Can you beat MGS2 without a Tranquilizer on the Hardest Difficulty?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2023
- A Challenge run to try and beat Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance on European Extreme for the first time without the tranquilizer
This acts as a Walk through for people to attempt this challenge, with commentary explaining my thought process.
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Chapters
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00:02:46 - Olga
00:11:00 - Guard Rush
00:45:47 - Fatman
01:02:52 - Harrier
01:16:54 - Vamp
01:38:13 - Tengus
01:45:53 - Rays
01:56:20 - Solidus
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Extra Music Used Throughout
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Next Generation Pt 2 - MGS2 Substance OST
Cant Say Goodby to Yesterday (Piano Arr.) - MGS2 Substance OST
REX's Lair - MGS1 OST
Venus - Metal Gear Ac!d OST
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Special Thanks
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/ @platonicguy
/ mgsrunners
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Yes. I did that like 20 years ago. It was not that hard.
Gratz
Did that too. Not on hardest difficulty however... was quite the opposite tbf. But I almost ONLY used letal firearms so same thing
Sources, need proof
@@silvesterharlinton2621savage 😭from 20 years ago u want evidence my uncle did I saw him play the whole game like this!!
20 years ago most of these if not all these glitches/exploits were unheard of so your full of shit
15:35 beating the tanker guard rush using only dick punches has got to be the highlight of this thing
I do love the dick punch strats, but fatman and Vamp are both also kinda wild
@@sirrando Seriously though this is really good, I've watched it twice in one day already. Definitely do more. My vote is for a dick punches only run.
honestly that would of made the cutscene of the guard in hiding more hilarious. I'd be scared too if a squad got taken out via dick punch.
@@SHADOMEGA7569"he keeps punching them in the DICK! Why? Why does he keep punching us in the DICK!?" Lol
The sped up part of him one-punching Fatman every time he runs out of I-frames is sending me tho…
It’s like spanking a chipmunk.
😂
The madman actually started all over again for two kills. Great run, can't wait to see your future work!
If something is worth doing, its worth doing beautifully
Pretty cool, for the first time the youtube algorithm gave me something fresh from an upcoming creator. Keep it up man, this was solid
It's happening all the time recently
Thank you! Glad to hear you enjoyed the run
Metal gear?
You could almost say it was Solid...Snake...
I'll see myself out.
Complete LIQUID
The nut punching will always boggle my mind
To be fair mate, if snake punched me in the snake I would be out for the count too
Redoing the entire run due to Kills caused by Game overs is more commitment than most people have in their marriages XD
Thank you! That was not a great feeling at the time I must admit
No joke, anyone else would have played that off. Not many people even know that that screen shows your stats throughout the game but he did it all over.
Now that I think about it, having Snake join you sniping is something of a precursor to the buddy system with Quiet
I hadnt thought about that! That is probably correct!
Reaching hard
why are you even here@@StevelyBruckShut
@@phantomshadowfax5431 Because I like MGS? Lol
Hey! I didn't realize that the same guy who did this also smashed MGS1 without guns. Great work on the videos my man, there's a whole lot of quality here and I hope that you become successful in your endeavors.
Thanks! I have plans to play a bunch of games wrong. I have also just dropped a video on Tenchu 3, next one is in the oven! (MGS3 will be happening, just not yet)
9:17 The guard outside the door was close enough to hear it.
European Extreme is any alert phase, not just being seen. Loud weapons too close to a guard will also trigger alert.
I'm sure that is the reason. I have never had an alert there in that area because you can get away with loud noises due to the engine noise in the background
is the grace period before an enemy radios for backup considered a failstate?
9:18 - the guard outside of the room heard the gunshot, it counts as being spotted.
Great play through, some really interesting tricks on display here. You're pretty good!
Ah ha! I can see him flash red. I didn't think he would be able to hear me with the door closed. But good eyes!
And thank you! I am working on other silly stealth game challenges aswell
@@sirrando No worries! Tried a run like this myself recently and did the "I'll just go along the wall as he turns the other way" and the nut shot trick thinking "No way this'll work..."
Followed shortly by "Muthafucker...." In amazement haha! I'll keep an eye out for future episodes for sure!
@@sirrandoyou'd be correct in thinking that, actually. However, this particular guards route takes him very close to the door and it opens whenever he passes it. I'm pretty sure this is the only instance in the game where that happens, and I'm pretty sure it was put in specifically to catch people taking out the semtex with an unsuppressed usp off guard.
It worked I guess, lol
That ray fight was a thing of beauty mate. Well done!
Instantly saw that as well 9:18 😢
Finally, the algorithm gave me a fantastic video to watch. This is a good video dude, I enjoyed it from start to finish.
Glad to hear! Next challenge run is incoming
This level of quality is what I aspire to do with my own videos. Fantastic job mate! You earned a Subscription from me
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. More on its way!
Absolutely pristine editing of this run, especially on the node interacts. Very smooth. And a smooth run, too! Looking forward to combing the rest of your content after the algorithm so lovingly presented this to me.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it!
I went back to watch this after seeing the MGS3 challenge. Starting the entire run over because the game decided to count the accidental kills that force "Game Over" anyways? That's some kind of dedication. You have my respect for certain, Sir. I'd love to see other challenge runs of older games like this; it's always fun to see how far you can push the limits of a game.
I am mostly sticking to Gen 5 and 6 games for now, because they tend to have rather malleable limits you can push. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Here's some tips for the Ray fight. What attack the center Ray goes for is completely determined by how close you are to it. At the closest range it'll try to stomp you, which you can easily dodge with the cartwheel. A bit further away and it'll do the water cutter, which is easy to dodge just by running parallel to the Ray. Further still and it will fire bullets which you dodge by moving forward or back. And at the max range it will fire the knee rockets, so you definitely want to stay out of the max range.
My strat is to trigger the water cutter attack, dodge and immediately shoot it in the face before the attack ends which counts as a critical hit because the mouth is open. This means you don't have to hit the knees first. If your quick you can even take pot shots at the Rays on the sides before the one on the platform has time to shoot another water cutter. When you kill the Ray that's on the platform you have plenty of time shoot the others in the knee and then the face once or twice before the next one jumps up. Also if you shoot them in the face as they're breathing out that blue mist, that also counts as a crit.
I actually really like this fight, even on the highest difficulties. It takes a lot of focus but once you get into a good rhythm, it's not that bad.
Yeah, for sure. if you havce it down on normal without getting hit, you can do EE. The difficulty is the length of time to concentrate and stay focussed. its an endurance test above all else.
Actually a fun fight though tbf
Recently found these runs and as a die hard MGS Fan, I'm loving them. Excited to see you attempt Snake Eater E-Extreme 👌
Thanks dude! I do have a couple of ideas for MGS3 specifically, I will move to a couple of other games, but MGS3 has to be a special run.
Whats the difference between Europena and American versions?
Realistically. Nothing, Europe got the Euro extreme as a bonus for it being released later there. But that is in basically all ports now
@@sirrando thanks for the info .
I love the commentary. You've got a voice for this. Keep up the good work and remember these days before you get big. Its not if. Just when!
Thank you ever so much! That's very nice to hear
Just coming out swinging with banger challenge content. Recently finished the metal gear series for the first time and noticed a severe lack of mgs challenge runs, so glad you are filling that niche. These challenge runs are also my favourite kind, where it shows a large amount if not the full gameplay instead of heavily edited short videos, even if that means lulls of commentary. If I could suggest one, perhaps a MGS3 run while using the actively worst camo at all times? Seems like a unique idea while also being an interesting challenge.
See. I have an issue there. I have a tenchu video out that does use a more highly edited format.
I think, I should do a "Truth Tapes" kinda thing where the full run is uploaded separately. Because some of the challenge runs I have seen. It feels pretty easy that it could have been "cheated"
Especially as some of the games I try get longer than the mgs trilogy that are really quite short
Oh yes, I would never expect a full length challenge run of basically anything but a souls game or a metal gear game. Fallout challenge runs come to mind of being over 10 hours. Or even persona ones, over 100 hours.
The mgs1 run I did was also the whole game, aside from a particularly long set of backtracking...
@@luckychlorine5848how do you feel about the series? (:
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i love the almost seamless cuts for codec calls! good editing keep up the good work
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Just found this channel, I love the ease at which you both play and relay what's happening. Excited to delve into the content 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Started on your mgs3 video and i must say these are very well done videos your presentation style is relaxing and easy to watch very thorough overall incredibly enjoyable.
You deserve way more views and subscribers!
Keep up the amazing work!!
-cheers
Thank you! I am glad you have been enjoying the videos!
I too started woth his MGS3 video I’m pumped for what he comes up with next.
Amazingly done video. (And skill too!)
I'm sure it's only a matter of time before your channel makes it big.
Awesome presentation, very professional and you have a great time and delivery in your voice.
Thank you for such an enjoyable video.
Cheers
That is very high praise! Thank you very much
This is fun. I didn't really think of the possibilities of a challenge run in MGS games.
There is another interesting challenge run I am recording at the moment!
Thanks a lot for your videos, I don't speak english well enough to express how much I enjoy them but I reallly love what you do
Im glad you are enjoying the videos I am making. I hope to keep making them into the future
Man there are tons of strats I never heard of. This is by far one of my favorite games, so I can't wait to try these out for myself. Keep up the great work, these videos are edited and narrated beautifully
Thank you! They are some of the best games, was a lotta fun to run
How do you not have more subs and views? Not dissing, more asking YT to sort it out; I was 15 when this came out, and watching these runs you do is amazing because you give love to 2 that's always been needed.
Ha, I am doing really well for myself, I am hoping that if I keep making good stuff, everything else will come
Yo that Olga fight might be the only time a video game really made it look like you were staring directly at a FLOODLIGHT. Great video!!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
I know I’m late to the party but I’m loving your vids. Really like the continues editing on your MGS3 vid.
Thank you! I hope you can see the evolution from this, my first video!
Recently found your channel. I really enjoy your commentary style where you will explain the strategy and then let the gameplay speak for itself. Your calm delivery method is really refreshing as I find some TH-camrs can be very over the top...
Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks! Glad your enjoying the stuff i am putting out!
Holy fucking fuck mate, I've watched the entire series of your MGS play throughs in the span of 24 hours. Amazing gameplay, great commentary, especially loved when you started over after finding out that you have two kills. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Glad your enjoying the videos
It had to be done, couldn't have a blemish on my record!
keep doing these bro very good to watch!
Next one is a MGS3 run.
While MGS1 has the best game story I have seen, MGS2 is indeed quite a game in many ways too. I remember doing it in BBE difficulty and stopped at the Solidus torture after the RAYs. The RAYs itself is of course a nightmare in its own, especially when playing it without the help of YT nearly 20 years back (and that is not to say that Fatman, Harrier and the first Vamp fight is easy). Also need to mention how Kojima foresee the internet development leading to people having more disagreement than mutual understanding, and how Raiden is talking to an AI... I need scissors, 61!
The original release, the solidus torture was MUCH harder than the newer HD Edition. I do think MGS2 is my favorite, its the one that I think of most? even though MGS1 was the game of my childhood. An incredible series of games regardless!
@@sirrandothere’s a trick where making the camera look at snake makes it easier to
@@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 yup. That's what I did here iirc
"ive decided this playthrough im not into watersports" got me 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks! glad you had a giggle!
Subscribed just because of how I found this entertaining and relaxing to watch while on a train great content
Thank you!
I’m really glad your other Metal Gear vid appeared in my recommendations.
Really enjoying what you’re doing, keep up the good work mate 😊
Thank you! I am still trying to improve with each video
@@sirrando subscribed and looking forward to what you get up to in the future :)
I saw your MGS3 run first and had to check this one out as well. Loving these so far. Keep up the great work man.
Thank you! Glad you are enjoying them!
Keep up the good work Man U just got a new sub love metal gear
Thank you! Can't go wrong with Metal Gear, Godlike games
Oh wow!! I cried when you actually when back and restarted it again cause those 2 kills. Lol. You are the GOAT!!! Keep it up!!
Thank you! It means a lot. Yes I had to go back, I wouldnt have been happy with the run otherwise!
Have watched and loved both of your metal gear videos! Your editing is very smooth and seamless. Hope you get many more views sir!
Why thank you! Currently working on other videos as we speak!
Loving these videos, you've put an insane amount of effort into these. Hope they bring you great success. Big respect 😄👊👊
Thanks! I am glad you are enjoying the videos I have been putting out!
My man, don't know about your previous content before MGS but these two challenge runs have been very entertaining. Got a sub from me, and hope you can keep going.
Thank you! There is another one in the works at the moment, I am hoping to release before the weekend
Will you please do all the MGS games? These little challenges are entertaining. Surprisingly your commentary makes it better. I usually dislike commentary. You, sir, have found the formula for a lot of views: choosing a great game with a huge cult following along with making it fresh with difficult challenges on top of it all while making it a good walkthrough/let's play. KEEP IT UP
Thank you. I am glad you enjoyed it. I do plan to do more of the mgs games in the future, I am working on a differentbgame atm, but will do mgs3 at some point.
Mgs4 might be tricky to do, but I will investigate
This is the second video of yours I've watched, and I'm hooked! Phenomenal content and fantastic commentary! I'm looking forward to future videos!
Thanks! im glad you enjoyed it!
@Sir Rando If you're open to suggestions for games, look into anything in the Deus Ex or Assassin's Creed series. Plenty of opportunities for unconventional playthroughs.
@@blaine1987 Deus Ex is a great shout, Im most familiar with Human revolution.
Assassins creed is a weird one. I love a lot of the old games (1 up to about black flag are amazing, some of the later ones are pretty good and a bunch of stinkers later on)
But I was struggling to find some way to change them up.
I'm always open to suggestions!
I know that Odyssey can be completed without directly killing anyone. Maybe a thought?
@@blaine1987 Huh, that sounds interesting. Might hold onto that for the back burner. Only issue with that specifically is that Odyssey is around 45hrs to complete casually. at the moment thats a bit too much of a time commitment to getting everything done.
Thats one of the reasons why i have been sticking to the 5th and 6th generation of games.
But i will stretch out past that at some point
This and your mgs3 run made the night shift a breeze. Loving this channel already, can’t wait to see some more mgs games and challenges on here!
I'm always working on the next one! Glad you had a giggle
Please continue making more of these videos man, freaking love these
Thank you, its good to hear you are enjoying them!
Great videos man love the format.
Glad you like them!
One of my new fav channels, keep up the good work
Thanks! Glad your enjoying it!
Good work, definitely inspiring me to post my metal gear content so thank you
Thank you! Looking forward to seeing it
You really got mad skills, the best MGS2 play I've seen on you tube by far!
You earnd yourself a sub and a like sir!
It only looks that good because of all the failure you don't see! But thank you, glad you enjoyed it
Did you straight up not upload for two years than upload a banger
Thank you! And I am glad you think so!
Yiiiikes that restart sooooo far is was brutal, good on you for sticking to your goal though! Didn't know the box can hide you from Ciphers and that stuff with the Fission Mailed screen, really really cool! Great video!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. And yeah, that restart was brutal. I had to walk away and leave it for 15 minutes before I came back to it
54:29
That "hmm?" followed by the gun shot was really interesting, never seen that before!
I dig your playthroughs man. They're pretty cool.
Thank you, that's great to hear
Great content, great work. Subscribed!
Thank you! It means a lot
Great video man. Really love the content. I only wish the MGS3 video was as long. Keep up the good work. Subscribed.
Much appreciated!
Impressive stuff here, along with everyone else, I’ve completed this game a number of times over the years. I think it’s about time for another play through soon lol. Thanks for all the tips!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome vid man. U got a new subscriber because of this vid. Keep the vids comin. Your pretty good.
Thanks! I appreciate it. Glad you had fun
brilliant job mate, keep at it!
That's the plan! Got some more in the pipeline as we speak
Never thought I'd be watching Clive Owen do mgs2 challenges. 10/10 content
Clive opens is far more handsome than me, I will take it!
You sir, are an absolute mad lad.
I try my best
Never in a million playthrough of MGS2 would I ever think to just hide behind the box and punch guard in the groin. I wasted so many rations and ammo shooting them XD
That is definitely one of the kookier strats in the run!
*_Did you know?_*
-The commandant has a daughter.
Damn, i've been playing MGS2 for about 15 years now, had no idea you could destroy the vents in the president nikita section, you really never stop learning things about MGS
It's crazy how many small interactions and little bits of depth are in these games isn't it
The ridiculous ray fight at the end is kinda why I haven’t trie harder difficulties than normal. Shit just keeps going 😂
Its definitely a gruelling fight!
This is awesome! On the ps2, many moons ago, my run ended after the Rays and just before the end fight with Solidus. I have health issues that affect the mobility in my hands and it was just not possible for me to beat the torture scene 😭 but I absolutely love your run through, it reminded me of a different time and how much I loved speedrunning this game, which really made me smile, thank you! 😊
I also really like the explanations you give and how you talk through everything, I'd never seen that strategy in the Fatman fight before! It was really amusing! 😂😊
They made the torture scene easier on the HD collection because it was so difficult on the original. So you might be able to have some better luck with that!
Also, iirc there isn't any turbo protection like MGS1, so that might be an option for you.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Wow that sediment pool run looked like you took a long time to figure it out! Well done, thanks for the memories
It did, was a right pain to do. glad you enjoyed the video!
Nice to see a new creator. Earned a sub for excellent content.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video!
I love watching you play these because when I tried European extreme I thought it was impossible. I couldn't even enjoy the game with it being so difficult
Same. First time I tried Euro Extreme I thought it was insurmountable. But once you have figured out how it kinda works... its not too bad.
I found I was guessing how the game worked rather than how it actually worked, making it much harder
love the video hope there’s a mgs4 video coming!
There will be at some point. But not for a while
I like that this showed me several things I never knew about the game. Like the stack of magazines on the locker, or that you can break the grates with the nakita launcher.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Your skill at the game is undeniable, but 3 minutes into your 2 hour video and you answer your question. Would love to see you take on a more achievable challenge.
I agree that was a bit of an unfortunate thing in this game.
In regards to more doable, you should see my other videos
Cool video and nicely done. Just subbed
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
I want to say while shooting out the bomb sensors on the shell 1-2 connecting bridge, you can use a second controller to move the flag to other side of the flag pole?
Great video, I'm about half way through and enjoying it. I adore the MGS series so I'll be checking out more of your stuff down the line 👍
you can WHAT!? Thats amazing, I didnt know that. Glad you had fun!
Ooo another one an I see the first game as well I'm a sucker for an mgs run good work with these so far
you absolute mad-lad. I wouldn't have had the strength to do it all again.
If ots worth doing, it's worth doing properly
"Alright that's done. Unfortunately the president has died..." 😂
Your amazing m8 being a fan of metal gear solid since the beginning I absolutely these games
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!
1:30:30(ish) - the fact that they only recorded One scream for Emma is hilarious
its a great sound clip ngl
liked and subbed bro! loved the vid!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
*Fires a missile into the room
*Cuts to Raiden running back out
“Unfortunately the President has been murdered”
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5:55 the shot before was completely while blinded by the light. Blind Elephant Tranq shot
Just started a run of this on substance pc version, snake tails and vr missions still hold up
Snake Tales are ace! I just wish they had more budget, seeing some of the cutscenes with those sttory lines would have been great!
Incredible stuff, I wouldn't count Emma and the president as kills but it's even more impressive that you did and replayed the whole thing just for a zero at the end of the run
It just wouldn't sit right with me if it had a number. I haven't proved I can do it at that point. Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
This just got recommended for me. Hilarious after that chat we had 😂
I definitely think I have gotten better lol
When I played this I always thought I was the ultimate stealth badass. Looking back it’s kind of funny how low enemy sight is, and how you can fully sprint behind enemies and they don’t notice lol
You were the ultimate stealth badass. I believe
Please tell me you are going to do challenge runs for all the MGS games. These are awesome!
You could also do other games like splinter cell.
I have a couple of super cool runs planned. I have one lined up for MGS3 that is kinda wild. I am currently editing a stealth game challenge run from a different franchise.
I would like to do splinter cell, not sure what restrictions I could add though, they are very linear and don't have the scope of tools that MGS has, but I would love to do one
19:35
not quite good enough "yet" to play without.
love it
Got to be honest havent I
this game was personally my hardest game to get a big boss rank on
Congrats! The save restrictions can make it very nerve wracking for sure
Skipping the "Raven?!" cutscene at 7:25 impresses me, I couldn't notice any cut or stutter and I'm certain it was a forced cutscene since it demonstrates the power of a lighting engine on PS2
Yeah, that's a cut. I cut out everything like that
No, I tell a lie, it isn't. It o ly shows if you head into that area
9:17 maybe try putting the guard you knocked out in the locker, it's been a while since I played mgs2 but either I assume the gun woke up the guard or just the guard outside heard you.
I think nite was probably the outside guard and I wasn't fast enough. I'm not sure about putting him in the locker. Would have to check
The fortune and cardboard box skit was funny lol
Actually the best way to deal with her aswell imo 😅
Everybody probably knows it, but second phase of Solidus is so much easier if you just stand in a corner (the one where you can't fall off the edges). You never catch on fire, and blocking attacks becomes trivial, no matter the difficulty setting.
Huh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip!
This was masterful
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great job! Did you disable all the codecs and cinematics phases ? How you do that ? Only montage ?
I just edited them out is all
9:16 if you look at the radar as you fire, the guard outside the room was close enough to hear the gunshot because his field of view went to red (at least that's what I think triggered the game over) as gunfire that is heard triggers an alert immediately
I think you are likely right that he is the culprit, its probably to do with how sound propagation works in the game as the engine room mostly drowns out unsilenced gunfire normally, maybe its because i was in the quieter bit
This video gives me hope that i can tackle this too (( currently on hard mode getting all the tags i can through each difficulty
You got this!
@@sirrando Thank you! That really means a lot great content btw very relaxing tbh
I don't know what you're saying, you're incredible at this game!
Ah ha. Sorry about that, my accent can be a little tricky for people to understand, or was it the audio mixing you struggled with?
I Never get tired of this Game never.
It's a banger for sure
Well done sir
Thank you, much appreciated
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Great playthrough. Hopefully Snake washed his hands after touching all those guards balls lol