A have a 3 inch lift on my Subaru Outback and I Awesome have a Hitch gate solo and a winch I love my Subaru and I like seeing Other people have sun with their car to.
Not sure if you still check or answer comments but I've seen you had Toyo OPEN COUNTRY A/T III at one point and BFG TA KO'S which one did you prefer. I have a very similar set up on mine and string to decide which ones to go with. Thanks for any insight.
Did you lose power when accélérating with the lift and the bigger tires?? I plan to do the same to my forester..i have the rims already but havnt decided on a tiré yet..i dont have a ton to spend do you have any suggestions ??
Hey I own a 2015 XT and looking at getting some tires like those especially during the summer. Do you like them quite a bit for off road? How do they handle in the snow as well? Up in Montana.
I don't have them on my Forester yet, but the KO2 is pretty much *the* standard, benchmark all-terrain tire by which all others are judged right now. It's well known to be civilized on the road, provide excellent off-road traction, and be very good in snow. I may cheap out and go with Kuhmo AT51's because a set in 235/65-17 is $150-$200 cheaper, but you can't beat those BFG's. I had an older version on my Trooper and they were money. Lift+ tires on my 2015 this spring or summer, can't wait! I probably won't go down to 15's because I don't go off-road that much and can't justify the cost. The rims in the vid look great though!
The standard height King springs only give about 1/2" of lift. The lift spring version adds more height, but the factory struts are limited in how much height can be added via the spring. A spring lift is better, but the availability of the non-standard height springs was little to none at the time I did these mods.
In hindsight I'm not sure I answered your general question. Take 2... in general the lift spacers just give the vehicle more height. They do not give the suspension any better performance or travel. Taller and/or improved springs will give better ride quality and more travel at the risk of potentially overextending the factory strut. With these unibody vehicles there aren't many other options other than these two listed. As opposed to body on frame vehicles like Wranglers, Tacomas, etc the suspension options are great.
I’m thinking about going with the king springs hoping that it will fix the problem. I have the mr502 wrapped with 235/70/15 but after I installed it, I feel like the suspension is a little bouncy. I was hoping that this springs would solve the problem. I have a baby on the way, do u think this would make it a bit comfortable than stock springs?
So what did you decide to do with the lift kit as far as the squat in the rear. I’m interested to no the amount of squat vs weight in the rear and how you plan to counter that. I’m curious to no how much squat it would have with the vehicle full of adults? I don’t necessarily want more height, just less squat.
Maybe a little more squat with your peeps in the back, but weight between the wheels don't have nearly as much effect as hanging weight off the back, like a hitch and spare setup. "Saggy butt" 3/8" spacers are pretty affordable and should work with stock hardware, or you can make your own for like $10.
@UMepher... ya, I think what I will eventually do, is a 1 inch spring lift, just to get some more clearance. Then eventually I do want to get a hitch mounted spare tire carrier. Once I get that all done. I’ll check the squat and maybe add a spacer just to the rear to adjust for the squat from the tire carrier. Then when I have a full car load, I’ll take the tire carrier off and then hopefully my adjustment will still be close enough so that the rear end sits close to level.
How many miles did you have on the car before you lifted it? I just lifted my outback with king springs and one inch spacers. I have camber issues, the car wobbles and now have a more noticeable vibration..... Some report issues some don't so im just wondering your mileage before the lift. Thanks
My Forester seems to suck pretty bad in windy conditions, even at stock height. It's bad enough already that I can't see a lift making it much worse, haha. You're getting it off the ground a bit more but not drastically so, and the actual surface are of the side isn't increasing.
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When you lift independent suspension, you actually decrease body roll and trade that for jacking forces.
You could ise spring rubbers in the rear.
Move your spare tyre to the roof and add stiffer springs to the rear end. Done ...
A have a 3 inch lift on my Subaru Outback and I Awesome have a Hitch gate solo and a winch I love my Subaru and I like seeing Other people have sun with their car to.
Also don't forget behind it look squating but the wheel passage is smaller compare to the front
Love the snow driving video. Texas does not see snow often, mostly sleet & freezing rain.
lol
Hi! Does your car have the eyesight tech? Was it affected when it was lifted?
Hey just to chime in way late. Wife has a 4" lifted Forester with eyesight and no issues
Raise the rear ,like u said we don't buy foresters to be a race car, also would love to see that thing in the mud .
your foz looks great with the lift/wheel combo
Thx!
I have same sticker decal but didn’t put it on crosstrek yet cuz winter
You live in a beautiful town. Where is this? And I love the houses that just look amazing with the snow.
Not sure if you still check or answer comments but I've seen you had Toyo OPEN COUNTRY A/T III at one point and BFG TA KO'S which one did you prefer. I have a very similar set up on mine and string to decide which ones to go with. Thanks for any insight.
Do you think it would be stiff enough to remove the rear sway bar and not affect handling at higher speeds adversely, or too difficult to say?
what type of camber bolts did you use to alline the front end
did you lift the body with spacers along with the new struts?
If it was to start over the job would you change the front king spring
Did you lose power when accélérating with the lift and the bigger tires?? I plan to do the same to my forester..i have the rims already but havnt decided on a tiré yet..i dont have a ton to spend do you have any suggestions ??
How did it affect the fuel economy?
Are you going to go bigger on the tires at all or keep with those? Looks great!
FreedomSlaves I debated jumping to 30x9.5-15” but I like the on and off road manners of these. If it had a turbo I might think harder on it.
@@HighjakSecondary what size tires do you have. How does the 2.0 non turbo engine handle them on and off the road
How does it affect your mpg
With the 2in lift did the KO2 235/75r15 end up rubbing?.
It'll look nice if you put mud flaps. No exhaust mods in the near future?
What your gas mileage like?
What's the suspension/springs your running?
Hey I own a 2015 XT and looking at getting some tires like those especially during the summer. Do you like them quite a bit for off road? How do they handle in the snow as well? Up in Montana.
I don't have them on my Forester yet, but the KO2 is pretty much *the* standard, benchmark all-terrain tire by which all others are judged right now. It's well known to be civilized on the road, provide excellent off-road traction, and be very good in snow. I may cheap out and go with Kuhmo AT51's because a set in 235/65-17 is $150-$200 cheaper, but you can't beat those BFG's. I had an older version on my Trooper and they were money. Lift+ tires on my 2015 this spring or summer, can't wait! I probably won't go down to 15's because I don't go off-road that much and can't justify the cost. The rims in the vid look great though!
Do the tires and wheels fit or rub without the list kit? Can the wheels be used with stock suspension?
You answered my question in another video... Thanks!
What’s the difference of using the lift springs to just buying 2 inch spacers?
The standard height King springs only give about 1/2" of lift. The lift spring version adds more height, but the factory struts are limited in how much height can be added via the spring. A spring lift is better, but the availability of the non-standard height springs was little to none at the time I did these mods.
In hindsight I'm not sure I answered your general question. Take 2... in general the lift spacers just give the vehicle more height. They do not give the suspension any better performance or travel. Taller and/or improved springs will give better ride quality and more travel at the risk of potentially overextending the factory strut. With these unibody vehicles there aren't many other options other than these two listed. As opposed to body on frame vehicles like Wranglers, Tacomas, etc the suspension options are great.
I’m thinking about going with the king springs hoping that it will fix the problem. I have the mr502 wrapped with 235/70/15 but after I installed it, I feel like the suspension is a little bouncy. I was hoping that this springs would solve the problem. I have a baby on the way, do u think this would make it a bit comfortable than stock springs?
Are you lifted?
So what did you decide to do with the lift kit as far as the squat in the rear. I’m interested to no the amount of squat vs weight in the rear and how you plan to counter that. I’m curious to no how much squat it would have with the vehicle full of adults? I don’t necessarily want more height, just less squat.
Maybe a little more squat with your peeps in the back, but weight between the wheels don't have nearly as much effect as hanging weight off the back, like a hitch and spare setup. "Saggy butt" 3/8" spacers are pretty affordable and should work with stock hardware, or you can make your own for like $10.
@UMepher... ya, I think what I will eventually do, is a 1 inch spring lift, just to get some more clearance. Then eventually I do want to get a hitch mounted spare tire carrier. Once I get that all done. I’ll check the squat and maybe add a spacer just to the rear to adjust for the squat from the tire carrier. Then when I have a full car load, I’ll take the tire carrier off and then hopefully my adjustment will still be close enough so that the rear end sits close to level.
Nice! Would u be installing the undercarriage armor plates too?
Already done. See previous install videos.
How many miles did you have on the car before you lifted it? I just lifted my outback with king springs and one inch spacers. I have camber issues, the car wobbles and now have a more noticeable vibration.....
Some report issues some don't so im just wondering your mileage before the lift. Thanks
Around 40k. I have no issues at all with this lift - something is screwy with yours it sounds.
Thanks for the video. What size tires are you running? I’m putting my lift on this weekend.
Jonathon Nichols LT235/75r15
235/75r15 Linked in video description too. :)
How'd the lift go? What did you use, and did you do it yourself?
With a 2" or 3" lift, do you also need longer brakelines? Or just the 6pcs lift kit?
My 2" lift came with new extended brake line brackets. I didn't need new brake lines.
@@HighjakSecondary thanks!
How did you install 15" wheels without interference with calipers
The factory calipers on the 2.5i are more than small enough to fit the 15" rally style wheels.
I have XT and they have larger calipers. Maybe I can get 16"
@@HighjakSecondary
What do you torque your wheels at?
What's your tire profile/size?
These were 235/75r15.
Wow!
Two whole inches!
I drive a forester and that is funny.
Have you taken it on a really windy highway?
Many times
My Forester seems to suck pretty bad in windy conditions, even at stock height. It's bad enough already that I can't see a lift making it much worse, haha. You're getting it off the ground a bit more but not drastically so, and the actual surface are of the side isn't increasing.
@@UMepher No complaints here in that aspect. My wider stance with +15mm wheels doesn't hurt.