Edward VIII & Wallis Simpson
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King Edward VIII gave up the throne to marry the woman he loved, Wallis Simpson. Their relationship has long been lauded as a royal fairytale. But there was a lot more going on. Wallis never really liked Edward but became trapped by her own ambition. And Edward, desperate to find any mode of escaping the insurmountable pressure of his birth rite, became obsessed with the woman who dominated him. And they were both Nazi sympathizers. The abdication of a King who wasn’t allowed by the church to marry a divorced woman was not nearly that simple. And the crisis that almost ended the British monarchy likely saved it in the end...
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I was just browsing this topic and found out this is your video, nice!
So, Ed bad, George good. Very nuanced n balanced...
@@hadilol p
Weren't the people aware, that prior to the sudden, "Oh scheisse" name swap to Windsor, that their name had been Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, when Vicky married Al ?
Hell, they'd should have also be aware that Krauts had been sitting throne since Geo I in 1714
If I were you, I'd look up the stitch up between Stanley Baldwin, Cosmo Lang and george himself, who disliked his brother immensly for constantly joking about his stutter
Although I'm not against Edward's marriage with Wallis, I think it is a good thing that he got removed from the throne as they were Nazi sympathizers.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree! I could only imagine what would’ve happened if the UK was taken over by Germany...
@@anneofdenmarkqueenofenglan8402 that was never going to happen, it could've been an Anglo-Germanic alliance against the Soviet Union, strangling communism in the crib, saving a lot of lives. Imagine the combined Fury of the Royal Navy, Kriegsmarine, Regia Marina and Imperial Japanese Navy
@@markbenjamin1703 it would only create a new power vacuum that would be filled by a fourth party, endorsed by and with support from those hypothetical allied forces until it grows too big and becomes the new opposing force against the alliance.
@@markbenjamin1703 I don’t know if it would have saved lives in numbers. Some who died may have lived but a lot who lived probably would have died. As Edward was openly anti semitic and had nothing against the extermination of the Jewish population, many more would have died in the concentration camps and more land would have been occupied by nazi Germany. Also if the English would have supported the Japanese in the war it would have been the and of east Asia as we know it. As Korea, the Philippines and Indonesia where basically slave colonies occupied by Japan they would probably have stayed that way for a long time. Also with England having territories in the area at the time, if they would have allied with the Japanese and perhaps given them Hong Kong and Singapore (then British territories) the Japanese would have gotten a stable strong hold and advanced in to China, Tebet and Mongolia and committed more war atrocities against the population (just look up the Nanjing massacre if you want examples).
And remember that the US was not the strongest nation at the time, Britten was. It was WW2 that made American the military super power it is today by the help of the European alias. So if the UK and the commonwealth would have allied with Germany and Japan, millions more would have died, most of Europe would be speaking german, the jewish religion would almost if not completely be whipped out, most East Asian countries would speak japanese, most of the other asian countries culture would be destroyed like palaces, monuments and heritage. Which means no great wall, no forbidden city (which there where plans from the Japanese to destroy), no Angkor wat, no thousand year old Joseon palaces. All culture and history that was not Japanese would be gone, as was the plan if they weren’t stopped.
Yes we probably wouldn’t have had Starlins crazy ass which would have been great but communism was already an idea in motion at that time, almost a century old so taking down Russia wouldn’t have done much in abolishing communism as a political concept.
So yes we got a lot of bad but not near as much bad as if the Nazis had gotten their way.
" divorce was not allowed by the church of England". My, aren't we built on the foundations of irony.
The Royal family’s problems with relationships and marriage is basically because of the church and their stupid rules.
Princess Margaret couldn’t marry one guy cause he was divorced
Princess Diana and Prince Charles was basically an arranged marriage because Camilla was *gasp* not a virgin. But that doesn’t excuse how cold he was toward Diana and all the terrible things he put her through.
@@brettlarch8050 Camilla was a married woman when Charles was ready to get married. She wasn't divorced, and she didn't want a divorce at that time.
@@edennis8578
They had a secret affair while he was married to Diana.
Yeah, like WTF C of E?? They were FOUNDED on the divorce of a king!
@@EH23831 to be honest even during Henry VIII's time he didn't just allow everyone to get divorced. only _men_ could file for divorce and only _rich men_ especially -- and of course, because Henry made himself the head of the church (the SUPREME head, i should say), only _he_ could okay the divorces. this isn't even to start on how Henry flip-flopped a bunch on Catholic and Protestant values/rituals (one day he's all for Mass and then he's not, and so on). so i'm not SUPER surprised that the Church of England opposed divorce up until recently -- but it's still hugely ironic and i was definitely quite confused at first considering it's origins.
I always laugh when Edward and Wallis are held up as this great romance. He was needy due to a childhood deprived of parental affection due to cold, dysfunctional parents, and she just wanted the luxury of being a king's mistress. He started to believe he was in love with her to the point of obsession, but she honestly wasn't that into him. She bawled on a couch in France during his speech about the abdication because she was completely locked into it now. There's no leaving a man who gave up a throne for you. But she definitely cheated on him. I'm not even talking about the Ribbentrop rumors--it was way later on.
They're a cautionary tale, not a romantic one.
Obsession does not equal romance!
Tyvm🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
Yup
Yup
Yup
Personal acquaintances say edward bored Wallis to death and even got on her nerves.
They aren't one of the greatest romances of all time. They're one of greatest cautionary tales of codependency of all time.
True!!!!😏🇬🇧
*My OnLy Co-Dependent is My once Abandoned to the streets, BLack Cat!!!!*
Ummm He kinda reminds me of Chuck!!!!! N Camilla🤔
Like Hazmat and MeGain?
@@rml9121 Harry and Meghan are in love and very happy. Harry decided to leave England so that his wife and children wouldn't be harassed like his mother Diana was. I support them 100%. And I don't like it when people say untrue things about them.
This sounds like an very toxic and disturbing relationship. They both had some serious issues and it’s better they never ruled as king and queen. That would have been a total nightmare for the entire family and the country at large.
Sounds so similar to what’s going on right now. Luckily it’s the spare….
Especially the part where he chased her like a little child…..(?!?)
The alternate reality in the books and show The Man In The High Castle, where the Nazis won instead, must have been the same reality those two ruled as king in queen.
@@Valentina-Steinway Sounds more like Charles and Camilla. After all Charles was close to his nazi sympathizer uncle and likely shared some similar views to get along so well with him unlike the rest of the royal family. It would be awful to have someone like that be king. After all you never hear of people saying the queen should pass on the role to Charles. We all know he is literally rubbish.
@@aliciaanguiano3860 do you think he would make a bad king?
@@Valentina-Steinway Just like his uncle, he would certainly make a bad king. It takes a certain type of person to be king/queen like strong character, duty to country before self etc. Just look at the past 2 rulers to see qualities that make a good ruler. Apart from being next in line, he has none of the qualities that would make him a good king.
Moral of the story: the right brother became king. The more I hear of George VI the more highly I think of him. The fact that he paid out of pocket for his brother and Wallis to live their extravagant lifestyle is way nicer than I would’ve been. I wouldn’t have kept sending him money and would’ve eventually said get a job bro.
They probably guilted him ...the way harry guilted big daddy charles to get what he wantéd...the best thing for charles is to put harry into a group home setting or have a glorified handler for harry ,put him on an allowance because hes incapable of ever having a job ....that way he will be able to be taken care of....because the royal family had been cleaning up his messes for years ....so they know what hes like after they have enabled harry all his life ...the poor little boy who lost his mommy ...and harry exploiting it for all its worth ....so hes nothing more than an angry entitled sot ..
@@maryleung1425 What? how does harry come into this?
@@800faliha same family, same behavior, the parallels have been drawn by more than one historian and family friend.
@@s.v.2796 no
...George 6 was a good king and steadily guided England through the war, he was wise in basically befriending Churchill and listening to his advice, he was a good man and he died to young, say what you want about Churchill but he Hitler pegged as a mad man before the rest of the world did, George 6 and Churchill were a good team, and of course, he gave us Elizabeth 2, she has been an excellent queen, I hope she outlives Charles, he is much like Edward....as you folks say...long live the queen....
I appreciate how Lindsay Holliday keeps it real about the history she discusses. Wallace and Edward's relationship is so often portrayed as some passionate love story🤮
There are many videos on TH-cam that explain exactly how rough it was. He died alone because Wallis didn’t want to be bothered. Later on in life she regretted treating him so badly.
Its mainly cause their story is kinda similar to Harry & Megan so people draw both as similar fairy tale story in which a guy abandoned the throne of the most powerful empire for "true love"
It's a lot darker than that . I thought it was romantic when I was younger but when I watched a Documentary about them I saw there was a lot more to it. He wanted Wallis more than she wanted him. She loved the partying and the gifts and the Social climbing but not him.
His Abdication had a lot more Ramifications than Harry and Meghan, yes there are similarities with Harry being obsessed with Meghan and that she's a Divorced American. Whilst his Brother was a better King, he was taken too soon due to the Burden of Kingship thrust on him when all he wanted was the life of a Countryman with his Family for a good few years.
@@lalitthapa101 I don't find their story similar at all. Edward potentially could have caused the end of the monarchy with his decisions while Harry just choose to marry a commoner and leave the royal family. All that aside Edward and Wallis's relationship was definitely unhealthy and almost abusive. In the end it's a story of a man who refused to grow up and a woman who just wanted to have fun and be admired at parties.
I find it very interesting that the Nazi sympathizer aspect of the romance was left out of popular accounts of the abdication. Even after the file that showed evidence of the Nazi plan to install Edward as a puppet king was made public, every time I heard about him and Wallis, it made them seem like perfect, star-crossed lovers.
Same, I'm surprised I never learnt about this
It’s actually well known. I’ve watched over 20 documentaries on these two and surprisingly a majority of them mentions it. It’s even in that Netflix show the crown although it’s not historically accurate. Although there was one documentary which chose to defend him and say he wasn’t a nazis sympathizer but then again it was made and featured members of the current British royal family. So they could be trying to save their own ass
Seriously, I always thought they actually were in love. Awkward
Yes, thank you! Didn't know they were Nazi sympathisers until now
Never heard about the Nazi stuff until I watched The Crown
“A little family feud known as WWI” thats exactly what my high school history teacher summed it up as. Cousins fighting using millions of ppl as tools
To be fair, the political and trade tensions between the countries were enough to have seen them go to war even if they'd both been republics. The UK had grown too powerful and its global dominance at sea too overwhelming for any other European power to flourish as it had; something had to give.
@@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co ur username XD priceless
Edward and Wallis were both extremely selfish people. That, along with Edward’s poor life-choices and Nazi sympathies, would have made him a terrible monarch had he not abdicated. Good thing he did!
He could've saved the British Empire, and destroyed Communism. We were this close greatness
Which one of those royal blood leeches are NOT extremely selfish? This present queen, the late duke, prince of wales, the little children of harry and william, they are ALL selfish and self promoting. No exceptions....
Just like Harry and meghan
@@brucemarsico6 Are they selfish or do you just hate the Monarchy and just using the term to make you hate them?
@@thephoenixxm4160 ? Let's see....if I 'hated' the british monarchy would i need a term to re-enforce my hatred for them? Of course, they are selfish. Why wouldn't they be? The have the best of everything and EXPECT more of the best of everything....wouldn't you say that's being 'selfish'? They enjoys the golden fruits of life at your expense......
Wallace is not to blame for Edward abdicating. She was just the excuse that he was looking for to abdicate.
Exactly!
Sounds familiar. Think someone else took made that excuse lately.
@@kccox8516 I know.
@@ally_bally6728 if you’re talking about Harry get a grip, because you would leave too after what they did to his wife and said about his then unborn child.
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A tale of two brothers that never wanted to be king. One runs away from his responsibilities and is today considered an embarrassment and cautionary tale. The other, despite being fearful of the burdens of his position, steps up to take on the responsibilities and becomes hailed as one of the greatest kings his country ever had.
Most historians would not rate George VI that highly. He was a diffident, nervous man buttressed by his wife, whose ability to rally British resistance made Hitler call her the most dangerous woman in Europe.
George smoked and worried himself to death. I'd rate him beta-plus- a constitutionalist, 'modern' sovereign who respected the new 20C democratic norms and did not meddle in politics or military strategy. Probably the optimal head of state for a country that needed unity in 1940-45 more than at most time; an inoffensive symbolic figure.
True but a decent man who stepped up when needed and felt totally ill equipped for the role. I think that is why he is admired… because of those limitations but he did his duty and so did his daughter-our wonderful Queen Elizabeth.
That man was traumatized by his cold parents, being nervous doesn't means he wasn't a good king, he indeed was, no one gives a fx¢k what those so called historian say, British people adore him, he SUFFERED with his people....@@esmeephillips5888
@@esmeephillips5888oh please he was admired because he was ready to suffer with his people, he had a great sense of duty, which his daughter Queen Elizabeth II had......
@@Sassyvibes06 A rare intervention which George made in 1945 was to query Attlee's choice of Hugh Dalton as foreign secretary and Ernest Bevin as chancellor of the exchequer. The King suggested they change places. Clem, a great respecter of a constitutional monarch's right to encourage and warn, accepted his advice. Dalton, whom George thought too erratic and voluble for nuclear diplomacy, had to resign from No. 11 after blurting out Budget secrets. Bevin, by general consent, became one of the greatest foreign secretaries.
Dang, 4 years is quite a significant amount of time to spend at Oxford without coming away with some type of degree
Not if you take it easy and have a good time. 😁
4 years is a basic degree though...
@@arcadia4558 bachelors degrees in the uk are 3 years
@@kans01a76 lucky. In the US, they waste our time with extra classes that we don’t need for our degree. 😑
@@lila2986 Is that a joke? Edward was destined from birth to be king; it had everything to do with station and nothing to do with money. If he had been dirt poor, it wouldn't have changed his position in the order of succession. What does the King of England need with a diploma? He would be king whether he had one or not.
She just had to have him, lured him away from another woman, then she was stuck with him when he gave up the throne. That’s karma for you baby
Meghan will have the same problem!
@@irwinrussell1356 nope.
@@msgirly6827 yep
@@irwinrussell1356 nopeee
Yippee 🥳
You forgot to mention how, when Edward was on his death bed, Wallis never even bothered to spend time with him despite him constantly calling out for her. When he was dying he saw her twice: the first night he was bed bound (three weeks before he died), and the night he died. Not how a woman who truly loves her husband would act. She jealously insulted George VI's wife, Queen Elizabeth (both of whom were busy supporting the British people and raising the country's morale during the war) by making fun of her body, and criticising how much she seemed to enjoy being queen (even though Elizabeth, like George VI, never wanted to become the monarch in the first place, but carried out her duties of supporting her husband and country anyway). A truly nasty, selfish woman. Nothing great or romantic about their "love" story at all (if it can even be called a love story). She shouldn't have been given the respect, dignity, or honour of being financially supported by Queen Elizabeth II and buried on royal ground, or of the Queen Mother attending her funeral. The royal family showed both David and Wallis more mercy than they deserved.
Yes you are so right
I can see …history repeats 😒😒
I'd love to know how you know this...you were obviously n the bedroom with the when he died.
@@jolang9169 I know your ass ain’t talking about Meghan and Harry.
Just another upper class American
Social climber. They are more
Snobby about their standing than
Most english aristocrats.
When the Royal Family becomes a Latin American afternoon soap opera
I want her to talk about the last empress consort of Iran Farah Pahlavi
Always has been
Tele novella si 😂
They kinda always have been
😂😂 perfect Mexican telenovela , Televisa is quackinggggg
Yes!! I never bought into the “great love story”. He didn’t want the responsibility of being King and Wallis was an opportunist. They basically used each other.
Kind of like Meghan and Harry Markel...
@@sheriburke8276..Not really. There’s no real chance Harry would ever be King, he’s too far down the royal line of succession. I think Harry just didn’t like the constraints of being in the Royal family and just wants to live his own life as he pleases.
They are mentioned by Scotty in his book Full Service.
@@sheriburke8276 hmm kind of NOT like the lovely Meghan Markle and Prince Harry grow up and get over yourselves racist jealous losers UGH 😑🤦♀️
*Thank GOD, for WaLLis, for she Saved CiviLization from, Edward 8 !!!*
*I SEE it as PoSSiBLe that HitLer couLd have WON the War with Edward8 on the Thrown!!!*
Patty-I never saw them as star crossed lovers. I could never understand the fairy tale aspect of their relationship. I didn't think they were all that impressive as an attractive couple. I think his brother did a much better job than he could've ever done. Thank you, Lindsey.
Wallis Simpson description was similar to what was said of Anne Boleyn, neither was considered beautiful or "pretty" but had a way about them, "the it factor" and they both achieved the lives they thought they wanted, unfortunately they both ended up regretting it.
I’ve heard that said about Camilla. She isn’t “pretty” but she drew men to her like butterflies to a flame.
Nice insight....
@@jenswenson5525 except camila is just straight up “ugly”.. wallis simpson wasn’t particularly pretty but she had such amazing taste in fashion and style that everyone in paris fawned over her too. and anne boleyn was supposedly more beautiful too and also had again great style. camilla was never fashionable she just had a attitude that charles and other men liked
@@louisaugustexvi4515 it was said that Camilla taught the boys in Sussex a thing or two, so we know what her appeal was. Lol!!
@@queenboudicca31 thank you 👑
My grandfather was the main Parisian architect and he was commissioned to renovate their Paris flat. My mother remembers meeting them, a little group of pugs rushing around, Wallis, thin as a rail and snapping at Edward in front of other people, Edward with watery eyes looking so terribly sad.
So traurig, was Christina Burton schreibt.
Wie muss er sich gefühlt haben.Ich frage mich ob er seine Entscheidung bereut hat.
Thank you for sharing this 🙏🏻
I believe in the end,he knew he had made a terrible mistake!!!😏🇬🇧
Really 🧐
I think Harry will end up in the same position.
I did not know the queen allowed them to be buried together. Shows what a honourable and kind person she truly was.
The fact that she and her father suffered a lot of consequences from that irresponsible uncle made them faithful to their duties really shows what a beautiful soul she and her father had. It is such a great example for future generations.
@@EAlyahyaUnlike the Queen Mother!
She was the best and we miss her!
Wallace was an awful woman. The way she was hanging out the window laughing at the Kings funeral is the perfect example of her lack of class. She liked the attention and money that came with being David’s mistress but bit off more than she could chew with him. Her husband didn’t want her back and she had to lie in the bed she had made.
Bed that David made
@@noorbohamad5796 Wallace became Edward’s mistress to extort cash from him, and that led to her husband leaving her and her having no choice but to stay with Edward. She made her own bed.
@@noorbohamad5796 I really think she took advantage of him.
Sort of like old horse face, Camilla.
Kathy
It's a good thing he never became king.
Kathy
Yes, and the very rolls royce that Wallis rode in during Edwards funny was the exact same car that H & MM rode in on their very last engagement as "working royals".
"Mommy I don't want to eat my vegetables". So it seems like the Prince of Wales has some interesting fetishes...
I was thinking the same thing....
I thought so
Understandable considering he lacked of mother's care since childhood
Basically if we compared it to BDSM, he’d be a sub.
Didn’t expect otherwise from a Prince of Wales. Weird guys, these Princes of Wales
I'm watching this recently after Queen Elizabeth has died. And you were exactly right ! She ruled up to the very end.
Now, I have an even greater appreciation for her and her place in history❤️
She devoted her life to the service of her duties and she has made the monarchy stronger than ever I wonder what King Charles III will be like but I cannot abide Camilla it could have all been avoided had Charles not been so selfish and kept up his affair with her it’s just not right I don’t care about the divorce status of them both but it’s the selfish affair that really irks me and I’m sure many more too it’s hard to think that the anthem is now God Save the King all my life and my mother’s life it was God Save the Queen. I met her at aged 5 when she visited our Islands for her Jubilee in 1977
She also mentioned the “deep anxiety and concern” which her father “felt throughout the enemy occupation of the Channel Islands and how he rejoiced at the liberation” the Channel Islands were the only part of British soil that the Germans had occupied and we are also mentioned in Churchill’s speech about the end of the war
I heard she wrote that she wasn't that sure she wanted to marry Edward, but she was 40 at the time and needed to follow her best options. Born neither beautiful nor rich, she was scrappy if nothing else. She was a survivor.
Wasn't she already married though? Maybe he was a better option, but it wasn't like he was her only option. Seems weird to divorce your husband and marry someone else if you're not even that interested in him in the first place.
Her husband was having an affair and they were divorcing, so at that point her best options was to marry the king.
@@lrose1310 interested in the money. She wanted HRH, but she never got it.
@@lrose1310 z
Being a survivor doesn't mean Wallace had a shred of integrity and she certainly wasn't the least bit self-sacrificing. She was self-centered and condescending to the end. She was an opportunistic snooty social climber. Just like another current previously divorced woman I could name who wormed her way into the life of a playboy prince and latched on like a remora. Thank goodness MM only snagged the spare and not the heir.
He’s such a child… and their relationship is so toxic. I thought they were like the fairytale relationship because he loved her more than the throne but that’s not all that there is and its so much worse. Wow.
Edward's abdication speech reveals what a loser he really was. He sounds like a bratty child trying to create a sob story for public empathy he doesn't deserve.
Sounds a bit like Harry and MeGain
@@slidenapps it doesnt. It only does to a certain type of people
Duh
@@thunderbird1921 at least he was responsible enough to know , he didn’t want to be king. Instead of living a lie.
I wish more people knew this story. It's just dreadful how people have romanticised this couple, they where despicable.
Imagine being called “the boy” at 41 years old.. no wonder he was called Peter Pan.
#DeltaDawn came to mind
Consequently, when he came to the parting of the ways, he stood there tragically and pitifully alone. It was the isolation of his own making. For some hereditary or physiological reason, his normal mental development stopped dead when he reached adolescence.
In the body, he might have been a sculptor's model; but his mental, moral and aesthetic development, broadly speaking, remained that of a boy of 17.
- Sir Alan 'Tommy' Lascelles
I was speechless when I read his journal
The little man. Quite the nickname. Little boy is more like it. FYI, several things mentioned were rumors, not fact.
That's me baby
It was probably true what the crazy
Guy said. That MI5 turned a blind eye
To the attempt to kill him.
Palace aids use to say it would be
Better he broke his neck playing
Polo.
George and Mary: What should we name our son?
Royal fam :Edward ,Albert ,Christian George ,Andrew ,Patrick, David
George and Mary: Good choice
What a good English-German-Danish-English-Scottish-Irish-Welsh name.
@@eretria-amorosa 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@@eretria-amorosa Ofc🤣
I think what they were going for is that his name was Edward Albert Christian and then George Andrew Patrick David was added on for the patron saints of the 4 countries of Great Britain.
They probably thought it was sweet and romantic for the name of the future king. A name and a king to bring all 4 nations together.
Little did they know, eh?
@@Annie_Annie__ of course, good spotting.
Elizabeth kept her promise to serve until her dying breath and I don't think we will ever see her like again.
yeah 😢
Edward decided long before meeting Wallace that he did not want to be king. That's not love it's a way out.
"He became a mentor to Prince Charles, and they had *a lot* in common"
...yikes.
That would explain Harry's casual Nazi jokes in his youth (which I don't doubt he's grown out of)
Both bit egocentric, loving one woman and hearing they can't have her... yeah. They had a lot in common. But I doubt it was political views.
Total mistake here. Dickie Mountbatten/The Earl of Burma was Charles’ mentor FYI.
@@wynonnamareeuy Thank goodness someone knows the facts!
@@wynonnamareeuy still...yikes. watch yer bum, charles
It shocked me to learn of his Nazi sympathies! Reading this shortly after the death of Queen Elizabeth I’m so glad he abdicated. What a different world this would have been had he not.
Although I’m an American I love your series about all the intrigue and and intermarriage of the royals of history Thanks
i’m singaporean so i get what you mean 😂 european history is just so fascinating
Most documentaries I've seen say Charles kept in touch because he felt sorry for the Duke. His actual mentor was Lord Mountbatten.
Exactly. These people don't care all that much for true accuracy. Like a 7th grader research paper.
Yeah, even The crown says so!
@@SarahLibogomalove this fact is correct but please don't believe everything you see on the crown
It's funny how every little "family feud" is so deadly...
Well, it's sad that all that i breeding made all of them cousins
So true.
I honestly think he wanted to abdicate all along, and made it seem like it was for her, so she'd never, ever be able to leave him.
You can't exactly dump a man who literally gave up a country for you.
There’s another documentary about some letters that Wallis wrote. It’s quite good- backs this one up. I sounds like Wallis’ great love was Mr. Simpson; she really messed up when she started the affair with David. She thought she was smart enough to carry it off and found out differently. She ended up with a man she didn’t love.
It's a really good documentary, I recommend it to everyone who sees this!
what's the title?
Edward threatened with suicide. Simpson had another woman by that time.
This relationship can be summed up as he loved her, she loved his money..
I don't think money was really the most prominent component, she liked the attention and perceived distinction of a prince and later king being smitten with her. It was never meant to be more than superficial flirtation, I've watched a documentary in which they read from her letters to her ex husband. She realized she loved him and suddenly was stuck with Edward, she thought she couldn't get out of it anymore after he decided to abdicate for her.
I saw that Documentary. I had got the impression before that that she didn't really Love Edward and things were moving too fast and she was trapped. They were married for 36 years. He was such a lost Soul and a Friend told her that she now had to keep him amused. It must have been Soul destroying knowing what he had given up in exchange for a bland existence lurching from one party to another .
@@c.w.8200 yea even more trapped if he would threaten to off himself if she left him. But the dude was racist so best he did not end up king.
@@c.w.8200 thanks for the information,I didn't know that
@@junecooper4688 her letters to her ex husband doesn’t tell anything at all. I’ve read the book too. The author Anne Sebba doesn’t include anyone of all the letters that Wallis wrote to Edward VIII and later the Duke of Windsor, her husband. Letters where she writes that she misses him, that she loves him. So just please, never listen to nasty rumors and evil gossip that have surrounded this couple and are continue to do so. No Wallis didn’t want to marry Edward because that would mean that he would lose the crown and the throne. She loved him so much so she rather wanted to give him up, that is the truth. Just read the letters between Wallis and Edward and see for yourself
This is the best bio of the once king & his wife's story I have heard. It brings all the pertinent info together in an accurate timeline, no stone unturned.
It seems strange that the church of England should refuse Edward as it was set up originally to allow Henry's six wives.
@Andi Ronaldo Marbun 🙄 get over it. They’re married and he chose to leave. It’s rlly not that deep. Also, Henry’s ex wives (some of them) were also still alive
Wife 1. Marriage annulled. Wife 2. Executed. Wife 3. Died after childbirth. Wife 4. Marriage annulled. Wife 5. Executed. Wife 6. Outlived him.
He didn't divorce all of them. Get your facts straight.
@@SymphonyBrahms - Seriously? Except for 2 (well, 3 really, as Marriage # 4 was correctly annulled) it's ;technicality / semantics. And in comparison, Charles' situation was so much worse. It's all about what they can get away with. / what will be tolerated...
Yes, 8 wives. BUT they were not all "wives" at the same time
@@SymphonyBrahms But if he didn't annull his marriage with Catherine of Aragon, he wouldn't have married the others
This was a wild ride. 🤣 “Wallis was heartbroken” to learn that her husband was having an affair…. As she was sleeping with Edward. I don’t care how much money or jewels someone is throwing at me, I’m not interested in anyone but my husband. Crazy how that works. 😂
Who was he having an affair with?
@@racheldemain1940 - I don’t remember her name, but it’s in the video.
@@racheldemain1940 wallis had affair with David (kind edward 8)....
@@subhadrahembram6515 I think she meant Wallis's ex hubby from before she married edward viii
Well, it wasn’t that she upset about him having an affair, because she sent the girl to “satisfy his needs” in her place. She just didn’t expect those two to fall in love. Which makes sense, her husband sent her to Edward to satisfy his needs and extort wealth from him, but Wallis never fell in love. So she’d expect her husband to feel the same (that is, use people but never love them). It just didn’t work like that.
I think it was very generous of Queen Elizabeth to continue to support Wallis after Edward’s death and to allow her to be buried in the royal vault.
Edward must have missed that memo when his dad changed themselves to house of Windsor 🤣
And I lost my soul when she called the family feud/WW1 as a little war
That abdication was actually a BLESSING!
you satans love to villify people you do not like especially when the story is told from the angle you wanted sorry for you all
Lindsay's videos literally get me through High School history. Thank you!!
YES omg I have been waiting for this! He was so different to his brother - to think they were related!
@@aleasyah3032 Yeah, me too
That’s brotherhood for ya
Ur great great great grandson
I've noticed that siblings are often as opposite as they can possibly be. I think that it's unconsciously on purpose, to separate ourselves from each other, so people won't confuse us as much.
Kinda like Prince William and the other son of Diana…..
Queen Elizabeth II is an absolute class act. After everything Edward/David did to the family, she was able to forgive him, and further she was able to forgive Wallis. Consider that mold broken.
Her son was a pedo with Epstein
Calm down, she must've felt bad for them, two fools who screwed up their lives together, and were now dying alone and disgraced.
QEII is thankful for Wallis, or she wouldn't have been Queen!
@@vk117 I'm not sure Elizabeth was as shallow as that. And being a Monarch for seven decades is daunting for any sane person.
I think you've watched too much of the fictional but brilliant Crown series
I can't imagine 2 people who deserved each other more. I had suspected most of this...having read between the lines before, and having met similar people...but this was pretty blunt. Wallace managed to both ruin her life and do the Royal family...and England, the most enormous favor. Both, which we now know, to be true...Pretending to love someone for advantages is pretty low...and apparently karma IS a b...ch.
Now Harry and Megan are behaving the same way.
The doctor: “your royal highness, what are you going to name your baby?”
George V: “yes”
Normie
How could David be "impotent" if he regularly kept mistresses, who his family feared he would impregnate, throughout his ENTIRE adult life?
He couldn't have kids because he caught a sickness that left him infertile
Well, there's impotent & sterile. You can be sterile & not be impotent, but being impotent *generally* means you're *also* sterile.
TBH I don't think David was either one of those; families believed what they wanted to believe about their 'black sheep'; Caroline of Ansbach *desperately* believed her son Frederick Lewis was impotent, despite all evidence to the contrary, b/c she hated him *that* much.
Louis, duke of Orléans believed his son (the confusingly-named Louis-Philippe I, duke of Orléans) believed his son was incapable of fathering children, & refused to acknowledge any of his grandchildren as his own blood, despite the fact said grandchildren bore a pretty good family resemblance to their father.
IMO 18th, 19th, & 20th Royals were pretty often stupid ppl. so take what they have to say about themselves w/ a grain of salt.
You'll always have friends when you're at the top of society, regardless of what you do in the bedroom.
Edward wasn't the infertile one, condoms were available for the wealthy in that era (it's why he didn't have bastards). Wallis however was sterile.
Wallis was barren.
This was THE most informative video on the subject. I've gotten bits and pieces from various places... But this shared so much. Well done!
I always thought that the love story of Edward VIII and Wallis was a romantic one, but now I see what it truly was and why the British Royal family dislike them so much. Thank you!
Wallis in a way saved the world just by existing in his life! Thanks for the video, quite enlightening!
Yeah, else today the history would have been different with no monarchy
😂😂😂
I feel like George VI and his wife had a great love story.
I wish people talked about it more
Wow! This is far from the passionate, fairytale Romeo & Juliet (though they sucked too) romance I've heard people made their relationship out to be! Thanks for the authenticity, Lindsey.
Romeo and Juliet would have been 13 or 14 years old. These two were in their 40's and still acting like goofy kids. Both turned out badly.
@@CallieMasters5000 precisely. Let's stop romantisizing toxic love stories.
@@obsessivefangirl5055
hmm more like let’s stop romanticizing toxic somewhat disturbing cautionary codependency stories
@@CallieMasters5000 hmm that’s actually mostly David who btw got ridiculed behind his back by the Simpsons
Yes
Wow after only sleeping with him for a few days she slapped his hand at lunch for playing with the lettuce on his plate. Clearly he needed a mommy.
Edward gravitated to married, older women because of not receiving maternal affection. It is documented how cruel and abusive his nanny was. His defective personality would have made him an unsuitable monarch. Fortunately, the world was spared his nonsense.
My pervy brain thought that was was of tossing lettuce XD then I was like…. “He’s not tossing anything, and how would that have been a thing back then?” 😂 guess it was that he needed table manners thought from his master/mistress 🙄 (sorry my comment isn’t as well thought out as yours, I’m running low on sleep).
I knew this when the narrator said only Wallis was the woman who could satisfy him sexually.. which means.. well she might be his DomMommy 🤧
“The boy will ruin himself in a year.”-George V, on his deathbed. It was less than a year.
can’t imagine how he felt having a child like edward 😅
@@share_accidental >> Oh, yeah. You’d think most people would be grist to the mill in the RF. I guess not. Edward VIII-what a simp.
The fact that Britain would have been allies to Germany has always blown my mind, we would be living in an entirely different world if be hadnt abdicated. Everything happens for a reason it seema
Britain would have been a puppet state of the nazis.
After all,why do you think Nazis wanted to put him in the thrown?
Yes, it certainly does!
You all overestimate the power that the royals had even at that time. They were just spokespeople really. The government made the decisions regarding war.
Omg can you imagine. We would have been speaking German. That's if we didnt fit in. There would be no Beyonce no. Michael Jackson. No black people in this country.
@@lalitthapa101 true. It wud have been a puppet state. And royalty would not be what it would.
She stayed with Edward to save him the ridicule and ruin her rejection would bring.
It's clear she didn't want marriage.
Edward craved recognition so the fawning they experienced in Germany appealed to him. He also hated the idea of another European war. His response to Hitler was formed by these two factors.
Finally, a true and accurate accounting of the reality of Edward and Wallis. Thank you!
Nope, blatant misinformation.
There are a lot of what ifs in history, but I think even if Edward did become king, (or married Wallis), the crown would still find its way to Elizabeth. Not only was Wallis unable to have children, but according to a biographer and testimony, Edward suffered a childhood illness that wasn't well treated, and the side effect rendered him impotent. So even if would be king, his reign still wouldn't have lasted that long, and Elizabeth would still end up being Queen. Now the outcome of WW2 would have been very different, if he did become King....
*I’m sure that if Wallis was still alive and managed to become queen, the internet would’ve made fun of her just like they did to Prince Phillip*
You mean like Camilla...
she would've totally deserved it, it's only a shame those graves are probably so well guarded as to prevent anyone from spitting on them.
@@queenboudicca31 exactly lol
@@nataliella97 That's going a bit far. They're dead, and can't do anything anymore. And I think that they've already suffered enough, they were both miserable to the end. As much as you may disapprove of them, please respect the dead.
@@ladyjanegrey1671 Why? I would spit on Hitlers grave, why not Nazi sympathizers?
I always found it fitting that during WW2 the defeat of Nazis, who were obsessed with physical perfection, came at the hands of people who were physically flawed but had extraordinary moral strength. In the USA the President was wheelchair bound, would possibly have been sent to a concentration camp with other disabled people if he had been a citizen under Nazi occupation, but his disability gave him insights into the underprivileged and he is easily my most admired POTUS. In Britain they removed their physically handsome but selfishly amoral King for a King who was a shy stutterer who did his duty even though it led to his early death (he smoked to calm his nerves leading to lung cancer). That new King refused to leave London throughout the war so he could be with his people, even when Buckingham Palace was being hit with bombs. My grandparents lived in London throughout the war, my grandmother said this single act as well as seeing him tour bomb sites and comfort people contributed greatly to their determination to never surrender and never lose hope. Edward was sent to the Bahamas to stop him undermining the war effort or (worse case scenario) being installed as monarch if Hitler invaded.
i enjoyed reading your comment, it’s really insightful!
I think George VI was a great king. Maybe not the best politician but he was a pillar of stability for his people during a terrible time. And he fathered and raised one of the greatest monarch’s England has ever had.
Love your channel! I am also super passionate about history. I am thinking of launching a similar channel to yours but focusing on music history.
The only time a monarchs abdication was a good thing...
Thank you for a balanced view, and for expressing Wallis's true feelings. She showed these in her letters etc. Thanks again!
It should've been noted that George VI was a stunningly beautiful man.
I find him more attractive than Edward
@@saanvia.7179me too 😅
This doesn’t have anything to do with Edward or Wallis, but I love that you included a family picture that had Prince John in it. On another note, I’ve been loving your channel, I’ve really enjoyed learning about different royals and famous people throughout history. 😊😃🥰
The very Rolls-Royce that Wallis rode in during Edwards funeral was the exact same car that H & MM rode in on their very last engagement as "working royals".
Edward loved living the royal life, he should have been cut off, I can't believe he called his brother and demanded more money.
Oh, I can. He reminds me of my younger brother. Only cares about himself.
@@lindaborgert589 we all have one!!!😏🇬🇧
@@lindaborgert589 hmm I’ve got younger sisters instead
@@mariaevans5793 but still having younger siblings SUCKS whether they’re younger sisters or younger brothers
agreed! he comes across as entitled…
I just want to witness Wallis Simpson and the Queen Mother beef...
She gave the Queen mum a look on a British Pathe Video unveiling Mary of Teck's plaque, the Queen mum didn't even look at her, walked straight past her!
I recently saw a tv program called Royal wives at war. It tells the story of the queens mother and Wallis Simpson, it was pretty good.
Those two were like cats and dogs.
@Frances Grey, Duchess of Suffolk Hi Mother
The Queen Mother was alleged to have been in love with Prince David. THATS why she hated Wallis Simpson.
When people learn about a king abdicating for his love: awwwe 🤗 💘
When they learn about the toxicity and Nazi sympathy: oooohh..... 😬 👀
Bertie was the better of the 2
We now have QEII, a remarkable woman
I think what Edward did wrong was mistake Wallis as actual love. He ofc had feelings for her but in many ways,he saw in wallis,rebellion & the freedom to make his own decision not giving a crap about any customs,institution etc. Both he and his younger brother faces horrible abuse from their father but whst separated him from his brother is their life partner. One cheated on him & turned it into a one sided disloyal affair while the other was a backbone for her husband and always there with him in the worst times
and look at them both now, one is considered as one of the greatest kings England has ever had whilst the others legacy is as good as nothing.
Makes you wonder how weirdly similar Edward & Charles are.
I see the reflection of Edward in Charles.
And being racist
I think, if Charles actually sympathised (-es) with Uncle David, then it would truly be his weakness of character. And it would be truly harder to respect him and love as a king in the future.
@@initialcreation true.
I do sympathize a little for Edward,I think everyone does.His life especially his younger life wasn't a pleasant one.And he overall just felt like a guy Who wanted a good support by his life to guide him where he couldn't see.
But there's only so much you can blame on the past and Edward is 100% responsible for all the things he did wrong.
I think charles did eariler empathize more with Edward since both are kind of similar in their feelings on love,the only difference was Charles never became the king and got a longer time and opportunity to improve his image.
Charles is just like his uncle.
@@naomisampson2562 in 1935 they were all racist.
Charles’s actual mentor was Lord Mountbatten. He only corresponded with David because he felt sorry for him.
i feel bad for finding this funny
I'm a little confused by the Church of England forbidding divorce. Didn't Henry the 8th formed the Church of England in order to do just that with his first wife? What changed?
The Church of England broke with Rome and allowed Henry VIII to declare his marriage to Catherine of Aragon invalid (because she was previously married to his brother). So on his view, he never DIVORCED Catherine (that is still not OK under Church of England), he was merely never properly married to her. He had previously petitioned the Catholic Church to make that declaration, but that didn't happen. In other words, the Church of England made Henry VIII the head of the church instead of the Pope in Rome, so he could declare his own marriage invalid. Hope my explanation makes sense :)
I had no idea that Queen Elizabeth supported Wallis after The Duke's death. And allowed them to be buried next to one another?! Wow. Good on her.
Mercy of last stages led her to give support
Queen Elizabeth II in one of the most intelligent, kindest, strongest women I've ever seen. She is very down to earth as well. I really don't know how she has dealt with so much drama within the family.
The Duke and Duchess had purchased burial plots in Baltimore in the event they could not be buried together at Frogmore.
Good on her? Do u know how bad this Wallace was
@@kellysam2076 Why was Wallis "bad?" Bc she wasn't a virgin & a divorcee? At the end of the day, you can't help who you fall in love with. Had David/King Edward been allowed to marry her, Queen Elizabeth would've never ascended to the throne. Despite the family drama that happened as a result of the abdication, I think the fact that the Queen allowed them to be buried next to one another speaks volumes. It's about respecting the love they had for each other. That's why I said "Good on her." It had nothing to do with how good or bad I think Wallis is.
My favourite tale about the RF's name change was that when King George V heard that they'd been called 'insipid and alien'. The King's response was "I may be insipid, but I'll be damned if I'm alien."
Did he really say that? Hahaha
I hadn’t realized before this video, but it really is a good thing that he did not stay king. The Holocaust was already horrific, he would have sent his Jewish subjects off to concentration camps as well and made things so much worse than they already were.
@Rosalind Riley If you watched the video, he would have been a puppet king for the Nazi party.
Wallis Simpson once said, "You can never be too rich or too skinny."
After watching the Crown, I coilent ever unseen the horrors that David did and how he just was friends with Hitler.
Hitler wasn't much different from the people running the USA at the time
@@girlonfire2.076 Prior to Pearl Harbor, Hitler had high support among Americans who admired him in favor of Stalin.
@@starventure true tbh, lots of people in USA and Europe at that time was VERY into eugenics as well. Nazi wasn't a special case, Germany and other white dominated countries were cut from the same cloth but the Nazi took it to another new level with the war they wagged. Horrid stuff all of it
Extraordinary watch. Wow so much new info I wasn't aware. Look forward to more
1936: You can’t marry a divorced American commoner!
Prince Harry: HOW BOUT I DO ANYWAY!!
Edit: Clearly some of you haven’t seen the History of Japan video 😂
Lol.
TBF to Harry, he's not 1st in line.
And British society's attitude towards marriage (& divorce) has changed a lot since the 30s. By the 30s, the monarchy had rather (hypocritically, in my view) reformed themselves into the institution to protect 'traditional' marriage. So for the heir & future king to marry a divorced person, that was a pretty big scandal (even though there's no statute you can point to which says that doing so would unilaterally bar him from the throne; David needed royal *approval* for his marriage, but nothing says divorced spouses *can't* be approved).
But the idea the monarchy protected the sanctity of marriage pretty much out the window by the time Charles & Diana got their (much needed) divorce (if Henry VIII hadn't thrown it out the window in the 1st place). It was institutional pressure from *within* the monarchy, & not any actual laws on the books, that kept David from marrying Wallis Simpson while retaining the crown.
Yeah but he was never gon a be king so can do wtf he wanted
and make it a girl who is 3 yrs older than me.
@@sillycookie1982 yo don't know that look at George the 6 or sultan Selim the II of Osmanli
Love how lindsay slides ads in like i literally thought that game ad was part of all this.
"in the coins Edward was supposed to face right, but insisted in facing left..."
Me: because he wanted to appear more progressive?
"... As to show the stylish part in his hair"
Me: oh, I see
I wonder if parliament gave Edward the "Wallis or the throne" ultimatum in order to get rid of him. WWII was on the way and parliament knew Bertie, not Edward, was the king they needed. They couldn't fire him but they could force him to quit.
Anybody with any sense knew by the middle 1930s that things were going to get bad in Europe, so they couldn't let Edward screw things up.
I remember people comparing this to what’s going on with Harry and Megan today and it’s so hugely not the same thing. Megan isn’t a Nazi sympathizer, Harry isn’t the first one in line for the throne so he’s not dumping all his responsibilities onto his brother and Harry really didn’t seem like he wanted to have this position at all even before Megan so she didn’t push him into anything
she may not be a nazi sympathizer but she is MOST DEFINITELY an opportunist. i get second hand embarrassment for megan. imagine going from “the suits girl” to daughter in law of the king. it’s hard to believe her when she says she’s so progressive and modern but marries into a family that represents everything she says she hates. can’t stand her or harry.
I had gathered that the bloom fell off the rose of romance pretty quickly (for Wallis, at least, from some of her later comments), but I never knew that it was never really there to begin with! She really painted herself into a corner, almost an Anne Boleyn kind of figure...she didn't lose her head, but she did lose her life in a way. I am a distant cousin through my matrilineal line and her father's family. My 6x great grandfather was a Warfield, his own mother was a Sewell, both founding families of Baltimore. Despite him moving to the midwest in the 1830s, the families apparently stayed in touch until my own grandmother's mother and grandmother died (1946 and 1953 respectively). So, it was known to me as a child that I was somehow related to Wallis, but not the how. On New Year's Eve 2020 I got home from parties and for some reason to see how far I could trace my matrilineal line just by internet searching, and that's how far I got. My mom made the connection when she saw my little scrap of paper tracing us back with the names and dates.
Wow, that’s fascinating!
He was the mentor of Prince Charles? Oh boy, Charles III is coming!
I think he will lick another name.
@@Valentina-Steinway I hope he licks another name.
And now we know why Charles is a wreck!
@@aliciaanguiano3860 Charles was Also close to Louis Mountbatten😬😬😬
Mentor is stretching it a bit.
It's interesting to notice that the Italian count (Galeazzo Ciano) with whom Wallis had a relationship while in China, became Mussolini's son in law. Many years later he plotted against the dictator but his plan was discovered, and he was sentenced to death.
Can you imagine how different life would be today if David stayed as King? Wow.
yikes 😅😅
My friends also often ask me to keep their lover company when they leave on a trip....
I had to rewind that part because seriously wtf
Talking about crossing boundaries
This is was the weirdest thing I ever heard
Proxy B.J.s 😎
I am glad you cleared this up. I have seen so many" had Edward VIII not abdicated, QEII would never have reigned. The crown may have bypassed King George VI( which would have been a loss- he & Queen Mum were just what the world needed), but QEII would have ( albeit later) gotten the crown.
You didn't mention that the "Italian count" she had an affair with in China was actually Galeazzo Ciano, who was Mussolini's son-in-law, and who would have likely been his successor had Mussolini not lost the war.
Never been so fast in my entire life to see Lindsey's videos 🥴
Edward *sees crown* Is for me?
Edward *sees wallis* Is for me?
Rest of the royal family - Jeez you can't have both just pick one!
Edward: *Picks Wallis.*
@@jamesfrancisedwardstuart6255 🤣
@@zoezhang5413 😁
@@zoezhang5413 I'm doing great zoe, how are you? :)
@@zoezhang5413 Good to hear! One of them is still mourning the loss of his daughter, the future queen! My other is mourning his 5 children while out at sea. The Duke of Kent had a daughter, she is the future queen! The rest are all ok, thank you for asking 😊
He reminds me so much of Harry. Not academically bright, wanting to be at the front lines militarily, party goer, attracted to American women…and falling in love with a controlling woman.
Harry is nothing like David. And the "controlling" narrative is only from the tabloids who have attacked them since day 1 to the point which Harry felt his only choice was to step down as a working royal to protect his family.
Not cause he didn't want the role.
Harry isn’t going to get throne ever. Meghan is not controlling. If anything Harry stay at her hip more than anything. I love that for them.
Wonderful documentary...well done. Even so many years later the story of Edward and Wallis still fascinates.
"She didn't like him..."
Me: "Oh."
"But she did like Hitler."
Me: "0 to 100 I see."
I find it ironic that the Church of England would balk at Edward's desire to marry Wallis as a divorcee; this from a church that was established by a king because of his adultery.