Of course it was David who stuck up for his only sister, and then she protested things for him like Elizabeth and Philip’s wedding. No matter what he did, his siblings did love him.
I wonder if at that time, David’s siblings (except for George VI) had no idea of his fascist leanings. Germany could have leveled Buckingham Palace. Did King George shield his siblings from the truth about David? They lost a brother in the war. Germany tried to kill King George! I would like to believe that if Princess Mary had known she would have told David to go to hell. As for Elizabeth’s wedding… Philip fought in WW II and at that time was a nobody. David supported Germany therefore putting Philip in danger along with every fighting Englishman. I would wash my hands of such an evil man. David is the one who turned his back on his siblings as he turned his back on England and took the side of a murdering insane lunatic.
@@marybeth1644 I couldn't agree more Mary Beth! George VI was a far better man than his brother Edward. Do you remember how their father George V predicted that "within a year of my death, Edward will have ruined himself"? I think Britain was much better off without him. Abdicating left Edward free to go and play golf with Goebbels and his other lovely Nazi friends, horrible man!
@@BeUngovernable4 Go back and read a few things. He loved his brothers and sister, and I sure as heck never said he was good. Britain would have been ruined if he had stayed King, everyone knows that.
@@BeUngovernable4 He went on one visit to Germany to give his wife a taste of an official state visit was and to give her the respect that he felt she deserved. Other than that visit, how did he sympathize or “ fraternize with Hitler ???? Get past the rumor and gossip , and into the facts !
I'm quite shocked The Crown didn't cover William and his plane crash. He was quite close to Charles and that's why his first son was named William. That show has ignored so many opportunities
@@patriciameagher9162 I am talking about the drama The Crown, not this channel's videos. The show has already gotten past the point of Prince William's death. I'd be pleased if she covered him though. He was interesting and crazy handsome
@@michellegordon6586 I never said The Crown was non fiction? It's called Historical Fiction. They cover historical events and dramatize them for entertainment. Regardless, Prince William's death would have been compelling to cover.
Queen Mary in particular mourned the loss of her youngest. For all her stern control over her emotions, mentions of her little boy was enough to make her shed tears, which is one of the many reasons John wasn't openly spoken of. The time of medicine wasn't ideal in his time, but Mary had to put her hope in it in hopes to help John. But in the end, just letting him live his life with people ready and willing to take care of him and play with him was the best course of action for him. Which is why I hate media adaptions portraying the Queen as uncaring about John. Because the truth was she cared *a lot* but her upbringing with an irresponsible and emotionally dependent mother forced her to be in control of herself in the face of things that upset her. So I'm glad this video showed Mary's care and relief that John's passing was a peaceful one since it shows how much she didn't want him to be scared.
@@celtictarotreadings333 He spent his retirement between Windsor and Wood Farm. During the pandemic lockdown, he and the Queen isolated themselves at Windsor.
Every time I hear Johnny story, my heart breaks. As a mom with a child on the spectrum, who also has a seizure disorder, my heart aches deeply for him.
Prince John was described as a gentle and sweet young boy who often played with his siblings. He meant the world to his family regardless of his epilepsy or autism. We all have imperfections. I think Prince John was a brave young Prince who sadly never got seen in public.
As somebody who was diagnosed with autism and epilepsy at the age of 2, I was deeply touched when I read your comment and I still am. 💖🥰💕 My heart too aches for prince John and I feel so grateful that me, your son, you and a bunch of other people with epilepsy (and people on the spectrum) have the tools, resources, and medical knowledge that Prince John didn’t have. 💖🥹🙂
Many thanks Lindsey! 👍😊 Despite Prince Henry's youthful indiscretion, he did rise to his responsibility as befitting his birthright of being a prince of the realm. His youngest son has also served with distinction. Prince George's sons and daughter have lived impeccable lives of service and moral fortitude. .... Their mother, Princess Marina would have been very proud of all of them.
Thank you for this upload. I never knew King George had so many siblings. I was looking for a documentary on the lost Prince John and came across this. I really enjoyed this, so thank you again
Poor John. Epilepsy is a terrible illness. My great aunt died of it a couple years ago. Even though she died in her old age, she still died from a grand mal seizure.
Absolutely! I love Lindsay's channel ❤ 💕 💓 💖 ♥ Edit: I have asked Lindsay to do a video about the history of Victorian Surgery. I read a brilliant book about this subject called 'The Butchering Art, How Joseph Lister Changed The Grisly World of Victorian Surgery.' The first few chapters are quite ghoulish, but it's a fascinating real - life story about one man's life - long quest to prevent infection and thus, save many thousands of lives. I recommend this book to anyone with an interest in the history of medicine. That was a long edit, sorry about that! 😅❤
Thank you for the introduction of Prince John. He's lovely and yet tragic with epilepsy. The lost Prince (a BBC mini movie) is about him, which is also a good guidance to know him more.
16:40 Well cited, Lindsay! The Vigil was been done last week as HM Queen Elizabeth II has passed this past September 2022. It was a wonder to behold her four children standing guard. It was a poignant and dare I say "holy" 20 minutes. Blessed be her memory. Amen.
Very sad what happened to Prince John. The opinion of professionals can be so brutal at times. In the 1920's when my grandmother was growing up, she was often unwell and her mother was told by Doctors that as a 'sickly' child she was unlikely to make it into adulthood. This caused the mother to not seek to make an effort to develop an emotional bond with her child, which deeply impacted my grandmother (for the rest of her life). Needless to say, my grandmother saw active service during WW2, like to so many, evading capture by the Nazis (which sadly her parents were unable to do), working for the French Resistance and getting British Airmen who had landed in France safely to the Spanish border for safe passage back to England. She lived an adventurous and extraordinary life and died at the age of 97. Even in her last days she reflected sadly and with regret that she had not had a close relationship with her mother.
@@kashfiaislam9995 I wouldn't wish the crown on anyone! "Uneasy rests the head who wears the crown" -- Shakespere (From the play Henry IV, Part 2, where King Henry laments his insomnia and worries) That is why we should pray for our monarchs (if we have one) and our political as well as spiritual leaders. Responsibility for others is a huge burden and a worry, if that person is doing their job properly.
Princess Mary's children are interesting too. Her son the Earl of Harewood was a major figure in the arts. He was Chair of the Edinburgh Festival, and I think of the Royal Opera House as well.
Out of the children of George V and Queen Mary, I've always related to John the most. I'm on the spectrum myself, and I have a mild form of epilepsy as well (epilepsy is a condition comorbid to the spectrum). I have to take medication once a day to make sure I don't have a seizure, because if I miss even one day, then I would most likely have an episode (some of my previous episodes were caused by missed medication). I think John would have been able to live longer had 21st century science and medicine existed back then, especially medication to better control his seizures. Still, it's such a tragic story, but it seems that when he died, his death was peaceful, but too early.
The doctor "caring" for the family is the one who in his diary recorded giving the king a lethal injection - supposedly euthanasia, but euthanasia without the patient's consent is generally called murder. Impossible to prove, but it seems plausible that he also murdered John in order to prevent him being an embarrassment to the family.
You are assuming the Royal family would avail themselves of the medication and medical diagnoses. The Royal family has a history of hiding away those children and adults who are mentally or physically disabled in one way or another.
Lindsay, can I just say the way you organize these content, and give regular episodes is just awesome. This is literally my Reality TV version of Royalty history! The information you give is so juicy yet informative and educational! I never really cared about this stuff but now because of you I am so invested.
That was an excellent video. The background music didn't drown out the narrative and appropriate content. It's nice to learn about the people that aren't in the spotlight and in an open and frank manner. Good work folks!
That man was truly incredible. While his daughter Elizabeth was working in the British Army, George VI himself practiced during the war with tommy guns and other weaponry. He was ready to fight alongside British forces if the Nazis landed on the isles and tried to take London (much like Belgium's super-manly King Albert I during World War I).
@@wfcoaker1398 A proper nasty piece being "the best" for a King? th-cam.com/video/FQR7lsm9xuI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DQ-6fnnUtcUjw71B A drunkard, a far-right nazi sympathizer, racist, class prejudiced... for a start and all the way through to the end. And what about the under siblings of Elizabeth II... the ones that were hidden away? Some mother that never deserved the adoration fools afforded her.
The not receiving equal pay was stunning though. Here in America, we had similar forces (Army WACs, Navy WAVES, female Marines, etc.) and made them permanent after World War II. They got equal pay since AT LEAST 1948, and I'm pretty sure that at least one of the branch ladies' forces got it during the war as well. When DID Britain change that awful policy?
@@dannetterousseau4095 I don't much about foreign law codes, but that's unbelievable if true. Here in America it's been illegal to not give equal pay for equal work since 1963. I have heard sadly that the military ladies of days' past in other countries often did not have it as good as ours (Canada and Australia actually abolished them entirely after World War II, then had to quickly bring them back a few years later with Korea and other Cold War events).
I hesitate to lump Prince John in with being scandalous, considering he was just a young boy whose only “scandal” was having a medical condition. (Though of course that was considered terrible because eugenics was so popular at the time.) Even allowing that his behaviour and illness were embarrassing, that doesn’t compare with his brothers’ affairs as adults or his sister’s support for her unpopular brother (which in turn was about the only thing that I could find scandalous in her story).
@@karenryder6317 Yes, but Lindsay ought to have clarified that this was a very different type of scandal and not something that would be considered scandalous to us now. Even in the Edwardian era, grouping those types of scandals together would be odd. Really, she could have added a couple more lines to clarify that, but it is still a very good video.
@@zzzbbbooo David also wrote a very unfeeling letter to his mother just after Prince John died. There is not a copy of it as Queen Mary burnt it. David had to publicly apologise to her for his insensitivity. That being said David had large collection of photos of John in his house when he died and David enjoying pushing Prince John in a sit in car. David was most likely cross because WW1 had just ended and his younger brother death meant he could not go to any of the parties because his family was in mouring. Grief is a funny thing. David had always been rather selfish. The "little more than an animal" quote was written by David in a letter to his current mistress of the time just after John's death grief does odd things to people.
I knew almost nothing about the middle princes of this generation - you'd think there'd be more talk of the prince who drove through France while bombs dropped like it was no big deal, and the hard partying wild man who ran around London in drag.
Prince George, Duke of Kent's children are still alive. Their father's antics were and still are considered scandalous by many people. That is why he is not discussed very often. His children are: *Prince Edward, Duke of Kent* (age 87) *Princess Alexandra* , The Honourable Lady Ogilvy (age 86) *Prince Michael of Kent* (age 81) *Prince Edward and Princess* *Alexandra are still working* *royals.* Prince Michael was a part-time working royal but he has since retired. Prince Edward's wife, Katherine (née Worsley) has retired as a working royal and is, sadly in rather poor health. She is 90 years old, born in Yorkshire, UK Prince Michael's wife (née Baroness Marie-Christine Anna Agnes Hedwig Ida von Reibnitz) has also retired. She is 71 years old. born in what is now the Karlsbad, Czech Republic (was part of Greater Germany when she was born, in 1945) Princess Alexandra's husband, Sir Angus Ogilvy died in 2004 (He was never a working royal) The Kent's mother, Princess Marina of Greece and Denmark died in 1968. She was a working royal both before and after her husband's death (1942) All of the Kents have grown children, cousins of King Charles and his siblings.
in 2003 the BBC produced a wonderfully acted and very tender portrayal of Prince John's short and sheltered life called "The Lost Prince". It is a very painful reminder of how royal decorum and dignity can clash with human warmth and compassion. I'm sure King George V and Queen Mary loved John, but the stiff formally of their own upbringing and the times in which they lived were not given to displays of such emotions. The programme was a great success with British public and the acting of Miranda Richardson and co much commented upon.This little prince's life is on you tube. Call up... PART 1-THE LOST PRINCE (2003).
Came across a recent video that suggested Lord Dawson of Penn (medical murderer of George V) may have been involved in Prince John's death. Whatever the truth, the poor boy is at peace.
Prince John, from reading about him, seems to have been a most charming and fun little boy who grew in his compassion and empathy by the time he was 8 or so. Perhaps a bit older. He was a very loving boy who delighted in life. Always sad to lose the very young, I am grateful to God that He took him peacefully ! Lovely Young Man, Prince John ! I would think these royal people would honor his memory by naming a child after him. Odd, never thought they were superstitious until now ! John is such a wonderful name !
As an American, I have been largely unaware of the members of the extended Royal Family, so I am surprised at the challenges they have faced. I keep thinking about the admirable Queen Elizabeth and her feelings for her grandson, Harry. Now I know that Queen Mary had her hands full, too.
As an ex Australian Navy man l was teased and bullied because l had a stutter. Made me very strong as latter l was able to get into our SASR . Never let people put you down. I once did a course in the Navy and was questioned about my stutter, my answer was if our then King could rule our country why l could not pass. I passed. 😊
Queen Mary was intelligent but King George was tyrannical and short-tempered. Of her sons, only George inherited her intelligence and good taste. Queen Mary put her duty as wife and Queen ahead of her duty to be a nurturing and protective mother.
This Was Very Interesting To Learn About The Aunts And Uncles Of Queen Elizabeth II!!! I've Heard About Prince Michael Of Kent And The Honorable Lady Ogilvy,This Video Featuring Their Father And His Other Siblings Was Very FASCINATING!!! 🥰😍🤩👑💜💜💜💜
Okay so a little fact-checking here, King John was NOT cruel or a bad ruler. That myth was popularized by the "Robin Hood" stories. Large taxes came from his brother Richard, because the country had to pay his RANSOM after he got kidnapped, because he was off on crusade. If you had to actually pick a bad ruler, it was Richard who is revered because of the Robin Hood story! He bankrupted England, only spent 7 MONTHS of his 10 YEAR REIGN in the country he ruled. King John helped England recover. I won't say he was some fantastic king, but he wasn't an evil tyrant that people make him out to be. King Richard and King John were just people, not heroes or villains.
I agree that Richard was a useless king but isn't John suspected of murdering his 15 year old nephew, Arthur after having usurped the throne from him? Some contempprary accounts say he did so in person. It is hard to see who else would have wanted him dead.
John not cruel! Absolute Cobblers!! While his brother Richard was on Crusade, he took over his kingdom and gave parts of it to the French King Philippe Auguste. He was lucky that Richard did not have him killed when he returned! John lost control of Normandy and allowed it to be taken over by Philippe Auguste when he became king. To pay for a counter-invasion he imposed ferocious taxes on nobles, peasantry and clerics alike. And he picked A quarrel with the Pope Innocent III over the choice of person to be Archbishop of Canterbury that led to his personal excommunication! When he eventually invaded the lost lands, his principal ally abruptly dumped him as a large French army approached him. The reason was that John had carried off his fiancee to be Queen! John lost the war and tried to raise more money for another invasion. His exasperated barons forced him to fix his seal to the Magna Carta that severely limitedhis power. When the barons decided to implement the legislation, he went to war against them, eventually dying of dysentery. And he ordered the murder of Prince Arthur, a son of an elder brother, who had a better claim to the throne than him. Some have traced his deviousness to his youth, when he was sent to Ireland by his dad Henry II and laughed at the Irish chiefs and pulled their long beards. And he developed a habit of feuding and inciting bloodshed that was typical of the Irish chiefs and their Viking neighbours. Not for nothing did the Dublin-born playwright George Bernard Shaw snort, "If you stick an Irishman on a spit, you can always find another Irishman to turn him!" The Historian Matthew Paris wrote: "Foul place though it is, Hell would still be stained by the even fouler presence of King John!!"
King John was an awful ruler. King John had to kidnapped his noble eldests sons to get them to pay tax. Hence why the Barons made him sign the Magna Carta Libertatum in 1215.
I didn’t know Prince Henry was Prince William’s father! I just watched the interview with Zsuzsie sharing their love story 😭 let me just say that Prince William is the most good looking prince among the modern royals. He def got it from his mother. Princess Alice is gorgeous.
I do not understand price David’s riddlcule by the British and national press and the godwtship of kigh gerorge six I think it so unfair sine recent secrets about queen mary George wife and what a racist and social climber se was
You've done videos on the daughters of Tsar Nicholas, have you considered doing videos on the children of Tsar Alexander like Grand Dukes George and Michael and Grand Duchesses Xenia and Olga?
Because of their status. The Harewoods are not HRH because they come from a female line while the Kents and Gloucesters are HRH as they come from male lines.
Number one your presentation of the material was fantastic held my interest start to finish #2 the fact that everybody was related to everybody else Finland Greece etc but especially when the war came chips maybe down but they were out there Churchill was the voice but there were the field operatives rallying the troops boosting moral.when Churchill said blood , sweat,tears they gave blood,sweat,&tears I did not know this thank u it puts a new light on them for me thank u again well done !!!👏👏👏👏
Princess Mary was a good daughter, devoted sister & an outstanding role model for women, yes, but for *all* people as well. Her devotion to duty was unwavering but l think she enjoyed a life of good service & kind decency! Good on her!👍🏻 I have seen the story of Johnny, and it very sad. 💔Poor little lad.🌹😔🌹 Young Lady, l must tell you l am INCREDIBLY impressed with all the wonderful information you somehow managed to gather, and the FANTASTIC old photos & footage you also found to accompany. As a History lover & huge fan of our beloved Queen, as well as enjoying doing photography, your well researched stories here ticked off *every* box for me. Well 🏆done, thank💐 you!!👍🏻🌈☮️🇨🇦
Williams’ story is so sad. He & that one Swedish(?) girl seemed to be very much in love & happy, but his parents wouldn’t fully accept her. Then they split up at some point because of the pressure that was being put on him & he died in that plane crash. So sad. I didn’t know his dad was too sick to be aware of his death, so they must have had a surprising reunion in heaven 2 years later!
I so hope you keep expanding on the descendants of Queen Victoria. Another fascinating one would be the various branches of descent from Sophia of Hanover
I’m convinced there are certain names that have been passed down through the royal family that are either cursed or blessed in certain ways. I was writing this as you mentioned that no one has named their child John since. Elizabeth seems to have long life attached to it, because she’s 95 & doesn’t seem to slow down much, lol so I’m sure she’s got a few more years left in her; at least 2-3!
Princess Diana wanted to name either William or Harry (can't remember which one) John or include it in their names, but she was barred cuz it's seen as "cursed".. Her dad's name is Edward John but went by John.
"John" has always been discouraged for two reasons: one, unfavorable memory of the disastrous King John, and two, that it seemed to be too "common" a name shared with subjects. "Richard" has not been used for likely heirs to the Crown because of the association with Richard III. "Henry" was very popular in the Middle Ages, but not used for an heir apparent since James I' s eldest son died, not because of Henry VIII, but because later Stuarts and the Hanoverans preferred other names. Some royal titles are also thought cursed in some way, the most noted being Duke of Clarence. Even the title of Duke of York has a hint of taint to it, as the title has been granted for centuries to the second son of the monarch, and yet the holder either eventually gains the throne or else dies young or otherwise without male heirs, making the title extinct...a run that will apparently continue with the present holder of that title.
Great video! Would love you to do one about royals who died in plane crashes, there are surprisingly a lot! Prince George and Prince William of course, but also King Carl XVI Gustaf’s father died in a plane crash, Prince Philip’s sister and her family, and also another of his brothers-in-law Christoph of Hesse.
Yes and I’ve read this week that Queen Elizabeth is urging Prince William to stop flying his family on helicopters, among several reasons, including with his oldest son and risk to line of succession
@@NotMykl I think that's the thing. Their whole family (William, Catherine, George, Charlotte & Louis) is always flying in the same helicopter/plane. And they do it quite often too.
Love your content!!! Just a little correction: prince george’s dark times were actually before his marriage. He met kiki preston in the 20’s and it was around that period that he became involved with drugs. The book “George V’s children” the author John van Der Kiste says “[the prince of wales] dutifully sacrificed the chance of a holiday with Mrs Dudley Ward, in order to put his brother [the duke of kent] back on the right track, and by the end of 1929 ‘the cure’ had worked.” Other books and most sources that I’ve found state that by the time of his marriage he had already moved on from his old scandalous life and, by the time he married Marina, he really settled down (even though maintaining a very agitated social life). Information about prince george relatively scarce compared to his siblings, even though his life (and death) was so interesting… therefore there are many rumors that are taken as fact. That is a consequence of a lot of information about him being withheld, probably because it’s too sensitive or perhaps inclined to cause a little bit of strain, considering his children are still alive. I should hope that in the future there’ll be more documents released about him and so a more complete and accurate picture can be composed of the man
Another misconception is that he was a nazi sympathizer. Before the start of the war, he was really keen on trying to maintain a good relationship with Germany to prevent a war (certainly to spare British lives and all the horrors that the war eventually brought), but when the war started, he was clearly against the nazis. The book “Royals and The Reich” the author Jonathan Petropoulos writes “While the Duke of Kent’s views about National Socialism remain murky, it is likely that he was unenthusiastic about the ideology (save for the anti-bolshevism), but nonetheless made an effort to help the British and German governments come to an understanding.”. In fact, it is assumed by many historians that the prince became a strong opposer of fascism, and when his brother David associated with and even, amid evidences, favored the nazis, betraying his brother George VI, in the book “George and Marina: duke and duchess of kent”, Christopher Warwick suggests the duke of kent was more enraged than the king himself, the two being in bad terms for the rest of George’s life. By the way, the prince was actually very much involved with social problems in britain and visited industries and other working places, which earned him the nickname “democratic prince” and even sparkled some rumors about him beign a communist (which is widely discarded).
I think this generation of royals is a particularly interesting one and I always liked Princess Mary. How about a video on the history of the Princess Royal title? You could cover all the women who have held it and explain why there was such a long gap between the first and second uses of it.
I'd like to learn the definitive history of Princess Mary. For decades, historians have been telling us that she was forced into a loveless marriage and was bitterly unhappy. Then, her family began saying that all that was a lie and that she was very happy. So which was it; 1. the earlier stuff was all made up or 2. the family is rewriting history?
They are so ignored, all you hear of is David. And I think Harry is using David's doings as an excuse to run off as well. It has been said neither Prince William or Harry did well in school. But I think in Harry's case it was no effort put forth as even as a child he tried getting away with what he wanted to do. Thankfully William seems to have a sense of Duty like his Grandmother and Great Grandfather.
16:39 - it happened for Queen Elizabeth II (The Vigil of the Princes) in mid-September, 2022. It was also the first time that a princess would be included - as Princess Royal Anne joined King Charles III, Prince Andrew, and Prince Edward.
This was a GOOD one! In The King's Speech and other movies....NOTHING about the siblings only David and Bertie.....in The Crown...we see the Gloucesters like twice I believe they were going behind Elizabeth's back still talking to Uncle David....but then nothing! Hardly any lines....no mention of Princess Mary and her husband ever. And of course, no mention of Prince John but there was the episode about the 2 disabled relatives on the Bowles-Lyon side of the family.
Prince Henry, Duke of Glouster, supposedly had a son named John Arthur Windsor by a woman named Margaret McKenna, and they lived in White Plains, New York. John Arthur Windsor was educated both in the United States and Canada. 🇨🇦 Prince Henry would supposedly travel back and forth from the UK to see his son and was usually intoxicated and cried during these visits. John's mother moved on with her life and married somebody else and had 3 more children who I now believe live in Florida. I do not believe that John Arthur ever got married. I heard that he was saddened that he had never gotten to know his father's family and yearned a relationship with them. I have heard that he was not interested in money or a title but wanted to be accepted and establish some kind of friendship with them. He is a staunch Royalist and you never hear him putting down the Queen or her family. Obviously, he has more class and integrity than Harry or Megan will ever have during their lifetime. John Arthur is very kind, decent, thoughtful, intelligent, and an absolute gentleman. In my opinion, he would be an asset to the Royal Family. He does have some physical resemblance to some of the Royal Family members such as today's Princess Marina when she was younger. In addition, he shows a strong resemblance to the late Prince John Windsor, son of George V, in the last photo that was taken of him before he died of complications due to epilepsy. The last time I heard about John Arthur Windsor is that he lived somewhere in Manhattan, New York. I heard a more recent rumor that he may now be living in New Jersey with some of his mother's relatives. God Bless him wherever he is now. If he can be found, I believe a DNA test should be in order and may the real truth prevail.
Of course it was David who stuck up for his only sister, and then she protested things for him like Elizabeth and Philip’s wedding. No matter what he did, his siblings did love him.
I wonder if at that time, David’s siblings (except for George VI) had no idea of his fascist leanings. Germany could have leveled Buckingham Palace. Did King George shield his siblings from the truth about David?
They lost a brother in the war. Germany tried to kill King George! I would like to believe that if Princess Mary had known she would have told David to go to hell.
As for Elizabeth’s wedding… Philip fought in WW II and at that time was a nobody. David supported Germany therefore putting Philip in danger along with every fighting Englishman. I would wash my hands of such an evil man. David is the one who turned his back on his siblings as he turned his back on England and took the side of a murdering insane lunatic.
@@marybeth1644 I couldn't agree more Mary Beth! George VI was a far better man than his brother Edward. Do you remember how their father George V predicted that "within a year of my death, Edward will have ruined himself"? I think Britain was much better off without him. Abdicating left Edward free to go and play golf with Goebbels and his other lovely Nazi friends, horrible man!
He was a nazi sympathizer who fraternized with Hitler, he does not deserve any sympathy regardless of who he stuck up for.
@@BeUngovernable4 Go back and read a few things. He loved his brothers and sister, and I sure as heck never said he was good. Britain would have been ruined if he had stayed King, everyone knows that.
@@BeUngovernable4 He went on one visit to Germany to give his wife a taste of an official state visit was and to give her the respect that he felt she deserved. Other than that visit, how did he sympathize or “ fraternize with Hitler ???? Get past the rumor and gossip , and into the facts !
I'm quite shocked The Crown didn't cover William and his plane crash. He was quite close to Charles and that's why his first son was named William. That show has ignored so many opportunities
William was a different generation to the ones we have seen here so perhaps we will get a video one day about him.
@@patriciameagher9162 I am talking about the drama The Crown, not this channel's videos. The show has already gotten past the point of Prince William's death. I'd be pleased if she covered him though. He was interesting and crazy handsome
@@ShakespearsCyst Oh, right. Sorry my mistake.
The crown is not based on factual information it exhibits some facts but it is fiction not non fiction !!
@@michellegordon6586 I never said The Crown was non fiction? It's called Historical Fiction. They cover historical events and dramatize them for entertainment. Regardless, Prince William's death would have been compelling to cover.
I didn't expect myself to cry over John's story but oh my goodness that poor little guy.
Queen Mary in particular mourned the loss of her youngest. For all her stern control over her emotions, mentions of her little boy was enough to make her shed tears, which is one of the many reasons John wasn't openly spoken of. The time of medicine wasn't ideal in his time, but Mary had to put her hope in it in hopes to help John. But in the end, just letting him live his life with people ready and willing to take care of him and play with him was the best course of action for him. Which is why I hate media adaptions portraying the Queen as uncaring about John.
Because the truth was she cared *a lot* but her upbringing with an irresponsible and emotionally dependent mother forced her to be in control of herself in the face of things that upset her. So I'm glad this video showed Mary's care and relief that John's passing was a peaceful one since it shows how much she didn't want him to be scared.
John's home (Wood Farm, Sandringham) was also the modest, homely farmhouse Prince Philip chose to retire to in 2017.
He lived in Windsor
@@celtictarotreadings333 He spent his retirement between Windsor and Wood Farm. During the pandemic lockdown, he and the Queen isolated themselves at Windsor.
Every time I hear Johnny story, my heart breaks. As a mom with a child on the spectrum, who also has a seizure disorder, my heart aches deeply for him.
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Prince John was described as a gentle and sweet young boy who often played with his siblings. He meant the world to his family regardless of his epilepsy or autism. We all have imperfections. I think Prince John was a brave young Prince who sadly never got seen in public.
As somebody who was diagnosed with autism and epilepsy at the age of 2, I was deeply touched when I read your comment and I still am. 💖🥰💕
My heart too aches for prince John and I feel so grateful that me, your son, you and a bunch of other people with epilepsy (and people on the spectrum) have the tools, resources, and medical knowledge that Prince John didn’t have. 💖🥹🙂
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Someone I love has epilepsy it breaks your heart but they are so much better off than people a hundred years ago, take care everyone 💕
Many thanks Lindsey! 👍😊
Despite Prince Henry's youthful indiscretion, he did rise to his responsibility as befitting his birthright of being a prince of the realm.
His youngest son has also served with distinction. Prince George's sons and daughter have lived impeccable lives of service and
moral fortitude. .... Their mother, Princess Marina would have been very proud of all of them.
Thank you for this upload. I never knew King George had so many siblings. I was looking for a documentary on the lost Prince John and came across this. I really enjoyed this, so thank you again
I have one of those Christmas boxes! It was my great grandfathers, he was in the Australian army and fought on the western front. It’s 105 years old 😬
Poor John. Epilepsy is a terrible illness. My great aunt died of it a couple years ago. Even though she died in her old age, she still died from a grand mal seizure.
You work so hard to put these videos out for us every week and we appreciate it.
Yes we do.
Definitely 🙌🏾💕
Definitely! Look forward to it every week!
Great Videos,I Always Look Forward To The Next One!!! 👑❤❤❤
Absolutely! I love Lindsay's channel ❤ 💕 💓 💖 ♥
Edit: I have asked Lindsay to do a video about the history of Victorian Surgery. I read a brilliant book about this subject called 'The Butchering Art, How Joseph Lister Changed The Grisly World of Victorian Surgery.' The first few chapters are quite ghoulish, but it's a fascinating real - life story about one man's life - long quest to prevent infection and thus, save many thousands of lives. I recommend this book to anyone with an interest in the history of medicine. That was a long edit, sorry about that! 😅❤
Wow! This was very interesting. I also never realized how much all the siblings look alike. Princess Mary and Elizabeth looked a lot alike.
That’s the incest
mary remind me of Anne (the Queen's dauther)
@@verogoss I had that thought as well when I saw the snaps of her.
It's called being related you fool. Do you not look like any of your relations?
@@carolannemckenzie3849 Well aren't you full of Christmas spirit?
This was SO interesting! It's always so good to hear more about the royals who are close to our Queen but we know little about. Thank you so much!
what was scandalous about princess mary,she was a lovely person,and did'nt do anything scandalous.
What about the hidden siblings of Lizzy II ? And the scummy upper class tosser nature of Lizzy's Mother?
The Resemblance Between Princess Mary,Her Niece Queen Elizabeth II And Great Niece Princess Anne Is SPOT ON!!!
A lot of the royals seem to take after Queen Mary.
Zara Tindall also looks much like Princess Mary.
Thank you for the introduction of Prince John. He's lovely and yet tragic with epilepsy. The lost Prince (a BBC mini movie) is about him, which is also a good guidance to know him more.
A movie made for entertainment purposes is not "good guidance". Reading a book by a respected, proper investigative author is far better.
16:40 Well cited, Lindsay! The Vigil was been done last week as HM Queen Elizabeth II has passed this past September 2022. It was a wonder to behold her four children standing guard. It was a poignant and dare I say "holy" 20 minutes.
Blessed be her memory. Amen.
Very sad what happened to Prince John.
The opinion of professionals can be so brutal at times.
In the 1920's when my grandmother was growing up, she was often unwell and her mother was told by Doctors that as a 'sickly' child she was unlikely to make it into adulthood. This caused the mother to not seek to make an effort to develop an emotional bond with her child, which deeply impacted my grandmother (for the rest of her life). Needless to say, my grandmother saw active service during WW2, like to so many, evading capture by the Nazis (which sadly her parents were unable to do), working for the French Resistance and getting British Airmen who had landed in France safely to the Spanish border for safe passage back to England. She lived an adventurous and extraordinary life and died at the age of 97. Even in her last days she reflected sadly and with regret that she had not had a close relationship with her mother.
I wish Prince John did not die so young, killed his older brothers, and became King John II. 👑💍
@@kashfiaislam9995 What in god's name is that plan?
@@kashfiaislam9995
I wouldn't wish the crown on anyone!
"Uneasy rests the head who wears the crown" -- Shakespere
(From the play Henry IV, Part 2, where King Henry laments his insomnia and worries)
That is why we should pray for our monarchs (if we have one) and our political as well as spiritual leaders.
Responsibility for others is a huge burden and a worry, if that person is doing their job properly.
I haven't read a lot about Alice but the story of her son Prince William of Gloucester is heartbreaking.
So sad! The documentary of him and Zsuzsi is so beautiful and sad. She still wears his ring inscribed with W around her neck.
She finally found her love on May 1 2020. RIP Zsuzsi.
I notice that Queen Elizabeth's daughter, Princess Anne, resembles her great aunt Princess Mary!
Thank you for another great video, Lindsay 😊
I saw that also
Yes they do!
It's surprising because I always thought Anne favored Phillip rather than his mother's side of the family.
I agree and think that Princess Anne's daughter Zara, currently looks a lot like Princess Mary as well.
Prince William's daughter also resembles Anne and Mary.
Princess Mary's children are interesting too. Her son the Earl of Harewood was a major figure in the arts. He was Chair of the Edinburgh Festival, and I think of the Royal Opera House as well.
My dad met an elderly retired nurse once who had worked with Princess Mary, whom she said was lovely.
Out of the children of George V and Queen Mary, I've always related to John the most. I'm on the spectrum myself, and I have a mild form of epilepsy as well (epilepsy is a condition comorbid to the spectrum). I have to take medication once a day to make sure I don't have a seizure, because if I miss even one day, then I would most likely have an episode (some of my previous episodes were caused by missed medication). I think John would have been able to live longer had 21st century science and medicine existed back then, especially medication to better control his seizures. Still, it's such a tragic story, but it seems that when he died, his death was peaceful, but too early.
The doctor "caring" for the family is the one who in his diary recorded giving the king a lethal injection - supposedly euthanasia, but euthanasia without the patient's consent is generally called murder. Impossible to prove, but it seems plausible that he also murdered John in order to prevent him being an embarrassment to the family.
You are assuming the Royal family would avail themselves of the medication and medical diagnoses. The Royal family has a history of hiding away those children and adults who are mentally or physically disabled in one way or another.
Same I have a lot of similar problems to George and Johnny
We all have imperfections or illnesses, Prince John unfortunately suffered a tragic death at such a young age. He’s still a role model though.
I thought he died from haemophilia
The movie The Lost Prince has always stuck with me. I love the way the way the relationship between Johnnie and Lalla was portrayed.
I love that movie
And George.
@@yogitakapoor4901 Me, too. It's just wonderful. A dramatized approach to his story that works beautifully.
You have no idea how much i love your videos, I love learning especially royal history!
"They were cut from the same dapper, gin-soaked cloth" has to be the best line in this episode! 🤣
Lindsay, can I just say the way you organize these content, and give regular episodes is just awesome. This is literally my Reality TV version of Royalty history! The information you give is so juicy yet informative and educational! I never really cared about this stuff but now because of you I am so invested.
Well said, thanks. I second that.
That was an excellent video. The background music didn't drown out the narrative and appropriate content. It's nice to learn about the people that aren't in the spotlight and in an open and frank manner. Good work folks!
You make my Tuesdays! I listen/watch these while I work from home.
John’s mom bringing kids to play with him so he doesn’t feel lonely 😭😭😭
a while ago i saw a video of an elderly lady recounting how she used to play with him when they were kids, it was very sweet
He wasn't allowed to attend school so he would be lonely.
@@leonieromanes7265 Yes, such was the ideas of the time period. So glad we know better now.
This was the first I heard that grandmother Alexandra spent so much time with him, making a garden together.
Interesting as shown in THE CROWN....Queen Mary could be one cold, dry, customer. She clearly favored David.
finally! I just adore your videos ❤️
King George VI definetly the best one ever!
He had the best wife a king could want. She was his backbone.
That man was truly incredible. While his daughter Elizabeth was working in the British Army, George VI himself practiced during the war with tommy guns and other weaponry. He was ready to fight alongside British forces if the Nazis landed on the isles and tried to take London (much like Belgium's super-manly King Albert I during World War I).
@@wfcoaker1398 A proper nasty piece being "the best" for a King?
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A drunkard, a far-right nazi sympathizer, racist, class prejudiced... for a start and all the way through to the end.
And what about the under siblings of Elizabeth II... the ones that were hidden away? Some mother that never deserved the adoration fools afforded her.
As an army man and a feminist, the photos of the women in uniform standing at attention made me smile.
I didn't smile though when I heard they got less pay...😉
@@carolannemckenzie3849
Sadly, that was a different time where they didn’t understand the inequality.
The not receiving equal pay was stunning though. Here in America, we had similar forces (Army WACs, Navy WAVES, female Marines, etc.) and made them permanent after World War II. They got equal pay since AT LEAST 1948, and I'm pretty sure that at least one of the branch ladies' forces got it during the war as well. When DID Britain change that awful policy?
@@dannetterousseau4095 I don't much about foreign law codes, but that's unbelievable if true. Here in America it's been illegal to not give equal pay for equal work since 1963. I have heard sadly that the military ladies of days' past in other countries often did not have it as good as ours (Canada and Australia actually abolished them entirely after World War II, then had to quickly bring them back a few years later with Korea and other Cold War events).
@@dannetterousseau4095 ummm yes, yes we do
I hesitate to lump Prince John in with being scandalous, considering he was just a young boy whose only “scandal” was having a medical condition. (Though of course that was considered terrible because eugenics was so popular at the time.) Even allowing that his behaviour and illness were embarrassing, that doesn’t compare with his brothers’ affairs as adults or his sister’s support for her unpopular brother (which in turn was about the only thing that I could find scandalous in her story).
I wonder how David felt about his rother
I think it was scandalous in those days to have an epileptic child.
@@karenryder6317 Yes, but Lindsay ought to have clarified that this was a very different type of scandal and not something that would be considered scandalous to us now. Even in the Edwardian era, grouping those types of scandals together would be odd. Really, she could have added a couple more lines to clarify that, but it is still a very good video.
@@ashley-anne7043 If you're talking about John, David described him as "little more than an animal".
@@zzzbbbooo David also wrote a very unfeeling letter to his mother just after Prince John died. There is not a copy of it as Queen Mary burnt it. David had to publicly apologise to her for his insensitivity. That being said David had large collection of photos of John in his house when he died and David enjoying pushing Prince John in a sit in car. David was most likely cross because WW1 had just ended and his younger brother death meant he could not go to any of the parties because his family was in mouring. Grief is a funny thing. David had always been rather selfish. The "little more than an animal" quote was written by David in a letter to his current mistress of the time just after John's death grief does odd things to people.
I knew almost nothing about the middle princes of this generation - you'd think there'd be more talk of the prince who drove through France while bombs dropped like it was no big deal, and the hard partying wild man who ran around London in drag.
Prince George, Duke of Kent's
children are still alive. Their
father's antics were and still
are considered scandalous
by many people. That is why
he is not discussed very
often. His children are:
*Prince Edward, Duke of Kent* (age 87)
*Princess Alexandra* ,
The Honourable Lady Ogilvy (age 86)
*Prince Michael of Kent* (age 81)
*Prince Edward and Princess*
*Alexandra are still working*
*royals.* Prince Michael was
a part-time working royal
but he has since retired.
Prince Edward's wife, Katherine
(née Worsley) has retired as a
working royal and is, sadly
in rather poor health. She
is 90 years old, born in
Yorkshire, UK
Prince Michael's wife (née
Baroness Marie-Christine Anna
Agnes Hedwig Ida von Reibnitz)
has also retired. She is 71 years
old. born in what is now
the Karlsbad, Czech Republic
(was part of Greater Germany
when she was born, in 1945)
Princess Alexandra's husband,
Sir Angus Ogilvy died in 2004
(He was never a working royal)
The Kent's mother, Princess
Marina of Greece and Denmark
died in 1968. She was a working
royal both before and after her
husband's death (1942)
All of the Kents have grown
children, cousins of King
Charles and his siblings.
in 2003 the BBC produced a wonderfully acted and very tender portrayal of Prince John's short and sheltered life called "The Lost Prince". It is a very painful reminder of how royal decorum and dignity can clash with human warmth and compassion. I'm sure King George V and Queen Mary loved John, but the stiff formally of their own upbringing and the times in which they lived were not given to displays of such emotions. The programme was a great success with British public and the acting of Miranda Richardson and co much commented upon.This little prince's life is on you tube. Call up... PART 1-THE LOST PRINCE (2003).
Thank you
Your voice is so sweet to listen to while telling these stories.
Thank you for the royal stories...❤️
Poor John 😭
That just broke my heart
At least he died peacefully but why did he have to be so young?!?! 😭😭😭
He had a severe form of epilepsy and suffered from poor health his entire life.
@@gingerhammond6446 Yh I know but still
It’s so sad 😞
Came across a recent video that suggested Lord Dawson of Penn (medical murderer of George V) may have been involved in Prince John's death. Whatever the truth, the poor boy is at peace.
@@OzzieJayne 😭😭😭
It probably has a little bit to do with the inbreeding royals do.
Prince John, from reading about him, seems to have been a most charming and fun little boy who grew in his compassion and empathy by the time he was 8 or so. Perhaps a bit older. He was a very loving boy who delighted in life. Always sad to lose the very young, I am grateful to God that He took him peacefully ! Lovely Young Man, Prince John ! I would think these royal people would honor his memory by naming a child after him. Odd, never thought they were superstitious until now ! John is such a wonderful name !
And he was the only royal who was allowed to be himself.
I agree that John is a great name. We have lots of John's in my fily. ❤
Family ***
Lindsay you work so hard for us❤️thankyou baby girl
the children of George v and their relationships with one another are truly interesting
As an American, I have been largely unaware of the members of the extended Royal Family, so I am surprised at the challenges they have faced. I keep thinking about the admirable Queen Elizabeth and her feelings for her grandson, Harry. Now I know that Queen Mary had her hands full, too.
As an ex Australian Navy man l was teased and bullied because l had a stutter. Made me very strong as latter l was able to get into our SASR . Never let people put you down. I once did a course in the Navy and was questioned about my stutter, my answer was if our then King could rule our country why l could not pass. I passed. 😊
Brilliant video. King George V had some very interesting offspring!
Queen Mary was intelligent but King George was tyrannical and short-tempered. Of her sons, only George inherited her intelligence and good taste. Queen Mary put her duty as wife and Queen ahead of her duty to be a nurturing and protective mother.
I didn’t know there were more siblings! 😳 one only ever hears about David and Bertie. Thanks!
I didn’t even realize Queen Elizabeth had that many uncles or an aunt!
Even more on her mother's side. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon had nine siblings.
Been waiting with anticipation for this video after part one! I love your videos, always so interesting. Informative while entertaining. Thank you!
The Princess Mary is whom Princess Royal Anne is the spitting image of
This Was Very Interesting To Learn About The Aunts And Uncles Of Queen Elizabeth II!!! I've Heard About Prince Michael Of Kent And The Honorable Lady Ogilvy,This Video Featuring Their Father And His Other Siblings Was Very FASCINATING!!! 🥰😍🤩👑💜💜💜💜
Very well documented and the presentation was flawless!
KUDOS to you for a job well done!
"Henry wasn't very intelligent but had an aptitude for math." Ok.
"Cut from the same dapper, gin-soaked cloth." That's pure gold right there lol. Great video!
Really enjoyed the program thank you 🙏.
Okay so a little fact-checking here, King John was NOT cruel or a bad ruler. That myth was popularized by the "Robin Hood" stories. Large taxes came from his brother Richard, because the country had to pay his RANSOM after he got kidnapped, because he was off on crusade. If you had to actually pick a bad ruler, it was Richard who is revered because of the Robin Hood story! He bankrupted England, only spent 7 MONTHS of his 10 YEAR REIGN in the country he ruled. King John helped England recover. I won't say he was some fantastic king, but he wasn't an evil tyrant that people make him out to be. King Richard and King John were just people, not heroes or villains.
I agree that Richard was a useless king but isn't John suspected of murdering his 15 year old nephew, Arthur after having usurped the throne from him? Some contempprary accounts say he did so in person. It is hard to see who else would have wanted him dead.
@@keithbulley2587 That is what I remember from the ITC swashbuckling series Adventures of Robin Hood, Ivanhoe and Richard the Lion Heart. lol
John not cruel!
Absolute Cobblers!!
While his brother Richard was on Crusade, he took over his kingdom and gave parts of it to the French King Philippe Auguste. He was lucky that Richard did not have him killed when he returned! John lost control of Normandy and allowed it to be taken over by Philippe Auguste when he became king. To pay for a counter-invasion he imposed ferocious taxes on nobles, peasantry and clerics alike. And he picked A quarrel with the Pope Innocent III over the choice of person to be Archbishop of Canterbury that led to his personal excommunication! When he eventually invaded the lost lands, his principal ally abruptly dumped him as a large French army approached him. The reason was that John had carried off his fiancee to be Queen! John lost the war and tried to raise more money for another invasion. His exasperated barons forced him to fix his seal to the Magna Carta that severely limitedhis power. When the barons decided to implement the legislation, he went to war against them, eventually dying of dysentery.
And he ordered the murder of Prince Arthur, a son of an elder brother, who had a better claim to the throne than him.
Some have traced his deviousness to his youth, when he was sent to Ireland by his dad Henry II and laughed at the Irish chiefs and pulled their long beards. And he developed a habit of feuding and inciting bloodshed that was typical of the Irish chiefs and their Viking neighbours.
Not for nothing did the Dublin-born playwright George Bernard Shaw snort,
"If you stick an Irishman on a spit, you can always find another Irishman to turn him!"
The Historian Matthew Paris wrote: "Foul place though it is, Hell would still be stained by the even fouler presence of King John!!"
King John was an awful ruler. King John had to kidnapped his noble eldests sons to get them to pay tax. Hence why the Barons made him sign the Magna Carta Libertatum in 1215.
Oh yeah, he was so benevolent
that the nobles forced him to
sign the Magna Carta (1215)
for giggles! Oy!
Very informative and complete. I loved this--the best discussion of the Royal Family I have evr read. Bravo! A great job!
Please do a video cover the Ethiopian Royal Family. Lot's of great information to share there!
I’m a Guide leader and I didn’t realise what Princess Mary did for the organisation. I love learning things like this!!
I didn’t know Prince Henry was Prince William’s father! I just watched the interview with Zsuzsie sharing their love story 😭 let me just say that Prince William is the most good looking prince among the modern royals. He def got it from his mother. Princess Alice is gorgeous.
William of Gloucester was definitely the best looking of George V’s grandchildren!
Sadly the lady passed away in recent years. Shame their relationship was stopped.
I do not understand price David’s riddlcule by the British and national press and the godwtship of kigh gerorge six I think it so unfair sine recent secrets about queen mary George wife and what a racist and social climber se was
Prince Henry's younger son Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester was also very handsome when he was young. 👑💍
@@piratesswoop725 So was his younger brother, Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester. 👑💍
GREAT VIDEO. THANK YOU
Man... No doubt they're cousins. They could even pass as siblings. They looked so much alike
Your videos are among my favorite on you tube.
Well done.
LUV YOUR CHANNEL 🥰🥰🥰
5:33 the similarity between Mary and Elizabeth II are too close ..they look less like more like mom and daughter ...this family has some strong genes
I mean look at the royal cousins on both sides of world war 1
@@FishBoneD14 Yes. King George V,Emperor Wilhelm II And Emperor Nicholas II Looked Like BROTHERS Rather Than Cousins,They Could've Been Triplets!!!
@@gregoryjones9546 King George V, Kaiser Wilhelm II, and Czar Nicholas II looked like they were brothers since their parents were siblings. 👑💍🇬🇧🇩🇪🇷🇺
@@gregoryjones9546 King George V, Kaiser Wilhelm II, and Czar Nicholas II were also very short. They were all below 5'8". 🇬🇧🇩🇪🇷🇺
So sad about little John, “troubled spirit” as his mother wrote.
Thank you for your dedication for improving our minds by sharing this information! Happy holidays and New Year!
Dude, I started crying when your voice broke talking about johns death 😭
Thanks for such great content to listen to at work! Love it! Keep up the awesome work!
Princess Anne looks a lot like Princess Mary. It comes with the titel?
I got a lil choked up there at the end…
You've done videos on the daughters of Tsar Nicholas, have you considered doing videos on the children of Tsar Alexander like Grand Dukes George and Michael and Grand Duchesses Xenia and Olga?
Good shout
I'm surprised we don't hear much of princess Mary's descendants ,the Harewoods since we do hear about the Kents and glocousters a little bit
Because of their status. The Harewoods are not HRH because they come from a female line while the Kents and Gloucesters are HRH as they come from male lines.
Maybe because they don't want to be in the fishbowl?
Number one your presentation of the material was fantastic held my interest start to finish #2 the fact that everybody was related to everybody else Finland Greece etc but especially when the war came chips maybe down but they were out there Churchill was the voice but there were the field operatives rallying the troops boosting moral.when Churchill said blood , sweat,tears they gave blood,sweat,&tears I did not know this thank u it puts a new light on them for me thank u again well done !!!👏👏👏👏
Poor John! That part makes my heart hurt. 💙💙
Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester was a representative of the Queen (Elizabeth II) during Malaya independence ceremony on 31st August 1957
As a Malaysian, I thank you for that info!
Damn i almost shed a tear at the end there- poor John
Why is it that John is almost always pictured in the sailor-type outfit? I noticed the same about Alexei of Russia
Because sailor suits were popular clothing to young royal boys back then i think
Princess Mary was a good daughter, devoted sister & an outstanding role model for women, yes, but for *all* people as well. Her devotion to duty was unwavering but l think she enjoyed a life of good service & kind decency! Good on her!👍🏻
I have seen the story of Johnny, and it very sad. 💔Poor little lad.🌹😔🌹
Young Lady, l must tell you l am INCREDIBLY impressed with all the wonderful information you somehow managed to gather, and the FANTASTIC old photos & footage you also found to accompany. As a History lover & huge fan of our beloved Queen, as well as enjoying doing photography, your well researched stories here ticked off *every* box for me. Well 🏆done, thank💐 you!!👍🏻🌈☮️🇨🇦
Thank you for this. There was some information that I didn't know.
Your offerings are always informative and well researched - but I have to say that this one taught me things I had never heard before!
I love your videos!!! Thank you 😊
Imagine what the dude would feel like when his sister told him his best friend proposed to her. I imagine a big brother comeback
😂
Williams’ story is so sad. He & that one Swedish(?) girl seemed to be very much in love & happy, but his parents wouldn’t fully accept her. Then they split up at some point because of the pressure that was being put on him & he died in that plane crash. So sad. I didn’t know his dad was too sick to be aware of his death, so they must have had a surprising reunion in heaven 2 years later!
Hungarian girl
Wow, I didn’t know there were other siblings. Mary looks so much like our queen!
No, Princess Mary looks like Zara Tindall. 👗👠👑💍
Your videos are SO informative and enjoyable.
I so hope you keep expanding on the descendants of Queen Victoria. Another fascinating one would be the various branches of descent from Sophia of Hanover
I’m convinced there are certain names that have been passed down through the royal family that are either cursed or blessed in certain ways. I was writing this as you mentioned that no one has named their child John since. Elizabeth seems to have long life attached to it, because she’s 95 & doesn’t seem to slow down much, lol so I’m sure she’s got a few more years left in her; at least 2-3!
Princess Diana wanted to name either William or Harry (can't remember which one) John or include it in their names, but she was barred cuz it's seen as "cursed".. Her dad's name is Edward John but went by John.
"John" has always been discouraged for two reasons: one, unfavorable memory of the disastrous King John, and two, that it seemed to be too "common" a name shared with subjects.
"Richard" has not been used for likely heirs to the Crown because of the association with Richard III.
"Henry" was very popular in the Middle Ages, but not used for an heir apparent since James I' s eldest son died, not because of Henry VIII, but because later Stuarts and the Hanoverans preferred other names.
Some royal titles are also thought cursed in some way, the most noted being Duke of Clarence. Even the title of Duke of York has a hint of taint to it, as the title has been granted for centuries to the second son of the monarch, and yet the holder either eventually gains the throne or else dies young or otherwise without male heirs, making the title extinct...a run that will apparently continue with the present holder of that title.
I hope she lives as long as her Mother did. And that the children inherit those genes.
@@baraxor I read somewhere that Harry’s given name is Henry, but he goes by Harry.
@@queenofthewhores yea & her dad had a stroke not long before her wedding & has since passed, I believe?
Great video!
Would love you to do one about royals who died in plane crashes, there are surprisingly a lot! Prince George and Prince William of course, but also King Carl XVI Gustaf’s father died in a plane crash, Prince Philip’s sister and her family, and also another of his brothers-in-law Christoph of Hesse.
Yes and I’ve read this week that Queen Elizabeth is urging Prince William to stop flying his family on helicopters, among several reasons, including with his oldest son and risk to line of succession
@@sashek8451 Prince William has more then one child so there is no "risk" to the line of succession.
@@NotMykl I think that's the thing. Their whole family (William, Catherine, George, Charlotte & Louis) is always flying in the same helicopter/plane. And they do it quite often too.
Wealthy families frequently fly alot, and often privately. A higher percentage of crashes in general than commercial flights.
Good presentation. Thanks for your contribution. 🇺🇸🇬🇧
Love your content!!! Just a little correction: prince george’s dark times were actually before his marriage. He met kiki preston in the 20’s and it was around that period that he became involved with drugs. The book “George V’s children” the author John van Der Kiste says “[the prince of wales] dutifully sacrificed the chance of a holiday with Mrs Dudley Ward, in order to put his brother [the duke of kent] back on the right track, and by the end of 1929 ‘the cure’ had worked.” Other books and most sources that I’ve found state that by the time of his marriage he had already moved on from his old scandalous life and, by the time he married Marina, he really settled down (even though maintaining a very agitated social life). Information about prince george relatively scarce compared to his siblings, even though his life (and death) was so interesting… therefore there are many rumors that are taken as fact. That is a consequence of a lot of information about him being withheld, probably because it’s too sensitive or perhaps inclined to cause a little bit of strain, considering his children are still alive. I should hope that in the future there’ll be more documents released about him and so a more complete and accurate picture can be composed of the man
Another misconception is that he was a nazi sympathizer. Before the start of the war, he was really keen on trying to maintain a good relationship with Germany to prevent a war (certainly to spare British lives and all the horrors that the war eventually brought), but when the war started, he was clearly against the nazis. The book “Royals and The Reich” the author Jonathan Petropoulos writes “While the Duke of Kent’s views about National Socialism remain murky, it is likely that he was unenthusiastic about the ideology (save for the anti-bolshevism), but nonetheless made an effort to help the British and German governments come to an understanding.”. In fact, it is assumed by many historians that the prince became a strong opposer of fascism, and when his brother David associated with and even, amid evidences, favored the nazis, betraying his brother George VI, in the book “George and Marina: duke and duchess of kent”, Christopher Warwick suggests the duke of kent was more enraged than the king himself, the two being in bad terms for the rest of George’s life. By the way, the prince was actually very much involved with social problems in britain and visited industries and other working places, which earned him the nickname “democratic prince” and even sparkled some rumors about him beign a communist (which is widely discarded).
I do not think that there was a plot to murder him.
Flying in fog is deadly .... Remember JFK Jr.?
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I think this generation of royals is a particularly interesting one and I always liked Princess Mary.
How about a video on the history of the Princess Royal title? You could cover all the women who have held it and explain why there was such a long gap between the first and second uses of it.
It's on my schedule for the spring!
She sounds like princess Anne, sporty and into charitable work.
I'd like to learn the definitive history of Princess Mary. For decades, historians have been telling us that she was forced into a loveless marriage and was bitterly unhappy. Then, her family began saying that all that was a lie and that she was very happy. So which was it; 1. the earlier stuff was all made up or 2. the family is rewriting history?
@@leonieromanes7265 I think Anne looks very much like her Great Aunt Mary.
Re: Princess Mary-you always liked Princess Mary? She lived 500 years before you! Well, could be a bad example.
I was surprised about the 4 other siblings. Enjoyed this video so much
15:04 Princess marina was a great granddaughter of tsar Alexander II of Russia not granddaughter
this was a fascinating video to watch !! thank you for all the time and effort you put into these 💕
It was so refreshing to learn more about the other 4 sibs, I enjoyed this video
They are so ignored, all you hear of is David. And I think Harry is using David's doings as an excuse to run off as well.
It has been said neither Prince William or Harry did well in school.
But I think in Harry's case it was no effort put forth as even as a child he tried getting away with what he wanted to do.
Thankfully William seems to have a sense of Duty like his Grandmother and Great Grandfather.
Love this stuff!
16:39 - it happened for Queen Elizabeth II (The Vigil of the Princes) in mid-September, 2022. It was also the first time that a princess would be included - as Princess Royal Anne joined King Charles III, Prince Andrew, and Prince Edward.
This was a GOOD one! In The King's Speech and other movies....NOTHING about the siblings only David and Bertie.....in The Crown...we see the Gloucesters like twice I believe they were going behind Elizabeth's back still talking to Uncle David....but then nothing! Hardly any lines....no mention of Princess Mary and her husband ever. And of course, no mention of Prince John but there was the episode about the 2 disabled relatives on the Bowles-Lyon side of the family.
Prince George, Duke of Kent, King Edward and King George were a really handsome trio.
A quartet, not a trio 🙄
@@JGJGAGSG Actually I only mention the three of them as I don't think of Prince Henry as all that handsome
@@benprice9917 King George V's third son Prince Henry was very handsome when he was very young before he became fat and bald. 👑💍
One of the very best I’ve seen!!
Lovely video!! Thank you as always for your hard work!! I had no idea that John was such an “unlucky” name for the royal family.
Hi could you please put up some more photos like this? Hard to see with writing all over it - thks
Prince Henry, Duke of Glouster, supposedly had a son named John Arthur Windsor by a woman named Margaret McKenna, and they lived in White Plains, New York. John Arthur Windsor was educated both in the United States and Canada. 🇨🇦 Prince Henry would supposedly travel back and forth from the UK to see his son and was usually intoxicated and cried during these visits. John's mother moved on with her life and married somebody else and had 3 more children who I now believe live in Florida. I do not believe that John Arthur ever got married. I heard that he was saddened that he had never gotten to know his father's family and yearned a relationship with them. I have heard that he was not interested in money or a title but wanted to be accepted and establish some kind of friendship with them. He is a staunch Royalist and you never hear him putting down the Queen or her family. Obviously, he has more class and integrity than Harry or Megan will ever have during their lifetime. John Arthur is very kind, decent, thoughtful, intelligent, and an absolute gentleman. In my opinion, he would be an asset to the Royal Family. He does have some physical resemblance to some of the Royal Family members such as today's Princess Marina when she was younger. In addition, he shows a strong resemblance to the late Prince John Windsor, son of George V, in the last photo that was taken of him before he died of complications due to epilepsy. The last time I heard about John Arthur Windsor is that he lived somewhere in Manhattan, New York. I heard a more recent rumor that he may now be living in New Jersey with some of his mother's relatives.
God Bless him wherever he is now. If he can be found, I believe a DNA test should be in order and may the real truth prevail.
Is the image at 20:16 John or David? I've seen it or a picture of David in a similar pose attributed to David before.