The Ideology of Mr. House | Fallout: New Vegas
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- In which I talk about a 10 year old game using things I vaguely remember from my undergrad modules on human development!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro Gag
0:29 - Introduction
5:20 - The Issue With the NCR
15:02 - Enter Mr. House
19:41 - The Ideology of Mr. House
31:13 - Progress for who, though?
36:00 - Old World Blues
41:10 - The Apocalypse (Or, How To Save Democracy)
47:05 - Endcards
References:
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Prison Notebooks: www.marxists.org/archive/gram...
Modernism and Totalitarianism: link.springer.com/book/10.105...
The 'Developmental State' and Economic Development: www.e-ir.info/pdf/488
Systemic Vulnerability: sci-hub.se/doi.org/10...
Creating Malaysia: sci-hub.se/doi.org/10...
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Management of Success (Singapore): books.google.co.uk/books?id=t...
Freedom House Report: www.justice.gov/eoir/page/fil...
Singapore's Soft Repression: thediplomat.com/2015/02/soft-...
Singapore RSF: rsf.org/en/singapore
Our World In Data: ourworldindata.org/country/si...
Challenging the Dogma of Free Trade: www.nytimes.com/2002/02/09/ar...
Corruption Perception Index: www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2...
Challenge to Liberal Democracy: www.rse.org.uk/wp-content/upl...
Detainment of Uighurs: www.buzzfeednews.com/article/...
Amnesty International: www.amnesty.org/en/countries/...
HRW: www.hrw.org/world-report/2019...
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Economics for the Many: www.versobooks.com/books/3031...
TL Green: web.archive.org/web/200508270...
Accumulation of Capital: www.marxists.org/archive/luxe...
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Podcast Bean: praxiscast.podbean.com/e/epis...
Spatial Fix: publishup.uni-potsdam.de/opus...
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Wider Reading:
Global Shift: Mapping the Changing Contours of the World Economy (2014) - Peter Dickens
Spaces of Global Capital (2019) - David Harvey
Towards a Democratic Developmental State (2006) - Gordon White
(core.ac.uk/download/pdf/28604...) - เกม
“WHY DID YOU KILL PRESIDENT KIMBALL????”
“uhh he tried to make me pay taxes”
“understandable”
yeah completely correct democracy is a soft variant of communism and taxation is theft.
Taxation is a mechanism for the mass mobilization of resources. Any government needs a collection of the citizen's power, namely wealth, to actually do anything. State run companies take the wealth of citizens in profits skimmed off trade for material services, which are sometimes easier to accept than income tax filings.
@@yoloman3607 Don’t care taxes are badd
@@yoloman3607 Don't ever try and reason with Libertarians, you cant. They believe in a fantasy where everyone just gets along based on mutual self interest, its absolute tripe.
@@tallgeese3w Remember the real life Galt's Gulch lmao, turned into a shithole in just 2 years
The worst effect of New Vegas's rushed development was the removal of the Followers as a major faction in the main quest.
I would argue that it's more of a shame that we lost the chance to explore some legion teritory. We never get to make a first hand oppinion on life in legion society. And I feel contribted if not lead to their becoming a one note evil faction.
also the fact you cant convince house to spare the brotherhood since they cut that from his dialogue
@@pedroperez266 that wasnt because it was rushed the lines were already recorded they just thought if they made house spare the brotherhood he would become objectively good
@@dd11111 yeah, we needed some legion
@@dd11111 this always annoyed me, I had thought to have a character that goes legion on 1 play through, only to find out that 80% or so of questions are NCR quests
So you're telling me the game that allows me to get dominated by a robot named 'Fisto' has better political writing than most media today?
That's appropriate in a sense. Fiction willing to be unorthodox enough to allow sexual domination by a clunky robot would also be brave enough to seriously and deeply write about politics.
Yes. Because back then people had more messages to tell than "ORANGE MAN BAD".
@@HolyknightVader999bro what, what media besides the news does “Orange Man Bad” type stuff are you serious lol
@@Grimsly3736 Yeah, haven't heard or seen anything like that in the past few years.
It feels like the people who complain about trump parodies are actively seeking them out sometimes.
And so much more my friend
"The house always wins" is great f-ing name for a quest
A good name for almost ten of them actually
And nowadays when I see that titled all I can think of is the KILLER song of the same name by The Stupendium.
@@Patrick-it8nk SAME
Place your bets place your bets
I wouldn’t even be surprised if they chose the name “House” just so they could do that lol
Hearing mr house say "if you want to see the fate of democracy's look out the windows" fucking blows me away every time how is this game so good at dialogue
But also, you could argue the problem was the China side.
"If they weren't being absolute dicks, we wouldn't have had to bomb them"
Yeah but one can just as easily say that the view is also the fate of authoritarians, or the fate of unchecked power, or the fate of scientific innovation. It's a good line, House clearly has a talent for getting people to invest in his words, he wouldn't have been so successful in business if he couldn't. But the only reason he has such a hardon for autocracy is because he is planning to be the one at the top and he needs the Courier to make it happen.
@@johnsayles8032 I think the main argument Mr House puts forward is that regardless whether its democracy or authorcarcy, if the leaders are dumb, then the world will suffer.
Therefore he believes that he is the only leader who isn't dumb or shortsighted. He is unaging, and will be the forever wise king. And he has the history to back up this claim
A counter to that would be what if he does go mad? What if he fails? What if he just croaks when the entire society is dependent on him? There isn't a garrantee that Mr House is the perfect king, and there isn't a garrantee that he would forever stay the same.
Though tbh, the alternative of the Corrupt NCR (like for fuck sake, their best troops are defending rich ppl's cattle while recruits are dying in the mohave) and the frankly unstable legion, his promise seems quite convincing.
@@9051team he made a hell of a pitch. I was with him right up until he went, "Hey man, can you blow up this bunker full of people because they might annoy me at some point? Also no diplomacy on this LOL".
I cant help but chuckle every time I hear it. It's so perfect. Delivery is on point, there are actual gigantic windows to look out of, and it makes me understand Mr House on a degree seldom lended to villains. I do think he's a Villain, but the fact that you won't look insane if you doubt that is a true achievement
Ulysess: They cling to the old world
Me: Bro, you wear the old US flag on your back
Ulysess: Listen here you little shit...
I love the fact that if you side with House, the version of your Courier Duster is cosmetically the same as Ulysses' Duster. Talk about hypocrisy
It's even pointed out in Old World Blues by Christine.
If you are genuinely interested, Ulysses actually talks about this with Christine. He doesnt want to follow in past America's footsteps as they lead to the world we have today, a wasteland. But, he has heard the idea of America not being some role model or Righteous government but, rather an idea. The idea of freedom and stability through cooperation, which he saw in the community of The Divide before that fateful package was delivered. The Divide linked the communities of the Legion and NCR, 2 sworn enemies able to create a middle ground in this independent community.
Joshua graham looks on from the distance and loads his .45 with religious intent
@@spider-spectre That actually clears up a lot of things, thanks.
"Is it really so hard not to engage in cannibalism?"
Sometimes a feller's gotta eat a feller
House: I give you authorization to deal with the White Glove Society cannibals as you see fit.
Courier: Hold on. Why the fuck am I doin' all the work. Now come on Housey......ass jerky dont make itself!
free range, grass fed prions
He’s got a fair point, when you’re running the only gourmet restaurant in the world is it really hard to resist eating people and just have a nice steak
@@MrTHEMONEEMAKER This is where it boils down to opinion. Because what if there is the kind of (fucked up) person who considers human meat to be gourmet?
As an example I can ask someone who has become used to steak dinners, is it really so hard to put the steaks back in the fridge and have beef burgers instead? Or how about a veggie burger? For someone who has become accustomed to steak dinners, a couple of beef burgers aint gonna cut it when you know you can pull some steaks out of the fridge instead. Why would they ever deny themselves the food they have become accustomed to?
As disgusting as it may seem, for those who have become accustomed to human meat and considers it gourmet, thats the justification. You dont have to agree with it, you just have to see it from their point of view to understand it. House is in a position where he doesn't feel he has to consider the points of view of others, hence why he has the problems with his staff that he has. If he'd thought about it on a deeper level, he wouldn't have employed cannibals to begin with, he should have known what it was going to lead to. I find that a lot with House's thinking. He's not very good at the meta level. There are lots of other areas in which he hasn't thought deeply enough. I wont go into them now unless pressed.
@@stevebell4853 I see your point and counter with this. If it was a single kind of meal that would help explain some frustration, but this is a place with variety. As for house considering points of view, I have a little doubt he didn’t consider what they were prior to their contract, which was something they needed to consider as well since both parties needed to agree to it, and as for it being a problem it’s solely Mortimer who is causing the issue since the others aren’t interested in returning to the old ways and he needs to trick the rest in order to convince them in the beyond the beef quest
Fallout is essentially is “these are not your good or bad options. Theses are your only options”
Fallout 3 and 4 especially lean into this.
Examples:
Fallout 4: You cannot say No to a quest because then all dialogue with that person stops until you do the quest.
Fallout 3: You cannot help the Enclave. You will die if you try to. They cannot be reasoned with.
@@yazidefirenze unfortunately that sentiment doesn’t carry over so much when it comes to the overarching plots of 3 and 4.
@@ar6543 Unfortunately
@@yazidefirenzethat's just lack of player choice and bad writing lol.
@@thedigitalrealm7155 They are also your only options
Honestly I always liked the independent endings because I like to roleplay as mad mailman going into a power trip.
I hate how the game criticizes you for going independent. It’s like the only ending that isn’t meant to be canon. House calls it a vanity project and the dialogue kinda applies to the player more than the courier lol
@@jon1819 Yea personally think that the independent Vegas wasn't really flushed out as much as it needed as the actions you take with the followers,boomer or other factions to supply or better them in sidequests doesn't really impact the ending slides outside of the NCR ending.
That is my exact approach
my legion playthrough was my character was just insane and wanted to be as good with a sword as possible and fight at every second
This guy gives off a weird vibe. Probably paid off by CCP
19:03 House sells purified water at 5 caps per gallon when the standard is 10 caps per bottle (of aprox. 500ml). There's 3785ml in a US gallon, divided by 500ml in a Fallout water bottle is 7.56, meaning that House is selling 7 1/2 times more water at half the price of the wasteland standard. With that price, he easily underbids ever water caravan in the NCR.
@@theoneandonlysoupemporium The only time I enjoy mathematics is when I'm calculating random things in videogames. How strange.
this is very interesting but it reminds me of the business practice of always undercutting the competition until there is no competition in order to raise the prices. since house is not that interested in this kind of pettiness i don't think it's the case but it is an interesting concept
@@Alex_FRD that is how science works in real life calculating random shit make new feature
What's the wasteland average price for water?
@@lifeisgood5619 and desert
My biggest issue with Caesar is how he is utterly anachronistic in how he sees Rome, whose autocracy was under the guise of a meritocratic republic. Romans had representatives, freedoms if they were Citizens, and sold their conquests as "Civilizing" barbarians and Romanizing them. Caesars legion is a model of Imperial Era Roman dictatorship, but those dictators were still backed by a civic membership while the Legion is a slave-state.
I think that will be another argument against returning to the past. Because in the end you will create a twisted and distorted version of it that is far removed from the initial thing.
Yeah when you think about it, Ancient Rome is more similar to the NCR than it is to the legion, to an extent of course
To play Devil's advocate, while well read I don't think there were a lot of peer reviewed books left in the wasteland so Caesar could simply not know, still a sociopath either way
Remember the America in the fallout world and suddenly this one minded view makes sense. Those were the only books allowed to be printed, and the only ones that survived
If you look at character stats. Caesar has a low int. He is a pseudo-intellect. He is only good at good at talking shit. Lol
3:04 Can I just mark the Humor in this situation? Like imagine you’re Caesar, sitting on your throne guarded and the dude who you sent to destroy a shed in your backyard comes in with power armour and shoots a missile at you.
While you’re complaining about democracy, I’m floating in space on one of House’s colony ships.
...uploaded to a server
SOMA vibes
Look at him he just vibin' in his hibernation chamber
Good luck with the aliens.
I'd be the first to volunteer to be placed in a pod like the one Dr. Stanislaus had in F3 while flying through space on Mr. House's spaceship, even if im nothing more then biological battery. X amount of years in a simulation is better then being food for cazadores, nightstalker, super mutants, centaurs, fire ants, radscorpions, fucktoys for fiends, or just generally speaking living in a rubble hoping next day there won't be a drugged up idiot at the next corner shooting mini nukes at us for fun.
@@Corty_ the gamer life
Caesar: the wastleland needs something new
Also Caesar: creates an ideology based on an idea from 2000+ years ago
Caesar: Democracy's infighting and corruption caused it to selfdestruct.
Also Caesar: Creates an empire on the model of an empire where infighting and corruption were major causes of its downfall.
Well, he does have a brain tumor.
@@brassmoth7463 But which lasted over a 1000 years. So yeah, it does have that going for it.
@@chanakyalankela8200 That is a fair point.
@@chanakyalankela8200 Rome took almost half a millenia to consolidate Italy alone , ,the legion took 40 years at most, when Caesar dies , the tribes will revert to infighting , it's more like Alexander's empire
Always hated how Soup says House had the chance to save the world or Vegas and chose Vegas. How? He clearly lays out how he was barely able to defend Vegas by itself, to the point that he had to take the 38’s reactor offline to stop a meltdown, and he states if asked that he spent the next 60-80 years (can’t remember which) in a “veritable coma”
i suppose he was talking about different avenues of "saving" - House tried to preserve Vegas via his robots and cannons and other 'physically militaristic' resources - they were scarce (he didn't have OS upgrade), but he did what he could with what he got. He couldn't, of course, do the same to the whole world - taking it at gun point, leading it to the world without a nuclear armageddon. But he could, arguably, use his economical and political power to stop The Great War the old fashioned way - through deals and diplomacy, him being one of the richest powers on Earth. But he didn't. He let the world burn, ridding himself of old competitors - only to face NCR and the Legion in the future
Running a profitable business almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
@@winrope4814 Im sorry, but no one person has ever been influential enough with money alone, not direct political power, to stop a war. Especially not one of a worldwide and nuclear scale. It’s just not how history works. Maybe House could have moved the needle, bought a few more days, but even with the Mark II OS he still wouldn’t be able to save the world. It’s an unrealistic expectation
@@winrope4814 nope, the problem was that the world of Fallout would have the Great War happen no matter what. No technology, no diplomacy, just a spark or two away from atomic annihilation. House actually crunched the numbers and saw that the Great War was indefinitely going to happen. He was literally off by a day.
A. Day.
@@TheTrueAdeptthats the thing, if Cold Fusion had been micro (instead of Hot Fusion which is in microfusion cells) can produce basically an infinite amount of electricity, for ever. It would not take more than a handful of these things to solve all global power problems. Which means that no one needs to buy more then one, which means that, in other words, Poseidon energy is powerless. That oil company was probably the cause of the apocalypse
But the US and China had both spent decades doubling down. Imagine if the bombs didnt drop and politicians had to deal with the fact that they voted for the payment and construction of the now obsolete vaults? What do we do with all of our military infrastructure, rampant inflation and hundred of thousands of now jobless service men? It would be a political and economic collapse that would probably see heads roll - Mr. House included.
The founders of Vault-Tec new exactly what they were doing with that organization - they WERE going to get the war they wanted
House ran a massive international company, he could’ve saved the world
I just looked something up. The Independant ending only says the things about anarchy if you don't upgrade the sequritrons. If you upgrade them it clearly says that any Chaos was ended quickly and with minimal loss of life. There are two Independant endings.
yeah he used that to completely ignore the yes man route, likely because he is lazy.
@@TooManyBongos Tbf this video itself is the biggest argument for Independent Vegas despite him (And seemingly everyone else too) shittalking it because yes man assertive and "chaos". The game itself wants to nudge you towards Independent Vegas with the Westside and Followers stuff. And with the Lonesome Road DLC especially pushing you towards doing that since the Courier destroyed a thriving independent community before the game by accident.
i honestly assumed he said that just to sound impartial, because what he says about the major factions in the OWB segment comes off as an endorsement.
It's a weak ending though, pretty much dooming Vegas to be taken over by any faction strong enough to do so. Hell, the entire game is about how 2 different factions are strong enough to take over Vegas. Another Legion rolls up, and without the courier, Vegas is doomed.
@@hawkecrail5186 But the Securatrons are strong enough to fight both factions at the same time with their upgrade. If that was not the case than Houses ending wouldn't be possible either.
When you erect a space faring empire intent on colonizing the universe just to escape taxes.
Knowing the IRS they will still find a way to tax them.
@@brandonvelde5774 not if my MC NUKES have any thing say and I DO
@@duckdickerson9494 MR HOUSE DON'T DO IT NO!!!
Enclave here, why do you not pay your taxes?
I misread that as "space fairy" and for one hallucinatory second I was imagining something... *very* different ;-;
It's funny because, on my first playthrough I sided with Mr. House because he gave me a job and the other three factions were like "First things first, betray and murder your boss" And.... I just plain didn't. I never cared about what was "best for the Mojave", I just enjoyed the cushy gig and position of absolute power I ended up with personally. All the conflicting ideologies were for the ideologues, I was a pure mercenary. And to be honest, even after finishing the other three factions' stories on subsequent playthroughs with differently motivated characters, I still feel like the Mr. House story is the most plausible one, not from a "Here's why his plan would work" standpoint, but from a "This is the most likely course of action the Courier would probably do" - i.e. treat it like a job.
They where the ones who caused genocide for the job after all
That... is actually true, House its always the best option for the man who lives for himself... and most of us (humans) do
Bruh this is probably what I'd do in the couriers situation. House gives me a PENTHOUSE as long as I go and TALK TO PEOPLE? man. The good wasteland life.
@@bighex5340 Not just a penthouse, the most prestigious penthouse in the wasteland. To go along with the most prestigious job in the wasteland, being the personal representative, and 'fixer', for Mr. House. House is giving you the best possible position, simply because you are capable and reliable. He doesn't care what you get up to in your free time, and he doesn't even seem to care much if you go off doing other things while your out doing things for him, as long as you get him results. Why? Because while the other factions are just playing the game, House is playing to win.
Oh, sure, Caesar will give you power. But it comes under his brutal regime. The NCR will gives you nothing beyond the warm fuzzy feeling of helping them put the Mojave under the control of their mindless bureaucracy. House gives you true freedom and true power. And who knows? Maybe in time, you'll be able to join him in immortality as well.
Now this to me seems like an appealing path to me. I personally at first glance would side with the NCR. I really have to explore New Vegas for myself sometime.
About the Divide: Moira Brown in FO3 has a surprisingly stunning line about her reasons for the Survival Guide.
She makes the analogy of the world with a broken glass. Try what you might, it wont be the same. But maybe you could make something new out of it.
Like melt it down and make a new glass that is just like an old one? Sounds to me like "you need radical measures" rather than "maybe time to move on".
That is quite nice.
I dont like how nonsensical the advice of say, scavenging supermarkets in the survival guide is, but that is a nice line.
One note about Westside: it’s not self sufficient. The water used to grow crops is secretly being diverted from the NCR Sharecropper Farms, causing a shortage. I don’t think this undercuts your argument, just adds complexity. One cannot go off and build a better world in isolation; limited resources will always force conflicts between new and extant systems that must be resolved.
(For the record I didn’t turn Anderson in, though the ideal solutions seems a bit simpler if politically challenged - reduce sharecrop production by whatever amount Westside produces. The farms fueling and maintained by a local community are going to be more beneficial to the people of New Vegas than a hyper controlled NCR system run by western transplants with few connections to the community)
"You're laughing. You didn't pay taxes and you're laughing."
Basically all anti-NCR playthroughs.
"You're a woman and you're not suicidally miserable? Let's change that!"
All Legion playthroughs
@@centerflag982 Love from Kazakhstan
"Oh you liked having stability? My b!"-Every free Mojave run
you take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen
@@centerflag982 lets go
In House's defense, he didnt nuke the world and as a single individual he shouldnt be expected to have stopped the apocalypse. The fact that he managed to single-handedly save an entire city is already an astonishing feat.
I don't think anyone ever argued Mr. House's accomplishments were unimpressive or undeserving of praise. Deserving of totalitarian rule of the Mojave forever is quite a few giant leaps beyond that appreciation however :D
@@Arbaaltheundefeated The question is who else could lead humanity at that point? The NCR steps in ALL pits the old world democracy did, Caesar's Legion might become a society but they will go into the pitfalls of the NCR as well. The Enclave, even if they had enough strength are also just remnants of the old democracy world.
Mr. House is the only one who calculated for a future and is the only one capable of restoring humanity to a high tech society within a 100 years. How many thousands of years do you want humanity to go through before we even reach the half way point of what Mr. House is capable of? Remember Mr. House isn't just some machine in a dead casino, he was an inventor before the bombs fell - he already got the experience needed.
@@fosphor8920 You really should ditch the habit of upvoting your own comments... it is terribly pathetic.
@@Arbaaltheundefeated i did not upvote my own comment, 2 other people did. Tag dig sammen
@@fosphor8920 I'm not Danish... and I really have an extremely hard time believing someone would upvote you literally the same minute you reply to a thread I just necroed from five months back, unless it was coordinated or multi-account, which would be even worse. Try harder.
Speaking of Singapore, did you know Singaporean casinos don't let their own citizens in (without a fee)? The casinos are there to make profit from foreigners not themselves. If a citizen really wants to gamble they have to pay a fee carefuly calculated to be slightly cheaper than going to malaysia to gamble.
i see mr house as the guy in the friend group that always does everything himself to fix the problems because he can
Mr House: I have no interest in dictating what people do in their private time.
Also Mr House: Is it so hard not to eat people?
I mean, they signed that away, too. Contracts mean a lot to House, after all. It'd be interesting if you could renegotiate and let them eat people but only if those people agreed to be eaten, and then find some people around who would be up for it in return for some perk (wether it be money to send somewhere, lots of drugs to od on, or just a chance to kill themselves).
True dat! #libertariansareneutraloncanibalism
@@mahmud7645 I'd only add "on voluntary, rational cannibalism". Forcing someone to submit to being eaten would break NAP and manipulating a mentally unhealthy person to volunteer for it would demand the Harm principle limit the practice in some way if proper responsibility wasn't shown.
@@ryanjones_rheios
Mr House: I have no interest in dictating what people do privately.
Also Mr House: Has terms in his contracts dictating what people do privately.
@@PlebNC I can't think of any civilized society, even a very libertarian one, that doesn't have at least *restrictions* on cannibalism. There's freedom and then there's shit the fiends get up to. I guess a more fair accurate statement from House could be "I have no interest in dictating what people do privately so long as its not violent and embarrassing" but they tried to make House seem very curt and that somewhat undercuts it.
Alternatively, it could be that House doesn't care about the cannibalism directly and its more that it went against the role he was hiring them for. Like if a Disney employee got drinking schnapps in-costume. Just because its in the break-room doesn't mean its really private. In which case the White Gloves were hired to live as a new role, one that was supposed to be too high-brow for cannibalism. Which makes for an interesting question "if they Omertas did it, would he let it slide?".
Meanwhile in Fallout 4:
Minuteman: Generic Good Guys Number 248
Railroad: Literally exists for one reason and one reason only.
The Institute: The Enclave, but not.
The Brotherhood: “Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean.”
The difference between NV and 4 is that Caesar talks to you and explains his full ideas and The Institute tells you that “you wouldn’t understand”
It’s not me who wouldn’t understand it’s Bethesda who don’t understand how to write
i genuinely enjoy preston garvey, kill me if you must
@@vvaderr I shall
F4: A fun open world shooter (especially if you're into settlement building) with an incredibly mediocre story and really lack luster rpg mechanics.
That has been my opinion since launch.
@@tumei1851 Definitely. You know a game has bad RPG mechanics when the only options are:
1. Be nice
2. Be a jerk
3. Ask a question
4. Be ambivalent/sarcastic.
Plus, you can’t actually see what your character is going to say, so your hoping the dialogue is actually based on what you clicked.
One symptom of the rot within NCR is Heck Gunderson. I mean, the Player meets him at his best and reasonable, a businessman simply looking for his lost son. But if you go out to the Strip and talk to the old couple sitting on a bench in front of the station, you discover Heck Gunderson's crooked methods. Just like those anti-mutant Senators, he hires mercenaries to harass his neighbors and ruin their businesses and then swoops in and forcibly buys their lands for ridiculously cheap. To the player, Heck Gunderson is a concerned father but to everyone else, he's the villain of a western movie.
It seems like many are confused about Caesar, he wanted the legion to conquer large enough territory to become a secure hegemon through brute violence and imperialism, but after hegemony is established his plans or hope was a synthesis between NCR and Legion into something new that is not based on Imperalism or violence. Big gamble but makes sense considering real Roman history.
The Legion is one of the biggest victims of the time constraints, unfortunately. We were originally going to see much more of them, including their capital at Phoenix AZ
This is a little like Lenin saying the state would just wither away under higher-stage communism, a total handwave. You can’t acculturate people into the kind of brutality and casual cruelty that the Legion runs on and expect that the Geist will pivot that shit on a dime. Caesar wasn’t going to live long enough to see something like that through, and the only credible successor he has groomed is a guy who fucking *loves* the violence and conquering that the Legion does.
Yeah, not a lot of lore video about new vegas touch on this topics. They just jump straight into other more likeable NPC opinion (Ulysses and Joshua Graham) that Legion will just be mindlessly conquer and then falls. The thing is, both of their dialogue is just from their own perspective on the matter discussed, what they know is the old Legion and how they were always be, not the plans that Caesar have for the future.
Ulysses being just a frumentarii probably never even met Caesar. Joshua graham being obedient would likely never discuss as asking questions was not his character when he was Legate.
The only problem of Legion is that Caesar have brain tumor and that he likely wont be able to carry out his plans on revolutionizing legion culture. That he will likely die first and just leave the soldier as savage as they were, but if we cured him its pretty likely that Caesar can carry out his plans on changing the system of Legion, given how obedient their soldiers are.
"I have no interest in dictating what people do in their private time"
Frickin' fascist won't let me eat people tho
Shouldn't have signed the contract if you don't accept all clauses tho
He didn’t kill them for cannibalism, he killed them for breach of contract.
@@cavejohnson4306 which includes cannibalism
@@cavejohnson4306 He put cannibalism in the contract just because he knew it would be impossible to uphold. If you were Cannibal Johnson you'd understand
Your removing my ability to not care about the poor
Imagining Mr. House saying "Hope you like learning about Singapore!" Is hilarious.
Singaporeans: what the FUCK
@@seanchan7167 hehehe I live here
Why can I hear his voice saying that
@@simoneidson21 Elijah, you forgot to take anti-schizo pills.
Considering Fallout is a universe where semiconductors never invented and Soviet Union being way chiller than in RL, it's possible that Mr. House would reference Singapore unless there's alternate consequences; either it's fully assimilated with Malaysia or annexed into China.
Late to the party, but I recall a saying that went something like this -
There is nothing wrong with a benevolent dictator. You may replace them when they stray the path, but to reject a known superior governance is stupidity in pursuit of abstract ideals such as political freedom
House literally stopped most of the missiles fired at the region, and would have stopped more or even all of them had the platinum chip been in play the day the nukes fell.
17:50 I swear the energy and enthusiasm behind this rampage makes me laugh every time. 🤣
Fun Fact: Caps were at one point backed by water. IE if you go to Shady Sands you can exchange 1 bottle cap for 1 bottle of water. Assuming the bottles are standard 16 ounce bottles either House is giving a steep discount or there has been some severe deflation. That or differences in local/temporal scarcity.
I'm pretty sure in-game a single bottle of fresh water costs like, 30 caps. The NCR got a goddamn amazing deal out of House when it comes to water
(The water merchants were in The Hub not shady sands. This gives a pun on caps- they're 'hub caps'.)
The game where you can make that exchange was made before shrinkflation replaced 20 oz bottles with 16 oz ones. Thus it can be assumed that the bottles are 20 oz, not 16.
@@DolphyBlueDrakenow we got them 8oz mini water bottles that don't do a thing lmao
There is a cap counterfeit shack behind Vegas in the wasteland
Siding with House makes me feel Darth Vader. Like here's the guy with ten billion IQ pulling strings behind the scene and playing politicians like puppets, and you are his monster-man killing machine, a walking harbinger of annihilation that appears when the big man upstairs needs shit done and done right.
But unlike Vader you are actually treated way better and you know that House has good intentions for the Mojave.
@@kappadarwin9476 And can make you immortal! Sort of. I remember him mention comercialising his tech for people. The courier could be the first to get it after he kick starts the vegas economy! House just needs to build it in a liberty prime frame, put the courier inside of it and he gets a loyal one man army, that can operate independently outside of his remote control area to kill of anything that impedes progress!
@@akosfarkas5586 with the cybernetics you got from OW, and the monocyte breeder. You're Courier is basically Kellogg from Fallout 4, a slow aging cyborg.
Every time I wipe out the BOS for House I remember of order 66
@@HK-pq7pe And not just the Knights, but the Scribes and the Initiates, too
I've watched this video about hundreds of times(mostly because I'm a singaporean). I find it interesting how people see our country as both an extremely successful economic powerhouse while also being an authoritarian stranglehold on the liberties and the rights of people. I don't disagree, but laws and legislation don't tell the full story. We have many lgbt+ people, as well as the independent organisations to show them that they're not necessarily alone. At the same time, as a bisexual, it definitely hurts to feel like the government has almost no support for us(the marriage law change helps, but it'll be a long ass change, probably nowhere close to my generation)
Secondly, we don't just vote for the PAP because they make us. While admittedly extremely anecdotal(as in, this is just what ive heard a lot of people around me say about the PAP, although I also agree, albeit with less fervour), they're our best option. It isn't just the fact that they do all the political moving to make us vote, they show results, while the other parties feel like they're floundering about. Even with the party's controversies, they have (so far) proved that they get shit done, while also not trampling too much on our liberties as people. Again, as much as things are laws, they're not really acted on.
Thirdly, Singapore is such an outlier in the idea of developmental countries, I don't know if its a good example. I've personally wrestled with this for years, wondering if this country will eventually crumble and fall like many others or if we're stable, and god bless we are stable. But I can acknowledge that its due to so many factors running in tandem that it feels like a mary sue country. Singapore, at colonisation, was already an area already considered good for trade due to it being a port that connected India to china. It made it easier for Lee Kuan Yew to position Singapore as an ideal trade spot( by the by this isn't to say LKY wasnt influential or that anyone else could've done it, if anything him coming to power in Singapore might've been the biggest reason for Singapore's success). Singapore also is small, both in population and size. It makes it easier for a government like Singapore to keep checks of what's going on, if they want to.
This isn't a hit piece on your video, I love it. I'm someone who left Singapore because it hurt too much to feel like I wasn't welcome by not only the population, but the government. At the same time, I recognise what Singapore is. It is an anomaly which keeps its citizens alive and progressing. But as you say, progress for who? In time, we can only hope that it will be progress for everyone Singaporean, regardless of race, language or religion, and, added onto our pledge, sexual orientation and maybe more. To be honest, maybe I just wanted to ramble because I'm extremely passionate about Singapore, in any context.
Don't get me wrong, this is a well constructed and largely thought out video, but you spent half the video saying that we should move away from old world ideologies just to come to the conclusion that we should use old world ideologies. Maybe the conclusion is that it's all been done before.
But-but true communism hasnt been done before
@@MrOnay-px1jxyeah we get it. Everytime communism fails, people like you show up to say “um actchewally, that wasn’t true communism” ignoring the fact that it’s always true communism. Communism will never work. Period.
I like this video a lot too but this is a great and funny comment.
But also I kinda feel like people take New Vegas going "you have to let go and move on" and go "well then this obviously means we have to throw out fucking everything DUH" which is silly. Like, we're not gonna stop farming or smithing metal or using books and reading just because they're old world. Human nature may have ended up nuking the world, but human nature is also how we got to the (arguably) prosperous societies that existed before the bombs dropped, and regardless like how war never changes you can't just snap your fingers and change human nature.
So maybe doing something along the lines of going for an old ideology, buy making it better so it doesn't repeat the past mistakes, is more realistic than being like "IT MUST BE TOTALLY NEW IF IT ISN'T 100% ORIGINAL THEN YOU MAY AS WELL BLOW THE PLANET UP A SECOND TIME!!!!!!!!1!!!!"
@@MrOnay-px1jx haha
Whats the old quote, "it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism"?
i think it’s ironic how caesar claims he found the solution to corruption and infighting, but when he dies, his legion dissolves into exactly that, and that’s what led to the fall of the real world roman empire he based his entire political identity around.
Maybe not if he conquers Vegas; the technology used to keep House alive could most likely be repurposed for him.
@@5kN9Whoa I've never actually thought about that lol
@@5kN9 That's an interesting idea. However...
Archaeologists have found parts of a kind of early steam engine made by the ancient Greeks. It appears that when the Romans found this technology, they THREW IT IN THE SEA. There may have been an aspect to their culture that is well represented by the 'jock' uniforms of the Legion...
That is because while Caesar claims to be Caesar, he really is Sulla. It is after the Roman civil war(s) that the principate can form, not before. The Pax Romana is after the civil war, and the two triumvirates not before them.
@@FrogmortonHotchkiss I love setting back human progress by 2000 years
Imagine if Obsidian had gotten the opportunity to put everything in place they wanted to. This game would’ve been legitimately the beast piece of media ever produced.
no lmao, maybe to the nostalgia-blind fallout fanboys who turn their nose up at literally everything made after it, but people who aren't biased can see this game is meh-good at absolute best.
@@gotgunpowder go get some bitches
@@gotgunpowder no bitches
@@gotgunpowder no bitches fr
It arguably still is
30:20 - Leading in Houses "We're going to space!" speech with Sovietwave is a hilarious touch.
27:42 I know the NCR’s issues, but I never really stopped to put together how many threats they either ignore or are incapable of containing so close to their lines, those are great points and your delivery is hilarious
People: use political philosophy and its long term effect on Mojave to determine which faction is best for it while drawing parallels between the game and reality
Me: sided with Mr House because money
The great irony is that all of my caps from delivering Mr. House's snowglobes and the Platinum Chip all go towards buying implants from Dr. Usanagi, a member of the Followers.
Me: Sided with Mr. House to return the favor ("You saved me with Victor, then I'll help make your ambition a reality.")
@@ardantop132na6 thank you speak with me at the lucky 38 and we’ll discuss your reward
@@FPS_Xanamide [BARTER 99/100] You know you could raise my rewards a little?
@@ardantop132na6 hmmm I have never had a employee that not only completed but yet exceeded my expectations so spectacularly you can have access to my immortality technology with all the perks it provides and more make yourself comfortable we have much more to do
my favourite thing about Caesar is that he obviously didn't read Hegel, but someone's wrong interpretation of Hegelian dialectics.
Hegel is to Caesar what Nietzsche was to Hitler: a wrong philosophical reading used to justify incredible cruelty.
or maybe the writers are just stupid? there is literally 0 in-game indication that caesar doesnt understand immanent critique properly and the game treats his philosophy in general incredibly seriously. this is literally just fanfiction uve concocted in your head bro
and the nazis never claimed to be nietzscheans mate haha what the hell are you talking about, they just borrowed from his conception of master and slave moralities
i’m a marxist so yk i love dialectic analysis and i agree
@@lelgie601
There's no one that would criticize him except for The Courier (who is given a lot of privileges and doesn't understand philosophy) and Arcade (most of which is implied in his slavery ending slide)
And it's HIS philosophy and Hegalian Dialectic. Hegalian Dialectic was used to justify his own philosophy but that doesn't mean it's the right interpretation. You can have the completely wrong interpretation of an idea to create your own.
@@lelgie601
Which is exactly what the op said.
The criticism that house didn't protect the rest of the world is kind of batshit.
He was able to protect a place and you blame him for not stopping the nukes? He's not god.
Also communism is also an idea of the old world, you are coping.
Autoritarian socialism and libertarian socialism are not the same. Same way liberals and conservatives arent
I always saw house as "The man with the plan." and was on board to helping him make a run at that plan.
Even if he failed, the progress he made towards it would have positive knock on effects for the Mojave.
All the other factions don't have an answer to "and then what?"
The part where Mr House said "I hope you like learning about Singapore" really seals the deal for me. 😎
My favorite part was when he said its housing time and housed all over those guys
@@BloodyCrow__ "Do you mean to tell me . . . that *I'M* the House that always wins?"
very funny since public housing was the PM's major project
very funny since public housing was the PM's major project
I heard he has an autograph of Lee Kwan Yew in his cyro-pod.
If Mr. House wins, he creates the interstellar neoliberal hellscape of The Outer Worlds.
Still a better situation than fallout
@@GG_1318 MFers die of basic bitch seasonal flu in the tutorial zone of Outer Worlds. that is not a better existence than living in fallout's mojave. it's a sidegrade at best. at least most towns have a doctor that can set fractured bones and outright cure radiation poisoning in NV. as bad as dying of dehydration or getting decapitated by a deathclaw are, at least your surviving family members don't have to LITERALLY RENT YOUR GRAVE IN PERPETUITY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LINEAGES EXISTENCE.
the Outer Worlds is what a novelist in Fallout's world would write as a piece of "well things could always be worse" piece of dystopic fiction.
still havent finished it great game
Outer Worlds is ass lmao
@@henrycrabs3497 lol still had more depth than fo4 only game I play that was made after halo 3 Is day z at this point all games are ass nowadays
It's unfair to blame house for protecting the strip and not the -ENTIRE- world / United States. He had only begun development of the anti-nuke lasers that defended the strip, and would have secured the entire Mojave had he gotten the platinum chip in time. House's robots are found everywhere in the US. He was and is a man of money. If he had had the time, he would have deployed the anti-nuke lasers across the entire US if not from the simple "goodness of his heart" but the fact that having the US not destroyed would be far more profitable to him than the costs of building and setting up the lasers.
The same is to the safety of the strip compared to freeside. He only has but so many working robot sentries. He has to get into contractual obligations with three different clans of raiders to operate the strip and keep it somewhat policed beyond what his robots can do. IF he had the ability to protect freeside, he would, and most likely would given the platinum chip. Again, alive customers make you more money than dead. House would protect that which he controls, because of greed instead of simply doing the right thing, but protection is protection.
House protects what he can with the resources he has, and he has plans to have more resources to protect even more, much like he had plans to stop far more nukes than he was able to. You can't claim "Oh he wouldn't protect people if in charge" because that's the exact opposite of everything he has already done and has plans to do.
You're absolutely on target. Unfortunately, saying Mr. House is "muh Putin or muh Hitler" is too easy for most people.
Mr. House said himself that he was willing to let the world burn.
"By 2065 I deemed it a mathematical certainty that an atomic war would devastate the Earth within 15 years. Every projection I ran confirmed it. I knew I couldn't 'save the world,' *nor did I care to.* But I could save Vegas, and in the process, perhaps, save mankind."
In his own words, if he were able to prevent nuclear destruction across the whole world he wouldn't have cared to and still would have only chosen to preserve Vegas.
@@couriers6
that's some BS and you know it
he barely managed to save strip, saying he could have saved the world but decided not to is just BS.
if i see my child and you in a burning house , i will save my child. because my child is priority
not because i didn't want to save you
@@AmirDarkOne I didn't say that he was capable of saving the world, you're misreading my words. I'm saying that he still would've chosen not to *-if saving the world were a possible option on the table-.* I was quoting a line of dialogue he says in-game. I love Mr. House as a character and he's my favorite option out of the others, but I'm not going to pretend he's a saint.
If the burning house is analogous to the bombs and the baby is analogous to Vegas, then sure it'd make sense for you to save the baby. However, per his own words, If House were in the situation where he *was* capable of saving everyone in the burning building, he still would've chosen to only save the baby. I wouldn't fault someone for prioritizing their loved ones in a situation like this and House did save Vegas which is commendable, but my gripe here is that he's indifferent to everything else to the point where if it were possible for him to do more, he still would've chosen not to.
@@couriers6
i haven't played NV in a long time so i trust what your saying is true and not out of context.
not trying to save everybody doesn't make mr.house a bad person, he's just not a hero, something mr.house never claimed to be. that doesn't make him a villain.
going to a burning building to save others is heroic dead that deserves compliment.
that's why such people are celebrated as heroes.
but if you die trying to saving others, that will drastically lowers livelihood of your own family
that is why, when someone doesn't try to save everyone, we don't call them villain.
It's funny how House didn't care about repressing gay people when real life Singapore did, meanwhile the legion did care about repressing gay people when real life Rome didn't
Oppressing*
Minor Note: It's my understanding that House did not let the bombs fall and only save Vegas. The Platinum Chip had a multitude of purposes, one of which, in addition to upgrading and fielding the securitron army, was to upgrade his anti missile defense system to cover a much wider area. It would nave saved at least the entire western half of the US. He didn't "let everyone else burn" He tried and failed to save them. ( I now there's some detail I'm missing but I can't remember)
It might be that Mr House is the only billionaire ultra elite we know who WASNT Enclave? I mean he couldve gone to the Oil Well, he couldve dragged the enclave into assisting his plan and had muscle from the start. But he seemed to have just, refused.
@@frohawkmaster Do we even know that House knew of the Enclave to begin with? It would not be a stretch to say he may have. But most of the Enclave were high level government and military officials along with marines to serve as the bulk of the armed forces. As it stands we simply don't know if he was even privy to their existence. And even so, House is likely fiercely independent in his ambition he likely would have readily used the resources had they been available. We can't say if he refused wholesale. What we do know is that without the platinum chip his missile defense systems could not feasibly stop every warhead set to impact the immediate area without the the upgraded OS.
It still feels weird in hindsight that the big glaring flaw in both his robot army and his anti-nuclear super-Iron Dome was just that everything needed a firmware update.
@@NieroshaiTheSable Seriously. You don't spend billions on physical equipment unless you have workable programming ready to go and in place. You might update later and most enterprises do but it's insane to have not one, but two, multibillion dollar, humanity saving systems, that are complete dead weight because someone "forgot the car keys".
@@jim4095 Ah that's the detail I missed. It was the whole state. I new it was "wider coverage" but the scale of that coverage I just couldn't remember. Thanks.
The Legion was supposed to have *WAY* more lore and development behind it. The issue was time crunch, and it had to be cut when push came to shove.
The whole faction if you try to side with them just oozes the unfinished feel, even yes man feels more like a complete faction
@@joule400 Yeah, they really ran out of time when it came to the Legion, which leaves us with what they are today.
I feel even if it was "complete" that doesnt make any of the evils they bring okay unless you want to be evil. They straight up brought back crucifixion and slavery.
@@thesun5275 Exactly, not to mention treating women as breeding stock and the persecution of homosexuals. Like, no amount of lore erases the explicitly morally wrong actions of the Legion.
And beyond the moral issues any additional lore would have failed to rectify, at the end of the day, we never got that content in the game. It would've been cool if we had, but as is, it means very little. Like, another initial idea cut to save time was the ability to let the player choose their species- human, ghoul, or mutant. That cut content changes nothing bc it was an idea that, at the end of the day, never came to fruition. Same with the Legion and their cut content. It's meaningless to analysis of the in-game faction.
@@thesun5275 Well, they are supposed to follow Rome. Crucifixion and slavery happens plenty. Most of the "good stuff" we hear is from Rome perspective. Their neighbor and decimated tribes would differ :p
44:00 even rewatching this years later I still think your conclusion is ultimately eschewed by your own personal beliefs but no one can help this. Right before saying that the NCR and House are essentially reactionary for having old world beliefs you then state “communism” as the answer when communism is a century old belief that is a reaction to a form of capitalism that is typically wholly absent in developed nations in the modern century. Even the 40 hour work week is far less than the type of work weeks Marx is talking about in the Communist Manifesto.
Maybe that’s because the 40 hour work week is unnecessary most of the time.
@@yakobsoulstorm5187 okay I hear what you’re saying but don’t see how it is a rebuttal or how it adds to what I stated. Communism is still a reactionary ideology to a state of capitalism that doesn’t even exist anymore.
Take one Look at america interventionism and maybe you understand why socialism doesnt work. This economical System is fucked and needs to vanish
@@dogbotgod8499 Me when I don't know anything about both socialism and US imperialism.
@@dogbotgod8499 if your economic system requires there be no other outside forces to be successful or for the entirety of the world to operate by the same standard then your system sucks balls bro sorry.
Sooo I know I'm like 3 years late here, but as an economist with a focus on growth and development I do have some critiques of your depiction of Singapore.
1) Their development was enabled in large part as a trading hub. This is a resource in a sense, particularly with the amount of port infrastructure that existed (it was the HQ of Royal Navy operations in the Pacific). Much of the wealth post-independence was built through the incompetence of their neighbors. As countries like Indonesia and Malaysia put trade restrictions and tariffs in place, Singapore engaged in what is known as arbitrage. In their case, basically profiting off of facilitating the transfer of goods from where they are cheap to where they are expensive.
2) That corruption index has a key word: PERCEPTION. It is not about where corruption is actually the highest, but where it is perceived to be so. What counts as corruption varies and is quite the cultural phenomenon. In some of your own descriptions of the ways Singapore ensures one party rule you outline immense corruption, far mor than what you'd see in the US or Western Europe. You note how opposition parties and support for them gets your district de-prioritized for housing projects, something incredibly vital in a land-restricted nation. A party more or less saying "vote for me and I'll give you cheap housing and jobs in your neighborhood" is a quintessential form governmental corruption. There's also serious internal debate about its validity and how its metric changed.
3) When comparing growth rates and other metrics over time, you cannot do a blanket comparison between developed and non-developed. In general, we observe convergence on growth and subsequently other measures like life expectancy. Basically poorer countries tend to grow faster. It is easier to catch up than it is to push ahead as you can copy what works and import existing skills and technologies. Same goes for life expectancy. Access to generic antibiotics, sterile births, and vaccines rapidly increase life expectancy. Developing new treatments for cancer on the other hand is hard and expensive. There's also differing measures. A good analysis recently found that the rise in US infant/maternal mortality was due to a methodology change. Orgs like the WHO tend to report the numbers they're given but nations provide them and there's not one consistent methodology. Micro-states like Singapore with less diverse populations and economies also will trend towards better metrics. Urban areas have serious advantages in scale and also lack many of the more dangerous jobs like forestry, mining, and agriculture.
Just a few thoughts. I'd also point out that the Washington Consensus was primarily critical of things like state-run industries and over-regulation. Singapore is hardly a contrast as they strongly embrace the free market ideals of the Washington Consensus.
As a Singaporean, thank you for making me realise that the real-life Mr House is Lee Kuan Yew and the PAP. lol
This is why FO:NV has so much depth.
Actually, this is why I choose the Mr. House path in New Vegas as a Singaporean as well
@@NerfMaster000 How do people in Singapore view him? And how do singaporean view PAP today?
@@hussienbintalal91 Very highly respected, like FDR/Washington is to Americans. As for the PAP however, while many (mostly the older generations who lived during LKY’s term) still strongly believe in them, there’s a significant portion who are more skeptical as they feel that the newer generation of PAP politicians aren’t as good as the ones from Lee Kuan Yew’s time. In the most recent parliamentary election last year, the PAP, while still winning a majority, has one of their worst turnouts in their history (61% of votes).
@@NerfMaster000 FDR is only respected by the left in america, the legacy of his progressive plague leaves america burning. Lee Kuan Yew knew things americans now deny, the majority demographics of singapore are preserved, and are high achieving, the system cannot be transferred without taking that into account.
@@yamerojones Bullshit. FDR is extremely highly valued as a war time president. He was also pretty racist so you might like him
Rene Auberjonois does such an amazing job as Mr House, he really sells every line
May he Rest In Peace
He’s still telling Alan Shore off for trying to fuck an intern, and worrying Denny Crane shot a man in heaven…
o7
To me, Odo and House are really similar characters. Both pretend like they have emotional and intellectual distance from ideology, but they are both more corruptible than they realize, and lean heavily towards authoritarianism by nature.
Honestly I played this game as a kid and when I watched ds9 I loved odo. When I went back to this game I instantly understood why I loved him, he was a phenomenal actor. Rest in peace
The co-op farm at the end was only able to self sustain because of resources stolen from the NCR and the cover-up of a murder. If the ends justify the means is a discussion to be had, but not bringing it up is a bit strange to me.
If the NCR didn’t monopolize the water, (much less try to annex The Mojave) resistance wouldn’t be necessary. People more often than not turn to such drastic measures out of necessity and the material conditions that they live in. It’s not like the co-op wouldn’t exist without the NCR being there. The water system was already apart of Westside and Freeside
Here's a problem with House's treatment of the gangs of New Vegas when he took power. It was mutually beneficial, but it wasn't a voluntary or even one. The contract was rather simple, I will give you tech and status, if you serve me. If you don't, I will drive you out.
It is not the wolf pack working together, but the lion allowing hyenas to serve them. Some resisted House take-over of the strip and they were annihilated.
Simply put. He didn't offer them a deal, he offered them an ultimatum.
Funny how everyone you meet who endorses a more forceful government always assumes said government is gonna be on _their_ side.
It will be if I’m leading it ….
Exactly the reason why Communism, Socialism, Fascism, and Democracy are all bad ideas. All forms of tyranny that people make excuses for believing that it'll be just, so long as they're the ones running it.
@@lpsoldin3162 and yet people must be controlled or managed. Libertarianism is a pipe dream.
@@spiderknight9893 and if you’re not?
@@backyardretards5684 I’ll probably be dead. I’m not afraid to die I only hope I die well. A blaze of glory isn’t so off putting when you have nothing left to live for.
From where you're standing must seem like 16 times the detail
@EREN NOMAN Hott Toward
Truth is....the lore was deep from the start
@@Lord-Professor Truth is, I was in the Chess club from the start.
@@notgoddhoward5972
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i am the 1k liker..felt good turning 999 to 1k..haha..
Something you sadly do not seem to realize or just not comment on is how Ulysses is very similar to Mr. House. While Ulysses criticizes House for clinging onto the past, Ulysses is doing the exact same thing when he is talking about the Divide and America. He quite literally is wearing an American flag on his back and is talking about America waking up. In that way he is no different, he doesn't offer anything new.
Not to mention that he outright gives you an identical copy of his duster if you side with Vegas (House). You even note in the peaceful, reputation-based speech checks with him that Vegas and the Divide are allegories for one another and that you can transform the place with a little effort. Ulysses is convinced that you can make a difference and rejuvenate your faction no matter who you side with up until then, it's the whole point of his dialogue being correct but also missing the point of things (or as he would say, "the why of it").
a good argument for house against corruption, how could he be bribed?
The fact that a video game that’s is ten years old made in under two years is so good that people can make thoughtful and interesting 50 min videos on ONE of the FOUR FACTIONS is a testament to the astonishing writing
And it gets a million views
Id honestly argue this video is about all factions
I think, ultimately, Dead Money said it best: The hard part is letting go.
Elijah is obsessed with the past, the guy who built the Sierra Madre was obsessed with a dying singer and her past work (also gold), and everyone in base game seems obsessed with many things, all of the old world.
The hardest part is letting go of it all.
The DLC storylines all slowly help to add context to the final conflict of the Dam and Ulyssus, and Dead Money being one of the earliest is by far one of the more subtle with it's effect of the 'main plot' but yes, it's focus on letting go is ironically the most important thing to take away from it.
I love how people have found ways to avoid that very message by taking all the gold.
@@commscan314 also by making mods to let you keep your companions bc letting go can eat shit we will reunite christine and veronica
I think one could also apply to that to the DLC characters too. Joshua can't let go of his vengeance towards the White Legs, the Think Tank scientists are obsessed with their Old World experiments and Ulysses can't let go of history and the tragedy of the Divide
I think House is the only one who has let go.
After 200+ years and with hostiles coming at him from all sides (NCR, Legion, Benny+Emily, Omertas, WGS, BoS, Fiends), he has no time to obsess over the past and has to constantly monitor the present in order to plan for the future.
I think that's what Emily's mini quest is trying to get across since he detects the bug planted in under 40 seconds.
"if you want to see the fate of the democracy then look out the window" that shit gave me chills with what's going on in the world rn
The economic comparison was hilarious cause like, u know that developed countries grow slower then developing ones right?
Right?
In some cases, I find it baffling as to why. Some places have chances at economic strength and growth on par, or surpassing, the US, China, or any other developed country.
Before you say it was 'outside government interference' that only works in the immediate aftermath. By the time 20 years have passed, and an entire generation has been born and raised, the onus falls upon then to improve their lots in life. From my perspective, its not for a lack of resources, a lack of need, or a lack of want, so what is the issue?
I've heard a good saying, "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the rest."
And the ncr represents this perfectly
Winston Churchill right before he got voted out of office after ww2
Ah yes democracy when one person rules for 20 - 50 years
Anarchists have entered the chat X'D
the NCR is literally dying from a water crisis (while their currency is backed by it), they will drink themselves into hyperinflation and collapse the republic after they lose the dam to Caesar (which is the most likely outcome unless the courier intervenes)
Monarchism is superior, republicanism and actual democracy in the Ancient Greek sense don't work.
It's amazing that Mr. House ending is a better ending for the NCR especially if Chief hanlon become a senator and probably president in the future, also i need that Vulpes Inculta picture, for a research...
I mean, over-expansionism is part of NCR's problem. So by helping NCR took the dam and NVegas, you literally rewarded those who caused this problem(s).
This can also happen under the Independent ending...
@@dieselface1 true but vegas wouldn't be an effective buffer between the ncr and legion since the courier will eventually die and be replaced by someone less competent than them that would have dumb ideas like "expanding vegas' borders" or "taking over the world".
@@Relek448 true the courier will die at some time in the future (though with Big MT tech this could be over 100 years which is enough time to create a system of succession), but a lot of the details are not filled in regarding decisions the courier could make, though we know Independent New Vegas is said to be more chaotic/violent than with the other factions.
Maybe someone ambitious/expansionist could take over down the line, but maybe the Kings could get involved with leadership since Freeside is one of the areas which actually improves or maybe New Vegas becomes some sort of power-sharing confederation. After OWB Courier is probably the closest to Mr. House in terms of ability even though Mr. House has irreplaceable genius regarding pre-war industry. I would say a lot of critics of Independent New Vegas downplay the strength that Courier is probably the most experienced/knowledgeable person in the Mojave regarding New Vegas' faction politics and has demonstrated a greater ability to build diplomatic/political ties with those minor faction than House, NCR, Legion or any other faction so I don't think building some power-sharing political system over a century is so hard to foresee when you look at other post-war organizations origins (like the NCR).
Nah hanlon doesn't seem the type to run for president, I think it hinted that general Oliver will become the next president and continue ncr expansion until it falls apart
Dude examines all the weaknesses of every faction except the one he likes
The followers good intentions can do nothing without the ability to back them up
In this game, it has come down to choosing the lesser of three evils. All these factions are vying for power and control, and from my perspective, aligning with Mr. House seems to be the best option. His vision for reestablishing society appears to be one that can benefit everyone, especially since his ideals are in line with those of the NCR, with whom he shares a mutually beneficial relationship.
By siding with Mr. House, there is the potential for a fruitful alliance that could lead to a society similar to what we experience today, having learned from the mistakes of the past. The root cause of these conflicts lies in the harsh wasteland itself, and Mr. House's capabilities in researching and understanding the wasteland, coupled with his clear goals and plans, make him a formidable leader.
Embracing Mr. House's approach may pave the way for progress and stability in this chaotic world. While it might not be a perfect solution, it presents a promising opportunity to build a better future for all. Making this choice may be challenging, but it appears to be the most logical and pragmatic decision given the circumstances.
And to think, the NCR all started because of passing that science (or was it intelligence) check to teach a random farmer in Shady Sands about crop rotation. (Oh, and saving teenage Tandi)
I don't think you need to path that science check to get best Shady Sands ending, just keep both faction leaders alive from Khans and radscorpions
"SHoULDa ReAD ThE TeRMs aND CoNDiTioNS" i just lost it right there
If we aren’t careful were going to have to write essays on this game in school
6 times. It was always House. Every time. I couldn't help myself. He was the only right choice...
35:04 In lore it's explained that he wanted to preserve way way more than just Vegas but since his OS upgrade wasn't delivered, his defences only stopped some nukes going to Vegas
No, he just wanted to protect Vegas. The entirety of Vegas, rather than just The Strip, but really only Vegas.
would u rather preserve small parts of the entire world or preserve one big part of one place@@themageofcontext7071
But could he have protected more? The system that saved the strip and was supposed to save vegas was barely capable without an upgrade, that was only finished but not delivered right before the bombs dropped. Maybe if the bombs came a few years later he could've had those all around the country.
On the other hand, very House to let the government fall so there's no competition in the post apocalypse.
It doest matter, mr house haters don't know how to read game text
@@dfrostedwang5478 having the world be plunged into the stone age doesn't benefit him in any way. In fact it's a massive hindrance.
Classic/traditional RPG logic would frame House as a villain because of his naked ambitions. However, I always thought his honesty was refreshing - he openly identifies himself as an autocrat, he discusses the domino effects of the other factions' movements in great detail proving himself to be a chess player of the highest order, and he's smart enough to have equipped _himself_ with functional immortality, the remnants of a once-grand American city as his kingdom, and an army of heavily armed autonomous robots programmed to keep the peace.
As far as I can tell, I never looked down on House the way that I looked down on every member of the NCR and Legion, up to and including their leaders. I respect House. I'm not going to argue that working for him makes you the good guy, but for somebody like me who doesn't _want_ to run the Mojave myself, following House seems like a pretty solid fallback plan. I would doubtless expect longevity, success, and authority for the rest of my life with House's precognitive intellect to guide my hand several steps in advance of our enemies.
If nothing else, I don't expect the infrastructure and policies of either army to produce a chess player capable of outwitting House's predictions and power plays. I'm just not that smart (or rather, the game wouldn't be able to reflect it if I was). Why wouldn't I try to operate under the umbrella of one of the smartest guys to ever exist in the region?
Imagine house finding P.A.M. (pretty much predicts the future), or the Institute, or both. What could it do for the world :)
Freedom but with strict laws
Sounds like my country Singapore, that explains the thumbnail
Exactly, I'm so tired of Mr House slander, arguably House is the only major faction leader that doesn't just unperson Followers of Apocalypse making him de facto best choice exception being fanfic Independent ending
@danielsurvivor1372 Imagine an ending where you could have fought for House, and rather than simply slaughter the NCR for wanting the win, you could negotiate them into progress.
_"With the Securitrons in full-force and the threat of the Legion's conquest no longer casting shadows on the Mojave, the Courier negotiates a pact. The NCR will remain a transient power in the region, mostly interested in trade companies and travel routes; the city itself and all its surrounding territories can be policed by the Securitrons, leaving thr military to reduce its footprint in the desert and to regain a stable foothold on its path forward. The Mojave, while still somewhat taxed in trades, is essentially free of the Bear's hunger for control."_
I mean, it just makes more sense for House to hold down the central region of the Mojave, and the NCR becomes more focused on creating safer trade routes to rival the Legion's territory. They can't do that if they're stretched so thin all over creation trying to control every little pocket of civilization that pops out of the irradiated dust.
@@inakiflores1103 House attended Cambridge University (from which the Institute has its origins in). I have no doubt in my mind that if House did have contact with them he would ally with them.
I don't agree with your take on market framework. Legion does not have market economy. It does not have a capitalist engine.
Also, Followers Of the Appocalipse and their communities would be living under sunshine and rainbows as long as no other state/faction driven by expansion/market finds them. You can see that happening in Honest Hearts. Community can be living in harmony, but if it does not strive for competition, gaining power and size, it would lose the confrontation against the faction which does. Moreover, market economy offers the most powerfull drive for progress, it converts selfish pursuits into common good. Without it the economic decay or stagnation are imminent. Economic decay and stagnation = weakness against external enemy. And there will always be one, especially in post-apocalypse.
Marx's manifesto was released in 1848. Why does it somehow get a pass from being labelled an "old world" idea? We'd still be retreading old ground.
Because what we see in the entire world today is older. Markets are way, way older than communism.
And besides, there has never been an 'communist country' or attempt that was not crushed by the interests of capital surrounding it
@@incognito7609 "crushed by the interests of capital" and "collapsed into itself once no longer propped up by external trades" are two things that many proponents of communism find convenient to conflate as the same.
Becahse communists posess a spectacular lack of self awareness.
@@incognito7609 bullshit
@@incognito7609There as absolutely been a communist country, and countries that have tried to achieve it. And they failed because the thesis is wrong. Marx did not understand history and he did not understand his present, much less the future. Marxism is an old world idea that inevitably collapses in on it self into barbarism and authoritarianism as the system cannibalises itself before it rots
I've come to the realization that this is a game I need to play if not for the socioeconomic lessons then for all the great voice actors
There are only like 5 voice actors
@@alejandroredpine over 25 are listed
@@thejudgmentalcat yes and there are hundreds of npcs with 1 of those peoples voices and most of the 25 are in the dlcs, still good voice acting though.
Don't bother it's pretty outdated and overrated imo, people make all these documentaries about how deep it is etc. Etc. And yes it is well designed. But the moment to moment gameplay is so fuxking boring that is not worth it. The actual open world is boring to explore. Fallout 3 was much, much better in this respect.
@@matbutt303thats an opinion, not a fact. You prefering fallout 3 over new vegas is fine, but stating that fallout 3 is better then fallout new vegas? Thats just your opinion.
I personaly favour fallout new vegas, because of my own reasons, but I am not going around and stating my opinions as a fact.
The simples sollution, if he is intrested inn trying the game, he shuld, and form his own opinion on it. Simple as that.
"Cathode ray tube Elon Musk single-handedly tanks the Elvis impersonator economy!"
Okay, that's it. I'm subbing.
this comparison is flawed tho, House is actually smart
I think ultimately any positive points for the Followers are very heavily curtailed by how laughably ineffective they are at defending themselves or gathering resources. I actually think they end up being a brilliant demonstration of another problem of the Old World; its power and influence prevents new, better systems from being able to properly develop or flourish.
That intro "gag" hits different now
MOOD
We all know there's only one solution to the Mojave: fun red laughing gas and some blue hologram friends (that turn red if you've been a bad boy of course).
So turn the desert into angry spirit heaven?
Masters of the Mojave is a really good mod.
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????? im listening?
@@yarinoi8662 It does exactly what RegicideKo9 said.
@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 cant wait to become father elijah 2.0 in my kill everything run
The lesson of New Vegas is that sometimes there is no truly good ending.
Karma runs rough-shod all over that though.
Smartest comment. I think it's why its tale is so enduring and still debated. There is no good ending, just one that the player makes, and not even with 10 in every stat and 100 in every skill will the player be left without wishing a few crucial elements could be different. Almost like it's a grounded and compelling story soaked in realism, instead of a childish tale of how the player took out the ebil enclabe.
Hmm you'd like Pathologic then :]
I would argue that there can be a GOOD ending, were a lot of good stuff happens, but there isn't a PERFECT ending. There will always be something wrong
@@michaelgillespie9112 there might not be a best ending but the independent route is certaintly the worst ending seeing as you take out the only person that makes the Mr. House route viable and try to run a nation on your own with no experience at all
Greenland on any data map: NO DATA
Never gonna give you up never gonna let you down
Came for a Fallout lore video, left with a degree in socioeconomics.
Great video!
well the video lies alot, like the part where he says capitalism is imperialistic ignoring all the communists who invaded other countries in history?
"Hope you like learning about Singapore"
Ah, no wonder siding with House felt so natural.
One of the ending slides for Yes Man literally says that the period of Anarchy didn’t last, and that things did calm down in the region. It’s something along the lines of “Any chaos on the streets was ended quickly. Chaos became uncertainty, then acceptance, with minimal loss of life. New Vegas assumes its position as an independent power in the Mojave.” That seems to imply that while people did panic, and riot at first, they eventually settled down, and accepted the situation.
Yup
Independent Vegas will not last. NCR or Legion will rebuild their strengths and try again to take it. Mr. House is the best for Vegas. He has a goals for the people of Vegas and future of Vegas.
@@ryanmceldowney2428 Independent New Vegas could be 100% capable of defending itself depending on the player choices of course. Especially with the Securitron Army. I admit that without the Vault of Securitrons it would be impossible to hold Vegas.
@@robertsmalls2293 even then your putting ur trust into yes man who at the end says he gonna become more assertive and the courier has no control over the army. At least with Mr.House you know what you r getting.
@@ryanmceldowney2428 Sorry to burst your bubble but that’s not what happens. The Courier will always have control over Yes Man. What he means by being more assertive is that he’ll be able to say no to people other than the Courier, and from that point on he would only take orders from the Courier. J.E. Sawyer already clarified that.
Comparing the great khans to real life natives is the most unhinged bullshit I've ever heard.
This is so incredibly well done. Nice job and thank you for putting this together.
It never makes sense that there’s no option to spare Mr. House in the NCR ending. The most brilliant man alive, possibly who’s ever lived, possesses a treasure trove of technology only he fully understands, and you demand we dispose of him just to control Vegas? He’s not even hostile to them, I have trouble believing even the NCR would be so shortsighted and greedy.
The NCR hired Fantastic.
@@surprisedchar2458 Well yeah, he has a theoretical degree in physics
House's mere existence is anathema to the Brotherhood of Steel and he carries deep knowledge of the Old World and its power games. He's also singularly obsessed with his own interests. If House became an NCR citizen, he'd be able to influence NCR politics in a way no other living person would be prepared for.
It makes sense because
1. Your actions have consequences and no ending is truly good. Someone always gets fucked over, whether that be the Powder Gangers, the Brotherhood, the Followers, the Kings, and considering his status as a major faction leader, House.
2. House is not willing to surrender the Strip to the NCR in the same way the NCR is not willing to surrender Hoover Dam to House. Both are planning to steal away the respective regions from each-other in the first place, which are the main goals of their runs, so House agreeing to an NCR takeover would not make sense.
3. The NCR is indeed that shortsighted and greedy. If they weren't then they wouldn't still be in the Mojave.
@@DesperateDirt I don't buy it. I don't buy the idea that the NCR is willing to make peace with the brotherhood, the khans, and the kings but not Mr. House. Of the four groups I mentioned, House is the ONLY one who has not committed an act of aggression against the NCR. Let's be real, if you were to threaten Mr. House's life or anything akin to that he would much rather make a peace deal than die. House cares immensely about his own continued existence, he's been biding his time for literal centuries. After all, House has aspirations of colonizing distant planets, under the NCR he would still be able to do that, just at a much slower pace. Much unlike if the Legion or brotherhood were to takeover.
And I'm not basing this off of nothing, there is actual cut dialogue for Mr. House signing a treaty with the NCR, permitting their continued occupation of Vegas but allowing House to maintain a level of control. It seems like this option was meant to trigger if you entered House's stasis chamber but left without touching the terminal (which he desperately requests you to). He then begrudgingly drafts the deal with you having this threat over his head.
1:30 Huh I just realised that Caesar founded the Legion for 'long term stability' but everyone in game outside of the legion (and several within it) are convinced that once Caesar is dead, the Legion will fall apart or smash itself to pieces. He's already failed to achieve his stated goals by not considering a long term post him world and having effective methods of ensuring leadership continuity.
Big Oof for Little Kaesar
Yeah, even if we can't agree on any other faction I think we can all agree that Caeser is a goddamn idiot and the legion is jusy bad for everyone, including the legion
A big part of his goal is he understands that, which is exactly why he wants to conquer New Vegas and assimilate the NCR. He said that the Legion and NCR will both undergo synthesis, leaving behind their weaknesses. The Legion will move from a nomadic warband to an effective, organized military that protects its citizens, the NCR government will turn into an Empire ruled by a populist dictator. He states that neither faction will truly survive the synthesis, and the result will be something that actually resembles the early Roman Empire, rather than post-apocalyptic Mongols larping as Romans. He knows that if he does not secure Vegas as a new worthy capital and lay the grounds for long-term governance, then his Legion has no reason to continue existing, which is why he has all but ensured it will crumble with his death by not naming a successor. There is of course the theory that Caesar is grooming a Legion-aligned Courier with how he explains his ideology and reasoning for his decisions, and even mints his face on the new coinage, which was reserved for the founders of the Legion. Once some bureaucracy and line of succession is established, for better or worse, perpetual dictatorships can work and be very effective. Just look at Rome, Russia, or various monarchies.
Interestingly though, there is a key similarity that the Legion has with the NCR. Evolving with time. Ulysses will point this out with a female Legion Courier, saying that a woman working as an operative would have been unthinkable even not long ago when he served the Legion. He goes on to say that even during his time, he saw the Legion change, even if subtley, with every tribe and town they assimilated. Perhaps long-term in a Legion playthrough, the Legion will just become a more brutal and effective NCR.
@@KovoriaTheConquerer Well said.
The major problem with dictatorship.
"To be sure, every democratic institution has its constraints and inadequacies, which it undoubtedly shares with all human institutions. Yet the remedy that Trotsky and Lenin have discovered-the elimination of democracy as such-is worse than the evil that it is supposed to prevent, for it occludes the very living source from which alone any correction of all the deficiencies inherent within social institutions can emanate." -Rosa Luxemburg
Whoa. that's crazy. Sure is a good thing the Weimar Republic didn't torture and kill her and then slowly decay into Nazi Germany, or else that quote would look horribly disingenuous!
She deserved every bit of what she got lol
One of my favorite details in the game are the snowglobes.
When you get a snowglobe, you can give it to House's secretary bot for 200 caps, where it goes to the very top bar to sit.
House treats Vegas like his snowglobes, a little snapshot of something familiar.
The Followers's solution for the future reminds me a great deal of the anarchist and syndicalist factions of the Spanish Civil War.
Each faction wanted different things, and each one thought their brand of anarchism or syndicalism was "correct/best". They could never compromise or entertain the thought of surrendering some of their autonomy, even in the face of the steady march of Franco's nationalists across Spain.
Even in a time of great crisis, each faction pulled so hard in their own direction, they ultimately turned on each other during the May Days, and in doing so, guaranteed the triumph of Franco and Nationalist Spain.
It was this extreme factionalism, watching them decry those they were closest aligned to as facists if they even slightly disagreed, even in the face of actual facism marching across Spain, that ultimately lead George Orwell to conclude that authoritarianism, no matter how you dress it up, is always the same. This was more or less confirmed by Stalin and Hitler basically being interchangeable, save for their economic doctrine, and both of them collectively inspired Ingsoc and Big Brother in 1984
@@chaincat33 Stalin and Hitler were not interchangeable.
Stalin brought USSR into modernity, and only used killings as a tool (something that most governments do, altho to various degree). Hitler put murder as part of the core of his ideology.
Any equation sign between the two is just repeating cold war propaganda.
and this right here is why they were doomed to lose it is always why that authoritarian fascist dictatorship was the better option
@@A_B_1917 bruh Stalin was a paranoid psychopath wth you talking about. The Holodomor was just as villainous as the Holocaust. Murder was core to Stalinist ideology, because anyone who remotely disagreed with The Leader and The Party or was otherwise inconvenient to them had to be removed from society one way or another.
@@daroaminggnome Holodomor was a famine. Like one in Bengal in same century.
And murder wasn't core of Stalinism. Dangers had to removed, but that often did not require murders. Vast majority of gulag prisoners survived.
Murder was not necessary, meanwhile in case of Hitler, Genocide was the goal. He even killed Jews that supported him.
Having the literal same name as Mr. House got me lots of references and comparisons in college from my nerdier friends. Had to grow the hair long and make sure the mustache was thick or else I'd be getting mugged for my caps
guess the house doesn't always win
When you're older or have kids
You'll be Mr. House to so many people, so many people Who WILL KNOW
So, Mr House, when are you founding your new start-up RobCo? What are your plans for surviving the apocalypse and becoming a stabilizing force in the post-nuclear wasteland?
House gives me the same "necessary evil" feeling as Gustavo Fring
I love how there's still if not more New Vegas content 10+ years after it's release
deservedly so, its timeless.
Having recently replayed through New Vegas and Fallout 4, with several Fallout 4 playthroughs, I'm struck by how little of value there is to be said or deconstructed in Fallout 4. I'm also struck with just how many concepts Fallout 4 straight up ripped from New Vegas but did it poorer, or how several different locations are just worst rehashes of 3/NV areas. Halluci-gen and the vault from 3, where Halluci-gen is just visually and story wise worse than the vault. Diamond City being a glowing beacon seen from most anywhere on the map and the Strip, and somehow Diamond City managed to be worse than the strip as far as content goes.
In a decade, I just don't think we'll see deconstructive videos about the politics of Fallout 4, or even 3, because everything in the Bethesda fallouts are often a surface level rehash of previous fallout concepts already explored by Bethesda and Obsidian.
That is to say, I wish Bethesda had a different writer. Maybe one who actually knows how to write, that'd be a nice change of pace.
What I love about this game is the ability for those of completely opposite political intrigues to get something out of it. I'm a Yes Man kinda guy, (and the text does straight up say Yes Man is the best option don't you lie...!), but it's still terrifying to note that the NCR, Legion, and House all have strong arguments to back up their ideals too. The game's narrative can be seen as a way to embrace not only your own ideas, but ideas that completely oppose your own. Mwah, great writing. This is why New Vegas is so beloved.
It's almost as if different political ideologies suit different circumstances 🤔
@@ShadowGaro Uhh oh yeah really? Wow didn't know that until you said it bub, yeahhh. Get out of here.
@@thedrunkenmudcrab wow rude I was just making an observation
@@ShadowGaro I was at work, so bad mood. Sorry
@@thedrunkenmudcrab lol it's cool
Unironically calling Jan 6 a coup attempt is the funniest thing I've heard in a while.
I think he wasn't joking about that...he also said they were armed....?! So its hard to tell if he was joking....
@@Marin3r101 Armed with what, harsh language?
What was it then
@@unknownuser5895 A guided tour
@@unknownuser5895 A mostly peaceful riot c:
After the Mr. House ending, anyone who drops gum on the Strip is immediately obliterated by a Securitron Mark II.