Peppermint OS 11 Review: A different approach to the lightweight distro
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- Peppermint OS has proven to be a fantastic Linux distribution with a different approach to saving system resources compared to other lightweight distros. Peppermint 11 improves on many existing features and introduces a few new ones, such as the Peppermint Hub. It also utilizes a new Debian base that promises to offer a stable platform to continue building on.
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Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro & Overview
1:00 Now based on Debian
1:41 Included apps & Peppermint Welcome
6:47 Web apps using Ice
10:23 Peppermint Hub settings manager
12:09 A few quirks
14:50 Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I really like the "choose your programs after installing the OS" approach. Not only is it practical for, well, choosing specifically which program the user wants, but also guarantees that that software is updated right out of the box.
That’s a great point about the software being updated straight away; I hadn’t considered that. It really does save a lot of time compared to having a giant batch of updates immediately after install.
Thank You for your well versed and honest presentation.
Your time taken to bring this to an audience is much appreciated.
KsW
Thank you!! Glad to see it’s appreciated!
Decided that the typo in the thumbnail has been up long enough...finally fixed it. Thanks for all the soup and sandwich related comments in the meantime!
An awesome tour of Peppermint! Thanks very much.
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Really fair review, nice work. Your feedback is most appreciated ✌️
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.
11:19 Hardware & Software -> on right side of Peppermint Hub, second from top is Pulse Audio volume settings icon/button. So, if XFCE doesn't include it in control manager, Peppermint makes it in their Hub.
Thanks, I hadn’t noticed that.
@@PlanetLinuxChannel 😉
Again- the PERFECT reveiw... THANKS..
Thank you!
Great video bro.. awesome
Thanks!
Tks for mentioning the text contrast issue. I have low vision, and default color choices in Peppermint are very hard to read. I love the distro though.👍
Same here!
Well done ...
Nice review. 👍
Maybe, try to talk about kernel version and system resources (ram, cpu) it's using.
And compare to other XFCE based distros so we can get a good idea.
Thanks, and a very good idea. I’ll keep that in mind!
A good lightweight bistro is what I’m looking for. Somewhere for a nice sandwich or soup.
My first thought: “Oh I think that’s a typo in his comment.”
Second thought: “Oh, he’s making a joke playing on the word distro!
Third thought: (checks video details) “Title is fine…OH MY THUMBNAIL!!!
I’ll get right on that, though I kind of like the comedic effect.
I wouldn't change a thing. It gets attention!!!
Maybe I’ll keep it around for just a bit longer. 😀
I've just installed Peppermint on my laptop, replacing Manjaro KDE on that machine. I do notice an improvement in speed, as my Manjaro install on that machine ran at 1.4 to 1.6 of the 4 GiB of RAM available while Peppermint uses less than 700 M. However, I'm getting some weird error messages during startup on my Lenovo G50, and I just can't really warm to XFCE.
The theming is all over the place: LibreOffice doesn't really accept the dark theme, nor do many GTK apps. Flatpaks tend to do their own thing anyway, so we might ignore them on that count.
Not much of my criticism is really directed at Peppermint, though, but rather at XFCE. I find it quite inconsistent and often confusing -and I've used it at work for many a long year.
The modular nature of XFCE must make it quite difficult, but I wish XFCE devs spent more attention to that consistency thing.
Yeah, I love the ideas that Peppermint implements, but I agree that XFCE itself does seem a bit disjointed at times. Also not having great out-of-the-box support for input / output settings through the GUI. The inconsistent theming does really bug me!
Question. 32-bit support is included, right? I have an old 32-bit Atom desktop "pizza box" from MSI that was pretty nice with Linux Mint, but that was 2014. I like the Peppermint theme and desktop environment, so I was wondering if this would be a good solution for me.
This pizza box computer has 2GB system memory, a base generic probably Intel graphics system on board, and no expansion except via USB 2.0.
Nice light system, runs on a laptop power supply even.
That does sound like a nice little machine!
Unfortunately it looks like Peppermint only supports 64-bit (which is weird considering it’s based on Debian which still has 32-bit-support).
A couple alternatives that might be worth trying are Q4OS, MX Linux, or AntiX.
Oh no! I thought it did support 32-bit!
@@redfonzie21 I did too. I thought I’d double check before replying and was surprised as well. Sorry about that.
We, I'm downloading Linux Mint Debian, it looks like. Maybe I can find a nice theme to skin everything similarly.
Best of luck! Is there a certain theme aesthetic you’re looking to achieve?
Thank you. I am using a desktop PC with Peppermint os. Do you know how to adjust the screen brightness?
If your keyboard has brightness keys, they should work (you may have to press them along with the Fn key).
If I recall correctly, the power / battery applet on the panel should have a screen brightness slider. If you don’t see the icon on the panel, you can right click a blank space on the panel, then under Panel, select Add New Items. In there should be the Power Manager Plug-In that you can add.
Let me know if this helps.
@@PlanetLinuxChannel Thank you. I have the XFCE Power Management plug in. It was installed with Peppermint os by default. It just doesn't not have a brightness controller. I suspect from the backend brightness control is disabled because it is not a laptop. I don't have function keys on my keyboard like a laptop. It is very unfortunate.
Hmmm, you could try using xrandr from the terminal to see if setting that to 1.0 (maximum) helps. In a terminal, run “xrandr -q” (without quotes) to check the name of your display (might be something like LVDS-1). Then run “xrandr --output display-name --brightness 1.0” (the brightness value is between 0.0 for the lowest / off and 1.0 for maximum).
in your opinion what distro is best for first time user..thanks very interresting..what about graphics
So many distros offer everything a new user would need, so a lot of them will come down to preference. Linux Mint or Zorin OS offer an interface layout similar to Windows if that’s your thing. Ubuntu is pretty good overall so long as you can get used to its interface (which is GNOME, and is used by some other distros as well).
Regarding graphics, I presume you’re referring to graphics cards or their drivers? Most modern AMD Radeon cards are great as their open-source drivers are included in pretty much all distros. As for NVIDIA, you’ll need to download the proprietary drivers. Most distros either include a driver utility oro get them, or you can try searching the Software centre or even NVIDIA’s website as a last resort. Linux Mint has a Driver Manager program that will detect what driver your card needs and let you install. Zorin and most other Ubuntu-based distros will have a Software & Updates program or something similar which has a Drivers tab.
Distros do include open-source NVIDIA drivers, but they’re REALLY bad (NVIDIA doesn’t really help contribute to them so people have had to attempt to reverse engineer them). So you’ll definitely want to grab the proprietary NVIDIA ones if you’re using one of their cards.
If I had to pick one way or the other, I’d say AMD Radeon cards play a little nicer overall and you don’t have to install any additional drivers.
Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any additional questions.
@@PlanetLinuxChannel very nice of you to explain..understand now alot..thank you again.gonna try linux mint first..
Happy to help. Good luck!
Im looking for something to replace GalliumOS. I might give this a try.
I think it’s certainly worth a try. Perhaps also consider Zorin OS Lite, Linux Lite, or MX Linux.
I'd like to know if the DEVUAN version is any better-- or just "different" since it has NO systemd...
I didn’t realize there was a Devuan version. I suspect that boot up and shutdown might be a bit faster, but I’d have to look into it.
@@PlanetLinuxChannel I ran it on VENTOY for a few hours and honestly couldn't see any difference between it and the regular version at all.. OR any other devuan --- the regular devuan either..
I really don't understand what can do ICE for the en user. I see no use for my own use.
I think the main benefit would be if you tend to use a lot of web apps and portals already-things like Google Drive, Office Online, any sort of server or NAS access through a browser, even web-based games. Really any sort of “app” that you’d normally have to load through a normal browser tab, Ice lets you integrate it into the main app menu and load in its own dedicated window for faster access and a more “native program” experience.
Whether or not that sort of thing is actually beneficial for someone would definitely depend on your workflow and which programs / websites you use.
Also, while not a bistro, Domino's Pizza has great sandwiches and some really good deals online right now.
*I deliver!*
Domino’s IS delicious! Though I can make a pretty good bet that I’m not close enough for delivery.
I’ve been pondering how long I should wait to change that (though it did go 4 hours before I noticed it).
Did someone say mead (2:02)? It is quite delicious I must say. Hmm, I do enjoy Ice to cool down. 2:30 hm I wonder what your password is that is 4 characters long. A distro that is pack full of food. It could be just my eyes but that font color looks more dark orange than apple red like the logo and background.
Thanks for the comment and thoughts! At 2:02, I certainly don’t hear “mead” no matter how hard I try to hear it. The quote said “need” and that’s what I hear myself saying.
Regarding my password, I’ll give you a hint: it’s four characters and not very secure. 😁
Depending on the screen, the font colour does look like a slightly orange-red.
Siri I do and I use Gmail as well and there is yet from what I can see a decent Gmail compatible 100% compatible client on Linux for Gmail by using Web wrapper with an icon created as a shortcut illuminate to be for an actual client
i hate this version the last version was the best where can i download the old version?
Is this what you’re looking for? peppermintos.com/2019/12/peppermint-10-respin-released/
So do I it clearly isn't intended for the basic former windows user who doesn't have a lot of computer knowledge.
I'm using peppermint 10 but will move to Linux Mint rather than P11.
@@johns3421 Linux Mint is always a good choice. Any particular reasons you dislike Peppermint 11?
@@PlanetLinuxChannel As I said it seems more intended for people who have a knowledge of computers unlike me for whom a computer is merely a means to an end. Been using Peppermint since version 5 updating to the next release as they appeared and for me Peppermint 10 was ideal.
I found it quite amusing to see the comment regarding a browser not pre-installed that this gave a user the choice to pick there own but on the contrary it allowed the user to select from a selection the developer had chosen and my choice Brave wasn't one of them!
If Peppermint 11 had merely improved on what was there already I would have continued using it. The old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it" seems appropriate.
Fair point. It definitely does feel like a departure from their previous direction.
From all Linux'sthis is Top stupid not working Linux ! Many many problems absolutely nightmare
There certainly has been a lot of displeasure with these later releases of Peppermint. What kind of issues are you having?
@@PlanetLinuxChannel Resolution not working was first problem , if resolution is changed is just black screen , rotation not working on asus with touch screen , if rotation is changed the mouse orientation is same position not like screen lag and don't want to close some windows , of is not installed browser after that all options are not available , nany different options in therminal and can't install chromium or opera or brave , after two time black screen after restart just for me will be removed immediately... Elementary OS was ok , Ubuntu was ok , Linux mint was ok , Chromium Os 50/50 and from all windows is best :( for now Peppermint is not good.
Device is with 4 gb ram and all working ok just i tested different OS
@@interiorbadges5964 Well, sorry to hear that. Fortunately there are plenty of other options as you’ve mentioned.
I have a problem , when I give "suspend system" after resuming the system I have a black screen
lenovo y50-70 i5 i use the built-in intel card
please tell me how to fix it?
[ 34.492213] freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds) done.
[ 34.493867] OOM killer disabled.
[ 34.493877] freezing remaining freezable tasks ... (elapsed 0.000 seconds) done.
[ 34.494915] prinkt: suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)
That’s an interesting one. Perhaps one of the solutions on this page might help as Peppermint is Debian-based now: forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=149965&ssp=1&darkschemeovr=1&setlang=en-CA&safesearch=off