I don't understand how New Jeans is getting away with this. How can they disrespect the company they work for and say they're terminating their contract and yet still go on tour using the resources of the company they said they no longer want anything to do with?
ador mgmt is simply acting with strategy, not pure emotion. the girls think everything is going fine. well, yes, in their tiny bubble called phoning (their exclusive app).
I think you need to separate the issues. 1. New Jeans express that they have terminated the contract. Depending on what the contract entails, either Hybe or New Jeans will have to file a lawsuit with the court. This will determine if the termination is lawful and who pays who. 2. New Jeans are still working on projects with Ador because these were signed and agreed upon before the termination. They risk legal issues if they abandon them. That is the projects they said they would continue doing under Ador and Hybe. 3. The tour, independent activities is stuff that will happen independent of Hybe. Either they think they will get money from Hybe to do the tour or they already have a new backer and this termination is something happening to ensure they can go to their new sponsors.
They are “changing” the industry by showing other artists that it’s okay to throw unfounded tantrums when they don’t get their way. They are muddying their image and careers to follow one person on a power trip. They have all the potential in the world but, instead of focusing on their craft, they’ve allowed themselves to be used as tools to fight someone else’s battle. NJ was on the rise with growing popularity, but they let this person drill into their heads that big bad HYBE was after them. No, HYBE was after HER because of her back door dirt. NJ will never recover if they don’t let go of MHJ and place their careers as a priority. Even if the succeed and go with MHJ, no one in the industry will trust this woman and the other companies are not going to want to walk on eggshells around NJ in fear that they’ll be labeled as “bullies” when someone doesn’t smile at them.
It's pretty clear that legally they have no case. That's why they're going fully on emotions, and zero facts. Now that a lot of people are tired of NJs antics, the Bunnies are acting like victims. I saw on a forum someone crying saying "there's so many haters, there's no safe place for Bunnies!" I find the cognitive dissonance astonishing. Because Bunnies are one of the meanest, most toxic fandoms. They were bullies from the start, always attacking other groups, excuse me if I don't feel sorry for you. Like I've been saying this whole time, I can't believe there are still people on NJs side. If they were any other group, the public would have cancelled them instantly. Bunnies are like a cult. The leader is MHJ, of course.
@@junerabinmomma roach’s shaman sent her a text telling her to put the cakes she made in the freezer. Moms asked her if the cakes will open their minds more, and she said yes, and she told her, then I should feed some to (???), I forget exactly her wording, but basically BSH, and company heads. So we know witchcraft is going on.
I read the Korean comments under Dispatch’s upload of 👖 press conference and it was pretty scathing. There doesn’t seem to be much of the support that their fans claim there is
Exactly she was trying to establish a coup and she ended up using these girls and they are so dumb and they don't realize it like I just really keep wondering like where the hell are their parents and their legal team because anybody would tell them that they don't have a legal leg to stand on so they should just cut their losses and get back to work
Totally agree with you, and after she failed at that, she needed another way, so she started using new jeans as a weapon, and these foolish girls fell for it never bite the hands that feed you.
@@Goldwnjames4198 ...especially when those hands have fed you well, providing everything you needed... and in NJ's case, enough to buy yourself some dignity and self-respect. NJ are very foolish girls to remain loyal to a desperate manipulator.
Imagine hiring someone and giving them all the resources and support they need to form a group. But once the group starts getting popular, they plan to backstab you and leave your company with the group so they that can have all the money for themselves. That's exactly what Min Hee Jin did.
I'm not on MHJs side but as CEO of a company it is not illegal to search for investors and strategies to take over said company, morally is the most shaitty behavior, and doing it against one of the most money driven company in the k-pop industry it's just idiotic
Bunnies,it's time to open your eyes and face reality. I’ve consistently argued that the contract remains valid because NJ violated the legal timeframe for Ador to respond. Procedural breaches, not just material breaches, have legal implications. Ador has neither materially nor procedurally breached the law, whereas the girls have violated both. 1. Workplace Abuse Claims: The claim that the employer abused NJ in a shared mutual space (4th floor) is equivalent to alleging workplace bullying because someone unrelated to the company made a comment in a restaurant. By law, such claims hold no merit unless directly linked to the employer's actions. 2. Dolphinee's IP: The IP in question belongs to Ador. As the legal owner, Ador has the right to decide how it’s used, including pulling content at a sponsor’s request. Ador has no obligation to provide detailed legal reasons for such actions. 3. Training Photos: These weren’t released by Ador but by external media. The blame should be directed there, not at Ador. 4. Corporate Governance: Decisions about Ador’s CEO or management fall under the board of directors' purview, not the idols or employees. It’s a company’s right to operate its business without interference. 5. Legal Standing:NJ’s trip to Japan, arranged by Ador, is a tacit acknowledgment of the contracts' validity. Fulfilling contractual duties contradicts their public claims of termination. The procedural timeframe for cancellation was violated, which legally nullifies NJ’s claims of termination. Ador has continuously fulfilled its duty to protect NJ by providing managers, transportation, and legal responses to threats. Beyond this, it’s not Ador’s job to act as guardians or replace parental care. 6. Press Conference: The press conference appears more like a strategic media stunt than a legally grounded move. If it were legally advised, proper legal arguments would have been presented. This seems orchestrated by MHJ, not legal experts. 7. National Implications: The demand to reinstall MHJ as CEO reeks of tampering. If any judge sides with NJ, it risks setting a dangerous precedent that could destabilize not only the K-pop industry but also the broader Korean economy. This case has drawn in entities like the National Assembly, Ministry of Labor, and others, escalating it to a national issue. Final Thoughts: Ador is handling this strategically, and NJ’s participation in recent activities confirms their contracts are still valid. If I were Ador, I’d ensure NJ fulfills all contractual duties moving forward. Any refusals should be documented as breaches, ultimately leading to grounds for legal termination. This isn’t just about contracts-it’s about safeguarding the business model and preventing manipulative precedents. As for MHJ and NJ, they’re playing a losing hand in a much larger game.
I agree! Thank you for the detailed POVs. It is right that Ador is continually fulfilling contractual obligations for NJ until end of their contract. I think the main word here to watch out is BREACH of contract. And watch and see who does it.
@@Be_kind_and_polite come to think of it, they're safeguarded in their tiny bubble called phoning (the app they exclusively use with their "fans"), yellow journalists are busy trying hard to sway public opinion, it's mainly team bunnies active on x, and here on yt we have paid channels specifically set up to malign hybe and ador. the litigation process has just began with the court in cali approving hybe's request for information on who's behind those channels. wild ride ahead haha
If they really left, they need to leave the company, penthouse, everything. They can’t have it both ways. These girls have started years of litigation and are not prepared for what’s coming. Hybe/Ador has more money and better attorneys. No other company will take them, because no one will want to pay $300-500MILLION DOLLARS for whiny/problematic girls with all the drama. there is a legal binding contract between both ador and 👖
I'm sorry but they need to understand the hard way that how extremely lucky they were to get so many opportunity. So many hybe groups also got a lot of fame but still they try to be as respectful as possible. Honestly when you look at bts, seventeen how little opportunity they got being self made and having so less resource but stillnjow they are so respectful it's crazy. They also should start from scratch then they would understand.
BTS and other groups are still humble. While newjeans because of fame, penthouse, etc. Their head is so big that you should be careful around them, you should smile as possible and greet them or else you will see at National Assembly. They demand special treatment.
They re on their way with lesson 1. Dispatch just released an article that Hybe boy just went through and translated. Dispatch provided receipts. They have been given chats by one of the parents, pictures of mhj meeting people she shouldn’t be meeting when she was working for Hybe and hanni meeting mhj and her lawyer the day before the National Assembly when they said mhj doesn’t know anything about what the girls were doing.
I am not an expert on K-pop, but I have to say that all the idols I have seen are incredibly kind, so respectful, polite, caring. Maybe in private they are different, but in public they are certainly very respectful. What do these terrible girls have to teach those beautiful guys? I think they just consider them disgusting, even the 14-year-old trainees. As for the breach of contract, it is obvious that if the artist behaves like that the label will destroy him, there is no need to learn that from NJ.
@@bqanto In public they are doing their paid job. Even if they feel disgusted show must go on. Their career in SK depend on how much fandom can have to support them economically so the agency keeps having interest for them and sometimes the agency don't cares even like that. Blackpink with all their billion followers and barely don't have songs. It's a considerably different world than that of the freelance musician who is published by a Label.
I fully believe those who think NJ are innocent and did no wrong, are either underage or very dim in the mind. you can still like an artist/group and realize how bad of a path they've taken. but we have minors out here saying "hybe isn't very smart" but from what I'm looking at, they're a pretty big company and have their own legal team. guess who doesn't? i could care less about delusional fans, they don't understand logic either. but 20 year olds should, especially bc they were once MINORS and were in a huge company, you should be cautious in general. even so, WHERE WERE THE ADULTS?? i do care about newjeans but i can't defend actions done on emotional impulse, its SELF SABOTAGE ATP. they will suffer but MHJ wont, stupid all around bc MHJ should be in their place rn. I'm more concerned that they have no actual unbiased adults around to tell them how the look to the fans and the public as well as HOW BAD things can get, that companies will DRAG IT OUT for years. i know that BSH has not been the brightest person either, unfortunately he funds these groups and if i were any of them, i would not be taking this route to get what i want. there is MORE DAMAGE done to them, than the company itself, stocks are perhaps 1 of the losses hybe can really get. but NJ can lose it all, the "bad and bullying" company they're trying to leave, has funded everything they never had to work for, and still are until the contract itself has been LEGALLY dismissed. its just sad to see they've decided to take the worst path to do this. they are the only ones willing to look entitled, bratty, and scummy to the public in order to keep a horrible person around. none of this even changes KPOP, they're the only ones who WOULD do this in such a manner. every other group or idol who has done this or anything similar, did it correctly and never went through something this controversial. they are the example as to why you should talk to a legal team or someone who can actually get this done the right way.
What do you mean none of this changes Kpop? New Jeans can literally be the leading example of why contracts would be much stricter, controlling and less favorable to new Kpop groups in the future, to prevent new entitled & backstabber groups from emerging.
There is no way the legal team at Hybe would not have anticipated each of these moves. There is most certainly a plan in place but they will reveal it at the right time.
I find it ironic that they cry about being bullied when they are the bullies. I bet if you dig back far enough they were bullies in school too, surprised no one has come out to accuse them.
They will lose anyway. 1. If they are found guilty of breach of contract, they pay, and their reputation is ruined. 2. If they leave without paying, kpop and their reputation is ruined. In anyway, nobody will want to invest on them or consume their music.
I cant see any court in this world that would side with NewJeans. The way they handled this whole situation is very unprofessional. They come out and pretty much quit but they still want to do activities as NewJeans because of all there product endorsements. ADOR is again taking the high road and pretty much letting these girls do what ever they want. They are clearly willing to run through a brick wall for MHJ and they will regret it in the long run. HYBE has lawyers as we speak putting their case together against MHJ and NewJeans and this is definitely going to be an expensive court battle.
Hybe is actually very smart because publicly they are letting the girls basically self-destruct and humiliate themselves and violate contract law. The legal case is what matters. Contracts are not meant to be opened for negotiations lol Like these girls dont know anything. Their parents have I'll advised them
Luckily Hybe/Ador has just been handed a gift which they will be able to use against mhj and nj in court. Dispatch just released evidence of the plot with receipts. Even one of the family members of the girls is leaking MHJ’s plotting. Hybe boy just translated the article on his channel.
At this point I feel all of this media play is to simple hurt BSH and Hybe. To bring them down. To hurt their continued global competitiveness. This was the other part of MHJ plan aside from taking NJ she wanted to destroy Hybe, let’s not forget that!
I feel sorry for the good staff at Ador who have worked tirelessly for the project for years; they must feel so betrayed by OldNews and worried about their future jobs, etc…
@@gray_7 very true witchypoo and second hand Kmart jeans have done so much damage to so many people and they still think they are the victims it’s disgusting behaviour
Has NJ adequately (or to use their word "sincerely") acknowledged the staffs' hard work in being the backbone of these entitled brats, or expressed any concern for what the staff are going thru?
NJ's disrespect to BSH is what I hate most about this whole drama. Their open and brazen smirks over the mere mention of BSH's name is unacceptable. They are not even 5 years into the industry. He is not perfect, like the rest of humanity, but I don't think he has personally done anything to NJ to be disrespected to that extent. Those girls still owe him a lot of what they are now.
I'm not a big fan of BSH or Hybe, but he provided all the support he could to Min Hee Jin and New Jeans, only for them to backstab him. NJ were literally the most spoiled group in Hybe. I think BSH is still being very lenient with them. If I were in his place, I'd have dungeoned them till eternity.
@jbcroos918 face blindness is a thing. He had a problem recognising V when he was still a trainee. When you have hundred of artists and trainees plus lots of employees, and they change their looks constantly... no wonder! Plus if you are focused on a problem, you might not even be aware of what is around you. His job isn't to recognise them! His job he fulfills towards Hybe and that also allowed Ador to exist and 👖 to be given the chance of a lifetime.
Thats right. The audacity of NJ to force HYBE to pay them after they 'cancel' the contracts while they're work for somenone else. The fact they are the reason why HYBE lost the stock because of them has proven to the world that NJ are CHAOS and NOT LOYAL. No companies want to bring CHAOS aka NJ into their companies.
@@thatsfxxkinodd A company is made up of people. The New Jeans members have been treated well and enjoyed many privileges. They have been entitled, bratty, and whiny. They have been hostile and very rude to other individuals at the company. They have used all their power as public figures and pretty women against people in their own company who do not enjoy pretty privilege and/or their level of celebrity. Also Hybe as a company has been very gentle and easy on MHJ & New Jeans considering all the unjustified disloyalty and provocation.
Those girls are evil. I can't stand them. I don't want to see them on TV and hear them anywhere. Causing so much chaos and lying everywhere, bullying other idols and new ADOR CEO, siding with an evil witch and her manipulation to take down HYBE and other idols. Just a bunch of selfish leeches.
I agree this was all planned to take down other groups and hybe and make a mess for them in the public eye while bts is away. Jealousy is a very ugly thing. These girls actually think their bigger and better than bts. Keep dreaming
I said that when they first announced the audit. I always thought she was an SM plant. And I think she was behind Scootergate too. SM been harassing Bighit since 2014...
I think it's the parent company of SM, Kakao that's backing MHJ. They need support for Kakao Entertainmrnt & the same investors that MHJ allegedly spoke with funded the Kakao purchase at SM. But you are so right that SM has been harassing BH since MHJ was creative director for EXO & EXO-Ls got so stirred up. The fan club president at the time was actually employed by SM. M has never gotten over BTS surpassing EXO.
Then I hope they have the money set aside to pay the penalty for these girls and any future lawsuit that ADOR brings about tampering….in which case, good bye to the Kayak IPO forever!
Recently to everyone shock Gidle renewed their contract, nobody has dissed cube more than gidle, which shows if you are willing there always room for negotiations.
Yet you have dense people calling them ‘spineless’ and saying they are ‘all talk’ but they don't understand that their objective was to get the upper hand rather than losing everything they have worked so hard for🤦🏽♀️
All I can see is NJ breaching every single part of their contract with nonsensical allegations whereas Adore is simply clearing off all their accusations with solid proof... just want this whole thing to end.
YES! I brought that same point about meeting deadlines into TikTok comments. Weird how no one would submit their work early but still felt ADOR should’ve done it. As though it wasn’t significantly harder for a massive corporation to make major changes under that kind of time limit. As a business advisor, I can confidently say that these people are delulu. And probably children. Just like their idols. Which is why this is so damn messy.
Don't worry their doing that themselves,they can try auditioning on kdrama's ,and be B Actors !😎this stupid entitled twats will soon find out their dispensable.
@nneichan9353 HYBE will go on, the former artists that were known as New Jeans will be known for their 30 minutes of music...which HYBE owns and will continue to get $ for every time it gets played...the former artists will get zero, will not be able to perform any of those songs again, get paid for them or use the name. Too bad so sad...
Oh NJ is changing Kpop all right, like scaring foreign investment away with this stunt. Because that won't inspire a healthy reaction from powerful people in the industry, who have a lot more riding on Kpop's success than some Svengali and her five Stockholm cases, have in their little con. 🍿
The loss of investments would be catastrophic for the industry for a while, but also only for the young aspirants who can't pay for their own training. Only rich kids would be able to learn singing, dancing, languages, oratory, styling, etc. Quickly, companies would set up their own academies to charge for a service that they provided as an investment before. However, these academies would be very elitist and the industry would lose great future artist just because they have to make a living in other jobs.
@@IsabeleThorns ok, here is a speculation. These big companies will never heavily invest in groups and give good wage incentives and profit percentages, if they know any time some sniveling brats want to get out of their contracts, they can just walk. Who is going to invest in that? Idols better get some high paying part time jobs, because they are never going to make the money they can now. Things are going to go back to the old days where they live in crappy 2 bedroom apt, have to have their training,rent and meals deducted from any earnings they make. Nj is singled handedly throwing kpop industry back in the old days, where very little good came out of it. Way to go *itches!
Most foreign workers' visas are connected to their employers, but if their contract is terminated according to them, what happens to hanni and danielle?
Danielle has a Korean mother and might be OK, there are reports she was living in SK before she became a trainee. Hani is a foreigner and might have to move back to Australia. If she's being sued she'll be allowed back in on a special visa but not one that will allow her to work. Her current work visa is in Ador's name and depends on her remaining under contract afaik
HBYE is the one who maybe holding their visas so I believe he’s has to send them back home, and if that’s the case it will be a rude awakening for them. That’s when it will hit them like a ton of bricks.
“New Jean If you don’t face challenges in life, such as hard work, struggles, or even criticism from staff and elders, you may miss valuable opportunities to learn from them. These experiences can guide you toward success on your path. For example, BTS faced immense struggles, worked hard, and endured hate and bullying. Despite it all, they rose to become the best K-pop stars in the world.”
NJ was marketed as BTS’ “little sisters”, but what you stated is the difference between them. BTS never changed themselves or blamed others to build themselves up. NJ resorted to that and it’s hurting them.
Well the new jeans needs to take their example if they wanna be global artist stop being spoiled brats and bullyss themself.no wonder I never care for them.could tell the dont have what it takes too do hard work to be Successful They had 2 years of a high which everything was given to them Money music All that was done by adore They don't appreciate anything and they think they're entitled Will those little girls wake Because they're gonna end up with nothing
After BTS got big they never whined that other groups were copying them. In fact, when they were coming up it was other groups that tried to accuse BTS of copying them. Get this, there were weird SM stans who tried to drum up controversy because BTS performed in school uniforms... something that literally every kpop group ever has done. Weird how the plagiarism issue keeps popping up whenever Spider Lady is around like it's her weapon of choice, because yeah she was at SM at the time
@@jasminelee6149 it has already started. Dispatch released some screenshots which suggest an internal conflict between MHJ and one of the parents of New Jeans
Actually I can’t really understand why the thing is going to be so complicated, if njs has strong evidence of ador’s breach of contract, why not just file a case, that’s the best way, right?
@@Dousha_X The strong evidence NJ has are "TEARS" and "LIES". Thats why they don't want to file a case. They don't have any strong evidences. NJ and MHJ are BULLIES.
@@rafaelsmith5737 It's weird that MHJ publicly shamed Illit, a barely debuted group of kids, for plagiarism when she knows very well that the idols don't chose their concept and look. She knew how easily the public takes to attacking groups when they are smaller yet painted a target on their backs when they were trying to gain fans. She should have handled this in the boardroom with their label rather than tell the public that they did something that she knew they had no power to do. She's a disgusting, vile bully who has no issue causing harm.
What these entitled brats don’t realize is, IF they get away with this, and Korean contractual laws are changed, they will be hated by every single kpop artist in the industry, as well as the other companies. They may as well forget about ANY activities in the west, which includes television shows, doing festivals, no more Coachella, Lollapolooza, concerts, recording in the west. Actually, anything that requires a legal contract- which is EVERYTHING. Nobody in the West will touch a kpop group if this is left go, without major repercussions. Thank heavens Hybe and BTS are well established globally, and most likely not affected by this side of the industry. This will definitely destroy nj in the outside music industry, so they better get used to the view from the bottom of the well, because they are going to be branded by this stunt, which will make them too risky to work with. Hope Korea is all they aspire to.
This is why MHJ is so scary. I am almost positive that MHJ set them up by putting them on this path,and placing them directly under the bus. I think they were brainwashed, but I also believe they are responsible for their actions. I am somewhat concerned for their mental health, especially when the world crumbles all around them.
😅 the opposite in their eyes. The mommy have taught them that their position is far above other people, above company, above the law. Such behavior is what we call then brats. But that's us. They think they behaved as they should have, then they were the ones who were hurt, they were the victims. They think that they're the ones who are now paving the way for KPop to dare to speak, dare to free themselves, dare to complaint if a staff or a CEO didn't great them, so on. Look, they care abt the future of KPop. Investors will byebye? Well it'll be the company fault. Or someone else's fault. They're creating a new path lol.... Ps Sorry... I can't with those five so I can only joke left en right.
Ador need to wait if they want to sue them. Ador should wait until New Jeans do not follow their working schedule or doing business outside Ador. If New Jeans still follow their schedule with Ador staffs, the world will laugh to them, except Min Hee Jin fans.
I want someone to tell me what other entertainment company is gonna want that mess because at some point, if they don't get what they want, they will do the same thing to them that their doing to hybe.
@@01mchk10 opening your own company and employing half the number of staff that NJ enjoys at HYBE would takes a lot of money. hence, why NJ are trying to rip off HYBE every way that MHJ guides them to.
They created so much drama and even said that they terminated the contract with Ador and now they are going back to their dorm. How embarrassing that is! They don't want to pay, and so they'll need to stay at the company until 2029. That will be difficult for them to stay after these 14 days.
I’m usually pro artist because they are often taken advantage of by large companies but in this case New Jeans needs to suffer consequences. One has to be smart when dealing with situations like this and they have proven they are either ill informed by legal counsel or they are just making decisions based purely on emotion which is always a poor choice. I anticipate that after this is over, unless one or two of the New Jeans members gain clarity as Keena of Fifty Fifty did, their careers are over. No one is willing to invest in a group that has demonstrated they will just arbitrarily walk away if their “feelings” are hurt or they just don’t like something on a whim. Who wants that risk? I hope the brands are paying attention to this. Looks like it’s time to pull those ambassadorships and seek out more stable and reliable kpop groups.🤦🏾♀️
Honestly, the Sth Korean legal system and Government, should look at acting in the full letter of the law, to do otherwise would set a precedent that would have long reaching implications not only on the Kpop industry but contract law, overall. The country could be thrown into economic crisis if everyone who is unhappy with a contract simply did whatever Jeans are doing. I suspect that most major Corporations & Businesses will be looking at what these Mean Girls are doing with trepidation. I'm quite sure behind closed doors there is a lot of lobbying going on to Politicians to ensure that New Jeans contract is upheld, and a significant penalty for breach of contract be imposed, as they would want to discourage other disgruntled employees from copycat actions.
It is as what I have been claiming all the time. First, contract is still valid because NJ violated legal timeframe for Ador to respond. Not only material breaches of Law count, but also procedural (process) breaches count and have legal effects. While Ador materially and procedurally (processually) breached nothing, these girls breached the Law and Ador's lawfully protected rights even processually (proceduraly). Second, claiming that your employer abused you on that 4th level mutual space shared by different companies, is same as I would claim that my emploer bullied me because I went to restaurant in building I work in, and some random visitor from that restaurant, nobody from my company though, said "ignore her", or god forbid, spell coffe on me. Or as I went to McDonald's where someone yelled at me, and then start threathing my contractor to terminate the contract because of non existing (even by law terms) and non proven workplace bullying. Dolphinees case - whatever they claim, it is still Ador's IP and Ador who responds to stakeholders, law and sponsors - can do what the hell it wants with it. As soon As Ador asks contractor to pull out certain video or whatever on sponsors demand, that party has legal duty to do so. Ador is not even obligated to quote legal reasons for such decision. Ador's IP. The training photos haven't even been published by Ador so girls are barking at wrong organisation - they should bark at media that posted those. And last but not least, who is CEO of Ador and how is company being managed is not any idol's business, any employees business, it is board of directors decision (and board is directly respondibg to stakeholders and owners of the company), and it every company's right to freely persuie its business activities. This right of free business initiative is protected by law. We are talking about private owned company, baby. If you dislike how is it organised or who is managing it (not your concern anyway), you are free to form your own company with your own money and organise it as you wish. Stop bossing private owners what they should do with their ownership. It is their's, not yours. You can't sh!!t on someone else's property just because you dislike who the owner is and how is it being managed. Hybe's house, Hybe's rules. Sean, thanks for this vlog, it vas very informative and it is good that we finally heard real legal experts talking. Not those so called legal experts cheerleading for NJ (bunnies uncles) that were also very loud about how not saying helo is workplace abuse, while they clearly knew that legally that's complete nonsens. And yet they were lying and manipulated public opinions with nonsense about workplace bullying. . Some of these still claim that NJ has good case against Ador. It actually doesn't have case at all. POST FESTUM: 1. demand to reinstall MHJ as CEO reecks of tempering. 2. If any judge would say yes to NJ, this would destroy not whole kpop industry that is based on heavy investments in idols, but also whole Korean economy, as I warned many times. MHJ and NJ are alone in this, there is literally no company that would support such legal prencedens (including evil Kakao). 3. The fact that girls went in Japan in Ador's arrangement means that they legally acknowledge VALIDITY of their contracts, that contracts are still ongoing. This is how the law sees it. Mark my words. 4. Ador did not protect NJ? Do you have bodyguards hired by Ador every time you travel somewhere or attend some event, NJ girls? Don't you have Ador's manager driving you around, taking care of your safety and comfort? Did not Ador react every single time when NJ got media threaths or was attacked by netizens with public warning of strong legal response? Ador did all that. And this is how it is Ador's job to protect you. Nothing else. Ador isn't kindergarten, nor replaces your parents. It is business in which NJ are equal contractual partners. For other kind of protection go to your parents. 5. Banghyuk is chairman of Hybe, a mother company, he also doesn't have anything directly with Ador or you. He is in managerial spheres of mother company that aren't business of any idol to deal with. 6. And to end my comment with this: if I was Ador, I would proceed exactly as Shawn said. Girls showed up on Ador's arranged activity in Japan, meaning that "we cancel contracts" was nothing but public emotional breakdown in organisation of MHJ, and that legally it meant nothing - girls fullfilling their contractual duty today in Japan is legal proof that they weren't serious about terminating their contracts, although they naively still believe they were serious. Not to mention that they violated 14 days deadline, because of which contracts are consequently de facto and de iure valid, because this is what the law says). If I was Ador, I would pack them with duties, just as Sean cleverly suggested - and every time they would refuse to do the job, I would write it down till enough of breachments would accumulate, and then ADOR can give them legal notice of cancelling contracts with them. Christmas is coming, there is plenty of activities Ador can demand from them to fullfill. And as I said: that press conference wasn't under legal advice, if it was, legal answer/argumentation would be presented on that very press conference. It was on MHJ's advice and arrangement. If I was Ador (ha ha - but I'm not) I would collect the proof e.g. ask prosecutor to give green light for investigation under suspicion of tampering. Why the prosecutor and not just lawsuit on the court, you will ask? Am I insane? Well, not really. It is because Nation Assembly made this case a national problem, and a lot of money is at stake. Free business initiative visciously attacked for months, resulting in significant fall of company's stock value . Because many state entities were already dragged into this. Not just National assembly, also Ministry of labour, Ministry of defence, etc. Min wanted it national. Then let's have state prosecutor in this and make it REALLY national. Investigating into how even the National Assembly became active party in processes of tampering of an idol group. And I'm not even joking. But Ador knows it all much better than I do. So bring up popcorn, show has just begun. PPS: Last time I posted somewhere else that I believe that whole press conference was just a show because Min needs media titles and to fk up V's new single release. Maybe I wasn't wrong....
Very well said! They also ignored the many attempts ADOR made to contact them and discuss further, it will backfire. They do not want to work with ADOR but still want all the benifits they provide like millions worth pent house, body gaurds, designer clothes. They are contradicting themselves. They preach that they are in because of their love for music but not one of them have actually contributed any minute thing in their music. It’s honestly laughable at this point
It is truly astounding that these girls are 20 and have NO CLUE what they have done!!! They cut their own throats in the business 😮 Why didn't they talk to somebody before they did something So stupid!!!😮
They did? Why do you think they stared at their social media devices like that? They even changed reponses after reading what was written. Probably MHJ. The lawyer is hers I think. It's just not with people who have their best interest at heart. The girls believe their own brand the way their Ex-CEO has spun it - it happens quiet often to childstars in the US for example. They would just like to live the wy they are used to living without deeper thought to it instead of becoming responsible themselves for everything.
Until the courts settle this, in a final way, Ador should not turn their back, on The Headmistress & students of the IOT, AND Ador best sleep with one eye open.
For some reason the way hybe has been responding and overall making moves during this whole mess makes me feel like they new what will go down and have been planing everything for a while. I have never seen a big ass corporation act this polite in the media when the other side literally has a smear campaign against them.
HYBE is gathering info behind the scenes. Keeping everything close to them. Not giving away anything. Everything they are doing, everything they say, and everywhere they go is going to be used against NJ and MHJ.
I can’t wait to hear what you think about NJs parents taking over as management. Isn’t that also a breach of contract and wouldn’t it make their parents liable to be sued by Ador?
Imagine all the marriages that can be ended at the stroke of press conference! No matter who is backing MHJ and how deep their pockets, I can’t see how the industry allows the legal system to let these girls get their way.. I can see how the Legal company took this case…. It’s a long shot but they could set a precedent that changes the face of contract law in Korea, so why not???? They get paid anyway even if they lose. Even beyond the entertainment industry… what happens when the engineers at Samsung decide to end their employment contracts and walk away with any IP that they created unless the company changes the CEO….This is bigger than just the entertainment industry! Korea will become the wild wild west that no one will touch with a barge pole!
@@justSunny7Kmart is going strong in Australia/New Zealand but yes you can buy brand new jeans for 7-15 au$. Had to laugh at the analogy made by justlibby :)
Great video! MHJ is keeping you busy, Sean! Dispatch dropped new MHJ text messages and more soon after your video! Looking forward to your video on that
I hope they get an eviction letter from HYBE when they come back from Japan, offering them different accommodation because their penthouse is needed to create a visiting guesthouse for Hybe artists or as the doggie daycare for the Bantan dogs! Also if their separate makeup studio is not written in the contract, I would take that away too but give them their own dedicated spot in the Hybe makeup studio…. Basically anything that is not tied down in the contract, I would systematically take away every other month!
I think they’d have more support if they were solely doing this for themselves and not mhj. They were basically begging for her attention during that press conference. And if they at least tried to make it work with new management.
I appreciate you presenting the facts from different lawyers. I was waiting for the Jezebel comment ,so not only was I informed but I got a good laugh. thanks
People were speculating on Twitter that Ador will not sue the girls but they will sue anyone who works with them as interfering with their contracts. I'm also thinking back to how MHJ fought with HYBE to get unilateral ability to terminate contracts, which HYBE refused to do. I wonder how that is impacting things?
I'm going to have to rewatch this, I got a little distarcted by the rabid rabbits in the chat... If you need some friendly neighbourhood pest control... I'm available! 😎😂
These rabids are really strange not sure why they are even here am thinking they are trying to target Sean they seem to try everything they can to try and distract from fact
You know what's wild? I never heard a kpop song before becoming a BTS fan, and even after 4 years I'm still reluctant to call myself ARMY bc I'm THAT DEEP into not wanting to throw 100% loyalty behind people I don't know and who don't know me. But BTS is the closest I've ever come to stanning something. There were some kpop songs I enjoyed, but rarely enough for me to follow a group (Mamamoo was probably the only group I kept up with). UNTIL NewJeans. I loved their toned-down music and visuals, and as a y2k teen it all appealed to me. And even better I actually really liked 99% of their songs. I was playing their whole discography every morning to start my day. I wasn't a fan of more of their recent music though (how sweet was ok). I was getting bored when I heard that they still weren't letting go of that Jersey Beat type music. I liked it when I thought it was just a part of a specific concept or project, but then it followed to the next project and I realized, oh, I guess that's just their sound now..hmm, ok. THEN MHJ played that unreleased song at the Samsung event, and I'm not the best ear for music but IT SOUNDED JUST LIKE THEIR SONGS FROM TWO YEARS AGO. Anyhow, I was fatigued at the fast beat, soft vocals sound and stopped following their music. I'd listen to maybe 20 seconds of new releases, and as soon as I heard that beat I'd click out lol. So I forgot about NewJeans until this whole debacle. I never followed debuts for GG or BG bc 100% of the debut songs I listened to never stood out to me so I gave up. I knew I liked NewJeans' sound (even if I got tired of the lack of variety), so when I heard that there were supposed "copy cats" called Illit, I gave them a listen and WOW. I was blown away lol. I think they have like 8 songs and not a single one was a miss, AND THEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT, and the music videos were bright and colorful and fun. So now I play Illit's whole discography every morning. Thanks NewJeans! Oh, and it sounds nothing like NJ to me. It's fun, playful, cute, great hooks (that don't just rely on vibes). And the girls themselves seem more approachable than NJ. It was clear from the beginning and even from the MVs that NJ was always meant to only appear down to Earth, but really their brand has always been to be separate, elite, aspirational, too cool. How they debuted, how they promoted, how they interacted (or didn't interact), and now we're learning, how they functioned within HYBE, they really leaned into that "not like the other girls" untouchables vibe and I think it's coming to bite them.
Same, I'm an ARMY, but of course I listen to other Kpop groups so there's no way I wouldn't know New Jeans. The so called BTS "lil sisters" However, since the beginning I've never liked them & their music despite how popular their music is. I guess I'm just not fond of Kpop music in general. However, upon hearing Illit Magnetic, it strangely felt so similar to BTS music. After looking at the credits, it makes sense.
Their fans called them DIVA's for standing up for themselves.... i was like.. a DIVA?.... what kind of Diva they referred to?... for them being 'mistreatment by hybe/ador?'... I really hope they regret their decision, i really wanna wish them all the best in the future... but i just can't... their stupid behaviors & attitudes are something tht i cannot accepted... i think they dont want any other GG from hybe being more popular then them... tht why they being so childish and selfish... koz they want JUST them being popular, being loveable my everybody..
LSF & ILLIT are doing so well, and GFRIEND in January. I am so proud of ILLIT, fighting against hate, lies, and attempts at sabotage and still moving forward. May God continue to shine his light upon them and bless them with abundant successes as well as all the other artists within HYBE. Of course, Bangtan will continue to be the most successful BB, breaking more records, infinite achievements, and successes. #hybefighting #adorfighting
they probably ran away to avoid paying up. maybe their parents don't want to help pay their daughters debt or maybe their parents were like, "you are on your own kid". NJ made a mess and they must be responsible. Notice MHJ "left' them too. they are done for after this. the few supporters they have are only sticking around because they were Hybe antis to begin with and love the drama. even thought NJ are from a different company.
NJ : Getting mad because they are being 'ignored' ONE TIME. Also NJ : Ignoring ADOR, goes to press conference without consult anyone and arrive late at media conference. Me : Seems like they are not good employees. No wonder people hates working with NJ. A bunch of entitled brats/bull!es.
They called for emergency press conference without consulting with lawyers. A legal attorney can explain to themselves what is legally million won contracts cancelation are. They have to sell those Gucci, Dior, Vuitton, Chanel, Celine, brands to pay 620 billion won for damaging the company also the bringed of contract illegally and quiting. Just let a judge tell these kids in the court hearing that their attitudes are naivety and acting arrogant. They should go back to school and study hard. 6 years training 3 years in kpop group aren't pros when their brains aren't wise.
I honestly think if New Jeans succeeds you can forget Kpop coming to America. Americans already don't like the bullying that is rampant in the Hallyu wave. We are tired of the Children of Machiavelli being in charge. I mean, it happens here but why import more?
Yep. If NJ tried to pull these stunts in America, they'd get mercilessly dragged before being cancelled stat, while potentially ruining opportunities for other up-and-coming kpop artists. BTS alone had to overcome a LOT to be accepted and respected in the industry through hard work and talent, and because of BTS (and frankly, BSH), the doors of opportunity were pryed opened for other aspiring SK artists. NJ, with their rep as spoiled rotten entitled brats, would propagate the opposite.
New jeans is changing the Kpop industry, by having idols think it’s okay to pull this stunt I’m sorry but they need to leave and pay the penalty, like this is getting exhausting having witness probably once a month having them make some type of demand but never actually go through with it
NJ are just a bunch of entitled brats/bull!es. NJ is really changing KPOP industry. Now, they can become the example on how the bull!es can be Kpop idols too.
I hope their company takes full legal action, against them and their parents. I question how the parents in this situation are supporting their delusions and are publicly admitting to supporting these decisions.
Exactly. It's going to b business as usual for Ador. With no court ruling in effect, Ador will continue to plan n implement activities for NJs. Girls, if u don't turn up, expect legal notices. If Ador incurrs financial penalties for your no shows, rest assured these will b included in the legal paperwork. NJs, if u wanna work Ador says thank you for the income. If u don't wanna work lawyers will b sending you love letters lol.
One thing I've learnt about HYBE is that they give you the "rope" and make you believe you have the upper hand while they get their ducks in a row and by the time they are done you have wrapped that rope so much around yourself you have no way out. It's quite sad to see these young girls throw away their careers like this cause if anything they could have just used HYBE as their stepping stone and than branched out when their contract ended with an established career and brand image, but now they are showing everyone else that they are a problem to work with which could come back and bite them in the azz when it comes to endorsements and brand deals
Even if we say that they succeeded leaving ADOR/HYBE, what will happen to their career? Given that this is a big company, I can’t imagine what will happen to them. I guess, it is smart to just keep quiet and wait for the contracts to end just like what happened to other kpop groups. This will not benefit them in the long run.
The only reason they're splitting from ador now is because going against HYBE didn't worked they fired the ceo of Ador ,so now they're trying to split from Ador because they didn't fight against Hybe... for their former CEO
Forget the GEDs. Miss Min thinks she’s teaching a master class of The Art of The Steal!! I’m tossing my bag of popcorn for a big box of animal cookies. The K-Pop scene is about to become a zoo!!!! Amazing times we live.
That's why I called them stupid hens: they want to destroy the investment system in k-pop, thanks to which even poor but talented young people are able to become stars.
These girls are ludicrous and a disgrace to any industry, but especially K-pop. They are rookies, and would they have been this popular without Hybe? I think not - they are a dime a dozen. Debut in 2022 then spend an entire year on this BS? And SERIOUSLY - we are terminating our contract, but we will fly out tomorrow for our schedule and of course advertisements- anything to continue to make money and be in the spotlight. I really hope that Hybe throws their weight, and buries them for the remainder of their contract. Isn't it breach to hold bi-weekly whine fests publicly? I think all activities should be stopped for all of our sanity and maybe they can get therapy and self reflect.
Even when I don't like these girls (I was a bunnie before), I feel genuinely worried that MHJ will become some kind of PIMP and make those girls do atrocities for their own gain. In the same way, those parents are as guilty as that witch.
Jesus Christ, I hope they lose everything they worked for & that no one in their right minds invest in them in the future. I’m not saying Hybe is innocent either but omg NJ really are some whiny ass brats 😒
@iamjerrytv_0802 They’re going to keep going downhill from here. If they can do this to their own company and bully their other label mates, other companies should avoid them at all costs. The fact NJ DEMANDS respect but is so disrespectful to the hands that fed them, is what gets me 👀
I don't understand how they do not understand that if you get suspended or you officially leave the school you won't be able to that school's field trip the next day like huh the company is not family or parents that you go around throwing ur tantrum to agree with ur demands
Thanks for analysis. I now see the brilliantly evil plan by the Witch and her cohorts. Disgusted. The serious consequence could be the destruction of the kpop industry alas. This plan was clearly made by high levels of knowledge and people. This could be a turning force for Korea. Let's pray for good judges
Why is it that ever since this issue started, fans of other groups are more worried about the future of the NewJeans girls than the girls themselves, their parents, or the Bunnies? It's ridiculous. It's so irresponsible to just incite the issue and not have to take responsibility. From the outside, it seems like HIBE and ADOR, who are suffering huge losses, are more concerned about the future of NewJeans.
to tell you guys honestly. There's no HYBE and ADORE VS MHJ AND NJ, There's just how MHJ would gain and how NJ members would loose everything including those girls dreams. Those girls will gonna have a hard time when they'll gonna face reality. Right now they thought MHJ will Protect them but once all of this is over they'll gonna face a harsh reality.
One last thought By engaging in activities arranged as part of their contract with ador they are actually saying the contract still exists so ador can take it as nj accepted the terms of the contract as "modified by ador unilaterally" The parties will know the contract ended when nj doesn't fulfill their obligations or ador doesnt pay nj Because if ni said the contracted is terminated ador has no obligations to nj and technically nj has no recourse arguably they are volunteering right now
The real problem is we don’t know what it says in the NJs contract. Ador can’t publish it without being in breach. If one of the investors that has dropped out or been dropped by MHJ has a copy, I wish they would leak it.
Así que usan los recursos de la compañía, el presupuesto y los contratos que les consiguió la empresa, más el nombre y las canciones, que son de la empresa. 😂😂😂 Pero si renunciaron 😂😂😂😂 ésto no es renunciar 😂😂😂😂
If ADOR stays open, I think the next group will be amazing. It would be a perfect Karmic event for the ones who used underhanded methods to steal it. Hybe is a young company. They will learn and grow from this. It was built by BTS, Bighit and BSH. With that foundation, they will bounce back even better. They are not perfect, but they were already progressively ahead of the other labels. We don’t know what happens behind the scenes but I trust BTS and they could have left , but didn’t. Even if the courts side with NJ, ADOR and Hybe can rise above it. Even if MHJ evades jail, they will come out on top. All the groups are doing well in spite of this.
I believe in BTS and follow them. BTS believe and trust in BSH and they support BigHit and HYBE. I hate how this girls have benefited from BTS blood sweat and tears. They are so rude and disrespectful to BSH and HYBE. I hope that HYBE lawyers through the books at them. They are the bullies. Everything they have accused HYBE of is what they themselves are guilty of. The audacity of it!!
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I don't understand how New Jeans is getting away with this. How can they disrespect the company they work for and say they're terminating their contract and yet still go on tour using the resources of the company they said they no longer want anything to do with?
They didn’t get away with anything yet!
This. They're so entitled.
Watching their so called secret Live makes you understand how entitled these girls are. They really think they're 100% victims@@Reverie_reveals
ador mgmt is simply acting with strategy, not pure emotion. the girls think everything is going fine. well, yes, in their tiny bubble called phoning (their exclusive app).
I think you need to separate the issues.
1. New Jeans express that they have terminated the contract. Depending on what the contract entails, either Hybe or New Jeans will have to file a lawsuit with the court. This will determine if the termination is lawful and who pays who.
2. New Jeans are still working on projects with Ador because these were signed and agreed upon before the termination. They risk legal issues if they abandon them. That is the projects they said they would continue doing under Ador and Hybe.
3. The tour, independent activities is stuff that will happen independent of Hybe. Either they think they will get money from Hybe to do the tour or they already have a new backer and this termination is something happening to ensure they can go to their new sponsors.
They are “changing” the industry by showing other artists that it’s okay to throw unfounded tantrums when they don’t get their way. They are muddying their image and careers to follow one person on a power trip. They have all the potential in the world but, instead of focusing on their craft, they’ve allowed themselves to be used as tools to fight someone else’s battle. NJ was on the rise with growing popularity, but they let this person drill into their heads that big bad HYBE was after them. No, HYBE was after HER because of her back door dirt.
NJ will never recover if they don’t let go of MHJ and place their careers as a priority. Even if the succeed and go with MHJ, no one in the industry will trust this woman and the other companies are not going to want to walk on eggshells around NJ in fear that they’ll be labeled as “bullies” when someone doesn’t smile at them.
THIS comment should be at the top!
@@AnneMorr they are changing the industry more than your little group that you Stan okay? Haters like you keep whining
@@mahmudayesminlipi9308 lmao u mad bro?
Now all big companies will have even stricter contracts which will ultimately harm the idols. Wow what a change they brought. 👏👏
They have opened a Pandora box 🤷♀️
It's pretty clear that legally they have no case. That's why they're going fully on emotions, and zero facts. Now that a lot of people are tired of NJs antics, the Bunnies are acting like victims. I saw on a forum someone crying saying "there's so many haters, there's no safe place for Bunnies!" I find the cognitive dissonance astonishing. Because Bunnies are one of the meanest, most toxic fandoms. They were bullies from the start, always attacking other groups, excuse me if I don't feel sorry for you.
Like I've been saying this whole time, I can't believe there are still people on NJs side. If they were any other group, the public would have cancelled them instantly. Bunnies are like a cult. The leader is MHJ, of course.
They are pretty princesses, who needs a savior and rapid bunnies and middle aged mennare ready for the task.
they are under some sort of spell.
@@junerabinmomma roach’s shaman sent her a text telling her to put the cakes she made in the freezer. Moms asked her if the cakes will open their minds more, and she said yes, and she told her, then I should feed some to (???), I forget exactly her wording, but basically BSH, and company heads. So we know witchcraft is going on.
@@junerabinпод долларовым
I read the Korean comments under Dispatch’s upload of 👖 press conference and it was pretty scathing. There doesn’t seem to be much of the support that their fans claim there is
Remember all this happened because mhj couldn’t accept responsibility for trying to screw over hybe by taking ador away from them lol
Exactly she was trying to establish a coup and she ended up using these girls and they are so dumb and they don't realize it like I just really keep wondering like where the hell are their parents and their legal team because anybody would tell them that they don't have a legal leg to stand on so they should just cut their losses and get back to work
Totally agree with you, and after she failed at that, she needed another way, so she started using new jeans as a weapon, and these foolish girls fell for it never bite the hands that feed you.
@@Goldwnjames4198 ...especially when those hands have fed you well, providing everything you needed... and in NJ's case, enough to buy yourself some dignity and self-respect. NJ are very foolish girls to remain loyal to a desperate manipulator.
Imagine hiring someone and giving them all the resources and support they need to form a group. But once the group starts getting popular, they plan to backstab you and leave your company with the group so they that can have all the money for themselves. That's exactly what Min Hee Jin did.
I'm not on MHJs side but as CEO of a company it is not illegal to search for investors and strategies to take over said company, morally is the most shaitty behavior, and doing it against one of the most money driven company in the k-pop industry it's just idiotic
Bunnies,it's time to open your eyes and face reality.
I’ve consistently argued that the contract remains valid because NJ violated the legal timeframe for Ador to respond. Procedural breaches, not just material breaches, have legal implications. Ador has neither materially nor procedurally breached the law, whereas the girls have violated both.
1. Workplace Abuse Claims: The claim that the employer abused NJ in a shared mutual space (4th floor) is equivalent to alleging workplace bullying because someone unrelated to the company made a comment in a restaurant. By law, such claims hold no merit unless directly linked to the employer's actions.
2. Dolphinee's IP: The IP in question belongs to Ador. As the legal owner, Ador has the right to decide how it’s used, including pulling content at a sponsor’s request. Ador has no obligation to provide detailed legal reasons for such actions.
3. Training Photos: These weren’t released by Ador but by external media. The blame should be directed there, not at Ador.
4. Corporate Governance: Decisions about Ador’s CEO or management fall under the board of directors' purview, not the idols or employees. It’s a company’s right to operate its business without interference.
5. Legal Standing:NJ’s trip to Japan, arranged by Ador, is a tacit acknowledgment of the contracts' validity. Fulfilling contractual duties contradicts their public claims of termination.
The procedural timeframe for cancellation was violated, which legally nullifies NJ’s claims of termination.
Ador has continuously fulfilled its duty to protect NJ by providing managers, transportation, and legal responses to threats. Beyond this, it’s not Ador’s job to act as guardians or replace parental care.
6. Press Conference: The press conference appears more like a strategic media stunt than a legally grounded move. If it were legally advised, proper legal arguments would have been presented. This seems orchestrated by MHJ, not legal experts.
7. National Implications: The demand to reinstall MHJ as CEO reeks of tampering. If any judge sides with NJ, it risks setting a dangerous precedent that could destabilize not only the K-pop industry but also the broader Korean economy. This case has drawn in entities like the National Assembly, Ministry of Labor, and others, escalating it to a national issue.
Final Thoughts: Ador is handling this strategically, and NJ’s participation in recent activities confirms their contracts are still valid. If I were Ador, I’d ensure NJ fulfills all contractual duties moving forward. Any refusals should be documented as breaches, ultimately leading to grounds for legal termination.
This isn’t just about contracts-it’s about safeguarding the business model and preventing manipulative precedents. As for MHJ and NJ, they’re playing a losing hand in a much larger game.
I agree! Thank you for the detailed POVs. It is right that Ador is continually fulfilling contractual obligations for NJ until end of their contract. I think the main word here to watch out is BREACH of contract. And watch and see who does it.
@@annesilva21 I love your point by point rebuttal!thank you! Too bad those girls don’t have someone like you advising them
@@Be_kind_and_polite come to think of it, they're safeguarded in their tiny bubble called phoning (the app they exclusively use with their "fans"), yellow journalists are busy trying hard to sway public opinion, it's mainly team bunnies active on x, and here on yt we have paid channels specifically set up to malign hybe and ador. the litigation process has just began with the court in cali approving hybe's request for information on who's behind those channels. wild ride ahead haha
I want them to start exposing that everything New Jeans is doing is malicious and then sue them.
Amazing summary. I took the liberty to use your text to respond in another video - and credit you :) )
If they really left, they need to leave the company, penthouse, everything. They can’t have it both ways. These girls have started years of litigation and are not prepared for what’s coming.
Hybe/Ador has more money and better attorneys. No other company will take them, because no one will want to pay $300-500MILLION DOLLARS for whiny/problematic girls with all the drama. there is a legal binding contract between both ador and 👖
It's so embarrassing that (the former) New Jeans went back to their multi-million dollar penthouses after doing all that drama. 😂
@@BiA-hg7qr they have a penthouse?
@@Mellisa_Nguyen23 They are literally the most spoiled group in Hybe. They live a luxurious life unlike most Idols who have to share rooms.
I'll say it again. Where are the right minded parents?
@@junerabinthey have no right minded parents, the parents are probably after the money too.
I'm sorry but they need to understand the hard way that how extremely lucky they were to get so many opportunity. So many hybe groups also got a lot of fame but still they try to be as respectful as possible. Honestly when you look at bts, seventeen how little opportunity they got being self made and having so less resource but stillnjow they are so respectful it's crazy. They also should start from scratch then they would understand.
SAY IT LOUDERRRRRRRR
BTS and other groups are still humble. While newjeans because of fame, penthouse, etc. Their head is so big that you should be careful around them, you should smile as possible and greet them or else you will see at National Assembly. They demand special treatment.
They re on their way with lesson 1. Dispatch just released an article that Hybe boy just went through and translated. Dispatch provided receipts. They have been given chats by one of the parents, pictures of mhj meeting people she shouldn’t be meeting when she was working for Hybe and hanni meeting mhj and her lawyer the day before the National Assembly when they said mhj doesn’t know anything about what the girls were doing.
Sometimes things aren't worth selling your soul.
@@CloudedLeopard8588Oh... One of the parents has realized. I hope they have a decent and concerned relative who can talk to parents.
Some people learn the lesson the hard way. Some people are the lesson. New Jean will be the lesson to all the other idols.
Not just idols, but all employees who have contacts with an employer, because if NJ succeed this will have an impact on contract law overall.
Exactly, this isn't only about KPOP anymore. It's about business ethics and principles. Lessons will be learnt, that's for sure.
I am not an expert on K-pop, but I have to say that all the idols I have seen are incredibly kind, so respectful, polite, caring. Maybe in private they are different, but in public they are certainly very respectful. What do these terrible girls have to teach those beautiful guys? I think they just consider them disgusting, even the 14-year-old trainees. As for the breach of contract, it is obvious that if the artist behaves like that the label will destroy him, there is no need to learn that from NJ.
beautiful guys? lmao@@bqanto
@@bqanto In public they are doing their paid job. Even if they feel disgusted show must go on. Their career in SK depend on how much fandom can have to support them economically so the agency keeps having interest for them and sometimes the agency don't cares even like that. Blackpink with all their billion followers and barely don't have songs. It's a considerably different world than that of the freelance musician who is published by a Label.
I fully believe those who think NJ are innocent and did no wrong, are either underage or very dim in the mind. you can still like an artist/group and realize how bad of a path they've taken. but we have minors out here saying "hybe isn't very smart" but from what I'm looking at, they're a pretty big company and have their own legal team. guess who doesn't? i could care less about delusional fans, they don't understand logic either. but 20 year olds should, especially bc they were once MINORS and were in a huge company, you should be cautious in general. even so, WHERE WERE THE ADULTS?? i do care about newjeans but i can't defend actions done on emotional impulse, its SELF SABOTAGE ATP. they will suffer but MHJ wont, stupid all around bc MHJ should be in their place rn.
I'm more concerned that they have no actual unbiased adults around to tell them how the look to the fans and the public as well as HOW BAD things can get, that companies will DRAG IT OUT for years. i know that BSH has not been the brightest person either, unfortunately he funds these groups and if i were any of them, i would not be taking this route to get what i want. there is MORE DAMAGE done to them, than the company itself, stocks are perhaps 1 of the losses hybe can really get. but NJ can lose it all, the "bad and bullying" company they're trying to leave, has funded everything they never had to work for, and still are until the contract itself has been LEGALLY dismissed.
its just sad to see they've decided to take the worst path to do this. they are the only ones willing to look entitled, bratty, and scummy to the public in order to keep a horrible person around. none of this even changes KPOP, they're the only ones who WOULD do this in such a manner. every other group or idol who has done this or anything similar, did it correctly and never went through something this controversial. they are the example as to why you should talk to a legal team or someone who can actually get this done the right way.
Exactly
My 14 yr old daughter is sick and tired of this drama… she understood a basic agreement and bosses change… so she calls them brats now NewBrats…😅
What do you mean none of this changes Kpop? New Jeans can literally be the leading example of why contracts would be much stricter, controlling and less favorable to new Kpop groups in the future, to prevent new entitled & backstabber groups from emerging.
@@shasan73At least your daughter is smart
Hell they don't even bow to older groups and groups in general. They always were entitled
There is no way the legal team at Hybe would not have anticipated each of these moves. There is most certainly a plan in place but they will reveal it at the right time.
@@janetraats7380 find the shaman. It could tie up the payoff 👣
I read the best course of action is to wait till they work with someone else and sue the third party.
I agree with you, Dear @janetraats7380!
I absolutely love Sean’s idea of the reverse UNO card
New Ceo is
New Jeans have shown their true bully behavior. Now it's clear that they bullied ILLIT too.
Hybe and Ador are demonstrating maximum tolerance for all the manipulative tactics of MHj manifested thtough the girls… That’s smart! Thanks, Sean.
Poor ILLIT. New Jeans unnecessarily dragged them and subjected them to so much hate online. New Jeans is 100% the bully here.
They’re also lying. They’re saying they have voided the contract but they haven’t. That’s a lie.
Look, I just subscribed to Olivia Marsh's channel because she came up with an awesome Christmas song, just in case, MinHeJeans is no more.
I find it ironic that they cry about being bullied when they are the bullies. I bet if you dig back far enough they were bullies in school too, surprised no one has come out to accuse them.
They will lose anyway. 1. If they are found guilty of breach of contract, they pay, and their reputation is ruined. 2. If they leave without paying, kpop and their reputation is ruined. In anyway, nobody will want to invest on them or consume their music.
Rêtãrds like yourself listen to ILLIT
Wishful thinking
You just want them to lose😂
@@LilyLeFay ABSOLUTELY NOTHING will happen to Newjeans. The whole industry supports them. Keep you whining with yourself whomp whomp 😂
@@Roco-i6ccfacts are facts and not even wishful thinking. It will happen bcos they didn't terminate their contract CORRECTLY.
I cant see any court in this world that would side with NewJeans. The way they handled this whole situation is very unprofessional. They come out and pretty much quit but they still want to do activities as NewJeans because of all there product endorsements. ADOR is again taking the high road and pretty much letting these girls do what ever they want. They are clearly willing to run through a brick wall for MHJ and they will regret it in the long run. HYBE has lawyers as we speak putting their case together against MHJ and NewJeans and this is definitely going to be an expensive court battle.
Hybe is actually very smart because publicly they are letting the girls basically self-destruct and humiliate themselves and violate contract law. The legal case is what matters. Contracts are not meant to be opened for negotiations lol Like these girls dont know anything. Their parents have I'll advised them
Luckily Hybe/Ador has just been handed a gift which they will be able to use against mhj and nj in court. Dispatch just released evidence of the plot with receipts. Even one of the family members of the girls is leaking MHJ’s plotting. Hybe boy just translated the article on his channel.
At this point I feel all of this media play is to simple hurt BSH and Hybe. To bring them down. To hurt their continued global competitiveness. This was the other part of MHJ plan aside from taking NJ she wanted to destroy Hybe, let’s not forget that!
I feel sorry for the good staff at Ador who have worked tirelessly for the project for years; they must feel so betrayed by OldNews and worried about their future jobs, etc…
True,there are still lots of people involved behind stage/camera...the artists are just one part of the whole picture 😮💨
@@gray_7 very true witchypoo and second hand Kmart jeans have done so much damage to so many people and they still think they are the victims it’s disgusting behaviour
Has NJ adequately (or to use their word "sincerely") acknowledged the staffs' hard work in being the backbone of these entitled brats, or expressed any concern for what the staff are going thru?
@@laggingway1601 I hope if Ador debuts another group the call the group actual talent
@@jcasa3646no, just Mhj.
NJ's disrespect to BSH is what I hate most about this whole drama. Their open and brazen smirks over the mere mention of BSH's name is unacceptable. They are not even 5 years into the industry. He is not perfect, like the rest of humanity, but I don't think he has personally done anything to NJ to be disrespected to that extent. Those girls still owe him a lot of what they are now.
They are also Bullies to ILLIT and Le Sserafim
I'm not a big fan of BSH or Hybe, but he provided all the support he could to Min Hee Jin and New Jeans, only for them to backstab him. NJ were literally the most spoiled group in Hybe. I think BSH is still being very lenient with them. If I were in his place, I'd have dungeoned them till eternity.
It’s so disrespectful
They already accused him of not greeting them back which has been proven to be the utmost disrespect on NJ's book
@jbcroos918 face blindness is a thing. He had a problem recognising V when he was still a trainee. When you have hundred of artists and trainees plus lots of employees, and they change their looks constantly... no wonder! Plus if you are focused on a problem, you might not even be aware of what is around you. His job isn't to recognise them! His job he fulfills towards Hybe and that also allowed Ador to exist and 👖 to be given the chance of a lifetime.
These girls are bullying hybe actually
5 young adults are bullying a mega-corporation?
Thats right. The audacity of NJ to force HYBE to pay them after they 'cancel' the contracts while they're work for somenone else. The fact they are the reason why HYBE lost the stock because of them has proven to the world that NJ are CHAOS and NOT LOYAL. No companies want to bring CHAOS aka NJ into their companies.
New Jeans have shown their true bully behavior. Now it's clear that they bullied ILLIT too.
@@thatsfxxkinodd A company is made up of people. The New Jeans members have been treated well and enjoyed many privileges. They have been entitled, bratty, and whiny. They have been hostile and very rude to other individuals at the company. They have used all their power as public figures and pretty women against people in their own company who do not enjoy pretty privilege and/or their level of celebrity. Also Hybe as a company has been very gentle and easy on MHJ & New Jeans considering all the unjustified disloyalty and provocation.
@@thatsfxxkinodd I don’t see a single sign hybe bullying new jeans not even to min hee jin .. it actually other way around ..
Those girls are evil. I can't stand them. I don't want to see them on TV and hear them anywhere. Causing so much chaos and lying everywhere, bullying other idols and new ADOR CEO, siding with an evil witch and her manipulation to take down HYBE and other idols. Just a bunch of selfish leeches.
Me too I don't want to see them anywhere I can't listen to their Music anymore on Spotify i Hope all their song and Profile get removed
I agree this was all planned to take down other groups and hybe and make a mess for them in the public eye while bts is away. Jealousy is a very ugly thing. These girls actually think their bigger and better than bts. Keep dreaming
@@IamJerryTV_0802 womp womp cry pussy
Funny thing is, I never knew of them until this mess. Now, this mess is all they represent to me.
BYE BYE. $400,000,000 (MONEY LOST BY HYBE IN ONE DAY)
Plot Twist: This was all planned by SM Entertainment.
I've been thinking that's where they're actually going to go eventually
yeah. HYBE attempting to buyout a significant share of SM Entertainment surely must've ruffled some feathers (although, it's just biz).
I said that when they first announced the audit. I always thought she was an SM plant. And I think she was behind Scootergate too. SM been harassing Bighit since 2014...
I think it's the parent company of SM, Kakao that's backing MHJ. They need support for Kakao Entertainmrnt & the same investors that MHJ allegedly spoke with funded the Kakao purchase at SM. But you are so right that SM has been harassing BH since MHJ was creative director for EXO & EXO-Ls got so stirred up. The fan club president at the time was actually employed by SM. M has never gotten over BTS surpassing EXO.
Then I hope they have the money set aside to pay the penalty for these girls and any future lawsuit that ADOR brings about tampering….in which case, good bye to the Kayak IPO forever!
Recently to everyone shock Gidle renewed their contract, nobody has dissed cube more than gidle, which shows if you are willing there always room for negotiations.
Yet you have dense people calling them ‘spineless’ and saying they are ‘all talk’ but they don't understand that their objective was to get the upper hand rather than losing everything they have worked so hard for🤦🏽♀️
I was surprised about Gidle too but if even 2NE1 can sit down with YHS and talk it out, everything is possible. honestly.
@ 100% agree, at the end of the day you make decisions based on what is best for your group and your careers, you need to put your feelings aside.
This
All I can see is NJ breaching every single part of their contract with nonsensical allegations whereas Adore is simply clearing off all their accusations with solid proof... just want this whole thing to end.
YES! I brought that same point about meeting deadlines into TikTok comments. Weird how no one would submit their work early but still felt ADOR should’ve done it. As though it wasn’t significantly harder for a massive corporation to make major changes under that kind of time limit. As a business advisor, I can confidently say that these people are delulu. And probably children. Just like their idols. Which is why this is so damn messy.
I Hope NewJeans is Done and Disband ASAP gets Blacklisted and it will be a Long Distant Memory and forgot they were even a thing
Don't worry their doing that themselves,they can try auditioning on kdrama's ,and be B Actors !😎this stupid entitled twats will soon find out their dispensable.
I really hope so! So tired of them!
Same!
"OMG IM SO ANGRY BEACUSE I TOOK MISSINFORMATION AS A FACT AND NOW IM SPREADING HATE OVER THE INTERNET" Ahhhh coment 💀
@@Ohsayitditto31 dispatch already exposed the fucking truth
hard to stomach the way NJs is showing their true bullying side.
if they win then contracts are going to be at risk all around SK.
Bye bye Kpop???
@@tobyodYup....who's gonna invedt millions just for the person to leave because some rando staff didn't say 'hi.'
@@tobyod yeah, if a business can't make money off an artist, or group, it will be discarded. if an entire industry can't be 'ontrolled'...bye bye
@nneichan9353 HYBE will go on, the former artists that were known as New Jeans will be known for their 30 minutes of music...which HYBE owns and will continue to get $ for every time it gets played...the former artists will get zero, will not be able to perform any of those songs again, get paid for them or use the name. Too bad so sad...
@kanohane exactly
Oh NJ is changing Kpop all right, like scaring foreign investment away with this stunt. Because that won't inspire a healthy reaction from powerful people in the industry, who have a lot more riding on Kpop's success than some Svengali and her five Stockholm cases, have in their little con. 🍿
@@tactiletinkerer keep speculating Hybe Stan 😆😆
@@IsabeleThorns The OP made a good point. Do you have an actual counter-argument?
@@jhwwebster7273they never do, counter arguments are nonexistent, like MHJ and her little roaches…..
The loss of investments would be catastrophic for the industry for a while, but also only for the young aspirants who can't pay for their own training. Only rich kids would be able to learn singing, dancing, languages, oratory, styling, etc. Quickly, companies would set up their own academies to charge for a service that they provided as an investment before. However, these academies would be very elitist and the industry would lose great future artist just because they have to make a living in other jobs.
@@IsabeleThorns ok, here is a speculation. These big companies will never heavily invest in groups and give good wage incentives and profit percentages, if they know any time some sniveling brats want to get out of their contracts, they can just walk. Who is going to invest in that? Idols better get some high paying part time jobs, because they are never going to make the money they can now. Things are going to go back to the old days where they live in crappy 2 bedroom apt, have to have their training,rent and meals deducted from any earnings they make. Nj is singled handedly throwing kpop industry back in the old days, where very little good came out of it. Way to go *itches!
Most foreign workers' visas are connected to their employers, but if their contract is terminated according to them, what happens to hanni and danielle?
Danielle has a Korean mother and might be OK, there are reports she was living in SK before she became a trainee. Hani is a foreigner and might have to move back to Australia. If she's being sued she'll be allowed back in on a special visa but not one that will allow her to work. Her current work visa is in Ador's name and depends on her remaining under contract afaik
A slow boat to OZ?
HBYE is the one who maybe holding their visas so I believe he’s has to send them back home, and if that’s the case it will be a rude awakening for them. That’s when it will hit them like a ton of bricks.
@@elizabethbesco4758 I don’t think they will want her back. If she behaved like this there she would be made laughing stock.
@@likwid_magma didn’t know that
I think New Jeans thinks they are bigger than BTS
Thats there so calt Devil mommie MHJ think! And drag these so calt Innocent brats in it !!
😂😂😂till now in many countries K-pop= BTS... Many countries don't know anything about K-pop other than BTS... BTS Army forever
This what shes saying that newjeans are thinking themselves as stature of bts@@namratasarkar5707
This is the most chaotic mess I have ever seen. They are ruining their careers and it's sad.
“New Jean If you don’t face challenges in life, such as hard work, struggles, or even criticism from staff and elders, you may miss valuable opportunities to learn from them. These experiences can guide you toward success on your path. For example, BTS faced immense struggles, worked hard, and endured hate and bullying. Despite it all, they rose to become the best K-pop stars in the world.”
NJ was marketed as BTS’ “little sisters”, but what you stated is the difference between them. BTS never changed themselves or blamed others to build themselves up. NJ resorted to that and it’s hurting them.
Well the new jeans needs to take their example if they wanna be global artist stop being spoiled brats and bullyss themself.no wonder I never care for them.could tell the dont have what it takes too do hard work to be Successful They had 2 years of a high which everything was given to them Money music All that was done by adore They don't appreciate anything and they think they're entitled Will those little girls wake Because they're gonna end up with nothing
Bts is still getting hate from there own country to this day.
After BTS got big they never whined that other groups were copying them. In fact, when they were coming up it was other groups that tried to accuse BTS of copying them. Get this, there were weird SM stans who tried to drum up controversy because BTS performed in school uniforms... something that literally every kpop group ever has done. Weird how the plagiarism issue keeps popping up whenever Spider Lady is around like it's her weapon of choice, because yeah she was at SM at the time
This is what the Illit are going through now.
Someday they will reap what they sow. And I am predicting that they will start blaming each other.
the likelihood of in-fighting seems high, considering the egos they display. after all, they haven't been bonded as a group for very long.
@@jasminelee6149 it has already started. Dispatch released some screenshots which suggest an internal conflict between MHJ and one of the parents of New Jeans
Yes likely
This! And the first two to be blamed by the rest will be Minji & Hanni. Wait and see.
It's already happening. Dispatch released a lot of things today.
Actually I can’t really understand why the thing is going to be so complicated, if njs has strong evidence of ador’s breach of contract, why not just file a case, that’s the best way, right?
@@Dousha_X The strong evidence NJ has are "TEARS" and "LIES". Thats why they don't want to file a case. They don't have any strong evidences. NJ and MHJ are BULLIES.
That's literally like MHJ accusing Illit for copying NJ, but no plagiarism lawsuit filed. Just some dramatic press conference for public sympathy
@@rafaelsmith5737 It's weird that MHJ publicly shamed Illit, a barely debuted group of kids, for plagiarism when she knows very well that the idols don't chose their concept and look. She knew how easily the public takes to attacking groups when they are smaller yet painted a target on their backs when they were trying to gain fans. She should have handled this in the boardroom with their label rather than tell the public that they did something that she knew they had no power to do. She's a disgusting, vile bully who has no issue causing harm.
@@ZariDV totally agree
all I can really say is, they are very ungrateful.🤦
What these entitled brats don’t realize is, IF they get away with this, and Korean contractual laws are changed, they will be hated by every single kpop artist in the industry, as well as the other companies. They may as well forget about ANY activities in the west, which includes television shows, doing festivals, no more Coachella, Lollapolooza, concerts, recording in the west. Actually, anything that requires a legal contract- which is EVERYTHING. Nobody in the West will touch a kpop group if this is left go, without major repercussions. Thank heavens Hybe and BTS are well established globally, and most likely not affected by this side of the industry. This will definitely destroy nj in the outside music industry, so they better get used to the view from the bottom of the well, because they are going to be branded by this stunt, which will make them too risky to work with. Hope Korea is all they aspire to.
This is why MHJ is so scary. I am almost positive that MHJ set them up by putting them on this path,and placing them directly under the bus. I think they were brainwashed, but I also believe they are responsible for their actions.
I am somewhat concerned for their mental health, especially when the world crumbles all around them.
Worse than that- people won't say hello or acknowledge them in the hallway!
😅 the opposite in their eyes. The mommy have taught them that their position is far above other people, above company, above the law. Such behavior is what we call then brats. But that's us. They think they behaved as they should have, then they were the ones who were hurt, they were the victims. They think that they're the ones who are now paving the way for KPop to dare to speak, dare to free themselves, dare to complaint if a staff or a CEO didn't great them, so on. Look, they care abt the future of KPop. Investors will byebye? Well it'll be the company fault. Or someone else's fault. They're creating a new path lol....
Ps
Sorry... I can't with those five so I can only joke left en right.
@@bparry2406 Hahaha, see what you did there 😅
Ador need to wait if they want to sue them. Ador should wait until New Jeans do not follow their working schedule or doing business outside Ador. If New Jeans still follow their schedule with Ador staffs, the world will laugh to them, except Min Hee Jin fans.
I want someone to tell me what other entertainment company is gonna want that mess because at some point, if they don't get what they want, they will do the same thing to them that their doing to hybe.
They’d be opening their own company and be their own make artists, stylists, bodyguards, etc! 😂😂😂
@@Goldwnjames4198 same company that hired the nasty ex fifty fifty ones
@goldwnjames4198 NONE! They are now liabilities to any companies that are involved.
@@01mchk10 If they are in their own Company I really Hope it will FLOP they already Destroy the rep
@@01mchk10 opening your own company and employing half the number of staff that NJ enjoys at HYBE would takes a lot of money. hence, why NJ are trying to rip off HYBE every way that MHJ guides them to.
They created so much drama and even said that they terminated the contract with Ador and now they are going back to their dorm. How embarrassing that is! They don't want to pay, and so they'll need to stay at the company until 2029. That will be difficult for them to stay after these 14 days.
NJ make themselves look like entitled squatters. I'm embarrassed for them.
They have no shame. They will stay there until they are evicted, and that will give them something to whine about in their next press conference.
I’m usually pro artist because they are often taken advantage of by large companies but in this case New Jeans needs to suffer consequences. One has to be smart when dealing with situations like this and they have proven they are either ill informed by legal counsel or they are just making decisions based purely on emotion which is always a poor choice. I anticipate that after this is over, unless one or two of the New Jeans members gain clarity as Keena of Fifty Fifty did, their careers are over. No one is willing to invest in a group that has demonstrated they will just arbitrarily walk away if their “feelings” are hurt or they just don’t like something on a whim. Who wants that risk? I hope the brands are paying attention to this. Looks like it’s time to pull those ambassadorships and seek out more stable and reliable kpop groups.🤦🏾♀️
Honestly, the Sth Korean legal system and Government, should look at acting in the full letter of the law, to do otherwise would set a precedent that would have long reaching implications not only on the Kpop industry but contract law, overall. The country could be thrown into economic crisis if everyone who is unhappy with a contract simply did whatever Jeans are doing. I suspect that most major Corporations & Businesses will be looking at what these Mean Girls are doing with trepidation. I'm quite sure behind closed doors there is a lot of lobbying going on to Politicians to ensure that New Jeans contract is upheld, and a significant penalty for breach of contract be imposed, as they would want to discourage other disgruntled employees from copycat actions.
It is as what I have been claiming all the time. First, contract is still valid because NJ violated legal timeframe for Ador to respond. Not only material breaches of Law count, but also procedural (process) breaches count and have legal effects. While Ador materially and procedurally (processually) breached nothing, these girls breached the Law and Ador's lawfully protected rights even processually (proceduraly).
Second, claiming that your employer abused you on that 4th level mutual space shared by different companies, is same as I would claim that my emploer bullied me because I went to restaurant in building I work in, and some random visitor from that restaurant, nobody from my company though, said "ignore her", or god forbid, spell coffe on me. Or as I went to McDonald's where someone yelled at me, and then start threathing my contractor to terminate the contract because of non existing (even by law terms) and non proven workplace bullying.
Dolphinees case - whatever they claim, it is still Ador's IP and Ador who responds to stakeholders, law and sponsors - can do what the hell it wants with it. As soon As Ador asks contractor to pull out certain video or whatever on sponsors demand, that party has legal duty to do so. Ador is not even obligated to quote legal reasons for such decision. Ador's IP.
The training photos haven't even been published by Ador so girls are barking at wrong organisation - they should bark at media that posted those.
And last but not least, who is CEO of Ador and how is company being managed is not any idol's business, any employees business, it is board of directors decision (and board is directly respondibg to stakeholders and owners of the company), and it every company's right to freely persuie its business activities. This right of free business initiative is protected by law. We are talking about private owned company, baby. If you dislike how is it organised or who is managing it (not your concern anyway), you are free to form your own company with your own money and organise it as you wish. Stop bossing private owners what they should do with their ownership. It is their's, not yours. You can't sh!!t on someone else's property just because you dislike who the owner is and how is it being managed. Hybe's house, Hybe's rules.
Sean, thanks for this vlog, it vas very informative and it is good that we finally heard real legal experts talking. Not those so called legal experts cheerleading for NJ (bunnies uncles) that were also very loud about how not saying helo is workplace abuse, while they clearly knew that legally that's complete nonsens. And yet they were lying and manipulated public opinions with nonsense about workplace bullying. . Some of these still claim that NJ has good case against Ador. It actually doesn't have case at all.
POST FESTUM:
1. demand to reinstall MHJ as CEO reecks of tempering.
2. If any judge would say yes to NJ, this would destroy not whole kpop industry that is based on heavy investments in idols, but also whole Korean economy, as I warned many times. MHJ and NJ are alone in this, there is literally no company that would support such legal prencedens (including evil Kakao).
3. The fact that girls went in Japan in Ador's arrangement means that they legally acknowledge VALIDITY of their contracts, that contracts are still ongoing. This is how the law sees it. Mark my words.
4. Ador did not protect NJ? Do you have bodyguards hired by Ador every time you travel somewhere or attend some event, NJ girls? Don't you have Ador's manager driving you around, taking care of your safety and comfort? Did not Ador react every single time when NJ got media threaths or was attacked by netizens with public warning of strong legal response? Ador did all that. And this is how it is Ador's job to protect you. Nothing else. Ador isn't kindergarten, nor replaces your parents. It is business in which NJ are equal contractual partners. For other kind of protection go to your parents.
5. Banghyuk is chairman of Hybe, a mother company, he also doesn't have anything directly with Ador or you. He is in managerial spheres of mother company that aren't business of any idol to deal with.
6. And to end my comment with this: if I was Ador, I would proceed exactly as Shawn said. Girls showed up on Ador's arranged activity in Japan, meaning that "we cancel contracts" was nothing but public emotional breakdown in organisation of MHJ, and that legally it meant nothing - girls fullfilling their contractual duty today in Japan is legal proof that they weren't serious about terminating their contracts, although they naively still believe they were serious. Not to mention that they violated 14 days deadline, because of which contracts are consequently de facto and de iure valid, because this is what the law says).
If I was Ador, I would pack them with duties, just as Sean cleverly suggested - and every time they would refuse to do the job, I would write it down till enough of breachments would accumulate, and then ADOR can give them legal notice of cancelling contracts with them. Christmas is coming, there is plenty of activities Ador can demand from them to fullfill.
And as I said: that press conference wasn't under legal advice, if it was, legal answer/argumentation would be presented on that very press conference. It was on MHJ's advice and arrangement.
If I was Ador (ha ha - but I'm not) I would collect the proof e.g. ask prosecutor to give green light for investigation under suspicion of tampering. Why the prosecutor and not just lawsuit on the court, you will ask? Am I insane? Well, not really. It is because Nation Assembly made this case a national problem, and a lot of money is at stake. Free business initiative visciously attacked for months, resulting in significant fall of company's stock value . Because many state entities were already dragged into this. Not just National assembly, also Ministry of labour, Ministry of defence, etc. Min wanted it national. Then let's have state prosecutor in this and make it REALLY national. Investigating into how even the National Assembly became active party in processes of tampering of an idol group. And I'm not even joking.
But Ador knows it all much better than I do. So bring up popcorn, show has just begun.
PPS: Last time I posted somewhere else that I believe that whole press conference was just a show because Min needs media titles and to fk up V's new single release. Maybe I wasn't wrong....
Very well said! They also ignored the many attempts ADOR made to contact them and discuss further, it will backfire. They do not want to work with ADOR but still want all the benifits they provide like millions worth pent house, body gaurds, designer clothes. They are contradicting themselves. They preach that they are in because of their love for music but not one of them have actually contributed any minute thing in their music. It’s honestly laughable at this point
@0011la as you said. They are full of bs and I think that EVERYBODY in Korea kn9ws this. Even those pretending this isn't so.
They said that they are terminated they contract but still living in Hybe's property, using company van and bodyguards... Hmmmm😅How convenient, ha?
Njs are OBSESSED with mhj, it's insane
Danielle keeps mentioning her name
The shaman did spells on them
It is truly astounding that these girls are 20 and have NO CLUE what they have done!!! They cut their own throats in the business 😮
Why didn't they talk to somebody before they did something So stupid!!!😮
At 20 they should at very least know what is right and wrong.
They did?
Why do you think they stared at their social media devices like that? They even changed reponses after reading what was written.
Probably MHJ. The lawyer is hers I think.
It's just not with people who have their best interest at heart.
The girls believe their own brand the way their Ex-CEO has spun it - it happens quiet often to childstars in the US for example.
They would just like to live the wy they are used to living without deeper thought to it instead of becoming responsible themselves for everything.
Hybe would have immediately printed anything that was posted!
@@rgober60 They are bravest than all the other Hybe Groups lol 😂
@@winkpinky1445 Don’t worry, Hybe is not that smart
Until the courts settle this, in a final way, Ador should not turn their back, on The Headmistress & students of the IOT, AND Ador best sleep with one eye open.
Hybe sent their most qualified HR expert I don't think they are sleeping
@@lawaanjaideelyon1890Hybe was expecting this. They are smart, but quiet. But then they lay their cards on the table, and watch everyone fold.
For some reason the way hybe has been responding and overall making moves during this whole mess makes me feel like they new what will go down and have been planing everything for a while. I have never seen a big ass corporation act this polite in the media when the other side literally has a smear campaign against them.
HYBE is gathering info behind the scenes. Keeping everything close to them. Not giving away anything. Everything they are doing, everything they say, and everywhere they go is going to be used against NJ and MHJ.
MHJ ruined their careers. It's very sad. Stockholm syndrome mom indeed. They are so young. But it's probably better for them to do something else.
I can’t wait to hear what you think about NJs parents taking over as management. Isn’t that also a breach of contract and wouldn’t it make their parents liable to be sued by Ador?
I'm already seeing posts in social media that state NJ is changing Kpop. I think this narrative is one of the things that are fueling their confidence
The devil works hard but MHJ works harder-
I agree. Rabid bunnies pumping it up.
@@Charm313 they actually changing the industry lol
They’re ruining girls kpop groups but they’re sinking their own ship!
@@winkpinky1445 Nah, Hybe is ruining Kpop lol
NJ would've been more legit if they had a lawyer at the press conference to speak. I wonder if any lawyer wants to touch this case.
There was a lawyer in the Livestream, she handle some of the difficult questions but then again they cannot answer it YET
@@lmg633 NJ has to have a deep pockets backer Adore is unaware of. Why are parents siding with the girls?
Imagine all the marriages that can be ended at the stroke of press conference! No matter who is backing MHJ and how deep their pockets, I can’t see how the industry allows the legal system to let these girls get their way.. I can see how the Legal company took this case…. It’s a long shot but they could set a precedent that changes the face of contract law in Korea, so why not???? They get paid anyway even if they lose. Even beyond the entertainment industry… what happens when the engineers at Samsung decide to end their employment contracts and walk away with any IP that they created unless the company changes the CEO….This is bigger than just the entertainment industry! Korea will become the wild wild west that no one will touch with a barge pole!
All second hand cheap Kmart jeans is doing is making me want to invest in HYBE cause next year those stock soar
Kmart isn't even in business anymore lol
😂😂Kmart Jeans😂😂😂
Goodwill thrift shop jeans.
@@justSunny7Kmart is going strong in Australia/New Zealand but yes you can buy brand new jeans for 7-15 au$. Had to laugh at the analogy made by justlibby :)
Great video! MHJ is keeping you busy, Sean! Dispatch dropped new MHJ text messages and more soon after your video! Looking forward to your video on that
I hope they get an eviction letter from HYBE when they come back from Japan, offering them different accommodation because their penthouse is needed to create a visiting guesthouse for Hybe artists or as the doggie daycare for the Bantan dogs! Also if their separate makeup studio is not written in the contract, I would take that away too but give them their own dedicated spot in the Hybe makeup studio…. Basically anything that is not tied down in the contract, I would systematically take away every other month!
Haha doggie daycare! Bam and Yeontan need a penthouse!!!
😅 Luv this! but....🥺- V posted earlier that lil Yeon passed away yesterday sadly 😢💔😢💔😢
@ I read this too…. It can still be doggy daycare, for Bam and other Bangtan dogs named in honor of Yeontan
@@paulalluber4264 I don't know if you heard the news but sadly Yeontannie passed away.
If they are on strike even though they are not union... then Ador should put then in the vault freezer and let their careers froze up to 5 years
11:48 it's like that line from the movie "Drum line". "You're late if you're on time, you're on time if you're 5 minutes early" 😂
I think they’d have more support if they were solely doing this for themselves and not mhj. They were basically begging for her attention during that press conference. And if they at least tried to make it work with new management.
5 cookies in a snack pack...lol.
I appreciate you presenting the facts from different lawyers. I was waiting for the Jezebel comment ,so not only was I informed but I got a good laugh. thanks
People were speculating on Twitter that Ador will not sue the girls but they will sue anyone who works with them as interfering with their contracts.
I'm also thinking back to how MHJ fought with HYBE to get unilateral ability to terminate contracts, which HYBE refused to do. I wonder how that is impacting things?
Omg when you said ged I passed out I can’t with you 😂
I'm going to have to rewatch this, I got a little distarcted by the rabid rabbits in the chat... If you need some friendly neighbourhood pest control... I'm available! 😎😂
So jobless you are right? 😂😂
These rabids are really strange not sure why they are even here am thinking they are trying to target Sean they seem to try everything they can to try and distract from fact
Insomniac I am, buddy. I got time! 😎 What's your excuse? 😂
You're welcome, Beach
@@Mikezege-g9b it's bitch, get it right 😘
You know what's wild? I never heard a kpop song before becoming a BTS fan, and even after 4 years I'm still reluctant to call myself ARMY bc I'm THAT DEEP into not wanting to throw 100% loyalty behind people I don't know and who don't know me. But BTS is the closest I've ever come to stanning something. There were some kpop songs I enjoyed, but rarely enough for me to follow a group (Mamamoo was probably the only group I kept up with). UNTIL NewJeans. I loved their toned-down music and visuals, and as a y2k teen it all appealed to me. And even better I actually really liked 99% of their songs. I was playing their whole discography every morning to start my day. I wasn't a fan of more of their recent music though (how sweet was ok). I was getting bored when I heard that they still weren't letting go of that Jersey Beat type music. I liked it when I thought it was just a part of a specific concept or project, but then it followed to the next project and I realized, oh, I guess that's just their sound now..hmm, ok. THEN MHJ played that unreleased song at the Samsung event, and I'm not the best ear for music but IT SOUNDED JUST LIKE THEIR SONGS FROM TWO YEARS AGO.
Anyhow, I was fatigued at the fast beat, soft vocals sound and stopped following their music. I'd listen to maybe 20 seconds of new releases, and as soon as I heard that beat I'd click out lol. So I forgot about NewJeans until this whole debacle. I never followed debuts for GG or BG bc 100% of the debut songs I listened to never stood out to me so I gave up. I knew I liked NewJeans' sound (even if I got tired of the lack of variety), so when I heard that there were supposed "copy cats" called Illit, I gave them a listen and WOW. I was blown away lol. I think they have like 8 songs and not a single one was a miss, AND THEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT, and the music videos were bright and colorful and fun.
So now I play Illit's whole discography every morning. Thanks NewJeans! Oh, and it sounds nothing like NJ to me. It's fun, playful, cute, great hooks (that don't just rely on vibes). And the girls themselves seem more approachable than NJ. It was clear from the beginning and even from the MVs that NJ was always meant to only appear down to Earth, but really their brand has always been to be separate, elite, aspirational, too cool. How they debuted, how they promoted, how they interacted (or didn't interact), and now we're learning, how they functioned within HYBE, they really leaned into that "not like the other girls" untouchables vibe and I think it's coming to bite them.
Same, I'm an ARMY, but of course I listen to other Kpop groups so there's no way I wouldn't know New Jeans.
The so called BTS "lil sisters"
However, since the beginning I've never liked them & their music despite how popular their music is. I guess I'm just not fond of Kpop music in general.
However, upon hearing Illit Magnetic, it strangely felt so similar to BTS music.
After looking at the credits, it makes sense.
Their fans called them DIVA's for standing up for themselves.... i was like.. a DIVA?.... what kind of Diva they referred to?... for them being 'mistreatment by hybe/ador?'... I really hope they regret their decision, i really wanna wish them all the best in the future... but i just can't... their stupid behaviors & attitudes are something tht i cannot accepted... i think they dont want any other GG from hybe being more popular then them... tht why they being so childish and selfish... koz they want JUST them being popular, being loveable my everybody..
LSF & ILLIT are doing so well, and GFRIEND in January. I am so proud of ILLIT, fighting against hate, lies, and attempts at sabotage and still moving forward.
May God continue to shine his light upon them and bless them with abundant successes as well as all the other artists within HYBE. Of course, Bangtan will continue to be the most successful BB, breaking more records, infinite achievements, and successes. #hybefighting #adorfighting
they probably ran away to avoid paying up. maybe their parents don't want to help pay their daughters debt or maybe their parents were like, "you are on your own kid". NJ made a mess and they must be responsible. Notice MHJ "left' them too. they are done for after this. the few supporters they have are only sticking around because they were Hybe antis to begin with and love the drama. even thought NJ are from a different company.
new jeans are the one bullying they want to be respected but don’t know how to respect
THIS!!!
NJ : Getting mad because they are being 'ignored' ONE TIME.
Also NJ : Ignoring ADOR, goes to press conference without consult anyone and arrive late at media conference.
Me : Seems like they are not good employees. No wonder people hates working with NJ. A bunch of entitled brats/bull!es.
They are basically “ on strike “
GO WATCH ILLIT, YOU DOG EATIN KOREAN
How stupid. Do they think that have a union? Hello law bills and seizure of property… bahaha
Idol contract in South Korea is business contract, not employee contract.
Not if they are still following their schedule.
@ true, maybe I don’t understand it, what exactly are they giving up?
7:56 Never in a million years would I think I'd ever hear a Hegel reference in a Kpop channel
They called for emergency press conference without consulting with lawyers. A legal attorney can explain to themselves what is legally million won contracts cancelation are. They have to sell those Gucci, Dior, Vuitton, Chanel, Celine, brands to pay 620 billion won for damaging the company also the bringed of contract illegally and quiting. Just let a judge tell these kids in the court hearing that their attitudes are naivety and acting arrogant. They should go back to school and study hard. 6 years training 3 years in kpop group aren't pros when their brains aren't wise.
I honestly think if New Jeans succeeds you can forget Kpop coming to America. Americans already don't like the bullying that is rampant in the Hallyu wave. We are tired of the Children of Machiavelli being in charge. I mean, it happens here but why import more?
Yep. If NJ tried to pull these stunts in America, they'd get mercilessly dragged before being cancelled stat, while potentially ruining opportunities for other up-and-coming kpop artists. BTS alone had to overcome a LOT to be accepted and respected in the industry through hard work and talent, and because of BTS (and frankly, BSH), the doors of opportunity were pryed opened for other aspiring SK artists. NJ, with their rep as spoiled rotten entitled brats, would propagate the opposite.
New jeans is changing the Kpop industry, by having idols think it’s okay to pull this stunt
I’m sorry but they need to leave and pay the penalty, like this is getting exhausting having witness probably once a month having them make some type of demand but never actually go through with it
Leave and blacklisted!
LOL New Jeans think they're some kind of revolutionary figures. They are so embarrassing.
They don't wanna pay lol.
NJ are just a bunch of entitled brats/bull!es. NJ is really changing KPOP industry. Now, they can become the example on how the bull!es can be Kpop idols too.
Yup. This lol.
I hope their company takes full legal action, against them and their parents. I question how the parents in this situation are supporting their delusions and are publicly admitting to supporting these decisions.
Exactly. It's going to b business as usual for Ador. With no court ruling in effect, Ador will continue to plan n implement activities for NJs.
Girls, if u don't turn up, expect legal notices. If Ador incurrs financial penalties for your no shows, rest assured these will b included in the legal paperwork.
NJs, if u wanna work Ador says thank you for the income. If u don't wanna work lawyers will b sending you love letters lol.
One thing I've learnt about HYBE is that they give you the "rope" and make you believe you have the upper hand while they get their ducks in a row and by the time they are done you have wrapped that rope so much around yourself you have no way out. It's quite sad to see these young girls throw away their careers like this cause if anything they could have just used HYBE as their stepping stone and than branched out when their contract ended with an established career and brand image, but now they are showing everyone else that they are a problem to work with which could come back and bite them in the azz when it comes to endorsements and brand deals
if NJ want out they should not show up at work ADOR can't force them Physically to get out of the door and do appearances or dance or practice
your next video will be hilarious given the dispatch article about MHJ own cookie deal hehe. omg that was crazy
Another great analysis. Thank you for your insight and time. Really look forward to hearing your posts.
Even if we say that they succeeded leaving ADOR/HYBE, what will happen to their career? Given that this is a big company, I can’t imagine what will happen to them. I guess, it is smart to just keep quiet and wait for the contracts to end just like what happened to other kpop groups. This will not benefit them in the long run.
The only reason they're splitting from ador now is because going against HYBE didn't worked they fired the ceo of Ador ,so now they're trying to split from Ador because they didn't fight against Hybe... for their former CEO
Forget the GEDs. Miss Min thinks she’s teaching a master class of The Art of The Steal!!
I’m tossing my bag of popcorn for a big box of animal cookies. The K-Pop scene is about to become a zoo!!!! Amazing times we live.
That's why I called them stupid hens: they want to destroy the investment system in k-pop, thanks to which even poor but talented young people are able to become stars.
These girls are ludicrous and a disgrace to any industry, but especially K-pop. They are rookies, and would they have been this popular without Hybe? I think not - they are a dime a dozen. Debut in 2022 then spend an entire year on this BS? And SERIOUSLY - we are terminating our contract, but we will fly out tomorrow for our schedule and of course advertisements- anything to continue to make money and be in the spotlight. I really hope that Hybe throws their weight, and buries them for the remainder of their contract. Isn't it breach to hold bi-weekly whine fests publicly? I think all activities should be stopped for all of our sanity and maybe they can get therapy and self reflect.
Even when I don't like these girls (I was a bunnie before), I feel genuinely worried that MHJ will become some kind of PIMP and make those girls do atrocities for their own gain.
In the same way, those parents are as guilty as that witch.
Jesus Christ, I hope they lose everything they worked for & that no one in their right minds invest in them in the future. I’m not saying Hybe is innocent either but omg NJ really are some whiny ass brats 😒
i feel the same way for those OldJeans girls
@iamjerrytv_0802 They’re going to keep going downhill from here. If they can do this to their own company and bully their other label mates, other companies should avoid them at all costs. The fact NJ DEMANDS respect but is so disrespectful to the hands that fed them, is what gets me 👀
I don't understand how they do not understand that if you get suspended or you officially leave the school you won't be able to that school's field trip the next day like huh the company is not family or parents that you go around throwing ur tantrum to agree with ur demands
Thanks for analysis. I now see the brilliantly evil plan by the Witch and her cohorts. Disgusted. The serious consequence could be the destruction of the kpop industry alas. This plan was clearly made by high levels of knowledge and people. This could be a turning force for Korea. Let's pray for good judges
She is not a witch, she has no power at all. She is just a basic narcississt.
GOOD RIDDANCE.. ALTHOUGH ILLIT ALREADY KILLED THE GENRE!
Law said no.
The management association of Korea said no.
Why is it that ever since this issue started, fans of other groups are more worried about the future of the NewJeans girls than the girls themselves, their parents, or the Bunnies? It's ridiculous. It's so irresponsible to just incite the issue and not have to take responsibility. From the outside, it seems like HIBE and ADOR, who are suffering huge losses, are more concerned about the future of NewJeans.
Acting dumb is part of this whole scheme. 😂
MINJI, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? 😅
to tell you guys honestly. There's no HYBE and ADORE VS MHJ AND NJ, There's just how MHJ would gain and how NJ members would loose everything including those girls dreams. Those girls will gonna have a hard time when they'll gonna face reality. Right now they thought MHJ will Protect them but once all of this is over they'll gonna face a harsh reality.
One last thought
By engaging in activities arranged as part of their contract with ador they are actually saying the contract still exists so ador can take it as nj accepted the terms of the contract as "modified by ador unilaterally"
The parties will know the contract ended when nj doesn't fulfill their obligations or ador doesnt pay nj
Because if ni said the contracted is terminated ador has no obligations to nj and technically nj has no recourse arguably they are volunteering right now
The real problem is we don’t know what it says in the NJs contract. Ador can’t publish it without being in breach. If one of the investors that has dropped out or been dropped by MHJ has a copy, I wish they would leak it.
Así que usan los recursos de la compañía, el presupuesto y los contratos que les consiguió la empresa, más el nombre y las canciones, que son de la empresa. 😂😂😂 Pero si renunciaron 😂😂😂😂 ésto no es renunciar 😂😂😂😂
Maybe Ador should start a running tab for using Ador resources…🤣
@harrietteanzai2577 Seguramente están anotado todo, para después tener evidencia de sobra.
With the latest news, I can't wait for your latest take on things...
the "Minji do you understand" took me out 🤣
If ADOR stays open, I think the next group will be amazing. It would be a perfect Karmic event for the ones who used underhanded methods to steal it. Hybe is a young company. They will learn and grow from this. It was built by BTS, Bighit and BSH. With that foundation, they will bounce back even better. They are not perfect, but they were already progressively ahead of the other labels. We don’t know what happens behind the scenes but I trust BTS and they could have left , but didn’t. Even if the courts side with NJ, ADOR and Hybe can rise above it. Even if MHJ evades jail, they will come out on top. All the groups are doing well in spite of this.
"10 AM rigatoni" had me falling OUT. You are hyserical.
Impossible that quitting an artist exclusive contract is more easy than quitting a job contract (giving 1 month notice), without penalties. Lmao.
“Bunny-uncled” 😂
Why are Newjeans so high-profile if they don't want to pay a penalty?
I was out for my birthday on Saturday, and "Hype Boy" came on. I asked them to change it. I'm so sick of New Jeans 🙄
Asked who?.imaginary people?
Cause you butthurt 😂
You cant force an establishment to change the song just because you don't like it.
U were out on your B-day? congrats... Hybe boy came on?... ok. Believe me, Koreans are sick of them too.
Wish the KOREANS stop eating their dogs
Stockholm Mama 😂😂😂😂 Sean! I can't even
Wasnt the first TH-cam livestream a material breach of contract?
I believe in BTS and follow them. BTS believe and trust in BSH and they support BigHit and HYBE. I hate how this girls have benefited from BTS blood sweat and tears. They are so rude and disrespectful to BSH and HYBE. I hope that HYBE lawyers through the books at them. They are the bullies. Everything they have accused HYBE of is what they themselves are guilty of. The audacity of it!!
@ 😂😂😂I’m Army OT7. Every day. All day!