Vampire Massacre - The First Aerial Battle of the 1965 Indo-Pakistani War

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  • @showtime112
    @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

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    • @ddegn
      @ddegn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

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      Good luck and thanks for making this interesting video. The Vampire sure looks cool even if it is out classed by the other fighters.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ddegn Actually, it was my Thrustmaster contact who suggested me to do it this way. I kept asking for a viewer discount and he kept saying they couldn't do it. Eventually, he said literally 'It's your money and you can do whatever you want with it. You can pay the viewers a part of your commission after you make it'. So, this is approved, don't worry.

    • @shantanunewse2118
      @shantanunewse2118 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Reality The Indian Air Force did not realize the Sabre Threat in the initial phase and put these outdated aircraft against them, there was loss of life and tragically those family lost their men.... No one ever knows their bodies were received or not.. Sad but a blunder...

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @traucoGonzalez
    @traucoGonzalez 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    It was perhaps 1956, I was at school , when there comes 5 Vampires flying very low , their silver metal shining in the sun, the noise was deafening, it was the first time jets flew over my city. Many boys and girls crying terrorized , I was elated and there , with 5 years of age I made my decision, I wanted to be a pilot . I was very lucky and could accomplish my dream. Retired after flying more than 35 K hours and 8K hours as instructor on simulators.

    • @ddegn
      @ddegn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Very cool.

    • @frenzalrhomb6919
      @frenzalrhomb6919 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      You're a very lucky man. I remember seeing the movie "The Red Baron" at a drive-in with my parents in the very early 1970s. I suppose I was between 6-8 years old. I really, really, wanted to be a pilot, but life just didn't take me in that direction. Although, I have, for the last 20 years, taken at least one light aircraft "joy flight," where you go to the airport and hire a Cesna and the pilot. It's expensive, $1500 an hour, but it's better than a holiday to me .
      I think there's still a child in all of us, and I get a big thrill out of being in a small aircraft, and you can see so much more than when you're in a passenger aircraft. But I think I will always want to be "The Red Barron"

    • @Guilhermetmfranco
      @Guilhermetmfranco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      This is awesome!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Thank you for sharing your experience! I'm sure Vampires inspired a bunch of future pilots.

    • @frenzalrhomb6919
      @frenzalrhomb6919 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@showtime112
      Oh, for sure. They all flew like a "Bat Outta Hell."
      And, when viewed from the ground looking up, they'd look like a massive bat flying over you, I'd say!
      Just lucky they didn't go "batshit." OOo, Messy!

  • @billmasquelier9208
    @billmasquelier9208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +157

    I was (an American 14 year old) in Karachi when the war started.
    We sat on our rooftop in a "blacked out" Karachi and watched the jets zoom around overhead. One night my dad light a cigarette and the match flare was the brightest thing out there! A couple of circling jets turned and headed for us. My dad put out the cigarette and my mom herded us all inside. We were evacuated two days later in a PIA 707 with an F86 Saber on each wingtip. Interesting summer!

    • @laulaksiddique6160
      @laulaksiddique6160 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      That was on the 7th September. My cousin was also evacuated that day. Our whole family went to see him off. There were repeated air raid sirens. Finally the Boejng 707 took off during an air raid, and the runway lights came on for just a few seconds. The airplane took off very quickly. I was a child then, but remember everything. There were 7 air raids that night.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Thank you for sharing your experience! A pretty memorable one, I'd say :)

    • @tryarunm
      @tryarunm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your jackass of a father provoked a strike that, at the very least, destroyed private property . Did he restore it? Have you?

    • @i-love-space390
      @i-love-space390 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Smoking will kill you.

    • @tryarunm
      @tryarunm หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@billmasquelier9208 oh my god

  • @peterasp1968
    @peterasp1968 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    Expecting a Vampire to tangle with a Sabre which had a 200 mph speed advantage would be like expecting a Gladiator to take on a Bf 109G.

    • @dominiqueroudier9401
      @dominiqueroudier9401 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Or F4F vs bf109G liké in Spring 1945 in Norway. 4 bf109G-10 or 14 shot down in dogfight. Wildcat pilotes applied thé "Zéro" tactics

    • @sailordude2094
      @sailordude2094 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I have a feeling Gladiators tangled with Bf-109s in WW2.

    • @wirelessone2986
      @wirelessone2986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@dominiqueroudier9401Please be more clear.WHAT happened in the spring of 1945 and where...?

    • @_____Z_____
      @_____Z_____ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2 gb ram power 😂

    • @peterasp1968
      @peterasp1968 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sailordude2094 Might have but the results may have been just as one sided.

  • @FRIEND_711
    @FRIEND_711 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Always nice to hear stories about the Indo-Pakistani war, its rather not talked about as much compared to other wars during the 20th century.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks, buddy! Those are pretty overlooked conflicts (outside of the region they took place in)

  • @johnsmith-ht3sy
    @johnsmith-ht3sy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    In the 1970s Rhodesian Bush war Vampires were still in use. Not air to air but air to ground.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I suppose these guys had a hard time getting any equipment.

    • @johnsmith-ht3sy
      @johnsmith-ht3sy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@showtime112 Yes under sanctions, but their neighbour South Africa supplied them, with parts and ammunition. South Africa also had sanctions, parts for their Mirage jets bought from Argentina, arrived in crates marked agriculture equipment. Sanction busting became a sport.

    • @cvr527
      @cvr527 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      There was no air to air in the Rhodesian war.

    • @george-ev1dq
      @george-ev1dq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ireland used them up until 1975

    • @willy_wombat
      @willy_wombat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Switserland used them as trainers till 1990 !
      They were so lovingly maintained that they looked like new. ❤

  • @StevenMRA
    @StevenMRA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Your videos are *incredibly* polished - you've really developed your craft as a video and presenter on your channel. Love the channel and your style of storytelling.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Thank you very much! This is high praise indeed!

  • @Bob-b7x6v
    @Bob-b7x6v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    I saw a Vampire at Willow Run's airshow one year. Hard to believe a jet had that much laminated wood around it. DeHavilland used wood for their aircraft into the 50s.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @BlackMaria61
      @BlackMaria61 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      into the 60's, Sea Vixen was wood too

    • @TheMVberyl
      @TheMVberyl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Not for the Vampire.

    • @george-ev1dq
      @george-ev1dq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      the Vampire was of all metal construction

    • @BlackMaria61
      @BlackMaria61 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@george-ev1dq no it wasn't !! Have you ever seen one? Knock on the front , sounds like a wooden box ! Obviously some bits had to be metal but it used the same wooden construction techniques as the Mosquito, so you had an aircraft which was much lighter than the all metal equivalent with subsequent performance advantages, plus the added advantage of using non strategic materials .

  • @reinharthertz2526
    @reinharthertz2526 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    I don't know about Vampires ... but I worked with some Pakistani pilots at Luke AFB when they were transitioning from the Sabre to the F-16 in the early '80s ... and those Pak pilots still LOVED their Sabres and were reluctant to give them up ... even though they were getting an outstanding bird in the F-16 "Lawn Dart" ...

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I can totally understand that. Men have a tendency to get attached to their machines 😁

    • @Mmjk14751
      @Mmjk14751 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@showtime112 Funnily enough modern Pakistani pilots have the same attachment with the F-16.

    • @fbve
      @fbve 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Weird US politics! Why providing F16 to such a country. Inexplicable.

    • @asmetkarzai9796
      @asmetkarzai9796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@fbve "Such a country" used to be West's strongest Non-NATO ally against the expansionist Soviet Union.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@asmetkarzai9796 ..and yet they are one of the most fundamentalistic nations around, who's citezens largely prefer supporting terrorists & their religious warfare upon anyone they wish, and if they don't get caught doing so; upon their own female relatives for any perceived community infractions 'of family honour'.
      ...while politically are tied to the PRC/CCP & purse-strings, their military ride the fence between PRC & USA harder than the young boys they abuse behind the walls of their religious schools, whom use that abusement to light the flames of vengence upon others not of their religion of abuse.

  • @carlhicksjr8401
    @carlhicksjr8401 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This battle happened roughly a year after I was born. Now, I'm a lifelong military historian but I admit that the India-Pakistani battles are a blank spot for me. Being an American, I'm more up on Central America than the Indian Subcontinent.
    These videos help fill in that blank spot and I very much appreciate your work on them.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm glad to hear the videos are useful, thank you!

  • @i.setyawan
    @i.setyawan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Cool! Not much content is available on the Vampire, so it's really nice to see them in action.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! I'll cover the Vampire involvement in the Suez Crisis as well. Not sure when :)

  • @Billi-8-m1g
    @Billi-8-m1g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Bad day to be a Vampire Pilot

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      You could say it was a bad decade 😁

  • @TheLincolnshireFlyer
    @TheLincolnshireFlyer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Love the Vampire ever since I read The Shepherd by Frederick Forsyth.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for the feedback!

    • @voivod6871
      @voivod6871 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I also read that book about 45 years ago I think it was a very short novel about a ghost plane.

    • @c6h5choh-cn82
      @c6h5choh-cn82 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I read The Shepherd too in a Reader's Digest copy. Years later I learned Frederick Forsyth composed the story because his wife wanted a ghost story as her birthday present.

    • @GordonDonaldson-v1c
      @GordonDonaldson-v1c 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is an animated film based on The Shepherd. I watched it on YooChoob. Well worth watching!

  • @Bob-b7x6v
    @Bob-b7x6v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Those Sabers chopped through the Vampires like chainsaws.

  • @muslehuddinbilal3548
    @muslehuddinbilal3548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I'm much honoured to meet sir Imtiaz Bhatti. What an impressive and exemplary personality. Alas, he left for his final abode a few months ago.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you for sharing your experience and information related to the topic!

    • @muslehuddinbilal3548
      @muslehuddinbilal3548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@showtime112 i heard the story from sir bhatti

    • @rtx-2099
      @rtx-2099 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did he share any tales about his time during the wars?

    • @muslehuddinbilal3548
      @muslehuddinbilal3548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@showtime112 sir Sarfaraz was his best friend and mentor. Sir Bhatti named his elder son after Sir Sarfaraz

    • @muslehuddinbilal3548
      @muslehuddinbilal3548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rtx-2099 oh yes he did

  • @DraftySatyr
    @DraftySatyr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Thanks for a highly professional and entertaining account of this action. I must confess that, in common with most people in the west, I have little if any knowledge or understanding of the Indo-Pakistan wars, so this is definitely a channel I will subscribe to.
    As an aside, it is also a very generous offer to pass on your sales commission from Thrustmaster.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you very much for your positive comment! If you are new to the channel, check the older videos as well.

  • @sailordude2094
    @sailordude2094 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Amazing war history, thanks! Christopher Lee was very saddened by the loss of so many of his favorite jets.

  • @georgemalesky9462
    @georgemalesky9462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much for your donation! It will be put to a good use :)

  • @alejandrocasalegno1657
    @alejandrocasalegno1657 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    In WWII a P-51 did have more chances against a Me-262 than a Vampire with F-86.......

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Well, maybe. But there was a serious numerical superiority on the Mustang's side which was often decisive.

  • @RealDarko
    @RealDarko 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This one is new for me! Thanks for making the video.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I appreciate the feedback! Thanks for being here!

  • @xray86delta
    @xray86delta 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for your videos. There are so many unknown, or forgotten battles of the jet age during the Cold War that were not over Vietnam.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the positive comment!

  • @patrickcosgrove2623
    @patrickcosgrove2623 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Didn't know about this conflict, interesting. Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @notafrog2040
    @notafrog2040 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This fantastic and war thunder’s YT community needs more history content like this
    KEEP IT UP

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate your support, more stuff coming up!

  • @jpaton4349
    @jpaton4349 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fascinating piece of aviation history I wasn’t aware of.... thank you

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the feedback!

  • @Red-rl1xx
    @Red-rl1xx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video! I like how you choose aircraft and battles in different conflicts!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much! I feel that viewers want some variety.

  • @billballbuster7186
    @billballbuster7186 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Only the initial Vampire Mk3 was classed as a fighter, all other models were Fighter-Bombers used for ground attack. Top speed was only 548mph compared to over 700mph for the Sabre. They should have had fighter escort, Hunters or Gnats, but the Indian Air Force was not very competent and 3 good pilots died..

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      True, fighter escort could have made all the difference. Indian Air Force was somewhat disorganized in this conflict, even their sources are not afraid to confess it.

    • @AbelMcTalisker
      @AbelMcTalisker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That would seem to be born out to some extent by the "friendly fire" incident during this mission as well as the misidentification of more Vampires as Canberra`s. This certainly wasn`t the Indian Air Force at it`s best.

    • @MrPoornakumar
      @MrPoornakumar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AbelMcTalisker
      True.

  • @BlackMaria61
    @BlackMaria61 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Vampires were used till the early 80's in Rhodesia, but didn't face fighter opposition . They were a good aircraft, but the Sabre was over a 100mph faster , it was madness to use them unescorted knowing the opposition they were up against

  • @christopherwebber3804
    @christopherwebber3804 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Incredibly beautiful backdrop provided by the Himalayas!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True, you can't go wrong with mountains in the background 😁

  • @udayanpaul8042
    @udayanpaul8042 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great video for having Sunday evening tea and enjoying as. Both sides had brilliant minds with great talent and training, but at last the tactics of the squadron as well as the individual air warriors played a decisive outcome in every air battle. Many thanks indeed for your kind input.
    'Touch the Sky with Glory '. 😊

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm happy to hear you found the video enjoyable! Thank you for the support!

  • @mediapartners9950
    @mediapartners9950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Another excellent video many thanks 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your support!

  • @uutwo
    @uutwo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This battle was a wake up call of sorts for the IAF.
    To the point that, 6 years later, the 1971 war would see the PAF humbled beyond belief, and IAF superiority over the then East Pakistan in a matter of days.
    Nice video, and I loved the graphics!!!

    • @usmanqureshi08
      @usmanqureshi08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1971 war was in Bangladesh
      PAF still dominates IAF like recent skirmishes where IAF was clueless

    • @uutwo
      @uutwo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@usmanqureshi08 😂😂😂😂😂
      Yeah right. Keep deluding yourself. I wonder how those Indian airstrikes were carried out
      And in retaliation, your F 16s couldn't even get a Mig?😂🤣🤣
      Frankly? The PAF is incompetent at this point

    • @eternalgamer674
      @eternalgamer674 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is completely false. Although pakistan suffered a defeat in 1971 the PAF more than outclassed the IAF even while being heavily outnumbered.
      According to Chuck Yeager who flew with the PAF rescue crews and documented the wreckages, the PAF scored a 3:1 ratio of victories to losses.

    • @uutwo
      @uutwo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eternalgamer674 it does not matter. The way I see it, the PAF failed in every way possible. So what that they "outclassed" the IAF? They could not provide air cover to the Pakistani Army in Bangladesh; neither could they effectively support the Pakistani Army on the Western Front with India. Otherwise India would have lost large swathes of land. Which again, CLEARLY did not happen.
      It does not matter that they had a victory ratio of 3:1 or something (I have no idea about that, but I choose to believe you). But the primary objective of an Air force is not to win over the other airforce: that is simply part of the larger aim, which is to support ground troops.
      Anyways, the point is this: had the PAF provided effective air support, Pakistan would not have suffered the brutal humiliation that was the 1971 conflict.
      Thus, in my opinion, the IAF outclasses the PAF, simply because they ensure that their country wins over their enemy; not that they shoot down more enemy planes.
      Not to mention, the PAF's F-16s were chased off by some Mig-21s after the Indian airstrikes. That is enough to tell me about the level of the PAF pilots😂😂

    • @choudhury9265
      @choudhury9265 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@eternalgamer674not getting into the nationalist mudslinging - but most of what I have read seems to suggest the PAF claims of superiority are mostly exaggerated - in a way its easier to claim victory in the aerial arena where victory is not always self evident - I wouldn't read much into a paf resource - salvage/rescue missions are carried out over you own territory - so the numbers would be likely skewed

  • @1stbn8thmar
    @1stbn8thmar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was pretty freaking cool. great work!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much!

  • @slimkhalifadogg
    @slimkhalifadogg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sqn Ldr Rafiqui and Flt Lt Bhatti would both be awarded Sitara-e-Jurat for this action.
    Interestingly, as per Kaiser Tufail, the Pakistan Army AA unit in the area did not claim any enemy aircraft in this engagement, so it is suspected that Pathak was shot down by friendly fire.
    Sqn Ldr Dahar would be awarded the Vir Chakra.
    Maybe Sqn Ldr Rafiqui's final engagement could be a good topic for a future video?

    • @dragonstormdipro1013
      @dragonstormdipro1013 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Highly likely. The start of 65 was a complete surprise for India so confusion was widespread.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The friendly fire story is quite possible. It's pretty uncertain what exactly the first flight attacked and destroyed as the narratives don't match. Indian ground forces could have fired and hit aircraft attacking their positions.
      As for Rafiqui's final combat, I agree it could be a good topic.

  • @fretlessed25
    @fretlessed25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thank you for another interesting video. For some reason I find conflicts that aren't between "super powers" with equipment that may not be the latest technology a lot more interesting. Still very brave pilots fighting for their country on both sides.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for the feedback! Yes, the lesser known conflicts (at least in the West) can be pretty fascinating.

  • @chuckcawthon3370
    @chuckcawthon3370 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent Presentation.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Many, many thanks

  • @JusticeSR71
    @JusticeSR71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    The South African Air Force operated Vampires...a very noisy aircraft which narrowly skimmed over the roof of our house just after take off...admittedly, I wasn't TOO sorry at their decommissioning 😊😂

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well, when you put it that way.... 😁

  • @journeymancellist9247
    @journeymancellist9247 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Vampire was obsolete quickly, but gosh doesn’t it look cool!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree, it certainly has a unique appearance.

  • @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811
    @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    In 1971, during the conflict that led to the loss of Bangladesh, the renowned legendary American fighter pilot Chuck Yeager who was there in Pak at that time acknowledged the exceptional performance of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). Despite the significant numerical advantage held by the Indian Air Force (IAF), Yeager stated that the PAF achieved an impressive kill ratio of 3:1 against its adversaries after himself counting the total downed wrackages. He expressed his admiration for the professionalism and skill exhibited by PAF pilots during this challenging time.
    The PAF's superiority was also evident in the 1965 war, where it outperformed the IAF despite facing overwhelming odds. More recently, in 2019, the PAF showcased its capabilities once again by shooting down two jets including SU30 and mig 21 , reinforcing its reputation as a formidable air force. The consistent excellence of the PAF across different conflicts highlights its enduring strength and professionalism.

    • @silverghost5752
      @silverghost5752 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😅Poor Pakistanis citing some obscure paid American source as evidence for their success.. Their Air Force was thrashed in the Eastern sector within the first few days of the 1971 war, and their pilots fled to Myanmar for safety. 😅😅
      Hope the F16 pilot's widow is getting her pension regularly. Abhinandan is still drinking fantastic Indian tea!!😅😅

    • @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811
      @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @Surya-r8j
      My detailed answer to your question.
      Key Points Challenging India's Claim of Shooting Down a Pakistani F-16 and strenghtining Pakistan's claim Shooting down of Su30 along with mig 21 in 2019.
      1. Lack of Physical Evidence: India claimed that Wing Commander Abhinandan ( abhi none done) Varthaman, flying a MiG-21, shot down a Pakistani F-16 during the aerial skirmish. However, no concrete evidence was ever provided to support this claim. No F-16 wreckage, nor any Pakistani pilot-dead or alive-was presented as proof. If the F-16 had fallen in Pakistani territory, as some argue, in today’s age of smartphones and social media, it’s highly likely that someone would have captured and leaked photos or videos of the wreckage. Yet, no such evidence has surfaced.
      2. U.S. Inventory Check: U.S. military officials reportedly conducted an inventory check of Pakistan’s F-16 fleet after the incident. The findings indicated that all F-16s were accounted for, adding credibility to Pakistan's denial of any F-16 loss.
      3. International Analysts’ Investigation: Independent international defense analysts examined the wreckage of the downed MiG-21 and found that none of its missiles had been fired. All missiles were intact at the crash site, debunking the claim that Abhinandan's MiG-21 shot down an F-16. These findings are publicly available and widely discussed in defense analysis circles and available on youtube.
      4. Christine Fair’s Statement: Dr. Christine Fair, a well-known American academic who has often criticized Pakistan, and became a millionare selling anti Pakistan books in India was invited to speak at an Indian military event after sometime of feb 2019. Surprisingly, she openly stated that India's claim of shooting down a Pakistani F-16 was not credible. This statement, made in the presence of Indian Air Force representatives, is easily accessible on TH-cam under “F16 shot down according to Christine Fair.”
      5. The AIM-9 Missile Mystery: India displayed wreckage of an AIM-9 Sidewinder missile, claiming it came from the downed F-16. But if that missile was found in Indian-occupied Kashmir. it raises a crucial question: Where is the wreckage of the F-16? If the missile ended up on Indian soil, the F-16 should have also fallen there too. No wreckage or pilot was ever shown, making it highly unlikely that an F-16 was shot down.
      6. Evidence Supporting the Downing of a Su-30: Given the lack of an F-16 wreck, it becomes plausible that the AIM-9 missile recovered on Indian soil actually struck an Indian Su-30, and did not come out of downed F-16. The missile was actually fired by a PAF F-16, downing the Su-30, whose wreckage reportedly fell inside Indian territory.
      7. PAF Pilots’ Public Appearance: Following the engagement, Pakistan’s Air Force pilots, Hassan Siddiqui and Noman Ali Khan, publicly claimed responsibility for shooting down Indian aircraft (MiG-21 and Su-30). They appeared before the media to recount their actions. In contrast, Wing Commander Abhinandan has never publicly claimed to have shot down an F-16, even after his return to India.
      8. Abhinandan’s Silence: Despite being hailed as a hero in India, after getting the so-called veer chakra award. Wing Commander Abhinandan has never publicly stated that he shot down an F-16, either during press conferences or in any subsequent interviews. Given the reported confessional videos made while he was in Pakistani custody, it’s unlikely that he will ever make such a claim in his lifetime, even after his retirement. This silence is telling.
      9. Mi-17 Friendly Fire Incident: After the Su-30 went down, India launched a search and rescue mission using a Mi-17 helicopter. However, in a tragic friendly fire incident showing unprofessionalism of IAF .the Indian Air Force mistakenly shot down their own helicopter with a surface-to-air missile, killing all personnel on board and helicopter's destruction. This error was later acknowledged by Indian military officials and widely reported in the media.
      10. Initial Confusion Over Pilots’ Capture: While initial reports suggested that Pakistan had captured two Indian pilots, this was later revised to just one. There were rumors about the involvement of an Israeli pilot during the conflict, but these claims were never substantiated and may have been kept quiet due to geopolitical sensitivities.

    • @slimkhalifadogg
      @slimkhalifadogg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In this engagement Pathak was awarded the Vir Chakra, despite attacking friendly troops and losing all his planes to enemy action, similarly Abhinandan was awarded the Vir Chakra for getting shot down before achieving anything.

    • @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811
      @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@slimkhalifadogg so its a norm there 😅. They literally keep their people alive in some kind of a delusional Bollywood fiction like where India is superpower 😅.

    • @slimkhalifadogg
      @slimkhalifadogg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Surya-r8j 😂😂😂

  • @agnyr
    @agnyr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I can't qualify why, but Vampire is really beautiful bird...

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The twin booms maybe?

    • @l1a146
      @l1a146 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have a vampire on Display near my Town.
      A very graceful looking aircraft indeed.
      Unfortunately beauty doesnt win wars and they were outdated and outclassed by the Sabres.

  • @chups1447
    @chups1447 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another great video!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Chups!

  • @terencewise7349
    @terencewise7349 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From Terence Wise in UK……..As a young child at school in London we were ordered into the playground every year on Empire Day to watch these Vampire jets flying over.I thought that they looked like bats,I was too young to know that they were bats out of Hell.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lots of people share their childhood memories of the Vampire. Irs appearance and sound must have been very impressive.

  • @jakeglanville6835
    @jakeglanville6835 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I witnessed a mock combat between Vampires and DH Hornets (a twin-engined piston engined fighter) in 1949, and the Hornets were getting the upper hand. So whoever sent them into action against F86 Sabres was, in my view, a criminal!

    • @robertlees7528
      @robertlees7528 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The child of the mossie

  • @briansmaller7443
    @briansmaller7443 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a kid the New Zealand airforce Vampires used to do low level passes over our arm house on gunnery and rocket attacks at a target range just off the coast from where we lived.

  • @usmankayani805
    @usmankayani805 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent video.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @ghostb9339
    @ghostb9339 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for such an informative video and such non popular conflict.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for appreciating it!

  • @JoeCool_1962
    @JoeCool_1962 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent vidéo man
    When starting the Vampire engine there was a huge black smoke :)

  • @Wolf-hh4rv
    @Wolf-hh4rv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rhodesian Air Force used the Vampire successfully as ground attack aircraft. The RAF also had the magnificent Hawker Hunter.

  • @daaniyalmasum6842
    @daaniyalmasum6842 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Thanks for this.

  • @JT-io9ii
    @JT-io9ii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Outstanding video Showtime! Thank you!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!

  • @Wannes_
    @Wannes_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    01:55 Speed wasn't really the issue, sending Vampires in without fighter escort was
    The A-4 Skyhawk wasn't all that much faster than a Vampire, yet served as a bomb truck into the 21st century

  • @louisavondart9178
    @louisavondart9178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New Zealand were still using Vampires as jet trainers until the early 70's. I loved seeing them flying low over my home town when I was a kid. At age 14 , I visited their home base at Ohakea and got to sit in the cockpit of one. I was enthralled... and also by the A4 Skyhawks nearby. I didn't think badly of the plywood fuselages. I didn't know any better....

    • @george-ev1dq
      @george-ev1dq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vampires were of all metal construction, no plywood used.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for sharing your memories!

    • @allanbradshaw3498
      @allanbradshaw3498 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Australia used Vampires in the 60s as a naval fighter/ bomber from HMAS Melbourne

  • @peebeedee6757
    @peebeedee6757 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Of course the DH Vampires were outclassed but incredible to realised that they first flew in 1943, just 3 years after their stablemate prop driven DH Mosquito. Three years! Such was the pace of aero design. This was not so long after the Me262. My father served on a RAF Vampire squadron 1953 to 1956 before being re equiped with Hunters. World of difference.

  • @st-ex8506
    @st-ex8506 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Vampire was in active duty as a trainer aircraft in the Swiss Air Force until... 1990, and the Venom was used as a ground attack aircraft until 1983!

  • @debmalyadatta-j7p
    @debmalyadatta-j7p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    thank you for covering India Pak conflicts .
    a much neglected theater(as much as flight sims go ! )
    but it remains interesting , because the military standoff continues to this day with advanced aircraft
    the wings over India mod for strike fighters 2 is one of the few available
    it lets you fly the wonderful folland gnat , apart from hunters , sabres , vampires , mysteres , mig 21 , mig 19
    terrain is very basic ,
    hope somebody does a good map someday

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching and appreciating the content. My hope is that WT introduces a full Indian tech tree. Gnat would be most welcome. And maybe a couple more maps.

    • @debmalyadatta-j7p
      @debmalyadatta-j7p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you for taking the time to reply
      these re enactments provide me with scenarios to model in mission editors , in il 2 1946 or the sf2 (modded ), sims (that is if and when i get the time ... ). do you use other players to fly the opponent planes in these videos
      ?

  • @Gonefishing6572
    @Gonefishing6572 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just found your channel and I am very impressed 👏 👌. Please keep it up and real .

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm glad you did! Hope you like older content as well!

  • @VC_27
    @VC_27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent recantation, as usual. I mourn the deaths of these brave souls. Sq. Ldr. Rafiqui of the PAF was a gallant pilot and he too passed away in combat in this war. Rest in peace.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the feedback! Yes, Rafiqui sadly didn't see the end of this war.

  • @andypandy9013
    @andypandy9013 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hardly surprising. The Vampire was very much a First Generation jet whereas the Sabre was a Second Generation jet. Not exactly an even match.

  • @davewhyte1977
    @davewhyte1977 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video. Could u tell me if that's a game that u used for the video. I want to get a thrustmaster and play it if possible. Thx

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! The game is War Thunder. You can install it and play for free on this link: playwt.link/showtime112
      Regarding flight controllers, WT can even be played without them. Many people just play with mouse and keyboard, especially in arcade mode. But if you'd like to buy a Thrustmaster controller, you can contact me on showtime1112b@gmail.com or any of my social network and we can see what discount you can get for any specific item.

  • @branka4226
    @branka4226 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice video!, thanks 👍

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Puno hvala!

  • @mabinogion7023
    @mabinogion7023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rnzaf had a lot of vampires post war. They are common in museums and you can look into the cockpit of one at the wigram museum in christchurch

  • @biggiouschinnus7489
    @biggiouschinnus7489 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just goes to show how much equipment can matter when the training is equal.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True. All the training can't help you much if your technology is way behind.

  • @guyfromfuture1918
    @guyfromfuture1918 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was watching a video on the hawker hunter and he said it shot down a F5E tiger 2 but i cant find any info on it can you maybe make a vid on it?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't say I remember hearing about it. Do you remember which conflict that was? Theoretically, it could have been Iran-Iraq War as some Hunters might have still been in Iraqi service (although probably just for training purposes)

    • @guyfromfuture1918
      @guyfromfuture1918 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@showtime112 yeah he said something about a Iraqi Hawker hunter and a Iranian F5

  • @taeketuinstra9817
    @taeketuinstra9817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Vampire was outdated in de 60s, but that didnt prevent the Swiss air force to continue to use them as trainers until...1989! That summer, I saw them practising take off and landings at Raron airfield , near VIsp in the Rhone valley. Great sight!

  • @RundSchneemann
    @RundSchneemann หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Vampire was the best jet of WW2 - it first flew in 1943, and some were produced before the end of the war. Absolutely criminal to expect it to compete with any 2nd generation jet like a Sabre over 20 years later.

  • @FoulOwl2112
    @FoulOwl2112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Come again.

  • @ronbishop1068
    @ronbishop1068 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I learnt to fly in the RAAF in the MK 35 Vampire a nice aeroplane but hopeless against the Sabre and even the Canberra

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for sharing your experience!

  • @pablopeter3564
    @pablopeter3564 หลายเดือนก่อน

    EXCELLENT video about aviation history. Thanks. You bring back this heroic facts of history. Those Vampires weren't a match for the F-86, I wonder what would have happened if instead of Vampires the Hawker Hunter were flown , I mean F-86s vs. Hunters in a dogfight.

  • @vivek27789
    @vivek27789 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It maybe a controversial opinion and some fellow indians will label me anti-national but after going through a thorough study of overall air campaigns of both Indian and Pakistan Air force I will have to acknowledge objectively that PAF got the better of IAF in 1965 Indo-Pak war in air to air combat.

  • @MrPoornakumar
    @MrPoornakumar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rare footage! its hard to get vampires on screen, in action. Thanks.

  • @GadreelAdvocat
    @GadreelAdvocat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A modern version of a Vampire with some modifications might make for a Harrier style aircraft. A Harrier-Vampire.

  • @BallisticCoefficient
    @BallisticCoefficient 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rhodesia used Vampires in combat as late as 1978 in the ground attack role.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been planning to explore the whole Rhodesian Air Force story. Someday for sure.

  • @chriscarbaugh3936
    @chriscarbaugh3936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a two seat Vampire available for rides in or around London. For ~£2200 for a ride I am considering it!

  • @pablopeter3564
    @pablopeter3564 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Vampires were used in the Mexican Air Force (FAM) during the early 1960s, from 1961 to 1967 to be precise. I had the experience to have flown with former Vampire pilots during my staying in Mexicana Air Lines, and I can tell you that they refered to it as a very limited fighter (range and fire power).

  • @paddlesmcbean2366
    @paddlesmcbean2366 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Outdated quickly. One of my favourite planes, probably because of childhood memories with my father in the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF).

  • @bjornsmith9431
    @bjornsmith9431 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great education video.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Glad you think so!

  • @AdilKhan-bo3lp
    @AdilKhan-bo3lp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent stuff
    Can you do some work on How Captain Lutz Israeli pilot and other were shot down in Arab Israel war by Pakistan airforce

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I'll probably explore some of that in the future.

  • @NigelHill-mn5nt
    @NigelHill-mn5nt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Indians probably thought that by sending in the vampires 1st would increase there likelyhood of survival by having the element of surprise, while the mysteres could use a higher speed to bug out after their attack

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is a possible explanation.

    • @hogginarmocount9562
      @hogginarmocount9562 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      😂😂😂
      I'm Indian.
      Our country was eating 2 meals a day as requested by our PM in 1965 to counter the ban on grain export to us by the US.
      WE WERE NOT A COUNTRY HAVING THE LUXURY OF CHOICES of spending our meagre resources on anything, least of all on expensive weapons like the pakistanis.
      We did what we had to with whatever we had...
      Hell we made the trainer GNAT famous by shooting down sabres with it!
      You should hear about the stories of sukhoi-7s bombing sorties of the IAF...it's a blast to hear about aircraft coming home with broken tails, wings, sidewinders stuck in the airframe and so on...😂😂😂

  • @jimmiller5600
    @jimmiller5600 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    During the after action reports of Germany's invasion of Poland the army said that the air support was only good for attacking Polish targets well behind the lines. Any attempts to have "close air support" resulted in as many German losses as Polish.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The whole concept was at its infancy. I think CAS only matured in Vietnam (but I might be wrong)

  • @muhammads.a.m4727
    @muhammads.a.m4727 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Make a video on Pak-indo war 3 December 1971.... On Dhaka's sky...

  • @GaryPrice-nv1jc
    @GaryPrice-nv1jc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Early 90s they came across an old vampire jet aircraft in a long abandoned hanger at Southampton Airport

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the classic car world, they call it a 'barn find'. 😁

  • @johnhammond9962
    @johnhammond9962 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is it about September 1st? The start of war season?

  • @paulpoulsen8304
    @paulpoulsen8304 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, what flightsim are your using?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! This one was done in War Thunder. I also use DCS World (and sometimes IL-2 Great Battles)

  • @Duke-225
    @Duke-225 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Could you do an episode on the aerial engagements in the Bay of Pigs invasion?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Probably. I've been planning to cover that story as well but I can't say when exactly.

  • @johnwilliamson2276
    @johnwilliamson2276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first time watching a video of yours. I’m very impressed with your graphics and commentary. I’m subscribing. 😊

  • @alexandretownley2079
    @alexandretownley2079 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can you please do a video of the Indo-Pakistani war involving the Mystere and the Ouragan fighters

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'll probably cover some of that too.

  • @MilitarySummaryChannel2024
    @MilitarySummaryChannel2024 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    *Battle of Asal Uttar is taught in military schools worldwide because of how the terrain was used against tanks. The Indian side was outnumbered but they breached a local canal during night and flooded the sugar fields where the battle was taking place. Then lured the Pakistani tanks into pushing the Indian side but they got slowed by the flooding and got encircled.*

    • @naherf385
      @naherf385 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't you know that Battle of Chowinda is also taught in military schools in which Pakistan slaughtered Indian cavalry onslaught?

    • @nayanbmengr
      @nayanbmengr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@naherf385hahaha, Pakistanis in this thread are out in force pushing some mindless drivel. Chawinda was inconclusive at best, and even then, India captured a lot of territory from your guys that day. Keep drumming your nationalism.

    • @naherf385
      @naherf385 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nayanbmengr yes, the Battle of Chowinda was inconclusive in your history....😂😂

  • @PappaBear_yt
    @PappaBear_yt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another great video, wish it was a bit longer though. 😉
    👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🙋🏼‍♂️🍻🍻

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'll have to start making director's cut versions 😁

    • @PappaBear_yt
      @PappaBear_yt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@showtime112 😂👍🏻

  • @joeshmoe9978
    @joeshmoe9978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video 🎬🏅

  • @huzaifaniaz7329
    @huzaifaniaz7329 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for covering this battle
    Perhpas you can make some more videos on PAF Ace MM Alam's air battles who had some claims (4 IAF jets shot down in 6 seconds) which are not true we know that, but still he managed to shot down more IAF Jets than anyone else during 1965 war.
    regards from Pakistan

  • @jdsaldivar5606
    @jdsaldivar5606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    82ND
    First video of the day...
    Good morning!!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good morning to you as well!

  • @robertmiller1299
    @robertmiller1299 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This war (as all wars between India and Pakistan) was a tragedy, had it not been for the event of August 1947 it would never have happened. Think on!

    • @faizaziz289
      @faizaziz289 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not really India Pakistan war happened because of the unfinished agenda of partition by giving Kashmir on a platter to India by British like Palestine given to Israeli settlers from Europe. Until injustice is rooted conflicts would remain to happen.

  • @aaronfitton9076
    @aaronfitton9076 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is an airforce base about 50km from where I live and 2-3 times a year a vampire does a fly over the city sometimes with a spitfire that lives at the base as well

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I envy you :)

  • @PrimarchMatterion
    @PrimarchMatterion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So did World War II ever end? 26 days of no open hostilities? I disagree. I think WW2 is still going on in one form or another. I missed your content. I had an issue with YT and now I am back.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good to hear it! Thank you for commenting!

  • @lllordllloyd
    @lllordllloyd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I will, indeed, "keep watching Showtime 112".

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm glad to hear it, thank you!

  • @eduardodeandres3864
    @eduardodeandres3864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excelente trabajo. Me ha encantado. Es verdad que los vampire estaban ya desfasados!
    Gracias!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much for your positive comment!

  • @SabastianMoran
    @SabastianMoran 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    October 24. 2024 - This is an interesting video dedicated to an event and war, mostly ignored by Western military video channels. It would seem that higher command echelons were somewhat at fault in the way they assigned their forces. Loss of life is always lamentable.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I appreciate your feedback! It is certainly true that the Indo-Pak wars don't get much attention in the West.

    • @SabastianMoran
      @SabastianMoran หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@showtime112 Mr. 112 😊Thank you for acknowledging my comments. I am a student of Geopolitics, military subjects and sociology, (among other interests😏😊), and as I said. Your videos bring to light events on the sub-continent that many Westerners are not familiar with. I hope to view more of your videos as time permits. Further, I am always looking for people from around the world to communicate with. In order to be less reliant on "legacy media" which has become very partisan in their reporting. Should you start a forum at some point. I would be glad to create an account and engage with other members there. In the meantime, stay well, and as us old Star Trek fans say.. "Live long and prosper."🖖😊

  • @dragonstormdipro1013
    @dragonstormdipro1013 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Probably the darkest day in IAF history

    • @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811
      @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In 1971, during the conflict that led to the loss of Bangladesh, the renowned legendary American fighter pilot Chuck Yeager who was there in Pak at that time acknowledged the exceptional performance of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). Despite the significant numerical advantage held by the Indian Air Force (IAF), Yeager stated that the PAF achieved an impressive kill ratio of 4:1 against its adversaries after himself counting the total downed wrackages. He expressed his admiration for the professionalism and skill exhibited by PAF pilots during this challenging time.
      The PAF's superiority was also evident in the 1965 war, where it outperformed the IAF despite facing overwhelming odds. More recently, in 2019, the PAF showcased its capabilities once again by shooting down two jets including SU30 and mig 21 , reinforcing its reputation as a formidable air force. The consistent excellence of the PAF across different conflicts highlights its enduring strength and professionalism.

    • @dragonstormdipro1013
      @dragonstormdipro1013 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811 Yeager's claims are overblown.

    • @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811
      @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dragonstormdipro1013 come on mate , Have some dignity at least. He is a legend and wouldn't have made any bullshit false claim like IAF always do.

    • @dragonstormdipro1013
      @dragonstormdipro1013 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811 His claims are bogus just like his WW2 kill claims.

    • @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811
      @syedsheharyaarhaidersheraz2811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dragonstormdipro1013 give proofs and then talk otherwise I know truth is bitter

  • @larryswanson5953
    @larryswanson5953 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would bet it was more fun to make this video than it was to watch, and it was great. How about India versus the Chinese?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I enjoy producing videos, you are right about that. As for the Indo-Chinese conflict, I don't think aviation was actually used there.

  • @Jakuup12
    @Jakuup12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please could you do a video about RAF 1940 squadron structure? Would be amazing! Thank you

  • @mikes4564
    @mikes4564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you use DCS for your battle depictions?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For some videos. This one was done in War Thunder.