The issue i have with butterfly is that you focus your entire run around it and what you get in return is essentially equivalent to one decent boon from chaos on most weapons..
I think that's underselling it. It's more like a free ×4/×5 pressure points because it boosts the damage of literally anything with no RNG attached, while it still stacks with PP.
@@Noasphere Getting through Tartarus without taking damage (excluding the bossfight) will get you a long way and is pretty manageable. It does favour ranged weapons, of course.
Did a Pierced Butterfly run with Eris and Dio on the attack. Thought it was a meme, but that damage don't lie, and that was even without getting the Duos with Ares and Aphrodite.
5:43 I'm pretty sure the guy in chat was referencing that song Summer Girls, where the chorus starts "New Kids on the Block had a buncha hits", but I think that went over his head
Very impressive. I have a dozen Perfect Clears, including 3 in a row twice with all different weapons while darkness farming, but I have never done it with EM4. Thanks for the great content. I need to try a Than keepsake run soon
Huh. I'm usually picking chiron bow when doing a butterfly run, but this seems good too. I might try this one day, only problem is my leveled rail aspect is eris, not hestia, so it might take me a hot minute to get there in terms of titan blood.
Here's how I'd change butterfly to make it feel more worthwhile - if you get a streak of cleared Chambers, the bonus increases slightly for each, so by the time you're on say 10 straight clears it's up to a max of say 5% a chamber. Make it so that if you're hit you lose the streak, but you don't lose the accumulated %
This makes me think: on my steam deck I have bound "release press" on the attack button (X) to right trigger press so I can fire and reload in one button press for Hestia. Is that cheating?
I've just started watching some Hades videos on TH-cam after avoiding them for the longest time. I didn't want to spoil anything before I had beaten the game. Now, I've only beaten Hades about a dozen times and I have so much more to do. I had set the game down to play Zelda: TotK but after seeing the 64 Heat stuff and dipping into some of the comments and having all the terminology go over my head im l'm itching to get back into Hades. How much should I continue to try to unlock on my own before I start looking for guides and tips from the community?
Honestly half the fun is figuring things out on your own, see what feels good, etc. Once I figured out my style/ fave weapons/etc. it really helped to look at what others were doing, especially learning more about boons & hammers less intuitive stuff, and advice on builds
Hestia just does a lot of damage if you reload between each shot, that's all really. Obviously the Than keepsake helped eventually but not a lot early on.
High Confidence, family favourite, and Shadow Presence are doing a lot, bringing it up to ~295 damage if my math is right. Idk how he got the extra 13 damage to reach 307 though
Also i bought hades on a steam sale and it is currently my fav game, can't believe i slept on it. Stoked you are still making content as i am cycling through your stuff atm
This is the same guy that is against using mamas flowers lol when with a little finagling you can get a free 4 poms on your lynchpin attack or special depending on build it's a value engine and is not a win more in my opinion especially if you go out of your way for encounters . Ive done the math comparisons and if you work arround the randombess and use boon purges its bonkers
The issue i have with butterfly is that you focus your entire run around it and what you get in return is essentially equivalent to one decent boon from chaos on most weapons..
I think that's underselling it. It's more like a free ×4/×5 pressure points because it boosts the damage of literally anything with no RNG attached, while it still stacks with PP.
It's fun to have that option. And it's good practice as well 🙂
I vastly prefer Hermes’ lambent plume. It makes it easy to get Rush Delivery and you get dodge chance to boot.
@@dariussonofjazzlin7433 "free"
@@Noasphere Getting through Tartarus without taking damage (excluding the bossfight) will get you a long way and is pretty manageable. It does favour ranged weapons, of course.
classic hestia rail - goes great until zag starts targeting green vases in Dad fight
Its still great but your mald level increases with each shot
30:16 these movements were insane
Damn, the only time i got Perfect Clear I used Lightning Rod and hid behind the pillar the entire time.
Did a Pierced Butterfly run with Eris and Dio on the attack. Thought it was a meme, but that damage don't lie, and that was even without getting the Duos with Ares and Aphrodite.
5:43 I'm pretty sure the guy in chat was referencing that song Summer Girls, where the chorus starts "New Kids on the Block had a buncha hits", but I think that went over his head
Very impressive. I have a dozen Perfect Clears, including 3 in a row twice with all different weapons while darkness farming, but I have never done it with EM4. Thanks for the great content. I need to try a Than keepsake run soon
Jesus Dan go have a beer you deserve one
What a hades fight
Huh. I'm usually picking chiron bow when doing a butterfly run, but this seems good too. I might try this one day, only problem is my leveled rail aspect is eris, not hestia, so it might take me a hot minute to get there in terms of titan blood.
Perfect clear on EM4 is nuts.
This was really fun to watch. I’ll have to try a pierced butterfly run
Here's how I'd change butterfly to make it feel more worthwhile - if you get a streak of cleared Chambers, the bonus increases slightly for each, so by the time you're on say 10 straight clears it's up to a max of say 5% a chamber. Make it so that if you're hit you lose the streak, but you don't lose the accumulated %
1:20 I did an Arthur run with Artemis on attack and Hermes pulling wingman duty for speed? Good LORD
That last phase was really intense. Ggs!
This makes me think: on my steam deck I have bound "release press" on the attack button (X) to right trigger press so I can fire and reload in one button press for Hestia.
Is that cheating?
That really works? Damn.
It does work. I also have a back button bound to dash then attack after a half second delay so I can dash strike with one button...
I mean...no lmao, you're not competing with anyone. Everyone with a steam deck can do it so like yk not a big deal lol
2:28 so why did he picked aphrodite for attack instead of artemis (crit)? can someone explain?
Great use of the call during Hades
I've just started watching some Hades videos on TH-cam after avoiding them for the longest time. I didn't want to spoil anything before I had beaten the game. Now, I've only beaten Hades about a dozen times and I have so much more to do. I had set the game down to play Zelda: TotK but after seeing the 64 Heat stuff and dipping into some of the comments and having all the terminology go over my head im l'm itching to get back into Hades.
How much should I continue to try to unlock on my own before I start looking for guides and tips from the community?
Honestly half the fun is figuring things out on your own, see what feels good, etc. Once I figured out my style/ fave weapons/etc. it really helped to look at what others were doing, especially learning more about boons & hammers less intuitive stuff, and advice on builds
What is that meg ability you are using?
how do you unload all of the rail's ammo with one shots??
Aspect of Hestia
I am fairly new to the game. How is he doing this much dmg this early in the run with the hestia rail?
Hestia just does a lot of damage if you reload between each shot, that's all really. Obviously the Than keepsake helped eventually but not a lot early on.
High Confidence, family favourite, and Shadow Presence are doing a lot, bringing it up to ~295 damage if my math is right. Idk how he got the extra 13 damage to reach 307 though
21:36 that editing lmfao
wich aspect of the rail is this ?
Hestia
What controller is he talking about? I can't seem to find the time code -_-
The brand is Thrustmaster
that was fucking sick
Those were really well-timed calls gd.
Now do a mom pom only run with beowulf+trippy flare
What controller was he talking about?
The brand is Thrustmaster
Dayum, that boss fight was tense !!
YO YOU KNOW ZACH HILL?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Also i bought hades on a steam sale and it is currently my fav game, can't believe i slept on it. Stoked you are still making content as i am cycling through your stuff atm
Damn im never this early.
This is the same guy that is against using mamas flowers lol when with a little finagling you can get a free 4 poms on your lynchpin attack or special depending on build it's a value engine and is not a win more in my opinion especially if you go out of your way for encounters . Ive done the math comparisons and if you work arround the randombess and use boon purges its bonkers