Orcs: Blood Bowl 3 Official Race Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2024
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Recorded Jan 2023
Here is my Orc Race Guide for Blood Bowl 3.
Blood Bowl is a Warhammer Games Workshop fantasy take on American football (NFL). It is set in the Warhammer universe and is played by Orcs, Elves, Humans and all manner of Chaos factions. I am AndyDavo and have been playing the game for over 10 years. Please sit back and enjoy my take on Blood Bowl 3.
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Great guide! I feel orcs got significantly buffed with getting the move 5 of Big'Un Blockers. I really liked your explanation of the setups!
Thank you! I hope these help people get to grips with bb3
Aamzing guide, Andy. Thanks for these!
I think Goblins are underrated. I’ve had a lot of success with 1 and sometimes 2 goblins.
The nicest part about being a goblin coach is that win or lose it's never your fault
Really nice guide there, particularly liked the set up tactics as I always struggle with that part.
Great guide, thank you
Thank u for so detailed guide!
Thanks, very helpful!
Awesome Guide Andy
Your skills suggestions helped me personally so a big thanks there, but your formations really hit home for me and are going straight in my playbook!
Delighted you get value from these
Another great video. Keep them up.
Thank you very much!!
I'll be honest, I like goblins. I tend to use them as my ball carrier because of dodge and stunty. I hate the thrower and have never had any luck with him. But then again that's just my preference. Really enjoy the video, they are quite helpful
Thank you for sharing.
I appreciate the fact that you use the category colorization option for skill icons, as any self-respecting BB player probably should. The default color scheming for skill icons is all over the damn place.
Smart telling us who you are. I subscribed right away.
I'm going to defend using a blitzer as a ball carrier a bit, but not because of the extra movement. Sure throwers start with sure hands which of course gives them a nice start as ball carrier, but that's a general skill so you can pretty quickly give that to a blitzer. And more importantly, blitzers start with block and have agility as a secondary skill. So what you can do (and what I just did) is grab sure hands, then save up spp (which you'll be getting quickly if they're your ball carrier) and get yourself dodge. Now you have a blodge ball carrier, which is a fucking nightmare to deal with, they have 3 strength so most characters are doing 1 die blocks without an assist. So they essentially have to roll a 6 to knock you down with only 1 pow on the die. And if you're forming cages, they may even have to do 2 die uphill, which pretty much guarantees that they won't be knocking you down unless they get a double pow.
yes, this is all true. I just like the blitzer on the outside of the cage doing stuff. taking block and stand firm.....being a menace
This guide is top notch. I feel I am playing way better with Orc and in general because of the details on what to pick, why to pick and formations layout.
Thank you kindly!
TY!
Andy, just a thought on the TH-cam video, it might be good if, after you have described the various ways a player could be developed, you could have a summary sheet depicting the skills and the order. For example orc goblin: throw team mate goblin - ag+, Ma+, SF, Sprint, Catch. Fouling Goblin - dirty player, sneaky git
This would let viewers take a screen shot of the summary page for each player/ positional and refer back to it whilst playing.
The only issue is there is no way of making a custom player to show it, but it is a good idea :-)
Love the idea
whoa whoa whoa do YOU know who I am? Cheers Andy another nice one!
I hated doing that. But context was needed
First BB3 Orks game following your guide. I buyed the chainsaw mercenary to balance against the Chaos Renegade I was facing. First roll, I attacked his minotaure - Dead - Apothecary - Dead. Opponent concede and I won enough to buy me a Troll.
That balance my very first game with Imperials when I rolled double skull reroll double skull ... But I rolled low on the armor test too :)
Orc are always my favorite. Thanks Andy. I know this games not what we were hoping for but let hope it gets better. Blood bowl 2 deserves it
Literally every screen has worse ui than 2 and I liked 2’s music better 2. It’s not a dig in just expressing my pain. I’m really struggling to feel like I haven’t wasted $50 dollars and forever lost my ability to play a new amazing blood bowl 2. These parts hurt most because I don’t think they will change. Also making an ai league to play offline is painful. I too hope that changes. Let’s pray to our respective gods
@@davidbowman9917 you can only go up from here bud
@@Hawks282 God I hope so. The announcement about the leveling and season system seems to be saying that the whole earn currency by playing thing wasn't true. You earn a max of 1000 from leveling and then its whatever's in the season pass.
New to blood bowl and your videos have been a huge help! Favorite team is lizardmen, any tips you can give me? Keep the great videos coming you're awesome!
i think the argument around defensive is really strong, i have to save to take the rule
Great guide, time stamps would also be great. I'm really thorned on the defensive skill. It feels such a luxury buy compared to guard since well, it only works on DEF and against a player with guard. But I my try this on a table top tournament where people always max out (3) the guard skill, just for shock value.
Suppose you never wanna throw ever, is a line orc with Sure Hands better than a thrower? It might be more useful/versatile on defense, right?
What's your experience with Wrestle plus Jump up? Would Diving Tackle be a nice add-on to get most out of Jump Up? Do you often get rid of guard
What would be needed to make it work on a ball carrier?
It would be fun if it accepted a both down but got the ball back next round and be three movement ahead of his pursuer.
Thrower, in my book
Just so I don't have to search back every time one of my player get a level:
Troll: Block > Guard > Defensive > Pro
Blitzer: Mighty Blow > Tackle > Frenzy > Guard > Juggernaut
Big Un: Block > Mighty Blow > Guard > (2 Stand Firm / 2x Defensive)
Thrower: On The Ball > Leader > Block
:)
I think there is always a case to be made for throwing goblins, particularly if your opponent scores on turn 8 and you have one turn to score back. Whether or not it's worth trying to get +PA for that is another discussion.
There's a lot of dice to be rolled to be sure, but any OTTD has that issue.
Been reviewing this for my upcoming tabletop league game. Second ever league, first time ever with Orcs so this guide has been brilliant although I locked in 4 x Big un's, 4 x Blitzers and 3 x linemen with only 2 re-rolls before watching this video so will hopefully try the trash compactor method in my first game against a redrafted Chaos Renegade team.
I do have 245 in inducements to play with so do I go for bribes and keg or a star player (table top has more options)?
Hey Andy! Why not consider using a line orc as ball carrier? Same movement as the thrower, can't pass, but no animosity. This means he can get the ball to the blitzers without risk of him refusing to do so, and the blirzers are the ones you want scoring, not the thrower. Sure, you can start a team with a thrower, but as soon as you get 6ssp on a line orc you grab sure hands and fire the thrower. Just a thought.
Bit late to the party here but I’m always 50/50 on who is the ball carrier I win my first tournament with a blitzer ball carrier in bb2 when he had block dodge sidestep and plus movement he was a true menace until he died in the finals turn 14, I just don’t like the slow/weaker armour myself but it’s always a close call for me 😅
Ive got a 1.5 million black orc team. There seems to be alot of bugs in the game on release. That, said its fun. Ive got like 15-20 hours in it. One bug is skaven dont seem to ever lose dodge and evade tackle rolls. I had a skaven team literally miss 2 evade tackle rolls the whole game in 16 turns. He must have made like 50 or more evade tackles and lost 2! at least it felt that way. Like at one time i had 4 of my team around 1 of his skaven runners guys and he still ran through 4 trip rolls on my guys and then scored. Also, theres a bug where you cant switch your team on quickhatch for some reason. sometimes i can only play my black orc squad and cant change it. Also matchmaking has this thing where since my team is 1.5 million, anything the the opponent is below that they get to buy star players which is really OP against me lol. This one star player he had literally could run 10 tiles in one move (black orc move 4 tiles), no joke he a white human running back i think. On my team i got 6 black orcs i made the with block and guard mostly to buff my offense. I got one trained troll i think with guard and brawler also. Then i got 4 goblins to run the ball. I tried to get pass and catch on two of them but its just bad lol. Goblins cant pass further then 4 tiles so its useless lmao.
Thanks Andy for this great guide.
In your BB2 guide you said diving tackle a good on Black orc, but you didn't mention this skill here.
It's not good anymore ?
It's still solid, the first 3 skills are the core thou. I was trying to not list every skill possible
Wow you managed to actually run that ga,e. Congrats.
Skaven 😊
a great guide once again! 👊 Question about this: Is the troll only first choice if you want to throw your teammates? (otherwise get it later)
They are unreliable roadblocks.
So im looking at picking up Orcs as my first league team. Only 8-9 players in the league so shouldn't be too long.
With the First Roster as my base, do you think it's worth firing the Goblin if he survives game one and just using a journeyman Line Orc while I save up for other positions and Apo?
Yeah, they get Loner, but im gaining a free armor upgrade and just focus on SPP on different members of the team.
Still very new to Blood bowl, so trying to make sure I don't handicap myself with a "brilliant idea". But it seems like a decent trade.
Troll
Thrower
4xBig'Un
3xBlitzers
2xLinemen
2 Rerolls
3 MA 6 blitzers is enough for orks. We ain't about speed. ;) Get a "Leader" asap for that 3rd reroll...and of course hire that 4th blitzer!
Hi Andy, I love all your BB3 races guides. But I have one different question, How did you setup the BB3 client, that your colors haven't so high contrast.
I'm dizzy just to watch high contrast RED and BLUE in mine interface, but in your video those colors are toned down and ok.
Maybe you should make a proper BB3 client setup video.
In game options, graphics I think, then scroll down and mess with brightness
Putting Defensive on 4 or 5 players seems like overkill, given that it's a secondary skill for everyone except goblins. It's be +40k per model on anyone except goblins (as I can't imagine you'd be fishing for it by doing random agility skills), and twice as long to earn the SPP, which is a huge amount of bloat for a skill that doesn't work in your own turns.
It's not been shown on stream yet, just wait till it is
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl I've been playing this BB version since it came out in 2020 (and first played BB in the late 1980s). I'm 98% confident there's no way to make a team efficient if it's loading-up on Defensive at 40k per player. Non-Guard teams will relish the waste of your TV, and Guard teams will enjoy how they've been getting Guard for 20k each (or even 10k - random strength skills are viable for many players). Especially as Guard works in both friendly and opposing turns, and for fouls. I know defensive can potentially stop more than one Guard player at once, but it's very niche at the above costs. I think if I was forced to get agility secondaries on players, I'd be getting Dodge before Defensive. The only thing I'll very much concede, though, is that (as mentioned before) if you're putting it on Goblins maybe you're somehow getting it to work - but it still seems niche as Goblins are such a weak link when they have to site next to an ally and hope the Guard opponent hits the ally, not it. Surly the temptation is to give the Goblin something like Sprint instead, for those Throw Team Mate touchdowns. As the main weakness of the Orc team isn't that it gets bashed by Guard teams, but that it's very easy to slow down so much that it can't come back from being down on touchdowns.
@@mikefoster6018 if you foul at least 6 times a game with some good marking and assists with a dirty player git gobbo you'll most likely beat anyone you play against considering they are 110% the best fouler in the game cuz they can move in to tackle zones foul and jump out of there quickly with dodge and stunty built in automatically. No offense but Andy was the literal 2nd best player in the world at one point. I don't care if you have 40 years experience it means nothing if you aren't able to prove how good you are. 👍
After having my troll injuried for a match, I found out that 4x Big Un, 4x Blitz, 2x Lineman 1x Thrower is a pretty good roster. But maybe it was just because I faced a team without a big guy for that match.
Morgnthorg is a pain in the arse. Always double skulls. Gets knocked down by bloody goblins every time. Only ever had the odd game were he bashes anything decently
Sorry for being a noob but can you buy abilities when creating the team? I struggle to earn SP on my big uns. I score all my touchdowns with a goblin too.
No. U need to hand the ball to them. Watch on twitch, I'm doing orcs now
If ure playing the first roster, what types of player are u aiming to buy next?
Thrower, apo, troll
Instead of bribes, isn't it cheaper to get a bunch of spare goblins?
(And later get sneaky git and dirty player on some of them)
Or maybe even use line orcs for this instead?
Instead of using cash on temporary boosts, you could even gamble for nice random upgrades and recycle any failed ones. Do you ever do that?
Personal opinion, coming from bb2: bribes are always nice because u can foul with anyone pretty safely. Goblins are just an indentation in a solid armor: they lower strength and resilience. You want a dirty lino because he can resist easily hits and still do his job.
this game has taken a beating on steam reviews
It is but its already a lot better since the last patch
what is the recommended skill order for the orc thrower? I got a bit lost at that part, do I fish for the characteristic first? or do I get the passing skills first?
Hi Joe, you have 4 possible paths, so pick according to play style
1. Take block. He gets into a scrap you need protection.
2. Take passing skills. You wanna be an elf
3. Take a stat. You never get hit and win loads
4. Take on the ball, get him close to your team.
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl Cool thanks, apparently I want him to be an elf.
What does it mean by anti-2 turns? Like there are 2 turns left?
as in you socred on T7 and they have 2 turns to score an equaliser
Pls pls pls do my babies the dwarves soon 😭😭
They will be up in the next 6 days :)
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl looooove youuuuu
Can you do Chaos Chosen next??
I think you’ll be happy tomorrow
Your wish....
Hello! Can you show us how to make a league for myself and two friends with 3 ai opponents? Thanks!
I'm not sure you can currently , the league tools are a bit fcuked right now
Defensive! ❤❤❤
/Hyperbrain
Nurgle suck.
How do you feel about Characteristic increases on Blitzers?
Yea, decent, it adds a bit to them. Didnt I cover that?
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl I think you missed it.
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl Thanks for the quick reply.
How soon until we see some Blood Bowl 3 gameplay on the Tube?
Once all the guides are done
I thought that Andy would be waiting for the game to stop cracking, crashing and until it is playable.
@@dambrooks7578 it's very playable, played 12 games over thursday and friday with no issues.
End of the guide vids
@@bendavy1816 as I have never played the game I am merely repeating what all the people that have done so said they were experiencing.
Love the comment of the thrower 150%. Spot on....
leaving them dwarves for last :(
They may never get done. Such is my disdain for them....
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl wait is that cause they are terrible or good? Lol
Orcs are the best but i wonder why you didnt say that they are your favorit team? 😂
They have a shit blitzer on the team right now. Not naming names or anything.....
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl hey last time i saw him he was the best blitzer of the team but maybe u didnt saw it because of the many skills he has 😅
Don't think you need to explain yourself Andy but think that'll shut em up lol
:)
These guides took me from wanting to get a refund to 80% w/l
... but.. but.. but... Mighty Blow first lvls faster... ;)
I love the troll cause he is cheap and generally crappy enough that you just leave him alone to do his job of standing but you can make him OK with one assist when you need to do something with him.
Its not official though, is it?
Sure it is.
From what I see here is that you really cannot use the old Orc team box for the 2020 rules set to build a viable team, right? No more Black Orcs, missing Big Uns and Gobbos, etc...
I have not bought a orc team for table top so I can't say. You can easily buy a 3rd party one with everything thou
Orc throwers make me sad
first
lol
5th edition is the actual name of what was released in 2020 Andy 🙄
2020, second season sir
@@AndyDavoBloodBowl is the 5th edition of the Blood Bowl rules, that title discounts all previous editions of the game since the 1980s, which is incredibly strange as Games Workshop are happily celebrating that the next edition of 40k will be the 10th edition of the rules. That was something that I began playing in the earlier 90s compared to Blood Bowl, when 40k released 2nd edition, ergo the current rules for the edition of Blood Bowl release is the 5th edition, regardless of whatever title the game is given.
Love blood bowl but not touching this third version atrocity
Just wait 6 months and check back
I hope they fix the game, its so buggy and poorly made
It’s a lot better since the last patch.
Post paych it's much improved