Vanilla OS Deep Dive: It Runs Everything! (and Q&A Update)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- It's not often that a new Linux distribution comes along with such a radical approach to creating the ideal operating system, but Vanilla OS sure gives it a good try. From providing an immutable multi-root system that ensures updates run successfully to running just about any type of Linux app package format, thanks to containers, Vanilla OS could very much be the stepping stone towards a whole new era for the Linux desktop--one where a stable system and support for all types of packages is commonplace. But is Vanilla OS there yet? Or is this still just a pipe dream?
Chapters:
0:00 Vanilla OS: Great Setup Experience!
3:05 Vanilla GNOME with some nice additions
6:02 APX installs anything and everything!
11:23 Graphical Software installation issues
13:13 Vanilla OS' future and development
15:47 It's great for users willing to open a terminal
17:19 Q&A - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Really good video about a distro that looks really interesting, wouldn't have known about it otherwise. Talked about a lot of key features and what sets it apart, but also makes it similar. Your videos deserve a lot more attention!
Glad you found the video interesting! I have to agree that the channel could always use more attention 😀 but I suppose that’s up to viewers and the almighty TH-cam to decide.
I HAVE to say-- This is without doubt THE best review of a new distro I have EVER seen. YOu VERY CEARLY explain the new stuff-- and how it fits with the previous versions- as well as how to USE all of it.... I've NEVER SEEN a review that I could understand as well as this one. I'm OLDER and stuff in most of the reviews I see on here goes whizzing by as the guys make the cursor fly all over the place at high speed without saying anything relevant...and I just don't get much from any of the others AT ALL. YOU could actually make COURSES for these things--- so professionally done and EXACT-- but SIMPLE at the same time.... GREAT JOB!!!! Maybe you could make a COURSE on HOW TO DO A PROPER REVIEW for the rest of these guys on here... :)
Thank you for the kind words! I’m glad you found the video clear and helpful! I’ve been going back and forth experimenting with longer and shorter video formats, but do always try to make them clear and easy to understand.
I do certainly enjoy doing reviews and tutorials, and probably could create some sort of Linux course with enough time. As for other reviewers, everyone has their own style and I certainly can’t question it if they have 10 or 100 times the following that I do. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a place for my videos. :) It’s great to hear that people appreciate them and I hope this corner of the Linux community will continue to grow!
@@PlanetLinuxChannel It's not JUST the length-- it's the CLARITY. Many reviews have the mouse cursor flitting all over the place so fast you can't see what they did- and they're RAMBLING of all kinds of stuff not related. They just don't know how to PRESENT properly like YOU do. KEEP UP the GREAT JOB!!!!
That makes sense. Thanks! And glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the video. Gonna install this on my new intel NUC, and oh yeah, I subbed❤
Glad you liked it, and thanks for the sub!
If they already knew these issues with Ubuntu as a base from the beginning, why didn't they choose Debian from the start? I'll wait until they release Vanilla 2.0.
That’s a great question. I’m not certain, but my guess would be that the initial version of Vanilla OS had been in development for quite a long time, so they probably didn’t feel there were as many issues at the time.
Or perhaps Ubuntu provided an easier base to start working with-it includes a bit more that’s already set up out-of-the-box that users may need anyways than Debian does, so they may have figured it would save them some time or effort.
This is much appreciated and very thorough. I was leaning towards Blend OS but Vanilla seems to have better implementation.
I suppose that’s up her to personal preference. It seems that Blend OS has you directly use each respective package manager, compared to Vanilla OS implementing each into their own single manager. More well-integrated in Vanilla, but something extra that needs to be learned.
Vanilla OS has been a beast for me over the past year or close to year
Nice! I hadn’t realized they’ve been putting out releases for that long. But glad to hear it’s been working well for you! It certainly has a lot of potential going forward.
Salutations, esteemed Planet Linux, I humbly assert that this presentation possesses a length that mirrors the verbose nature of this communication. I commence this commentary by expressing my curiosity regarding your biographical information's potential for revision. With due respect, it appears implausible for one to remain an IT student for an extended duration without interruption. Furthermore, I would like to inquire if the existence of a Vanilla OS implies the presence of a Chocolate or Strawberry OS, or if these are mere flavors of this Linux distribution. As far as my understanding goes, this distribution's exclusion of components from Ubuntu stems from the Linux community's proclivity to avoid Ubuntu and its associated components, such as the snap package, perhaps indicating a desire to distance themselves. Upon observing your affinity for Demi music in the Q&A section, I found it to be a fascinating revelation indeed.
This was definitely a longer video. I do plan on many of my future videos being more concise and to-the-point. (I have done a few shorter ones in the past, but haven’t been able to make up my mind on a video style.)
I really should update the About section for the channel, though I do still consider myself a student of IT as I am always learning more about it (I’m currently enrolled in an online Salesforce admin course).
I’ve not heard of a Chocolate or Strawberry OS, but with the vast number of distros out there, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were.
My understanding is that the Vanilla OS team doesn’t really have anything against Snaps-rather they may just be more difficult to implement as a subsystem of the immutable core of Vanilla OS and to get working with the multi-root system for package updates. They have said they’re looking to add support for Snaps in the future.
My taste in music is definitely quite broad, with my library only having a couple Demi songs (that’s just what played most recently on shuffle). I like just about any modern pop and 70s / 80s classic rock (yeah that’s quite a weird variety!)
Thanks for the thoughtful comment as always! I always appreciate your engagement on these videos!
I have a question you might be able to answer-- since this is gnome based- can one put POP TILING SHELL EXTENSION ON IT?? It's for any gnome it says. I couldn't stang gnome before but am beginning to see it's benefits.. as I learn more.
Forgive the ignorance, but would you be able to install a window manager like i3 or DWM to this?
Good question! Theoretically it should be possible, though you’d have to access the core root system to do it, which arguably defeats the point of an immutable system like this. If the desired window manager is in the repos, then I THINK it’d be something like “sudo abroot exac apt install package-name” which bypasses the container system and installs directly to the base system.
Currently the devs don’t recommend installing other desktops / window managers, but they have indicated they’re working on a minimal version that would come without a desktop (presumably you could add your own) as well as an official KDE flavour. They seem to have frequent discussion and development updates on their Discord: discord.com/servers/vanilla-os-1023243680829681704
A thing that i hope will be easier on Vanilla OS is upgrading to a new python version. In standard Ubuntu upgrading to the latest python version (3.12 for example) can break your gnome desktop..
Hmm, I don’t know. It does seem that it might be easier due to the immutable core system, unless Python is one of those core packages. Still, having the atomic AB-Root system should at least be able to protect from an upgrade breaking everything-it would just roll the system bark prior to the upgrade.
Can it run Fusion 360 cad system by Autodesk?
As Fusion 360 is only made for macOS and Windows, you can’t run it natively on Linux. But it sounds like it might be able to run the Windows version through WINE (you could try installing an app called Bottles which makes it easy to install and run many Windows apps on Linux.
@@PlanetLinuxChannel thanks
A Dell XPS 13 Plus I bought recently was broken by a Canonical Ubuntu update. Couldn't restore because of Dell incompetence. Rather than spend a lot of time reinstalling Canonical, I installed Debian 12. I also recently installed Vanilla OS on an HP Envy. I am impressed in both cases.
Does Vanilla OS run games good?
The hardware I was testing it on was just a laptop with integrated Intel graphics, so I wasn’t able to test many games. The few other people I’ve seen talk about it though have said they don’t notice much, if any, performance hit, and everything (at least on Steam / Proton) seems to run fine.
@@PlanetLinuxChannel alright, thank you! I plan to run this as my first linux distro once I build my pc. Ty very much!
You’re very welcome! Linux Mint and Zorin OS are also great first options. Best of luck!
You should add except KDE to the title. Lol (or any other DE aside from gnome)
Very true! Though they are working on a KDE flavour along with a minimal version that would be just the base system (that you could presumably add whichever desktop you want to). Hopefully that’ll come sooner rather than later!
Worthless!
That depends what you want out of a distro / OS.
He has no clue..Look back has he done Gentoo or Arch no because he's a simple human with little between his ears
I cover the type of topics that I do because it's what the most people seem to be the most interested in, and is often considered the most helpful. There are so many people that are interested in Linux or newcomers to it that want to explore the various desktops and distros that they can easily pick up and start using.
If you'd like to see more content about Arch or Gentoo, I'll certainly try to make time to cover them at some point.