@@homomanify this is you seeing what you want because your entire personality is hatred. If Elon was what you claim he's been a billionaire for a long time. He had no need to hide it.
@@thelovejoyshow568 where was that boot before now? Oh, on Biden's foot. Where was it during Trump's 1st term? Oh, Obama still had it on. Y'all just make up stuff to be nad about.
No he did nothing wrong, we only imagine it and want to expect better from government. How dare us care instead of all going out and throwing up our hands in similar salutes and going heil Muskler.
I've been giving Elon the benefit of doubt over the years, but this overt Nazi salute made me lose all trust and respect for Elon. Regardless of his true deep down beliefs and desires, he performed a gesture of extreme hate and evil twice. If he just got caught up in the moment and didn't intend to do a sieg heil, he should apologize and make it clear he didn't intent to do a Nazi salute. But since he did it intentionally and believes he didn't do anything wrong, he won't apologize.
So we’re to believe Elon is extremely smart but too awkward to know exactly what that gesture is when he’s done it before. He knows what it is and doesn’t care. Disgusting.
All this Orwell quoting is Hilarious.... Where were you Orwell fans the last 5 years...? Or 10 years? Hope you ALL support Snowden if you really don't want to live in 1984. How about all the censorship ? I'll give him a pass for this... because atleast he exposed Twitter for the CIA/leftist government propaganda tool that it was. I guess this is his way of promoting freedom of speech maybe? To do sumthin that's completely legal but genrally frowned upon.
@@HasselDaHoff25 Correct way? LOL!! He is not standing at attention, his arm is outstretched more to his side, not in front of him and the words going along with this gesture obviously means he is just throwing his love and thanks to the people.
The ADL attacked the Jewish Voice for Peace movement for what it claimed to be antisemitism... They lost nearly all credibility before this, now it's completely gone
I will say it like this.. if he did this in Germany.. he would be arrested on the spot. Not saying he didn't mean to show a "Hitlergruß"... not saying he did... all i know is what it looks like and what the consequences would be for him if he did it in Germany (or Austria). He would 100% be arrested and taken to jail and prosecuted for it.
Not excusing him, I’m curious because I don’t know: I thought the natzi gesture started with a closed fist on the chest and a direct hand out in front.. usually with feet thumped together? (Maybe I watched to much ‘sound of music’). It looks like musk has open palm on chest and is more to the right of his body but looking directly at his hand. Like he half dabbed without the head down or was gazing into the future horizon. It does look intentional but I’m trying to keep a cautiously open mind as a someone who doesn’t support trump at all. I’m aware my bias against trump 😂.
Yeah I keep hearing that but that's being too nice. He's talked about what he believes way before this. Look up his parents. People need to start listening to what people are saying instead of just hearing them. This is so blatant and it should have been to people.
Because the salute may have looked "Nazi" but theres nothing Nazi or Fascist about Elon, Trump or Maga the left just got lucky he did that so they can go on and on about it on theyre news.
@@pamelaolson5614 except they have verbally supported neo nazis in the past, and if you think it looks like Nazi it's definitely Nazi especially if you look side by side to a neo nazi salute it's not a gesture you make unless purposefully and if you think it's socially appropriate do it in Germany see how well that works for ya, just keep making excuses for the people who have no care for the people they should
If he had done that here in Germany he would have been arrested.Showing the Nazi salute is a criminal offense in our country and can be punished with up to three years in prison (§ 130 StGB).No joke, so don't do that ...
Sadly some Americans have in Germany and winds up bad for them, I have said what happened but TH-cam always removed the comment. Nice to see facism on TH-cam also.
@@paulravensburger1414 except it isn’t a Nazi salute. It’s a Roman salute. The Americans used to call it the Bellamy salute when we did it in our own school saying the Pledge of Allegiance.
The 'gesture' was preceded with Musk proclaiming the beginning of a new civilisation. The content, the hailing of victory and then the gesture, suggests to me that this was most definitely an intended salute. As was pointed out in this video, the Nazis took a lot of cues in their paraphernalia, trappings and gestures from the Romans. What remains to be seen is whether the use by Elon Musk will now continue to be associated with fascism or take on a milder new form. Considering Musk's recent associations with hard right and far right groups, I think that we should be assuming that there will be no new usage and that he fully intends it to be as was used by the Nazi party of Germany. It is also worth noting that Musk's maternal grandparents were known Nazi sympathisers and moved from Canada to South Africa for political reasons when apartheid was formally instituted. How much influence Musk received because of his grandparents' leanings is difficult to measure and it doesn't necessarily follow that a child or grandchild shares the same political beliefs. However, seeing Musk now and everything that he has done and said, does indicate that he is increasingly embracing far right tendencies. It isn't just the salute or 'gesture'. It is everything that has come before as well.
Well done for raising that Elon's words are actually the most damning evidence, contrary to the defence about the 'heart going out'. Yeah, the fasc. salute he used is called hailing of victory, and whilst doing it he perfectly explained the fasc. concept behind it, cultural and civilisational victory over others. I went down a bit of a rabbit hole, and interestingly the use of the word heart comes up over 150 times in a certain German infamous political book, much much more than a range of political texts. That may be a coincidence, but not out the question the 'heart' has darker underpinnings in some form. The evidence points to the gesture never being used by the Romans, the concept only had any actual use with fasc. parties of the modern era. Musk's father, who claims the politics on Elon's maternal side caused deep rifts, though he should not be taken as a creditably source; the father has made clear that politically his primary adversary is the 'no-sayers' vs the 'can doers' (western governments vs business people and strong men), which very much aligns with fasc. He claims Elon's political views align, at least roughly, with his.
We cannot allow this to be minimised or normalised. This is one of the most disgusting things ever seen in a member of parliament. I never thought I’d see America degraded in such a way and linked so closely to fascism.
Because it's not the national socialist party salute? Because the news crew lied saying Elons an admirer of Germany? Because he's a rich guy on the spectrum who does weird things? Seriously, chill out.
@@jacob2359 Exactly, why doesn't he scourge himself and kowtow to our delusion and whining. Same as when they bring up the very fine people lie and ask Trump to denounce xyz that he doesn't and hasn't ever supported ad nauseum.
I left x prior as freedom of speech is not free and racist are mostly on x now. A post calling a black person racial slurs is shown with a report of nothing wrong and now we know why. Also funny i said Elon might be batting for the same team as he wanted to measure Zuckerbergs lower regions and my post got censored and views restricted. But freedom of speech seems to only apply when you're a Nazi.
@@TheSunseeker007 i left x awhile back as Elons free speech only applies to a certain side, i used his same "freedom of speech" and got my comment restricted and you know what that means. I did type a response already but seems TH-cam removes anything that tells truth and facts.
If this was in almost any other western country, his political career would be instantly over. How can he have an office in the West wing after this? Very scary!
@ You've missed my point, it's ok to do it as long as you have a D next to your name, but when an R does it, all the D cultists cutch at their pearls and scream racism...
Perhaps it was a salute to freedom, and it looked COMPLETELY spontaneous! The crazy bizarre response is completely out of context. He sais MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU! The media has become redicilous, honestly!
@@ignacio7339 atp as long as you recognize it instead of defend it like some ppl that’s all that matters. We can stop this rise to fascism if we unite but that only happens when ppl admit that what he did happened. Pls id you know other who voted trump try and convince them not to defend this action
you know how some people just seem to have everything fall into place? turns out, a lot of them read Vibrations of Manifestation, and they swear it’s not just about positive thinking-it’s about aligning your energy with your goals. my friends who’ve read it seem way more intentional and grounded. finding the book is tricky, though-it doesn’t stick around long, but maybe that’s part of the magic
Donald Trump has never ruled out the use of force to take Greenland. Hitler invaded Europe in the 1940s. I don't want the USA to invade Greenland by force.
When considering what actually is the case when interpreting a person's behavior, what matters Is the actual motive or intention of that person, NOT what the subjective interpretation of an observed behavior might be. To claim Elon intentionally - even subconsciously - made a fascist salute is false. He clearly said "my heart goes out to you". His speech was centered on human flourishing and reaching Mars - a goal his biographer Walter Isaacson has documented as Elon's #1 goal in life. Moreover, the left believes the right is evil, thus, when their side makes similar gestures, they pass it off whatever, but when the right does so, they believe it clear proof of evil intent.
I did a quick Google search for Mussolini and the facial expressions of the first photo I saw of Mussolini and Musk we're identical. So saying this is an awkward gesture isn't correct in my opinion. Furthermore if you want to gesture "My hart goes out to you" you use both hands
He did use both hands in the moments leading up to this clip. But when he said my heart goes out to you, he touched his heart with right hand and extended that same hand. Try holding both of your hands on your heart and then extending them both. It's a little awkward. I'm not here to say I know what Elon's motives were. I just think that some people might be jumping to conclusions.
@@rachelh5211 I think you're right we should keep in mind what Elon said in full, so we don't take his actions out of context... That fasc. salutes name translated into English is 'Hail of Victory', its purpose is revelling in the feeling of civilizational victory over an 'other'. To put that in other words, go listen to the full clip and Elon explains this exact context before doing the salutes
Stop buying his cars. Yes he will still be millionaire but let's do our best to not make rich from our action. America is nothing. This use to be a dream to leave in America no more.
good grief you people have f-ing lost it! He is showing his heart goes out to them... SMH! I find it funny that you always seem to cut the clip right before he says that! GROW UP!
I am an American, and the fact that the French are aware of Elons support of the far right group he supports in Germany and that many Americans do not is a shame…I didn’t vote for him but I’m happy to see your news broadcast actually calling it what it is a “Nazi salute”
All of my Swedish American Great Uncles and Great Aunts Husbands fought in World War II. My youngerst Great Uncle described all the local families receiving Western Union Telegrams informating them of Deceased Sons coming back from Normandy. My Grandmother had 9 siblings. Three of my grandparents ancestors fought the American Revolution. All my Democrat friends are in the same sentiment. Nazis have taken over the Republicans in US.
@ All ya gotta do is listen to his words. And realize there are people all around, not just in front of the stage. Is that what the Nazis said? No, y'all making something out of nothing
@@luisnegrete-up6llyes, he meant to signal exactly what he said two seconds before he did it twice. "my heart goes out to you". But many are too stupid to realize that the left is still up to their BS agenda of spreading lies, hate, and division Bozo.🤡🤣🤡
For comparison... look at footage from the Tesla shareholders meeting in 23, Texas, 15 second mark. He forms a heart with his hands and throws it outwards.
100% knew what he was doing. Very impressive to basically call everyone idiots and ironic to say dirty tricks after this. If he doesn't get any backlash, it's a massive slap in the face to all those who fought and died against the Nazis.
That's how he blended it to be. He had this planed out, which is even crazier!! He could have just tapped his right hand over his heart but nooo. He know better, he knows that all his gestures are critical once you're famous. Look at when Obama and Trump were talking to eachother and everyone wants to know details. He knows, he knows.....👀
What history? His history of allowing free speech? He owns the social media platform millions of people are using to slander him, if he was actually fascist so you think he'd allow that?
EVEN IF HE DIDN'T MEAN IT... Where is his APOLOGY? He has NO self aware that what he did is an INSULT to everyone that fell in the beaches of D-Day? And all the soldiers from all the other countries that faced the worst war in Human history? There is no apology, because there was no mistake. He did what he meant and he meant what he did. You can't make this mistake twice.
Theres no excuse because he did no nazi salute. why would he apologize for something he didn't do? If he ever apologized, you would say he admits he did it
I find it fascinating how the perception of Musk's awkward gesture is percieved through such a biased lens. Tim Walz, the DEI veep's veep pick, performed the exact same gesture during one of her rallys. I MEAN EXACTLY THE SAME. We all just looked at Walz as an awkward and goofy dude. But snowflakes are gonna flake, I guess...
If Elon described the exact meaning of the fasc 'hail victory' salute at the time of doing the salute, twice, I guess that would be the only way we would know for sure... wait that is exactly what he did. To not face that would be being a snowflake
@ (1 of 3) Keep the full conext of what else he said: "This this is what victory feels like, yeah, and this was no ordinary victory this was a fork in the road of human civilization... It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is secured" ...
@ ... (3 of 3) Separately, using strongly emotive language is an integrated aspect of fasc anyway. For example, the word heart is used over 150 times in the book Hit. wrote WAY more that comparable political texts.
YES. STOP DANCING AROUND IT. IT IS THE YAZI SALUTE. IF A DEMOCRAT DID THIS THEY WOULD LITERALLY BE A PARIAH. The double standard and mental gymnastics defending this is astounding.
Elon spoke in support of the AfD. Backing the AfD making that salute and then mocking the audience that they should find better tricks is gaslighting at its peak. And we all know it.
@@JustinLynch-w3r Weak response to an intentional act. Don't blame the Drs. I have an austistic neice. Ican't seem to remember her throwing Nazi salutes.
Let’s remember Elon’s propensity toward symbolism - on the first day entering Twitter, he carried a sink and said, “let that sink in”. In that light, it is pretty certain he was not being autistic, but very intentional.
so my friends started raving about this book called Vibrations of Manifestation, and honestly, their lives started to shift-one got a promotion they thought was years away, another randomly reconnected with someone who gave them a huge opportunity. it’s like their energy just leveled up, not in some flashy way, but in a way that actually sticks. people say this book gets taken down fast because it’s too real, so good luck if you wanna find it.
Oh he 100% either forgot where he was with that or he didn't care. I think he got carried away and accidentally showed what im sure he gets up to in private.!!!! L Kum Nose
Doesn’t he say he gives his heart out? I mean the gesture he does looks like the salute but I don’t think that was his intention and it’s more akin to “giving his heart out” We’re all blowing this out of proportion because we hate the guy 😂
Not trying to be that guy but it's sad that "Some" Jewish individuals are actually trying to defend this.... DUDE this isn't a situation where you think taking THAT side is beneficial....NO...This guy is calling you individuals DIRECTLY!....I mean.... It's odd that Jewish individuals are so outspoken when they themselves aren't under attack....But as soon as they themselves are called out DIRECTLY.....All of a sudden.... It's...."Well maybe it wasn't actually what we seen with our own eyes" Aren't they the chosen people? You know the people that say they had it worse than blacks??? Not my personal fight but I'm seeing some real coward's man.
I consider myself center-right, but I condemn the Nazi salute. I can't believe how many on the right (and even on the left) are dismissive of the Nazi salute. Elon is showing exactly who he is in plain sight, yet many people would rather do intricate mental gymnastics to dismiss the gesture. It's terrifying how gullible and tribal people are.
He might not have been copying Hitlers salute. I think if he was copying anyone it was that white supremacist groups salute....IF ..... I'm still not really sure but it sure looks exactly the same . How does one awkwardly gesture in the exact same way?? hell of a coincidence lol . At the same time I feel like Musk is too intelligent to be so obvious about it if it was what people think it was.
Nooo. Americans voted. Majority of the country wants trump in office. Please everybody do not pray against this, pray that we continue to move our country in the right direction.
We know the salute when we see it.
*_And the person that gave the salute knew exactly what he was doing_*
True
So?
@@JonathanAciertoif that doesn't bother you that speaks for itself
@@JonathanAcierto sO???!!?!
White South African, they all like that
This is he saying "i can do wathever i want cuz i am untouchable now".
Yup
100%
@@homomanify this is you seeing what you want because your entire personality is hatred.
If Elon was what you claim he's been a billionaire for a long time. He had no need to hide it.
Then he would've uttered a german phrase instead of talking about his heart. Clearly there's still a limit.
@Quintessence4444 #cope
Everything will be a "coincidence" until there's a boot on our necks.
This! One hundred percent.
~George Floyd
That could be a coincidence too!
@@thelovejoyshow568 where was that boot before now? Oh, on Biden's foot. Where was it during Trump's 1st term? Oh, Obama still had it on.
Y'all just make up stuff to be nad about.
But why was there no outrage when Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama did this?!?!
Oh right cuz there are democrats
Why do people deny reality. We literally see him. It is what it is.
Exactly! It is what it is, what it is.
People love to jump on a celebrity’s bandwagon.
No he did nothing wrong, we only imagine it and want to expect better from government. How dare us care instead of all going out and throwing up our hands in similar salutes and going heil Muskler.
I've been giving Elon the benefit of doubt over the years, but this overt Nazi salute made me lose all trust and respect for Elon. Regardless of his true deep down beliefs and desires, he performed a gesture of extreme hate and evil twice. If he just got caught up in the moment and didn't intend to do a sieg heil, he should apologize and make it clear he didn't intent to do a Nazi salute. But since he did it intentionally and believes he didn't do anything wrong, he won't apologize.
I think he did a roman salute.
So we’re to believe Elon is extremely smart but too awkward to know exactly what that gesture is when he’s done it before. He knows what it is and doesn’t care. Disgusting.
Yes, and he does it twice! So the folks in the back can revel in the antisemitism
This^
He got an 88 on the autism test (badum tsss)
He’s a super genius but apparently never learned about ww2
Exactly 🎯
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” ― George Orwell, 1984.
All this Orwell quoting is Hilarious.... Where were you Orwell fans the last 5 years...? Or 10 years?
Hope you ALL support Snowden if you really don't want to live in 1984. How about all the censorship ? I'll give him a pass for this... because atleast he exposed Twitter for the CIA/leftist government propaganda tool that it was. I guess this is his way of promoting freedom of speech maybe? To do sumthin that's completely legal but genrally frowned upon.
If it was a accident he would be apologizing but it was intentional
If it was an accident he wouldn't have done it twice...
@@IvarDaigonsecond one looked more angry and correct way of doing it scary
It looked like a fascist rush of blood.
@@HasselDaHoff25 Correct way? LOL!! He is not standing at attention, his arm is outstretched more to his side, not in front of him and the words going along with this gesture obviously means he is just throwing his love and thanks to the people.
@@dis7817I only seen this salute on the internet for white suprematist and I’ve been on the internet since 1999 dial up, that’s a seig heil bro.
The stance of the Anti Defamation League is disgraceful.
The ADL attacked the Jewish Voice for Peace movement for what it claimed to be antisemitism... They lost nearly all credibility before this, now it's completely gone
Elon can pay anyone off. So we will never know
@@crystallarsen3227 you're just made that up like most leftists.
Believe in institutions.
Only to the WOKE
He didn't even distance himself, not even speaking about apologizing!
He actually meant it!!
It's more than obvious that it was intentional.
Why apologize for something that wasnt even a bad thing?
@@DaMazzaf97get bent
@@DaMazzaf97wow you are blind not a bad thing lol
Guys, go see the original video. He didn't do any signal
I will say it like this..
if he did this in Germany..
he would be arrested on the spot.
Not saying he didn't mean to show a "Hitlergruß"... not saying he did...
all i know is what it looks like and what the consequences would be for him if he did it in Germany (or Austria).
He would 100% be arrested and taken to jail and prosecuted for it.
Not excusing him, I’m curious because I don’t know: I thought the natzi gesture started with a closed fist on the chest and a direct hand out in front.. usually with feet thumped together? (Maybe I watched to much ‘sound of music’). It looks like musk has open palm on chest and is more to the right of his body but looking directly at his hand. Like he half dabbed without the head down or was gazing into the future horizon.
It does look intentional but I’m trying to keep a cautiously open mind as a someone who doesn’t support trump at all. I’m aware my bias against trump 😂.
Just another reason America is better than Germany I guess. Jail over this would be retarded lol
Germany is a dictatorship
Nope, 200b guy
@@BruhsCookieJar I think he just did it so aggressively he threw hit arm out a little. He alr supports far right German gorups
The first time you make a gesture it might be seen as an awkward mistake but the second time is intentional...
He intentionally was throwing his love and thanks to the people from the bottom of his heart.
IvarDaigon Yes!
@@dis7817Yes,how nice of Elon to show remembrance to his Argentinian Grandfather🥰
Yeah I keep hearing that but that's being too nice. He's talked about what he believes way before this. Look up his parents. People need to start listening to what people are saying instead of just hearing them. This is so blatant and it should have been to people.
yes...signaling the millions of whyte supremeys! they r everywhere. do u take the tinfoil off to sleep?
If it looks like a goose, talks like a goose and steps like a goose...
"When people show who they are believe them."-Maya Angelou
… it’s wearing jackboots.
Salutes like a goose 👀
If it sounds like a paranoid Dumbass... and smells like a paranoid dumbass. It's probably Left leaning.
And they cheered.
This.
Maybe they cheered because they viewed it as a gesture emphasizing his statement, "My heart goes out to you."
@@rachelh5211this excuse is as bad as the dog eat my home work
@@rachelh5211that’s what I got out of it. This is confusing 💀
Not as loud though
This has gotta be satire. This cannot be an actual debate…He hit a Nazi salute with his full chest
Its the roman greet and he said my heart goes out to you
It's called the Bellamy salute. It's used when pledging elegance to America.
@@woodlandbiker Nope...look closely at the Hitler salute. The hand to the chest is TOTALLY different and very specific. This is all bunk.
@@GBarryTaylorhonestly not sure what you mean but saw a modern salute with relevant members and without sound, the video images were identical.
He supports AfD. It would be an honestly unbelievable coincidence. He knows, we know, you know. Some just don't want to see...
Why are people trying to pretend that they didn’t see what they clearly saw 👀
because they need money, favor, to appear "in line" .. the fear of these people has been twisted into compliance over in the USA and they are BROKE...
Because the salute may have looked "Nazi" but theres nothing Nazi or Fascist about Elon, Trump or Maga the left just got lucky he did that so they can go on and on about it on theyre news.
Because it's not a Nazi salute...
@@pamelaolson5614 except they have verbally supported neo nazis in the past, and if you think it looks like Nazi it's definitely Nazi especially if you look side by side to a neo nazi salute it's not a gesture you make unless purposefully and if you think it's socially appropriate do it in Germany see how well that works for ya, just keep making excuses for the people who have no care for the people they should
The ADL's pathetic response was just as bad as Musk's salute.
Yes, very disappointing. The ADF is already running scared.
@@jonda2282everyone is the republicans have been threatening everyone.
It's only a salute in your imagination. Have you learned nothing in the last four years of being proven wrong about literally everything?
@@Frostwulf1313 MAGA NotSees defending their values
@@Frostwulf1313 are you Jewish?
If he had done that here in Germany he would have been arrested.Showing the Nazi salute is a criminal offense in our country and can be punished with up to three years in prison (§ 130 StGB).No joke, so don't do that ...
I prefer to live in a country that values rights and liberties. No thanks.
Sadly some Americans have in Germany and winds up bad for them, I have said what happened but TH-cam always removed the comment. Nice to see facism on TH-cam also.
Do you wanna arrest your uncle?😊
He should have been arrested here too!! But sadly, people are defending him.
@@paulravensburger1414 except it isn’t a Nazi salute. It’s a Roman salute. The Americans used to call it the Bellamy salute when we did it in our own school saying the Pledge of Allegiance.
Two unequivocal salutes. I hope people will now realise what his products and services represent.
How long you been a sheeple?
Lmao it’s not even close to the same thing
Exactly … clearly a Racist
@@viziocamaro it is actually the same thing !!!
@@viziocamaropssst... it was the same thing
Good lord. He did it 3x, not twice. It was totally intentional and not to have news outlets recognize a duck as a duck is how fascism wins.
guess his bloodline
Yes his dad is from south Africa and grand parents immigrated from Britain
@@cloudofradiantglorychurch Yes, of course. S.A. was bastion of freedom and equality
Racist from Africa really simple.
@@cloudofradiantglorychurchand?
Um there is nothing wrong with South Africans thank you very much
The 'gesture' was preceded with Musk proclaiming the beginning of a new civilisation. The content, the hailing of victory and then the gesture, suggests to me that this was most definitely an intended salute. As was pointed out in this video, the Nazis took a lot of cues in their paraphernalia, trappings and gestures from the Romans. What remains to be seen is whether the use by Elon Musk will now continue to be associated with fascism or take on a milder new form. Considering Musk's recent associations with hard right and far right groups, I think that we should be assuming that there will be no new usage and that he fully intends it to be as was used by the Nazi party of Germany. It is also worth noting that Musk's maternal grandparents were known Nazi sympathisers and moved from Canada to South Africa for political reasons when apartheid was formally instituted. How much influence Musk received because of his grandparents' leanings is difficult to measure and it doesn't necessarily follow that a child or grandchild shares the same political beliefs. However, seeing Musk now and everything that he has done and said, does indicate that he is increasingly embracing far right tendencies. It isn't just the salute or 'gesture'. It is everything that has come before as well.
"hard right"..."far right"...haha..media much?
Good points.
@@ugghhhyoutubeisawful646 not media he literally supports far right nationalist groups in Germany. Germany had to speak out against him for it
@@ugghhhyoutubeisawful646 far right is not a media made up buzzword
Well done for raising that Elon's words are actually the most damning evidence, contrary to the defence about the 'heart going out'. Yeah, the fasc. salute he used is called hailing of victory, and whilst doing it he perfectly explained the fasc. concept behind it, cultural and civilisational victory over others.
I went down a bit of a rabbit hole, and interestingly the use of the word heart comes up over 150 times in a certain German infamous political book, much much more than a range of political texts. That may be a coincidence, but not out the question the 'heart' has darker underpinnings in some form.
The evidence points to the gesture never being used by the Romans, the concept only had any actual use with fasc. parties of the modern era.
Musk's father, who claims the politics on Elon's maternal side caused deep rifts, though he should not be taken as a creditably source; the father has made clear that politically his primary adversary is the 'no-sayers' vs the 'can doers' (western governments vs business people and strong men), which very much aligns with fasc. He claims Elon's political views align, at least roughly, with his.
We cannot allow this to be minimised or normalised. This is one of the most disgusting things ever seen in a member of parliament. I never thought I’d see America degraded in such a way and linked so closely to fascism.
If it really was an awkward gesture, why doesn't he say so? And simply renounce any allegiance to national socialism?
Because it's not the national socialist party salute? Because the news crew lied saying Elons an admirer of Germany? Because he's a rich guy on the spectrum who does weird things? Seriously, chill out.
@@jacob2359get bent. it was a nazi salute.
@@jacob2359 Exactly, why doesn't he scourge himself and kowtow to our delusion and whining. Same as when they bring up the very fine people lie and ask Trump to denounce xyz that he doesn't and hasn't ever supported ad nauseum.
exactly
@@jacob2359 If that is why, he can simply issue a statement and hire someone to help him write it. No excuse.
As much as I dislike him, he’s not saluting.
All he had to do was close his fist and it would’ve been fine. But that open hand salute was a terrible choice. Hard to believe it wasn’t intentional
Yeah right? Ppl are trying to saw he grabbed his heart as if you can’t hear him smack it
I left X yesterday because of that
I left x prior as freedom of speech is not free and racist are mostly on x now. A post calling a black person racial slurs is shown with a report of nothing wrong and now we know why. Also funny i said Elon might be batting for the same team as he wanted to measure Zuckerbergs lower regions and my post got censored and views restricted. But freedom of speech seems to only apply when you're a Nazi.
Yeah that will show them 😂
@@TheSunseeker007 i left x awhile back as Elons free speech only applies to a certain side, i used his same "freedom of speech" and got my comment restricted and you know what that means. I did type a response already but seems TH-cam removes anything that tells truth and facts.
In all 100% seriousness, good on you. We vote what kinda world we want every day with our choices.
Many have left X since Musky bought it.
He's completely out of control.
Now it all makes sense now, why he supports Russia, why he supports right wing parties...
Kinda a very condradicting statement
How stupid or Jealous does someone have to be to suggest he's a Nazi?
If this was in almost any other western country, his political career would be instantly over. How can he have an office in the West wing after this? Very scary!
I don't recall this much upset when Tim Walz did the EXACT same gesture multiple times at Kamala's rallys.
Tim Walz did it 😂
@@PhaQ2 Doesn't master what party, it is totally unacceptable
@ I think you missed the point cupcake. The faux outrage over Elon was missing when the socialist democrats were saluting their cult members.
@ You've missed my point, it's ok to do it as long as you have a D next to your name, but when an R does it, all the D cultists cutch at their pearls and scream racism...
Perhaps it was a salute to freedom, and it looked COMPLETELY spontaneous! The crazy bizarre response is completely out of context. He sais MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU! The media has become redicilous, honestly!
People are asking Musk to apologise for something he didn’t do.
I will save everyone some time
He did it.
Dangerous times..!!!
If he starts goose stepping will he say its just a form of cardio.
If he starts wearing swastika pin he'll say it's just a Hindu symbol.
He put his hand over his hand over his heart and said, from my heart to you.
isn’t a question on whether or not he did it. He definitely did that.
you... actually think that. You people are beyond lost.
This gives me a weird feeling.The future seems bleak suddenly
Me too, im mostly just confused now. I was so excited for Trumps election and Elons involvement 😢
It’s felt bleak since 2016 at minimum
@@ignacio7339 atp as long as you recognize it instead of defend it like some ppl that’s all that matters. We can stop this rise to fascism if we unite but that only happens when ppl admit that what he did happened. Pls id you know other who voted trump try and convince them not to defend this action
Suddenly? The news has been nothing but disasters for like 30 years.
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Since he didn't apologize for it, then it was intentional. It will be a scary 4 years
he doesnt have to apologize for sticking his arm in the air are you dumb
not as scary as when biden was president. you're scared because you're one of kamala voters😂 go move to another country like you promised.
@@ToddHowarduwu Troll
@ cry abt it
Donald Trump has never ruled out the use of force to take Greenland.
Hitler invaded Europe in the 1940s.
I don't want the USA to invade Greenland by force.
When considering what actually is the case when interpreting a person's behavior, what matters Is the actual motive or intention of that person, NOT what the subjective interpretation of an observed behavior might be. To claim Elon intentionally - even subconsciously - made a fascist salute is false. He clearly said "my heart goes out to you". His speech was centered on human flourishing and reaching Mars - a goal his biographer Walter Isaacson has documented as Elon's #1 goal in life. Moreover, the left believes the right is evil, thus, when their side makes similar gestures, they pass it off whatever, but when the right does so, they believe it clear proof of evil intent.
I did a quick Google search for Mussolini and the facial expressions of the first photo I saw of Mussolini and Musk we're identical. So saying this is an awkward gesture isn't correct in my opinion. Furthermore if you want to gesture "My hart goes out to you" you use both hands
He did use both hands in the moments leading up to this clip. But when he said my heart goes out to you, he touched his heart with right hand and extended that same hand. Try holding both of your hands on your heart and then extending them both. It's a little awkward. I'm not here to say I know what Elon's motives were. I just think that some people might be jumping to conclusions.
@@rachelh5211 I think you're right we should keep in mind what Elon said in full, so we don't take his actions out of context...
That fasc. salutes name translated into English is 'Hail of Victory', its purpose is revelling in the feeling of civilizational victory over an 'other'. To put that in other words, go listen to the full clip and Elon explains this exact context before doing the salutes
Stop buying his cars. Yes he will still be millionaire but let's do our best to not make rich from our action. America is nothing. This use to be a dream to leave in America no more.
He's basically saying "White Powaaa"
“When someone shows you who they are… believe them the first time”
🤡🤣🤡
The ADL is very right wing, so it’s not surprising at all that they wouldn’t defend Musk’s salute.
So true. Is ra el is too!
good grief you people have f-ing lost it! He is showing his heart goes out to them... SMH! I find it funny that you always seem to cut the clip right before he says that! GROW UP!
Because it’s irrelevant. He said that after the fact. And he has not apologised!
@ what a stupid response!
@@dholtman5977 did u swallow?
Has anyone asked Musk what it was? Rather than speclate I would rather ask him.
I am an American, and the fact that the French are aware of Elons support of the far right group he supports in Germany and that many Americans do not is a shame…I didn’t vote for him but I’m happy to see your news broadcast actually calling it what it is a “Nazi salute”
All of my Swedish American Great Uncles and Great Aunts Husbands fought in World War II. My youngerst Great Uncle described all the local families receiving Western Union Telegrams informating them of Deceased Sons coming back from Normandy. My Grandmother had 9 siblings. Three of my grandparents ancestors fought the American Revolution. All my Democrat friends are in the same sentiment. Nazis have taken over the Republicans in US.
Give yourself a break
😆
ok tinfoil
It is extremely sad. My grandfather fought in WWII. My grandmother served in the National Guard. This is unreal.
Musk didn't deny it.
Musk does not need to say anything. You people would just twist his words into something you want to hear.
@@dis7817sort of how you’re telling yourself he didn’t mean to do it twice? Bozo
@ All ya gotta do is listen to his words. And realize there are people all around, not just in front of the stage. Is that what the Nazis said? No, y'all making something out of nothing
@@luisnegrete-up6ll 100%
@@luisnegrete-up6llyes, he meant to signal exactly what he said two seconds before he did it twice. "my heart goes out to you". But many are too stupid to realize that the left is still up to their BS agenda of spreading lies, hate, and division Bozo.🤡🤣🤡
Come guys and gals...
Some of us done it too...
When we're alone in mirror...
That was not bad...
Its not
Yes cause he did it twice..it's like giving you the bird and then giving you a bird again😮
For comparison... look at footage from the Tesla shareholders meeting in 23, Texas, 15 second mark. He forms a heart with his hands and throws it outwards.
So from now we can do this and say "Hail Musk?" 😂
100% knew what he was doing.
Very impressive to basically call everyone idiots and ironic to say dirty tricks after this.
If he doesn't get any backlash, it's a massive slap in the face to all those who fought and died against the Nazis.
He is saluting the crowd from his heart. Is not this expression obvious?
That's how he blended it to be.
He had this planed out, which is even crazier!!
He could have just tapped his right hand over his heart but nooo.
He know better, he knows that all his gestures are critical once you're famous. Look at when Obama and Trump were talking to eachother and everyone wants to know details.
He knows, he knows.....👀
this looks more like a roman salute
0:14 Are we going to talk about how the reporter called him Elon Trump and it sounded so natural that nobody questioned it?
Just as informed as the rest of the video, I'm sure
😂😂😂
Yes, he did.
No he did not.
"You can't deny what you see."
You obviously aren't a fascism supporter, or you could - daily.
Why are the masses so desperate, boycott his products there ends the matter
This is such bs! He always does the gesture but he says with it you need things that move your heart! He's no Nazi and I'm sure he hates hitler!
We all know what was going through his mind
Liberal fan fiction
Right, we all know it meant my heart goes out to you, which he very clearly said. But some idiots believe the lefts BS talking point.
This is not a nazi salute
How can anyone see this any other based on this guys history.
Yep, 100%
What history? His history of allowing free speech? He owns the social media platform millions of people are using to slander him, if he was actually fascist so you think he'd allow that?
His history is absolute great. A genius.
No internet, no he didn't
this place is a cesspool 😂
He rehearsed it atleast 3 times in the mirror. That's for sure. 😂
EVEN IF HE DIDN'T MEAN IT... Where is his APOLOGY?
He has NO self aware that what he did is an INSULT to everyone that fell in the beaches of D-Day? And all the soldiers from all the other countries that faced the worst war in Human history?
There is no apology, because there was no mistake. He did what he meant and he meant what he did. You can't make this mistake twice.
Theres no excuse because he did no nazi salute. why would he apologize for something he didn't do?
If he ever apologized, you would say he admits he did it
You should apologies for your pathetic live.
This is a Elon Musk’s salute.
Lol
Copyright © ™
Ah yes Elon Trump
I find it fascinating how the perception of Musk's awkward gesture is percieved through such a biased lens.
Tim Walz, the DEI veep's veep pick, performed the exact same gesture during one of her rallys.
I MEAN EXACTLY THE SAME. We all just looked at Walz as an awkward and goofy dude.
But snowflakes are gonna flake, I guess...
If Elon described the exact meaning of the fasc 'hail victory' salute at the time of doing the salute, twice, I guess that would be the only way we would know for sure... wait that is exactly what he did. To not face that would be being a snowflake
@ You mean like, "my heart goes out to you"? Something Walz never did...
Fasc sees fasc everywhere. Says more about you than him, snowy...
@ (1 of 3) Keep the full conext of what else he said:
"This this is what victory feels like,
yeah, and this was no ordinary victory
this was a fork in the road of human
civilization... It is thanks to you that the future
of civilization is secured"
...
@ ... (3 of 3) Separately, using strongly emotive language is an integrated aspect of fasc anyway. For example, the word heart is used over 150 times in the book Hit. wrote WAY more that comparable political texts.
@@PhaQ2 ... (2 of 3) That quote from Musk while doing the salute twice is an undeniably perfect description of its historical meaning...
It's nothing more than that his heart goes out gesture. He Said that right before he did it.. I don't like the man but he didn't Nazi salute
After he did it!
After, actually
YES. STOP DANCING AROUND IT. IT IS THE YAZI SALUTE. IF A DEMOCRAT DID THIS THEY WOULD LITERALLY BE A PARIAH. The double standard and mental gymnastics defending this is astounding.
Elon spoke in support of the AfD.
Backing the AfD making that salute and then mocking the audience that they should find better tricks is gaslighting at its peak. And we all know it.
Musk is a very strange man, I just have not seen anyone as delusional, awkward and with such a massive ego.
Of course it is
It is we can’t allow this
I'd blame it on his doctors and the side effects of the medication he is on. Or maybe the lack of medication
I believe you're right. He was just getting hyped In his speech. He does have a bit of autism.
@@JustinLynch-w3r Weak response to an intentional act. Don't blame the Drs. I have an austistic neice. Ican't seem to remember her throwing Nazi salutes.
I don’t think a doctor is the one giving him tons of ketamine
Let’s remember Elon’s propensity toward symbolism - on the first day entering Twitter, he carried a sink and said, “let that sink in”. In that light, it is pretty certain he was not being autistic, but very intentional.
I am sure he rehearsed it in the mirror. No way it was out of the blues.
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Oh he 100% either forgot where he was with that or he didn't care. I think he got carried away and accidentally showed what im sure he gets up to in private.!!!! L Kum Nose
I think he planned that because he is rich an he can get an pardon from his stupid friend
Doesn’t he say he gives his heart out? I mean the gesture he does looks like the salute but I don’t think that was his intention and it’s more akin to “giving his heart out”
We’re all blowing this out of proportion because we hate the guy 😂
Based
But when Tim Walz made the same gesture atca rally nobody raised an eyebrow.
Did you know theres a movie about romans wit the same salute he did
That was *_The Third Right’s favourite movie_*
If it wasn’t the salute he would have or simply could have said, it wasn’t the salute.
Not saying that proves it was the salute.
No Nazi salute.
Not trying to be that guy but it's sad that "Some" Jewish individuals are actually trying to defend this.... DUDE this isn't a situation where you think taking THAT side is beneficial....NO...This guy is calling you individuals DIRECTLY!....I mean.... It's odd that Jewish individuals are so outspoken when they themselves aren't under attack....But as soon as they themselves are called out DIRECTLY.....All of a sudden.... It's...."Well maybe it wasn't actually what we seen with our own eyes" Aren't they the chosen people? You know the people that say they had it worse than blacks??? Not my personal fight but I'm seeing some real coward's man.
"When people show who they are believe them."-Maya Angelou
Far more antisemitism in this comment than Musk has ever demonstrated
He was extending his heart mate
Why don't we hear this same backlash when democrats use this same gesture? This reporting is biased to the point of being sad and pathetic.
Whether you’re from right or left, anyone who believes it was an accident is naive and foolish.
I consider myself center-right, but I condemn the Nazi salute. I can't believe how many on the right (and even on the left) are dismissive of the Nazi salute. Elon is showing exactly who he is in plain sight, yet many people would rather do intricate mental gymnastics to dismiss the gesture. It's terrifying how gullible and tribal people are.
Yup
Didn't those Nazi killed a bunch of Americans??
He does like that Infront of us 😮
He needs to get cancelled!!
Like what 😮😮😮???!!
Yes you are foolish.
Oh my god take the time to actually look up the Nazi salute. It is a stiff hand and goes straight out and not to the side.
He might not have been copying Hitlers salute. I think if he was copying anyone it was that white supremacist groups salute....IF ..... I'm still not really sure but it sure looks exactly the same . How does one awkwardly gesture in the exact same way?? hell of a coincidence lol . At the same time I feel like Musk is too intelligent to be so obvious about it if it was what people think it was.
Well there are several films by Hitlers favorite photographer Leni Riefenstahl that would prove otherwise.
You do not even end to see the hand, his facial reaction is a dead give away of Nazi salute
Anyone defending this is pathetic...
True, but the lefties see Hitler in all their enemies…
It’s going to become a standard salute for far right parties from now on.
Hitler saluted forwards, not sideways.
The reason it's cringe is because it reminds you of "dub", not nazi salute 😒
Correct, no nazi salute.
Many other politicians have done this movement and I see your own French President also.
Why don't you just ask him what it was and what he meant by it. WOW
This socially awkward man , did he made this gesture before at any other point while celebrating many successes he had before
We see what we see policies ideologies and tone all pointing to 1937 Germany. Please pray for America we have been hijacked
Nooo. Americans voted. Majority of the country wants trump in office. Please everybody do not pray against this, pray that we continue to move our country in the right direction.
Stupid to say this.
The question is not was it a nazi salute.
The question is what will Trump do about it? And what will the world do about it?
Musk is a brilliant man. He knows exactly what he did.