CORRECTIONS: Apologies, the army wide heroic intervention stratagem is 3" normally. It's only 6" if the unit has heroic intervention normally. Means Aquilan shield do have more of a point and it makes characters have a 6" threat range. Also the Sisters of Silence trait I mentioned apparently doesn't GRANT obsec but instead takes it away from the opponent within 3". That seems more fitting (and very annoying for the foe!)
Fun note I just learned, and a bit of a spoiler for the second Throne book with Valerian and Aleya. The reason she can be used for the Teleport Homer strat is because the misericordia she has, which was given to her by Valerian, has a tracking device built into it incase she ever needs his help. That is some awesome game and story integration.
Jesus dude. The amount amount effort is stunning! At least 5-6 other videos this week and you come out with this?! You deserve a break, and a few more subscribers!
In compensation for the Loss of the 3++ of the Custodian Guard's Shields they could have given them a standard -1 to hit in melee same as the galatus owns or a sweaping profile for the blades to double the attack profile. That would have been a really solid tweak to even tackle some of custodes struggle against hordes and to justify the points increase in contrast to the overall buff to the now superior spears.
Honestly, all of the 8th Edition artwork looks better. Each one has this impact to it, almost as if the character is about to jump out at you. The 9th Edition ones just seem... disinterested.
@@ryanjackson6298 I think the T’au codex and gsc codex cover art look better then their 8th, but I agree with you on a lot of the others.(special edition black templar not included)
@@ryanjackson6298 It's as if 8th Art was made by someone who loves Warhammer and to make art, and 9th is made by someone who has been commissioned. I know they both were commissioned, but that is besides the point.
My complaint about the codex isnt about the "nerf" but more the feel of the faction. this was suppose to be the codex where we can truly play as "Talons of the Emperor"/"10,000 Heroes"; but instead we just got balancing update for codex 8.5. - we cant really use sos more freely since limited to 1 unit per custodes unit in the detachment; shouldve been 1 sos unit per any custodes unit and no such restriction if sos HQ is also taken). - many stratagems are from previous codex, nerfing the ones most commonly used and balancing ones from psychic awakening that made custodes feel like expensive space marine instead of its own faction. - the normal custodes units (not characters) didnt get base stats buff; making the units not feel as elite as other factions. custodian guard only has 3W and 3A while other faction's elite units has same or even more, custodes terminator is just a custodian guard with +1W and +1A with no defense buff while deathwing has 4+ wound only, custodian warden stats is still shit, etc. Like common sob babycarrier is S5 T5 4W 2+ 3/4A -1D WTF - the way ka'tah was implemented just doesnt make sense in any martial arts sense. martial artist changes their stance based on the situation not going through it a steps-manual like "some old people gathering wushu" shit. - wheres the free teleport deepstrike for all custodes (at least for infantry), wheres the finest weapons of the imperium (D2 is meh now since many units has it and theres alot of invul sv and -1D, also wth paesidium shield), wheres all the single individual heroes (all custodes shouldve been able to be fielded with 1 model), and on and on and on. Custodes/talons just dont feel how they should be in the lore, instead we got some "tournament meta balance" (im assuming most of the custodes playtesters mostly played with the 8.5 meta from what i see, instead of suggesting drastic changes to make Custodes/Talons unique). Dont get me wrong, I think custodes will be decent in tournaments with this codex but Im the guy who is fine with custodian guard to be like 60 or 70pt if it will make them "emperor's finest" and also wanted to field sisters more. P.S. Aupex, we appreciate on what you do for us but dont die for the emperor just yet
I used to tell friends starting out in the hobby to play Custodes. They weren’t “that guy” stupid overpowered I win buttons, but they were very forgiving, you only needed a handful of models to play, so cheap to start and easy to keep track of units due to their small numbers. Now, you have to know, I believe, 52 stratagems. 6 different Shield Hosts and their 9 traits, 6 Martial Katahs and 12 stances…for an edition they were trying to streamline to “speed up play” (hence no overwatch and a smaller board) they sure are making it complicated.
To be fair, while the complexity has gone up, games do seem to be faster from my reckoning. Although I was a noob in 8th and now with 9th i have experience
@@CloudianMH But what it takes to LOSE that model. And when you are trying to learn this increasingly complicated game, an “army” of 12 guys is pretty easy to keep track of. Much easier than 2000 points of Craftworld, Orks, Tyranids. Or the complexities of Admech. Or the concentrating on one thing like 1000 Sons or Grey Knights. I guess Craftworld, if painted right, are easy. “All these colors do this only. All these colors do this.” Space Marines cause they can take a hit. But to learn? Custodes are pretty forgiving. Make a mistake with Eldar, lose an entire unit. With Custodes, lose a guy. Isaac played a number of games before finally deciding on Tau of all things. Brave man to pick Tau as your first army in 9th edition.
@@CloudianMH sure but they are cheap and easy to learn. I was new to 40k with 8th playing admech and it's both hella expensive and confusing when you first start because of all the options.
My one complaint is that sisters aren't MSU 4 if you build a Knight-Centura. Weird considering that Allarus Terminators are MSU 1 if you build the Shield-Captain and Vexilus Praetor in that box
3d print one, even a SoB with SoS head and put the box sword on it to satisfy the based around GW parts rule. I mean surely the big special relic sword is most important, right?
I believe they are going for ka'tah being pronounced like kata (as in forms in martial arts). There's plenty of 'etymology' in 40k that mutates words in the setting. Great video, thank you!
Dare I say it, but this seems kind of balanced at first glance? I'm happily surprised as I was half-expecting these guys to come out OP as all heck. Still worried that the Tau & Eldar will be super broken upon release though so... 🤞
honestly not looking forward to how gw are going to buff the tau because i feel they're gonna go balls to the walls to ensure that tau can wipe an army in a single shooting phase
Balanced means it's utter crap, if of the last dozen Codexes, ten were a ton of power creep! Make every codex equally balanced, or make every Codex equally OP.
You gotta admit, it's funny how the whole "stated purpose" of 9th edition was to streamline and speed up the pace of the game, and then they spent the entire edition making the most convoluted, complex mechanics for literally every army. I love some complexity in how mechanics interact, but I do not like having to memorize page long rules and mechanics for literally every army in my local meta. Thanks to you for making it a tad bit more bearable and concise lol. Also, take a nap dude. You're insane, and we love you.
This. Games might go a little faster, but only if you know the stratagems well. Between that, the staggered Codex releases, and covid delays, your rules could be spread across multiple books, magazines, and digital articles. Imagine being a Nids player right now. You have to track your rules across a Codex, Psychic Awakening, Imperial Armory, and a White Dwarf.
So now somebody playing as or against Custodes has to remember 12 stances that have different effects and changes in the command phase? This is taking complexity to a whole other level.
you choose only 3 at the start of the game, after deploying, before rolling who goes first. And they are secret, you have to note them down on your army sheet.
@@greyt00th tbf, I think that Calistus, Rendax/Dacatarai and Kaptaris, in that order, will be the standard Katahs used. Early game use of Calistus to advance up the board towards objectives, Rendax or Dacatari to do all the heavy midgame fighting, and finally Kaptaris to deny the opponent any last minute tricks or gambits.
@@KC-kl6qc It's interesting to think of the possibilities, but I think Callistus - Salvus - Conservai become a common line; since we lose the 3++ from storm shields moving into more shooting has it's place so those Ka'Tahs help. I really like Conservai, T4 shoot and act, with T5 fall back/advance and sneak in another one means potentially 8-10pt (with right secondaries) on those last 2 turn could turn a game easily.
Very Disappointed in this Codex. I was so excited for it to come out and now it's left a bitter taste in my mouth. EDIT: Apparently it has some nifty tricks so I still have hope in the codex.
Bravo 👏 👏. Great video. I feel like I understand these guys far better now. You contribute more to Warhammer than a lot of the GW executives do, I'm sure. I hope they do *something* to say thank you at some point. I don't feel like poking fun at Custodes anymore. With a better color scheme, I could see myself playing them. Thanks again!
so they nerfed AC. thanks no 3+ invul. no transuman for wardens. Uselesss shields( btw best shields in Imperium) and etc etc.... Kxm BA CODEX ALL OVER AGAIN. x)) not so bad, but still mediocre. Balanced codex in a world of abominations which we had before. hah.
it legit feels exactly like the BA codex over again . same bad taste even worse for BA though they only got to use the pychic awakening for i think 9 months
@@jameshouse2588 i am just a curse for a factions that i love deeply. except grey knights, but they are immune to curses xDDD. Still.. who cares. Struggle is a nature of Imperium. Per aspera ad astra
waiting for that patrol box to start my first army.. I may get weak and get the box with the blade champion. also that custodes combat patrol has 2 bikes in the picture but it isn't listed posted on the combat patrol page 🤔
a small correction: wisdom of the moritoi allows you to choose whether you want to reroll hit or wound rolls of 1. adds some flexibilty and makes it a little better, i guess
Lol for saying your own faction “a joke” without realizing you can do stuff you can never do with a bit of brainwork. You my boy, are a hot steaming pile of joke.
@@fox21231 lmao you really know nothing about the Golden Boys aside from that 3++ dont you? Lol happy to get rid of it. 3 guards should not being able to tank 20 shots of melta without taking a hit.
As other people have said, it seems your content and the depth you go into, it’s basically unrivalled 💯🔥 Very appreciated by someone relatively new getting into the game
Would be very interesting hearing your thoughts of implementing Forge World units into lists. Are there meaningful downsides using them as long as their Datasheets are not updated...?
Without a FW update, whiny dickheads will claim none of them get any of the new benefits from army wide rules and auras. Don't think it won't happen given the sheer idiocy over the 5th Ed Necron codex reanimation rules TOs caved on, where they ruled certain attacks disallowed reanimation (based on the prose style of one codex author written in two codices by claiming semantically equivalent phrases meant different things) while simultaneously ruling against using the same interpretation logic to deny the resulting unkillable Necron units left on the field to contest objectives.
Well... technically speaking... the Forge World units got the necessary keywords already AND they do have the Aegis of The Emperor ability. The only thing they seem to be missing is the "Martial Ka'Tah" ability for the Aquilons and Fancy Spears. So "those guys" can't complain about you using them. At least I think so.
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Can't wait to break out a spreadsheet everytime I start a game to remember my damn Ka'tahs... my whole strategy revolved around a shield wall holding the center while bikes took objectives, so it looks like I'm going to either have to get new models (dreads or sag) or relearn how to fight with my boys...
You’re really undervaluing the boosts to mobility from Solar Watch, they’re probably the best/most important buffs custodes can get. Since they lost the 3+ invuln and are already really killy the most important thing you can do is get them into the enemy as fast as possible, the ability to fall back and charge(or fall back and shoot with the maneuver stratagem) is huge with the bikes and that relic spear synergizes super well with tip of the spear.
Corection: Fraternity of Heroes allows you to Heroically Intervene with any unit 3". You only get a 6" if that unit was already able to Heroically Intevene. Actually makes Aquillan Shield a bit more interesting to look at, though not by much.
Peerles warrior (6's to hit = 1 extra hit and 6's to wound = an additionl mortal wound) should have been army wide. The reroll 1 hit, 1 wound roll per combat phase too. Oh and the shields only give an extra ap now ? nothing extra to compensate for the loss of the extra invuln? not extra toughness, no extra wound ? nothing ? Alright then.......... Terminators should have ignored ap1-2 gotten t6 and dmg 3 axes, if it wasnt army wide for the axes. Bikers should have kept reroll failed wound rolls on the charge.
I totally agree. If the 3++ absolutely needed to go, give them extra wound, toughness or -1 dmg, maybe +2 armor even. Spending 5 points more for an 1+ and a much worse weapon is completely stupid! This is a huge nerf and neither Ka'tah nor even Shield company traits can remotely even make up for it. They should have made the Army more elite, not less. This Codex is a huge letdown, and pretty much also a straight downgrade, in a period of otherwise insane power creep.
@@dewseff8492 on his data sheet built into his spear “Each time an attack made with this weapon is allocated to an enemy model, that enemy model cannot use any rules to ignore the wounds it loses.” I’ve found a few people talking about it and saw it in a review someone did on TH-cam. Saw the datasheet and everything. The Spear also has an extra point of AP for -4.
@@priorityordersdiscarded7868 If it's true that "enemy models cannot use any rules to ignore wounds" that means it bypasses normal saves, invulns, AND FNP.
While I like the idea of the codex I think it's a bit of a miss. Takes one of the simplest to collect armies with uncomplicated rules to a very complicated army with only half its rules. Not taking Forge World units into account is pretty unforgivable given half the units are FW. I foresee Custodes being either being FAQed or we'll have to wait for a new FW book to update or worst of all... they put better rules in a campaign book.
@@thetaomegatheta They dont have the Kahtah or whatever keyword and we don't know if any of their weapons are auric. Or if the different spears will get their profiles updated. At least not that Ive seen so far.
Yeah... the fact that FW stuff didn't got updated at the same time, or the fact that GW couldn't even be bothered to port ONE unit from FW into plastic (like their amazing dreads) is just... so GW.
Completely understandable it's definitely better. But it's also utterly unfun to play against. GW might be bad at spotting unfun stuff until it's live but they do actually seem to prioritise fixing it now.
The codex seems really good from an internal balance perspective, multiple interesting ways to play the army, some very fluffy recurring themes such as deadly buffs against monsters and characters. I think it’s been well balanced by the nerfs to 3+ invulnerable saves and loosing a couple of good strats.
okay, so now their just golden space marines - WORSE golden space marines. Their entirely super elite and most of their new strategems and things are only good when you take A LOT of models - but wait...we can't cuz oh yeah we got like 20 models total. 3+ invuln wasn't OP why do i say that? Custodes even WITH THAT was only B tier at best. Now you took that and some of the best stratagems away and gave us a very shitty Kat'ah system that is retarded as hell to utulize and sisters of silence - that we can't technically field and you have to take them as a secondary army slot costing you 3 cp to field an all custodes army or its illegal to use them because GW is a bunch of quacks.
Just as a reminder, all relics based on auric weapons are auric weapon, so yeah the gatekeeper can shot up to 8 shots F5 PA2 ( 3 if dread ost at less than 9" from the ennemy ) D2 auto hit, not very optimized but nice in friendly games^^
It's been a year since you dropped this video - how well would you say this Codex has aged? Can you also post a video about the buffs and nerfs that you'd give the Custodes if it was your call?
For me, playing Custodes now feels like DA Deathwing in gold instead of „everyone is a hero in its own right“. And thats the reason the codex is a big fail for me.
People on reddit crying saying the army sucks, but the book is fantastic so far. if you think a 3++ going away is going to lose you games.... it won't. sooo many easy strats for dmg mitigation, which are not too expensive, some insanely good relics, Captain Commanders are balanced and definitely upgraded, and D2 is not an issue with the new Datacarai(?) ka'tah. No obsec bikes is fine. if you can't take a target off an objective with them, you probably aren't playing them right! it definitely takes a bit of practice but in my opinion this book is an upgrade, and I've played Stodes since they were playable as a faction. The flexibility we have now is great. Also Trajann. Wow!
So a rhino holds 10 sos can I have two different squads in it such as a 5 man squad of witch seekers and a 5 man squad of vigilators? If so that might be a nice wombo combo
As always your content and its delivery speed is inmaculate Auspex. But on the flipside, this codex feels like a spit in the face to custodes player, they became overcomplicated and less effective for no reason at all. Its honestly astonishing someone read these rules next to both their own old codex and the rest of this current edition codexes and went "Yeah this is alright".
@@HighMarshalBiggusDickus Their costs didnt go down at all and they have become less durable overall, which is something that is supposed to be compensated by katah's but if your enemy knows about them they can avoid them making their benefits situational.
@@martinrudolph5938 their costs have gone down. I don't know anyone who wanted custodes prices to drop. I think this is the army that you make everything better and increase prices. I can think of 3 strats that should've just been baked into the units datasheet and given the book 3 more strats lol
unleash the lions sounds like a lot of fun with Emperor's chosen; each terminator gets a re-roll whenever they shoot or fight meaning the Fighting Style is 3x-6x as effective depending on the unit size.
No, the Magnifica is nerfed. Instead of -1 to hit + cover bonus, now you only get -1 to hit even if in cover PLUS losing the bonus to any ignores cover rule. Defensor took anti-ally nerf without the large 5++ aura to allied infantry. Have to see what the big post release FW/GW FAQs change up. Already seeing rumors of continued points drops in FW unit cost, a change to misericordia costs and a maybe buff to the shields
I just finished assembling my custodes, now with this new codex released and everyone crying over and over about it Im worried about having my pre-oder, but will make the best out of it. Also we have to wait for the other half of the codex and how the FW minis will do.
@@Ahivalaostia88 i played a 1000p game vs them with my blood angels, managed to kill 3 guards and 3 bikes in one turn, still got crushed lol. You will be fine! :D
Dacatarai 2 will also be good into DR1. For 3 attack models you'll effectively get the damage you lost going to D2 back. For attack stat higher models it's not quite as good but it'll help.
So pretty much we still need to run a stack of FW units ... ventari are obsec and core/fast moving .. dreadnoughts are still awesome with the telemon or gallatus both with 4++ invuls baked in .. be interesting to see the initial FAQ in the next week to bring inline the new point changes and what keywords get put into FW units... Aquilions could be awesome if they become auric lastrum bolters :) plus they are Str 5 x 2 with their -4 /D2 fists .so they could be very good at punching out stuff ... Fingers crossed Sagitarum guard get Auric on their golden bolters as well :) GW should just at this stage make Land Raiders a Legend unit or just bump them up into LOW and give them 20 wounds/5++ and -1D or some ignore Ap1 rules .
Yeah... so GW didn't rolled the FW updates at the same time than the codex, so basically half the army is still missing. It's just extremely unprofessional of them to not do thos updates at the same time than the codex.
Just a note Fraternity if heroes does not give a 6 inch heroic intervention to any unit. It only increases the distance to 6 inches if they already could intervene, otherwise it just allows a normal heroic intervention.
So does that mean then that if you take an Anathema Psykana detachment you can't take any custodes units? And if so how far does that extend? For example could I use custodes vehicles like the land raider?
i like how he makes it seem like Dreadknights are so tough that the Rendax martial katah is going to make a difference. they're only T6, so other than sentinel blades, the entire army wound them on 3's in melee. unless he's talking about shooting, which overall, the katah is only going to net you maybe 1-2 wounds per unit.
Have to say this book was kinda disappointing we still don't even have a way to get reliable mortal wounds (outside that one trait) and only some things got the extra attack. Oh and that one banner but that's more incidental. These martial skills seem cool but it's such an odd grab bag of specificly useful stuff. Like how often is no consolidation into you when they are already in engagement range useful? And why would you change Victor of the blood games (to remove hard pregame decisions supposedly) just to add something more changeable and specifically useful?
@@rmkarros Ha ha ha! That's what I did with Skitarii or Adeptus Mechanicus! I couldn't care less about the Imperative Doctrinas and Canticles because I soup them with my Imperial Knights!
@@Sir_Tomoyuki ya mine are going to be with guard so I'm actually really glad I won't have to rember it all. serously my dyslexic ass just can't deal with it lol.
Is the Aquilian Shield's Shield of Honour Stratagem applicable only to non-vehicle Imperium Characters? Or it's just straight out all Imperium Characters now?
I saw a post that was about getting a SoS HQ Warlord with the obsec removal trait within 3 inches and some Allarus Terminators as bodyguards to just move on an obective and I think that could be quite funny. Just like "Nah, this is mine now" even before having killed the enemy's obsec troops.
Not sure if you siad or I missed it, but MIsericordias: are they free for units or just cost more for HQ (I know they were 3 points each in previous edition)? You said price for HQ (+5) but not other units, if I'm not mistaken.
I like the way the sisters work , they are taken to eliminate and reduce magical threats. The Space wolfs would have got their buts kicked without sister assistance at prospero ! Imagine 1,000 space wizards all over your arse !
The warlord trait everyone’s going to go for I think is silent judge i’m sorry a trait that is a 3 inch or of no more object is crazy on a 50 point model and all the cost is 1CP
Solar Watch warlord trait - friendly infantry unit (not custodes)?. So there are two shield hosts that would be good in a soup? Also Praetorian plate relic - from friendly non-custodes unit?
I remember when they released the small codex to play custodes guards and 2 years later they received a nice codex with some cool miniatures. This feels like back to that small codex to use for fun. They could have just done nothing and it would be better.
@@MrCaryk its too soon to tell but it sure doesnt feel exciting as a new codex should feel. They also left out all the custodes from fw which I could understand for other armies but custodes is 50% fw. So we get a codex for half our army very lazy money grab book.
This is awesome. Thank you so much for you hard work. Do you have any guess on when they will update the forge world custodes as about half their units are on forge world?
I feel like the Sagittarum Custodes are still a good choice for backline objectives at least as a 1 of, they will be pretty durable in cover & could earn their points back over the game at range
Points changes after a week, what a joke. Also, noticed this with the secondary objective auric mortalis; isn't it possible to get negative VP? I mean, you could pick Mortarion (Not that you would) then never kill him while he cuts his way through your army. This codex really is terrible.
The problem I see with an all Sisters of Silence army is the lack of heavy weapons or heavy units in general. I can only see a pure sisters detachment being viable in a 500 or 1000 point game.
CORRECTIONS: Apologies, the army wide heroic intervention stratagem is 3" normally. It's only 6" if the unit has heroic intervention normally. Means Aquilan shield do have more of a point and it makes characters have a 6" threat range.
Also the Sisters of Silence trait I mentioned apparently doesn't GRANT obsec but instead takes it away from the opponent within 3". That seems more fitting (and very annoying for the foe!)
Fun note I just learned, and a bit of a spoiler for the second Throne book with Valerian and Aleya.
The reason she can be used for the Teleport Homer strat is because the misericordia she has, which was given to her by Valerian, has a tracking device built into it incase she ever needs his help.
That is some awesome game and story integration.
Right, I totally forgot about that thanks for the reminder!
@@Maztermox it's so neat!
Jesus dude. The amount amount effort is stunning! At least 5-6 other videos this week and you come out with this?! You deserve a break, and a few more subscribers!
And you know In 24-48 hours time he’ll have another one of these for GSC…
He is the hero the imperium needed😅
Best rules analysis channel out there.
This guy gets it
@@andrewbakescakes9684 yeah nobody makes content like this it seems, just painting building etc
In compensation for the Loss of the 3++ of the Custodian Guard's Shields they could have given them a standard -1 to hit in melee same as the galatus owns or a sweaping profile for the blades to double the attack profile. That would have been a really solid tweak to even tackle some of custodes struggle against hordes and to justify the points increase in contrast to the overall buff to the now superior spears.
The biggest, most atrocious nerf in the new codex is clearly the cover art.
The eighth edition cover is objectively superior.
Honestly, all of the 8th Edition artwork looks better. Each one has this impact to it, almost as if the character is about to jump out at you. The 9th Edition ones just seem... disinterested.
@@ryanjackson6298 I think the T’au codex and gsc codex cover art look better then their 8th, but I agree with you on a lot of the others.(special edition black templar not included)
@@ryanjackson6298 the only thing better about the 9e Custodes cover art is that it has a Sister of Silence on it. Otherwise it's just worse.
@@ryanjackson6298 It's as if 8th Art was made by someone who loves Warhammer and to make art, and 9th is made by someone who has been commissioned. I know they both were commissioned, but that is besides the point.
HELL NO
The only review i watch when a codex drops 👌
My complaint about the codex isnt about the "nerf" but more the feel of the faction.
this was suppose to be the codex where we can truly play as "Talons of the Emperor"/"10,000 Heroes"; but instead we just got balancing update for codex 8.5.
- we cant really use sos more freely since limited to 1 unit per custodes unit in the detachment; shouldve been 1 sos unit per any custodes unit and no such restriction if sos HQ is also taken).
- many stratagems are from previous codex, nerfing the ones most commonly used and balancing ones from psychic awakening that made custodes feel like expensive space marine instead of its own faction.
- the normal custodes units (not characters) didnt get base stats buff; making the units not feel as elite as other factions. custodian guard only has 3W and 3A while other faction's elite units has same or even more, custodes terminator is just a custodian guard with +1W and +1A with no defense buff while deathwing has 4+ wound only, custodian warden stats is still shit, etc. Like common sob babycarrier is S5 T5 4W 2+ 3/4A -1D WTF
- the way ka'tah was implemented just doesnt make sense in any martial arts sense. martial artist changes their stance based on the situation not going through it a steps-manual like "some old people gathering wushu" shit.
- wheres the free teleport deepstrike for all custodes (at least for infantry), wheres the finest weapons of the imperium (D2 is meh now since many units has it and theres alot of invul sv and -1D, also wth paesidium shield), wheres all the single individual heroes (all custodes shouldve been able to be fielded with 1 model), and on and on and on.
Custodes/talons just dont feel how they should be in the lore, instead we got some "tournament meta balance" (im assuming most of the custodes playtesters mostly played with the 8.5 meta from what i see, instead of suggesting drastic changes to make Custodes/Talons unique). Dont get me wrong, I think custodes will be decent in tournaments with this codex but Im the guy who is fine with custodian guard to be like 60 or 70pt if it will make them "emperor's finest" and also wanted to field sisters more.
P.S. Aupex, we appreciate on what you do for us but dont die for the emperor just yet
I used to tell friends starting out in the hobby to play Custodes. They weren’t “that guy” stupid overpowered I win buttons, but they were very forgiving, you only needed a handful of models to play, so cheap to start and easy to keep track of units due to their small numbers.
Now, you have to know, I believe, 52 stratagems. 6 different Shield Hosts and their 9 traits, 6 Martial Katahs and 12 stances…for an edition they were trying to streamline to “speed up play” (hence no overwatch and a smaller board) they sure are making it complicated.
The amount of book keeping that they've added to armies now is getting ridiculous.
To be fair, while the complexity has gone up, games do seem to be faster from my reckoning. Although I was a noob in 8th and now with 9th i have experience
You're pretty evil then. They are not forgiving. The nost punished army gor losing any model
@@CloudianMH But what it takes to LOSE that model. And when you are trying to learn this increasingly complicated game, an “army” of 12 guys is pretty easy to keep track of. Much easier than 2000 points of Craftworld, Orks, Tyranids. Or the complexities of Admech. Or the concentrating on one thing like 1000 Sons or Grey Knights. I guess Craftworld, if painted right, are easy. “All these colors do this only. All these colors do this.” Space Marines cause they can take a hit. But to learn? Custodes are pretty forgiving. Make a mistake with Eldar, lose an entire unit. With Custodes, lose a guy. Isaac played a number of games before finally deciding on Tau of all things. Brave man to pick Tau as your first army in 9th edition.
@@CloudianMH sure but they are cheap and easy to learn. I was new to 40k with 8th playing admech and it's both hella expensive and confusing when you first start because of all the options.
I'll miss my close Teleport Homer, and My Unstoppable Destroyer moonwalking out of combat after fighting.
GW should support you more noone else does consistent no-BS 40k content like you!
WH+ should have been a version of WH-tube; one place for all your fan stuff as its base.
Silent judge actually turns off obsec within 3", instead of granting the sos cap obsec. Pretty sweet
That's hilarious, how annoying that could be :)
Cheers for that, must have misread. I'll post a correction above!
Can't wait for the GSC review!
Get this man a vacation, nerf his work schedule
Woh, woh, woh. GW is slow enough on their own that that's more than enough down time for our favorite cogitator. ;)
On the plus side we can still play 30k …
My one complaint is that sisters aren't MSU 4 if you build a Knight-Centura. Weird considering that Allarus Terminators are MSU 1 if you build the Shield-Captain and Vexilus Praetor in that box
This is why I kitbashed myself a Knight Centura with a female stormcast and sister bits.
@@pinoarias8601 Wouldn't that made a way too big character ? stormcast are pretty big after all^^
3d print one, even a SoB with SoS head and put the box sword on it to satisfy the based around GW parts rule. I mean surely the big special relic sword is most important, right?
@@malekith13 She's about a head larger than the sisters, nothing that a little basing magic can't fix
@@kamaeq not even, you can run em with flamers and bolters too.
I believe they are going for ka'tah being pronounced like kata (as in forms in martial arts). There's plenty of 'etymology' in 40k that mutates words in the setting.
Great video, thank you!
Reminds me that the Eldar word for human is mon'keigh (monkey). LOL
Dare I say it, but this seems kind of balanced at first glance? I'm happily surprised as I was half-expecting these guys to come out OP as all heck.
Still worried that the Tau & Eldar will be super broken upon release though so... 🤞
i definetly agree. Only worry is that they fall behind if powercreep keeps up so lets hope they fix that
honestly not looking forward to how gw are going to buff the tau because i feel they're gonna go balls to the walls to ensure that tau can wipe an army in a single shooting phase
Balanced means it's utter crap, if of the last dozen Codexes, ten were a ton of power creep!
Make every codex equally balanced, or make every Codex equally OP.
You gotta admit, it's funny how the whole "stated purpose" of 9th edition was to streamline and speed up the pace of the game, and then they spent the entire edition making the most convoluted, complex mechanics for literally every army.
I love some complexity in how mechanics interact, but I do not like having to memorize page long rules and mechanics for literally every army in my local meta.
Thanks to you for making it a tad bit more bearable and concise lol. Also, take a nap dude. You're insane, and we love you.
The best thing about Hero Quest is that it doesn't have complicated game mechanics or a local meta.
@@musicalcharge is saying it doesn't have a local meta supposed to be a joke that no one plays Hero Quest?
This. Games might go a little faster, but only if you know the stratagems well. Between that, the staggered Codex releases, and covid delays, your rules could be spread across multiple books, magazines, and digital articles. Imagine being a Nids player right now. You have to track your rules across a Codex, Psychic Awakening, Imperial Armory, and a White Dwarf.
@@luxumbra7602 The best thing about Hero Quest is that you can never be too sure whether "the best thing about Hero Quest" jokes are serious or not.
So now somebody playing as or against Custodes has to remember 12 stances that have different effects and changes in the command phase? This is taking complexity to a whole other level.
you choose only 3 at the start of the game, after deploying, before rolling who goes first.
And they are secret, you have to note them down on your army sheet.
@@azir64 yeah but you have to anticipate what 3 your opponent has out of a possible 12
@@greyt00th tbf, I think that Calistus, Rendax/Dacatarai and Kaptaris, in that order, will be the standard Katahs used. Early game use of Calistus to advance up the board towards objectives, Rendax or Dacatari to do all the heavy midgame fighting, and finally Kaptaris to deny the opponent any last minute tricks or gambits.
@@KC-kl6qc It's interesting to think of the possibilities, but I think Callistus - Salvus - Conservai become a common line; since we lose the 3++ from storm shields moving into more shooting has it's place so those Ka'Tahs help.
I really like Conservai, T4 shoot and act, with T5 fall back/advance and sneak in another one means potentially 8-10pt (with right secondaries) on those last 2 turn could turn a game easily.
it’s not like people are going to use all of them. it’s the same deal with necron protocols and no one has issues with that
Very Disappointed in this Codex. I was so excited for it to come out and now it's left a bitter taste in my mouth.
EDIT: Apparently it has some nifty tricks so I still have hope in the codex.
ummmmm.... how??? It's way better now lol.
Well this is really underwhelming. How sad that the Custodes are nerffed into oblivion.
Yeah, I'm not buying the new codex. Paying GW to make my army worse feels...wrong.
@AstroCharles Gw just dont want to buff army, that can be bought by 3-4 boxes. no business profits.
Bravo 👏 👏. Great video. I feel like I understand these guys far better now. You contribute more to Warhammer than a lot of the GW executives do, I'm sure. I hope they do *something* to say thank you at some point. I don't feel like poking fun at Custodes anymore. With a better color scheme, I could see myself playing them. Thanks again!
so they nerfed AC. thanks no 3+ invul. no transuman for wardens. Uselesss shields( btw best shields in Imperium) and etc etc.... Kxm BA CODEX ALL OVER AGAIN. x)) not so bad, but still mediocre. Balanced codex in a world of abominations which we had before. hah.
it legit feels exactly like the BA codex over again . same bad taste even worse for BA though they only got to use the pychic awakening for i think 9 months
@@jameshouse2588 i am just a curse for a factions that i love deeply. except grey knights, but they are immune to curses xDDD. Still.. who cares. Struggle is a nature of Imperium. Per aspera ad astra
I am so early that the emperor isn't on the golden throne
waiting for that patrol box to start my first army.. I may get weak and get the box with the blade champion.
also that custodes combat patrol has 2 bikes in the picture but it isn't listed posted on the combat patrol page 🤔
a small correction: wisdom of the moritoi allows you to choose whether you want to reroll hit or wound rolls of 1. adds some flexibilty and makes it a little better, i guess
Really disappointed in this codex, the golden boys are a joke
Lol for saying your own faction “a joke” without realizing you can do stuff you can never do with a bit of brainwork. You my boy, are a hot steaming pile of joke.
@@JasonTan-63887 Yeah but can I get a 3++? Checkmate.
@@fox21231 Could you get ignore Invuls and the ability to kill Ctan Nightbringer in 1 turn without psychic? Right back at you mate. Checkmate.
@@fox21231 lmao you really know nothing about the Golden Boys aside from that 3++ dont you? Lol happy to get rid of it. 3 guards should not being able to tank 20 shots of melta without taking a hit.
@@JasonTan-63887 don't they take only 3 wounds for phase?
Tyranids get 3+ Invuls and custodes don't. feels bad man.
As other people have said, it seems your content and the depth you go into, it’s basically unrivalled 💯🔥 Very appreciated by someone relatively new getting into the game
Would be very interesting hearing your thoughts of implementing Forge World units into lists. Are there meaningful downsides using them as long as their Datasheets are not updated...?
Without a FW update, whiny dickheads will claim none of them get any of the new benefits from army wide rules and auras.
Don't think it won't happen given the sheer idiocy over the 5th Ed Necron codex reanimation rules TOs caved on, where they ruled certain attacks disallowed reanimation (based on the prose style of one codex author written in two codices by claiming semantically equivalent phrases meant different things) while simultaneously ruling against using the same interpretation logic to deny the resulting unkillable Necron units left on the field to contest objectives.
Well... technically speaking... the Forge World units got the necessary keywords already AND they do have the Aegis of The Emperor ability. The only thing they seem to be missing is the "Martial Ka'Tah" ability for the Aquilons and Fancy Spears. So "those guys" can't complain about you using them. At least I think so.
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Can't wait to break out a spreadsheet everytime I start a game to remember my damn Ka'tahs... my whole strategy revolved around a shield wall holding the center while bikes took objectives, so it looks like I'm going to either have to get new models (dreads or sag) or relearn how to fight with my boys...
well bikes can still go around capping objectives a unit of 4 counts as 8 models and they have no problem wiping most stuff off with shooting+melee
Its a really simple mechanic, it was just worded poorly.
You’re really undervaluing the boosts to mobility from Solar Watch, they’re probably the best/most important buffs custodes can get. Since they lost the 3+ invuln and are already really killy the most important thing you can do is get them into the enemy as fast as possible, the ability to fall back and charge(or fall back and shoot with the maneuver stratagem) is huge with the bikes and that relic spear synergizes super well with tip of the spear.
As a new custodes player this actually really made me reconsider how I build my first list
Corection: Fraternity of Heroes allows you to Heroically Intervene with any unit 3". You only get a 6" if that unit was already able to Heroically Intevene. Actually makes Aquillan Shield a bit more interesting to look at, though not by much.
Thanks for the catch, will post a correction above!
Custodes: "Uhh, how come my shield stopped working?"
This is so dumb, glad I pulled my golden boy just to put them back,im gonna play a real space marine army
Press F for the Pure plastic custodes dream, getting watered down with sisters and FW
there are plastics sisters tho?
@@zaganim3813 pure custodes means no sisters 🤷🏼♂️
Peerles warrior (6's to hit = 1 extra hit and 6's to wound = an additionl mortal wound) should have been army wide.
The reroll 1 hit, 1 wound roll per combat phase too.
Oh and the shields only give an extra ap now ? nothing extra to compensate for the loss of the extra invuln? not extra toughness, no extra wound ? nothing ?
Alright then..........
Terminators should have ignored ap1-2 gotten t6 and dmg 3 axes, if it wasnt army wide for the axes.
Bikers should have kept reroll failed wound rolls on the charge.
I totally agree. If the 3++ absolutely needed to go, give them extra wound, toughness or -1 dmg, maybe +2 armor even. Spending 5 points more for an 1+ and a much worse weapon is completely stupid!
This is a huge nerf and neither Ka'tah nor even Shield company traits can remotely even make up for it.
They should have made the Army more elite, not less. This Codex is a huge letdown, and pretty much also a straight downgrade, in a period of otherwise insane power creep.
Valerian also has the Nightbringers ignore wound rule!
Thats actually pretty massive
Whered you get that from?
@@dewseff8492 on his data sheet built into his spear “Each time an attack made with this weapon is allocated to an enemy model, that enemy model cannot use any rules to ignore the wounds it loses.”
I’ve found a few people talking about it and saw it in a review someone did on TH-cam. Saw the datasheet and everything. The Spear also has an extra point of AP for -4.
Yeah but the reason the Nightbringer is (was) so scary is that it *also* ignores invulnerable saves, which Valerian doesn't.
@@priorityordersdiscarded7868 If it's true that "enemy models cannot use any rules to ignore wounds" that means it bypasses normal saves, invulns, AND FNP.
While I like the idea of the codex I think it's a bit of a miss. Takes one of the simplest to collect armies with uncomplicated rules to a very complicated army with only half its rules. Not taking Forge World units into account is pretty unforgivable given half the units are FW. I foresee Custodes being either being FAQed or we'll have to wait for a new FW book to update or worst of all... they put better rules in a campaign book.
Pretty sure that FW units have already been updated.
I dislike the codex, as well, but for a different reason.
@@thetaomegatheta They dont have the Kahtah or whatever keyword and we don't know if any of their weapons are auric. Or if the different spears will get their profiles updated. At least not that Ive seen so far.
>Easy to collect and play
That's GW's issue with Custodes lol.
@@yaoiboy the spears are auric. they're bladed shooting weapons like the others
Yeah... the fact that FW stuff didn't got updated at the same time, or the fact that GW couldn't even be bothered to port ONE unit from FW into plastic (like their amazing dreads) is just... so GW.
I love your videos, you're awesome. Keep up the good work, this HAS to be tedious. lol
I'd rather keep the 3+ stormshield than the 6+ against mortals
Completely understandable it's definitely better. But it's also utterly unfun to play against. GW might be bad at spotting unfun stuff until it's live but they do actually seem to prioritise fixing it now.
The codex seems really good from an internal balance perspective, multiple interesting ways to play the army, some very fluffy recurring themes such as deadly buffs against monsters and characters. I think it’s been well balanced by the nerfs to 3+ invulnerable saves and loosing a couple of good strats.
okay, so now their just golden space marines - WORSE golden space marines. Their entirely super elite and most of their new strategems and things are only good when you take A LOT of models - but wait...we can't cuz oh yeah we got like 20 models total. 3+ invuln wasn't OP why do i say that? Custodes even WITH THAT was only B tier at best. Now you took that and some of the best stratagems away and gave us a very shitty Kat'ah system that is retarded as hell to utulize and sisters of silence - that we can't technically field and you have to take them as a secondary army slot costing you 3 cp to field an all custodes army or its illegal to use them because GW is a bunch of quacks.
Full price for 20 profiles? No thanks.
Just as a reminder, all relics based on auric weapons are auric weapon, so yeah the gatekeeper can shot up to 8 shots F5 PA2 ( 3 if dread ost at less than 9" from the ennemy ) D2 auto hit, not very optimized but nice in friendly games^^
Sounds like fun in overwatch against melee marines.
Wow GW literally did nothing with the new Codex except add overly complicated and underwhelming 'doctrines/command protocols' 🤦
You are the MASTER ok 40K PowerPoint! Love your videos, thanks for putting this up.
It's been a year since you dropped this video - how well would you say this Codex has aged?
Can you also post a video about the buffs and nerfs that you'd give the Custodes if it was your call?
For me, playing Custodes now feels like DA Deathwing in gold instead of „everyone is a hero in its own right“.
And thats the reason the codex is a big fail for me.
Except, DA Deathwing are much better. More durable, better damage output. Sad time to be a custodes player.
Hell yea. DA terminators are better than custodes. What a time to be alive.
What a slap in the face. Impossible to remember rules and nerfs as the average codex gets more and more broken.
People on reddit crying saying the army sucks, but the book is fantastic so far. if you think a 3++ going away is going to lose you games.... it won't. sooo many easy strats for dmg mitigation, which are not too expensive, some insanely good relics, Captain Commanders are balanced and definitely upgraded, and D2 is not an issue with the new Datacarai(?) ka'tah. No obsec bikes is fine. if you can't take a target off an objective with them, you probably aren't playing them right! it definitely takes a bit of practice but in my opinion this book is an upgrade, and I've played Stodes since they were playable as a faction. The flexibility we have now is great. Also Trajann. Wow!
So a rhino holds 10 sos can I have two different squads in it such as a 5 man squad of witch seekers and a 5 man squad of vigilators? If so that might be a nice wombo combo
As always your content and its delivery speed is inmaculate Auspex. But on the flipside, this codex feels like a spit in the face to custodes player, they became overcomplicated and less effective for no reason at all. Its honestly astonishing someone read these rules next to both their own old codex and the rest of this current edition codexes and went "Yeah this is alright".
Haven’t watched the video yet, but how are they less effective?
@@HighMarshalBiggusDickus Their costs didnt go down at all and they have become less durable overall, which is something that is supposed to be compensated by katah's but if your enemy knows about them they can avoid them making their benefits situational.
@@martinrudolph5938 their costs have gone down. I don't know anyone who wanted custodes prices to drop. I think this is the army that you make everything better and increase prices. I can think of 3 strats that should've just been baked into the units datasheet and given the book 3 more strats lol
@@Alex-dr1ez that would have been better yeah
unleash the lions sounds like a lot of fun with Emperor's chosen; each terminator gets a re-roll whenever they shoot or fight meaning the Fighting Style is 3x-6x as effective depending on the unit size.
So, to sum up 95% of the comment section here: 'Muh armee carnt orto win tern won ennymoar, this sukksssss, jeedublyou hates custoadees!'
You're right but they're right too XD
Auspex tactics is the true new hero of this release. Thanks for sharing
No, the Magnifica is nerfed. Instead of -1 to hit + cover bonus, now you only get -1 to hit even if in cover PLUS losing the bonus to any ignores cover rule.
Defensor took anti-ally nerf without the large 5++ aura to allied infantry.
Have to see what the big post release FW/GW FAQs change up. Already seeing rumors of continued points drops in FW unit cost, a change to misericordia costs and a maybe buff to the shields
I just finished assembling my custodes, now with this new codex released and everyone crying over and over about it Im worried about having my pre-oder, but will make the best out of it.
Also we have to wait for the other half of the codex and how the FW minis will do.
I think it's too early to cry right now, there are surely some hidden combos
The FW models already have the core rules updates, etc so do not expect an update anytime soon.
TH-cam comments are always complaints. You won't know what to think about your army until you play them and have a feel for them.
@@azir64 Oh cool, I didnt knew.
@@Ahivalaostia88 i played a 1000p game vs them with my blood angels, managed to kill 3 guards and 3 bikes in one turn, still got crushed lol. You will be fine! :D
When can you be sponsored by GW or just hired Lol
Seems like a all around nerf to custodes
man these guys were already pretty good, I had a hard fight against them playing guard...
So how does Forge world get involved?
Dacatarai 2 will also be good into DR1. For 3 attack models you'll effectively get the damage you lost going to D2 back. For attack stat higher models it's not quite as good but it'll help.
Wait a min. No Stooping Dive on Jetbikes?! This atrocity cannot go unnoticed. Stopping Dive was so good!. GW killing me by removing it.
So pretty much we still need to run a stack of FW units ... ventari are obsec and core/fast moving .. dreadnoughts are still awesome with the telemon or gallatus both with 4++ invuls baked in .. be interesting to see the initial FAQ in the next week to bring inline the new point changes and what keywords get put into FW units... Aquilions could be awesome if they become auric lastrum bolters :) plus they are Str 5 x 2 with their -4 /D2 fists .so they could be very good at punching out stuff ...
Fingers crossed Sagitarum guard get Auric on their golden bolters as well :)
GW should just at this stage make Land Raiders a Legend unit or just bump them up into LOW and give them 20 wounds/5++ and -1D or some ignore Ap1 rules .
Yeah... so GW didn't rolled the FW updates at the same time than the codex, so basically half the army is still missing.
It's just extremely unprofessional of them to not do thos updates at the same time than the codex.
The codex isn't even out yet, it's only on preorder
Just a note Fraternity if heroes does not give a 6 inch heroic intervention to any unit. It only increases the distance to 6 inches if they already could intervene, otherwise it just allows a normal heroic intervention.
Excellent video. As an aspiring custodes player, I greatly appreciate the effort you put into this.
So does that mean then that if you take an Anathema Psykana detachment you can't take any custodes units? And if so how far does that extend? For example could I use custodes vehicles like the land raider?
Sick of these lazy releases by GW. They could have released a vehicle/dreadnought upgrade kit sprue at the very least.
i like how he makes it seem like Dreadknights are so tough that the Rendax martial katah is
going to make a difference. they're only T6, so other than sentinel blades, the entire army wound them on 3's in melee. unless he's talking about shooting, which overall, the katah is only going to net you maybe 1-2 wounds per unit.
Have to say this book was kinda disappointing we still don't even have a way to get reliable mortal wounds (outside that one trait) and only some things got the extra attack. Oh and that one banner but that's more incidental. These martial skills seem cool but it's such an odd grab bag of specificly useful stuff. Like how often is no consolidation into you when they are already in engagement range useful? And why would you change Victor of the blood games (to remove hard pregame decisions supposedly) just to add something more changeable and specifically useful?
It's official, you don't sleep!
56:40, Custodes probably have more morale because they don't have glitches.
It is no criticism of you at all when I say I haven’t got a friggin’ clue what these rules around Ka’tahs and stances are saying
It's possible to build a competitive army withou forgewolrd?
not a big fan of the kata, way to much book keeping for my dyslexic brain.
So what do we lose for souping some guard or something now? Just the obsec or do we lose shield host also
You just don't get the Ka'tahs
@@Sir_Tomoyuki I'm actually fine with that as I hate the katas and the extra book keeping.
@@rmkarros Ha ha ha! That's what I did with Skitarii or Adeptus Mechanicus! I couldn't care less about the Imperative Doctrinas and Canticles because I soup them with my Imperial Knights!
@@Sir_Tomoyuki ya mine are going to be with guard so I'm actually really glad I won't have to rember it all. serously my dyslexic ass just can't deal with it lol.
Is the Aquilian Shield's Shield of Honour Stratagem applicable only to non-vehicle Imperium Characters? Or it's just straight out all Imperium Characters now?
I saw a post that was about getting a SoS HQ Warlord with the obsec removal trait within 3 inches and some Allarus Terminators as bodyguards to just move on an obective and I think that could be quite funny. Just like "Nah, this is mine now" even before having killed the enemy's obsec troops.
Not sure if you siad or I missed it, but MIsericordias: are they free for units or just cost more for HQ (I know they were 3 points each in previous edition)? You said price for HQ (+5) but not other units, if I'm not mistaken.
While tastefull this codex is a nerf,
Anyone thinking otherwise is high on Copium haha.
You made a mistake, Silent Judge removes obsec from hostile units within 3 inches it doesn't give objects. Good video otherwise.
Emperor's Chosen seems pretty good to me.
I like the way the sisters work , they are taken to eliminate and reduce magical threats. The Space wolfs would have got their buts kicked without sister assistance at prospero ! Imagine 1,000 space wizards all over your arse !
The warlord trait everyone’s going to go for I think is silent judge i’m sorry a trait that is a 3 inch or of no more object is crazy on a 50 point model and all the cost is 1CP
Hi Henry!😀
So we don't have anything apart from 4+ to negate a psiker?
Solar Watch warlord trait - friendly infantry unit (not custodes)?. So there are two shield hosts that would be good in a soup? Also Praetorian plate relic - from friendly non-custodes unit?
I remember when they released the small codex to play custodes guards and 2 years later they received a nice codex with some cool miniatures. This feels like back to that small codex to use for fun. They could have just done nothing and it would be better.
I dont play custodes nor know any of their rules. Is it a bad book?
@@MrCaryk its too soon to tell but it sure doesnt feel exciting as a new codex should feel. They also left out all the custodes from fw which I could understand for other armies but custodes is 50% fw. So we get a codex for half our army very lazy money grab book.
@@3v3rhard all the foreworld units were all updated already with core. Etc.
@@seriade but they are not in the book that was my point nor are any of them revised or updated except some keywords.
@@3v3rhard FW is never in the codex, EVER!
This is awesome. Thank you so much for you hard work.
Do you have any guess on when they will update the forge world custodes as about half their units are on forge world?
It'll probably only happen if/when Horus Heresy becomes GW and not FW because the FW units are Horus Heresy Units
@@GetOverHereGaming13 wut, the FW units have been updated several times for 40k
@@zaganim3813 I mean as their releases were for Horus Heresy
No double bike HQ makes me sad. I only have 2 bikes so now one is useless.
I feel like the Sagittarum Custodes are still a good choice for backline objectives at least as a 1 of, they will be pretty durable in cover & could earn their points back over the game at range
I audibly exclaimed "Holy shit dude!" when I saw the video pop up with that lenght.
I dunno if im dumb but did the forge world sheets get updated?
I think going shadowkeepers with the blade master taking the WLT will be hilarious! Lol
Points changes after a week, what a joke.
Also, noticed this with the secondary objective auric mortalis; isn't it possible to get negative VP? I mean, you could pick Mortarion (Not that you would) then never kill him while he cuts his way through your army.
This codex really is terrible.
The objective actually says you cant get negative with it, it cant go lower than 0 VP
So is a Captain Commander a different datasheet from the Captains??
Codex not fun to play or play against there i fixed the name
The problem I see with an all Sisters of Silence army is the lack of heavy weapons or heavy units in general. I can only see a pure sisters detachment being viable in a 500 or 1000 point game.