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Thank you, finally, somebody said it. I don't understand why people suddenly forget who she is and what she does. She is a Creative Director who specializes in Brand Image. She's been doing it for decades and she is extremely good at it. If she can brand a group of teenagers as a representation of Y2K, then she can brand herself as a common worker who is abused by the company. In truth, she is the CEO of a rapidly growing label who got paid by the millions and has 18% shares of the company. She is richer than every artist under Hybe, including BTS members who built Hybe. Do people think she randomly picks the clothes from her wardrobe and goes with it? No, from the regular clothes to her choices to go up there alone with no makeup and bawling her eyes out, it's all part of the image that she wants to convey. Make no mistake, Hybe is no saint either, but in this case, it's clear that the Kind CEO is the one who wants to manipulate the public's opinion. If she is not guilty, then let them do their audit, attend the shareholders meeting, and prove you're innocent there. We of the international community can smell rich and powerful people's BS from a mile away.
💯💯💯 Indeed, that's what I have always thought after the presscon. If she's truly innocent, why is she not acting to clear her name by returning Hybe's laptop and allow herself to be audited? If there's something wrong with the result of the audit, that's the time when she can call out Hybe for being unfair, etc. She's a CEO who's answerable to Hybe and its share holders.
People just want any excuse to criticize a big company. All they asked was for her to turn in her computer and she refused. That's enough to suspect her. I don't understand the cultural nuances but I know damn well that she's up to no good
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Turn over your laptop or computer and we will not have this discussion. She is trying to land a role in the K drama great manipulator. Korean public wake up and see the truth and reality.
As a woman I was offended! She played on every single feminine stereotype type that we try to avoid. She commented on the common man whilst earning millions of dollars. And her over emotional connections to the girls was too much. The worst thing for me is how blinded the Korean population is. If they heard what she said and was like I “but…” they have not questioned anything. Mind blown!🤯
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i am korean and sadly i have to admit that koreans are easily to be manipulated by emotion. we often judge based on compassion and feelings than dry facts. remember depp and his wife case in the usa. people in usa didn't fall for the emotion tactics.
And one of your fellow countrymen commented on my comment and she's insisting that MHJ is really innocent and being bullied by Bang PD regarding in this matter. She even lied that she's working, but upon checking her TH-cam channel? She's a student. This woman really did a good job in fabricating her narrative.
@@via45 What matters is that Johnny Depp did not do what she publicly accused him of, taking care not to report it to the police. So she defamed him, and that's a fact.
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As an international person, I saw through her attitude instantly. Dressed sloppily to look like a victim? Lifting her cap up every time she shed tears so that everyone could see? Overconfidence and unwilling to take advice from her lawyers despite apparently being a very soft and easily manipulated person? Laughable.
Guaranteed she told her lawyers to try to stop her so that she could pretend she just has to tell the truth at any cost. The way the lawyers acted trying to reign her in was even more performative than she was.
Totally! Her sincerity didn't jump out of the screen, most especially telling is when she FAILED to address the real issue: why is Ador being audited? why she didn't return her laptop (owned by Hybe)? did she expose internal confidential information about the company to foreign investors (without the knowledge of Hybe) and confidential employee information? The things she said in the presscon are not topics that you can bring down Hybe for. But it did tell how dissatisfied she is that she cannot have full control of ADOR--which is why she wanted to get out of Hybe. Keeping in mind that she even admit (or slipped) that she tried to think of a way to leave taking NJ with her. *lol* ... She's that transparent!
Min Hee-Jin is a narcissist, and she is on her way to one-upping Amber Heard in the crazy dept. I find it ridiculously hard to believe anything she has to say. I don't know all about the Korean culture, but I am firmly rooted in American culture, business, branding, etc. and trust we have the same craziness here as well. I don't have to be Korean to understand what Min Hee-Jin was trying to pull and it has nothing to do with being so in love w/New Jeans. Her press conference was completely unprofessional, big on hysterics and noticeably short on substance & facts. With all the moaning she was really going for the Oscar, but she couldn't even manage a tear. Min Hee-Jin is Du Lu Lu if she really believes she created something new for New Jeans. It's ok to rip off past concepts, but then don't have the nerve to say someone else is coping you. I agree this is all about money and her desire to takeover Ador. Min Hee-Jin doesn't strike me as someone who plays well with others. You always have to watch your back. HYBE isn't perfect, but I believe they're one of the better organizations, foreign or abroad. All this fake news about cults and payola is really hurting their image. This is weird thinking. It does not help HYBE AT ALL if Min Hee-Jin fails. And you don't have to like each other to work together. I do not believe HYBE isn't/hasn't supported her or been more than fair. If she would have gotten the ridiculous share price she was asking, there wouldn't be an issue. I hate the way she's made this such a public matter. I truly dislike the way she's dragged other groups into her mess, and I hate the way she's smearing HYBE without any facts, but a whole lot of her just being extra. I really hope HYBE can prove their case in court, because they need to protect what they've built. OMG where is BTS when you need them. Sorry for the rant 😊. Thanks for covering this matter. It's been informative and great!
I'm sorry idk the details of the amber heard case as I'm not American and didn't keep up with it, all i know is that public initially believed her but later her lies got out, so I'm asking you, what was her outcome after the court? Did she go to jail? Also, does she have aquaintance people/friends working in the media who still support her?
@@madkmadk6809 she was asked to pay a huge sum of money as compensation to Johnny Depp for false accussation. She said she didn't had that money . That all i know
@@btsnu wait but i thought she was a rich lady because she hired lawyers and stuff. How can she not have money. Also didn't she abused johnny too? Why's she not in jail
@@madkmadk6809 yeah but apparently she is some debt or something n unable to gave that much money. ( I don't know about the latest news . Maybe she has given it now). And yes she did abused Johnny . She beat him and injured his finger.
Koreans are emotional and proud of it. As soon as Min cried and was hysterical, people turned on sympathy mode and turned off logic. Koreans told me that number one crime in Korea is swindlement. Believe them. They are kind people, but too kind (sometimes). I like your analysis :) CU next . . . Was funny
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@@mitsuki0_0- Theres no clarity to ILLEGAL activity and that includes leaking trainee documents get a fucking grip of so sick of y'all this excuse & this fucking cult
Kind people..?💀 the ones who demand their idols to be fired over having a love life?? The ones who drag drug users trough the mud and even wish death upon them but then turn around a support their favorite r@pis celebrity?
As someone from the UK I was really surprised to see people believing this performance. The victim dressing, fake tears, rambling on and on. It was very clear to see it was an act for sympathy. I personally do not think the tears were because she was upset but more because she had been caught out !
She didn’t fool me either. Why would Bang PD destroy his reputation for 13yrs. existing hard work, all the staff and all the artists hard work. She came to the company and said that Bang Pd didn’t treat her well, seriously is she in puberty or menopause. Be real, is this a copy of a KDrama, too. Yap, She’s just greedy 😏.
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She's a PR woman She knows how to win the Korean public based on appearances, thats how Koreans judge people, well thats how International see it. International people aren't that fooled by appearances. I see it very manipulative. I'd love to see Min Hyejin have a lie detector test.
Some ppl with psych issues can hv no conscience & pass a lie detector test. Hope Hybe gets all its proof. Meantime, the shares went down smch & there are investment houses w/ deep pockets that cn short d company enough for a hostile takeover.
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If I recognize something about hybe, it is that at no time did they mention the girls' names, they only mentioned hers...on the other hand, this woman keeps mentioning the girls every 5 minutes...people say it is a very emotional conference but Just by seeing the reaction of her lawyers one concludes many things...laughter...embarrassment...it seems that they didn't know where to put their heads...how many times did she not let her lawyers speak?? Those giant screenshots, which no one knows if they are real or not since they are very easy to fake, give the impression of a toxic ex-girlfriend, not a CEO.What screenshots have to do with what you are accused of? Nothing, it's just to generate pity and gain public approval, and she won
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@Ggggg1gggg Exactly , as fans we know that the companies are not ángel but this is a bussines, idols are friends , the companies just have a polite relationshipp everything is a competition , people actually thinks that all the music industry is all Pink and rainbow??? Pfff I am surprised that she have corean people with her☠
@Ggggg1gggg tf articles are proof 😂? Where's the proper evidence to that claims ? 💀like some sort official documented evidence, some sort of photo , videos or texts ss ?
Yeah I keep getting ppl saying I know nothing and Hybes audit is shady blah blah blah and I was thinking - these ppl obviously have never worked in a corporate environment before …
Exactly!!! I was thinking the same thing. There’s a lot of folks that seem to not understand the corporate environment. It has nothing to do with different cultures. Business is business and how can an employee refuse to hand over company assets 😂
@@westieseoul I think the issue is that in SK there aren’t actually a lot a people who have been exposed to business practices in legal and HR terms that is pretty standard for MOST countries and businesses - they haven’t signed employee contracts which are pages long and include social media conduct, clauses and brand image clauses. I work in a high position now but even back in the day starting work for a billion dollar entertainment company(cinema) as a 16 yr old, my contract was pretty extensive as to what is proper business company conduct incl social media clauses etc. - I literally manned the candy bar and cleaned cinemas then. 😂
As Korean myself living abroad, I often frustrated how K public are so quick to judge, and quick to blame and attack someone over trivial things, without seeing the whole picture,, and how different mindset they have. MHJ knows exactly what she is doing, she has been planning, and calculating for a while. She knows how K public will empathize her, how easily be swayed by her emotions, be vulnerable to tears, and she knows how to distract and play public. Of course, some antis, and jealous haters might support her no matter what the truth is. Let me be clear, she is not a victim, not an underdog, not a whistle-blower, not an employee who bullied by big company.
> I often frustrated how K public are so quick to judge, and quick to blame and attack someone over trivial things, without seeing the whole picture,, and how different mindset they have. This sounds scary if some of them are making important and serious decisions, such as those work in the govt and key positions. Are there any Korean journalists doing their job of thinking critically, informing the public, and investigating news?
17:21 that's what is baffling, is that there are actually SM and Hybe employees that say how tyranical MHJ is, so it's not as if she played this kind person in the workspace. She only puts on this victim face now
Agree with you. Like when BTS on their early years with BigHit, internationally people loves BTS but not the Korean people until BTS makes it big by winning on billboard anf etc ... they believed all the accusations made by the haters ...
@@lathavaratharajan5071 yes I feel that too even they bring more money in their country, bts they global superstars but some koreans not known bts but as a asian I'm super proud of them
It´s not about if she is lying! That is not the thing! It is that pure fact that she goes public to wash all dirty laundry! THAT is not a proffesional way to behave in a company/corporate! She should have fufilled HYBES request for her laptop...but she did this instead...probably bc she knows that ppl are so easily manipulsted! The things she brought up is just emotional stuff....you don drive a business like that!
I think she's confident enough that she can manipulate people because she's a branding person... just like what he said here. she knows how to play with the SK people's mind.
I respectfully disagree if the "dirty laundry" are made-up for the purpose of manipulating the public opinion and damaging HYBE for her benefit. But HYBE doesn't play around. Let it play out in court. Since there's nothing I can contribute to my preferred outcome, I focus on RM's upcoming album, Jin's discharge date (D-41 or six more Fridays! 🥰), then Hobi's, and after that the one-year anniversary dates of RM and the maknae line. That's my breakdown for the remainder of 2024. I hope the members of New Jeans and their families get the support they need from HYBE.
Min Hee-jin is good at what she does. She is one of the best brand/pr women in the business. She knows the culture of her people best and with that she was able to easily pull off this con. The clothes, the crocodile tears, I'm one of you, it's not about the money, the cursing, stop taking pictures of me. It was all designed to win sympathy and overlook the real issue. It worked. As for the difference of opinion between international fans and the Korean public I'm not surprised. I can't speak on how wealthy people, politicians or other people of power normally present themselves to the Korean public when they caught up in their own nonsense, but I can say that many international fans have seen this type of clown show many times and can spot someone trying to manipulate and play games. I can safely say that if she came out and put on that performance in the states it would have been game over. Absolutely nobody would believe the words "I'm just like you" from a multi-millionaire with power and the ability to live in a bubble that shields her from the life that most average citizens live. Also, when you can't give a plausible answer as to why you didn't hand in your laptop, it's a wrap. You will not be winning over the public.
As an International fan we may not understand fully Korean culture, it does not mean we can see a press conference and see how unprofessional the person is. They way she under dressed, no make up and the swearing and tears does not inspire us to believe her. We see a manipulator and then we have to wonder if anything she is saying is true. Also as mothers many of us do not understand when she basically kept bringing New Jeans into the conversation. A natural instinct of a mother is to protect their children and not use them to benefit themselves. I understand the Korean point of view and some International fans that they have fallen for her act because Koreans have a reputation for siding with the underdog when it comes to corporates and also they have a very strong cancel culture prior to the evidence being out. Of course New Jeans fans are also siding with her because they are worried what will happen to New Jeans just as BTS fans are majority are supporting Hybe in case it effects BTS. I think because of the ridiculous rumours and horrible accusations that have since come around they have not helped her case as she is actually doing what she had planned to do!
Thanks for being polite and careful about Korean culture , etc but there was nothing she displayed that related to Korean culture at all. She’s just simply a nightmare and I am so embarrassed as a woman, too. And people who fell for her are NOT because of Korean culture tendency. To me, those are either very weak, ignorant people or the enemies who are trying to take HYBE/Bang Pd down. A lot of other Koreans find them very weird and non sensical, hard to believe and almost pathetic. And I think it is universal thing to spot a deceitful, selfish, ungrateful, highly unreasonable, extremely greedy and flat out rude person like her. If some Koreans don’t see that in her, they better wake up and smell the coffee. It will be only damning if they follow that way. She’s unforgivable and should be responsible for such damage she has created for the whole kpop industry, young artists, BTS, Bang Pd and HYBE, so much money lost, etc. And I am sure more people will come to senses when the truths get to be unveiled one by one, soon. But difficult part at the moment is there are enemies, paid puppets by her side, or future investors who want to take over HYBE and people w jealousy , all these are mixed together in this mess, so it is getting harder n harder to clear things up. Just messier n messier day by day… But this too shall pass, right? We just have to try to stand by the truths and disregard the garbages.
She knows what Korean people weaknesses are.. what and how to play the part. Korean people will eventually realize that they were fooled by her victim role. Exactly ,,,, her job is branding so she knows what will resonate to the local audience. International audience has a wider and more complex perspective of the world because we are looking into rather than being in the picture. Master of manipulation. It is all about MONEY...GREAT explanation. Thank you for this video.. .. she is scared of Hybe...believe it or not. Korean public muwt wake up.
little by little her drama came out,she used HYBE money to build her label,then later on she wants to leave and want take all the money,it’s all about money,but HYBE rejected it.
And she apparently demanded the right to end NJ's contracts with HYBE, in order to sever them from the company and establish them as her own personal group. It's reported that HYBE refused and the ADOR board of directors will continue to be the ones with the exclusive rights over the girls' contracts. Taking the group was supposed to be Plan B in the event of her coup failure, so she seems to know she's in for it despite the public sympathy. And I suspect the investigation into her 'foreign funding' sources will scorch that sympathy pretty solidly. Signs are pointing to Kakao, the Chinese giant, and Korean folks will *not* like that.
It’s interesting too see that her side of her story changes every time hybe releases more information… even more chocking to see there’s still people supporting her even tho she’s changing her story daily 💀
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From the very beginning I was skeptical about her, but her conference outfit made me believe 100% she was bullsh!tting. And people are like "she is promoting till the very end, lol 😂". Nobody else finds creepy that she is dressing like her very young, some minor, protégées??????
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i still dont understand. there are people that have only 20% of the company. eventually they can get 0 dollar. please make sure hybe dont pay her a single cent
Unfortunately to me after analyzing the financial and legal situation, it seems like she is in a situation where no matter what happens at court, regardless of if hybe wins or not, she will still walk away with miilions of dollars. She strategized this since years before. Carefully planted somethings ahead of time to make it look like the company is the wrong one. She has solidified the public support too. 😢
Coming out the way she looked at the press conference was the whole idea to get sympathy....the poor little rich girl. Either she dressed that way or her masters told her how to appear. Really, Koreans don't realise how much Bang PD and BTS did for Korea bringing their country to the fore. Wake up and don't let her bring Korea down after all the hard work the companies and artists put Korea on the map
I really laughed at MHJ part of a statement at the presscon where she said that she's just trying to protect NJ "cultural achievements" lol.... well, it WAS BTS and BPD who made the cultural achievement. NJ never achieved a BTS effect even though they are a successful gg.
Most of the common middle income korean are connecting to her saying that they too have faced submission from their bosses. Well they dont understand the difference between her and a normal wage korean . She is a rich woman , powerful and been in the industry for decades . Wish atleast some koreans realise her tactics
@@Teresahkp So, do you trust Min HeeJin? You know, HYBE has more than one sub-label they have to take care of, so of course they need good legal help. If they are truthful then they don't need to buy and manipulate the court. You don't need to trust either but the facts and truth need to be shown. And maybe more lies will be forced out and we'll see the whole truth eventually.
That woul be nice. But if you look at the Johnny Depp / Amber Heard trial, she showed her true colors, the court stated clearly they believe him, not her and STILL she is all over the news as the poor victim. The court of public opinion matters very much too, especially in Korea. What she does will have consequences, already has, no matter what the court will decide.
Stop the drama and just turn over the laptop (which doesn’t belong to her) and answer the charges with facts. A thief and a liar is the same universally in any culture. We all dream about sticking one to the man but it doesn’t give us a pass to commit a crime against the man. Sorry that way of thinking is juvenile, both parties will have their day in court.
Yep, she can be classified as a thief for not returning the lap top which is Hybe property. One could bring a criminal case just on the laptop not being returned, it’s usually enough to fire someone if they keep company property as well.
I actually think that foreigners are likely to be more objective in this situation because we are not emotionally tied to any of those cultural nuances that most Koreans wouldn’t be able to separate themselves from and Koreans are going to have prejudice subconsciously because of that (even if they don’t admit it) whereas we are actually able to view the situation based on the facts available without it being dressed up with ‘fluff’.
I think that's fairly accurate. She's very obviously trying to play on peoples' emotions, and that makes it quite difficult to be objective about the matter. ARMY is protective of BTS and thoroughly disapproves from that side of things, but a lot of ARMYs are just not invested emotionally in HYBE. So they are able to recognize standard corporate behavior and standard legal tactics. It would be different if it was Big Hit that was under fire; ARMYs are a lot more attached to the originating company than to the umbrella company. And then a lot of us Westerners have been coping with malignant narcissists for quite some time now, and have become very good at recognizing those behaviors.
I am from US. I don't give a fuck about either the CEOs. I find the way this is being handled to be an embarrassment on the behalf of the legal professional in Korea.. I like both NewJeans and BTS. I would side with MHJ but neither party is 100% innocent.
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Bless you for covering this madness. I didn't see her appearance, and behavior that way. I kept thinking, if you're telling the truth, and you were confident in that, wouldn't you come out looking business-like, and determined, stating REASONS why the accusations aren't true. I'm not talking about flashy-millionaire-business dress, but even jeans, a blazer, over a tshirt, and your hair tied back neatly, would have made more sense to me. I keep thinking about what G-Dragon went through. 7 days a week, for sure, Sean!😂 I love it, since it seems like people keep trying to drag our Boys into this mess! Not Today, Haters!😉💜
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@@lovelyseo.18 sorry i just tried to spread this message so that the people who loves k-pop and out of Korea could know about the things that are now going in Korea. I didn't mean to spread negativity anyhow. Koreans are failing to communicate with international fans. I just tried my best to let you all know. Now it's your choice to ignore or look at the matter. If you don't like you can skip it.
(Allegedly) NPD is universal. No need for understanding any different cultures. Plus I've been into kpop and Korea for 19 years now. And yes: She clearly IS covering up for things. (Allegedly)
Will HYBE come out and do a major bomb drop on her, that shows she's the biggest liar ever? Even though I'm America I lived in Korea for years and seen the cultural differences. It's true Korean seems to buy the person that comes out first. But when the other side speak it makes those believer turn on the one that came out first. I look forward to the day HYBE drop the bomb shell on her lies. I hope HYBE goes step by step on each allegation to show just how money hungry she really is. ADOR will fail and HYBE is just moving to protect the label before they come out. NEW JEANS will feel the effects of her lies soon. Sorry for NEW JEANS I will not buy any of there music until they leave Min
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19:00 In last 3 years (since 2021) of being BTS ARMY and diving into Korean Culture, one thing become clear to me that Korean Culture is all about pretendence and show-off... This is my understanding...
17:50 i bet she orchestrated bts smear campaign, as well as the meesages about "kind producer". A lot of accounts that spread defamation and false rumors are newly created acca in april, this tells everything ypu need to know
And they should say no! We were all here when HYBE evolved from BigHit and debuted their first girl group, which was NewJeans (please correct me if I'm worng). Where the heck was she then?!
That's not what MHJ asked for, exactly. She asked to eliminate the penalty clause from the NJ contract, which provides for the payment of a penalty if the girls terminate the contract before the deadline expires. But Hybe said no.
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She wanted the power to fire newjeans to then sell her stocks and once she fired Newjeans and Ador crashes she would buy the brand for a coupe millions after stealing 200 MIllion from stocks she bought with Bang Pd's money.
How many times did I see the Knetizens were bad at judging people? From Kim Ji Soo's (the actor) bullying allegations to AOA Jimin vs Mina incident. They were all wrong. They all jumped into the "victim's" side with no regard to logic and facts. Then months later, the accused was proven innocent but it's too late, they already ruined their careers. I guess Koreans are too emotional people, I don't blame them but it shouldn't be an excuse to completely turn off their critical thinking. Their controversies involved life and careers that some of these celebrities commit the unthinkable because the public scrutiny was too mucb to bear for them.
Her presscon can be used in the classroom as the perfect example of how to execute "Noam Chomsky 's 10 strategies of manipulation by the media" successfully. And in addition, unlike Korean netizens, international fans, know her past issues and controversies (her being pedophilic-ish) , never took any accountability to any of those instead gaslit fans to know that she's not innocent here. Regardless of whether she wants ADOR or not out of HYBE, NJ is still not safe being w her.
I have listened to at least, at minimum, 10 korean international kpop fans, korean/american lawyers and korean/american business professionals, all podcasters or youtubers, who speak fluent korean, who didn't need translation-- and everyone that I've watched sees this the same as nearly all foreign fans. It's not a translation thing, no "foreigner" who did even a tiny bit of research lost what happened to translation. Online, I see very childish arguments, based almost entirely on truly incredulous theories of business supporting MHJ. Immediately knew these people were forcing themselves not to see common sense because they were blinded by emotions, or maybe too ignorant to comprehend business. But i think the emotion is not pity towards MHJ, it's hate to HYBE. I think if this story broke with SM, YG, and JYP it wouldn't headline for more than an hour, not days. Everyone, even korean stans, would see it as it is-- a greedy narcissists failed grab for power. Nobody internationally would have even heard of it. End of story, expect HYBE is the great "evil". The irony, the first time I ever heard of MHJ was when kstans, not armies, were shaming HYBE for bringing her in because of her over sexualizing her very young idols, they tried to trend 'HYBE works with pedophiles". Now she's a victim? No, she's their hero for trying to bring HYBE down. I kind of see this like that "old money vs new money " mentality. It's the "Big3", old money, versus HYBE new money. It's inferior. The Big 3 superiority mentality isn't something most foreign fans know about. And, I think maybe too many music fans in Korea haven't moved past it
Great Explanation. Thank you! This is what I love so much about your channel. You explain things so clearly, so those of us outside of Korea can understand. OMG my girlfriend and I just left our very good jobs because we worked with a woman just like the one you described working with. After so long it was not worth the stress of working with her. Hopefully she will also get her just desserts.
If you looked at all scandals throughout the years you would relaize they always side with the emotional side who plays selfpity the most. They always side with the person they see themselves in, how they dream to be, not the truth. This is why many "bullying scandals" are fake yet career ending (for women only) They always dream of getting back at that 1 situation, yet continue to be the person they resent. If I got anything from being familiar with the k-industry 1- Their opinions are useless inaccurate 2- never trust the media. They can make the best person the worst or hide facts to do the opposite 3- if someone uses selfpity to resonate with the public they are most likely lying and manipulative
MHJ is one smart lady and a master manipulator. She deserves an Oscar for her delivery at the press conference. At the end of the day, it is about money.
*Everyone check the comments section of Omg Mv by New Jeans.....*🥶💀 There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing. And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶 The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
Sometimes I wonder if, as humans, the frustration of a mediocre life leads us to side with people who deceive and betray successful people. It is not for nothing that envy is a capital sin and the mother of all vices.
My opinion what I saw - MHJ couldn't win even after payola so she got jealous, then offer to join hybe then decided to get upper floor than BTS but couldn't overshine, launch new group by using BTS name and payola again but got caught and lost it again, she knows she didn't play any role in BTS success but wants credits in that, so she said bang pd copied her and created BTS I mean how??? Exo has 9 members, all of their names are different all of their albums are different, everything is different, even anyone can say she copied older group and created exo, she tried best to win against BTS but couldn't, so went to shaman to do witchcraft, she couldn't outshine BTS again after they went to military so she thought let's take credits about other group success , and trying her best to drag BTS down bcs nobody is able to achieve what they have achieved and wants others to join this drama. I mean discussion to bring group and comparing them to old group and top group is common thing and it's ceo's and managers job. I mean even a if phone company wants to bring new phone into market they do comparison too. But she is trying to drag BTS to the bottom. Even after all drama trying her best to overshine RM album. So don't focus on her and focus on RM's album. I am not against investigation but why everytime only BTS. They got bullied for being from small company, then for stupid Korean beauty standard, foe putting makeup like before them none of the artist did makeup, then won award when they don't have money and called it sajegi, then for winning top social artist, and list goes on. Now again same shitty allegations. Numbers of army , those fanchants, sold out stadium and list goes on, are enough to tell their tough life journey and success stories. But why just BTS do investigation with every company specially big company why do they think everyone else is innocent. BTS achieved everything without having anything she use their name to make newjeans famous by payola. She is the one who needs punishment. She wants credits to every successful group but doesn't wants to be counted in failure. Everytime I hear her name my blood boils. When BTS were healing people she was going in depression
Whether you are in Canada, S.Korea, America, France, Germany, Switzerland, Alaska, Japan, Singapore, Puerto Rico, India, Africa~ Business is Business and Professionalism is the first rule of business. And part of professionalism is that your speech, your attire, your mannerisms reflect capability and ability to interact and further the interests of your business in a clear, concise, intelligent way. This woman spoke with a potty mouth, dressed as unprofessional as it gets and whined, cried and basically put on a tirade that business people around the world chuckle hand over mouth about no doubt. She has undone many forward hard won victories that worthy professional women spent decades winning. And that "mother" dragged young women and 2 minors into a mess that not only did she create in her lust for money and thievery, but may have destroyed NJ chance by doing so. Bad, toxic mom. And you don't have to be Korean to see it.😅
BRAVA! Say it LOUDER, so all the naive people who have never been/or know that they are the victims of a skilled and practiced narcissist can hear it! 👏👏👏🤩🤩🤩
@Yoon_Andy I would suspect that BTS aren't really interest the position of CEO of a label as it's too much paperwork less time to do what they really love making music and being on stage.
@jimin585 that's been my stance too and I don't like the way they're bringing them up is so annoying to me. They're not even active right now it's ridiculous. The way I see it... The bridges have been burnt down so bad with a slim chance of reconciliation.
Those boys at the time of training couldn’t even go out with friends for 2 years. Their blood sweat and tears built that company. Of course they care about everything that is going on with HYBE. They are very aware of professionalism in business at this point. Con artists have no place in business.
*Everyone check the comments section of Omg Mv by New Jeans.....*🥶💀 There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing. And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶 The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
Thank you for your analysis on this. It’s most insightful. I’m dumbfounded at how so many people are falling for her manipulation tactics. Are people really that naive and gullible? The way she got most of the public on her side is scary, and I can’t wait for her lies to be fully exposed in court.
This thinking in Korea seems to also show up in the bandwagon assassination mindset when it comes to jumping to conclusions and condemnation of celebrities. That pride comes up in their lack of remorse when it becomes clear that the accusations are false, they will demand apologies from them but offer none once that person is cleared. That's the part I hate. It's kinda like the first horse out the gate is the one they're riding even when its running straight towards a cliff.
International here: min lady reminds me of amber heard. HYBE should talk to Johnny Depp's attorneys re how to deal with a person with amber heard's types of personality disorders. Ben Chew and Camille Vasquez of the major international law firm, Brown Rudnick.
*Everyone check the comments section of Omg Mv by New Jeans.....*🥶💀 There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing. And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶 The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
@@HadassaMoon144 Please don't watch. These people quite literally believe comment section gossip to be more authentic than actual news, legal investigation, or even hard evidence! It is about some translation of the kakao talk messages presented by the MHJ in press con. Somehow days after press con they decided to translate it and now they believe that hybe is so dumb that they have threatened MHJ with OMG MV in WRITING in kakao talk. The moment I heard it, I was like, I would only believe it's credibility when it is in news and not in comment section gossip!
BangPd and the global music market have pointed to Latin America and Africa as the new emerging music markets with an inevitable decline in Kpop. Now with Kakao + Billboard partnership and Kakao + SM merger for a future ipo the timing of this is very sus. Especially since part of the incriminating evidence against MHj eludes to the same global funds invested in Kakao. It might have proven easier trying to poach a successful group with global potential while attempting to expand into the western market than starting from scratch when you don’t already have that advantage. Placing Hybe at a financial disadvantage at the same time would have been icing on the cake. Unfortunately this plan fails to factor in Armys unwavering loyalty to BTS and the ability to see through blatant bs😁
She never fooled me, I saw her through that aura of 'distressed poor working hard only focused on her girls' woman. She is an executive, a CEO!, and one of the best out there, fierce, workaholic, money and success driven professional (or so we though), otherwise BSH wouldn't have contracted her, obviously! She is not naive or innocent!
What does culture have to do with it? Business is business. CEOs don't dress like ragamuffins in front of the media no matter what country. A paycheck is a paycheck in any language or currency. Stock options are stock options. This is not Parasite. This woman has MILLIONS. She is NOT a victim. She is an expert manipulator which is what makes her good at her job. She can make you buy what she's selling.
This is utterly embarrassing. The way this woman has decided to time her sudden case of hysterics right around such crucial events for the company and has the nerve to air alleged dirty laundry to the public in ploy to gain sympathy from the people...that's a classic case of deflecting. I'm not wanting to argue with the Korean public and at the end of the day, I'm just another foreigner looking in...but foreigner or not, I think we can all agree her bratty means of putting anyone's name in her mouth while she's vying for any type of position is inexcusable. There is, and should be no room in a corporate setting where banging your fists against the floor, crying and lashing out and overall throwing a temper tantrum should be allowed. She says it's not about the money, then why has no one asked her why she's suddenly with HYBE and no longer with SM, or working at another company if she still wants to be within the realm of kpop?! Let's face it, all of them are doing the same damn thing, doling out the same kind of entertainment with pretty boys and girls dancing singing and taking photos. They'll work hard to garner a fanbase and become brand ambassadors before we can blink....so why the hell didn't she go to another company to do this? Why HYBE? To be fair, they're not entirely blameless and I know we're all here and mad at these people because we want to protect BTS and all the other artists who could get mixed up in all this. We don't have to divide ourselves near and far, but for now, we all need to go quiet and just watch. Watch what could happen when we stop feeding into this situation and see.
My take as someone with two visual degrees; she might picked the cap and sweater's colour very deliberately. Both are quite muted and cool colour, making people with her skin tone looks sicker and sadder. And it looks cheap, because of the pair being mismatched (no colour harmony) as well. So you saying that she "dressed like a hobo" is apt.
My people need to STOP sympathising for a billionaire who fucked over regular workers like us to get to her position. You don’t need to side with Hybe (and should not), but that doesn’t mean you should root for MHJ either. Let her taste her own medicine after years of treating her workers like crap. I could care less about two bullies fighting each other, regardless of who is more or less evil.
Agreed - I’ve said they are as bad as each and then I get called a Hybe lover 😂 yeah no… any innocent normal person would leave this to their legal team and hand over company property for the audit
I don’t get why we are accused of siding with Hybe for that. People need to remember that two things can happen simultaneously. I hate both. End of the story.
This. When i saw the forum talk of these entertainment companies employees talking about her press con... they're literally fed up with her bullshit. She's not a saint either so why talking highly as if shes the only one who worked for her group?? She didn't credit the staffs, the much more low paid workers than her, who does what she ask when she use their resources for her group. And here she is claiming how shes a slave, a billionaire slave.
Yes, I have a co worker who is a bully and. A manipulator. Management does not want to confront her.... because she is goid at sales. When my co-worker told me what happened the day after that happened. I went to my manager and asked him do you know that she is bullying her? I told thrm if they will not talk and do sothing with this person I will go to HR and tell them myself. I told them I will not be bystander doing nothing when I see someone being bullied. They gave her a warning. .. She is a con and manipulator... Hybe should put her away in prison so she will not do it again. Let hervpay for the damage she did to the company. Hybe is not perfect but what she did is BETRAYAL 3.0
It's almost like being sheltered or living in a sheltered environment. It's why people can be easily manipulated and believe everyone is kind or helpful.
I kept getting recommend your videos on this situation and I'm so glad I clicked. I love that you're bridging the gap between the Korean pov and international pov. You explain everything really well, and your personality is great on top of it! Every time you call her Ms.Min it makes me laugh 🤭. Looking forward to the video on the kkt messages she showed because not much has been translated... especially curious on the one talking about the OMG music video since it's been used in this insane cvlt allegation drama....
Why do Koreans think snakes are unique to them only? I come from a country where politicking means you meet the people where they are during the rally and then you drip at your pvt functions. That’s why I saw through her the instant I saw her hair. I was like she is going to cry and appeal to emotions. She did that in 3.5 seconds. It was all so predictable and so to see ppl fall for that was willful ignorance. They WANTED to believe her because sometimes it makes one’s life seem bearable. Especially when she called herself a slave. Even in the Western world, Steve Jobs dressed for the occasion.
I think everyone has worked with someone like this. Thank you for the context, this helps explain why so many people are going to bat for her, and the specific things people use to convey vulnerability/one of the people/I'm the victim are indeed often culture dependent so easy for outsiders to miss. I stand by my comment on the other video though - this may well work for her, but she's throwing other professional women under the bus in the process and making life harder for them in the long run. If anyone else has found themselves dealing with a coworkers who behaves this way and struggled to make sense of it, look up the Cluster B personality disorders and I can almost guarantee one of them will ring some bells in terms of the person you were dealing with.
MHJ's initial appearance was in April. It's August now, and her deliberately created drama was, largely laughed at by international fans. Have Korean fans finally seen the light? Or are they still blind?
Korean work space culture is toxic and many have said that it tends to be much harder for women employees and that is what MHJ used and victimized herself which made ppl sympathize with her cause they have put themselves in her shoes and got emotional. Hence they call her a hero for being against her higher ups forgetting the fact that she IS a CEO herself. Its the hybe employees people should feel bad about. 80% of the work behind an artist are done by them and she is only thinking about herself and her group.
Even before this when newsjeans was rising she was tring to stick to them in every interview and talk show and create a image that i am the onw who own newjeans. Newsjeans mom is a very cringy title
Min must be a marketing genius. She was able to get almost a whole country to buy her story. But I can’t think of any country where making that much money makes her a poor person being used and taken advantage of. I do believe in karma as I have seen it several times - what goes around comes around.
@@eileencritchley4630 If they manage to impose a substantial disciplinary sanction on her, they could effectively take back their shares for 2.2 million euros. The most enjoyable thing about this whole sad, hateful affair is that after the dismissal she will never find a job again. She can say goodbye to the two million euro salary and the 73 million euros that she managed to get from Bang PD and become a TH-camr, with all due respect to TH-camrs.
I feel like Hybe got flat footed in the PR game. I kept waiting for a war room point by point response to her outrageous framing and lies and it never really came or I missed it. Where was their press conference? If you can lie about being a Mother….i have no children and I would Never say that. Maybe I’m cynical but it was so obvious that she’s a greedy lying lying lying-face .
I think hybe didn't do a press conference because it'd be useless. the korean people are already on her side and they've even stated that no matter what she did they'll support her because she's going against a company and usually koreans have a resentment towards corporate companies due to their own personal bad experiences with their bosses. So they don't care at this point whether she's really wrong or not. They just think she's the less powerful one and that's why they should support her. So now no matter what hybe does or says they won't be on hybe's side. They did give a point by point response to her but it was a written long statement released as a press release. They didn't go on a livestream like her. I also think they are not coming out with a press conference(live) with new info because they need to save evidence to present it in court first. If they show it to public first, it's value in court will be diminished. Usually this is why in legal cases, the lawyers try not to say much details in public. It's helpful for the court in this way.
@@madkmadk6809 Thanks for that nuanced response. I guess my desire for fairness and justice meted out immediately got the best of me. I’m just a fan of BTS feeling protective. The wheels of the Gods grind slowly and all that…Hopefully.
@@SuzyCue I'm also an army trying to get our boys protected. It was a huge mistake on hybe's part to get this women as CEO while knowing her past misconduct and her jealousy towards BTS success. This is going to be a learning lesson to them on why not to forgive or hire people who have wanted BTS's downfall in the past
@@madkmadk6809 Agree 💯👍. Hey, thanks again for adding to my understanding. I appreciate you taking the time. Gawd, I get so tired of the gaslighting and manipulation….Hoping for the best though and a Cypher 5 😂. 💜
Not only in this case, I don't know why Korean society can't appreciate someone else achievement like they always find something negative about them or their past life, accused them as if they wanted to pull them back in their level again.
As I said before why on earth Bang PD gave her 18% of ADOR out of goodwill???this is purely business malpractice and on the top of that all the luxuries she is enjoying by just be a director artistic..how many in Korea got the same salary she got?? Bang PD was bankrupt when he started….all of this on the back of BTS hard cash??she needs to go.there is no debate about that
Another excellent video. Very good explanation of her clever strategy and insight into cultural prejudices. Speaking truth to power just like AH in Depp v Heard. Thank you!
I posted this comment in your earlier video about MHJ, and I think it is worth sharing here again: ___________________ Hey Sean, thanks for your video. I learned a couple of new things, but I'm still not entirely convinced by your overarching argument that MHJ is solely to blame. I'd like to touch on a few fallacies in your argument and then delve into some key points you seem to have overlooked. These omissions demonstrate that MHJ's situation is far more intricate than the narrative of "MHJ playing victim and not being grateful for the opportunities HYBE has given her." One common fallacy I've observed in your and other commenters' arguments is what I refer to as the performativity or sincerity fallacy. This misconception suggests that if someone appears theatrical, their argument can be disregarded outright. However, this notion is flawed for two main reasons: Firstly, individuals can display theatricality while still making valid points. Secondly, everyone, to some extent, engages in performance to shape public perception and narrative. For instance, just as MHJ demonstrates victimhood through emotional displays, HYBE tries to paint itself as the victim through corporate legal means. The second fallacy I've noticed is what I call the gratitude or privilege fallacy. This misconception operates under the assumption that if someone grants you an opportunity, particularly someone of higher rank, any subsequent conflict automatically places blame on you for not appreciating the privilege bestowed upon you. However, it's crucial to recognize that merely providing an opportunity, as HYBE did for MHJ in supporting her new girl group venture, doesn't absolve them of corporate, moral, or ethical responsibility when conflicts arise. Now, let's address the points overlooked in your account of MHJ v. HYBE. 1. The crux of the conflict in MHJ doesn't revolve around which girl group falls under MHJ's leadership, but rather concerns the utilization of her name and creative input. Often overlooked is HYBE's hiring of MHJ for her significant brand value, intending to leverage her name to enhance the credibility of a new girl group. Hence, your argument at 28:22 saying that MHJ would be working at McDonald’s without HYBE hiring her doesn’t make any sense. MHJ's name carries considerable influence, acknowledged by both parties. MHJ was specifically recruited to spearhead HYBE's first girl group bearing HER NAME. Initially promised full creative autonomy and minimal interference by BSH, she later found him reneging on all commitments. BSH sought to attach her name to Le Sserafim's debut, a group unrelated to her, and interfere with the composition of her own group, NewJeans. Considering these circumstances, it's understandable why MHJ felt aggrieved." 2. You rightly acknowledge MHJ's desire for her own label, as she openly admitted. However, you argue a contradiction arises when she claims her actions in ADOR do not constitute corporate misconduct. These are distinct points and don't inherently contradict one another. MHJ expressed her wish for a label where she could exert full creative control, but she also stated that during HYBE's recruitment process, they assured her of financial backing, freeing her from concerns about the business side while focusing on her girl group. In her perspective, HYBE's failure to uphold their promises led her to explore alternative options. However, much of her discussion regarding Project 1945 was speculative and impractical due to ADOR's 80%-20% profit-sharing system. Korean legal experts, not affiliated with MHJ's legal team, have addressed this in Korean newspapers, suggesting that it would be challenging for HYBE to prove any coup based on this evidence. 3. You seem to be skipping over the fact that this incident has at its core an incredibly successful product that MHJ has created, not HYBE. HYBE injected capital, but the creative direction and work all fell upon MHJ. So the big question here, which is also the reason why the Korean public is siding with MHJ, is whether HYBE has the moral and ethical authority to dismiss MHJ after making use of her effort to create a top girl group AND then plagiarize its concept for another group. The Korean public sympathizes with her because HYBE seems to treat her like a disposable resource: she has created something great, something that she is very attached to, and now she’s asked to walk away from what she created. Anybody in this situation would be angry as well. Ultimately, the verdict rests in the hands of the Korean courts to carefully evaluate the evidence. However, I hope that in your future videos, you'll offer ample room for considering both sides of the narrative before reaching a judgment on who is in the right or wrong!
Nah bro on the other hand you’re too MHJ sided. In business u gotta handle things professionally within the agreed corridors and legal framework, MHJ clearly had breached trust and just because she had created something great and valuable for the company, SHE IS NOT EXEMPT from legal boundaries. If you have a problem with the way things work you can clearly pursue aggressive legal discussion privately and avoid hearsays - even more avoid swirling the public opinions with emotional narratives that dont seem to anawer ANYTHING legally being talked about🤡🤡🤡 can we grow up
I want to thank you for this video bc all Koreans were attacking me on reddit 😂 i was going insane. my question is : why she behaved like this in the press conference just to win the general public opinion? to me the court opinion is more important but MHJ sacrificed that, bc the things she shared & the distorted truth can render heavy penalties from her contract. can you make an additional video explaining why MHJ strategy is to have the korean public on her side? it won't make any difference if the court has all the evidences of her illegal trade & plans to take over... what can the korean public do? bc the majority of international opinion is overwhelmingly against MHJ & want her out ASAP
Only Koreans can be fooled by her but we can see through this woman…the court has just decided the next court date anyway she will be dismissed..Koreans did not like BTS and HYBE to begin with we internationals were the ones to push through for BTS to be where they are today we will stand by HYBE
I have a similar experience of being the one labeled a bad guy accusing the "nice guy" in my case only to have a similar situation of a coworker calling me months later to let me know the "nice guy" got fired for everything I told them about him and I got let go for because no one else stood with me at the time so I was labeled as the evil b***h accusing people and causing turmoil. It's so frustrating sometimes when you can see right through someone obviously manipulating but it's like everyone else is under some spell not taking a couple seconds to think about whether the words and the actions match up.
Now i can understand why there's so many Kdramas like these. manipulations and power grabbing dramas taking place. Yes her performance in that press conference was strategic, well thought off. maybe her greatest performance ever. from the moment she stepped in that room..its all that..a performance. and it worked. from her clothes, to her tear streaked face (is it just me or does it seem like there's something below her eyes that makes her tear up), her plead not to take too many pictures etc..i still cant believe people fell for that.
So basically you're saying that Koreans are gullible & easily swayed by histrionics. Whereas international peeps are distrustful of histrionics allowing them to see a manipulator easily. Thankfully, Korean general public don't determine what is lawful behavior. Usually a judge or panel of judges do. I think it's despicable that a woman who hasn't been at Hybe that long & was in charge of only New Jeans can make more money than BTS who built that company. She didn't even produce, write lyrics, or create music. She simply created an image for branding purposes. Worse, she claims those styles were uniquely her creation & how dare any other group copy them --- when all along she simply ripped off the styles of western female hip hop artists of the 1990s & 2000s. What a joke!
Hello, I love your show. Did you watch the Kpop channel here on hosted by S Korean reporter/journalist Kim and he has just reported what happened in court in the most recent video just released. There are English captions. You should watch it. It appears that Hybe is winning round 1 in the courts. It was really interesting!
@@madkmadk6809 YT gets mad when we send links. They think it's spamming. It's the Kpop word and then "shock". It is from last night and use captions. The more recent live streamed vids haven't been translated yet.
⭐ Well, HYBE already just won their first battle against her in court (2nd, if you count the court's refusal on her first delay request) and got approval for the shareholder's meeting to be held, so unless something drastically flips the situation, it seems she will be fired imminently.
Everyone loves an ‘underdog’. She played to that. But we are not Korean, we read the transcripts, which turns the drama down from a 10 to a 2. What you read is ‘I, I, I, me, me, me’. Her messaging was all over the place. It made it a whole lot harder to trust her. What turned me off was her painting PD Bang as a monster. I’m not saying he’s an angel - no one who builds something as big as HYBE is. But, I’ve seen the pictures of PD Bang cooking Jin a meal and the letter he wrote the boys when they went on their first vacation (when RM lost his passport) and how he never takes credit for BTS achievements. But I’ve seen her take credit for NJ success.
This is how I feel about a certain political person in the US. How can anyone see this person as kind, caring one wit about anyone else or a victim? It's mind-boggling.
When she mentioned the fact that "it was not about the money" too many times, you know its exactly about the money.
Thou dost protest too much
This
*Everyone check the comments section of Omg Mv by New Jeans.....*🥶💀
There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing.
And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶
The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
LOL. Exactly
WHY...cause That is ALL HYBE is making it about..............
Thank you, finally, somebody said it. I don't understand why people suddenly forget who she is and what she does. She is a Creative Director who specializes in Brand Image. She's been doing it for decades and she is extremely good at it. If she can brand a group of teenagers as a representation of Y2K, then she can brand herself as a common worker who is abused by the company. In truth, she is the CEO of a rapidly growing label who got paid by the millions and has 18% shares of the company. She is richer than every artist under Hybe, including BTS members who built Hybe.
Do people think she randomly picks the clothes from her wardrobe and goes with it? No, from the regular clothes to her choices to go up there alone with no makeup and bawling her eyes out, it's all part of the image that she wants to convey. Make no mistake, Hybe is no saint either, but in this case, it's clear that the Kind CEO is the one who wants to manipulate the public's opinion. If she is not guilty, then let them do their audit, attend the shareholders meeting, and prove you're innocent there. We of the international community can smell rich and powerful people's BS from a mile away.
lol, she even looks like she has something under her eyes to cry easier😂
💯💯💯 Indeed, that's what I have always thought after the presscon. If she's truly innocent, why is she not acting to clear her name by returning Hybe's laptop and allow herself to be audited? If there's something wrong with the result of the audit, that's the time when she can call out Hybe for being unfair, etc. She's a CEO who's answerable to Hybe and its share holders.
She's not richer than BTS 😂
@@bqanto She is richer than each individual member but not the whole group.
@@CeciJosa So how much is her fortune? I understand that the "poorest" among BTS, Jin, has a fortune of 24 million dollars.
People just want any excuse to criticize a big company. All they asked was for her to turn in her computer and she refused. That's enough to suspect her. I don't understand the cultural nuances but I know damn well that she's up to no good
*Everyone check the comments section of Omg Mv by New Jeans.....*🥶💀
There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing.
And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶
The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
We don’t want to check the video now run off to find gullible people who would
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Turn over your laptop or computer and we will not have this discussion. She is trying to land a role in the
K drama great manipulator. Korean public wake up and see the truth and reality.
As a woman I was offended! She played on every single feminine stereotype type that we try to avoid. She commented on the common man whilst earning millions of dollars. And her over emotional connections to the girls was too much. The worst thing for me is how blinded the Korean population is. If they heard what she said and was like I “but…” they have not questioned anything. Mind blown!🤯
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There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing.
And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶
The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
i am korean and sadly i have to admit that koreans are easily to be manipulated by emotion. we often judge based on compassion and feelings than dry facts. remember depp and his wife case in the usa. people in usa didn't fall for the emotion tactics.
And one of your fellow countrymen commented on my comment and she's insisting that MHJ is really innocent and being bullied by Bang PD regarding in this matter.
She even lied that she's working, but upon checking her TH-cam channel? She's a student.
This woman really did a good job in fabricating her narrative.
That's not a good example because in her case Depp was actually very abusive too and he got away with it in the media
@@via45 What matters is that Johnny Depp did not do what she publicly accused him of, taking care not to report it to the police. So she defamed him, and that's a fact.
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There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing.
And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶
The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
As an international person, I saw through her attitude instantly. Dressed sloppily to look like a victim? Lifting her cap up every time she shed tears so that everyone could see? Overconfidence and unwilling to take advice from her lawyers despite apparently being a very soft and easily manipulated person? Laughable.
Guaranteed she told her lawyers to try to stop her so that she could pretend she just has to tell the truth at any cost. The way the lawyers acted trying to reign her in was even more performative than she was.
Totally! Her sincerity didn't jump out of the screen, most especially telling is when she FAILED to address the real issue: why is Ador being audited? why she didn't return her laptop (owned by Hybe)? did she expose internal confidential information about the company to foreign investors (without the knowledge of Hybe) and confidential employee information?
The things she said in the presscon are not topics that you can bring down Hybe for. But it did tell how dissatisfied she is that she cannot have full control of ADOR--which is why she wanted to get out of Hybe. Keeping in mind that she even admit (or slipped) that she tried to think of a way to leave taking NJ with her. *lol* ... She's that transparent!
Tell em buddy tell em
Exactly same here!
100%!!!!
Min Hee-Jin is a narcissist, and she is on her way to one-upping Amber Heard in the crazy dept. I find it ridiculously hard to believe anything she has to say.
I don't know all about the Korean culture, but I am firmly rooted in American culture, business, branding, etc. and trust we have the same craziness here as well. I don't have to be Korean to understand what Min Hee-Jin was trying to pull and it has nothing to do with being so in love w/New Jeans.
Her press conference was completely unprofessional, big on hysterics and noticeably short on substance & facts. With all the moaning she was really going for the Oscar, but she couldn't even manage a tear.
Min Hee-Jin is Du Lu Lu if she really believes she created something new for New Jeans. It's ok to rip off past concepts, but then don't have the nerve to say someone else is coping you.
I agree this is all about money and her desire to takeover Ador. Min Hee-Jin doesn't strike me as someone who plays well with others. You always have to watch your back.
HYBE isn't perfect, but I believe they're one of the better organizations, foreign or abroad. All this fake news about cults and payola is really hurting their image.
This is weird thinking. It does not help HYBE AT ALL if Min Hee-Jin fails. And you don't have to like each other to work together. I do not believe HYBE isn't/hasn't supported her or been more than fair. If she would have gotten the ridiculous share price she was asking, there wouldn't be an issue.
I hate the way she's made this such a public matter. I truly dislike the way she's dragged other groups into her mess, and I hate the way she's smearing HYBE without any facts, but a whole lot of her just being extra.
I really hope HYBE can prove their case in court, because they need to protect what they've built. OMG where is BTS when you need them.
Sorry for the rant 😊.
Thanks for covering this matter. It's been informative and great!
I'm sorry idk the details of the amber heard case as I'm not American and didn't keep up with it, all i know is that public initially believed her but later her lies got out, so I'm asking you, what was her outcome after the court? Did she go to jail? Also, does she have aquaintance people/friends working in the media who still support her?
@@madkmadk6809 she was asked to pay a huge sum of money as compensation to Johnny Depp for false accussation. She said she didn't had that money . That all i know
@@btsnu wait but i thought she was a rich lady because she hired lawyers and stuff. How can she not have money. Also didn't she abused johnny too? Why's she not in jail
@@madkmadk6809 yeah but apparently she is some debt or something n unable to gave that much money. ( I don't know about the latest news . Maybe she has given it now). And yes she did abused Johnny . She beat him and injured his finger.
@@btsnu if she did domestic abuse then she deserves jail time. Atleast 5 years she should be locked up.
Koreans are emotional and proud of it. As soon as Min cried and was hysterical, people turned on sympathy mode and turned off logic. Koreans told me that number one crime in Korea is swindlement. Believe them. They are kind people, but too kind (sometimes). I like your analysis :) CU next . . . Was funny
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The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
Kmedia & Knets are not necessarily kind ppl though....the unjustified hate campaigns against BTS are ridiculous
Kind? They tell their artists to k*ll themselves at any silly mistake and insist on it untill the artists do it. Kind? I don't think so.
@@mitsuki0_0- Theres no clarity to ILLEGAL activity and that includes leaking trainee documents get a fucking grip of so sick of y'all this excuse & this fucking cult
Kind people..?💀 the ones who demand their idols to be fired over having a love life?? The ones who drag drug users trough the mud and even wish death upon them but then turn around a support their favorite r@pis celebrity?
As someone from the UK I was really surprised to see people believing this performance. The victim dressing, fake tears, rambling on and on. It was very clear to see it was an act for sympathy. I personally do not think the tears were because she was upset but more because she had been caught out !
She didn’t fool me either. Why would Bang PD destroy his reputation for 13yrs. existing hard work, all the staff and all the artists hard work. She came to the company and said that Bang Pd didn’t treat her well, seriously is she in puberty or menopause. Be real, is this a copy of a KDrama, too. Yap, She’s just greedy 😏.
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The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
@@mitsuki0_0- International fans are not interested in your so called drama n obsession with cult. So leave from here.
She's a PR woman She knows how to win the Korean public based on appearances, thats how Koreans judge people, well thats how International see it. International people aren't that fooled by appearances. I see it very manipulative.
I'd love to see Min Hyejin have a lie detector test.
Amen to the lie detector test. A body language analysis by an expert wouldn't hurt either.
Some ppl with psych issues can hv no conscience & pass a lie detector test. Hope Hybe gets all its proof. Meantime, the shares went down smch & there are investment houses w/ deep pockets that cn short d company enough for a hostile takeover.
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The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
The lie detector machine would just walk out in disgust
If I recognize something about hybe, it is that at no time did they mention the girls' names, they only mentioned hers...on the other hand, this woman keeps mentioning the girls every 5 minutes...people say it is a very emotional conference but Just by seeing the reaction of her lawyers one concludes many things...laughter...embarrassment...it seems that they didn't know where to put their heads...how many times did she not let her lawyers speak?? Those giant screenshots, which no one knows if they are real or not since they are very easy to fake, give the impression of a toxic ex-girlfriend, not a CEO.What screenshots have to do with what you are accused of? Nothing, it's just to generate pity and gain public approval, and she won
In my opinion those screenshots were a threat. There's probably a lot in her cell phone that Bang PD wouldn't want made public.
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The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
@Ggggg1gggg Exactly , as fans we know that the companies are not ángel but this is a bussines, idols are friends , the companies just have a polite relationshipp everything is a competition , people actually thinks that all the music industry is all Pink and rainbow??? Pfff I am surprised that she have corean people with her☠
@Ggggg1gggg if the screenshots aren't proof , Where's the proof from hybe's side of all the accusation against min hee jin?
@Ggggg1gggg tf articles are proof 😂? Where's the proper evidence to that claims ? 💀like some sort official documented evidence, some sort of photo , videos or texts ss ?
Yeah I keep getting ppl saying I know nothing and Hybes audit is shady blah blah blah and I was thinking - these ppl obviously have never worked in a corporate environment before …
Exactly!!! I was thinking the same thing. There’s a lot of folks that seem to not understand the corporate environment. It has nothing to do with different cultures. Business is business and how can an employee refuse to hand over company assets 😂
@@westieseoul I think the issue is that in SK there aren’t actually a lot a people who have been exposed to business practices in legal and HR terms that is pretty standard for MOST countries and businesses - they haven’t signed employee contracts which are pages long and include social media conduct, clauses and brand image clauses. I work in a high position now but even back in the day starting work for a billion dollar entertainment company(cinema) as a 16 yr old, my contract was pretty extensive as to what is proper business company conduct incl social media clauses etc. - I literally manned the candy bar and cleaned cinemas then. 😂
Some of them are students or should I say GEN Z's that are so petty and entitled.
It is called a "CON". What to wear, when to cry, obvious from the get go.... a con artist. Don't be gullible to the sham.
You are dead right. A CON pure and simple. And not a very sophisticated one at that. Did she have green stuff on her face?
Absolutely 💯
As Korean myself living abroad, I often frustrated how K public are so quick to judge, and quick to blame and attack someone over trivial things, without seeing the whole picture,, and how different mindset they have.
MHJ knows exactly what she is doing, she has been planning, and calculating for a while.
She knows how K public will empathize her, how easily be swayed by her emotions, be vulnerable to tears, and she knows how to distract and play public. Of course, some antis, and jealous haters might support her no matter what the truth is.
Let me be clear, she is not a victim, not an underdog, not a whistle-blower, not an employee who bullied by big company.
> I often frustrated how K public are so quick to judge, and quick to blame and attack someone over trivial things, without seeing the whole picture,, and how different mindset they have.
This sounds scary if some of them are making important and serious decisions, such as those work in the govt and key positions.
Are there any Korean journalists doing their job of thinking critically, informing the public, and investigating news?
17:21 that's what is baffling, is that there are actually SM and Hybe employees that say how tyranical MHJ is, so it's not as if she played this kind person in the workspace. She only puts on this victim face now
Truth is true, and lies are lies. Lee Sun Kyun died as a result of Korean netizens believing lies. Did the citizens learn nothing?
Word ❤
Agree with you. Like when BTS on their early years with BigHit, internationally people loves BTS but not the Korean people until BTS makes it big by winning on billboard anf etc ... they believed all the accusations made by the haters ...
yes ..i feel the same as you
@@Kristal01 saranghae ...
They still don't support them, even though the boys are loyal and patriotic. I don't understand their logic.
@@lathavaratharajan5071 yes I feel that too even they bring more money in their country, bts they global superstars but some koreans not known bts but as a asian I'm super proud of them
another reason not to trust the judgement of Koreans
It´s not about if she is lying! That is not the thing! It is that pure fact that she goes public to wash all dirty laundry! THAT is not a proffesional way to behave in a company/corporate! She should have fufilled HYBES request for her laptop...but she did this instead...probably bc she knows that ppl are so easily manipulsted! The things she brought up is just emotional stuff....you don drive a business like that!
I think she's confident enough that she can manipulate people because she's a branding person... just like what he said here. she knows how to play with the SK people's mind.
I respectfully disagree if the "dirty laundry" are made-up for the purpose of manipulating the public opinion and damaging HYBE for her benefit. But HYBE doesn't play around. Let it play out in court. Since there's nothing I can contribute to my preferred outcome, I focus on RM's upcoming album, Jin's discharge date (D-41 or six more Fridays! 🥰), then Hobi's, and after that the one-year anniversary dates of RM and the maknae line. That's my breakdown for the remainder of 2024. I hope the members of New Jeans and their families get the support they need from HYBE.
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@@НадеждаСтрюк-н7цУзнайте разницу между словами аудит компании и стирка грязного белья.
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Min Hee-jin is good at what she does. She is one of the best brand/pr women in the business. She knows the culture of her people best and with that she was able to easily pull off this con. The clothes, the crocodile tears, I'm one of you, it's not about the money, the cursing, stop taking pictures of me. It was all designed to win sympathy and overlook the real issue. It worked.
As for the difference of opinion between international fans and the Korean public I'm not surprised. I can't speak on how wealthy people, politicians or other people of power normally present themselves to the Korean public when they caught up in their own nonsense, but I can say that many international fans have seen this type of clown show many times and can spot someone trying to manipulate and play games. I can safely say that if she came out and put on that performance in the states it would have been game over. Absolutely nobody would believe the words "I'm just like you" from a multi-millionaire with power and the ability to live in a bubble that shields her from the life that most average citizens live. Also, when you can't give a plausible answer as to why you didn't hand in your laptop, it's a wrap. You will not be winning over the public.
As an International fan we may not understand fully Korean culture, it does not mean we can see a press conference and see how unprofessional the person is. They way she under dressed, no make up and the swearing and tears does not inspire us to believe her. We see a manipulator and then we have to wonder if anything she is saying is true. Also as mothers many of us do not understand when she basically kept bringing New Jeans into the conversation. A natural instinct of a mother is to protect their children and not use them to benefit themselves. I understand the Korean point of view and some International fans that they have fallen for her act because Koreans have a reputation for siding with the underdog when it comes to corporates and also they have a very strong cancel culture prior to the evidence being out. Of course New Jeans fans are also siding with her because they are worried what will happen to New Jeans just as BTS fans are majority are supporting Hybe in case it effects BTS. I think because of the ridiculous rumours and horrible accusations that have since come around they have not helped her case as she is actually doing what she had planned to do!
Thanks for being polite and careful about Korean culture , etc but there was nothing she displayed that related to Korean culture at all. She’s just simply a nightmare and I am so embarrassed as a woman, too. And people who fell for her are NOT because of Korean culture tendency. To me, those are either very weak, ignorant people or the enemies who are trying to take HYBE/Bang Pd down. A lot of other Koreans find them very weird and non sensical, hard to believe and almost pathetic.
And I think it is universal thing to spot a deceitful, selfish, ungrateful, highly unreasonable, extremely greedy and flat out rude person like her. If some Koreans don’t see that in her, they better wake up and smell the coffee. It will be only damning if they follow that way.
She’s unforgivable and should be responsible for such damage she has created for the whole kpop industry, young artists, BTS, Bang Pd and HYBE, so much money lost, etc.
And I am sure more people will come to senses when the truths get to be unveiled one by one, soon. But difficult part at the moment is there are enemies, paid puppets by her side, or future investors who want to take over HYBE and people w jealousy , all these are mixed together in this mess, so it is getting harder n harder to clear things up. Just messier n messier day by day…
But this too shall pass, right? We just have to try to stand by the truths and disregard the garbages.
She is playing the underdog card with a vengeance. But in court it’s not a popularity contest, it’s a matter of facts and evidence.
She knows what Korean people weaknesses are.. what and how to play the part. Korean people will eventually realize that they were fooled by her victim role. Exactly ,,,, her job is branding so she knows what will resonate to the local audience. International audience has a wider and more complex perspective of the world because we are looking into rather than being in the picture. Master of manipulation. It is all about MONEY...GREAT explanation. Thank you for this video..
.. she is scared of Hybe...believe it or not. Korean public muwt wake up.
little by little her drama came out,she used HYBE money to build her label,then later on she wants to leave and want take all the money,it’s all about money,but HYBE rejected it.
And she apparently demanded the right to end NJ's contracts with HYBE, in order to sever them from the company and establish them as her own personal group. It's reported that HYBE refused and the ADOR board of directors will continue to be the ones with the exclusive rights over the girls' contracts.
Taking the group was supposed to be Plan B in the event of her coup failure, so she seems to know she's in for it despite the public sympathy. And I suspect the investigation into her 'foreign funding' sources will scorch that sympathy pretty solidly. Signs are pointing to Kakao, the Chinese giant, and Korean folks will *not* like that.
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It’s interesting too see that her side of her story changes every time hybe releases more information… even more chocking to see there’s still people supporting her even tho she’s changing her story daily 💀
*shocking
@@madkmadk6809 sorry, I’m not native English speaker, some words are too similar😭
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The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
@@intshadow it's ok. I'm not native English speaker either. I just saw a typo and thought maybe you didn't notice 😅
@@mitsuki0_0- girl… is not time for the Illuminati conspiracys, here’s not facebook
From the very beginning I was skeptical about her, but her conference outfit made me believe 100% she was bullsh!tting. And people are like "she is promoting till the very end, lol 😂". Nobody else finds creepy that she is dressing like her very young, some minor, protégées??????
I absolutely 💯 see through her BS.
And the outfit was designer labels.
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The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
I don't really like corporations, but I hate deception and hypocrite more, especially at the cost of innocent artists.
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The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
i still dont understand. there are people that have only 20% of the company. eventually they can get 0 dollar. please make sure hybe dont pay her a single cent
Unfortunately to me after analyzing the financial and legal situation, it seems like she is in a situation where no matter what happens at court, regardless of if hybe wins or not, she will still walk away with miilions of dollars. She strategized this since years before. Carefully planted somethings ahead of time to make it look like the company is the wrong one. She has solidified the public support too. 😢
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@@fortress-r7y i dont really care. i just want dont want money to be given freely like that.
@@fortress-r7y Why? Explain.
He is a business man. He doesn't work for hybe
Coming out the way she looked at the press conference was the whole idea to get sympathy....the poor little rich girl. Either she dressed that way or her masters told her how to appear. Really, Koreans don't realise how much Bang PD and BTS did for Korea bringing their country to the fore. Wake up and don't let her bring Korea down after all the hard work the companies and artists put Korea on the map
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I really laughed at MHJ part of a statement at the presscon where she said that she's just trying to protect NJ "cultural achievements" lol.... well, it WAS BTS and BPD who made the cultural achievement. NJ never achieved a BTS effect even though they are a successful gg.
@@Doby-xc1le Why? You seem to have an agenda also. My guess is you're one of the people involved in the protests against Hybe.
Most of the common middle income korean are connecting to her saying that they too have faced submission from their bosses. Well they dont understand the difference between her and a normal wage korean . She is a rich woman , powerful and been in the industry for decades . Wish atleast some koreans realise her tactics
But by the end of the day, what can be proven at the court is what really matters !!
Hybe is buying the most expensive lawyer in Korea and can also easily manipulate the court judgment. I DON'T TRUST HYBE AND BANG SI-HYUK
@@Teresahkp So, do you trust Min HeeJin? You know, HYBE has more than one sub-label they have to take care of, so of course they need good legal help. If they are truthful then they don't need to buy and manipulate the court.
You don't need to trust either but the facts and truth need to be shown. And maybe more lies will be forced out and we'll see the whole truth eventually.
@@Teresahkp and Min Hee Jin too... I'm never going to trust a woman who literally obsessed with "young girl"
Hybe has always been transparent company.
They have always been honest
That woul be nice. But if you look at the Johnny Depp / Amber Heard trial, she showed her true colors, the court stated clearly they believe him, not her and STILL she is all over the news as the poor victim.
The court of public opinion matters very much too, especially in Korea. What she does will have consequences, already has, no matter what the court will decide.
Stop the drama and just turn over the laptop (which doesn’t belong to her) and answer the charges with facts. A thief and a liar is the same universally in any culture. We all dream about sticking one to the man but it doesn’t give us a pass to commit a crime against the man. Sorry that way of thinking is juvenile, both parties will have their day in court.
Yep, she can be classified as a thief for not returning the lap top which is Hybe property. One could bring a criminal case just on the laptop not being returned, it’s usually enough to fire someone if they keep company property as well.
I esteem Bang Si Hyuk a lot.
Nope. Nah. She don’t fool me!!!!! She’s ALLLL bout the money and being manipulative!!! Thanks SL!!!!
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@@fortress-r7y you are a commenter employeed by Min hj? I saw your name every channel and talking the same BS.
@@fortress-r7yAnd you are blind fan of MHJ. Just coz you cannot see the her real face doesn't everyone is wearing blind folds like you
I actually think that foreigners are likely to be more objective in this situation because we are not emotionally tied to any of those cultural nuances that most Koreans wouldn’t be able to separate themselves from and Koreans are going to have prejudice subconsciously because of that (even if they don’t admit it) whereas we are actually able to view the situation based on the facts available without it being dressed up with ‘fluff’.
I think that's fairly accurate. She's very obviously trying to play on peoples' emotions, and that makes it quite difficult to be objective about the matter. ARMY is protective of BTS and thoroughly disapproves from that side of things, but a lot of ARMYs are just not invested emotionally in HYBE. So they are able to recognize standard corporate behavior and standard legal tactics. It would be different if it was Big Hit that was under fire; ARMYs are a lot more attached to the originating company than to the umbrella company.
And then a lot of us Westerners have been coping with malignant narcissists for quite some time now, and have become very good at recognizing those behaviors.
I am from US. I don't give a fuck about either the CEOs. I find the way this is being handled to be an embarrassment on the behalf of the legal professional in Korea.. I like both NewJeans and BTS. I would side with MHJ but neither party is 100% innocent.
Exactly. Min Heejin is expertly playing on Koreans' weakest points, which doesn't work as well on non-Koreans so they see through it.
@@Doby-xc1le You keep showing up pretending to be disinterested, but in reality you are against Hybe. Everything you say is suspect.
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The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
Bless you for covering this madness. I didn't see her appearance, and behavior that way. I kept thinking, if you're telling the truth, and you were confident in that, wouldn't you come out looking business-like, and determined, stating REASONS why the accusations aren't true. I'm not talking about flashy-millionaire-business dress, but even jeans, a blazer, over a tshirt, and your hair tied back neatly, would have made more sense to me. I keep thinking about what G-Dragon went through.
7 days a week, for sure, Sean!😂 I love it, since it seems like people keep trying to drag our Boys into this mess! Not Today, Haters!😉💜
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This is getting annoying mistuki stop spamming every comment
@@lovelyseo.18 sorry i just tried to spread this message so that the people who loves k-pop and out of Korea could know about the things that are now going in Korea.
I didn't mean to spread negativity anyhow.
Koreans are failing to communicate with international fans. I just tried my best to let you all know. Now it's your choice to ignore or look at the matter.
If you don't like you can skip it.
(Allegedly) NPD is universal. No need for understanding any different cultures.
Plus I've been into kpop and Korea for 19 years now. And yes: She clearly IS covering up for things. (Allegedly)
Will HYBE come out and do a major bomb drop on her, that shows she's the biggest liar ever? Even though I'm America I lived in Korea for years and seen the cultural differences. It's true Korean seems to buy the person that comes out first. But when the other side speak it makes those believer turn on the one that came out first. I look forward to the day HYBE drop the bomb shell on her lies. I hope HYBE goes step by step on each allegation to show just how money hungry she really is. ADOR will fail and HYBE is just moving to protect the label before they come out. NEW JEANS will feel the effects of her lies soon. Sorry for NEW JEANS I will not buy any of there music until they leave Min
Good grief, Ador won't fail, it was founded by Bang PD 😂
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In last 3 years (since 2021) of being BTS ARMY and diving into Korean Culture, one thing become clear to me that Korean Culture is all about pretendence and show-off...
This is my understanding...
17:50 i bet she orchestrated bts smear campaign, as well as the meesages about "kind producer". A lot of accounts that spread defamation and false rumors are newly created acca in april, this tells everything ypu need to know
Finally someone said this, this woman is playing the victim role, it's driving me crazy to see people defending her!!
Min heejin is demanding the cancelation of newjeans contracts. So she can take them with her to start a new label. Hybe said no.
And they should say no! We were all here when HYBE evolved from BigHit and debuted their first girl group, which was NewJeans (please correct me if I'm worng). Where the heck was she then?!
@@MrTobi013 LE SSERAFIM debut about 2 months before them
That's not what MHJ asked for, exactly. She asked to eliminate the penalty clause from the NJ contract, which provides for the payment of a penalty if the girls terminate the contract before the deadline expires. But Hybe said no.
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There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing.
And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶
The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
She wanted the power to fire newjeans to then sell her stocks and once she fired Newjeans and Ador crashes she would buy the brand for a coupe millions after stealing 200 MIllion from stocks she bought with Bang Pd's money.
Crazy how she has so much support, can't wait to see how it plays out
How many times did I see the Knetizens were bad at judging people? From Kim Ji Soo's (the actor) bullying allegations to AOA Jimin vs Mina incident. They were all wrong. They all jumped into the "victim's" side with no regard to logic and facts. Then months later, the accused was proven innocent but it's too late, they already ruined their careers. I guess Koreans are too emotional people, I don't blame them but it shouldn't be an excuse to completely turn off their critical thinking. Their controversies involved life and careers that some of these celebrities commit the unthinkable because the public scrutiny was too mucb to bear for them.
Her presscon can be used in the classroom as the perfect example of how to execute "Noam Chomsky 's 10 strategies of manipulation by the media" successfully.
And in addition, unlike Korean netizens, international fans, know her past issues and controversies (her being pedophilic-ish) , never took any accountability to any of those instead gaslit fans to know that she's not innocent here. Regardless of whether she wants ADOR or not out of HYBE, NJ is still not safe being w her.
I have listened to at least, at minimum, 10 korean international kpop fans, korean/american lawyers and korean/american business professionals, all podcasters or youtubers, who speak fluent korean, who didn't need translation-- and everyone that I've watched sees this the same as nearly all foreign fans.
It's not a translation thing, no "foreigner" who did even a tiny bit of research lost what happened to translation.
Online, I see very childish arguments, based almost entirely on truly incredulous theories of business supporting MHJ. Immediately knew these people were forcing themselves not to see common sense because they were blinded by emotions, or maybe too ignorant to comprehend business.
But i think the emotion is not pity towards MHJ, it's hate to HYBE.
I think if this story broke with SM, YG, and JYP it wouldn't headline for more than an hour, not days. Everyone, even korean stans, would see it as it is-- a greedy narcissists failed grab for power. Nobody internationally would have even heard of it. End of story, expect HYBE is the great "evil".
The irony, the first time I ever heard of MHJ was when kstans, not armies, were shaming HYBE for bringing her in because of her over sexualizing her very young idols, they tried to trend 'HYBE works with pedophiles". Now she's a victim? No, she's their hero for trying to bring HYBE down.
I kind of see this like that "old money vs new money " mentality. It's the "Big3", old money, versus HYBE new money. It's inferior.
The Big 3 superiority mentality isn't something most foreign fans know about. And, I think maybe too many music fans in Korea haven't moved past it
This. Istg this is also how I see things. Thank you so much for pointing it out!
Great Explanation. Thank you! This is what I love so much about your channel. You explain things so clearly, so those of us outside of Korea can understand. OMG my girlfriend and I just left our very good jobs because we worked with a woman just like the one you described working with. After so long it was not worth the stress of working with her. Hopefully she will also get her just desserts.
If you looked at all scandals throughout the years you would relaize they always side with the emotional side who plays selfpity the most. They always side with the person they see themselves in, how they dream to be, not the truth.
This is why many "bullying scandals" are fake yet career ending (for women only) They always dream of getting back at that 1 situation, yet continue to be the person they resent.
If I got anything from being familiar with the k-industry
1- Their opinions are useless inaccurate
2- never trust the media. They can make the best person the worst or hide facts to do the opposite
3- if someone uses selfpity to resonate with the public they are most likely lying and manipulative
Truth. I had the same experience with toxic narcissist and I had to leave just like you and can recognize the patterns.
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MHJ is one smart lady and a master manipulator. She deserves an Oscar for her delivery at the press conference. At the end of the day, it is about money.
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There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing.
And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶
The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
Sometimes I wonder if, as humans, the frustration of a mediocre life leads us to side with people who deceive and betray successful people. It is not for nothing that envy is a capital sin and the mother of all vices.
And, yes, she is a snake.
My opinion what I saw - MHJ couldn't win even after payola so she got jealous, then offer to join hybe then decided to get upper floor than BTS but couldn't overshine, launch new group by using BTS name and payola again but got caught and lost it again, she knows she didn't play any role in BTS success but wants credits in that, so she said bang pd copied her and created BTS I mean how??? Exo has 9 members, all of their names are different all of their albums are different, everything is different, even anyone can say she copied older group and created exo, she tried best to win against BTS but couldn't, so went to shaman to do witchcraft, she couldn't outshine BTS again after they went to military so she thought let's take credits about other group success , and trying her best to drag BTS down bcs nobody is able to achieve what they have achieved and wants others to join this drama. I mean discussion to bring group and comparing them to old group and top group is common thing and it's ceo's and managers job. I mean even a if phone company wants to bring new phone into market they do comparison too. But she is trying to drag BTS to the bottom. Even after all drama trying her best to overshine RM album. So don't focus on her and focus on RM's album. I am not against investigation but why everytime only BTS. They got bullied for being from small company, then for stupid Korean beauty standard, foe putting makeup like before them none of the artist did makeup, then won award when they don't have money and called it sajegi, then for winning top social artist, and list goes on. Now again same shitty allegations. Numbers of army , those fanchants, sold out stadium and list goes on, are enough to tell their tough life journey and success stories. But why just BTS do investigation with every company specially big company why do they think everyone else is innocent. BTS achieved everything without having anything she use their name to make newjeans famous by payola. She is the one who needs punishment. She wants credits to every successful group but doesn't wants to be counted in failure. Everytime I hear her name my blood boils. When BTS were healing people she was going in depression
Whether you are in Canada, S.Korea, America, France, Germany, Switzerland, Alaska, Japan, Singapore, Puerto Rico, India, Africa~ Business is Business and Professionalism is the first rule of business. And part of professionalism is that your speech, your attire, your mannerisms reflect capability and ability to interact and further the interests of your business in a clear, concise, intelligent way.
This woman spoke with a potty mouth, dressed as unprofessional as it gets and whined, cried and basically put on a tirade that business people around the world chuckle hand over mouth about no doubt. She has undone many forward hard won victories that worthy professional women spent decades winning. And that "mother" dragged young women and 2 minors into a mess that not only did she create in her lust for money and thievery, but may have destroyed NJ chance by doing so. Bad, toxic mom.
And you don't have to be Korean to see it.😅
BRAVA! Say it LOUDER, so all the naive people who have never been/or know that they are the victims of a skilled and practiced narcissist can hear it! 👏👏👏🤩🤩🤩
Are the Korean people liken to our Maga's Trumpsters in America.
I don't care about all these drama...just make sure all the things BTS built will not be affected...
@Yoon_Andy I would suspect that BTS aren't really interest the position of CEO of a label as it's too much paperwork less time to do what they really love making music and being on stage.
@jimin585 that's been my stance too and I don't like the way they're bringing them up is so annoying to me. They're not even active right now it's ridiculous. The way I see it... The bridges have been burnt down so bad with a slim chance of reconciliation.
Those boys at the time of training couldn’t even go out with friends for 2 years. Their blood sweat and tears built that company. Of course they care about everything that is going on with HYBE. They are very aware of professionalism in business at this point. Con artists have no place in business.
When I saw her dressed like that, crying as she speaks...she couldn't fool me. She was a Amber Heard...
True 😂 all I heard was my dog step on a bee.. bangpd cheated mee...
Exactly!
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There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing.
And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶
The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
@@mitsuki0_0- International fans are not interested in your so called drama n obsession with cult. So leave from here.
Thank you for your analysis on this. It’s most insightful. I’m dumbfounded at how so many people are falling for her manipulation tactics. Are people really that naive and gullible? The way she got most of the public on her side is scary, and I can’t wait for her lies to be fully exposed in court.
This thinking in Korea seems to also show up in the bandwagon assassination mindset when it comes to jumping to conclusions and condemnation of celebrities. That pride comes up in their lack of remorse when it becomes clear that the accusations are false, they will demand apologies from them but offer none once that person is cleared. That's the part I hate. It's kinda like the first horse out the gate is the one they're riding even when its running straight towards a cliff.
I can't believe they tried to portray her as working class fighting against the powerful.
If she is working class, then their 70% citizens are below poverty
International here: min lady reminds me of amber heard. HYBE should talk to Johnny Depp's attorneys re how to deal with a person with amber heard's types of personality disorders. Ben Chew and Camille Vasquez of the major international law firm, Brown Rudnick.
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There's a lot more dark sh** is going on that the international media is not showing.
And it also gives much more clarity on min hee Jin's action🥶🥶🥶
The hybe's drama is much more darker than we think off. ..
If it's about this "cult" activity... No
@@HadassaMoon144 Please don't watch. These people quite literally believe comment section gossip to be more authentic than actual news, legal investigation, or even hard evidence!
It is about some translation of the kakao talk messages presented by the MHJ in press con. Somehow days after press con they decided to translate it and now they believe that hybe is so dumb that they have threatened MHJ with OMG MV in WRITING in kakao talk. The moment I heard it, I was like, I would only believe it's credibility when it is in news and not in comment section gossip!
BangPd and the global music market have pointed to Latin America and Africa as the new emerging music markets with an inevitable decline in Kpop. Now with Kakao + Billboard partnership and Kakao + SM merger for a future ipo the timing of this is very sus. Especially since part of the incriminating evidence against MHj eludes to the same global funds invested in Kakao. It might have proven easier trying to poach a successful group with global potential while attempting to expand into the western market than starting from scratch when you don’t already have that advantage. Placing Hybe at a financial disadvantage at the same time would have been icing on the cake. Unfortunately this plan fails to factor in Armys unwavering loyalty to BTS and the ability to see through blatant bs😁
I can’t believe they can’t see through her evilness and crocodile tears!?? 🤦♀️
I was shocked when they couldn’t see past the emotional manipulation when it’s so blatantly obvious.
She never fooled me, I saw her through that aura of 'distressed poor working hard only focused on her girls' woman. She is an executive, a CEO!, and one of the best out there, fierce, workaholic, money and success driven professional (or so we though), otherwise BSH wouldn't have contracted her, obviously! She is not naive or innocent!
Her outfit is what made me feel like she was maniulating me. And the crying added to that believe in me.
What does culture have to do with it? Business is business. CEOs don't dress like ragamuffins in front of the media no matter what country. A paycheck is a paycheck in any language or currency. Stock options are stock options. This is not Parasite. This woman has MILLIONS. She is NOT a victim. She is an expert manipulator which is what makes her good at her job. She can make you buy what she's selling.
あえて日本語で書くけど、日本人も結構騙されてるのが、「韓国ではミンヒジン擁護が増えたよ」って言うことです。本場でそうならそれが正しいのかと思ってしまう。直感が大切。
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This is utterly embarrassing. The way this woman has decided to time her sudden case of hysterics right around such crucial events for the company and has the nerve to air alleged dirty laundry to the public in ploy to gain sympathy from the people...that's a classic case of deflecting. I'm not wanting to argue with the Korean public and at the end of the day, I'm just another foreigner looking in...but foreigner or not, I think we can all agree her bratty means of putting anyone's name in her mouth while she's vying for any type of position is inexcusable. There is, and should be no room in a corporate setting where banging your fists against the floor, crying and lashing out and overall throwing a temper tantrum should be allowed. She says it's not about the money, then why has no one asked her why she's suddenly with HYBE and no longer with SM, or working at another company if she still wants to be within the realm of kpop?! Let's face it, all of them are doing the same damn thing, doling out the same kind of entertainment with pretty boys and girls dancing singing and taking photos. They'll work hard to garner a fanbase and become brand ambassadors before we can blink....so why the hell didn't she go to another company to do this? Why HYBE? To be fair, they're not entirely blameless and I know we're all here and mad at these people because we want to protect BTS and all the other artists who could get mixed up in all this. We don't have to divide ourselves near and far, but for now, we all need to go quiet and just watch. Watch what could happen when we stop feeding into this situation and see.
My take as someone with two visual degrees; she might picked the cap and sweater's colour very deliberately. Both are quite muted and cool colour, making people with her skin tone looks sicker and sadder. And it looks cheap, because of the pair being mismatched (no colour harmony) as well. So you saying that she "dressed like a hobo" is apt.
My people need to STOP sympathising for a billionaire who fucked over regular workers like us to get to her position.
You don’t need to side with Hybe (and should not), but that doesn’t mean you should root for MHJ either.
Let her taste her own medicine after years of treating her workers like crap. I could care less about two bullies fighting each other, regardless of who is more or less evil.
Agreed - I’ve said they are as bad as each and then I get called a Hybe lover 😂 yeah no… any innocent normal person would leave this to their legal team and hand over company property for the audit
I don’t get why we are accused of siding with Hybe for that. People need to remember that two things can happen simultaneously. I hate both. End of the story.
This. When i saw the forum talk of these entertainment companies employees talking about her press con... they're literally fed up with her bullshit. She's not a saint either so why talking highly as if shes the only one who worked for her group?? She didn't credit the staffs, the much more low paid workers than her, who does what she ask when she use their resources for her group. And here she is claiming how shes a slave, a billionaire slave.
It's just human nature to look at a conflict and think one side has to be the good guys.
yes, idgaf for them... let's watch this drama until the end and continue to support our favourite idols.
I certainly agree with everything you've said. It was somehow convincing at first but then the obvious came out that it's just a play.
This reminds me of kpop survival shows that are rigged and everyone in korea is shocked but everyone in america is like..ofcourse its rigged.
Yes, I have a co worker who is a bully and. A manipulator. Management does not want to confront her.... because she is goid at sales. When my co-worker told me what happened the day after that happened. I went to my manager and asked him do you know that she is bullying her? I told thrm if they will not talk and do sothing with this person I will go to HR and tell them myself. I told them I will not be bystander doing nothing when I see someone being bullied. They gave her a warning. ..
She is a con and manipulator... Hybe should put her away in prison so she will not do it again. Let hervpay for the damage she did to the company. Hybe is not perfect but what she did is BETRAYAL 3.0
It's almost like being sheltered or living in a sheltered environment. It's why people can be easily manipulated and believe everyone is kind or helpful.
#OnceAToxicSMEmployeeAlwaysAToxicSMEmployee
Trust me, if BTS were from my country they'd be treated like Gods or Kings
I kept getting recommend your videos on this situation and I'm so glad I clicked. I love that you're bridging the gap between the Korean pov and international pov. You explain everything really well, and your personality is great on top of it! Every time you call her Ms.Min it makes me laugh 🤭. Looking forward to the video on the kkt messages she showed because not much has been translated... especially curious on the one talking about the OMG music video since it's been used in this insane cvlt allegation drama....
Why do Koreans think snakes are unique to them only? I come from a country where politicking means you meet the people where they are during the rally and then you drip at your pvt functions. That’s why I saw through her the instant I saw her hair. I was like she is going to cry and appeal to emotions. She did that in 3.5 seconds. It was all so predictable and so to see ppl fall for that was willful ignorance. They WANTED to believe her because sometimes it makes one’s life seem bearable. Especially when she called herself a slave. Even in the Western world, Steve Jobs dressed for the occasion.
I think everyone has worked with someone like this. Thank you for the context, this helps explain why so many people are going to bat for her, and the specific things people use to convey vulnerability/one of the people/I'm the victim are indeed often culture dependent so easy for outsiders to miss. I stand by my comment on the other video though - this may well work for her, but she's throwing other professional women under the bus in the process and making life harder for them in the long run. If anyone else has found themselves dealing with a coworkers who behaves this way and struggled to make sense of it, look up the Cluster B personality disorders and I can almost guarantee one of them will ring some bells in terms of the person you were dealing with.
Totally agree with your analisys!!!!
MHJ's initial appearance was in April. It's August now, and her deliberately created drama was, largely laughed at by international fans. Have Korean fans finally seen the light? Or are they still blind?
Korean work space culture is toxic and many have said that it tends to be much harder for women employees and that is what MHJ used and victimized herself which made ppl sympathize with her cause they have put themselves in her shoes and got emotional. Hence they call her a hero for being against her higher ups forgetting the fact that she IS a CEO herself. Its the hybe employees people should feel bad about. 80% of the work behind an artist are done by them and she is only thinking about herself and her group.
manipulation at it's best. As someone who has BPD I know these tactics a little too well.
Yeah, they wear it like a badge of honour! It’s soooo frustrating.
Even before this when newsjeans was rising she was tring to stick to them in every interview and talk show and create a image that i am the onw who own newjeans. Newsjeans mom is a very cringy title
Min must be a marketing genius. She was able to get almost a whole country to buy her story. But I can’t think of any country where making that much money makes her a poor person being used and taken advantage of. I do believe in karma as I have seen it several times - what goes around comes around.
'Beware your sin will find you out' come's to mind with this woman and the 'your reap what you sow' and she's sowing weeds.
@@eileencritchley4630 If they manage to impose a substantial disciplinary sanction on her, they could effectively take back their shares for 2.2 million euros. The most enjoyable thing about this whole sad, hateful affair is that after the dismissal she will never find a job again. She can say goodbye to the two million euro salary and the 73 million euros that she managed to get from Bang PD and become a TH-camr, with all due respect to TH-camrs.
I feel like Hybe got flat footed in the PR game. I kept waiting for a war room point by point response to her outrageous framing and lies and it never really came or I missed it. Where was their press conference? If you can lie about being a Mother….i have no children and I would Never say that. Maybe I’m cynical but it was so obvious that she’s a greedy lying lying lying-face .
I think hybe didn't do a press conference because it'd be useless. the korean people are already on her side and they've even stated that no matter what she did they'll support her because she's going against a company and usually koreans have a resentment towards corporate companies due to their own personal bad experiences with their bosses. So they don't care at this point whether she's really wrong or not. They just think she's the less powerful one and that's why they should support her. So now no matter what hybe does or says they won't be on hybe's side. They did give a point by point response to her but it was a written long statement released as a press release. They didn't go on a livestream like her. I also think they are not coming out with a press conference(live) with new info because they need to save evidence to present it in court first. If they show it to public first, it's value in court will be diminished. Usually this is why in legal cases, the lawyers try not to say much details in public. It's helpful for the court in this way.
@@madkmadk6809 Thanks for that nuanced response. I guess my desire for fairness and justice meted out immediately got the best of me. I’m just a fan of BTS feeling protective. The wheels of the Gods grind slowly and all that…Hopefully.
@@SuzyCue I'm also an army trying to get our boys protected. It was a huge mistake on hybe's part to get this women as CEO while knowing her past misconduct and her jealousy towards BTS success. This is going to be a learning lesson to them on why not to forgive or hire people who have wanted BTS's downfall in the past
@@madkmadk6809 I could not agree more. I’ll go listen to Magic Shop and have faith… Still kinda hoping for a Cypher 5 after all this. 🤣💜🫶🏻
@@madkmadk6809 Agree 💯👍. Hey, thanks again for adding to my understanding. I appreciate you taking the time. Gawd, I get so tired of the gaslighting and manipulation….Hoping for the best though and a Cypher 5 😂. 💜
Not only in this case, I don't know why Korean society can't appreciate someone else achievement like they always find something negative about them or their past life, accused them as if they wanted to pull them back in their level again.
As I said before why on earth Bang PD gave her 18% of ADOR out of goodwill???this is purely business malpractice and on the top of that all the luxuries she is enjoying by just be a director artistic..how many in Korea got the same salary she got?? Bang PD was bankrupt when he started….all of this on the back of BTS hard cash??she needs to go.there is no debate about that
Another excellent video. Very good explanation of her clever strategy and insight into cultural prejudices. Speaking truth to power just like AH in Depp v Heard. Thank you!
I posted this comment in your earlier video about MHJ, and I think it is worth sharing here again:
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Hey Sean, thanks for your video. I learned a couple of new things, but I'm still not entirely convinced by your overarching argument that MHJ is solely to blame. I'd like to touch on a few fallacies in your argument and then delve into some key points you seem to have overlooked. These omissions demonstrate that MHJ's situation is far more intricate than the narrative of "MHJ playing victim and not being grateful for the opportunities HYBE has given her."
One common fallacy I've observed in your and other commenters' arguments is what I refer to as the performativity or sincerity fallacy. This misconception suggests that if someone appears theatrical, their argument can be disregarded outright. However, this notion is flawed for two main reasons: Firstly, individuals can display theatricality while still making valid points. Secondly, everyone, to some extent, engages in performance to shape public perception and narrative. For instance, just as MHJ demonstrates victimhood through emotional displays, HYBE tries to paint itself as the victim through corporate legal means.
The second fallacy I've noticed is what I call the gratitude or privilege fallacy. This misconception operates under the assumption that if someone grants you an opportunity, particularly someone of higher rank, any subsequent conflict automatically places blame on you for not appreciating the privilege bestowed upon you. However, it's crucial to recognize that merely providing an opportunity, as HYBE did for MHJ in supporting her new girl group venture, doesn't absolve them of corporate, moral, or ethical responsibility when conflicts arise.
Now, let's address the points overlooked in your account of MHJ v. HYBE.
1. The crux of the conflict in MHJ doesn't revolve around which girl group falls under MHJ's leadership, but rather concerns the utilization of her name and creative input. Often overlooked is HYBE's hiring of MHJ for her significant brand value, intending to leverage her name to enhance the credibility of a new girl group. Hence, your argument at 28:22 saying that MHJ would be working at McDonald’s without HYBE hiring her doesn’t make any sense. MHJ's name carries considerable influence, acknowledged by both parties. MHJ was specifically recruited to spearhead HYBE's first girl group bearing HER NAME. Initially promised full creative autonomy and minimal interference by BSH, she later found him reneging on all commitments. BSH sought to attach her name to Le Sserafim's debut, a group unrelated to her, and interfere with the composition of her own group, NewJeans. Considering these circumstances, it's understandable why MHJ felt aggrieved."
2. You rightly acknowledge MHJ's desire for her own label, as she openly admitted. However, you argue a contradiction arises when she claims her actions in ADOR do not constitute corporate misconduct. These are distinct points and don't inherently contradict one another. MHJ expressed her wish for a label where she could exert full creative control, but she also stated that during HYBE's recruitment process, they assured her of financial backing, freeing her from concerns about the business side while focusing on her girl group. In her perspective, HYBE's failure to uphold their promises led her to explore alternative options. However, much of her discussion regarding Project 1945 was speculative and impractical due to ADOR's 80%-20% profit-sharing system. Korean legal experts, not affiliated with MHJ's legal team, have addressed this in Korean newspapers, suggesting that it would be challenging for HYBE to prove any coup based on this evidence.
3. You seem to be skipping over the fact that this incident has at its core an incredibly successful product that MHJ has created, not HYBE. HYBE injected capital, but the creative direction and work all fell upon MHJ. So the big question here, which is also the reason why the Korean public is siding with MHJ, is whether HYBE has the moral and ethical authority to dismiss MHJ after making use of her effort to create a top girl group AND then plagiarize its concept for another group. The Korean public sympathizes with her because HYBE seems to treat her like a disposable resource: she has created something great, something that she is very attached to, and now she’s asked to walk away from what she created. Anybody in this situation would be angry as well.
Ultimately, the verdict rests in the hands of the Korean courts to carefully evaluate the evidence. However, I hope that in your future videos, you'll offer ample room for considering both sides of the narrative before reaching a judgment on who is in the right or wrong!
She should walk away when she was breach of trust
Nah bro on the other hand you’re too MHJ sided. In business u gotta handle things professionally within the agreed corridors and legal framework, MHJ clearly had breached trust and just because she had created something great and valuable for the company, SHE IS NOT EXEMPT from legal boundaries. If you have a problem with the way things work you can clearly pursue aggressive legal discussion privately and avoid hearsays - even more avoid swirling the public opinions with emotional narratives that dont seem to anawer ANYTHING legally being talked about🤡🤡🤡 can we grow up
I want to thank you for this video bc all Koreans were attacking me on reddit 😂 i was going insane. my question is : why she behaved like this in the press conference just to win the general public opinion? to me the court opinion is more important but MHJ sacrificed that, bc the things she shared & the distorted truth can render heavy penalties from her contract. can you make an additional video explaining why MHJ strategy is to have the korean public on her side? it won't make any difference if the court has all the evidences of her illegal trade & plans to take over... what can the korean public do? bc the majority of international opinion is overwhelmingly against MHJ & want her out ASAP
Why does this remind me of what happened to Tablo many years ago. 😭😭😭
Only Koreans can be fooled by her but we can see through this woman…the court has just decided the next court date anyway she will be dismissed..Koreans did not like BTS and HYBE to begin with we internationals were the ones to push through for BTS to be where they are today we will stand by HYBE
I have a similar experience of being the one labeled a bad guy accusing the "nice guy" in my case only to have a similar situation of a coworker calling me months later to let me know the "nice guy" got fired for everything I told them about him and I got let go for because no one else stood with me at the time so I was labeled as the evil b***h accusing people and causing turmoil. It's so frustrating sometimes when you can see right through someone obviously manipulating but it's like everyone else is under some spell not taking a couple seconds to think about whether the words and the actions match up.
Now i can understand why there's so many Kdramas like these. manipulations and power grabbing dramas taking place.
Yes her performance in that press conference was strategic, well thought off. maybe her greatest performance ever. from the moment she stepped in that room..its all that..a performance. and it worked. from her clothes, to her tear streaked face (is it just me or does it seem like there's something below her eyes that makes her tear up), her plead not to take too many pictures etc..i still cant believe people fell for that.
So basically you're saying that Koreans are gullible & easily swayed by histrionics. Whereas international peeps are distrustful of histrionics allowing them to see a manipulator easily.
Thankfully, Korean general public don't determine what is lawful behavior. Usually a judge or panel of judges do.
I think it's despicable that a woman who hasn't been at Hybe that long & was in charge of only New Jeans can make more money than BTS who built that company. She didn't even produce, write lyrics, or create music. She simply created an image for branding purposes. Worse, she claims those styles were uniquely her creation & how dare any other group copy them --- when all along she simply ripped off the styles of western female hip hop artists of the 1990s & 2000s. What a joke!
Hello, I love your show. Did you watch the Kpop channel here on hosted by S Korean reporter/journalist Kim and he has just reported what happened in court in the most recent video just released. There are English captions. You should watch it. It appears that Hybe is winning round 1 in the courts. It was really interesting!
Can you give me tha channel name or atleast a link to video? I wanna watch
@@madkmadk6809 YT gets mad when we send links. They think it's spamming. It's the Kpop word and then "shock". It is from last night and use captions. The more recent live streamed vids haven't been translated yet.
@@alicesworld1 thanks. I think i found the channel called "kpop shock". I will watch their recent subbed videos to know the legal outcome
@@madkmadk6809 Yes, that is the channel. He always supplies facts as a journalist. He deserves more subscribers than he has. He is Army!
@@alicesworld1 thanks for introducing him to me. Now that i know that he's army and on BTS's side, i will subscribe him
⭐ Well, HYBE already just won their first battle against her in court (2nd, if you count the court's refusal on her first delay request) and got approval for the shareholder's meeting to be held, so unless something drastically flips the situation, it seems she will be fired imminently.
Everyone loves an ‘underdog’. She played to that. But we are not Korean, we read the transcripts, which turns the drama down from a 10 to a 2. What you read is ‘I, I, I, me, me, me’. Her messaging was all over the place. It made it a whole lot harder to trust her. What turned me off was her painting PD Bang as a monster.
I’m not saying he’s an angel - no one who builds something as big as HYBE is. But, I’ve seen the pictures of PD Bang cooking Jin a meal and the letter he wrote the boys when they went on their first vacation (when RM lost his passport) and how he never takes credit for BTS achievements. But I’ve seen her take credit for NJ success.
This is how I feel about a certain political person in the US. How can anyone see this person as kind, caring one wit about anyone else or a victim?
It's mind-boggling.