Rossi 92 Lever Action - Ban State Budget Carbine ??
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- An update/review of my Rossi R92 in .357 - not perfect, but one of my favorites!
I also share some thoughts on the application of a levergun in .357 Magnum as a general purpose defensive tool, especially for folks living in restricted states.
My R92 has held up well over about 1000 rounds of mostly .357. It is fun to shoot, and not too expensive! Thanks for stopping by. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I love my Rossi Model 92 in 357 magnum. It’s got the 16” barrel. I actually just did a video on why it’s what I call my 3 purpose carbine. It’s killed deer for me, I plink with it all the time, and I use it for home defense with 125 grain semi jacketed hollow point 357 ammo. This was a great video by the way. Thanks for showing some love for the Rossi lever guns!
Thanks Bubba, I'm a little more of plinker/Target shooter and my .357 Rossi is set up with a tang mounted peep sight. I've got to enthusiastically agree with everything you said about these guns in terms of practical functionality. Very realistic assessment of their potential for defense. Well thought out and articulated!
I agree with your approach! I put a Marble tang sight on my Rossi. It's very functional and I love the "Old West" look.
Try a small dab of blue loc-tite on the action screws. Blue is Non-permanent and those screws will stay put until you take them back out. RED loc-tite is permanent so dont use it. I usually place a drop on a plastic playing card then gently dip one side of the screw into the loctite bead. It controls over application and keeps it cleaner than dropping it directly on the screw.
My 16" Rossi really ups the performance of my reloads. I chronographed my loads in my Ruger GP100 and the Rossi. I get 1400 f/s in the handgun and 1850 f/s in the rifle. That is a big step up in performance. I bet I could nip at 2000 f/s with the 20 or 24" Rossi.
Clear fingernail polish works best for those that aren’t familiar with how loctite interacts with gun screws.
Also, what is your load data? I am very interested.
@@BlackKnight-ll8qh I am using 158gr XTP bullets with Federal brass and Fed 200 magnum small pistol primers. I am loading 17gr of H110 powder. I cant remember overall length (OAL) but it was most likely saami book length as any levergun can be sensitive to shorter than normal OAL and pressure would be higher if loaded shorter.
Im rural homesteader Upstate New York and this is my go to carbine. Was bent on using it for rifle deer season, but came to my senses and used the scoped 308 that I usually get my deer with. I did smoke a couple of porcupines with the 357 though.
I've been a gun owner and shooter for a while now and even carry a gun for work. Having studied the topic for many years I have come to the same conclusion you have in regards to long arms. The AR15 simply is the best tool for defending your home, but when that isn't an option a lever action rifle or pump action shotgun is still an excellent and underrated tool for the job. You're unlikely to have to deal with even 2 or 3 intruders and they're almost always going to retreat as soon as they realize you're armed with a gun. And that's if they're crazy enough to even try breaking in when you're likely to be at home and don't leave as soon as they realize you're awake. A good lever action is more than capable of handling even outlier situations a person might find themselves in.
This is one of the most well-thought-out and presented reviews I've seen of the R92. Nice job.
I had been passing up deals on the Rossi 92 for years...anyway I finally found one at the local gun shop, it's the 38/357 Rossi r92 , 16" Tripple Black, threaded muzzle... etc. I also filed it up with a red dot .....it cycles smooth out of the box ....the price was about the same as a chiappa, Henry, Marlin...... Shelf price here is 1299.00+tax ...Canada.
Full up the 357 cases with Lil Gun. 16-18gr for a 158gr bullet. 2,000fps at 18gr!
@@oldrabidus2230 hello, that would be a hot 🔥 load ... Buffalo bore uses 15.8 for the 357 mag ...... Hard cast. At 1500 fps out of a 4" barrel. Thank-you for the reply .
@@kevincallahan1607 I’m ringing steel at 350 yards. Gun does heat up fast.
Love your comments about semi auto usage in ur state and that the lever gun offers you some peace of mind. Good videos
Slow is accurate and accurate is fast
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I love my rossi 92 mine is in 45 colt with a 20" barrel. I live in a state where I can and do own several scary black rifles. Even tho I own them my rossi 92 is my favorite go to rifle. Good video
Nice work on the modifications of the R92 ! We have several Rossi products and really like them .
I own two Henry's, the Model 001 .22, for about four years, then I got the Henry Big Boy 357mag/38 special in brass, with the octagon barrel this summer. Both great rifles ... though the ultimate defense/offensive may not be a lever gun, for just straight up home defense, they are very good choice. I have the Big Boy within 3-5 seconds of reach, with ten rounds of 357 mag, and it only requires simple levering to be ready to go. And conversely, it's all but impossible to get rounds from the loading tube, to the chamber without the levering action, so it's very safe to store as a loaded weapon. No fussing with safeties, or clips. And as you mention, pistol rounds out of long barrel rifles have more muzzle velocity.
Precise, articulate analysis.
Very well thought out and logical reasoning for having one, well done! I agree with everything you said.
I have a 16" Rossi in .357. Gotta say, of my 40 guns, it is in my top 3 favorite to use. I reload my ammo, and even with the short 16" barrel, I get 1875fps with H110 powder and 158gr soft point bullets. I changed the rear buckhorn sight (I cant hit the broad-side of a Zeppelin with these sights) to a skinner small aperature peep sight. The front sight worked with my high-speed reloads so I didn't change it. The loading gate is smooth and I have ONLY HAD ONE missfeed on over 1100 rounds. (A too short .38 special that slipped through my Q.C. checks)
I use this as a camp gun for bears. It is kept in a central place for all to use. Everyone gets a tutorial when they come, and most are marksmen with it after 6-8 shots) My gas-checked hard-cast bullets are nasty bear medicine at close range.
Great video. I just got one of these myself. Can't wait to set it up Like yours. Looks awesome like that
Yeah, for 99% of situations I wouldn't feel outgunned with my Rossi. With .357 jhps out of a 16 inch barrel, I'm pretty confident in my ability to neutralize any attacker.
for a flashlight mount i use a Mossberg mount.(might be for a shotgun), it mounts the light on the side and clamps on with a butterfly nut. from the side it lights up the front sight bead nicely. it does stick out a bit from the barrel but for the 10 bucks i payed I'll take it. it is for battery flashlights so doubt it can me used with other types. I've had mine for a year now and love it. thanks for the vid and good work.
I bought the skinner sight rail as well and it's like it was made on the gun. Very good choice
Great review.
Great review man
I recently picked up a R92 Puma in .357 and it works well. It compliments my .357 revolver. 20” barrel and ten in the tube. Looking for a nice sling/carabiner.
As Canada is introducing a bill to ban all semi autos and some bolt and single shots, I'm seriously considering this set up. Very cool.
i have the same rossi but in 44 magnum, its a great rifle for the price, grettings from argentina and Merry Christmas
Good video Bubba, I have just purchased a Rossi 92 and it worked well on the first range trip, I also do not intend on disassembly to make things smoother, just going to let it work in with use.
I got one during the pandemic, and set it up the same way + a leather sling. I love it! Fell in love with lever guns! I'm going to replace the red dot with the primary arms micro prism dot because I have an astigmatism as well.
Awesome. Was looking at the PA Prism as well. If you think of it, drop me a line once you get it on, I'd love to get your feedback, especially if it sits lower on the mount then the Micro Red Dot.
@@bubbafudd You might think I'm crazy.. but I ended up putting a HOLOSUN - HS510C on my Rossi. The circle dot is super clear with my astigmatism. It kinda looks like a brick on a stick, but it's legit the bomb! I didn't go with the PA because of the advertise eye relief.
@@bubbafudd Just be forewarned that prism optics have an eye box and eye relief issues. Most shooters find that a red dot is much better for CQB work.
These are great lil rifles. I have the triple black .357 92 and have owned the original. Loads of fun to shoot. If you're thinking about getting one do it now. Price is going up FAST. From $550 in Jan 2021 to about $800 now.
Thanks for the video. I ordered a copy of that book.
Great gun and vid. Hey what’s that cool rain smock you’re wearing?
Well done 👏
Cool shooter 👍😎
What ever US state you are in I'm sure your gun laws are still better than the gun laws down here in Australia.
Can you get lever action rifles for hunting there? I've heard conflicting things about that but something about being able to get pump action .357 magnum rifles which logically would cycle faster than lever action rifles. It's all very strange to me, and illogical- but then again if they ban semi automatic guns, there's nothing to stop them from banning whatever they want to next.
@@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n Luckily we can still have lever action (cowboy guns) for hunting and recreational shooting.
@@shalininaicker in modern cartridges or do they limit you to old school black powder loads? Because 30-30 should definitely be enough for feral pigs. I also really don't understand how your laws more or less preclude self defense, do you think there's any chance of that changing soon?
@@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n We can have all the lever action modern calibers. I guess if the laws change it will be for the worst unfortunately. This country is run by antigun morons.
@@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n.357 pump guns are not common here in Oz but we can have Remington 7600 in .308 and Remington 7615 in 223/.556 if you can find one but they will cost you an arm and a leg and in most states you’ll are restricted to 10 shot mags.
Got the 24" R92SS, 38/357 octagonal barrel little over 4 months ago and it's amazing accurate and eye candy gorgeous and no issues whatsoever. Been to the range several times already with different ammo. Even loads shorter flat nose 38 special, 125 gr, 1.4 inch or less with no loading problems or eject issues. The quality and functionality is up there, probably extremely close to Henry or Winchester that are manufactured these days.
I bought the stainless 20" last week. I unfortunately have not put many live rounds through it. Have been cycling quite a few 38sp snap caps through it. And it certainly is getting smoother. I actually think some 38sp rounds would be perfect for home defense. Would have less chance of over penetration, and can get those shots off fast.
125gr 357 magnum sjhp's would probably have less overpenetration risk. The 125gr from a 357 cruises at about 2000fps and will blow itself up pretty fast when hitting barriers.
I love it! Mine is a year and a half old now. Amazing rifle. Mine is just like yours but I got the 20 barrel. I can live with the buckhorn for now but I really dislike the front blade because I think it should have been made to have an optional hood. Whenever I lean it against a wall, it always wants to rest on the front sight blade.
I know exactly what you mean re: the front sight blade
Got mine today. It's SS and 16". I love it. Always wanted a 1892 but not the JapaChester. I also have the all weather side gate Henry in 4570 and 44 mag.
Ironivally, I went to Sportsman Warehouse today to get some of the 357 lever revolution and they had no 357 or 38 special. Surprise, they had tons of 44 rem mag.
I plan to do nothing but add a saddle ring and a big loop to this R92. Concerned somewhat about the levers stating "Gunsmith install".
This also gives me an excuse to get a Ruger GP100 in SS 3" barrel. I had stopped using 38 caliber years ago for 40, 45, 9mm. Thanks for the great vid. //ji
Excellent setup. The only things I'd add is an rear peep, light, and you need the allen wrench incorperated in the butt cuff so you can remove the red dot in the field if needed.
I'm saving for one now....great video i have a AR but want to make this rossi my bush deer rifle...light, decent range, powerful enough for short range....
Late to the party but very good presentation. Take a look at the Marble's Bullseye rear sight. I have one on mine. Since you have the Skinner rail, take a look at the XS Weaver low mount peep. It would make a backup to your red dot.
I love shooting mine. I need to get more time behind the trigger with some different types of ammo so I can get more familiar with how it shoots. I want to hunt with it but I don’t have a optic on it and mine is the older model with the square sights so it is harder for me to make nice groups past 50 yards
I like the Marbles Bullseye sight and have it on two rifles now. It's faster than a scope and good to 50 yards. No batteries required.
I really like those grips on your revolver
I own 3 r92s
One 20” blued in 357 (deer carbine)
One ranch hand 13” blued in 357(fun and back pack)
One 20” stainless 454 Casull ( anything inside 100yards with cast bullets)
Mine is a 20 inch 45 Colt. It's a hammer on deer and it shoots great at 100 yards with a Marbles Bullseye sight.
Do the screws still loosen up if you use some purple 222 loctite on them?
Thank you for this review! I own a Rossi and am a bit reluctant to drill holes in it to fix a rail... I'm curious why no one seems to have produced a dovetail-to-rail adaptor yet? Do you think it would be too fragile/sensitive for a red dot sight? Thanks
This is the exact rifle I've been after lately. I've wanted a lever gun since I was a kid, and one of these would be perfect for my niece to use on whitetail. I keep a nice '53 Browning A5 16 gauge loaded with #1 buck in case of emergency, so adding a .357 carbine wouldn't hurt in that department.
I'm looking at setting up my Rossi .357 the same way. If your looking for a great rail for a light solution look into Ranger Point Precision's Rossi 92 mlok rail. 👍
Blue lock tight... Just a drop on the threads, you don't even need to remove the screws. Just back them off untill you can get a drop on the receiving threads.
Just put a tiny dab of thread locker on the screws. Protects and prevents.
I was looking for the "20 barrel carbine, but can't find one near by. But I did find the R92 357 mag "24 model with octagon barrel. And it looks brand new. I had to settle for more, but for $620 I couldn't pass it up. Will the longer barrel length improve ballistics?
I changed my follower out with a stainless one. And I hate the add-on safety so I traded it out for a button. Mine is a recent purchase and is blued, 20" and chambered in 45 Colt. The R92 is very robust and can easily handle "Ruger Blackhawk" level plus P loads, easily making the 45 Colt more than a match of the 44 Magnum. Actually, with the heaviest bullets, it's more. But really, a 250 grain Keith bullet is plenty for anything you would need to use it on short of brown bear of something like that - which we don't have here in Texas. I actually got mine for cowboy action shooting so mine will mostly be eating mild loads.
I have the same in 16” stainless. A few things from a developing gunsmith, first, use poly pads and lap the chamber and bore. Learn how from Nathan Foster from Terminal Ballistics Research. Second, use clear fingernail polish, just a dab on the end of the threads as the perfect loctite to keep screws from loosening.
Also, look up Steve’s Gunz for tear down and upgrades specifically to this rifle. Older models have better stock inletting, but poorer internals. New models have better mechanicals, but worse inletting.
Try 125gr XTP’s over 7.9gr of W231 for very accurate loads. I can cover 3 shots with a quarter. That’s damn good for a lever gun that is considered 2-4 MOA.
I recently got a 92in the 44 mag. With a 20 inch Barrel didn’t go with red dot but Steve’s guns have lots of upgrades for lever guns check them out
What revolver is that? Im definitely investing into a homestead/traditional setup since my home state is also strict and I simply cannot find myself investing into these frankenstein “safe” rifles.
Lever actions in my eyes share a place with bolt actions. They are by no means a worser option when half the rifle options available are barely usable
Thing is, nothing wrong with a lever action carbine, problem is if many people in kalifornia go down this path, they'll just ban these as well.
I would put a low magnification scout scope on it
Thanks for the video. Also, thanks for your candor and being a “regular guy” and not a “subject matter expert”! LOL. I hate the word “expert”. Just what is an “expert”? I’m no firearms “expert”, but I have been a lever gun shooter, exclusively for my long arms, for 40+ years. As a result, a straight stock lever gun is like an extension of my arms and eyes. I shoot a lever gun instinctively. I am well aware of its limitations if I were to be opposed to one armed with a high capacity centerfire rifle like an AR, AK, or SKS. However, my first shot off hand, I can hit my target in a hurry and most dependably with a lever gun. It’s because it’s like a part of me. So, unless, like you stated, I’m not up against a squad of paratroopers that invaded my property, my always in-reach long arm is my 1939 vintage Winchester 1894 30-30. It’s backup is a Rossi 44mag. My eyes are getting old and I’m on to trifocals, so I’ve been entertaining the idea of putting a red dot on my Rossi. Your comments regarding such makes me look for the lowest possible solution. Regards!
Magnetic flashlight mounts work real well on my 44
For the light mounting option check out the mlok rail systems available for the 92 they are great
I like the way rossi's look but my Rio Grand .30-30 was the only lever gun I had ever seen jam.
What recoil pad is that?
I was going to buy one of these, until I saw that safety on top of the bolt, and no saddle ring, I put it back, if you can't make it like the Org. then don't make it at all.
You could add a lamp or a laser with side 45 angle picatinny mount.
These are really great pieces of kit. I love mine. I run Hornady American Gunner 125 grain XTP’s. They come out of my 16 inch barrel at a little over 2100 fps. That’s moving! The XTP’s may come apart at that velocity but who cares. They dump all that energy into whatever your shooting at. I never had to use it in that capacity but I’m sure it would be very effective. Great video sir.
Look at the Citadel lever guns, they are the same gun, but with a threaded barrel, MLock hand guard and synthetic stock. I think Rossi is the manufacturer of it.
As far as speed of shots, while there is no way it will match a semiautomatic, watch some of the more serious cowboy action shooter’s, and I think you will be surprised how fast follow up shots can be made with a lever gun with practice.
As far as capacity goes, you have enough rounds to handle most home/personal defense situations in a civilian setting.
They shoot cast bullets great...any bullet I cast and shoot in mine is VERY accurate.
Diz aí marca dessa pro-ponti quais são as distâncias de caça?
Me diz as distâncias dos disparos bem como agrupamentos nos alvos 🎯 em 40 à 100 metros?
A lot (I didn't say all) of .38 Special ammo is barely OK for self-defense shot out of revolvers. The 16" barrel can add enough FPS to make them more effective. Of course .38 Special fired through a .357/.38 lever gun should be thoroughly tested for feeding issues.
Gen 2: Rossi 92 / Citadel Levtac M-LOK Aluminum Handguard **
I didn't know you could mount an optics rail. I may have to nab one on gunbroker in 454 casull for a small fortune. Seems citadel isn't making the levtac 92 454 after all. I need a red dot mounted for these aging eyes, so a rossi may be the ticket.
I am trying to get taures to make a 357 judge rifle on there 8 shot 357 handgun.
I think it would make a good ban state gun.
It should be a bit faster to shoot. But reload with a speed loader would make for a faster reload.
That would be sweet , and MIGHT even be allowed here in Canada ???
@@johnspruit7296 well that was my pitch to them that it would be ok in most ban states. And if they put prices of rail under the barrel and on top.
A dubble action for the first 8 shots should be as fast as any simauto.
And it would make a good night hog rifle to.
@@johnspruit7296i have talked to them there still no plans on it right now.
I wonder if ruger would do it
How did you install a picattiny rail on you rifle?
Skinner sights website. 39 bucks.
If I had to choose between my R92 and my AR, I'd choose my levergun hands down. I handload 357 and 38sp and prefer wheelguns for ccw, so there's that. But it's also just way more fun to shoot. The AR is easy mode and boring, so I never shoot it. And I think the best gun to have in a fight is probably going to be the one you've practiced with the most. That's a wheelgun, lever action, and shotgun for me. But it's completely BS that you can't own an AR and I hope that changes soon.
Check out Brass Stacker if you want a nice sling. Not tactical but pretty.
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A holosun 507 would be perfect on this carbine.
Theres a peep sight that replaces the safety. I forget what website its on
I have one but I need a sling solution
Yeah i live in oregon they passed 114 no mags over ten shots and now we have to get a permit to buy a gun stupid bans need to go away have what gun you want or need for your reason not the governments
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Hornady Leverevelution has a FTX bullet not the XTP
The XTP is a straight hollowpoint without the tip
You are totally right. Don't know how screwed that up
@@bubbafudd I'm totally with you on using the 158 JSPs in a rifle.
The XTPs open up too fast and end up with shallow penetration especially when you load them hot.
I think the FTX loadings are a little too mild. Getting around 1700ish FPS with a 140gr bullet.
The Federal American Eagle 158gr JSPs are a good choice from the gel tests I've seen.
I reload Hornady FP XTPs which have a smaller HP and protected tip and were designed for hunting with higher velocities. Theyll handle impacts up past 1800 fps without blowing up.
Keep up the good work!
You say it pales in comparison with an ar or ak… you know what pales in comparison to either of those guns? A well trained/calculated individual with a Rossi r92 that shoots it all the time and knows it inside out. You put that gun in the hands of Jerry Miculek the other guy is probably going to have a pretty bad day no matter what he has .
I'm pretty sure if U wave that around is some intruders face they gonna run the other way
FTX, not xtp. Great video otherwise
Bruh learn to clean the guts of the gun well
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