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I am so happy you are starting to look at The Old Republic Cinematics. In my opinion, as a Star Wars fan of 39 years, the Old Republic Cineamatics, is as close as prequels and even original Star Wars that we can get to. They are all short movies. The game itself has the best story, a game can have (Mass Effect serise is close...)... And at the end of it all, the game is just great. I was one of it's first player, when it was in beta stage, and that gave me the title, in game, as a "Founder"... :) Now I am 50 years, and still loving it, and playing it. And of course still loving the Original movies (the best), and then the prequels (on a second place)... You made an old "Star Wars" heart happy, when you started to review "STAR WARS: The Old Republic", cinematics... (By the way, I am a very old World Of Warcraft Player also, so I love your comments on the cinematics and ingame movies of that game. That is my second game, I play all the the time. I've been playing World of Warcraft since 2004!) .... Love you, and your comments and reviews. You are the best "Filmmaker" to this date, to give an honest and true opinion of these "Movies", I have watched others, but none can compare with your insight... Keep it up... :)
You do remember that they gave the title 'Founder' to anyone that played it the first year it was out. I was disappointed with that because like you, I was in the Beta. Had 3 or 4 wipes before the game came out. I knew Ord Mantel very well by that point lol.
There was a scene where they invaded the Jedi temple, that could have been a great inspiration to do something similar in the sequel trilogies. Too bad Lucas' Star Wars never got a sequel trilogy.
The Old Republic begins in 3681 BBY, or three thousand, six hundred and eighty-one years before Episode IV, and the Sith Empire here is an offshoot from the defeated remnants of Naga Sadow's forces. Like a lot of older lore, The Old Republic's canonicity is questionable, though there have been some references to it in the Disney canon, albeit in the form of supplemental materials. The soldiers in white are indeed Republic Troopers. We see the characters who are archetypes for the four core classes for the Republic here - the Smuggler, the Trooper, the Jedi Knight and the Jedi Consular, as well as the Sith Juggernaut and Sith Sorcerer. I'm glad you caught the fighting styles - Malgus, the Sith Apprentice is a "Juggernaut" who specialise in brute power and overwhelming force which is how he overpowers the Jedi Master so I'm glad that came across in the video. Satele Shan, the Jedi padawan is the descendant of Bastila Shan and Darth Revan from Knights of the Old Republic. The first three cinematics feature the same characters at three different phases of the war. The game proper begins shortly after the third one, during a brief ceasefire as both sides try to recover and consolidate.
Exactly, although Malgus here is the Sith Warrior. Sometimes Juggernaut, and, in the end, I'm sure, a carnage marauder, simply ignoring the Jedi Guardian's armor and melting him in seconds.
One thing I noticed (after so many views) is the difference in the "passing a lightsaber to your partner" between the Jedi and Sith: Sateel throws/sacrifices her saber to help her Master. Malgus has to steal the saber from Vindican who tries to hold on. A contrast of "generosity" vs "selfishness". I've been enjoying your WoW reviews, and can't wait to see your review of the rest of the Old Republic cinematics!
@@luketimewalker I worked on the testing for the Agent and Smuggler classes :) every ability for both classes, along with their quest lines, were tested by me before going live. Thank you for playing it, and saying that :) It actually means alot to be honest. We all worked really hard on it :)
@@michaelriddick7116 amazing ! The Agent story and its multiple possible endings is considered by many to be the best class story. And since last year - or was it 2 years ago? - you can finally play an "agent" with a blaster, with the new rules. Personally, I've created three "Mandos" (Din Djarin) just before that rule change, both wearing the exact same cosmetic armor, and one of them was an Operative. Batman the foes and then shiv shiv shiv ^^. The other a Powertech and a Vanguard. I haven't played in over a year but I might come back to it sometime! I dare say I have created some of the very best strongholds in the game, and I should go back to record them one day. Took me years upon years to build... They have dumbed down the rules a bit over the years, not sure how it is now, but the complexity of the skill trees was amazing in the beginning (I remember when you had to reload flechette round as a Scoundrel!) As players we often felt over the years that Bioware was running the game with a skeleton crew, but I've often felt the level of care & detail that went into the inception of this masterpiece was really something, so I'm actually honored to get to tell one of the OG developers! "OH SO YOU'RE A SPY TOO?!" *points finger* One of my favorite lines in the whole game (when you first get into the Hutt's palace on Hutta and meet a fellow operative ^^') Cheers from France ! I originally played on Mantle of the Forcen then had chars on all 17 servers (at the time, in 2012. I know there were a lot more at launch!)
@@michaelriddick7116 You know what, I'm friends & guildie with a famous Star Wars TH-camr who's very much into Swtor, in fact he's finishing his last class story these days (Consular). His YT nick is Kyle Katarn. I'm CERTAIN he'd love to hear about you and possibly even interview you, either on Twitch and/or TH-cam. Oh and hey: merry Christmas Michael!
Smuggler is me and my friends Favorite class. Such an epic quest line and the dialogue is so unique and so fitting. One of my favorites is when your hitting on that lady on Alderan and your wookie companion says something like, 'uh... I'm going to climb a tree' and exits the scene. I laughed so hard. The expansions lacked a lot of that and I think the game suffered for it. You and your team are legends. p.s. Sorry for Fanboying, but damn, you guys did great work. p.p.s Love the Beaker Muppet profile pic.
The truth is: the 3o min of old republic cinematics are 100x better than everything combined that Disney brought out ever. I would love too see a full movie like those cinematics.
The Old Republic cinematics not only set the tone and story for the first chapter of the game, they also introduced the classes. When you know, you can see it ;) I have been a Star Wars fan all my life and i have played the game a lot. And yeah, we will see Malgus again
@@dragonlord498 Its specifically noted that technology was knocked back to Mandalorian Wars era, which is about 300 years prior to this, during the Republic Dark Age which ended about 1000 BBY with the Ruusan Reformation. Given the lack of an organized military, its no surprise the GAR took inspiration from these older designs when outfitting the Clone Troopers.
I love your insight on this cinematic. If you watch the “Hope” and “Deceived” cinematics be sure to watch the versions with the original dialogue, not the altered dialogue.
This game has THE BEST cinematic story telling of any game. It's a full on Star Wars movie and a damn good one. You need to find all of them. This one is chronologically the first, but was like the third to release. Return, Deceived, and Hope are SO good.
Since you mentioned "lightsaber fights done with stricter adherence to realistic swordplay", I have to recommend the video "To The DEATH" by Corridor. If you haven't seen it, it's a very strong example of it. Really amazing take on subtlety in lightsaber-style fights.
THANKS I was about to do the same. Sadly we can't put a link, but anyone can find the video with the title. It's an ASTONISHING VIDEO. Lightsaber duel, not SW.
I played this game for many years and I love how this cinematic showcases each of the classes. Gunslinger with his dual pistols, Commando with his giant cannon of a blaster, Jedi Knight strong and firm, Jedi Consular with her dual blade lightsaber... Just awesome! Not only is it a great cutscene but after you watch it and start playing a game you really feel like you're in that world side by side with those same characters. It's not just a nice video to watch to get hyped for the game it really is a part of the game
9:08 talking on “it’s something they know will happen” you are extremely correct as it’s fully part of the Sith tradition and code. As a Sith Master your duty is to take on a Sith apprentice and train/raise them to be stronger than you, so that when they finally challenge you for your position, their heightened strength, power and skill will overwhelm your own, defeating you. Yes, you are to literally raise your own assassin, but in doing so, as he takes your place, so does the strength and power of the Sith Empire rise alongside it, as you know through your death, that you have completely your duty in raising someone stronger to take your place, knowing that they too shall also one day follow in your footsteps in brining the Sith to greater heights of glory - it’s also why so many great Sith warriors and masters are honoured and remembered after their deaths, as they are honoured for doing their duty and carrying on the Sith legacy.
1000 years of Tenebrae Viciate's rule as emperor realy fostered that sentiment. In Naga Shadows Era, and before in the pre war era all the way to the dark jedi joining the sithari. Making your own "assassin" was not realy how it vent, it was more of a traditional making yourself strong wich then led to the empires prosperity thro your leadership and strength. The kill your mentor, is viciate and after, due to viciate being the indesputable ruler for 100 years, and making the dark concil his administrators defacto (when he dident directly pippet them. Wich later goes to revan and malak, wich then later gets picked up by bane's rule of 2, due to the sith being incapable of making an empire like of old, due to no one, being able to be it's undesputed ruler for long enogh, and being powerfull enogh in the force to truly rule a population of political sith elite
Where to start.... This man is my new favorite. He speaks the truth when it comes to the sword comparison as well as the rest of the choreography. I seen many youtubers who are HEMA practitioners and just about all of them view starwars in a hyper realistic view, which is not always bad, its good to learn how its actually done in real life... but thats where it fails too. They are hyper focus on realism and not in the fantasy setting. This man, Philip, just stated facts that just about all hema youtubers dismissed, yet they acknowledge that there maybe some force influence, (even though it has to do with everything with the force) yet still dismiss it as unrealistic and impractical. And again, I respect them for their opinions and expert analysis. But this is star wars and you can obviously tell they are not super fans. I mean they are fans enough to know what star wars is and even quote some names, but thats about it. Also, they constently gloss over key details about how a jedi or even sith us the force and how it influences their everyday life. Literally in the star wars film, a new hope (or to us OG, Star Wars) Obi wan, sex appeal, Kenobi said to Luke to let go of his control, (not in those exact words) and to embrace his feelings. He even blind fold the kid with a blast shield helmet that blocks his view so that he can focus on the force itself. and then we literally see Luke deflecting stun bolts and there. Right there. No Hema guy is able to do that immedietly. Maybe by accident or by chance, but not on purpose. Im sorry for the rant, its just, it gets tiring to hear the same, oh it wont work, or, thats not real enough. Again, and hopfully I get my point across, I respect them for that. I understand them, but they dont bother to understand Star Wars, but Philips, this guy whom I found cuz this year I decided to dedicate time to learn and improve my film making skills, exposed himself to be an understanding guy. He knows why the jedi are super human and how every move makes sense, cuz they aint us. They are literal super human who can hold planets together from it blowing up. I heard that feat from another star wars channel. Oh, im subbing this channel hard and I cant wait to see more of Philips videos and learn more about filmmaking from him. Just by listening to his thoughts, tips and advice will be a huge help to me.
4:44 Yup, a very high level jedi. He's Kao Cen Darach and he had the rank of Battlemaster i.e. he was the jedi responsible for the lightsaber training in the entire Jedi Order. Kinda like a headmaster among the lightsaber combat instructors
A really cool thing they did with this was introduce you to each of the 4 republic classes you can play in the game, the Smuggler, the Trooper, the Jedi Knight & the Jedi Consular, so in addition to kicking off the story and introducing 2 of the focal characters in Satele Shan and Darth Malgus you also give each of the 4 classes a chance to show a little bit of what they do. You also get to see the Sith Warrior/Inquisitor & the Smuggler's personal ships.
Fun fact: Darth Malgus' class is different than his Sith master, his class gains power, more force as the combat is ongoing, game mechanic is you literally use combat skills to charge your force meter,than you can use it to unleash various devastating attacks. So it makes sense first the Jedi could hold both of them off, like deflecting the lighting to Malgus, etc, but by the end he was too powerful to defeat. The little things can only be seen if checked frame by frame, like the Sith Master's force shield flashing, visible for a tiny time when the trooper shot a grenade/missile at him and it exploded (so that's why he wasn't affected), etc. etc. By the way the Old Republic is several thousands of years before the movies, giving freedom for the developers to tell their story, which is absolutely amazing for both Republic and Imperial side, for each class (the game Star Wars: The Old Republic (SWTOR) takes place around 3640 BBY (Before the Battle of Yavin), which is about 3650 years before the events of the original Star Wars movie (A New Hope) Loved the reaction, thumbs up!
Watching the video of the making of that lightsaber battle and the skill of the actors making the moves was incredible. This is probably my favorite of the SWTOR cinematics and all of them were really well done. There was great care and passion employed in creating them, you can tell..
That armored Zabrak with the green lightsaber was a Jedi Battlemaster which was the only rank of Jedi that was allowed to study form 7 of lightsaber combat
especially you must not forget, their lightsabers, the weight distribution and the overall weight are completely different, and they are extremely hot sabers so you can go for other attacks than with for example a just two edged sword
First time seeing your channel. Genuinely curious both: Where do you think the sabre duel in it's entirety with Kao Cen Darach, Satlile Shan, Darth Vindican, and Malgus, where in a list would you rank it compared to all other Star Wars duels? For me, this one is probalby my second favourite in all Star Wars. I'd also be curious to know what you think of the duel between Obi Wan Kenobi and Maul on Tattoine from Star Wars Rebels? That one is my favourite of all Star Wars. For this fight, I love that they show the Jedi actually winning a fight (and not because they're main legacy characters who need to survive and are the strongest always). I wish Kao Cen Darach had done a little better than Malgus. But at least we got to see a Jedi win a fight, and with aggressive well executed form. Jedi that aren't main characters are often used just to look cool before dying. But Kao Cen Darach was the Jedi Battlemaster at the time of the cinematic.
I wish that Star Wars could go back to something like this, I cannot put my finger on what exactly it is, but this feels way more "Star Wars" than any of the newer movies and shows.
3:24 Answering your question about the timeline... This is the Old Republic era, in other words, 4700 years BBY(before the battle of Yavin 4 in "A New Hope"). During this time period, there is no Sith Rule of 2... meaning there were as many Sith as there were Jedi. One thing that hasn't change in almost 5000 years is the Mandalorians and the Hutts, they play a huge roll in this time period as well.
This cinematic takes place 3,681 years before A New Hope. Satele Shan (the female Jedi) is 18 years old, and Darth Malgus (the Sith that kills his master) is 19 years old. This is the start of the Great Galactic War between the Galactic Republic and the Sith Empire. The war lasts 28 years.
One complaint I have is that animators always have them holding the lightsabers wrong. For example, at 16:00 you can see he’s holding his green saber near the bottom. His hand should be higher, specifically right beneath the blade. That’s where you would hold a sword in order to have the most control and leverage possible.
I remember a certain novel explaining there are different grips for different types of power/agility ratio. Lower grips would be for more power and higher would be for more maneuverability and agile strikes. This is apparent when you see Anakin fight (he holds his saber near the bottom.)
based on the lore as far as i know the problem with thrusts is that the weight distribution of the blade changes because it isnt solid, the reason force users can use these weapons that well is that they can forsee the changes but like that a thrust would be a problem if the wieght suddenly pulls strongly to a point at the peak of the weapon
Phillip, I just now found your channel from this video. I absolutely liked the prequels, and I still do. We got the best lightsaber duels in the prequels, and we got to see how the Jedi Order actually functioned. I was already a Star Wars fan before I saw the prequels, from watching the originals as a kid; I'm 46 so I'm one of those Gen X fans who liked the prequels. So, I get what you said in this video. I did play The Old Republic for over a year and half from spring 2021 to autumn 2022, but it was so such as big story, and I wanted to play other games, so I quit playing. But the cinematics still hold up as the modeling and animation is amazing for 2010! I don't know how Bioware made such good cinematic trailers, but these should be expanded from the game and made into movies! Not many fans know this, but the era of 3,600 Before The Battle Of Yavin(as it used to date events that happened before it, and after it still hold true) I also did martial arts, and had katana training as my intention was to do katana kata competitions at tournaments. It was so fun learning those moves! I can appreciate your analysis of the lightsaber dueling between Darth Maglus and Satele's Master, and between the Sith Master and Satele! I think was well done too. Very cool video!
This was done by Blur studio, which is owned by Tim Miller, the director of the first Deadpool movie. This was done years before Deadpool, so I would not be surprised if he also directed this cinematic.
All Knights of the Old Republic media takes place between 3964-3951 BBY. The video games Knights of the Old Republic and Knights of the old Republic II take place in 3956 and 3951 respectively. This timeline is intended to list narrative-based Legends media by an in-universe chronology.
When you eventually check out the the other cinematics, namely "Hope" and "Deceived", please do the videos with the original audio. For some reason they released some other versions later with new voice lines etc., which are really bad compared to the original ones.
This is thousands of years BBY, before the Rule of Two, so the Sith wars more numerous in this era. One of the main recurring stories in this MMO is that every time the Sith get the upper hand their own infighting does them in. It's basically a long explanation of why the Rule of Two was needed.
That's Darth Malgus (not to be confused with Malak) and Satele is Revan/Bastila's great-granddaughter. The guys who look like clones armor wise are Republic Troopers. Also I have fencing experience as well, and honestly, when I watch SW for entertainment, I just go "anything inaccurate/showboat-y is gonna be because they have the force (aka. superpowers)." Another thing that I feel should be used more in SW is the fact that they can retract and re-deploy the blades almost instantaneously. They do it for a moment here, but I think this is the only video where it's utilized in combat.
I don't know if I'm going to have time to make it through this whole video or not to tell whether or not you noticed but, did you notice when the Sith ship landed in the hangar Bay it landed catty-cornered so that way the Jedi did not have a straight inline shot into the Docking Bay of the Sith ship? I thought that was a pretty cool touch
There was also this opening scene where the Sith invaded a Jedi Temple that was so memorable for me. That could have been a great inspiration to do something similar in the sequel trilogies. Too bad Lucas' Star Wars never got a sequel trilogy...
This cinematic is better than anything Disney's put out the past 10 years. This actually feels like Star Wars this actually looks and sounds like Star Wars everything about this is what Star Wars is supposed to be if someone were to take this and turn it into an open world/galaxy Star Wars game it could be probably the greatest game ever
keep in mind that these events take place 1000 years before the prequels. So no Clone Troopers, no Droidekas, and there are a LOT more than 2 Sith. If you haven't done so yet, I recommend reacting to the cinematics from the Starcraft series of games. Some serious lore and cinematography there.
I wish Disney would get there act together to expand on this content. There is so much to be explored and Disney can make alot of money and fans get everything they want.
You hit it on the head that this game was made from a place of love for Star Wars, its origins, its lore, and its fan base. The game was a major let down, BUT, the storyline’s and the work the team has done in the decade since its release still reflect that sentiment. I would have paid this team to write the sequel trilogy than the trash we got.
A movie like this will never be made! These clips are so much more intriguing then anything made by Disney! They could have made at least 3 different series from this period in lore history. But instead we get the Acolyte
The EU lore behind it, is that clone trooper armor is based off of Mandalorian armor and the armor of the troopers of the old republic. Men and Women who while not force sensitive could go toe to toe with the average sith in hand to hand and close combat.
I saw a great theory where the old republic and prequil movie lightsaber fights are way action-packed than the OG and Disney is that the jedi and sith were at their peak of skill and force sensitivity. When bane created the rule of two, it off set the Force, not allowing the jedi, who kept expanding, to use the full sense of the Force. When Order 66 came around and the Empire, the Empire erradicated all signs, hints, history, and symbols of the Old Republic. That is why in the OG trilogy, Luke had to create his own form based off of Ben's teachings. Then, intoduce Disney. The lightsabers are now choppy, you don't know if the lightsaber is a pointy stick or a slice-em-in-half weapon. The coreography is alright but it doesn't follow any set or pattern. That is because the force sensitives are heraring legends of this once great republic( plus the help of Luke's teachings) that is basicly, redefining the jedi ways. They are starting from scratch. I feel like it is more of a justification for the Sequels being good, but Disney just needs to stop caring as much as they are, have fun wit the lore, stop complicting the scripts to fit in with modern day politics and beliefs, and for god's sake, read the damn lore and use star wars weapons as they are described. Lightsabers burn at over 1000 degrees. If you are stabbed, you are dead, not only from the stab wound but also your internal organs buring to a crisp. Pardon the rant. Have a wonderful day, and leave a like of we need an old republic trilogy from either the Bane, Malgus, or Revan time.
Please make sure you use the official videos. There are some videos like the so called SWTOR movie that use unofficial dialogue and sound, and in those circumstances frankly it sounds awful and the dialogue doesn't fit. It doesn't happen frequently but when it does it really is subpar to the official SWTOR cinematic videos. The Sith was Darth Malgus and this is set about 3000 years before the movies.
I'm sure other people have answered you on the timeline. But I'd just like to point out that Darth Bane existed a thousand years before the prequels. If we line up the dates there was a single human lifetime between Bane's death and Yoda's birth.
give even more respect to the master cuz green lightsabers usually meant you were more with the force and blue was that u were a lightsaber user primarily
I've thought for a long time now that they need to do all star wars projects with these graphics. Screw the clone wars and rebels cartoon style and screw live action. You can do so much more with this.
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favourite character? Revan or Bastila, or both lol
Kreia by a million miles. Such an interesting character.
@@tiawen1945 Such a good choice. She lays out slowly what not many people know, the Grey Jedi. Qui-Gon Jinn is considered by many as a Grey Jedi.
Darth Nihilus
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“It feels like going home.”
That hits harder than you realize.
I am so happy you are starting to look at The Old Republic Cinematics. In my opinion, as a Star Wars fan of 39 years, the Old Republic Cineamatics, is as close as prequels and even original Star Wars that we can get to. They are all short movies. The game itself has the best story, a game can have (Mass Effect serise is close...)... And at the end of it all, the game is just great. I was one of it's first player, when it was in beta stage, and that gave me the title, in game, as a "Founder"... :) Now I am 50 years, and still loving it, and playing it. And of course still loving the Original movies (the best), and then the prequels (on a second place)... You made an old "Star Wars" heart happy, when you started to review "STAR WARS: The Old Republic", cinematics... (By the way, I am a very old World Of Warcraft Player also, so I love your comments on the cinematics and ingame movies of that game. That is my second game, I play all the the time. I've been playing World of Warcraft since 2004!) .... Love you, and your comments and reviews. You are the best "Filmmaker" to this date, to give an honest and true opinion of these "Movies", I have watched others, but none can compare with your insight... Keep it up... :)
You do remember that they gave the title 'Founder' to anyone that played it the first year it was out. I was disappointed with that because like you, I was in the Beta. Had 3 or 4 wipes before the game came out. I knew Ord Mantel very well by that point lol.
49 yrs here, same boat
There was a scene where they invaded the Jedi temple, that could have been a great inspiration to do something similar in the sequel trilogies. Too bad Lucas' Star Wars never got a sequel trilogy.
The Old Republic begins in 3681 BBY, or three thousand, six hundred and eighty-one years before Episode IV, and the Sith Empire here is an offshoot from the defeated remnants of Naga Sadow's forces. Like a lot of older lore, The Old Republic's canonicity is questionable, though there have been some references to it in the Disney canon, albeit in the form of supplemental materials.
The soldiers in white are indeed Republic Troopers. We see the characters who are archetypes for the four core classes for the Republic here - the Smuggler, the Trooper, the Jedi Knight and the Jedi Consular, as well as the Sith Juggernaut and Sith Sorcerer. I'm glad you caught the fighting styles - Malgus, the Sith Apprentice is a "Juggernaut" who specialise in brute power and overwhelming force which is how he overpowers the Jedi Master so I'm glad that came across in the video.
Satele Shan, the Jedi padawan is the descendant of Bastila Shan and Darth Revan from Knights of the Old Republic.
The first three cinematics feature the same characters at three different phases of the war. The game proper begins shortly after the third one, during a brief ceasefire as both sides try to recover and consolidate.
That was a great read, thanks
Exactly, although Malgus here is the Sith Warrior. Sometimes Juggernaut, and, in the end, I'm sure, a carnage marauder, simply ignoring the Jedi Guardian's armor and melting him in seconds.
@@luketimewalker ah, thanks, it's been a while since I've played.
One thing I noticed (after so many views) is the difference in the "passing a lightsaber to your partner" between the Jedi and Sith:
Sateel throws/sacrifices her saber to help her Master.
Malgus has to steal the saber from Vindican who tries to hold on.
A contrast of "generosity" vs "selfishness".
I've been enjoying your WoW reviews, and can't wait to see your review of the rest of the Old Republic cinematics!
yoooooooooooooooooooo
amazing insight
@rattleshirt with respect i disagree slightly, the jedi willingly sacrifice, the sith require you to prove your strength
YESSSSSS! I’m so excited to see you look at these!!!!! SWTOR cinematics NEVER miss!!!
I loved this one!!! It was amazing
game = good. but the devs dont deserve support.
Worked on this game and I remember when they showed this to us :) Was breathtaking 😊 Great memories 😊
Amazing! What did you do? I played it for a decade, you guys really created a marvel of a game.
@@luketimewalker I worked on the testing for the Agent and Smuggler classes :) every ability for both classes, along with their quest lines, were tested by me before going live.
Thank you for playing it, and saying that :) It actually means alot to be honest. We all worked really hard on it :)
@@michaelriddick7116 amazing ! The Agent story and its multiple possible endings is considered by many to be the best class story.
And since last year - or was it 2 years ago? - you can finally play an "agent" with a blaster, with the new rules.
Personally, I've created three "Mandos" (Din Djarin) just before that rule change, both wearing the exact same cosmetic armor, and one of them was an Operative.
Batman the foes and then shiv shiv shiv ^^. The other a Powertech and a Vanguard.
I haven't played in over a year but I might come back to it sometime!
I dare say I have created some of the very best strongholds in the game, and I should go back to record them one day. Took me years upon years to build...
They have dumbed down the rules a bit over the years, not sure how it is now, but the complexity of the skill trees was amazing in the beginning (I remember when you had to reload flechette round as a Scoundrel!)
As players we often felt over the years that Bioware was running the game with a skeleton crew, but I've often felt the level of care & detail that went into the inception of this masterpiece was really something, so I'm actually honored to get to tell one of the OG developers!
"OH SO YOU'RE A SPY TOO?!" *points finger*
One of my favorite lines in the whole game (when you first get into the Hutt's palace on Hutta and meet a fellow operative ^^')
Cheers from France ! I originally played on Mantle of the Forcen then had chars on all 17 servers (at the time, in 2012. I know there were a lot more at launch!)
@@michaelriddick7116 You know what, I'm friends & guildie with a famous Star Wars TH-camr who's very much into Swtor, in fact he's finishing his last class story these days (Consular).
His YT nick is Kyle Katarn. I'm CERTAIN he'd love to hear about you and possibly even interview you, either on Twitch and/or TH-cam.
Oh and hey: merry Christmas Michael!
Smuggler is me and my friends Favorite class. Such an epic quest line and the dialogue is so unique and so fitting. One of my favorites is when your hitting on that lady on Alderan and your wookie companion says something like, 'uh... I'm going to climb a tree' and exits the scene. I laughed so hard. The expansions lacked a lot of that and I think the game suffered for it. You and your team are legends.
p.s. Sorry for Fanboying, but damn, you guys did great work.
p.p.s Love the Beaker Muppet profile pic.
Darth Malgus is like the cockroach of Swtor, you think you killed and then he returns every time.
The truth is: the 3o min of old republic cinematics are 100x better than everything combined that Disney brought out ever. I would love too see a full movie like those cinematics.
The Old Republic cinematics not only set the tone and story for the first chapter of the game, they also introduced the classes. When you know, you can see it ;) I have been a Star Wars fan all my life and i have played the game a lot. And yeah, we will see Malgus again
they even introduce specific skills if you watch closely
I guess all but 2. Imp agent and Bounty hunter aren't there
@@JohnMasterCheifyou could maybe argue the twilek lady or shae count as bh
they NEED TO MAKE THESE INTO SHOWS
You're looking at around 3,650 years before the films.
Yep when the majority of Jedi deserved the title knights and the Sith weren't just group of unhinged conspirators but a full civilization
My one criticism of the trailer was the clone trooper uniforms that does not fit with the timeline at all
@@lylemoore3827 think that general style of armor likely has been around for a long time in star wars
@@dragonlord498 Its specifically noted that technology was knocked back to Mandalorian Wars era, which is about 300 years prior to this, during the Republic Dark Age which ended about 1000 BBY with the Ruusan Reformation. Given the lack of an organized military, its no surprise the GAR took inspiration from these older designs when outfitting the Clone Troopers.
@@Lorekeeper72 yep exactly plus it's a fairly descent design for your typical humanoid body type
I love your insight on this cinematic. If you watch the “Hope” and “Deceived” cinematics be sure to watch the versions with the original dialogue, not the altered dialogue.
indeed!
This game has THE BEST cinematic story telling of any game. It's a full on Star Wars movie and a damn good one. You need to find all of them. This one is chronologically the first, but was like the third to release. Return, Deceived, and Hope are SO good.
Since you mentioned "lightsaber fights done with stricter adherence to realistic swordplay", I have to recommend the video "To The DEATH" by Corridor. If you haven't seen it, it's a very strong example of it. Really amazing take on subtlety in lightsaber-style fights.
THANKS I was about to do the same. Sadly we can't put a link, but anyone can find the video with the title. It's an ASTONISHING VIDEO. Lightsaber duel, not SW.
I played this game for many years and I love how this cinematic showcases each of the classes. Gunslinger with his dual pistols, Commando with his giant cannon of a blaster, Jedi Knight strong and firm, Jedi Consular with her dual blade lightsaber... Just awesome! Not only is it a great cutscene but after you watch it and start playing a game you really feel like you're in that world side by side with those same characters. It's not just a nice video to watch to get hyped for the game it really is a part of the game
9:08 talking on “it’s something they know will happen” you are extremely correct as it’s fully part of the Sith tradition and code.
As a Sith Master your duty is to take on a Sith apprentice and train/raise them to be stronger than you, so that when they finally challenge you for your position, their heightened strength, power and skill will overwhelm your own, defeating you.
Yes, you are to literally raise your own assassin, but in doing so, as he takes your place, so does the strength and power of the Sith Empire rise alongside it, as you know through your death, that you have completely your duty in raising someone stronger to take your place, knowing that they too shall also one day follow in your footsteps in brining the Sith to greater heights of glory - it’s also why so many great Sith warriors and masters are honoured and remembered after their deaths, as they are honoured for doing their duty and carrying on the Sith legacy.
1000 years of Tenebrae Viciate's rule as emperor realy fostered that sentiment. In Naga Shadows Era, and before in the pre war era all the way to the dark jedi joining the sithari. Making your own "assassin" was not realy how it vent, it was more of a traditional making yourself strong wich then led to the empires prosperity thro your leadership and strength.
The kill your mentor, is viciate and after, due to viciate being the indesputable ruler for 100 years, and making the dark concil his administrators defacto (when he dident directly pippet them.
Wich later goes to revan and malak, wich then later gets picked up by bane's rule of 2, due to the sith being incapable of making an empire like of old, due to no one, being able to be it's undesputed ruler for long enogh, and being powerfull enogh in the force to truly rule a population of political sith elite
This one is the most well made of all the cinematics.
It has a pacing and flow that work wonderfully, and the choreography was amazing.
And the overall visuals.
SWTOR "Sacrifice" is phenomenal in its story telling. Excited for you to watch and react to that one.
Where to start.... This man is my new favorite. He speaks the truth when it comes to the sword comparison as well as the rest of the choreography. I seen many youtubers who are HEMA practitioners and just about all of them view starwars in a hyper realistic view, which is not always bad, its good to learn how its actually done in real life... but thats where it fails too. They are hyper focus on realism and not in the fantasy setting. This man, Philip, just stated facts that just about all hema youtubers dismissed, yet they acknowledge that there maybe some force influence, (even though it has to do with everything with the force) yet still dismiss it as unrealistic and impractical. And again, I respect them for their opinions and expert analysis. But this is star wars and you can obviously tell they are not super fans. I mean they are fans enough to know what star wars is and even quote some names, but thats about it. Also, they constently gloss over key details about how a jedi or even sith us the force and how it influences their everyday life. Literally in the star wars film, a new hope (or to us OG, Star Wars) Obi wan, sex appeal, Kenobi said to Luke to let go of his control, (not in those exact words) and to embrace his feelings. He even blind fold the kid with a blast shield helmet that blocks his view so that he can focus on the force itself. and then we literally see Luke deflecting stun bolts and there. Right there. No Hema guy is able to do that immedietly. Maybe by accident or by chance, but not on purpose.
Im sorry for the rant, its just, it gets tiring to hear the same, oh it wont work, or, thats not real enough. Again, and hopfully I get my point across, I respect them for that. I understand them, but they dont bother to understand Star Wars, but Philips, this guy whom I found cuz this year I decided to dedicate time to learn and improve my film making skills, exposed himself to be an understanding guy. He knows why the jedi are super human and how every move makes sense, cuz they aint us. They are literal super human who can hold planets together from it blowing up. I heard that feat from another star wars channel.
Oh, im subbing this channel hard and I cant wait to see more of Philips videos and learn more about filmmaking from him. Just by listening to his thoughts, tips and advice will be a huge help to me.
Thank you so much!!! Yes I have never heard anyone else say this and I want to keep spreading this idea around.
4:44 Yup, a very high level jedi. He's Kao Cen Darach and he had the rank of Battlemaster i.e. he was the jedi responsible for the lightsaber training in the entire Jedi Order. Kinda like a headmaster among the lightsaber combat instructors
A really cool thing they did with this was introduce you to each of the 4 republic classes you can play in the game, the Smuggler, the Trooper, the Jedi Knight & the Jedi Consular, so in addition to kicking off the story and introducing 2 of the focal characters in Satele Shan and Darth Malgus you also give each of the 4 classes a chance to show a little bit of what they do. You also get to see the Sith Warrior/Inquisitor & the Smuggler's personal ships.
The Old Republic era is prime Star Wars
Fun fact: Darth Malgus' class is different than his Sith master, his class gains power, more force as the combat is ongoing, game mechanic is you literally use combat skills to charge your force meter,than you can use it to unleash various devastating attacks. So it makes sense first the Jedi could hold both of them off, like deflecting the lighting to Malgus, etc, but by the end he was too powerful to defeat.
The little things can only be seen if checked frame by frame, like the Sith Master's force shield flashing, visible for a tiny time when the trooper shot a grenade/missile at him and it exploded (so that's why he wasn't affected), etc. etc.
By the way the Old Republic is several thousands of years before the movies, giving freedom for the developers to tell their story, which is absolutely amazing for both Republic and Imperial side, for each class (the game Star Wars: The Old Republic (SWTOR) takes place around 3640 BBY (Before the Battle of Yavin), which is about 3650 years before the events of the original Star Wars movie (A New Hope)
Loved the reaction, thumbs up!
Watching the video of the making of that lightsaber battle and the skill of the actors making the moves was incredible. This is probably my favorite of the SWTOR cinematics and all of them were really well done. There was great care and passion employed in creating them, you can tell..
That armored Zabrak with the green lightsaber was a Jedi Battlemaster which was the only rank of Jedi that was allowed to study form 7 of lightsaber combat
At 15:51 he activates the second blade on his saber staff, pretty cool.
Man you can't just stop at the first trailer :D So much fun! i hope you'll react with us to the rest of the cinematics ;) So enjoyable
especially you must not forget, their lightsabers, the weight distribution and the overall weight are completely different, and they are extremely hot sabers so you can go for other attacks than with for example a just two edged sword
I love what you're doing! Keep it up my dude!
this is exactly what star wars should be in the modern day, idk why they havnt given us this
Another great video! 🖤
Thank you my love!!
First time seeing your channel. Genuinely curious both: Where do you think the sabre duel in it's entirety with Kao Cen Darach, Satlile Shan, Darth Vindican, and Malgus, where in a list would you rank it compared to all other Star Wars duels? For me, this one is probalby my second favourite in all Star Wars.
I'd also be curious to know what you think of the duel between Obi Wan Kenobi and Maul on Tattoine from Star Wars Rebels? That one is my favourite of all Star Wars.
For this fight, I love that they show the Jedi actually winning a fight (and not because they're main legacy characters who need to survive and are the strongest always). I wish Kao Cen Darach had done a little better than Malgus. But at least we got to see a Jedi win a fight, and with aggressive well executed form. Jedi that aren't main characters are often used just to look cool before dying. But Kao Cen Darach was the Jedi Battlemaster at the time of the cinematic.
I wish that Star Wars could go back to something like this, I cannot put my finger on what exactly it is, but this feels way more "Star Wars" than any of the newer movies and shows.
3:24 Answering your question about the timeline...
This is the Old Republic era, in other words, 4700 years BBY(before the battle of Yavin 4 in "A New Hope"). During this time period, there is no Sith Rule of 2... meaning there were as many Sith as there were Jedi. One thing that hasn't change in almost 5000 years is the Mandalorians and the Hutts, they play a huge roll in this time period as well.
KOTOR is set 4000 years before the Original Trilogy and 300 years before SWTOR. That puts SWTOR at 3700 years before A New Hope.
im looking forward to your reactions to alle the trailers. they are all fantastic and Star Wars as it should be
Man... I look at this and think of what could have been... and what we got instead...
This cinematic takes place 3,681 years before A New Hope. Satele Shan (the female Jedi) is 18 years old, and Darth Malgus (the Sith that kills his master) is 19 years old. This is the start of the Great Galactic War between the Galactic Republic and the Sith Empire. The war lasts 28 years.
Best cinematics ever.. and the game was special, really loved the story and voice acting
Dude I've never watched that before either. That was epic! Why they dont just do this level of stuff in the movies I dont know. Crazy!
What happend to sound on 4:26? It sounds like from another source
One complaint I have is that animators always have them holding the lightsabers wrong. For example, at 16:00 you can see he’s holding his green saber near the bottom. His hand should be higher, specifically right beneath the blade. That’s where you would hold a sword in order to have the most control and leverage possible.
I remember a certain novel explaining there are different grips for different types of power/agility ratio. Lower grips would be for more power and higher would be for more maneuverability and agile strikes. This is apparent when you see Anakin fight (he holds his saber near the bottom.)
based on the lore as far as i know the problem with thrusts is that the weight distribution of the blade changes because it isnt solid, the reason force users can use these weapons that well is that they can forsee the changes but like that a thrust would be a problem if the wieght suddenly pulls strongly to a point at the peak of the weapon
Phillip, I just now found your channel from this video. I absolutely liked the prequels, and I still do. We got the best lightsaber duels in the prequels, and we got to see how the Jedi Order actually functioned. I was already a Star Wars fan before I saw the prequels, from watching the originals as a kid; I'm 46 so I'm one of those Gen X fans who liked the prequels. So, I get what you said in this video. I did play The Old Republic for over a year and half from spring 2021 to autumn 2022, but it was so such as big story, and I wanted to play other games, so I quit playing. But the cinematics still hold up as the modeling and animation is amazing for 2010! I don't know how Bioware made such good cinematic trailers, but these should be expanded from the game and made into movies! Not many fans know this, but the era of 3,600 Before The Battle Of Yavin(as it used to date events that happened before it, and after it still hold true) I also did martial arts, and had katana training as my intention was to do katana kata competitions at tournaments. It was so fun learning those moves! I can appreciate your analysis of the lightsaber dueling between Darth Maglus and Satele's Master, and between the Sith Master and Satele! I think was well done too. Very cool video!
This was done by Blur studio, which is owned by Tim Miller, the director of the first Deadpool movie. This was done years before Deadpool, so I would not be surprised if he also directed this cinematic.
The game takes place about 3600 years before the Battle of Yavin (Episode 4).
All Knights of the Old Republic media takes place between 3964-3951 BBY. The video games Knights of the Old Republic and Knights of the old Republic II take place in 3956 and 3951 respectively. This timeline is intended to list narrative-based Legends media by an in-universe chronology.
When you eventually check out the the other cinematics, namely "Hope" and "Deceived", please do the videos with the original audio. For some reason they released some other versions later with new voice lines etc., which are really bad compared to the original ones.
The fight scenes or much of the animation was done using motion capture.
You need to watch other trailers, they continue the story.
Another interesting Star Wars trailer is for Force Unleashed 2.
About 3600-500 BBY
First fight
Battle Master Kao Cen Darak and Satele Shan vs Darth Vindican and Darth Malgus
These cinematics still look perfect over a decade after they were made
Sellssword arts actually made a good argument on how to balance out flashy moves with practical moves
That was Darth Malgus, when he looked his prettiest. The timeline is around 3600-3500 years BBY. 300 years after Revan and Bastilla from KOTOR.
This is thousands of years BBY, before the Rule of Two, so the Sith wars more numerous in this era.
One of the main recurring stories in this MMO is that every time the Sith get the upper hand their own infighting does them in. It's basically a long explanation of why the Rule of Two was needed.
That's Darth Malgus (not to be confused with Malak) and Satele is Revan/Bastila's great-granddaughter. The guys who look like clones armor wise are Republic Troopers.
Also I have fencing experience as well, and honestly, when I watch SW for entertainment, I just go "anything inaccurate/showboat-y is gonna be because they have the force (aka. superpowers)." Another thing that I feel should be used more in SW is the fact that they can retract and re-deploy the blades almost instantaneously. They do it for a moment here, but I think this is the only video where it's utilized in combat.
I'm totally here for a full Old Republic movie reaction 😍
I don't know if I'm going to have time to make it through this whole video or not to tell whether or not you noticed but, did you notice when the Sith ship landed in the hangar Bay it landed catty-cornered so that way the Jedi did not have a straight inline shot into the Docking Bay of the Sith ship? I thought that was a pretty cool touch
There was also this opening scene where the Sith invaded a Jedi Temple that was so memorable for me. That could have been a great inspiration to do something similar in the sequel trilogies. Too bad Lucas' Star Wars never got a sequel trilogy...
You're gonna love the Fall of Courscant cinematic.
Malgus letting his master look at Korriban before killing him was interesting.
This cinematic is better than anything Disney's put out the past 10 years. This actually feels like Star Wars this actually looks and sounds like Star Wars everything about this is what Star Wars is supposed to be if someone were to take this and turn it into an open world/galaxy Star Wars game it could be probably the greatest game ever
keep in mind that these events take place 1000 years before the prequels. So no Clone Troopers, no Droidekas, and there are a LOT more than 2 Sith.
If you haven't done so yet, I recommend reacting to the cinematics from the Starcraft series of games. Some serious lore and cinematography there.
I wish Disney would get there act together to expand on this content. There is so much to be explored and Disney can make alot of money and fans get everything they want.
Who are the other characters in the first Malgus scene?
This cutscene is the best lightsaber fight ever done.
Fun fact, Malgus’s master Vindican is a pureblood sith
You hit it on the head that this game was made from a place of love for Star Wars, its origins, its lore, and its fan base. The game was a major let down, BUT, the storyline’s and the work the team has done in the decade since its release still reflect that sentiment. I would have paid this team to write the sequel trilogy than the trash we got.
And remember, this cinematic over 12 years old!
A movie like this will never be made! These clips are so much more intriguing then anything made by Disney! They could have made at least 3 different series from this period in lore history. But instead we get the Acolyte
The rule of two made Darth Bane and that was even long before this time..maybe it was lost to time before Revan found it? :X
Looking forward to you doing the other SWTOR cinematics!
The EU lore behind it, is that clone trooper armor is based off of Mandalorian armor and the armor of the troopers of the old republic. Men and Women who while not force sensitive could go toe to toe with the average sith in hand to hand and close combat.
I'm enjoying the 2x exp bonus on the Server Shae Vizla on swtor atm.
Yeaa the lightsaber choreography is pretty awesome,
This trailer is what made me get into the game as the smuggler
I saw a great theory where the old republic and prequil movie lightsaber fights are way action-packed than the OG and Disney is that the jedi and sith were at their peak of skill and force sensitivity. When bane created the rule of two, it off set the Force, not allowing the jedi, who kept expanding, to use the full sense of the Force. When Order 66 came around and the Empire, the Empire erradicated all signs, hints, history, and symbols of the Old Republic. That is why in the OG trilogy, Luke had to create his own form based off of Ben's teachings. Then, intoduce Disney. The lightsabers are now choppy, you don't know if the lightsaber is a pointy stick or a slice-em-in-half weapon. The coreography is alright but it doesn't follow any set or pattern. That is because the force sensitives are heraring legends of this once great republic( plus the help of Luke's teachings) that is basicly, redefining the jedi ways. They are starting from scratch.
I feel like it is more of a justification for the Sequels being good, but Disney just needs to stop caring as much as they are, have fun wit the lore, stop complicting the scripts to fit in with modern day politics and beliefs, and for god's sake, read the damn lore and use star wars weapons as they are described. Lightsabers burn at over 1000 degrees. If you are stabbed, you are dead, not only from the stab wound but also your internal organs buring to a crisp.
Pardon the rant. Have a wonderful day, and leave a like of we need an old republic trilogy from either the Bane, Malgus, or Revan time.
I think it´s 3000 years before Starwars as we know it. Not shure about but its alooooong time past.
You might want to see the Darth Maul apprentice fanmovie. Its so good.
There is a 4K version on youtube buddy
Please make sure you use the official videos. There are some videos like the so called SWTOR movie that use unofficial dialogue and sound, and in those circumstances frankly it sounds awful and the dialogue doesn't fit. It doesn't happen frequently but when it does it really is subpar to the official SWTOR cinematic videos. The Sith was Darth Malgus and this is set about 3000 years before the movies.
Add another 700 years to that.
I'm sure other people have answered you on the timeline. But I'd just like to point out that Darth Bane existed a thousand years before the prequels. If we line up the dates there was a single human lifetime between Bane's death and Yoda's birth.
This period of star wars way more interesting than prequels on
We need a Darth Revan movie
Anyone else feel like this guy should direct the next Star Wars film?
Dope as hell!!
Its sad that game's cinematics are 1000x better than full movies. Old Republic Star Wars era is the best.
This is all taking place about 3500 - 3000 years Before the Battle of Yavin.
3.5k years before new hope
SWTOR is set more than 3,600 years before the events in the Star Wars films
Looking forward to your video on the Eternal Empire expansions.
Well I believe it’s like 3500 years before the prequels. Satele Shan the main female protagonist is Revan and Bastila’s granddaughter.
Close, 3700 years. KOTOR is 4000 years before the movies and SWTOR is 300 years after KOTOR.
Worth noting is that this is EU content, so it is part of a different continuity than the sequel trilogy and everything made post-2012ish.
give even more respect to the master cuz green lightsabers usually meant you were more with the force and blue was that u were a lightsaber user primarily
If I'm not mistaken it's during the 3K BBY. During the great Wars
I honestly don't know why they don't make movies like this. Same with something like World of Warcraft cinematics...
I've thought for a long time now that they need to do all star wars projects with these graphics. Screw the clone wars and rebels cartoon style and screw live action. You can do so much more with this.
You should check out the Knights of the Eternal Empire trailer.
I want a cinematic star wars film!!!!!
It was such a cool game, I just wish it wasn't neglected to become so lame