I personally have experience of accidents like the cut finger and my conclusion always is that I was getting tired and making silly mistakes. Good Luck you two.
Not having enough gear oil in the gearbox is definitely going to be causing a a grinding noise. That noise will then travel down the prop shaft and sound like it’s something else. So the lack of gear oil is a painfully expensive reminder to make sure that you check ALL the engine fluid levels as part of your routine engine checks. 😢 really sorry Lauren has hurt her finger ouch. Hope it heals quickly.
Yes you’re 100% right, it’s admittedly an engine check that we’ve neglected for some time and perhaps paid the price now…☹️ But in a way, we’re hoping it was just that and not something else waiting to happen again down the line… Time will tell. Ah thank you, yes, the finger has been saved! A bit dramatic with the fainting, but luckily not at sea at the time🙏🏼
@@SailingIndiana glad that it’s only the gear oil and glad the finger is better. When I was a kid my dad bought me a kids microscope. He took me out to the village pond to get some pond water to look at with my new plastic microscope. On the way home I fell over and cut myself on the glass test tube of pond water which smashed in my hand. Arriving home I tearfully held out my poorly hand for mum to dress. But dad said no not yet and had me drop blood onto a slide. I still remember what red and white blood corpuscles look like under a microscope! Hope you’re much better now Lauren.
I notice at 13:37 seconds that your fire blanket is not in a good position. If you ever have a galley fire, you possibly would not be able to get it out of the wall fixing. On my yacht, I have two fire blankets, one in the forepeak and the second at the companionways steps from the cockpit, both some distance from the galley which is amidships. In a panic situation, it might burst into flames when you are away from the galley and to then being able to get back and successfully get hold of the fire blanket is very important. I did two fire fighting courses in the Royal Navy at HMS Phoenix Fire-fighting Training establishment and have done refresher courses in the Civil Service.
Thanks so much for the comment, it’s definitely good hearing this from someone with experience/qualification in the field. We’ll have a think about an alternative location! It’s also good for others who might read this comment 👍🏼
@@SailingIndiana It wasn't a dig at you specifically, it was just a observation. I have seen far, FAR worse, where the fire blanket has been mounted directly BEHIND the cooker. There would be no chance of using it in a galley fire as the crew would be beaten back by the heat and the flames, not to mention any spilt fat from the pan that is on fire. Imagine that on a rolling yacht in heavy seas and not being able to get at the fire blanket, it doesn't bear thinking about. Fires in the galley seem to start when no one is watching, they just might have stepped away for just a moment or two and when they return, they can't get near the fire. :(
@@SailingIndiana It is best to have the fire blanket at the bottom of the companionway so that anyone arriving down from the cockpit can grab it straight away on their way to tackling any fire. Possibly near the VHF/SSB radio near the chart table. Also, if the duty cook is badly burnt (clothes on fire), the helmsman can grab it when attempting a rescue as he/she arrives below deck. Companionway steps to the galley can be no more that half a second or so, away from the fire if that, and anyone running FROM a galley fire would automatically make for the cockpit to either get out, get help or get fresh air. If the galley is on fire, the last thing you need to do is stand there, trying to get the frigging fire blanket out of its canister or valise. If in a moment of doubt GET OUT. You might always be able to think and return to the fire a few of moments later WITH the fire blanket, once you have gathered your thoughts.
What a cliff-hanger - main story of the engine problem waylaid by injury - and no settlement of the squealing sound! Best of luck for a speedy recovery to the cut finger and also to solve the engine/driveline mysterious sound.
my unsolicited two cents... sounds to me that the more than likely culprit is a loose belt or failing freshwater pump bearing. Your transmission (reverse gear) can use your general engine oil (as most cruisers don't keep straight 20 weight on board). It, will sound slightly different in reverse or forward... nature of the beast. Before adding oil to the reverse gear, if you have a vacuum oil changer, vacuum out all of the old oil and "dirt" from the bottom of the case (you might see some metal "dust" which could indicate a failing cone clutch but, I doubt it, they are extremely robust). Then add oil to the line (probably take all of a 1/3 liter). Now a question, did you notice any additional vibration when the sound started? In that case could be the damper plate (anti-vibration plate between the engine and reverse gear), but, once again, I doubt it. Did the engine temp rise/overheat? It looks, from your video, you have reasonable raw water flow...have you noticed any change? Not crazy about that smoke but once again could be related to a loose belt, failing freshwater pump. Try and start with the least dramatic, Occam's razor and all that. Cut yourselves a bit of slack and thanks for taking us along for the ride.
I agree - sounds like a loose alternator/water pump belt - or perhaps the alternator bearings are starting to go out. Just doesn't sound like a gearbox problem (but we are trying to figure it out without being "present" in the engine room).
Hey! That’s so much for this comment, this is really helpful and has given us some options for further investigation! It’s something that has kind of ‘fixed itself’ or at least hasn’t happened again since… which is worrying as obviously could happen again in that case. Will clean out the oil and put fresh in and see if there are any ‘bits’ in it. No additional vibration noticed when starting, temperature didn’t rise/overheat so not sure there. The smoke is a new thing since crossing Biscay and we’re now burning off oil ever time we motor😬 So thinking a compression test will let us know if it’s an issue with top or bottom of the engine?🤞🏼
@@SailingIndiana Be very careful with whomever you permit to do a compression test on a small diesel... more often than not they are hammers... seeing only nails... Is it the belt or the alternator? Simply see if it is freespinning then check the output on the alternator posts when running. If the alternator is seized that could easily cause a substantial drag on the engine even to the point of burning oil...how is your oil pressure (at start..cold and then running... warm)? Do you have any idea as to when last the mixing elbow was replaced? And lastly...an additional two questions. Is it possible you have too much oil in the engine? Fill to the volume indicated on the spec sheet which may or may not always correspond to the dipstick. and... Have you noticed any water on the front (belt end) of the engine? There is a weep hole on the bottom of the freshwater pump that if 'weeping' is a sure idication of a failed seal/bearing... One more and then I shall leave you to it...Does the smoking stop or change (volume, color, scent) with increased rpm's or idle/neutral vs in gear? Have fun with the diagnosis...
@@trcrissinger4721 Hmmm this is a good point, haven’t checked if the alternator is free spinning, will take a look this weekend! Would imagine it’s alternator not belt, but will check. Oil pressure is fine, or at least isn’t indicating overheating… The smoke gets worse the higher the revs but is same colour; white/blue as in the video (we’re at maybe 2000rpm in the video when it’s smoking). We replaced the elbow maybe 18months ago, but will check for any signs of wear. Didn’t know there was a weep hole, so that’s something else we can check this weekend🤔 Our stern seal is leaking a lot so there’s always water in the bilge now, so hard to spot if it’s leaking front end. Good point re the compression test, there is a recommended mechanic in the marina here, so just keeping fingers crossed he’s good… That’s if we can get a slot with him, as he’s a busy man it seems!
Another great video guys but we are rooting for you to have some better luck, seesh that engine - its just the gift that keeps giving 😕 the main thing is you are both safe and we can't wait for the next installment xx ❤
Ah thank you so much🙏🏼🥹 You’re not wrong, this engine is one issue after another… Really tempted to buy a new one this winter, but not sure it’s in the budget. Might be some more engine rebuild content coming😂😭❤️
Just when we thought that the Biscay Adventure couldn't get worse... It sort of sounds as though the engineering issue might be fixable? As long as you have a lucky plank for a stethoscope... Meanwhile massive flesh wound and index finger bloodbath leaves us all well-prepared for Halloween Glam nails not damaged, but here's hoping that the meal was actually finished and the gearbox connects/works, and that all's well for your next stage. Best wishes
Thanks so much for watching🙌🏼 We should have put a ‘graphic content’ warning at the start!!haha But you’ll be pleased to hear the finger was saved😂 As for the gearbox, who knows!! Chris had to finish the dinner, so no comment about that😅
Poor Lauren!
I personally have experience of accidents like the cut finger and my conclusion always is that I was getting tired and making silly mistakes. Good Luck you two.
Not having enough gear oil in the gearbox is definitely going to be causing a a grinding noise. That noise will then travel down the prop shaft and sound like it’s something else. So the lack of gear oil is a painfully expensive reminder to make sure that you check ALL the engine fluid levels as part of your routine engine checks. 😢 really sorry Lauren has hurt her finger ouch. Hope it heals quickly.
Yes you’re 100% right, it’s admittedly an engine check that we’ve neglected for some time and perhaps paid the price now…☹️ But in a way, we’re hoping it was just that and not something else waiting to happen again down the line… Time will tell.
Ah thank you, yes, the finger has been saved! A bit dramatic with the fainting, but luckily not at sea at the time🙏🏼
@@SailingIndiana glad that it’s only the gear oil and glad the finger is better. When I was a kid my dad bought me a kids microscope. He took me out to the village pond to get some pond water to look at with my new plastic microscope. On the way home I fell over and cut myself on the glass test tube of pond water which smashed in my hand. Arriving home I tearfully held out my poorly hand for mum to dress. But dad said no not yet and had me drop blood onto a slide. I still remember what red and white blood corpuscles look like under a microscope! Hope you’re much better now Lauren.
Respect for managing the boat challenges calmly. Sorry about the finger. Warmer weather will bring more smiles.
Thanks so much!! It’s been a challenge, but we definitely help pull each other through it. Finger survived, thankfully😂
I notice at 13:37 seconds that your fire blanket is not in a good position. If you ever have a galley fire, you possibly would not be able to get it out of the wall fixing. On my yacht, I have two fire blankets, one in the forepeak and the second at the companionways steps from the cockpit, both some distance from the galley which is amidships. In a panic situation, it might burst into flames when you are away from the galley and to then being able to get back and successfully get hold of the fire blanket is very important. I did two fire fighting courses in the Royal Navy at HMS Phoenix Fire-fighting Training establishment and have done refresher courses in the Civil Service.
Thanks so much for the comment, it’s definitely good hearing this from someone with experience/qualification in the field. We’ll have a think about an alternative location!
It’s also good for others who might read this comment 👍🏼
@@SailingIndiana It wasn't a dig at you specifically, it was just a observation. I have seen far, FAR worse, where the fire blanket has been mounted directly BEHIND the cooker. There would be no chance of using it in a galley fire as the crew would be beaten back by the heat and the flames, not to mention any spilt fat from the pan that is on fire. Imagine that on a rolling yacht in heavy seas and not being able to get at the fire blanket, it doesn't bear thinking about. Fires in the galley seem to start when no one is watching, they just might have stepped away for just a moment or two and when they return, they can't get near the fire. :(
@@SailingIndiana It is best to have the fire blanket at the bottom of the companionway so that anyone arriving down from the cockpit can grab it straight away on their way to tackling any fire.
Possibly near the VHF/SSB radio near the chart table. Also, if the duty cook is badly burnt (clothes on fire), the helmsman can grab it when attempting a rescue as he/she arrives below deck.
Companionway steps to the galley can be no more that half a second or so, away from the fire if that, and anyone running FROM a galley fire would automatically make for the cockpit to either get out, get help or get fresh air.
If the galley is on fire, the last thing you need to do is stand there, trying to get the frigging fire blanket out of its canister or valise. If in a moment of doubt GET OUT.
You might always be able to think and return to the fire a few of moments later WITH the fire blanket, once you have gathered your thoughts.
What a cliff-hanger - main story of the engine problem waylaid by injury - and no settlement of the squealing sound! Best of luck for a speedy recovery to the cut finger and also to solve the engine/driveline mysterious sound.
Yes an impromptu ’TBC’ unfortunately! Daring stuff this dinner making😅
All will be revealed next time.
my unsolicited two cents... sounds to me that the more than likely culprit is a loose belt or failing freshwater pump bearing. Your transmission (reverse gear) can use your general engine oil (as most cruisers don't keep straight 20 weight on board). It, will sound slightly different in reverse or forward... nature of the beast. Before adding oil to the reverse gear, if you have a vacuum oil changer, vacuum out all of the old oil and "dirt" from the bottom of the case (you might see some metal "dust" which could indicate a failing cone clutch but, I doubt it, they are extremely robust). Then add oil to the line (probably take all of a 1/3 liter). Now a question, did you notice any additional vibration when the sound started? In that case could be the damper plate (anti-vibration plate between the engine and reverse gear), but, once again, I doubt it. Did the engine temp rise/overheat? It looks, from your video, you have reasonable raw water flow...have you noticed any change? Not crazy about that smoke but once again could be related to a loose belt, failing freshwater pump.
Try and start with the least dramatic, Occam's razor and all that. Cut yourselves a bit of slack and thanks for taking us along for the ride.
I agree - sounds like a loose alternator/water pump belt - or perhaps the alternator bearings are starting to go out. Just doesn't sound like a gearbox problem (but we are trying to figure it out without being "present" in the engine room).
Hey! That’s so much for this comment, this is really helpful and has given us some options for further investigation! It’s something that has kind of ‘fixed itself’ or at least hasn’t happened again since… which is worrying as obviously could happen again in that case. Will clean out the oil and put fresh in and see if there are any ‘bits’ in it.
No additional vibration noticed when starting, temperature didn’t rise/overheat so not sure there. The smoke is a new thing since crossing Biscay and we’re now burning off oil ever time we motor😬 So thinking a compression test will let us know if it’s an issue with top or bottom of the engine?🤞🏼
Alternator could be an issue as we think it might have stopped charging recently🤔 Only noticed it last weekend…
@@SailingIndiana Be very careful with whomever you permit to do a compression test on a small diesel...
more often than not they are hammers... seeing only nails...
Is it the belt or the alternator? Simply see if it is freespinning then check the output on the alternator posts when running. If the alternator is seized that could easily cause a substantial drag on the engine even to the point of burning oil...how is your oil pressure (at start..cold and then running... warm)?
Do you have any idea as to when last the mixing elbow was replaced?
And lastly...an additional two questions. Is it possible you have too much oil in the engine? Fill to the volume indicated on the spec sheet which may or may not always correspond to the dipstick.
and...
Have you noticed any water on the front (belt end) of the engine? There is a weep hole on the bottom of the freshwater pump that if 'weeping' is a sure idication of a failed seal/bearing...
One more and then I shall leave you to it...Does the smoking stop or change (volume, color, scent) with increased rpm's or idle/neutral vs in gear?
Have fun with the diagnosis...
@@trcrissinger4721 Hmmm this is a good point, haven’t checked if the alternator is free spinning, will take a look this weekend! Would imagine it’s alternator not belt, but will check. Oil pressure is fine, or at least isn’t indicating overheating… The smoke gets worse the higher the revs but is same colour; white/blue as in the video (we’re at maybe 2000rpm in the video when it’s smoking). We replaced the elbow maybe 18months ago, but will check for any signs of wear.
Didn’t know there was a weep hole, so that’s something else we can check this weekend🤔
Our stern seal is leaking a lot so there’s always water in the bilge now, so hard to spot if it’s leaking front end.
Good point re the compression test, there is a recommended mechanic in the marina here, so just keeping fingers crossed he’s good… That’s if we can get a slot with him, as he’s a busy man it seems!
Another great video guys but we are rooting for you to have some better luck, seesh that engine - its just the gift that keeps giving 😕 the main thing is you are both safe and we can't wait for the next installment xx ❤
Ah thank you so much🙏🏼🥹 You’re not wrong, this engine is one issue after another… Really tempted to buy a new one this winter, but not sure it’s in the budget. Might be some more engine rebuild content coming😂😭❤️
Burning oil is a big problem for future. Sounded like youre alternator fried. But that oil burn could be deep engine issues.
Just when we thought that the Biscay Adventure couldn't get worse...
It sort of sounds as though the engineering issue might be fixable? As long as you have a lucky plank for a stethoscope...
Meanwhile massive flesh wound and index finger bloodbath leaves us all well-prepared for Halloween
Glam nails not damaged, but here's hoping that the meal was actually finished and the gearbox connects/works, and that all's well for your next stage. Best wishes
Thanks so much for watching🙌🏼 We should have put a ‘graphic content’ warning at the start!!haha But you’ll be pleased to hear the finger was saved😂 As for the gearbox, who knows!!
Chris had to finish the dinner, so no comment about that😅
With a cut like that and painful, try holding your hand above your heart, take it across your body, and upwards towards your opposite shoulder.
Oh that’s a great tip!! Makes a lot of sense. Hopefully it doesn’t happen again🥲
Sorry about your injury. Will you still be able to compete in the World Floorboard Wrestling Championships in Dec?
Haha, thank you!! It’s touch and go, hoping to be match fit in time for the championships 🙌🏼😂
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