Yes, I have come across that information also. He is an old man and should know better regardless. Maybe it is an experiment on free speech or expression. Yet, if your pocketbook is not of a certian caliber, a free pass does not apply to you.
A friend of mine’s Mum (Mexican, lived in US all her life) received a letter the day after the election, from the KKK telling her to leave. Yep. The US, the leader of the free world.
@dave2408 It's in the news that police in Kentucky are investigating the KKK's distribution of leaflets etc calling for immigrants to leave. It happened and it's happening.
The amount of mental gymnastics I've seen around Elon's salute is disturbing. If this guy is a "genius" then it follows that he knows exactly what he is doing.
As a neurodivergent person, I am beyond offended that people are trying to say he did this because of autism. These people spend every other day of the year punching down on us but suddenly he gets the benefit of the doubt? And after all his well documented interactions with the far right
I'm not surprised, have you seen the names he's given them? There used to be a joke... What gives kids a bad name......the Beckham's. The punchline needs to be changed to Elon Musk, he makes the Beckham's choice of child names look positively normal.
Wow! Curiouser and curiouser. I never knew Elon Musk had a trans daughter. Fascinating. This will no doubt feed into his feelings/opinions. I’ve just read that he was not happy with her for being too ‘feminine’ as a kid. So what? I don’t have a son, but if he were overtly ‘feminine’ it wouldn’t bother me one iota. Why do certain people get so anzty about the most trivial things? 🤷♂️
I find the stark difference between the responses regarding Kyrie Irving a few years ago and Elon Musk very ludicrous. The fact that the ADL bent their knee and gave a justification for what Musk did really demonstrates rich white male privilege. Where are the calls for condemnation?
The ADL is more concerned with being a pro-Israel lobby than woth actually fighting anti-semitism. They often turn a blind eye to right wing anti-semitism which is often pro-Israel.
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” John Kenneth Galbraith
You probably wouldn't believe the cathartic effect of having everything confirmed, that I have been yelling into the wind for 30 years without getting any useful feedback from anybody in my orbit.
I recently changed my testament from ‚no grave‘ to a tombstone with ‚told you so‘ engraved. Doesn’t give too much pleasure to be right and right again.
My thoughts exactly mle6501, Labour voters were warned but still they still voted for it anyway. Now we all are affected by it. But that's how the system works I guess and it is what it is for now.
@@darkstatehkWe'd be saying the same thing if Reform UK won. The country would still be in a state after 6 months, and they wouldn't have fixed anything. Then all the Labour voters could sit and say "I told you so". Who was the alternative to Labour this time around? It wasn't the Tories, they caused the mess. It wasn't the Lib Dems because they'd just drag up the whole Brexit debate again and we'd get nothing done. It certainly wasn't Reform, who seem to think that cutting taxes by £90bn while committing to £50bn in new spending would fix an already fragile fiscal situation. Where does that £140bn come from, if you're not happy with the measures taken to fix a £20bn deficit. Where does it come from? At least Labour are taking unpopular decisions, in an attempt to fix underlying issues. There are no easy fixes and if you're falling for the people who tell you that everything is easy, then you're more naïve than any Labour voter.
@@darkstatehk We'd be saying the same thing if Reform UK won. The country would still be in a state after 6 months, and they wouldn't have fixed anything. Then all the Labour voters could sit and say "I told you so". Who was the alternative to Labour this time around? It wasn't the Tories, they caused the mess. It wasn't the Lib Dems because they'd just drag up the whole Brexit debate again and we'd get nothing done. It certainly wasn't Reform, who seem to think that cutting taxes by £90bn while committing to £50bn in new spending would fix an already fragile fiscal situation. Where does that £140bn come from, if you're not happy with the measures taken to fix a £20bn deficit. Where does it come from? At least Labour are taking unpopular decisions, in an attempt to fix underlying issues. There are no easy fixes and anyone falling for the people who tell them that everything is easy, is more naïve than any Labour voter.
Please, all Brits, get on Blue Sky and help us support this anti-trump/musk movement. We have more anti-trump people who can not stand what is happening to this new regime. Our Electoral College has failed us. We are headed for very dark times and this is not what Americans support.
@AnexSeer: Data Scientist Stephen Spoonamore is adamant that the election was HACKED for a Trump win. View his interview on TH-cam with Thom Hartman, from mid-November. He says, "Prove Me Wrong." Read the article by Spoonamore in SALON: Duty to Warn-Letter to VP Harris/election 2024. You'll question results, having done so.
@MrFoggy13 It's not a debate when the owners get to censor and direct the conversation at their whim, as both Musk and Zuckerberg have openly done. You're the one in the bubble - wake up.
The name Heritage Foundation peek my interest because in 1994 a hate speech called The Ballad of Malcolm X was given to grade 10 students as English assignment. The Toronto school board came out to defend themselves saying the material didn't come from them. I liken Heritage Foundation to the kkk
It still shocks me that so few people have so much power. Its not as though they're intellectually superior. They're selfish and power hungry. How? Why?
Yes and just completely dismiss the man’s entrepreneurial will and creative ambitions. Musk didn’t become rich by accident. I know it’s fashionable to hate the guy but be objective…
I honestly think some people need a history lesson about how the Holocaust began and maybe a compulsory trip Auschwitz.... because they might laugh, but putting people in gas ovens was a thing....
I'm not sure if this was the plan, but Elon's over the top freak behavior seems to be having the effect of making Trump seem somewhat normal by comparison.
I have seen a lot of of the apologetics for Elmo, and none of it stands up very well - if you take it in context with everything else he has said, and everything else he has done
You mean the context where he was thanking and literally throwing his heart out to a stadium full of people, there, oh yeah, now its in context the left do look like morons you're correct.
The rise of the far right has been predictable for quite some time now and everybody said "You're being hysterical!", "It'd never happen here!" and "You're just being paranoid!". We're about to find out in real time the fate of those miners who choose to ignore, or even curse, the canary when it starts to panic.
So, is the far right people that do the salute? I just wonder what policies you are worried are far right? Or is it just the salute you’re worried about?
It has happened in response to be taken advantage of! If the lefties hadn't pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed we would not feel the need to push back!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s terrifying. That salute is so so dangerous. Next thing you know other people are doing it. And then, other people will be doing it. Before you know it, other people are doing it and then loads of people are raising their hand on the air. Which is terrifying. Hands. In the air. Terrifying
My other account was just shadow banned for nothing more than naming the gesture that Elon did. It is not a crime or even a curse word to name that gesture in the U.S. yet YT bans people for speaking out about it. Why would that be?
What irks me a bit is that the factors which drove these people to the extreme-right were... right-wing. Yes, we've been more socially liberal over the last century. But the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer is extremely right-wing (justified by the striving of the individual on the false basis that the wealthy deserve to be wealthy despite a large portion of them being feckless menchildren). So these people who are fed up with liberalism are actually fed up with right-wing policy, and are supporting people who plan to make it worse.
From the heart is both hand flung wide from your sternum. I've been to thousands of Gigs, Plays, Opera, Theatre, Concerts etc. never once seen a flat hand arm outstretched sign of thanks to a crowd.
Truth, finally someone who understands who these people are, for most people the far right are just a side of politics, others who have seen what the NF and EDL are capable of understand this is about more than politics, once you have seen the violence things become clear, when the violence starts its already too late.
And Indiana Jones. "Nazis. I hate Nazis!" Imagine telling movie goers that in 40 years those words will get you persecuted by the president of the US and by a large portion of his voter base and much of the media. Un-friggin- believable.
What's the betting that we see more of "that" salute from his followers, I also expect military parades later this year, maybe also require the way the military salute to change. It is the trappings of a fascistic dictator!
Elon has been very supportive the AFD in Germany. There can't be a more telling sign that he is sympathetic to the ideas behind that intentional salute. Remember he didnt just do it one time he did it twice.
Can you people except that these powerfull people will never give up power and money willingly? and governments are never taking it from them collectively? So there is only 1 solution take it from them at any cost. and i mean anything goes
Yes , people say the government should do this or that, but people forget the rich oligarchs are now the government , they are in control. They will do what is best for them .
Elon Musks EGO was destroyed after what happened with his son. He's declared WAR, and is a whole James Bond Villian now. Remember, he left patents open to increase electric car improvements. He's not that guy anymore. Everything since then he been different.
Really laugh outload , load of nonsense. Elon's Buzz lightyear salute is a nod to his Mars ambition. I am sure he would keep a flight seat for you Jimmy..
It is, of course, a mistake to draw nice neat lines from 40s Germany, thru the BNP and onwards to Musk et al. The reality is that he's found his own parallel path that ends up in much the same place. Reality often repeats itself but tends not to be so tidy in the causes.
I kinda get your point, but how different is that "parallel path" actually? Germany's '30s was all about economic desperation plus control of the media plus unlimited money from industrialists hoping to cash in on the turmoil.
@dayegilharno4988 Oh, not particularly different at all. I actually think Musk would be genuinely surprised or upset at comparisons to Goebbels while doing the exact same sort of enabling.
@@smorris12 Hmm... I think that we are beyond the point of giving him the benefit of the doubt by assuming that he is just an enabler. He's an enforcer, and he knows what he is doing, and what for.
@@dayegilharno4988 Indeed. It will be interesting to see if, driven by ego and criticism, he now will want to adopt and "rehabilitate" his newfound salute...
Who are the fascists? Is it the ones that jail people for comments they’ve made online? Is it the antisemites? Is it the ones that sensor, silence and cancel people. Is it the lying radical lefty biased media. I think everyone knows who the fascists are and I think Elon was saluting the left 😂
Wow youve the lost the plot, lay off this far left propaganda and return to sanity, or keep on making moronic comments and a fool of yourself if you prefer.
Are the people at X, Space X and Tesla ok with this? That the CEO or founder is doing this salute on stage is abhorrent and if it was a democrat there would be equal outrage except they'd be booted out of the companies as well
No it isn't. And stop overusing words like disturbing and alarming and whatever else. It's boring and not what is happening. You've all been calling them nazis for years, then all of a sudden he plays up to it and your shocked? 😂😂 grow up dear. Too soft
Which bits? This man has gone to great lengths and made great claims which to me certainly seem credible, you at least need to show why this is nonsense.
The salute is a smokescreen to hide in plain sight. Now all discourse about his role in society are about what his salute/communication and there all ready on the bandwagon to rebuff all press with the "free speech" argument. What people need to be looking at is his new role in government, how civil servant supporters of the other party are being treated and how his media control and views and relationship with the president is not to dissimilar to Joseph Goebells
All the limp Labour supporters here are spitting blood over Trump and Musk and it makes for great comedy. Making up stories only to convince their own.
Elon musk planned the salute before he went on stage
Yes, I have come across that information also. He is an old man and should know better regardless. Maybe it is an experiment on free speech or expression. Yet, if your pocketbook is not of a certian caliber, a free pass does not apply to you.
I would say he's probably practiced it in mirrors.... If he could have paid someone to do it for him, he would
Planned it his whole life.
I totally agree he is totally unhinged
I’d love to read the book but I’m too obsessed with everything going on already! Need something nice and fluffy instead!
A friend of mine’s Mum (Mexican, lived in US all her life) received a letter the day after the election, from the KKK telling her to leave. Yep. The US, the leader of the free world.
Is she legal ?
And you know they have no jurisdiction
But finally
You made that up 😂
@@dave2408 Foolish troll! Reported by The Independent, USA Today, Washington Post, Fox19 to name but a few..
@dave2408 It's in the news that police in Kentucky are investigating the KKK's distribution of leaflets etc calling for immigrants to leave. It happened and it's happening.
Also calling the America the leader of the free world is the most hilarious joke the US has ever come out with
Never happened
He owns one of the biggest social media networks and hasn't apologised. He 100% knew what he was doing.
lets all use that image as profile pic on x😂
@@itsyou5436you'd look like a supporter if you did that, despite the sentiment of 'never forgetting'.
It's a power flex, knowing they have so much power now and no one can do anything to stop them.
Everybody leaves X.
Why , is it cuz James said so , what a melt
The amount of mental gymnastics I've seen around Elon's salute is disturbing. If this guy is a "genius" then it follows that he knows exactly what he is doing.
So what’s he doing?
@@bananapeel234 Normalising fascism.
@outlawedgiraffeMake sure to tap your front door 33 times when you go out or the water pipes underneath your sink will leak and flood your house.
@@bananapeel234
Notice you didn't prove him wrong.
@@bananapeel234 Nurse! He's got his hands on the keyboard again!
I’m not religious but didn’t that lady priest, who presided at Trumps inauguration, just nail it. My new hero.
Yes she did
She was really brave to say that knowing how he reacts against people who stand up to him. I worry for her safety
@ Yes, if only more had her courage. Genuinely made my day, though proactive not Trumps.
She is a light in this darkness for me and I'm certainly no Christian either.
AMEN!
As a neurodivergent person, I am beyond offended that people are trying to say he did this because of autism. These people spend every other day of the year punching down on us but suddenly he gets the benefit of the doubt? And after all his well documented interactions with the far right
The people that say that are cult members gaslighting you and trying to justify it.
What's a neurodivergent person? Divergent from what?
I can see why Musks daughter despises him now
I'm not surprised, have you seen the names he's given them?
There used to be a joke... What gives kids a bad name......the Beckham's. The punchline needs to be changed to Elon Musk, he makes the Beckham's choice of child names look positively normal.
Son. Officially now✍️📝🏳️🌈👋
@@bananapeel234 He several children. It seems most don't like him.
12 kids.. they all hate him!
Wow! Curiouser and curiouser. I never knew Elon Musk had a trans daughter. Fascinating. This will no doubt feed into his feelings/opinions. I’ve just read that he was not happy with her for being too ‘feminine’ as a kid. So what? I don’t have a son, but if he were overtly ‘feminine’ it wouldn’t bother me one iota. Why do certain people get so anzty about the most trivial things? 🤷♂️
I find the stark difference between the responses regarding Kyrie Irving a few years ago and Elon Musk very ludicrous. The fact that the ADL bent their knee and gave a justification for what Musk did really demonstrates rich white male privilege. Where are the calls for condemnation?
@ADadSupreme 😂😂 no, but nice catch!
@@ADadSupremeIt doesn't help that he popped up in Iron man 2 promising he and Tony would work on an electric jet together lol 😅
The ADL only cares about Israel. Musk is pro-Israel so they'll back him up. It's really quite simple.
I think it demonstrates an unhoy alliance/marriage that took place a long time ago with respect of time feeling like ages ago.
The ADL is more concerned with being a pro-Israel lobby than woth actually fighting anti-semitism. They often turn a blind eye to right wing anti-semitism which is often pro-Israel.
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” John Kenneth Galbraith
Sweet..👌🤘
Exactly
Gives rise to luigism
Great quote. Hadn't heard this one before
Selfish indifference to reality is not what I imagined my nation would die of... But here we are.
The ADL has no credibility left. However, they (ADL) love to go after black folks.
What's ADL?
Check out the ADL,s sister CAN , they are a real doozie
Twice I’ve left a comment about who funds the ADL and TH-cam has deleted both comments.
@@edmurth I looked it up, sorry. 👍
@@edmurth i mentioned shark island and they erased it. Something nefarious is happening
You probably wouldn't believe the cathartic effect of having everything confirmed, that I have been yelling into the wind for 30 years without getting any useful feedback from anybody in my orbit.
Me too Bud....
Seriously have Empathy for Cassandra of Troy....
They don't listen to people like us even tho we have the best amd most honest breakdown of them as a group.
1488 seig heil
@ The "honesty" and most important the honesty towards oneself and one's thinking and fundamental believes - and one's limitations - being key!
I recently changed my testament from ‚no grave‘ to a tombstone with ‚told you so‘ engraved.
Doesn’t give too much pleasure to be right and right again.
It was a DR STRANGELOVE moment. He could not stop himself.
Yep
Ja mein Führer 😂 sry i mean my president 😂
Self control isn’t in Elon’s reality.
"I CAN WALK!"
People don’t realize what they voted for because they didn’t think that they would be affected by it.
My thoughts exactly mle6501, Labour voters were warned but still they still voted for it anyway. Now we all are affected by it. But that's how the system works I guess and it is what it is for now.
They didn't vote for sabotaging elon. Fool.
If you vote for the 'Leopards Eating Peoples Faces' party, don't be shocked when eventually they come for your face...
@@darkstatehkWe'd be saying the same thing if Reform UK won. The country would still be in a state after 6 months, and they wouldn't have fixed anything. Then all the Labour voters could sit and say "I told you so".
Who was the alternative to Labour this time around? It wasn't the Tories, they caused the mess. It wasn't the Lib Dems because they'd just drag up the whole Brexit debate again and we'd get nothing done. It certainly wasn't Reform, who seem to think that cutting taxes by £90bn while committing to £50bn in new spending would fix an already fragile fiscal situation. Where does that £140bn come from, if you're not happy with the measures taken to fix a £20bn deficit. Where does it come from?
At least Labour are taking unpopular decisions, in an attempt to fix underlying issues. There are no easy fixes and if you're falling for the people who tell you that everything is easy, then you're more naïve than any Labour voter.
@@darkstatehk We'd be saying the same thing if Reform UK won. The country would still be in a state after 6 months, and they wouldn't have fixed anything. Then all the Labour voters could sit and say "I told you so".
Who was the alternative to Labour this time around? It wasn't the Tories, they caused the mess. It wasn't the Lib Dems because they'd just drag up the whole Brexit debate again and we'd get nothing done. It certainly wasn't Reform, who seem to think that cutting taxes by £90bn while committing to £50bn in new spending would fix an already fragile fiscal situation. Where does that £140bn come from, if you're not happy with the measures taken to fix a £20bn deficit. Where does it come from?
At least Labour are taking unpopular decisions, in an attempt to fix underlying issues. There are no easy fixes and anyone falling for the people who tell them that everything is easy, is more naïve than any Labour voter.
People should just stop using x
thats not the issue
If Twitter was still around, Trump would have lost by 2% to 3% . Musk owning Twitter changed the way the 2024 election was covered
We should get all our information from impartial LBC 😅
@@Varley-k1nAbsolutely, compared to the right wing propaganda machine people like yourself are controlled by.
Done... I deactivated my account yesterday. I can't stand that my data is adding value to Musk's horseshit platform.
They use X because there's far less manipulation. Even Zuckerberg is backing down with fact checks that simply lie.
Just as tRump's "Stand back and stand by" activated the proud boys, Leon knew what this gesture would do.
Cause this sort of video to be put on TH-cam.
the salute wasnt an accident but his birth was
😂😂👍🏻
Aye if only his Mom had the option of you know what up to nine months. Shame America voted against that ..
*BALD* ✨
@@bananapeel234he was born in South Africa.
Elon is part of the process which pushes the boundaries so eventually everyone becomes use to it
Well said!
Overton window shifters
NEVER
Not for me. Definitely for the far-right and their shills in the MSM.
I’m in the never crowd.
What an excellent interview!
That's what they seem to be doing. They do little ''accidents'' here and there, they test the terrains until something sticks.
And because it distracts the media from talking about the actually important things. You know, like this channel is doing right now
This should terrify everyone.
“The salute seen around the world!”
No denying it Elon!
GB News and Farage should use it as a greeting to their audience if they think it's such a heart felt gesture of appreciation.
Don't give them any ideas ,it will encourage them even more
They do it in secret already
And he Farage did king wouldn’t allow Farage into power and the king does have the power to refuse to appoint him
They arent thanking a massive crowd in a stadium though are they you drip.
@sonofsomerset1695 No, they would be thanking millions of people in their homes. Hope this helps.
nothing has changed since 1930!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh things have changed alright, but people haven't!
He threw the second one up to his handlers like he just won the hoop game in American History X and Stacy Keach was in the stands.
That movie is becoming more relevant these days …
Please, all Brits, get on Blue Sky and help us support this anti-trump/musk movement. We have more anti-trump people who can not stand what is happening to this new regime. Our Electoral College has failed us. We are headed for very dark times and this is not what Americans support.
Trump won the popular vote. Your electoral college didn't fail you. Your population failed the whole world.
Same goes for FB users. Stop supporting evil.
No, you can live in your echo chamber if you want, the rest of us are grown up enough to deal with actual debate.
@AnexSeer: Data Scientist Stephen Spoonamore is adamant that the election was HACKED for a Trump win.
View his interview on TH-cam with Thom Hartman, from mid-November.
He says, "Prove Me Wrong."
Read the article by Spoonamore in SALON: Duty to Warn-Letter to VP Harris/election 2024.
You'll question results, having done so.
@MrFoggy13 It's not a debate when the owners get to censor and direct the conversation at their whim, as both Musk and Zuckerberg have openly done. You're the one in the bubble - wake up.
The name Heritage Foundation peek my interest because in 1994 a hate speech called The Ballad of Malcolm X was given to grade 10 students as English assignment. The Toronto school board came out to defend themselves saying the material didn't come from them.
I liken Heritage Foundation to the kkk
they are its modern day incarnation
They were also the primary backers and architects of the policies from the Reagan administration.
It still shocks me that so few people have so much power. Its not as though they're intellectually superior. They're selfish and power hungry. How? Why?
Yes and just completely dismiss the man’s entrepreneurial will and creative ambitions. Musk didn’t become rich by accident. I know it’s fashionable to hate the guy but be objective…
I can't believe how many black and especially Hispanic men voted for Trump
The majority of adult Americans read on the level of a fifth grader. This no coincidence given how their education system has evolved.
Being extremely gullible has no race limits
@@dweb There is a reason the US had a popular TV show that ran for 12 years.
Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader?
People cause their own misfortune.
The majority of people in London and Los Angeles vote for Leftists then blame all their problems on Trump.
Great interview. We must all be alarmed by this.
😂
Keep crying
I honestly think some people need a history lesson about how the Holocaust began and maybe a compulsory trip Auschwitz.... because they might laugh, but putting people in gas ovens was a thing....
Kamala did it 😂
@E_Rex_Sean
You're not making any sense.
I'm not sure if this was the plan, but Elon's over the top freak behavior seems to be having the effect of making Trump seem somewhat normal by comparison.
The Anti Defamation League has essentially endorsed these gestures...
No too X they don't need our money.
It was no accident at all. Yes they try to normalize abuse.
I have seen a lot of of the apologetics for Elmo, and none of it stands up very well - if you take it in context with everything else he has said, and everything else he has done
You mean the context where he was thanking and literally throwing his heart out to a stadium full of people, there, oh yeah, now its in context the left do look like morons you're correct.
The rise of the far right has been predictable for quite some time now and everybody said "You're being hysterical!", "It'd never happen here!" and "You're just being paranoid!". We're about to find out in real time the fate of those miners who choose to ignore, or even curse, the canary when it starts to panic.
So, is the far right people that do the salute? I just wonder what policies you are worried are far right? Or is it just the salute you’re worried about?
Make 1984 fiction again!
It has happened in response to be taken advantage of! If the lefties hadn't pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed we would not feel the need to push back!!!!!!!!!!!!
left wing ideas are destructive, right wing ideas are mostly common sense so I do hope the left decreases😁
Imagine having all that money but still being as miserable as musk seems to be.
Very, very worrying.
It’s terrifying. That salute is so so dangerous. Next thing you know other people are doing it. And then, other people will be doing it. Before you know it, other people are doing it and then loads of people are raising their hand on the air. Which is terrifying. Hands. In the air. Terrifying
@ Well it probably wasn’t terrifying in 1936, but was most definitely in 1939 don’t you think?
By 1936 members of the public were expected to use the sign as a greeting.
@ I know. Look at the old clips. All smiling 😊
Yet another reason to hate crypto
Elon Musk is Goebbels for the Trump base.
Those parallels are barely there.. but worth keeping an eye on.
Our grandparents said Never Again
If you dislike being called a duck, then stop quacking.
What a great interview
My other account was just shadow banned for nothing more than naming the gesture that Elon did. It is not a crime or even a curse word to name that gesture in the U.S. yet YT bans people for speaking out about it. Why would that be?
TH-cam’s repression of alternative views to fascism is much more subtle but it’s there.
People with that much power don't have to hold back. True colour's unleashed....
Especially once they’ve realized there’s no consequences.
What irks me a bit is that the factors which drove these people to the extreme-right were... right-wing. Yes, we've been more socially liberal over the last century. But the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer is extremely right-wing (justified by the striving of the individual on the false basis that the wealthy deserve to be wealthy despite a large portion of them being feckless menchildren). So these people who are fed up with liberalism are actually fed up with right-wing policy, and are supporting people who plan to make it worse.
Worse compared to what?
@@riancreamer6904 You mean you cant see that?
Exactly
From the heart is both hand flung wide from your sternum. I've been to thousands of Gigs, Plays, Opera, Theatre, Concerts etc. never once seen a flat hand arm outstretched sign of thanks to a crowd.
They're anarcho capitalists, which is an oxymoron but it's a extreme profiteering type of capitalist libertarianism.
true they do not believe in democracy and government.
How is anarcho-capitalism oxymoronic?
Truth, finally someone who understands who these people are, for most people the far right are just a side of politics, others who have seen what the NF and EDL are capable of understand this is about more than politics, once you have seen the violence things become clear, when the violence starts its already too late.
My oldest is almost 5 years old and for the first time ever I’m having some regrets bringing two beautiful little girls into this mess.
😂😂😂😂😂 get a grip
The world has never been perfect. We and the generation coming will survive.
I’ve two gorgeous little boys under 5 myself and I’m terrified for them.
@@chookzthe world never had the capacity to destroy itself than it has today .. that's the difference
Understandable especially with the far right view is your body their choice
We need to go back to when Allo, Allo and the Blues Brothers ridiculed Nazis
And Indiana Jones. "Nazis. I hate Nazis!" Imagine telling movie goers that in 40 years those words will get you persecuted by the president of the US and by a large portion of his voter base and much of the media. Un-friggin- believable.
Elon is the biggest clown Iv seen recently, he makes Trump look sane
JAmes uses he voice of logic and reason so well. Been an avid lister since the pandemic, great work.
O'Brien was at the forefront of the campaign against Jeremy Corbyn who offered an alternative.
To Trump?
@@jaimemurphy2208to international fascism. Corbyn was the last shot labour had and now they’re paying the price (3rd place?)
@@asdfkgkspr284 Corbyn didn't help himself, or us. He gave Johnson a large majority and so enabled Brexit.
@@weswheel4834 Yeah, if he didn't drag his feet on Brexit and actually tried to work with other parties in 2019, things could've been different!
[The establishment opposed him as he challenged them. He received more votes than Labour in the last election.]
What's the betting that we see more of "that" salute from his followers, I also expect military parades later this year, maybe also require the way the military salute to change. It is the trappings of a fascistic dictator!
If youre on twitter you condone
All U.S far right whingers are ‘saluting’ his salute
I like "right whingers" 😂😂
Great discussion.
Elon has been very supportive the AFD in Germany. There can't be a more telling sign that he is sympathetic to the ideas behind that intentional salute. Remember he didnt just do it one time he did it twice.
Day one.CHAOS.💀💀💀
Fascinating, chilling interview. Well done.
Can you people except that these powerfull people will never give up power and money willingly? and governments are never taking it from them collectively? So there is only 1 solution take it from them at any cost. and i mean anything goes
Yes , people say the government should do this or that, but people forget the rich oligarchs are now the government , they are in control. They will do what is best for them .
...accept not except...
@ thank you that was the important issue
@@kingdomfor1the struggle also is deciding what to do afterwards.
@ first take these guys out in a way that shows the people won't take this any longer
Elon Musks EGO was destroyed after what happened with his son. He's declared WAR, and is a whole James Bond Villian now. Remember, he left patents open to increase electric car improvements. He's not that guy anymore. Everything since then he been different.
Money over people. Money comes money gose.They will loose.
‘Crisis of Civilisation’ documentary film by Dr Nafeez Ahmed is superb.
I predicted the same after the 2008 global financial crisis as before far right was much rare in the fringes
The old saying( may be paraphrased), you can judge a man's character by the company he keeps.
A very intelligent speaker!
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Really laugh outload , load of nonsense. Elon's Buzz lightyear salute is a nod to his Mars ambition. I am sure he would keep a flight seat for you Jimmy..
He bought Twitter because he wanted to unban his friends.
And ban those who disagree with him...
Anyone who's been in the truth movement knows exactly what's happening
thank you very much for this interview.
Yes, Lefties Losing it never gets old!
This crap's been brewing since the late 70's! 'They' played the long game and now its getting easier and easier to join the dots. Is it too late?
It is, of course, a mistake to draw nice neat lines from 40s Germany, thru the BNP and onwards to Musk et al. The reality is that he's found his own parallel path that ends up in much the same place.
Reality often repeats itself but tends not to be so tidy in the causes.
I kinda get your point, but how different is that "parallel path" actually? Germany's '30s was all about economic desperation plus control of the media plus unlimited money from industrialists hoping to cash in on the turmoil.
@dayegilharno4988 Oh, not particularly different at all. I actually think Musk would be genuinely surprised or upset at comparisons to Goebbels while doing the exact same sort of enabling.
@@smorris12 Hmm... I think that we are beyond the point of giving him the benefit of the doubt by assuming that he is just an enabler. He's an enforcer, and he knows what he is doing, and what for.
@@dayegilharno4988 Indeed. It will be interesting to see if, driven by ego and criticism, he now will want to adopt and "rehabilitate" his newfound salute...
@@smorris12 Seems like others will do the sane-washing for him atm...
Musk and Bezos and Zuckerberg and Trump must meet an army of Luigi's!
James, you’re scaring the kids mate.
Ofcourse it wasn't. It was clear message to the ADF.
Who can see JOB snickering and not think "any means necessary"?
The worst thing is this is not even headline on news channels. They just turned a blind eye like this appalling behaviour never happened!
What can we possibly do to combat this?
Luigi
@@ColorfulCynic Mario
Nothing
Well revolutions happen for a reason. So yeah. That.
Stop listening to this far left propaganda nonsense for starters.
He doesn't sound like he's in the Far Right
What a load of 💩
They certainly normalised it in ukraine
Really appreciate james’ coverage of the return of fascism, so many other journalists are dropping the ball entirely.
Who are the fascists?
Is it the ones that jail people for comments they’ve made online?
Is it the antisemites?
Is it the ones that sensor, silence and cancel people.
Is it the lying radical lefty biased media.
I think everyone knows who the fascists are and I think Elon was saluting the left 😂
Wow youve the lost the plot, lay off this far left propaganda and return to sanity, or keep on making moronic comments and a fool of yourself if you prefer.
His salute was Leakage. He was at a Cult event and felt comfortable
Are the people at X, Space X and Tesla ok with this?
That the CEO or founder is doing this salute on stage is abhorrent and if it was a democrat there would be equal outrage except they'd be booted out of the companies as well
They're complicit. As are Tesla drivers.
I am also a salute expert, and i can categorically confirm this to be a Salute Romano.
If he is intelligent as everyone says he is, It is hard for me to believe that he didn't know what he did?!
Guess what. Trump invite Eric Zemmour and Farrage. That shows how this guy is extreme far right.
Its very disturbing.
😂 the fragile minds of the far left never gets old. Get a grip & live in the real world
No it isn't.
And stop overusing words like disturbing and alarming and whatever else. It's boring and not what is happening. You've all been calling them nazis for years, then all of a sudden he plays up to it and your shocked? 😂😂 grow up dear. Too soft
typical left hysteria
Can we pay a woman to pretend to be in love with Musk so he stops acting like such a bitter loser?
The guest lost me when he portrayed Gates and Soros as upstanding citizens.
exactly, so now you know almost everything he said was utterly false
The defenders are on the wrong side of history and they don't realise...yet.
Ive never heard so much nonsense in my whole life
Which bits? This man has gone to great lengths and made great claims which to me certainly seem credible, you at least need to show why this is nonsense.
Perhaps the shared ideology should be to stop the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and reverse it.
Well, it looks like the ' Argumentum ad Hitlerum ' is no longer a fallacy anymore...
Always interesting James.
When will the Trump and Elon fanboys just come out the closet. Like we get it, you're not fooling anyone.
The salute is a smokescreen to hide in plain sight. Now all discourse about his role in society are about what his salute/communication and there all ready on the bandwagon to rebuff all press with the "free speech" argument. What people need to be looking at is his new role in government, how civil servant supporters of the other party are being treated and how his media control and views and relationship with the president is not to dissimilar to Joseph Goebells
Terrifying
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Literal children knew it wasn't an accident.
All the limp Labour supporters here are spitting blood over Trump and Musk and it makes for great comedy. Making up stories only to convince their own.