever use video so only care about its photo-centric benefits.
Thanks so much! Really appreciate it. One thing I didn't get to is the fact that it's just a fun camera to use. The ergonomics and user experience has improved so much in recent years - I'll be keeping it in the bag (at least until I've got to give this one back 😆), but because it's barely any extra weight and it's so fun to use.
And not only for travel but also for a day trip in the nature with the family. Would be so nice with a smaller setup but I just need to think about only one SD card - that’s really the only major thing it’s missing 😅
This is the review that I been searching for!!! Bravo.
amazing review. Happy to see more from Perth
Great to see you back on TH-cam! Great camera as well!
Thanks Simone! Feels good to post again after so long haha
Liked the review mate. Going to upgrade from my a6500, lots of great video improvements for family videos.
I've been watching reviews for the past few hours now and I am so glad that the best one I've seen so far comes for a fellow Perthy :) Good stuff mate
Eeeey with a name like Damo you must be an Aussie 😆 Thanks so much mate!
Great video, cannot wait to get my a6700 and the 10-20 lens 😍
Super informative - thank you!
Hi tnx for the review, I'm from Perth
I've been using my A6500 for the last 6 years and its be a phenominal camera. From Landscape and Nature photography to Motorsport Photography. It's been a camera that has gone above and beyond what I needed it to do. I've always wanted a Full Frame camera but couldnt warrant the cost, this A6700 has truly captured my attention and I definitely will be getting one sometime this year.
Honestly, if you've already got the APS-C lenses, this is such a good upgrade for hybrid shooters. New menus, new sensor, awesome AF, touch functions, flip screen, crazy good video specs. Also I complained briefly about buffering in the video, but after some further testing, in Compressed Raw (rather than Lossless Compressed) the buffer is actually decent with fast SD cards - thought that might be relevant for your nature and motorsport stuff!
@@andrewjclarke Thank you for the feedback and updated information! This truly excites me. I feel like I've practically mastered the A6500 so an upgrade like the A6700 would be a big step up. I really want to get my hands on the 70-200 F4 Gen 2 as well. The new gear coming out this year seems so perfect for myself.
I also have the a6500 (about 5 years) and wondering whether I should upgrade to the a6700. It has much better focusing features. However, one loses the built in flash which have found to be quite useful for indoor photography. In fact, I like the built in flash better than an external one. Also, the “landscape” setting is no longer included. I’m wondering how I could get the same type of landscape feature with the a6700?? I take a reasonable amount of videos of the grandkids activities and generally they are acceptable (typically shoot 4k, 24p. I only use JPEG and video straight from the camera. Haven’t gotten into shooting raw and using external software for processing simply because it takes a lot of time and I’m not a professional photographer and really don’t think it would impress anyone in the family if the quality was better. Any thoughts and feedback on your reasoning for upgrading would be appreciated. Would it be better to buy some better lenses? I typically use the Sony F1.8, 24 mm and the Sony G F4, 18-105. I don’t use the kit lenses that came with the camera. I also have a Sigma F1.4, 30 mm, but don’t use that much because I prefer the 24 mm wider lens. Thanks.
Just get full-frame. I started with a Sony a6600. Then, I upgraded to a full-frame Sony a7IV. No regrets. If cost is an issue get a used, older, full-frame camera.
@@skatetoexplorevideos2477 full frame is overrated
Nice job with the camera when it comes to landscape
Great honest review. Still waiting for you to do wildlife review 🙂
Finally a landscape photography-based review.
Nice video and review! Are the colors on the LCD screen any good? The previous LCD screen colors are terrible. You have to open the files in your computer to see the real colors and details. Thanks!
Just wanted to say thank you for producing a photography-specific review, these are getting difficult to find these days.
Nice review, thank you. It's great to put a landscape slant in a review. For portrait oriented shots what L-bracket would you recommend for the A6700? I have a Smallrig on my A6400 which is fantastic but they don't make one for the A6700. Is that a 3leggedthing I spot on the A7RV ? Would that work on the A6700? Also, do you think it's worth upgrading to the A6700 from my A6400 ?
Thank you for introducing the bulb mode as I do take some astrophotography !
As a a6400 shooter looking for a second camera for not swapping lens between birding 70-350 & 18-135 general travelling or even 11 1.8 for landscape and a quick selfie should be a nice choice~
Good video Mate... 👍
Thanks Brett!
Great review Andrew and good points in regard to the shortcomings as well, especially bright view monitoring workflow. As a matter of interest did you get to try a copy of the new 70 - 200 f/4 lens as well?
Thanks Brian! Nah I haven't had a chance to use the 70-200 f/4 yet - looks very interesting!!
@@andrewjclarke especially combined with the 20-70 f/4 for light kit 🤔
Hi,thanks for your interesting review.
If you had to choose between the Sony A7C and the A6700 for taking static photos most of the time ( landscapes,cityscapes, architecture ,interiors and things like that),which camera would you choose?
Thanks!
Hopefully mine is delivered next week! 🙂
Great video does it have 4k SQ mode?
Trying to work through reviews and now here. I noticed you were using the 18-135 some. Which is a bit different, most of the reviews were using the 16-55/2.8. I was wondering if you could give a bit of an impression on using the 18-135 with this camera. I've got one with my A6400 as my primary walk around, "travel" lens but having retired and adding an A7Riv, that's been getting most of the use recently but the 18-135 and an A6xxx series is a good bit lighter and more compact.
My use case is more for taking videos of family gatherings, events and holidays. What is your opinion about the stabilisation when recording while handheld?
Current camera for photos is A7R III and videos is ZV-1.
Feel like I shouldn't be here, being an avid Olympus OMD user, but I like the approach to photography Andrew uses. So I will sit quietly in the background, learning from you Andrew, photography is my passion, and now I have retired I have the time to devote myself to this most engrossing of hobbies.
Great video. I am on pre order list at my local stockist. Could I ask you where you got your lovely Sony jacket from please.( I want one )
So good man! I think I'll actually pick one up tbh
Yeah I'm extremely tempted - best shooting experience in a small body by a long way! I just need better APS-C glass to go along with it 😅
Im just going to throw on the 24F28G and turn it into as close as I can get to RX1 😂
@@andrewjclarke Well that can be a problem, native aps glas from sony is nothing to write home about.
It was interesting that you referred to the Backlit sensor after doing all those long exposures. There is no advantage here. I think the real advantage is for wildlife photographers in dimly lid situations. Nice package, Sony!
Nice video - straight to the point with no waffle - found the channel by accident too, so one more subscriber!
On the A6700 you can select video or photo on the back but have a dial for 3 custom settings on the front. My question is - do the 3 memory settings apply the settings to both video and photo or are they 3 for photo and 3 for video, so 6 in total depending which rear dial setting you have?
Cheers! Glad you stopped by with an amazing question! I should have already known the answer to that, but I didn't, 3 for photo, 3 for video... 3 for S&Q! I will be using all 9 😆. This new development might be worth a video in itself...
@@andrewjclarke Wow really? 9 Presets! If that's the case then it's a big selling point for me!
@@andrewjclarkethat’d be great, especially since we can load our LUT presets into thr camera. would be crazy if we can easily change that on the fly
Have you had the chance to review raw files on the a6700? How is the noise and low light quality? Much appreciated thank you 🙏
Do you know if the burst images are forced into 12-bit Raw in the same way as the a6600 or does the new processor allow it to keep 14-bit Raw the way the A7RV shoots? I find this is would be a big benefit for wildlife/bird photography since I use the 70-350 f/6.3 at the long end, and most wildlife is active at lower light moments of the day.
Good question! I can confirm that the a6700 will do 11 fps in Compressed Raw, and still manages 10 fps in Lossless Compressed Raw - I just tested the fps and checked the metadata myself 👍. So you lose 1 fps to remain in 14-bit - not bad!
Hi, can i ask if sony removed multi frame noise reduction mode on this camera? Thanks!
I enjoyed your review. Im debating about trading my sony a7cii for the sony a6700 to use for my bird photography ect and buying a used sony a7rii for nice landscape. The other alternative is to just trade in a get the sont a7rc. What is your thoughts? thanks
Love to see beautiful WA. How is the video compared to ZV E1? I’m considering upgrading from my ZV E10. Mostly do Instagram music videos and done stills. I have a good collection of APSC lenses but open up selling them to get ZVE1 + 28 - 70 sigma 2.8 as my only lens if it makes more sense compared to A6700.
What lens filter setup are you using Andrew?
Nice work. I use my a6600 in the event that I want to shoot wildlife with a 1.5x “zoom”. When I go out with 2 bodies the a7iv gets the wide to standard range lenses, and the a6600 the longer focal lengths.
Exactly! Do you think if this could do 20+ fps with no buffering you'd be tempted to upgrade?
@@andrewjclarke eh not really. My a7iv doesn’t do that either. I’m happy around 10 fps. It keeps up with my dogs.
@@Reviews4fun1 Yeah fair enough! I also did a month long wildlife trip in March with only 10 fps and had a great time!
How about overheat issue Sir. ?? Please share with us about overheat issue in photography in this camera. Because i Thing I will buy this camera. But over heating issue really bother me. I will use it mainly for photo .
Are crazy high photo frame rates something compact hybrid shooters are after? I've set my X-T3 to high frame rate capture once in my 3 years of ownership.. and then had to sift through thousands of images! - I never set it to more than 3fps now which is adequate for all situations I am after. If you are shooting sports or something mission critical, wouldn't you just get a bigger body with a decent EFV and LCD, etc?
I for one am glad the A6700 didn't make that a focus, I have no use for the higher frame-rate on my X-S20, I wish the budget was spent on something more useful like weather sealing.
just bought one, thanks for your share. What kind of filter will be better? Kase or Nisi?
Nice! You're gonna love it. I've been using the Haida M10-II bracket system for like 18 months and I love it - super fast to set up and pack down, and they've got these awesome 2-in-1 ND + CPL filters that make life really easy. But I haven't used Kase or Nisi so I don't know how they compare!
What is this bright monitoring you speak of ?
It would b great if u have discussed settings u used to capture certain landscapes
Well done on Sony sending you as you small channel. Nice work 😊
Thanks! I've been working with them in Aus for many years - just not so much on TH-cam! I'm hoping to do much more on here though! Thanks for the comment :)
I don’t know whether to get this or Canon R8 for landscapes
Nice, no built-in flash this model?
Who is the name lens for sony a6700 in this video?
Where did you get your jacket?
I can agree with your menu issues, but Cfexpress type A in this body with only one card slot at those prices is pretty much a non starter. I would have liked another card slot, then maybe a Cfexpress type A, but you would have to increase the body size, which would have increased the price of what Sony was going for.
I would like to see Sony do what they did with the Fx3 and fx30 by taking a full frame body like an a7iv size and just sticking a cropped size sensor in it and then you could get all of the features you want at a reduced cost. This a6700 is a baby A7RV.
would you recommend upgrading from a Sony a6000 to a Sony a6700?
6:56 lmao 😂💀 but thanks for this very helpful video 🙏 I’m really in doubt whether I should be getting this a6700 or a7 IV. I have a7 III now 😳 and consider myself as a hybrid shooter such as landscape photography and a lot of b-roll footage of nature and details in the nature etc.
😁 I really wanted to include the photo to justify including that section of video... but it was just way too bad haha.
Yeah I think a6700 vs a7IV might be the toughest decision out there at the moment in the Sony ecosystem!! Hard to beat the a6700 for hybrid value, and the video specs are kinda nuts at that price point. But I do think the lens options and upgrade paths are better on full-frame. Too hard!
@@andrewjclarke haha I understand. It was just too fun to watch 😅
Thank you for your time and really appreciate your answers. Very helpful and I will keep thinking and considering 😅 But if I know myself well I will probably end up with a7R V just to cover everything as it is right now. Even though it’s only capable of 6-7 FPS in photo mode it can still handle some fast paced shooting as I understand.
I think this can match the old nikon d800 full frame when it comes to photography
have mine otw from Bh upgrading from the 6100
1:15 well BSI sensors are in the APS-C since A6300 :) so it is not the first BSI
Hey @SimeonKolev thanks for your comment! Do you have a source on that? The documentation Sony gave me disagrees with you!
@@andrewjclarke ops my mistake :D I remembered it wrong. It was copper wired not BSI. I remember there was an upgrade from A6000 but I remembered it wrong.
How is the EVF blackout and lag with burst shooting with both the mechanical and electronic shutter at 120hz refresh rate ?
Thanks for the comment! I just took like 1500 photos of the wall in my studio to test 😂.
I can confirm there is no blackout when shooting bursts, but the EVF does lag a decent amount under standard conditions. The lag improves a bit going to 120Hz, it improves further by going to electronic shutter and again by shooting in Compressed RAW. If you do all three of those things the lag is pretty well controlled - I feel like I could track a bird in flight with no issue.
@@andrewjclarke You might have to go and find some swallows - if you can track them and keep them in the frame then it will be good enough for everything else !
@@duncangroenewald Haha I'm not sure I can track swallows even with the a1 - might need to put it in the hands of a real wildlife pro for that test!
Hey Andrew I hope you are able to respond, I’ve been in the market for a camera at around this price range and my dream camera has always been to get the Sony a7c! But now that this little beast has been presented, what are your honest thoughts when comparing the older a7c ff camera to this newer feature filled 6600?
Hey! Great question. I've got such a soft spot for the a7C, because it's been in my bag as a backup almost permanently for the past 3 years and it's saved me on many occasions. The image quality is excellent and the size is great. I hate the lack of controls , the EVF and I really don't like using it for video - 8 bit codecs are a huge step down and I would always struggle to get it to match my a7SIII. All of these are fixed on the a6700.
I think the a6700 is the better camera in almost all respects. Where I would favour the a7C is (1) if you've already got FF lenses, or you cant find the specialty lenses you want in the APS-C range (2) If you are big into astrophotography, I expect the a7C will outperform the a6700 (in part also due to the amazing FF astro lenses).
I can't test the a6700 just yet for astro because we can't properly access RAW files. But I've got the APS-C 15mm f1.4 in my hands now to test - so a video will come to answer that question ASAP! Hope this helps!
@@andrewjclarke this was very informative, Thank you so much! I’m excited to see the next content you post! Can’t wait to see more of this! Thank you so much.
@@andrewjclarkethank you for this great insights. this hurt, cause I’m shooting a ton in the night, but already invested into the APSC line ^^’
probably eill wait for an A7Cii to make a decision this year :)
Great video, thank you for presenting a landscape photography perspective! Do you know of any remote shutter triggers (wired or wireless) that work with this camera? I’m not fond of using the buggy app that disconnects all the time.
Is Sony going to fix the low light issues? It has a ton more noise than the ZV-E10 at max low light.
How did you compare the two when the a6700 doesn't yet work with raw converters?
@@rsmith02 Is that why low light filming has so much noise in it?
How does this stack up against an A7iv ? I used to have an a7iii and sold it . Looking to get back into it and want a hybrid camera and I’m really liking this price point.
For video I actually think the a6700 is a solid winner - it does 4k60p without a crop and 4k120p, which is already better than the a7IV. People who are better at testing these things are saying that the noise performance and dynamic range is not far behind the a7IV, so for the price I think the a6700 is the better value option. Photo wise I think both are excellent, but it's hard to give any real concrete advice until we can properly test the RAW files. I suspect if you do a lot of low light or astro, the a7IV will be the way to go. But for general shooting the a6700 will absolutely keep up. For the price I'd take the a6700 and my only point of hesitation would be if you can find the lenses that you need in the APS-C range. Hope this helps!
@@andrewjclarke thank you! I’m going to preorder it. The price is too good to pass up .
I will wait, next model 6800!
What should be better on the next one?
@@NotSure0815...small body!
Giving Gerald Undone a run for his money
Haha little way off GOAT level 😂
Nah production quality was super high level, and the format was perfect. I would watch all of these if you posted more video
@@CVEXPLORES Haha I'll post more if you want to edit them for me 😅
Not really...
Nice and quick, but I thought you'd compare the images to FF images.
My complaint about a6700 is low EVF res. Bumping that up to 3.69m "dots" would have made me jump at this camera.
Thanks for the comment! There is a comparison with the full frame a7RV at 5:15, where you can take a look at the resolution differences between those sensors. But it's also using very different glass, so I'm not sure how valuable it is as a test 😆. It was more to just demonstrate that great landscape images are definitely possible! I'm holding off on any more in-depth/scientific comparisons (like dynamic range for example) until we can reliably process the raw files - but I'm super interested myself in how those tests pan out!
Yeah shame to see the same resolution in the EVF, although the brightness and the magnification is up (at least from the a7C). Probably not a huge improvement over the a6600, but it is deeeefinitely a lot better than the a7C (I really hate the a7C EVF 👎). Cheers!
@@andrewjclarke They`re both nice pictures, but is for me absolutely impossible to see any kind of resolution differences in a compressed youtube video.
I think you should realise that. Even in 4k it`s impossible especially since jpg is used.
The colors and dynamics of the A7RV, i find to be better but that can be subjective.
Did you get a chance to use focus bracketing?
I didn't do a specific test on the a6700, but I've used it a bunch on my a7RV!
finally a photo centric review. I’m wondering how much that BSI sensor really improves low light performance.
I’m still rocking my 8 year old a6000. this may finally the one I upgrade to
so weight and size matters. but with the A7C, weight and size are the same. even lenses are there to replace the Sigma quartett. 16, 23, 30, 56mm vs Samyang 24mm 1.8, sony 35 1.8, 55mm 1.8, 85mm 1.8 weights the same and has same footprint in size.
Cheers! Thanks for the comment. Yeah I'm super curious about the BSI sensor improvement as well - can't wait for full RAW support so I can get testing! I do know the FX30 is putting up very impressive numbers in S-log3, but I couldn't find any clear data on that sensor for stills just yet. Hopefully it will put up similar numbers to the Pixii A1571, which appears to be drawn up from the same base Sony sensor - time will tell!
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Is this a good camera for street photography.... is it better than Fuji Film X100 V
Yeah the a6700 will be great for street photography - very light/compact with excellent photo features and imaging quality. I can't say which is "better" for everyone, but for me, the a6700 has much better video features, AI powered subject detection autofocus and has the benefit of interchangeable lenses (and I love have flexible, specialist lenses). But the Fuji has an awesome retro aesthetic and is really discrete - so I can see why people love it for street photography! The 26mp BSI looks to be very, very similar (it may even originate from the same design) between the cameras - so I would expect image quality to be very similar for photos. Hope this helps!
Very hard to tell differences in a video like this especially when only out of the box jpg is used.
The resolution is just to low.
Also many people will use the cheap and not exactly good aps c line up of lenses with this body.
There`s where the hammer really hits hard.
You take a photo with the lens.
why are you shooting the 6700 at f11? crop applies to aperture as well, should have been like 6.7
Hi Matt, thanks for your comment. As I mentioned in the video, I was not trying to match settings, just to match the look of the images. Composition, exposure, colour and wave pattern is what I was looking at. I think the images look quite similar despite different settings and vastly different lenses! To me that's a nice indication that this sensor is probably going to keep up with the big boys and I'm very much looking forward to doing some more rigorous testing once there is proper RAW support for the a6700 👍
Bulb timer is half of what we wanted. Until the camera can meter beyond 30 seconds, you still either have to guess the exposure time, work it out in your head (not the best strategy when you've been out of bed for 30 minutes on a pre-dawn shoot) or, use an app. If you're using an app, might as well use the built-in timer that most long exposure apps have. Can't understand why cameras released in 2023 can't meter beyond 30 seconds ...
Yeah that's a good point. I'm might do some investigating as to why we're not able to meter beyond 30s - I agree, I don't see why this shouldn't be possible in 2023. Thanks for the great comment!
I do like the option of having the timer being in-camera rather than on an app though - It means I can wander off, talk to people, visit another camera, check my phone etc and not worry about forgetting to end the exposure... which I have done many times in the past 😂
@@andrewjclarke You'd think they could add it via firmware. I can meter for at least 30 minutes on my GFX100s (in manual and shutter priority) and it makes long exposures so easy. I'm not bagging Sony btw; I was a very early adopter having bought into the system with the A7r in 2013. Love my A7rV for action and wildlife.
@@stevemckenzie4731unfortunately, compared to Fuji, Sony never gets proper software updates
@@andrewjclarkeplease can you investigate this with Sony? It would be soooo much easier to simple select extended shutter durations beyond 30s in camera, especially for tracked astro shots, rather than requiring to connect an external interval meter and use BULB. (Currently shooting on a7iv)
Sony has been using back-illuminated sensors for a very long time, including in the 6xxx-th series.
Where can I get a jacket like that!
Not gonna lie, these jackets are awesome 😁 I'm not 100% sure, but I think these are just a Sony Australia thing. So if you happen to live in Aus, only way is to try and buddy-up to Sony staff or an ambassador - I don't think they sell them sorry!
No more Panorama mode on the 6700? I can’t believe it..
nice to many pixels on a7r5 i liked the old 42mp sensors better i would love a a7r3 with updated the af .
Just one thing to note, they don't even know you are making this video ? How, but they lent you the camera? Nice . anyway, nice content though. Hope they got to know about the video now. hehe
I thought this was a comparison between the two cameras...
No need to shoot at f11 on crop. F8 is good enough
Here’s the deal: the a6700 is waay cheaper than the A7 RV - for just about half the price.
I already own an a6600, so for me, that means get an a6700 - and use the difference for glass.
The A6700 is way less than half the price if you consider FF glass in the calculation..
They send you a camera! That’s the money that exchanged hands wink wink. None the less cool video.
I like Sony products mostly, but their company motto really is "a missed opportunity"
No thanx, the new Sony 6700 should have had the 40 megapixels BSI-CMOS sensor, then it could have been a Camera for Landscape Photography, Sony can still make a A7000 with 40Mp though ! I just keep on with my A7RIV and A7RIVA. If it got to be an APSC Camera, then the Fuji X-H2 or X-T5 are better choices.
I never ever do video...need a camera with all the tech thrown Into just photo...
I get that everybody and their sibling has a VLOG and a video-centric camera makes sense.
I don't fault Sony at all for that.
But what I don't understand is: Why doesn't Sony ALSO make an attempt to dethrone Canon crop-sensor for wildlife? Or at the very least, give us owners of the 200-600 G a crop sensor alternative for wildlife photography?
This ALMOST makes the cut if it weren't for the slow burst and (comparatively low) MP density.
It's frustrating in a real #FirstWorldProblem sort of way.
The best affordable body for wildlife? Canon
The best affordable lens for wildlife? Sony 200-600 G.
Now that Canon has opened up the RF mount to 3rd party dev, I wouldn't be surprised if I wind up buying a Canon body and adapter before I buy a Sony crop sensor body.
26mp, meh... So much for a photo centric camera. For a top of the line APSC surely it should be up there with Fuji's 40mp Apsc X-H2/X-T5. I'll stick with my A7r3.
Sony readout speed sucks either in the R series, or the default series, Canon EOS R5 still does better with a 2020 older camera, Lumix S5 II does better too 20 fps like the Sony a9 stacked sensor... why do they keep it at a higher price ? They are just lazy to release firmware update to use the full potential of the Bionz XR so they use slow components