Lol you do not pull your thumb off on every pump! In 55 years of living and a shop full of coleman stoves and lanterns I've never seen or heard of anyone removing their thumb while pulling back on the pump. The retainer ring at the base of the pump has a hole for oil and it draws air also. The hole in the pump button is for another reason, it's so you won't over pump the tank. If applying to much pressure the air will slip by your thumb and once you've finished pumping it allows the plunger to fall back down to position without any pressure against it.
Yup, you are very correct. I learned that after rebuilding one and seeing how it was built. Imagine doing it this way for 20 years, then taking one apart and feeling silly about yourself. :D But now you can't say in 55 years you haven't heard of someone doing it this way. ha!
Leaving a comment in 2024 as we were desperately trying to light this stove in the middle of Wales 🏴 on our annual camping trip. Minimal signal, I boot up this video. We watch it. We light the stove. You saved us from going hungry my friend. Thank you 🫡
most people don't understand what the lighting lever does, i'll try to explain it. when the lever is turned up, it opens an air bleed valve that allows a mist of fuel and air to travel through the generator tube making the stove easy to light with minimal flare-ups, you get less flare-ups if the pressure in the tank is as high as possible. so it's sort-of a carburetor, like you would have on a gas/petrol engine. once the generator tube is hot, you turn the lever down which closes the air bleed. the stove will still run just fine with the lever up and the air bleed open, but you will have to pump pressure into the tank more often to keep the stove going. so turning the lever down saves air pressure so you only have to pump up the tank a few times an hour rather than every few minutes. so the key to a minimal flare startup is to pump up the tank to a high pressure, turn the lever up, and light the burner as quickly as possible after opening the main control knob one full turn. follow this procedure and you will never burn your eyebrows off :)
50 plus years of using Coleman stoves. I've tried others but always seem to come back to them. I have one that was handed down to me from my dad that he purchased used. It works as well as it did when it was brand new. Great video!
I really like them! I purchased this one new earlier last year. It doesn't look too different from the older ones and appears to be made the same way. I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for an older 3 burner, it should be fun to restore!
@@1D10CRACY The 3 burners were great for when you were camp cook! You still can get generators for them. Add a lantern and your cooking and lighting needs are taken care of!
Excellent video. I bought this stove 20 yrs ago and have never used it. Just kept it on standby. Your video told me everything that needed to know to start / run my stove with no nonsense! Thank you!
Last MY lifetime he says. I've got a 426D that's 6 years older than me. It works like it just came out of the box. They'll work a couple of lifetimes of us mere mortals.
Thanks for posting. The most important part of this video for me was to turn that knob to the left a few times under the vacuum pump. without this info my campstove would NEVER work! Thanks for your video!
Bought my 424 new in 2016 at an REI gear sale for $60. What a gorgeous stove and built like a tank! As a kid in Boy Scouts, I grew up with other family friends who had theirs handed down to them from their grand and great-grandparents. Now I see why, I always thought it that it was a complicated process to light these gas stoves up but it's not. I also have a Naphtha 533 that I bought new at a Ross for $20! Both of these babies work perfectly and are basically brand new. Thanks for sharing!
You don't have to take your thumb off the pump handle hole, as the air will go around the internal cup seal and fill the pump chamber on your outward stroke.
Great information... In Scouts we weren't allowed to have any liquid fuel in camp so our stoves were all Propane. They really work well and never let us down! Greats stuff!
I bought a 3-burner 426D Coleman back in the early 70s. Eat your heart out! I had to use it a few years ago to finish cooking dinner when we lost electric power. The gas had to be over 10 years old. Fired up - no problem. I have a propane conversion kit for it in case I can't get any liquid fuel. Makes it a tri-fuel stove. These stoves and lanterns became dual fuel once leaded gas was no longer being made. Coleman is my go-to product. I also have a 533 single burner that Wal-Mart had on clearance for $30, 1 Coleman catalytic heater, 2 2-burner lanterns. I'm always on the lookout for Coleman stuff to hoard in case of lockdown.
I managed to find a good deal on eBay a few days ago for a 426D, it looks like it might need some restoration, but the seller says it is functional. I have a propane Coleman lantern that is rather old, but I have not infested in a gas one, yet. :D
Went camping this week with the 424 my uncle gave mein 1990! worked like a charm but was getting all tall yellow flames and was just about uncontrollable full output? watched your video and saw you take your thumb off the pump on the extraction stroke Dou......that was the whole problem did it your way beautiful blue flame thanks.jim
Tip: use a 12 oz bottle to measure and store fuel. 13 oz is full, and 12 should do one nicely. Plus, the bottle fits inside the stove case. I also use it to purge leftover fuel. Just put the generator in the bottle, turn it on and watch fuel collect in the bottle.
Just bought model 431 , have no idea of what vintage it is but cleaned it with brake cleaner , gave it a thorough scrub, added Coleman fuel and Voila works wonderfully. Reading the forums I see that I can use unleaded gas as well but need to clean it more often. BTW stove was 20.00 and white gas per liter is 22.00 , so I will get another fuel bottle for unleaded gas at 1.76 a liter.
I have an old Coleman from the 60's and I run gas in mine! I am using it now and it works great! You can take them apart and clean them if needed. I am 64 and everybody I ever knew ran gas in them even when it was leaded gas...before unleaded came to be. Nobody I knew paid for that high priced Coleman fuel and it still worked fine! I just run a little STP through mine if I feel like it!
After tetraethyl lead was removed from pump gas, all liquid fuel Coleman appliances became dual fuel without any modifications. But I won't burn pump gas in my stove and lantenrs because of the additives to keep injectors clean and the octane rating high.
I bought a mint 424 stove. Years ago I had a 3-burner Coleman white gas stove, so I am familiar with this type of stove. I removed the burner parts, gave them a good shine, and reassembled them. Touched up a few paint flaws, and began to play with it. I found I was flooding the chamber with liquid gas when turning it off with the level down. I even went so far, as to remove the burners (removed the 2 nuts on the bottom and the screw in the back). I removed the burner system and poured out the liquid gas resting in the bottom of the horn like chamber with the 2 holes. A flooded chamber produces a yellow flame and seldom settles to a perfect blue flame. Fuel in the bellows-like chamber is difficult to burn off. So I attempted to light the burner without flooding the bellows with liquid gas. Pump the fuel 30 times. fuel handle up. Turn on burner control and light the flame. I start at a low flame and wait for the pipe to heat. a blue flame is a must. 1 min or 2? I than turn the fuel handle slowly to the down position and watch the flame. (Still blue). At this time I am able to turn up the flame to full burn, and it is a perfect blue color. When I turn it off, I turn the flame down, raise the fuel level up, and let the stove burn vapors for a minute or so. I then turn it off. Thus avoiding sucking raw fuel into the chamber. Thoughts? 3/4
These are great stoves. Propane is easier to use but this same basic type of stove has been around since the 1930s. There have been a lot of camp meals prepared on this kind of stove in the last 85 years.
I remember an episode of M*A*S*H where the Colonel said something like, "tell them to pump up the gas stoves". I never knew what that meant. Apparently it was literal! Thanks for the video.
$6 for 1 gal white gas!?!? It's $12/gal at my local Wal-Mart! I like the liquid fuel stoves. I bought a 426D way back in the 1970s. Still have it and it still works as if it were new. One important item: the right burner is the primary burner. It must alwasy be li any time you're using the stove, even if you intend to use the left burner only. The right burner vaporizes the fuel through the tube (it';s the generator) so that the fuel can burn cleanly.
Crazy huh! That video was only two years ago! When I bought a gallon of white gas at the local Meijor this past summer, it was $14! Talk about rapid inflation!
I’ve found the tank always comes out of place. I solved by drilling a hole in each tab that goes through slot and use two small cotter pins to hold onto stove. I mounted a small magnet to stove that holds pins when not in use. Had mine for 44 years and just used it last weekend. Perfect!!
Other commentators are correct you don’t need to remove your thumb off the hole in the plunger. My parents used Coleman all my life and I could light a stove and lantern at 6yrs old. I am now 75 and their stove and lantern still work but I have my own dual fuel stoves and lanterns.
Hey kinda late to my comment, but can I leave the fuel in here for long periods of time? It will I need to empty it out? I use the Coleman fuel that’s meant for this. Thanks
Lol you do not pull your thumb off on every pump! In 55 years of living and a shop full of coleman stoves and lanterns I've never seen or heard of anyone removing their thumb while pulling back on the pump. The retainer ring at the base of the pump has a hole for oil and it draws air also. The hole in the pump button is for another reason, it's so you won't over pump the tank. If applying to much pressure the air will slip by your thumb and once you've finished pumping it allows the plunger to fall back down to position without any pressure against it.
Yup, you are very correct. I learned that after rebuilding one and seeing how it was built. Imagine doing it this way for 20 years, then taking one apart and feeling silly about yourself. :D But now you can't say in 55 years you haven't heard of someone doing it this way. ha!
Leaving a comment in 2024 as we were desperately trying to light this stove in the middle of Wales 🏴 on our annual camping trip. Minimal signal, I boot up this video. We watch it. We light the stove. You saved us from going hungry my friend. Thank you 🫡
most people don't understand what the lighting lever does, i'll try to explain it. when the lever is turned up, it opens an air bleed valve that allows a mist of fuel and air to travel through the generator tube making the stove easy to light with minimal flare-ups, you get less flare-ups if the pressure in the tank is as high as possible. so it's sort-of a carburetor, like you would have on a gas/petrol engine. once the generator tube is hot, you turn the lever down which closes the air bleed. the stove will still run just fine with the lever up and the air bleed open, but you will have to pump pressure into the tank more often to keep the stove going. so turning the lever down saves air pressure so you only have to pump up the tank a few times an hour rather than every few minutes. so the key to a minimal flare startup is to pump up the tank to a high pressure, turn the lever up, and light the burner as quickly as possible after opening the main control knob one full turn. follow this procedure and you will never burn your eyebrows off :)
50 plus years of using Coleman stoves. I've tried others but always seem to come back to them. I have one that was handed down to me from my dad that he purchased used. It works as well as it did when it was brand new. Great video!
I really like them! I purchased this one new earlier last year. It doesn't look too different from the older ones and appears to be made the same way. I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for an older 3 burner, it should be fun to restore!
@@1D10CRACY The 3 burners were great for when you were camp cook! You still can get generators for them. Add a lantern and your cooking and lighting needs are taken care of!
Excellent video. I bought this stove 20 yrs ago and have never used it. Just kept it on standby. Your video told me everything that needed to know to start / run my stove with no nonsense! Thank you!
Last MY lifetime he says. I've got a 426D that's 6 years older than me. It works like it just came out of the box. They'll work a couple of lifetimes of us mere mortals.
Thanks for posting. The most important part of this video for me was to turn that knob to the left a few times under the vacuum pump. without this info my campstove would NEVER work! Thanks for your video!
Bought my 424 new in 2016 at an REI gear sale for $60. What a gorgeous stove and built like a tank! As a kid in Boy Scouts, I grew up with other family friends who had theirs handed down to them from their grand and great-grandparents. Now I see why, I always thought it that it was a complicated process to light these gas stoves up but it's not. I also have a Naphtha 533 that I bought new at a Ross for $20! Both of these babies work perfectly and are basically brand new. Thanks for sharing!
You don't have to take your thumb off the pump handle hole, as the air will go around the internal cup seal and fill the pump chamber on your outward stroke.
Great information... In Scouts we weren't allowed to have any liquid fuel in camp so our stoves were all Propane. They really work well and never let us down! Greats stuff!
I bought a 3-burner 426D Coleman back in the early 70s. Eat your heart out! I had to use it a few years ago to finish cooking dinner when we lost electric power. The gas had to be over 10 years old. Fired up - no problem. I have a propane conversion kit for it in case I can't get any liquid fuel. Makes it a tri-fuel stove. These stoves and lanterns became dual fuel once leaded gas was no longer being made. Coleman is my go-to product. I also have a 533 single burner that Wal-Mart had on clearance for $30, 1 Coleman catalytic heater, 2 2-burner lanterns. I'm always on the lookout for Coleman stuff to hoard in case of lockdown.
I managed to find a good deal on eBay a few days ago for a 426D, it looks like it might need some restoration, but the seller says it is functional. I have a propane Coleman lantern that is rather old, but I have not infested in a gas one, yet. :D
Now I understand why I see these at thrift stores. Kinda complicated for first timers. This was a clear explanation thanks!
Went camping this week with the 424 my uncle gave mein 1990! worked like a charm but was getting all tall yellow flames and was just about uncontrollable full output? watched your video and saw you take your thumb off the pump on the extraction stroke Dou......that was the whole problem did it your way beautiful blue flame thanks.jim
Tip: use a 12 oz bottle to measure and store fuel. 13 oz is full, and 12 should do one nicely. Plus, the bottle fits inside the stove case. I also use it to purge leftover fuel. Just put the generator in the bottle, turn it on and watch fuel collect in the bottle.
Take a shot every time he says "Bottle" and "Fuel"
Just bought model 431 , have no idea of what vintage it is but cleaned it with brake cleaner , gave it a thorough scrub, added Coleman fuel and Voila works wonderfully. Reading the forums I see that I can use unleaded gas as well but need to clean it more often. BTW stove was 20.00 and white gas per liter is 22.00 , so I will get another fuel bottle for unleaded gas at 1.76 a liter.
I have an old Coleman from the 60's and I run gas in mine! I am using it now and it works great! You can take them apart and clean them if needed. I am 64 and everybody I ever knew ran gas in them even when it was leaded gas...before unleaded came to be. Nobody I knew paid for that high priced Coleman fuel and it still worked fine! I just run a little STP through mine if I feel like it!
The Coleman fuel is cheaper than gas right now.
Gas contains benzene and other nasty stuff, don't use it. Use coleman fuel, they took out all the poisonous stuff.
After tetraethyl lead was removed from pump gas, all liquid fuel Coleman appliances became dual fuel without any modifications. But I won't burn pump gas in my stove and lantenrs because of the additives to keep injectors clean and the octane rating high.
I bought a mint 424 stove. Years ago I had a 3-burner Coleman white gas stove, so I am familiar with this type of stove.
I removed the burner parts, gave them a good shine, and reassembled them. Touched up a few paint flaws, and began to play with it. I found I was flooding the chamber with liquid gas when turning it off with the level down. I even went so far, as to remove the burners (removed the 2 nuts on the bottom and the screw in the back). I removed the burner system and poured out the liquid gas resting in the bottom of the horn like chamber with the 2 holes. A flooded chamber produces a yellow flame and seldom settles to a perfect blue flame. Fuel in the bellows-like chamber is difficult to burn off.
So I attempted to light the burner without flooding the bellows with liquid gas. Pump the fuel 30 times. fuel handle up. Turn on burner control and light the flame. I start at a low flame and wait for the pipe to heat. a blue flame is a must. 1 min or 2? I than turn the fuel handle slowly to the down position and watch the flame. (Still blue). At this time I am able to turn up the flame to full burn, and it is a perfect blue color.
When I turn it off, I turn the flame down, raise the fuel level up, and let the stove burn vapors for a minute or so. I then turn it off. Thus avoiding sucking raw fuel into the chamber.
Thoughts?
3/4
Hey thanks! It’s been many years since i lit this, but you helped me get it going. Yes!
Thanks for posting. I picked one up on marketplace and didn’t see any instructions!
These are great stoves. Propane is easier to use but this same basic type of stove has been around since the 1930s. There have been a lot of camp meals prepared on this kind of stove in the last 85 years.
I remember an episode of M*A*S*H where the Colonel said something like, "tell them to pump up the gas stoves". I never knew what that meant. Apparently it was literal! Thanks for the video.
$6 for 1 gal white gas!?!? It's $12/gal at my local Wal-Mart! I like the liquid fuel stoves. I bought a 426D way back in the 1970s. Still have it and it still works as if it were new. One important item: the right burner is the primary burner. It must alwasy be li any time you're using the stove, even if you intend to use the left burner only. The right burner vaporizes the fuel through the tube (it';s the generator) so that the fuel can burn cleanly.
Crazy huh! That video was only two years ago! When I bought a gallon of white gas at the local Meijor this past summer, it was $14! Talk about rapid inflation!
That is a little weapon for camping i like it thanks for the neat information 🙂👌
I’ve found the tank always comes out of place. I solved by drilling a hole in each tab that goes through slot and use two small cotter pins to hold onto stove. I mounted a small magnet to stove that holds pins when not in use. Had mine for 44 years and just used it last weekend. Perfect!!
Other commentators are correct you don’t need to remove your thumb off the hole in the plunger. My parents used Coleman all my life and I could light a stove and lantern at 6yrs old. I am now 75 and their stove and lantern still work but I have my own dual fuel stoves and lanterns.
Do you know if i can fit a 425 fuel tank in to a 424 like yours?
Just got my grandpas old 3 burner 426. Worked just fine after i saturated the pump leather in gun oil. Dry pump would not work.
My 426D works as good as it did when new. I'd never sell or trade it away.
Good day I have problem the flame came from the end of tube do you have Solution for that
Hey kinda late to my comment, but can I leave the fuel in here for long periods of time? It will I need to empty it out? I use the Coleman fuel that’s meant for this. Thanks
@@ggrmc764 I understand that! Thanks for the response:)
Hi. Anybody knows why it pops and shuts off when i try to make a smaller flame for simmering?😢
I pumped up tank when you turn on gas no sound no gas coming thru.Help please!
What if I can't pump the tank? This one has been sitting around for probably 30+ years.
Not sure why they call it a dual fuel ? You can also use propane which now it’s a 3 fuel . They make an adapter for propane use .
'they' make an adapter, but coleman doesn't. that's why coleman calls it a dual fuel...
What's the adapter called?
@@WindsongSoundBath it’s a 5430 gas to propane stove adapter
@@johnbailey9682thank you
The gallon i bought was $18/gal Gasoline around here is about $5/gal
When its gone ill probably just use gasoline.
That can of white gas now costs $16. 😒👎
Ahhh..the Good Ol' Days of highly flammable🔥 liquid fuel ...Thank GOD for Propane Canisters 👍
Guess what? God loves you, but apparently he can't make 1lb propane fuel. There is none to be had for the foreseeable future.