Huawei's Pura-70 is nearly "a symbol of self-sufficiency": teardown reveals more Chinese-built parts
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- An expert teardown of Huawei's Pura-70 reveals even more key components built by Mainland China suppliers.
It revealed big strides in flash memory, provided by Huawei's in-house unit, HiSilicon. The wafer design is novel, and also suggests a new, previously unknown domestic supplier.
Other Chinese-sourced parts include audio amplifier and LED flash driver. HiSilicon also contributed the Wifi and Bluetooth systems, and the power management chips.
Resources and links:
Pura 70 Pro teardown reveals even more China-made parts
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Reuters, What is in Huawei's new Pura 70 smartphones?
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All internals and technical specifications for Pura 70
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Here in the USA, I'm starting to feel like a citizen of the USSR...looking in envy at smartphones and inexpensive EV cars I am not ALLOWED to buy. Soon USA will have nothing but Yugos and Trabants.
I had a quick look online for phones in AU and that led me to the reason they are banned is the 5g towers and huawei or the chines govt being able to turn off access to a water pump etc etc was an unacceptable risk.
as long as gender rest rooms are built, we all will be happy and pee a lot either sit down or stand up.
Very soon US will ban lot stiffs made in China like in Walmart most products then Amerikkka would be like Phillipine N Korea and Cuba even their lot better than USA now already. How embarrassed to real big Amerikkkan.
@@danielli9167 Did you know the amount of salt you need to get 1500mg of sodium is 2/3rds of a teaspoon of salt. I find I don't pee overnight anymore. This one surprised me, iodine in salt raise's IQ, it costs $1.36 per tonne of salt and 2 billion people don't have access to it.
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There's a perfectly good explanation why Huawei continues to use some foreign parts even though there are Chinese alternatives. If you use Chinese products just because they are Chinese, it will make the Chinese suppliers complacent and stop improving and innovating. This is also why China does not ban Apple and Tesla, even though America bans Huawei and Chinese electric cars. This is something American policy makers cannot grasp, and the result is that Apple, and Tesla to a lesser extent, have become mediocre companies unable to produce competitive products.
Exactly, competition force company to get better.
China does this to foster 'trade' China also has rice pasta wine etc but it still trades those goods not because China needs them, but it's apart of the trade and dialogue and exchange
At some point, Chinese companies will be forced to use entirely Chinese components because American sanctions will create too much risk for anything else.
and so tesla FSD.
Another benefit is to force the US government to go after foreign companies that supply Huawei, so that the US government would lose the hearts and minds of everyone, including companies of their own country…?
What does not break us, just makes us stronger. We will be stronger.
Congratulations China! Keep up the good work providing humanity with cheap and high quality goods!
A nation that failed to fail and keep growing from strength to strength, making Yankees very jealous and angry.
I dont think most yankees are jealous or angry. Rather, certain American companies and govt are angry.
Their exceptionalism and arrogance sicken most nations, no?
@@chongdi6140 That's not on the American people... It pays to distinguish between the citizens and the ruling class. They're not the same thing.
@@Corteum When the citizens deliberately choose their ruling class and support their country, they're the same thing.
@@ZweiZwolf Not really. It's like arguing "If you got manipulated by advanced psychological and social engineer techniques to make the wrong choices that led to disaster... then that's on you for falling for those tricks"
Weldone China.
Huawei has done an excellent job in surviving the brutal and unfair sanctions and is thriving and surpassing the top one iPhone in the market. I love Huawei’s spirit and attitude… no complaints but keeps working hard and improving. Bravo 👏 ❤Long live Huawei 💪
Your channel needs o grow. There is no one putting so much content in short videos on these topics. I share your channel with anyone I can.
Cheers from Brazil
This channel is growing! I discovered him about 3 weeks ago, he was at 14K I've been keeping my eye on him for some reason lol 😂😂😂
Me, too. Wonderful channel.
One can tell the host of this channel is a patriotic US citizen and this channel appears to promote cooperation between states to benefit all humans from all states, instead of hindering others from progressing with practices like sanctions or banning others from using SWIFT.
Bro,by far the best narrator on planet Earth.1 million subscribers will do justice to this channel.
Huawei founder, Ren has character greatness & wisdom & sacrifice. Huawei staff owns the firm. The distribution of shares reflect greatness & unity. No Big Tech firm has come close.
Huawei's founder CEO reported to have only 0.7 percent (0.7%) of company shareholding. Despite being heavily sanctioned (cannot even buy hard disks from Seagate) and losing business, they did not layoff staff. Continued to use company cash reserves to do R&D and here we are today with Pura 70 phone.
Meanwhile, Google leadership has the habit of creating tons of new products (even duplicates products) & shutting them down after a short while, losing them invested resources & consumer trust.
Most likely the reason why they still use some foreign components even if they have domestic versions it's they're maybe left over stockpiled parts or also as a message to the foreign suppliers. We are using your parts today but if you wanna play the sanction game you're gonna lose a good customer fast.
According to an interview with CEO Mr. Ren , Huawei was agreed to sell to Motorola in 2003 because Mr. Ren realized Huawei will be facing serious competition with American companies in near future, and Huawei can hardly survive. every Huawei employee were celebrating the sales deal with Motorolla , however, in 2004, Motor changed CEO and refused this purchase deal on Huawei. ..and Huawei CEO went back and held a meeting, to discuss the future, he said, "we need a backup plan if we kept growing will soon face US techno boycut." Since then, Huawei tried to get everything built by themselves or at least know how to replace some components in case the foreign companies won't supply to Huawei.
from 2001 to 2002, CEO Ren was negotiating with IBM to sell itself. IBM was Huawei 's customer also a supplier, IBM sent people to negotiate, but did not reach a deal.
Huawei is saying the US can stick its great American ingenuity where the sun don't shine.
I live in Ireland and the Bank of Ireland app on my Huawei phone will not be supported due to US sanctions. Either get a new non Chinese phone or revert to old school banking. I'm keeping my phone.
Love the Oirish! Love the feisty duo of Mickey Wallace and Clare Daly spitting facts! Love the way Ireland is standing apart from the useless UK and the EU!!!
Love the Oirish! You guys are chill with a sense of humour! You guys also standing up and displaying a backbone!! Standing apart from the useless UK and spineless EU!!! Love your feisty duo of Mickey Wallace and Clare Daly!!! Ireland standing up for what's right! And on the right side of history!!!
U da man, or gal!
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Me too👍👍
Congrats world!!!!!!, ingenuity is alive everywhere
Thanks for the updates from Australia 🇦🇺
I had a quick look online for phones in AU and that led me to the reason they are banned is the 5g towers and huawei or the chines govt being able to turn off access to a water pump etc etc was an unacceptable risk.
I was only saying to someone last year who said they were a decade away and I said then they were much further along with chip size.. With 5g supposed to be such a big part of society I can see why a foreign country having control of it all being a bad thing, shame though
@@antonyjh1234you have bought into the US BS 😂
@@chongdi6140 You said the same thing twice. I haven't bought anything, that's the point, I can't.
Australia? Where is that?
Great job, Huawei. Be good, everyone.
Love these short informative clips. Many thanks
Hauwei well done keep it up
I been watching you for awhile I truly enjoy it because you put things in a honestly and simple manner keep up your great work and energy truly appreciate it 👍🏼🤙🏻
On the contrary, if you did a teardown of a device from an American brand, you would probably find the a lot of Chinese parts in it.
As usual. Informative and amazingly concise and straight to the point. Love your presentation.
what do you call a country which repeat the same thing over and over again expecting a different result each time?
Fool, idiot, or senile. lol
And there is not a single component in Pura 70 that comes from the Philipine. The Filipinos fully complied with US sanctions against Huawei. Be good. 🎉🎉👍👍💪💪
lol
& from India too, which keep claiming as world's number one of this and that, India keep living in Bolywood's styles. LoL
@@lv9657 Australia also. Maintaining the US sanctions like a loyal dog. Meanwhile the Australian internet is mongst the slowest in the world. NBN, AUKUS. LOL
Not sure if that was meant as a joke but I did not know the Philippines has a tech industry that it could supply anything to the world.
I know hindia does not has a technology industry despite being the globe's sole superpower. I know for sure that they have a GPS replacement that works only in Hindia and the Hindian TH-cam warriors would not stop bragging about it.
@@Freedom_from_impi supposed that is some sort of sarcasm because PH can't even secure their basic necessity such as rice. PH is the largest rice importer in SEA, if they can't even grew their own crop, it's must be funny to think PH is capable of producing tech components.
There is one part they probably good at, exporting mistress and housemaid.
Love to be a fly on the wall at a commerce dept meeting with Gina Romondo! The look on her face would be worth at least a few bitcoins LOL
She is a sweet girl. Send tissues
Need her on some more Huawei advertisement posters 😁
meanwhile raimondo is jumping up and down, sanctions, sanctions....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gina, Gina, Gina...I bet she's a Huawei deep cover agent lol.
Are you calling your mother? Vir Gina
News says Huawei just released its 128 TB ssd
Thank you for the ALWAYS valuable update and situ wrap!!
I would like to point out:
The SOC in pura 70 is clocked slower than the SOC in mate 60 but the pura 70 is faster than mate 60. Which means:
1. There would be a variant of pura 70 chip that even faster that Huawei haven't release yet. Probably for Huawei Mate X?
2. The architecture of the new chip or maybe the nm of the new chip is way better than the one used in mate 60
Appreciate the content ❤❤
I absolutely love the Huawei phone. I had them before, they are fast, sufficient and beautiful
My mobile phone has a virtual machine installed so that I can use Google framework applications. I use a dedicated private network to bypass GFW censorship to access this overseas information, so I can access all Internet information in China and overseas. These routine operations are very important for a Chinese
It's normal for people, but it's difficult for foreigners.
My mobile phone is also from Huawei
The US customers will be forced to buy second rate cars, phones, drones, other hitech gadgets but with higher prices.
They already do with rubber tires (tyres) for their vehicles costing 3 to 4 times as much due to trade tariffs against foreign imports from Europe, South Korea, Malaysia, China, Indonesia and Japan, leaving U.S. Americans with only their good old "Goodyear" brand - but hey - what does it matter paying 3 to 4 times more when it gets to keep Americans employed?
If Huawei can manage to make Mate 60 and Pura 70, it should not have problems making tablets and laptops. The most recent US sanction to ban the sale of Intel and Qualcomm laptop chips to Huawei should not have any effect on Huawei.
This channel is great.
I'm so impressed with Chinese phones. I'm currently using a Vivo X100 Pro purely for photo taking and it's more or less replaced my 1in sensor Lumix. The sensor + AI in the Vivo beats my iPhone 15 Pro to a pulp yet costs half the price. The Pura is damn good considering the sanctions in place. I've seen some comparisons, not quite as clear and sharp on the tele end compared to the Vivo but it has better shake reduction and faster shutter. But overall still fantastic. I think the next Huawei model will likely take it to top spot again.
They are weeping in Washington
The eagle has fallen
Jesus wept.
The dragon stirs while under attack. Sons of Great Wall and Grand Canal builders rising to the challenge.
I think you lost them with the Grand Canal. The majority of Americans think that's in Panama, while the Europeans think the Grand Canal is in Venice.
@@minervasheryl4748....or midlands UK.😂
But they arent under attack.
One can tell the host of this channel is a patriotic US citizen and this channel appears to promote cooperation between industries and states to benefit all humans from all states, instead of hindering others from progressing with practices like sanctions or banning others from using SWIFT.
And I stated somewhere in comments under this video -- After all anything made or invented by humans can be reproduced or re-invented by other humans. The fact that Leibnitz and Newton discovered/invented calculus at about the same time is a proof of that.
Calculas existed...waiting to be contemplated and thought upon....the combination was key to opening😂
@@othmanmajid6380calculus, like all math, is just a tool humans made to understand the world around them better.
Yey! Now they can start to produce laptops that use Chinese's processors... Can't wait to get my hands on those
Poor Dell & HP. I hope non-Chinese branded laptops will still be able to compete on being a great value when that day comes.
Keep your eye out on Lenovo laptops and desktops ......
China ❤
Like Huawei Mate 60, Raimondo is also promoting the Pura-70. . . .
Congratulations to China! The next question; Can China produce GPUs which can rival Nvidia? Nvidia's newly announced Blackwell architecture seems to be used for high quality CG simulation in industries such as medicine
no problem at all . as long as the GPU is not god make. china can make space ship , to make GPU is matter of time.
They already did with Biren GPUs, but anxious to see the ones with their domestic manufactured chips
Almost certainly China can but probably won't be that soon. They will catch up and most likely even surpass the US sometime in the near future.
Here in South Africa china deployed fibre throughout the country,we all now have Huawei WiFi all over ✌️
I heard that the next version of harmony os will boost the performance of the chip, is that true?
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Cant wait to see more & more great & very advanced Chinese products around the globe: the more the better.
I sold my Tesla 3 for Nio es8, just saying,i have cero regrets doing that, if you also love comfort, you go for Chinese EV car.
Hello Kevin,
Thanks for your insights and analysis.
Is it possible to live confortably in China without Madarin language or else?
Please gimme your thoughts on that.
Thanks
Nessim
Is it "comfortable" for a totally non-English speaking foreigner from say, the Congo, to live in New York City without being able to speak or understand a word of English?
It will certainly help if one is to know a few words of mandarin while in China - but it also depends upon WHERE in China. If you are in the Tier 1 cities like Beijing and Shanghai and living close to the universities and colleges, there are a number of young Chinese who are multi-lingual including English and you can get by. A number of public transport places have multi-languages as well, including English - to assist tourists and foreign visitors. Going out into the rural areas will be a different matter but this is similar to any other country including the U.S. and Australia.
You can also make use of Google language translation apps in your smartphone or get an inexpensive language translators that will speak the words for you in mandarin that the locals can understand.
Above all, one has to have the following - (a) an open mind, (b) a willingness to learn, (c) friendliness to all, (d) guts.
@@user-sf1nq9uj7p thanks for the reply. From the first part of your answer I can understand that my question may seems a bit odd but let me explain why ...
I live in Brussels Belgium for years and I do use and understand their languages French / Dutch.
This being said I met so many people living here for decades but only speaking English... They do great and never felt the need to learn local languages. I thought it could maybe be the same in some other parts of the world including China's big cities.
I do thank you for your insight.
@@nessim.liamani No problems. We have here in Australia, a multi-cultural country, many enclaves of specific people who came here as refugees. Despite several charitable organizations running free "ESL" - English as a Second Language - courses, many of those migrants simply refuses to join in to learn even the most basic of survival English and prefer to stick inside their own "ghettoes". A similar thing happened in the U.S. too - during the wave of migrants from Italy and Greece. In fact, some of the older generation of migrants or refugees, despite being in the country for 20 - 30 - 40 years, still don't know a word of the local language except maybe, "Yes" and "No". The thing is, they survived.
A similar situation exists in parts of China.
The more developed and modernized cities will have a larger number of younger people being multi-lingual with English being the second language of choice as this is being taught in schools and universities as a means to the modern world of business, science and technology. The older generation, unless you meet someone from the really old years when the country was over-run by Western foreigners, will most likely, not be able to converse in English.
Up in places like Harbin in Northern China close to the Russian border, you may come across more people able to speak Russia while down in Tsingtao, a former German-held concession, you may come across some German speaking locals.
China is a very diverse country as you can imagine. The British were of greater influence in cities like Shanghai, Beijing (due to the former diplomats and their families there back in the 1800s) and of course, Hong Kong. If you went to say, Macau, Spanish and Portuguese would probably be more understood there with a smattering of English.
There is a young Australian lady by the name of Amy Lyons with a You Tube site called, "Blondie in China". She is very fluent in Chinese Mandarin ("putonghua" - the common language) and has an extremely open mind to all things weird and unusual. She demonstrates how someone can experience a wonderful life in China (she doesn't live there as a permanent but travels there very often from Sydney, Australia). if they are to know just a few words of Chinese. The locals are very eager to help foreigners get around because they understand the situation of a stranger whom they view as a "guest" to their country.
So, going back to your original question, "Is it comfortable" to live in China if you don't know the language?" the answer is obvious - it all depends upon each individual, how open minded they are, how acceptable they are of things they have never encountered before and may even seem to be disgusting and how friendly they are to the locals. There is an African American in China who also features a You Tube video of his travels and experiences. He knows basically nothing of the Chinese language except a few words of common greeting like "how are you" ("nee how mar"), "see you again" ("joy keen") and "thank you" ("tseah-tseah"). However, he has joined in with the locals dances in the streets, pointed at pictures of what he wants to eat (their menus are full of photos of the meals), etc (there are western restaurants in the main cities - KFC, Burger King, McDonalds, Pizza Hit, etc - you won't starve, that's for sure) and due to his outgoing nature, he is accepted everywhere he goes (see "Willene Business & Lifestyle").
By the way, I am not conversant in Chinese at all. I have visited places like Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Shanghai in the past even before China is as developed as it is today and managed to get by back 35 years ago. Both Taipei (Taiwan) and Shanghai were eye openers while Hong Kong is, well, a former British enclave (although a large number of local Chines don;'t speak English or very well at all while local Cantonese dialect is more common).
How comfortable anyone is in any place on this planet is entirely up to that person in the final analysis. You can be in your own country and not be comfortable and there are many in this same boat. Anyway, enough philosophizing. I wish you the very best in all your endeavors and may you find excitement and enchantment everywhere you go.
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What about camera sensor, is it still using Sony?
basic model Pura, yes, most likely left over stock. Pro and Ultra, no, use Chinese.
@@dice138 thanks
US forget their greatest ‘enemy’ : Chinese nationalism 😂
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you block all the way make the tiger to the no way out
PLS COMMENT ON HUAWEI'S LITHOGRAPHY AND CHINA'S CHIP FUTURE. TH-cam tells me Huawei are already producing the all-important 5nm lithography machine, and will start producing a 3nm by EOY. My prediction was/remains when the US started trying to restrict China chips, that China chips will be equal to the US and Taiwan in 3/4 years and ahead and starting to dominate the world market by 2030 - when the chips will really hit the fan. If the US loses on chips, it arguably loses period. And all because the US forced China to self-sufficiency. If I were there in their position dealing with the crazy geriatric leaders of a geriatric empire, I'd go hell for leather for chip sufficiency too - it's a matter of survival. And soon it will be a matter of US survival. Pls present your opinion on the future chip prospects here.
Thanks but unsure you got I am talking about the machine that makes the chips aka ASML
I heard about that Huawei has built a huge research center in Shanghai to build its own lithography machine. They are working hard on it 24x7. They are currently working with other Chinese companies, universities and research institutes.
Yes well I heard they are already producing a lithography machine as I said. But needs more corroboration. I'd bet on them whatever. US lawmakers too dumb to realise they are dealing with continuously creative people and changing playing field
US is getting 3nm and 2nm chip plants in USA by spending US$6 billion subsidy each on TSMC and Samsung. A VERY productive US$12 billion spent to get to leading edge of semicon manufacturing back in USA.
You know you are in the loosing team when you analyze the competitor in panic trying to find something against the rules.
Nezi west is declining❤❤
Hi Kevin, I really like your channel. Even though you're an American, you're brutally honest about your place of birth.
Waiting for the moment Apple uses 3nm (and beyond) and Huawei can’t follow….
Does america understand d meaning of d words Huawei...?
does china understand the kindness of western investors?
@@trahtibidahtibidah lol kindness
@@trahtibidahtibidahsave me the BS about western investors, profits are their end game, not humanity. If you believe otherwise, you are being misled.
@@dons6556 english
Trump and Biden are hero to Huawei employee. They make Huawei Great and Greater for ever😂😂
川建國 and 拜振華, should give them Chinese citizenships🤣🤣🤣
I feel like I’m watching an infomercial.
Vivo x fold 3 pro, is testament to China application of teach...it wint be long and All phones , laptops, cars will be 100% china chips ..
China is self sufficiency oh boy US said our greedy is over
Naa power consumption are too high, but most people dont need that fast a phone and that is china's advantage.
It is a cultural tradition of China to be operating self-sufficiently because the Mongol always block the Silk Road for China to depend on foreign trade.
Now imagine if apple would be sanctioned like Huawei.
Apple will turn into a boutique selling real apples in less than a year.
We are giving China more and more motivations to innovate and to create. That’s absolutely the worst strategy to compete.
US Moto, 'can't complete, cheat'
Third quarter of this year, Huawei will bring its new 5nm Kirin 9100 chipset with Mate 70 series, which is no doubt it's 100% manufactured within China.
The chip war and tech war is over. China won comprehensively by 3rd quarter this year.
Your channel was restricted because it didn't say anything bad about China
US thought their sanctions will work forever against all the bears in the forest 😅 oh boy, they were so wrong
america has been sanctioning iran from the time of iranian revolution , that is from long long
time .
How much for your soul?
*"CHINA OBSERVER"* just reviewed this very same Phone.
They claim the phone is laggy and a terrible experience.
One of you guys is PROPOGANDA?
or...
Perhaps *BOTH* are true?
It's a Chinese phone...
But it's crappy.
😳😳
The United States should probably look at its problems from within since there are nothing but problems here.
It's already too late and your politicians keep screwing things up even more. All the sanctions will make more countries to run away from the US. When the time comes, it will be very major and have a very major negative impact to the US itself. Can't believe a country that keeps chasing countries and trade away. Total disaster indeed.
7 nm like iphone 11 bravo....now we have iphone 15....
You use junk like iphone
Huawei 7nm 5.5G transmission > Apple 3nm SMS satellite🤣🤣🤣
Yeah and your debts and expenses keep on piling. Soon, you can't even afford iPhone 6. People who kept borrowing is doomed to fail sooner or later and then you will need to beg China and the whole world to buy from you which by then China will say NO. We already have our own much cheaper, better and more affordable chips and technology. Go and build yourself and sell it at 5-10 times more expensive and see wants to buy it. 😂😂😂
That is how the end usually begins for those who keep bragging and boasting without knowing the true reality.
That's why you people get into more HUGE debts and spend all your money to get something that is not even necessary while we save more money to do more things without worrying whether we can pay our next bill. Who wins now? 😂😂😂
Who really cares about 1-2 seconds or even a few seconds delay for doing some things or features that does not even bring any real profits or benefits but just for show and bragging to friends. For what? 😂😂😂😂
Love chinaaaaaaaaaa
Yeah, using old ass chips. Good luck making chips without USA aoftware and Netherlands lithograph machines. China is about 80 years behind us in math.
Jai Hind. With the backing of 5Eyes, we Indians can BBBW like 100% Made in India APPLE
west was toooo kind investing in china, in this point west from beginning had to just keep china alive....only
Kind? I think your parents are too kind to let you born..
in the past, west exploits cheap labour in China.
But China is smart, they allowed it to happen with one condition : technology transfer.
at that time, west severely underestimated China, they thought what could China do anyway?
but when west realized China can actually do something, they cry foul, claiming China steal technology.
too kind?
🙄🙄
Without profit incentives, no western countries would have put their money in China's banks. Also, at the start, most western equipment or machineries that were installed in Chinese factories were due to be scrapped in their own countries soon. They were producing products that belonged to much older generations.
what the point of this video man?
To inflict pain to ask soh like you.
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Kevin is promoting cooperation between industries and states, instead of hindering others from progressing, for after all anything made by humans can be reproduced or re-invented by other people. The fact that Leibnitz and Newton discovered/invented calculus at about the same time is a proof of that.
It is just cheap Chinese trash. Who bloody cares? I am a Samsung user.
Who bloody cares what you think or what phone you use!
More good news !
Technological Engineering Scientific self sufficent is the key to prevent sanction sobotaging by the west.