I like the new judging system. Just one note: Decibels aren't on an exponential scale. its a logarithmic scale. Every 3db is a doubling of sound intensity. but every 10db is a doubling of "apparent loudness" to the human ear. So if a bow is 10db quieter than another, it is 50% as loud. so theoretically, If a bow is shooting at say 71db, and another bow is shooting at 70db, the bow that shoots at 70db is roughly 5% quieter to the human ear. I would say that is actually a significant difference, especially is one bow is shooting 2-3 decibels quieter than the competition. Anyways, Keep it up, these videos are great. the scale is great. your videos have helped me make a lot of informed decisions when it comes to my archery setup.
I've had my Drive NXT for over 3 yrs, paint peeled after a yr, and last yr my limbs splintered. But still PSE warrentied 100%. I still believe it's a great buy.
I just watched another bow review of the Mach 33 and PSE Lev and light 33 X and its true the PSE full draw brace height grew over 1 inch more than the mathews. The guy loved the mathews but said he did shoot the PSE better at long range. He is wondering now if it really does matter, I want to know what other bows are measuring at full draw, like the bowtech SS34.
Any chance you can look into a make a video about the module slipping past the draw stops at full draw? This is an issue I have and can not find the solution. I’ve read about either moving limbs around, shimming cams, or adjusting cam lean… I’m not sure which direction to go here and I don’t have any reputable bow shops around me.
That's my backup for my hoyt. Stays in my moutian cabin yr around. Always on with a lot of adjustment incase one of my buddy's breaks his bow he hunts on.
I like the scoring, and I think it's fair to compare to other PSE bows since it's the manufacturer and what they deliver is what you need to provide judgement on. What do you think is (or should be) most valuable when you look at buying a new bow, outside of budget? I.e., what would you heavily consider at any price range. Thanks for the honest review!
Like your reviews, I will be taking them into consideration this season because I am in the market for a new bow, I had a Bowtech Solution but recently sold my entire setup. Had another bow lined up and the person reneged on me. SO that left me with out a bow as Deer season started the beginning of the month. I am heading out west for an elk hunt and will be gone for the next 3 weeks and will be home right as BT puts their 25s out. So I figured, I will see what they have to offer before I pull the trigger on a either the new 25 or the old 24. It sucks but, it is what it is. I will live with it but, your videos and expertise explain a lot of what to look for in a bow and help me make the decisions. I am leaning hard towards BT because of all the tunability and features but, want to see what the other bow manufactures are offering before I release the funds on a 1300ish dollar bow.
In today's market I'd have to mortgage my house to buy a new bow just my opinion that's ridiculous by the time you're said and done with it you got $2,500 to $3,000 in it for a new one to come out next year I don't understand the bow market at all
New one to come out exactly a year later leaving you with a very depreciating asset in hand…i still do need and want a new bow ive been rocking the RX-1 for quite some time now and its just not a pleasant or forgiving shooter for reps
That’s only true if you buying into the whole «new technology and added features », if not then a Bear RTH Adapt 2/2+, Alaskan XT, Species, etc at $550-$750 will last you a decade with proper maintenance and you won’t have to mortgage your house 😊
@@innerstrenghtfitness Yep, the features and speeds of those bows would have blown away all the flagship bows 20-25 years ago. We still killed lots of critters with the bows back then. I agree with you completely, that Alaskan XT performs as well, or better that most bows costing 2x-3x the price. If you were in prison, you wouldn't want to drop the soap near Matt Mc Pherson, or any of those other scumbag CEOs of the archery companies
Are we aware that axle to axle length is centerline of one axle to the centerline of the other? Just like vehicle wheelbase is done. If you're measuring outside to outside it's always going to be the thickness of one axle long
Bought a drive 3b new in 2020 limbs had to be replaced in summer of 2023. This year 2 weeks before bow season started in NC I heard a crack took bow to my local shop and had another broken limb. Pse said they no longer made the limbs for it. I owned the bow for 4 years and had limb problems twice. Hope every one else that owns a PSE has better luck but as for me I will never purchase another product that they sell.
My PSE response (2019 I think) has the slivers like the Lift has been getting, on all 4 limbs. Been shooting it that way for a few years with no problems. It's a backup now though.
How much speed do you think id lose at my 29.5” DL, if i compared the Lift 29.5” to the 33”…i really want the 33 for all the good reasons. But dont want to have it wayy slower at my draw curve…also the 29.5 lift maxes at 1/2” longer than my DL so wondering if that would be a really aggressive draw and not as smooth and nice to shoot reps
@@bearhug72 not worried bub. Just wanted to know the difference since the 29.5 peaks almost at my draw length where the 33 doesnt peak until 2” after my draw…im not shooting crazy light arrows. Im around 475 which i wanna stick with so i was wondering. Speed and FOC and a good build translates to more momentum and of course KE. Momentum being more important for penetration.
I like the new judging system. Just one note: Decibels aren't on an exponential scale. its a logarithmic scale. Every 3db is a doubling of sound intensity. but every 10db is a doubling of "apparent loudness" to the human ear. So if a bow is 10db quieter than another, it is 50% as loud. so theoretically, If a bow is shooting at say 71db, and another bow is shooting at 70db, the bow that shoots at 70db is roughly 5% quieter to the human ear. I would say that is actually a significant difference, especially is one bow is shooting 2-3 decibels quieter than the competition.
Anyways, Keep it up, these videos are great. the scale is great. your videos have helped me make a lot of informed decisions when it comes to my archery setup.
I've had my Drive NXT for over 3 yrs, paint peeled after a yr, and last yr my limbs splintered. But still PSE warrentied 100%.
I still believe it's a great buy.
drive nxt has always been a great bow. don't sleep on it, its a great shooter.
I just watched another bow review of the Mach 33 and PSE Lev and light 33 X and its true the PSE full draw brace height grew over 1 inch more than the mathews. The guy loved the mathews but said he did shoot the PSE better at long range. He is wondering now if it really does matter, I want to know what other bows are measuring at full draw, like the bowtech SS34.
Any chance you can look into a make a video about the module slipping past the draw stops at full draw? This is an issue I have and can not find the solution.
I’ve read about either moving limbs around, shimming cams, or adjusting cam lean… I’m not sure which direction to go here and I don’t have any reputable bow shops around me.
That PSE is your new basic beginner bow for someone looking to get into archery. That's your perfect bow for first time shooters.
That's my backup for my hoyt. Stays in my moutian cabin yr around. Always on with a lot of adjustment incase one of my buddy's breaks his bow he hunts on.
I like the scoring, and I think it's fair to compare to other PSE bows since it's the manufacturer and what they deliver is what you need to provide judgement on. What do you think is (or should be) most valuable when you look at buying a new bow, outside of budget? I.e., what would you heavily consider at any price range. Thanks for the honest review!
Like your reviews, I will be taking them into consideration this season because I am in the market for a new bow, I had a Bowtech Solution but recently sold my entire setup. Had another bow lined up and the person reneged on me. SO that left me with out a bow as Deer season started the beginning of the month. I am heading out west for an elk hunt and will be gone for the next 3 weeks and will be home right as BT puts their 25s out. So I figured, I will see what they have to offer before I pull the trigger on a either the new 25 or the old 24. It sucks but, it is what it is. I will live with it but, your videos and expertise explain a lot of what to look for in a bow and help me make the decisions. I am leaning hard towards BT because of all the tunability and features but, want to see what the other bow manufactures are offering before I release the funds on a 1300ish dollar bow.
Consider Darton. I am going to them after 23 years with Mathews
Order the new 2025 Martin Firecat.
In today's market I'd have to mortgage my house to buy a new bow just my opinion that's ridiculous by the time you're said and done with it you got $2,500 to $3,000 in it for a new one to come out next year I don't understand the bow market at all
New one to come out exactly a year later leaving you with a very depreciating asset in hand…i still do need and want a new bow ive been rocking the RX-1 for quite some time now and its just not a pleasant or forgiving shooter for reps
Just like cell phones!
That’s only true if you buying into the whole «new technology and added features », if not then a Bear RTH Adapt 2/2+, Alaskan XT, Species, etc at $550-$750 will last you a decade with proper maintenance and you won’t have to mortgage your house 😊
@@innerstrenghtfitness Yep, the features and speeds of those bows would have blown away all the flagship bows 20-25 years ago. We still killed lots of critters with the bows back then. I agree with you completely, that Alaskan XT performs as well, or better that most bows costing 2x-3x the price. If you were in prison, you wouldn't want to drop the soap near Matt Mc Pherson, or any of those other scumbag CEOs of the archery companies
@@randallflores-qr8csIn your opinion why are the CEO’s of those companies “scumbags”? If you don’t like their bows then don’t buy them. Very Simple
Are we aware that axle to axle length is centerline of one axle to the centerline of the other? Just like vehicle wheelbase is done. If you're measuring outside to outside it's always going to be the thickness of one axle long
I just got out of work and thought I was losing my mind hearing back up alarms still
What would the score be if we put a Mathews badge on that bow?
Lift 33 (1349$)… Dovetail Boonie w custom triple stack (529$)…Hamskea Epsilon rest (269$)…. 10” Mathews stabilizer (259$)….Mathews quiver (249$)…. Mathews v bar 139$)…. 8” rear stabilizer (249$)…….. cost 3043$
What do you think about the pse brute? Would you say its worth it to just pay more and get the drive? Thanks,
Like the bow good review
You should do a recap of high score per dollar after all 2025 bows have been tested
My drawing is 26 inches and I'm pulling 70 pounds.Should I get the bowtech CP 30 or the drive NXT. They r selling them for the same price
Get an Evo XF 30
I went with the CP30
Is the launcher on the rest broken?
So if it’s the same as last year bow are they the same score or worse or better
Bought a drive 3b new in 2020 limbs had to be replaced in summer of 2023. This year 2 weeks before bow season started in NC I heard a crack took bow to my local shop and had another broken limb. Pse said they no longer made the limbs for it. I owned the bow for 4 years and had limb problems twice. Hope every one else that owns a PSE has better luck but as for me I will never purchase another product that they sell.
My PSE response (2019 I think) has the slivers like the Lift has been getting, on all 4 limbs. Been shooting it that way for a few years with no problems. It's a backup now though.
How much speed do you think id lose at my 29.5” DL, if i compared the Lift 29.5” to the 33”…i really want the 33 for all the good reasons. But dont want to have it wayy slower at my draw curve…also the 29.5 lift maxes at 1/2” longer than my DL so wondering if that would be a really aggressive draw and not as smooth and nice to shoot reps
Stop worrying about speed
@@bearhug72 not worried bub. Just wanted to know the difference since the 29.5 peaks almost at my draw length where the 33 doesnt peak until 2” after my draw…im not shooting crazy light arrows. Im around 475 which i wanna stick with so i was wondering. Speed and FOC and a good build translates to more momentum and of course KE. Momentum being more important for penetration.
Great bow the only very small can I see is the polymer limb pocket. Not saying polymer sucks just saying I perfer a metal over plastic
Plastic limb pockets?
Here
Integration and features shpuldnt be out ot 10 or whatever, they should just be point. 1 point for each feature or integration and have it open ended.
You don’t take money from Mathews but you sure make a lot of money off Mathews which could influence your conclusions.
3 db is twice as loud, not 1 db.