Just ordered one. I’m 58 and have such good memories of these from 1970s Boy Scout days. Our Marine Corps stoves were based on this rugged basic design.
The little lever when up actually is letting in a combination of fuel and air mixed from inside the tank. This helps vaporize the fuel when cold. When you put the lever down after warm, it’s actually going to 100% fuel flow from the tank. At this point you should pump again, since you used a lot of your pumped air during the start.
I have 4 of these stoves 2 425's and 2 413's hade them for over 35 years and they work perfectly. You simply cannot get a better made stove. They cook perfect and if you have the Coleman oven your all set. I have actually made loaf of bread and it baked amazingly well. In the middle of a forest homemade bread. I'll tell you life could not get any better that day. Great video and good educational content 👍
i've been using these stoves since i was a child in the early 1970's, they are extremely reliable and as long as you use a clean-burning fuel you will never need any spare replacement parts. but, if you do somehow manage to clog the generator you don't have to replace it, it can be taken apart and cleaned using a wire brush to clean the long fuel control needle and a properly-sized long drill bit to clean out the generator tube. you can burn kerosene in these stoves but you will have to preheat the generator tube with alcohol placed on the burner top or by using a small blowtorch to get it to light, and you will have to clean out the generator tube more often. a common complaint is that the pump will not build pressure, this is easily fixed by removing the pump and lubricating the pump cup with oil.
Had mine for over 20 years on the recommendation of mates who have had them even longer. A quality and uniquely designed bit of gear - it will outlast me
That was a really good video! I have 2 of these Coleman's. No, they don't burn as hot or cook as fast as some of the other stoves. But, there is just something to them. You either prefer them or you don't. My 2 burner I got from my grandfather when I was 15. He bought it in 1972. 43 years later, I'm still using it. I mainly use it when I'm winter tent camping out of my truck. Tailgate works great as a table for it. I also have one that I bought back in my mid 20's at a yard sale for $30, that's a 3 burner. For the last about 25 or 30 years I've had 2 campers and now a travel trailer and that's where I keep the 3 burner. I do big breakfasts and it's nice to have that 3rd burner. TIP for lighting them. Put about 2 cap fulls of fuel right in the center of the burner after you put the tank on. Light that fuel and let it heat up the tube some before you open the valve and lighting it. It helps to keep the inside and the tip of the tube a litter cleaner. Preheat it.
I love that these stoves always seem to come with a story involving generations of owners, I hope mine will be passed down many times over. Thanks for your tip re lighting, I'll give that a try next time I'm using it, which should be soon... fingers crossed. ~ Ben
I've used one of these for over 20 years, they are great, work well in the high country in winter where butane stoves struggle with the cold. I also use a whisper lite MSR stove when motorcycle touring, same principle, shelllite is clean and easy.
Coleman Dual-Fuel Stoves are the best on the market, and with a simple adapter, can run propane as well. I'll admit, they're a little temperamental at times, and will often give you an attitude while warming up, but there is no replacing the enjoyment from using one. I own three, and my main cooker is from 1977. Still works like new. All the spare parts are readily available & inexpensive here in the US.
My favourite stove as well. Dependable, great temperature control, lightweight (albeit a little voluminous). Been using one for over 20 yrs. Funnel also incorporates a filter.
I just ordered one because this type of Coleman stove was the best thing available when I was a kid in America and I’m 63 now! Plus, I hate having to depend on propane bottles when I can take fuel out of my vehicle in a pinch. Looking forward to getting it. Thanks for sharing, mate!😊
I have been preparing for long term shortages, I have been considering this particular stove. This video has convinced me that this will be in my inventory. Thank you...
great demonstration. I just bought a model 431 for 20.00 Canadian and the after washing it out with brake clean i bought a liter of Coleman fuel for 22 bucks ! My new to me stove is 42 years old and has obviously been dropped a lot. but is working wonderfully. So I went to the Coleman forums and I see that I can use white gas , unleaded gas currently 1.76 a liter , and kerosene 3.78 liters for 18.00 with the caveat that it needs cleaning a bit more.
That's exactly why I got this one. If I have to get fuel I can save in it from my car. People are relying on the butane, they're limited on how many tanks they have or if stores run out of them.
I love these stoves and just picked up a 1979 425e duel burner that was just lit and tested by the owner, it is brand new almost. Also bought a Chinese knock of single burner for $37.00 and it works real good also. It sounds like you are on the airport flight line with a jet plan next to you but I like it. Plus I love the reaction of campers next to me in the morning.
That was a top-notch demonstration and very well explained. Thank you so much for taking the time and going to the trouble of educating the viewers. I will be purchasing this stove in a couple of days. Thanks again and stay safe.
Dual fuel is the best. Have ditched all my old LPG stoves and gone completely dual fuel - even using my lanterns (hate LED light). In the high country, dual fuel kills LGP in terms of heat output. An interesting alternative is two single burner Coleman 533s set up under a stand. That way you have essentially the same output, same fuel source (and operating system), but independent heat control and can be spaced further apart to better deal with pan sizes etc. Just need to make a wind break and Bob's ya uncle.
Thanks Ben, you guys did a podcast on cooking a few months back and literally pushed me on a new stove buying journey. I've spent about a month debating whether to get the hyperflame or the dual fuel. Long story short I decided to get the dual fuel and if I don't like it, I'll sell it on marketplace and buy the hyperflame
Great video! I converted to white gas stoves about 11years ago and haven't regretted doing so. My ultralight backpacking stove is a supremely powerful Soto Muka which I'm convinced burns as hot as the sun.😉 My other backpacking stove that I mostly use car camping is a Coleman Naphtha 533. My main "big" stove is the 424 and love every single one of them. No matter how long they sit around they light up every time. Cherrs!
Picked one up for 90 bucks at a second hand shop. Works great easy to use and wind doesnt effect it. I use a usb recharchable bbq spark lighter, much easier than matches. The only complaint id say with mine is its a bit small for two fry pans. I have smaller model tho. Great bits of camping gear, and built solid asf
The lighting lever is actually the opposite of a choke. It won't burn extra fuel. It will deplete extra air, and pretty fast. Turn it down as soon as it's warmed up(or 1 minute after lighting) The key to clean, safe, flare free, eyebrow conserving running with these it to FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS printed on the lid EXACTLY as they are written. It SAYS to QUICKLY open the valve at least 2 full turns FOR A REASON. If you FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS printed on the lid, you WON"T have yellow flames hardly at all, and the stove will be ready to cook faster without the black soot you have on your grate and pots. If anyone wants the reason or a detailed explanation of the operation of the instant lighting theory of operation, let me know. For now, suffice to say that plenty of pressure and high flow rate are your friends. Use them. QUICKLY opening the valve at least 2 full revolutions achieves adequate flow for good fuel atomization so you don't flood the generator with liquid fuel. Pro tip: Older stoves called for wide open, but 2 revs is usually plenty. Wide open meets the "at least 2 full turns" requirement. Lots of pressure means high velocity air pick up and atomizes the fuel better. This is why the INSTRUCTIONS ON THE LID tell you to pump approximately 35 full strokes. Pro tips: This assumes a full tank of fuel. If there is less fuel in the tank pump it more. You cannot over pressurize these tanks with the built in pump. The pump will produce about 40psi max. The tanks are built to withstand 500 psi. Older manuals tell you to start pumping additional pressure as soon as it lights to maintain good pressure during generator warm up. This still works on these as well. Low pressure and partially opened valves lead to generator flooding, yellow flames, soot, and much longer warm up times. You should be able to be fully warmed up and ready to cook in a minute or less. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS and see what you think. I believe you will be pleasantly surprised. Then with practice, you can develop a feel for how it works. Pro tip: Watch the flame during the warm up process. At some point the blue flames will start pulsing and dancing away from the burner rings. This is when the generator is hot, generating gas, and ready to cook. It's usually way less than a full minute but go with the instructions if you don't want to experiment. Turn the lighting lever down and enjoy. Add pressure when you notice the flame getting weaker as needed. Pro tip: To shut down, older manuals called for turning the lighting lever up again and letting it burn for a minute or when the flames started jumping off the burner indicating a lean condition before closing the main valve. This purges the generator of most of the liquid fuel so it didn't continue to leak out of the gas tip in transport or storage. I hope someone finds this useful.
I bought one of these in the 90s and ran it on unleaded petrol. It was very fussy and blocked farly quickly. The two burners were not independent of each other so that flame adjustment was a bit hit and miss. I took it back for an exchange, but found the replacement was just as unreliable so took that back and got a refund. I replaced it with a double burner gas stove with a grill. Much bulkier, but works reliably!
I bought 2 coleman 533 dual fuel stoves and a oztrail grill stand, I place the two 533 under the grill and use that to place the pans etc works well, and I fit my entire kitchen into 32l plastic tub and love not carrying gas.
I have found that Shellite (white fuel) has become stupidly expensive. I changed my fuel to regular unleaded at a tenth of the cost. It burns the same, doesn't smell and is sooooo cheap to run. I reckon I could carry a replacement generator for a long trip to not have to clean one mid trip.I have an off road caravan with LPG cooker. This is an alternative reliable outdoor cooker in case one system dies.I also love that you have to know what you are doing. Old school. Purist camping...
Pair these with a 2-sided griddle, and you got a set-up anywhere grill and griddle. Take the kids to the park and hamburgers and hotdogs until they pop. Makes family outings way easier. I use a 426D (3 burner) I got second-hand and rebuit. Keep them clean and maintained about once a year, and you'll be handing these things down to your grandkids.
@@SnowysOutdoors Me too. I went and bought the hot plate that goes with it as well and have to say that I'm not as impressed with it. I use a cast iron frypan on mine now mostly and it's great. I've cooked up some pretty impressive feeds out in the sticks on this thing.
Had mine for close to 25 years and still going strong. Even with old (10yrs old) fuel in it, a quick flush out and it fires up. Only drama I've had: after a cold night, the o-rings in the pump will shrink and won't build any pressure. Had to wave it over a struck match to get the rubber too expand to seal again.
The lever is not a choke, pointing up in the start position it allows flammable vapour from the top of the tank to flow through to light and preheat generator. Flipped down after preheat allows liquid fuel through from bottom of tank. In the up position burning vapour it loses pressure quickly, that’s why you need to pump a few more times. Cheers
That makes a whole lot of sense, Steeno, thanks for your input here. I've never pulled the generator apart to see what it does, so just made some assumptions. A quick Google search would have answered my question though. Cheers! ~ Ben
I had one of these for over 25 years and it was just great. The only problem I found with them was that you could not get spare parts and in the end stopped using it because I could not obtain a simple part to keep it running (the rest of the stove was fine).
There are lots of people who have been using their Powerhouse stoves for 20+ years, Con, thanks for your feedback. As far as I am aware we can still get all the parts, if you are in Australia you can always get in touch (www.snowys.com.au/contact-us) and let us know what you need, we'll look into it for you. ~ Ben
I pick these up at garage sales whenever I see them, ive got maybe 30? I don't think I've even spent $100 total on them, awesome little stoves, I just get a gallon can of white gas from a big box store, lasts most of the year camping.
@@timheilig6091 I hope they don't stop making them, Tim, I've just heard a few rumours here and there for some time now. Fingers crossed they don't come true. ~ Ben
Use one for years best bit of kit the best up side is you can always get fuel night or day my mate did set the whole thing on fire but put it out clean it up worked fine after i have always used petrol in it.( DO NOT SWITCH ON FULL AND THEN GET YOUR MATCHES ) like he did lol.
Used one for well over two decades, maybe 25 years ago (last used). Very good when new, they tend to take more and more maintenance, plus they can be smelly and messy. Very reliable generally, even when sooting up they can be cleaned easily. A good option, but no longer mine...
I love that with a little bit of maintenance they last for decades, silknfeathers. For me, I love the longevity as well as not needing a gas bottle, these things outweigh the little bit of smell for me. ~ Ben
The 533 Sportster is a great stove too, I considered this to lighten my load even more but I needed a little more cooking capacity for my family which the Powerhouse provides. I reckon the 533 would be perfect for solo campers. ~ Ben
Good demonstration. You really covered all the basics. I do release the pressure in the fuel tank when I’m done cooking…. I noticed you didn’t mention that. Is there any benefit to leaving it pressurized?
I release the pressure for safety in transport but don't usually bother if it is set up ready for use. There is no benefit either way other than you don't need to repressurise from scratch each time if you don't release the pressure after use. ~ Ben
Good question, I haven't compared this directly. There would be a number of variables to any experiment though i.e. type of gas stove, temperature etc, but I don't reckon there would be a big difference either way. I reckon I would have used around 4 litres of shellite over a 4 month trip. ~ Ben
I switched to using one of these stoves about a year ago and I do not regret it. It works really well, simple design, rugged, spare parts available. Butane stoves do not work well in the cold weather and LPG gas bottle refills are becoming more difficult to find once you leave the city or larger towns. Also the problem with LPG gas bottles is that it's difficult to know how much gas is left in the bottle so you need to carry an extra bottle which is more weight and space taken up. Does anyone know of a good bag that will fit this stove as I think that may be it's only negative ?
Well said, Derek, thanks for your comments. As for a bag, I don't know of any, but we have been hunting around for something, keep an eye out on our range. ~ Ben
I always wanted one of these kinds of stoves but I'm really not sure if we are able to use it or fuel lanterns during the fire ban? I ask my local outdoor retailer no one can confirm this.
If you are in Australia, any open flame is banned on total fire ban days - this includes stoves. Some places like National Parks also have stoves banned generally through the fire restrictions season. You'd need to check with your local authority, not a retailer. Hope that helps. ~ Lauren
Would this also run from kero, metho etc? I have an old MSR hiking stove that operates on the same principal and you can use any liquid fuel in it, even diesel (though I haven't tried that myself).
There are other versions that will run on diesel, apsilonblue, but I don't think they are available in Australia - not currently anyway. This stove (the 414) is designed to just run on Coleman fuel/Shellite or unleaded. Kerosene is much like diesel in that it is a dirty burning fuel so that will gunk up the 414 quickly. Metho is a much less volatile fuel and is used in spirit burner stoves, I don't know of any multi-fuel stove that runs on it, in theory it just shouldn't work. ~ Ben
👋, it might sound a silly question, but when you put the tank onto the cooker, the tube goes through but what makes it seal to the burner, if youcsee what I mean. You don't look like you screw it on or anything, it just seems to go into a hole
Yep, that's all it does. I don't know exactly what happens inside the silver part that the tube goes into, but all it is doing is squirting fuel to start with, then once it is hot it starts squirting vapour. Not sure exactly how it works, but it does. ~ Ben
The generator tube goes through the burner and fuel gets heated into vapours. burn like a gas. There is a start up leaver and one running lever goes down. Best system! Love camping with my colman duel fuel stove and lamp.
My issue is there is no easy way to drain the unused gas from the tank. You can’t just remove the cap and pour it out. So you have siphon it out which is crazy.
@@SnowysOutdoorsSorry, I should have specified I’m not using white gas. I’m using pump gasoline which has ethanol (absorbs water) and a pretty short shelf life. I did see another vid after I posted this where he inserted a tube through a drilled out cork and then used the pump on the tank to pump the fuel out. Great idea! Enjoyed your video too and thanks for the reply!
Its the preference from a performance perspective - I think efficiency and just burns cleaner overall, meaning less maintenance for the stove overtime. ~ Lauren
Hey, I think you might have converted me but I've just checked your website and it looks like you don't stock these any more. Do you plan to restock these or is there another shop that sells them that you can recommend?
Coleman arent currently making them sorry @JoshSinnott97 They're in the process of finding a new manufacturer for all their dual fuel products. Once they're back on the market, we will be stocking them for sure. ~ Lauren
Nothing I noticed in the food, Task. The only time I could smell the fuel was when refilling or as the stove burnt out after switching off, but when cooking it doesn't smell. ~ Ben
Shellite buns clean resulting in next to no smell or taste. If one was to use unleaded fuel in it, then ud notice more aromas n slight taste it also burns more dirty resulting in more soot. With unleaded you need to be more on top of air to fuel ratios, shellite is a little more forgiving if you dont pump the tank enough.
I use rechargeable lanterns, dx80cruiser. The old multi-fuel lanterns from Coleman were awesome but big, you get good light from more compact lithium powered units nowadays. ~ Ben
It is sad fact but a true one. The lanterns also chew through alot of fuel and aren't as easy to turn on and off as an electrical light. Sad days indeed, the classic hiss of a fuel lantern was so nice
I have two Coleman lanterns and love them to bits. Much prefer their light to LEDs which I really do not like. The only downside is that they can be very noisey when turned up.
I have the Coleman Northstar lantern. This thing will illuminate a damn grid square. Fantastic lantern and the nice classic Coleman hiss as dx80cruser says.
I'm not sure on that sorry, J P, I'd say you'd be best disassembling the generator and giving things a clean out rather than introducing additives. Furthermore, I'd recommend using Shellite all the time, it burns cleaner, easy to come across and you're less likely to have issues. ~ Ben
Hi Snowys, are you still selling these and/or spare parts? Wondering what is going on with Coleman and the entire dual fuel line up of stoves and lanterns and why are they not available anywhere anymore? Thanks
We are getting mixed information, I don't think they will be available in Australia any more, but I'm not confident enough to say whether or not they are still being manufactured. We are all for them being continued, I for one love my Powerhouse stove, and we've let Coleman know our thoughts on the matter. ~ Ben
You can crank up the pressure in the fuel tank which helps a little with efficiency in the wind, but you will always experience lesser performance in windy conditions. A wind break will be your best solution. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors That's a real shame, having done some recent trips in colder weather these would be great over the butane stoves, I would love to buy a Coleman Dual Fuel Stove and Dual Fuel Lantern, hopefully they sort their manufacturing out soon... Guess just have to try to find one used on Marketplace.
Maybe you've turned it down too far, Robert, my stove makes a bit of a pop after I have turned it off, and just at the stage that the fuel burns out. ~ Ben
Could be a number of things, possible more pressure needed in the tank, make sure the generator is well warmed up before turning up the burner, or maybe your generator and/or jets need a clean. ~ Ben
Not right now, but I know that Blacksmith Camping Supplies are working on a canvas carry bag specifically for this stove. I don't have an eta for you sorry but I it's not too far off being available. ~ Ben
G’day David, We’ve just released our Stove Bag, perfectly suited for the Duel Fuel Stove - blacksmithcamping.com/products/australian-made-stove-bag Cheers, Laine
I beleave, little lever up, just vapour into tube, when hot, lever down, that then lets petrol in, ie, open hole up top, vapour, lever down, opens hole in bottom , fuel , some thing like that,
Yeah, I wish I had looked into this before we filmed the video. Lever up lets vapour in for lighting, lever down lets fuel in which turns to vapour one the generator is warmed up. Makes perfect sense when you think about it, and helps when understanding how the lighting process works. ~ Ben
The little metal lever controls a little metal rod in the tank's pick up tube. When the lever is up it allows a mixture of air in the tank along with some fuel for easy lighting. After a minute or so after the generator has heated up properly, you turn the little metal lever down so just raw fuel is being delivered to the generator. When the metal rod in the pickup is turned down it blocks air from mixing with the fuel, so much higher output from the burner is accomplished. After the lever is turned down several more pumps are required to repressurize the fuel tank because some of the the air was mixed with fuel for easy lighting in the beginning. These stoves are superior to the propane stoves in the very cold temperature because naphtha, shelllite, and unleaded gas have a much higher volatility at lower temps than propane or butane.
@@cajuncookone thanks for your insights, I love my Coleman powerhouse stove, hopefully, it's something that stays in the market. There have been numerous conversations in the industry over the years about dropping this type of cooker in favour of lpg. ~ Ben
Ok it’s not a duel fuel ! It’s really a tri fuel yup you can use propane just buy the adapter . Propane last a lot longer than gasoline ! Get yourself 1 gallon of gasoline after 5 years put it in your stove good luck when it does not work . Get your propane 10 years later and your still good to go .
You might as well just buy a gas stove then, you can pick them up for a lot less but you'll also need to but and transport the gas, whereas I use this stove so I can avoid the hassle of transporting compressed gas. Further to this, there are plenty of instances where these stoves have been passed down generation after generation and are still functional. I agree that you probably want to be using fresh fuel but given you have such good control over how much you need and use, you're unlikely to have much laying around to go bad. ~ Ben
Get your campfuel, Coleman, Shellite, Crown, in the metal can and it will keep just as well a propane. I just tapped an unopened can from the 1960s. Smelled fine, burned fine. I bought a case of Coleman Premium Blend fuel in the red plastic bottles that was 75 percent off on clearance. I shelved it for a couple of years in my garage. Went to get a bottle and they were all empty. Gotta use metal cans.
To much hassle in using this stove / burner! Looks like a primitive technology. There must be much efficient and user friendly gas stoves available in the market
Once set up I'd say an LPG gas stove is easier to light and use, but this stove eliminates the need for a heavy gas bottle. For me, I'd rather spend the extra few minutes lighting my stove than securing my gas bottle to my car. ~ Ben
Yes they can. No conversion necessary. Look for the lowest octane ethanol free unleaded gasoline you can find. It will burn any gasoline but the low octane stuff has fewer chemicals added to it. The original Coleman stoves ran on auto gas and Coleman even sold/included a siphon pump to extract your stove fuel from your car. Then along came tetraethyl lead. Lead isn't in much gasoline anymore. 100 low lead aviation gasoline is all that I'm aware of in the U.S, "Dual Fuel" stoves are, in my opinion, a marketing gimmick to get folks to buy new stoves in a market already saturated with their older stoves that last for generations. I've taken them all apart and there isn't any real difference I can see other than the paint scheme. I've worked on hundreds of them. It WILL give you more carbon deposits in the generator, but not a lot more. But I cannot attest to the quality of gasoline in your locality. U.S. gasoline is crap compared to many places in the world, but I'm sure it's better than some others. You can buy a LOT of generators for what you save in fuel cost. I highly recommend that you store the tanks dry if you use auto gasoline no matter what stove you use. Pump gasoline does not store well. Generators can be cleaned and serviced to run pretty easily. You can get many years out of them if you clean them.
Just ordered one. I’m 58 and have such good memories of these from 1970s Boy Scout days. Our Marine Corps stoves were based on this rugged basic design.
I hope to have mine for may years to come. ~ Ben
The little lever when up actually is letting in a combination of fuel and air mixed from inside the tank. This helps vaporize the fuel when cold. When you put the lever down after warm, it’s actually going to 100% fuel flow from the tank. At this point you should pump again, since you used a lot of your pumped air during the start.
Thanks, Corran, I learnt this after having filmed the video, I never put much through into what the lever actually did. ~ Ben
I have 4 of these stoves 2 425's and 2 413's hade them for over 35 years and they work perfectly. You simply cannot get a better made stove. They cook perfect and if you have the Coleman oven your all set.
I have actually made loaf of bread and it baked amazingly well. In the middle of a forest homemade bread. I'll tell you life could not get any better that day. Great video and good educational content 👍
Thanks so much for your feedback! That's a great real life endorsement right there.
~ Lauren
I got one in my garage that we used as kids. Will try to get it back working this spring.
i've been using these stoves since i was a child in the early 1970's, they are extremely reliable and as long as you use a clean-burning fuel you will never need any spare replacement parts. but, if you do somehow manage to clog the generator you don't have to replace it, it can be taken apart and cleaned using a wire brush to clean the long fuel control needle and a properly-sized long drill bit to clean out the generator tube. you can burn kerosene in these stoves but you will have to preheat the generator tube with alcohol placed on the burner top or by using a small blowtorch to get it to light, and you will have to clean out the generator tube more often. a common complaint is that the pump will not build pressure, this is easily fixed by removing the pump and lubricating the pump cup with oil.
Thanks for your feedback, marzsit, I love how maintainable these stove are, makes for a long term investment. ~ Ben
I've been using these stoves for 30 years. Love them! Greetings from the US!
If you take care of them they can last a lifetime, I've heard!
~ Lauren
Had mine for over 20 years on the recommendation of mates who have had them even longer. A quality and uniquely designed bit of gear - it will outlast me
With a little care and maintenance I can't see mine failing in my lifetime, Phil, definitely a worthwhile investment. ~ Ben
That was a really good video! I have 2 of these Coleman's. No, they don't burn as hot or cook as fast as some of the other stoves. But, there is just something to them. You either prefer them or you don't. My 2 burner I got from my grandfather when I was 15. He bought it in 1972. 43 years later, I'm still using it. I mainly use it when I'm winter tent camping out of my truck. Tailgate works great as a table for it. I also have one that I bought back in my mid 20's at a yard sale for $30, that's a 3 burner. For the last about 25 or 30 years I've had 2 campers and now a travel trailer and that's where I keep the 3 burner. I do big breakfasts and it's nice to have that 3rd burner.
TIP for lighting them. Put about 2 cap fulls of fuel right in the center of the burner after you put the tank on. Light that fuel and let it heat up the tube some before you open the valve and lighting it. It helps to keep the inside and the tip of the tube a litter cleaner. Preheat it.
I love that these stoves always seem to come with a story involving generations of owners, I hope mine will be passed down many times over. Thanks for your tip re lighting, I'll give that a try next time I'm using it, which should be soon... fingers crossed. ~ Ben
I've used one of these for over 20 years, they are great, work well in the high country in winter where butane stoves struggle with the cold. I also use a whisper lite MSR stove when motorcycle touring, same principle, shelllite is clean and easy.
Great feedback thanks, srowlandson. I also have a Whisperlite for my hiking adventures, I struggle with the thought of going back to gas. ~ Ben
Motorcycle touring. Man that sounds like fun.
Coleman Dual-Fuel Stoves are the best on the market, and with a simple adapter, can run propane as well. I'll admit, they're a little temperamental at times, and will often give you an attitude while warming up, but there is no replacing the enjoyment from using one. I own three, and my main cooker is from 1977. Still works like new. All the spare parts are readily available & inexpensive here in the US.
Well said, Korey, I love using my dual fuel stove. ~ Ben
My favourite stove as well. Dependable, great temperature control, lightweight (albeit a little voluminous). Been using one for over 20 yrs. Funnel also incorporates a filter.
Lots of long term fans of this stove, Martin, I hope to still be using mine in 20 years. ~ Ben
I just ordered one because this type of Coleman stove was the best thing available when I was a kid in America and I’m 63 now! Plus, I hate having to depend on propane bottles when I can take fuel out of my vehicle in a pinch. Looking forward to getting it. Thanks for sharing, mate!😊
No worries! They're definitely an oldie but a goodie
~ Lauren
I have been preparing for long term shortages, I have been considering this particular stove. This video has convinced me that this will be in my inventory. Thank you...
Happy to help! Enjoy your prepping
~ Lauren
great demonstration.
I just bought a model 431 for 20.00 Canadian and the after washing it out with brake clean i bought a liter of Coleman fuel for 22 bucks ! My new to me stove is 42 years old and has obviously been dropped a lot. but is working wonderfully. So I went to the Coleman forums and I see that I can use white gas , unleaded gas currently 1.76 a liter , and kerosene 3.78 liters for 18.00 with the caveat that it needs cleaning a bit more.
Love hearing these stories of old stoves given new life!
~ Lauren
I had this same stove for 4 years. I use it about 12-16 times a year for camping in Alaska. I love. It would be my emergency stove If need be.
Great feedback thanks, Keegon, I can't imagine an LPG stove would perform well in the cold of Alaska. ~ Ben
That's exactly why I got this one. If I have to get fuel I can save in it from my car. People are relying on the butane, they're limited on how many tanks they have or if stores run out of them.
@@SnowysOutdoors I’ll keep that in mind if I use it in the winter.
I love these stoves and just picked up a 1979 425e duel burner that was just lit and tested by the owner, it is brand new almost. Also bought a Chinese knock of single burner for $37.00 and it works real good also. It sounds like you are on the airport flight line with a jet plan next to you but I like it. Plus I love the reaction of campers next to me in the morning.
What a score! I love how gear like this seem bomb proof and timeless.
~ Lauren
That was a top-notch demonstration and very well explained. Thank you so much for taking the time and going to the trouble of educating the viewers. I will be purchasing this stove in a couple of days. Thanks again and stay safe.
I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for the feedback. ~ Ben
Dual fuel is the best.
Have ditched all my old LPG stoves and gone completely dual fuel - even using my lanterns (hate LED light).
In the high country, dual fuel kills LGP in terms of heat output.
An interesting alternative is two single burner Coleman 533s set up under a stand. That way you have essentially the same output, same fuel source (and operating system), but independent heat control and can be spaced further apart to better deal with pan sizes etc. Just need to make a wind break and Bob's ya uncle.
I did consider that setup too, N Noddy, not as stable but more compact and quite versatile. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Not to mention the 533 has been discontinued
@@jarrahfitzgerald2752 just crazy.
Thanks Ben, you guys did a podcast on cooking a few months back and literally pushed me on a new stove buying journey. I've spent about a month debating whether to get the hyperflame or the dual fuel. Long story short I decided to get the dual fuel and if I don't like it, I'll sell it on marketplace and buy the hyperflame
If I was a betting man, my money would be on you keeping the stove, EveryDayMountainGuy Geoffo. ~ Ben
I got both, in the end I use my Kmart stove most of the time, dual fuel stove leak abit so don’t over fill it
@@szejim1757 Never had one leak, I've got them dating back to the 50s. Make sure you're tightening the fuel cap all the way.
Great video! I converted to white gas stoves about 11years ago and haven't regretted doing so. My ultralight backpacking stove is a supremely powerful Soto Muka which I'm convinced burns as hot as the sun.😉 My other backpacking stove that I mostly use car camping is a Coleman Naphtha 533. My main "big" stove is the 424 and love every single one of them. No matter how long they sit around they light up every time. Cherrs!
Thanks! Love the Soto Muka, its a great stove.
~ Lauren
Picked one up for 90 bucks at a second hand shop. Works great easy to use and wind doesnt effect it. I use a usb recharchable bbq spark lighter, much easier than matches. The only complaint id say with mine is its a bit small for two fry pans. I have smaller model tho. Great bits of camping gear, and built solid asf
90 buck, what a bargain! ~ Ben
The lighting lever is actually the opposite of a choke. It won't burn extra fuel. It will deplete extra air, and pretty fast. Turn it down as soon as it's warmed up(or 1 minute after lighting)
The key to clean, safe, flare free, eyebrow conserving running with these it to FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS printed on the lid EXACTLY as they are written. It SAYS to QUICKLY open the valve at least 2 full turns FOR A REASON. If you FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS printed on the lid, you WON"T have yellow flames hardly at all, and the stove will be ready to cook faster without the black soot you have on your grate and pots.
If anyone wants the reason or a detailed explanation of the operation of the instant lighting theory of operation, let me know.
For now, suffice to say that plenty of pressure and high flow rate are your friends. Use them.
QUICKLY opening the valve at least 2 full revolutions achieves adequate flow for good fuel atomization so you don't flood the generator with liquid fuel.
Pro tip: Older stoves called for wide open, but 2 revs is usually plenty. Wide open meets the "at least 2 full turns" requirement.
Lots of pressure means high velocity air pick up and atomizes the fuel better. This is why the INSTRUCTIONS ON THE LID tell you to pump approximately 35 full strokes.
Pro tips: This assumes a full tank of fuel. If there is less fuel in the tank pump it more. You cannot over pressurize these tanks with the built in pump. The pump will produce about 40psi max. The tanks are built to withstand 500 psi. Older manuals tell you to start pumping additional pressure as soon as it lights to maintain good pressure during generator warm up. This still works on these as well.
Low pressure and partially opened valves lead to generator flooding, yellow flames, soot, and much longer warm up times. You should be able to be fully warmed up and ready to cook in a minute or less.
FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS and see what you think. I believe you will be pleasantly surprised. Then with practice, you can develop a feel for how it works.
Pro tip: Watch the flame during the warm up process. At some point the blue flames will start pulsing and dancing away from the burner rings. This is when the generator is hot, generating gas, and ready to cook. It's usually way less than a full minute but go with the instructions if you don't want to experiment.
Turn the lighting lever down and enjoy.
Add pressure when you notice the flame getting weaker as needed.
Pro tip: To shut down, older manuals called for turning the lighting lever up again and letting it burn for a minute or when the flames started jumping off the burner indicating a lean condition before closing the main valve. This purges the generator of most of the liquid fuel so it didn't continue to leak out of the gas tip in transport or storage.
I hope someone finds this useful.
Thanks for the tips, you sound quite knowledgeable on the topic. ~ Ben
I bought this one today for 12$ in goodwill store in excellent condition
Bargain! ~ Ben
I bought one of these in the 90s and ran it on unleaded petrol. It was very fussy and blocked farly quickly. The two burners were not independent of each other so that flame adjustment was a bit hit and miss. I took it back for an exchange, but found the replacement was just as unreliable so took that back and got a refund. I replaced it with a double burner gas stove with a grill. Much bulkier, but works reliably!
Haven't ever heard from anyone who didn't love these stoves - thanks for the feedback.
~ Lauren
I bought 2 coleman 533 dual fuel stoves and a oztrail grill stand, I place the two 533 under the grill and use that to place the pans etc works well, and I fit my entire kitchen into 32l plastic tub and love not carrying gas.
This is exactly what I was considering, Chris, but I went with the 414 instead. Sounds like an awesome compact setup. ~ Ben
I have found that Shellite (white fuel) has become stupidly expensive. I changed my fuel to regular unleaded at a tenth of the cost. It burns the same, doesn't smell and is sooooo cheap to run. I reckon I could carry a replacement generator for a long trip to not have to clean one mid trip.I have an off road caravan with LPG cooker. This is an alternative reliable outdoor cooker in case one system dies.I also love that you have to know what you are doing. Old school. Purist camping...
Thanks for your feedback, fuel choice is definitely a personal one. Glad that works for you!
~ Lauren
thanks. going camping. my bro just got me one for my bday. gonna use it and my whisper light to cook up sun grub.
I love my powerhouse stove. ~ Ben
Pair these with a 2-sided griddle, and you got a set-up anywhere grill and griddle. Take the kids to the park and hamburgers and hotdogs until they pop. Makes family outings way easier. I use a 426D (3 burner) I got second-hand and rebuit. Keep them clean and maintained about once a year, and you'll be handing these things down to your grandkids.
Thanks for your feedback, The Ed, I love my Powerhouse stove and hope my kids will be using the same stove in years to come. ~ Ben
Great prepping stove same for the smaller peak 1, you can always find petrol
Good one, Kevin, no need to monitor the certification dates on your gas bottles too. ~ Ben
These things are the nuts.
I love mine, Old Bloke, I'll never go back to gas. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Me too.
I went and bought the hot plate that goes with it as well and have to say that I'm not as impressed with it.
I use a cast iron frypan on mine now mostly and it's great.
I've cooked up some pretty impressive feeds out in the sticks on this thing.
Had mine for close to 25 years and still going strong.
Even with old (10yrs old) fuel in it, a quick flush out and it fires up.
Only drama I've had: after a cold night, the o-rings in the pump will shrink and won't build any pressure. Had to wave it over a struck match to get the rubber too expand to seal again.
Must have been a cold night, Scott, I hope I'm still using mine in 25 years time. ~ Ben
The lever is not a choke, pointing up in the start position it allows flammable vapour from the top of the tank to flow through to light and preheat generator. Flipped down after preheat allows liquid fuel through from bottom of tank. In the up position burning vapour it loses pressure quickly, that’s why you need to pump a few more times. Cheers
That makes a whole lot of sense, Steeno, thanks for your input here. I've never pulled the generator apart to see what it does, so just made some assumptions. A quick Google search would have answered my question though. Cheers! ~ Ben
Agree-great stove....I've had one (not the same one) for 35 years I reckon
35 Years! So far you're in the lead for longest timeframe, Peter. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors there's a downside Ben!
Great video, clear and helpful. Providing the necessary information. Thank you!
I'm glad it was helpful, Luca. ~ Ben
I had one of these for over 25 years and it was just great. The only problem I found with them was that you could not get spare parts and in the end stopped using it because I could not obtain a simple part to keep it running (the rest of the stove was fine).
There are lots of people who have been using their Powerhouse stoves for 20+ years, Con, thanks for your feedback. As far as I am aware we can still get all the parts, if you are in Australia you can always get in touch (www.snowys.com.au/contact-us) and let us know what you need, we'll look into it for you. ~ Ben
If you're in the US, you can order virtually every part for this stove online.
I pick these up at garage sales whenever I see them, ive got maybe 30? I don't think I've even spent $100 total on them, awesome little stoves, I just get a gallon can of white gas from a big box store, lasts most of the year camping.
Wow, these might be worth a bit one day, Tim, don't quote me on this but I think Coleman have stopped making them. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors nope you can get them brand new for $150 i don't think they will ever stop making them!
@@timheilig6091 I hope they don't stop making them, Tim, I've just heard a few rumours here and there for some time now. Fingers crossed they don't come true. ~ Ben
Use one for years best bit of kit the best up side is you can always get fuel night or day my mate did set the whole thing on fire but put it out clean it up worked fine after i have always used petrol in it.( DO NOT SWITCH ON FULL AND THEN GET YOUR MATCHES ) like he did lol.
Sounds like he'd be lucky to keep his eyebrows!
~ Lauren
u r good at explaining your presentation & your speed of talking is just right...
Thanks for the kudos. ~ Ben
Used one for well over two decades, maybe 25 years ago (last used). Very good when new, they tend to take more and more maintenance, plus they can be smelly and messy. Very reliable generally, even when sooting up they can be cleaned easily. A good option, but no longer mine...
I love that with a little bit of maintenance they last for decades, silknfeathers. For me, I love the longevity as well as not needing a gas bottle, these things outweigh the little bit of smell for me. ~ Ben
i picked one up for free on junk day ppl put it out in rubish works great
Nice score!!
~ Lauren
Been really checking out the 533 lately. One cannot have too many stoves.....
The 533 Sportster is a great stove too, I considered this to lighten my load even more but I needed a little more cooking capacity for my family which the Powerhouse provides. I reckon the 533 would be perfect for solo campers. ~ Ben
Good demonstration. You really covered all the basics. I do release the pressure in the fuel tank when I’m done cooking…. I noticed you didn’t mention that. Is there any benefit to leaving it pressurized?
I release the pressure for safety in transport but don't usually bother if it is set up ready for use. There is no benefit either way other than you don't need to repressurise from scratch each time if you don't release the pressure after use. ~ Ben
I have one of these. In the US they are the model 414.
Have heard that before, they're really popular over there apparently.
~ Lauren
Yeah I got one works great
Glad to hear it!
~ Lauren
How does the price of shellite compare to gas over the same trip? I want to get one if these but fuel price is whats slowing me down so far
Good question, I haven't compared this directly. There would be a number of variables to any experiment though i.e. type of gas stove, temperature etc, but I don't reckon there would be a big difference either way. I reckon I would have used around 4 litres of shellite over a 4 month trip. ~ Ben
I switched to using one of these stoves about a year ago and I do not regret it. It works really well, simple design, rugged, spare parts available. Butane stoves do not work well in the cold weather and LPG gas bottle refills are becoming more difficult to find once you leave the city or larger towns. Also the problem with LPG gas bottles is that it's difficult to know how much gas is left in the bottle so you need to carry an extra bottle which is more weight and space taken up. Does anyone know of a good bag that will fit this stove as I think that may be it's only negative ?
Well said, Derek, thanks for your comments.
As for a bag, I don't know of any, but we have been hunting around for something, keep an eye out on our range. ~ Ben
I always wanted one of these kinds of stoves but I'm really not sure if we are able to use it or fuel lanterns during the fire ban? I ask my local outdoor retailer no one can confirm this.
If you are in Australia, any open flame is banned on total fire ban days - this includes stoves.
Some places like National Parks also have stoves banned generally through the fire restrictions season. You'd need to check with your local authority, not a retailer.
Hope that helps.
~ Lauren
Would this also run from kero, metho etc? I have an old MSR hiking stove that operates on the same principal and you can use any liquid fuel in it, even diesel (though I haven't tried that myself).
There are other versions that will run on diesel, apsilonblue, but I don't think they are available in Australia - not currently anyway. This stove (the 414) is designed to just run on Coleman fuel/Shellite or unleaded. Kerosene is much like diesel in that it is a dirty burning fuel so that will gunk up the 414 quickly. Metho is a much less volatile fuel and is used in spirit burner stoves, I don't know of any multi-fuel stove that runs on it, in theory it just shouldn't work.
~ Ben
👋, it might sound a silly question, but when you put the tank onto the cooker, the tube goes through but what makes it seal to the burner, if youcsee what I mean. You don't look like you screw it on or anything, it just seems to go into a hole
Yep, that's all it does. I don't know exactly what happens inside the silver part that the tube goes into, but all it is doing is squirting fuel to start with, then once it is hot it starts squirting vapour. Not sure exactly how it works, but it does. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors ok, thanks for the reply 👍
The generator tube goes through the burner and fuel gets heated into vapours. burn like a gas. There is a start up leaver and one running lever goes down. Best system! Love camping with my colman duel fuel stove and lamp.
Wow! I hope they and thier fuel are available in South Africa.
I'm not sure if these are available in Africa sorry. ~ Ben
My issue is there is no easy way to drain the unused gas from the tank. You can’t just remove the cap and pour it out. So you have siphon it out which is crazy.
Any reason why you'd want to remove it? I just leave fuel in the tank when not in use. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoorsSorry, I should have specified I’m not using white gas. I’m using pump gasoline which has ethanol (absorbs water) and a pretty short shelf life. I did see another vid after I posted this where he inserted a tube through a drilled out cork and then used the pump on the tank to pump the fuel out. Great idea! Enjoyed your video too and thanks for the reply!
why use the shellite at 10 dollars a litter when unleaded petrol is 2 dollars ? is it convenience or does it burn more economically
Its the preference from a performance perspective - I think efficiency and just burns cleaner overall, meaning less maintenance for the stove overtime.
~ Lauren
Hey, I think you might have converted me but I've just checked your website and it looks like you don't stock these any more. Do you plan to restock these or is there another shop that sells them that you can recommend?
Coleman arent currently making them sorry @JoshSinnott97
They're in the process of finding a new manufacturer for all their dual fuel products.
Once they're back on the market, we will be stocking them for sure.
~ Lauren
Looks well made and sturdy. Does this type of fuel have any impact on the taste of the food from fumes or the burnt fuel?
Nothing I noticed in the food, Task. The only time I could smell the fuel was when refilling or as the stove burnt out after switching off, but when cooking it doesn't smell. ~ Ben
Shellite buns clean resulting in next to no smell or taste. If one was to use unleaded fuel in it, then ud notice more aromas n slight taste it also burns more dirty resulting in more soot. With unleaded you need to be more on top of air to fuel ratios, shellite is a little more forgiving if you dont pump the tank enough.
What Coleman lantern do you have? I have an old (from the 60s) 3 burner stove. The thing is a beast.
I use rechargeable lanterns, dx80cruiser. The old multi-fuel lanterns from Coleman were awesome but big, you get good light from more compact lithium powered units nowadays. ~ Ben
It is sad fact but a true one. The lanterns also chew through alot of fuel and aren't as easy to turn on and off as an electrical light. Sad days indeed, the classic hiss of a fuel lantern was so nice
I have two Coleman lanterns and love them to bits. Much prefer their light to LEDs which I really do not like.
The only downside is that they can be very noisey when turned up.
I have the Coleman Northstar lantern. This thing will illuminate a damn grid square. Fantastic lantern and the nice classic Coleman hiss as dx80cruser says.
what that lever does change the pick up position in the tank so after a minute or more you can feed fuel rather than fumes
Thanks for the tip. ~ Ben
Check out , The Coleman Forum, Great group with so much knowledge. they made it possible for me to get a 1962 stove working like new.
Jim B say hello if you join the group.
How does this work with gasoline/petrol?
It works the same way but will burn a little dirtier on unleaded fuel. ~ Ben
Just curious in regards to Dirty Fuel if in Unleaded, would you be able to add few ML of Fuel Doctor to the tank to clean out the line?
I'm not sure on that sorry, J P, I'd say you'd be best disassembling the generator and giving things a clean out rather than introducing additives. Furthermore, I'd recommend using Shellite all the time, it burns cleaner, easy to come across and you're less likely to have issues. ~ Ben
Hi Snowys, are you still selling these and/or spare parts? Wondering what is going on with Coleman and the entire dual fuel line up of stoves and lanterns and why are they not available anywhere anymore? Thanks
We are getting mixed information, I don't think they will be available in Australia any more, but I'm not confident enough to say whether or not they are still being manufactured. We are all for them being continued, I for one love my Powerhouse stove, and we've let Coleman know our thoughts on the matter. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Thanks Ben. I hope that’s not the case.
I love them as well. Ad my name to the list of people in Australia that definitely wants to buy another one
Where I can buy this, because Indonesia no had😢
We only ship within Australia sorry, I'm not sure where or it you can get it in Indonesia. ~ Ben
Ben are these stoves cook a meal in high winds which my gas one is useless
You can crank up the pressure in the fuel tank which helps a little with efficiency in the wind, but you will always experience lesser performance in windy conditions. A wind break will be your best solution. ~ Ben
Any plans to restock these?
Coleman currently dont have a manufacturer for their dual fuel range - so they're not available in the foreseeable future
~ Lauren
@@SnowysOutdoors That's a real shame, having done some recent trips in colder weather these would be great over the butane stoves, I would love to buy a Coleman Dual Fuel Stove and Dual Fuel Lantern, hopefully they sort their manufacturing out soon... Guess just have to try to find one used on Marketplace.
Will it run on methylated spirits?
No it won't, jetAUS, methylated spirits is an alcohol based fuel. ~ Ben
I bought this exact stove and it has a problem when simmering... It makes a big "pop", and the flame goes out... Otherwise it's great.
Maybe you've turned it down too far, Robert, my stove makes a bit of a pop after I have turned it off, and just at the stage that the fuel burns out. ~ Ben
Why i dont get s blue flame???
Could be a number of things, possible more pressure needed in the tank, make sure the generator is well warmed up before turning up the burner, or maybe your generator and/or jets need a clean. ~ Ben
Is a carry bag available?
Not right now, but I know that Blacksmith Camping Supplies are working on a canvas carry bag specifically for this stove. I don't have an eta for you sorry but I it's not too far off being available. ~ Ben
G’day David,
We’ve just released our Stove Bag, perfectly suited for the Duel Fuel Stove - blacksmithcamping.com/products/australian-made-stove-bag
Cheers, Laine
Super cheap auto has shellite for $5 a litre cheapest I've found. Cheers Steve.
Thanks for the heads up, Steve. ~ Ben
I beleave, little lever up, just vapour into tube, when hot, lever down, that then lets petrol in, ie, open hole up top, vapour, lever down, opens hole in bottom , fuel , some thing like that,
Yeah, I wish I had looked into this before we filmed the video. Lever up lets vapour in for lighting, lever down lets fuel in which turns to vapour one the generator is warmed up. Makes perfect sense when you think about it, and helps when understanding how the lighting process works. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors I learnt the hard way, :), its called having fun, :)
The little metal lever controls a little metal rod in the tank's pick up tube. When the lever is up it allows a mixture of air in the tank along with some fuel for easy lighting. After a minute or so after the generator has heated up properly, you turn the little metal lever down so just raw fuel is being delivered to the generator. When the metal rod in the pickup is turned down it blocks air from mixing with the fuel, so much higher output from the burner is accomplished. After the lever is turned down several more pumps are required to repressurize the fuel tank because some of the the air was mixed with fuel for easy lighting in the beginning.
These stoves are superior to the propane stoves in the very cold temperature because naphtha, shelllite, and unleaded gas have a much higher volatility at lower temps than propane or butane.
@@cajuncookone thanks for your insights, I love my Coleman powerhouse stove, hopefully, it's something that stays in the market. There have been numerous conversations in the industry over the years about dropping this type of cooker in favour of lpg. ~ Ben
Ok it’s not a duel fuel ! It’s really a tri fuel yup you can use propane just buy the adapter . Propane last a lot longer than gasoline ! Get yourself 1 gallon of gasoline after 5 years put it in your stove good luck when it does not work . Get your propane 10 years later and your still good to go .
You might as well just buy a gas stove then, you can pick them up for a lot less but you'll also need to but and transport the gas, whereas I use this stove so I can avoid the hassle of transporting compressed gas.
Further to this, there are plenty of instances where these stoves have been passed down generation after generation and are still functional. I agree that you probably want to be using fresh fuel but given you have such good control over how much you need and use, you're unlikely to have much laying around to go bad. ~ Ben
Get your campfuel, Coleman, Shellite, Crown, in the metal can and it will keep just as well a propane. I just tapped an unopened can from the 1960s. Smelled fine, burned fine. I bought a case of Coleman Premium Blend fuel in the red plastic bottles that was 75 percent off on clearance. I shelved it for a couple of years in my garage. Went to get a bottle and they were all empty. Gotta use metal cans.
It's just too much work for me. I think I'll just stick with my propane tank
Fair enough, I'm happy to much around a bit and do away with gas tanks... many are not. ~ Ben
الموقد ممتاز جداً ولكن غير جيد استخدام اليومي لان متعب جداً وناهيك عن الصيانه الدوريه ويجب على الون ماسك صنع موقد كهربائي 😂
لقد استخدمتها يوميًا لرحلات الدفع الرباعي الممتدة، ولكن قد لا يكون هذا هو الحال بالنسبة للجميع. ~ بن
To much hassle in using this stove / burner! Looks like a primitive technology. There must be much efficient and user friendly gas stoves available in the market
Once set up I'd say an LPG gas stove is easier to light and use, but this stove eliminates the need for a heavy gas bottle. For me, I'd rather spend the extra few minutes lighting my stove than securing my gas bottle to my car. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors but what is wrong with using a simple butane gas can? Theyre fairly lightweight no?
A man has to know his limitations!
@@theevox-q4z they are hopeless in the cold and you need to dispose of the can properly. They perform well in warm weather though. ~ Ben
@@dondonzi2627, and every man surely has his limitations. ~ Ben
Can a regular old coleman be converted to burn gasoline? Different jet perhaps?
Not as far as we know David - that's out of the scope of what we can advice on
~ Lauren
Yes they can. No conversion necessary. Look for the lowest octane ethanol free unleaded gasoline you can find. It will burn any gasoline but the low octane stuff has fewer chemicals added to it. The original Coleman stoves ran on auto gas and Coleman even sold/included a siphon pump to extract your stove fuel from your car. Then along came tetraethyl lead. Lead isn't in much gasoline anymore. 100 low lead aviation gasoline is all that I'm aware of in the U.S,
"Dual Fuel" stoves are, in my opinion, a marketing gimmick to get folks to buy new stoves in a market already saturated with their older stoves that last for generations. I've taken them all apart and there isn't any real difference I can see other than the paint scheme. I've worked on hundreds of them.
It WILL give you more carbon deposits in the generator, but not a lot more. But I cannot attest to the quality of gasoline in your locality. U.S. gasoline is crap compared to many places in the world, but I'm sure it's better than some others. You can buy a LOT of generators for what you save in fuel cost. I highly recommend that you store the tanks dry if you use auto gasoline no matter what stove you use. Pump gasoline does not store well.
Generators can be cleaned and serviced to run pretty easily. You can get many years out of them if you clean them.