Should I mention the Tokyo to Hokkaido bullet train with a route of about 300 miles, some of it underwater, cost less than $5B to build. Labor & building materials in Japan is not cheap. $10B for less than 20 miles of rail on Oahu is stupid bad. Where did the money go? Incompetence or corruption, either way we are throwing money away that we critically need now.
@@dellkajiwara5377 Mufi proved by initiating this that he knows nothing about running Hawaii’s economy. The majority are still burdened by his mistake of pushing this through, making most of Honolulu working class poorer. Those very, very select few that benefit from this can afford to send their kids to Iolani.🤮
Any and all extensions are probably wanted and needed over the long term as Honolulu densifies especially along the route at station stops. In 10-20 years it should look A LOT like the Vancouver Skytrain system if you ask me! At least in an ideal world!
$10 billion for 10 years project? Heck even Asian countries like Japan or China could do for less money for a faster build time! Total incompetence! At least it would've been nice if it started in Kapolei all the way to Waikiki or Ala Moana at least!!
I live around kalihi area and it feels like they haven't put up any new pillars pass the freeway off ramp by the kalihi transit in years. Wtf are they doing!?
I sincerely hope this continues from Kapolei Station west to Ko Olina and on to at least Nanakuli. The old railroad right of way at ground level would be a cheaper option along Roosevelt and on west. Certainly hope it gets to near Ala Moana soon to gain riders. Plus, hope the NIMBY people can be ignored. They will eventually like it!
This is never going to happen nor should it. The Skyline (which we just call “rail”) as it stands now won’t even serve the whole of the urban core. Extending it through the urban core into affluent and less dense Kahala and Hawaii Kai makes no sense given the astronomical costs it would face going through that area and low ridership.
Planet Transit for dictator! (because that's the endrun around NIMBY) really like this series, but feels kind of sad that it won't actually happen. your music blasts over your voiceover starting around 11 mins. It made sense when talking about the zoo and noise, but seems like there was content missed towards the end
Most importantly, I think it can easily go further west out to the koolina resorts. They can easily build it ground level on the old rail road tracks out there. We have the space to do it, and it should be pretty easy and straightforward to do. But sadly, extending rail in any direction probably won't happen in any of our lifetimes. It's sad knowing that these projects can get done quickly and on budget in North America. Vancouver continues to expand their skytrain all the time and do it quickly and cost effectively. Vancouver was able to build an extension of their rail called the "Canada line" which started construction in 2004 and was finished in 2009, they had about 15 miles of track and it cost them under 2 billion CAD to build. This would be like HART being able to complete our skyline project for 3-4 billion USD. This just shows how incompetence and leadership from politicians, unions, contractors, etc. can really screw over a project.
I think it should start at Ko Olina from Disney for the tourists, go past the Airport and end near the Kahala mall. This way locals are not stuck in traffic on H-1.
The skyline should of started from downtown and headed outwards to the west, by now they would of starting to make money. But they started from the wrong direction, now with over run cost and no ending in sight, they now shortened the route. (What good is it if you can not get it to downtown!!)
It Is going downtown, though, once they finish the entire project. The commenter before me is correct. They needed a train yard and operation center. There was no space for that in town, so it wouldn't have been functional anyway until they commented downtown to the maintenance train yard. They will be done with the airport and transit center stations by 2025, so tourists can atleast take the train from the airport and go to the transit center or go out west to the terminus station out there, where the hotels should have shuttle busses and there will be city busses also.
Over 10 billion dollars into this money pit. Throwing good money after bad. Why? We have greater needs. The road maintenance on Oahu is really, really bad. We have a serious homeless & drug problems. WTF?
Grass is a type of plant with narrow leaves growing from the base. Their appearance as a common plant was in the mid-Cretaceous period. There are 12,000 species now.[3] A common kind of grass is used to cover the ground in places such as lawns and parks. Grass is usually the color green. That is because they are wind-pollinated rather than insect-pollinated, so they do not have to attract insects. Green is the best colour for photosynthesis. Grasslands such as savannah and prairie are where grasses are dominant. They cover 40.5% of the land area of the Earth, but not Greenland and Antarctica.[4] Grasses are monocotyledon herbaceous plants. They include the "grass" of the family Poaceae, which are called grass by ordinary people. This family is also called the Gramineae, and includes some of the sedges (Cyperaceae) and the rushes (Juncaceae).[5] These three families are not very closely related, though all of them belong to clades in the order Poales. They are similar adaptations to a similar life-style. With about 780 genera and about 12,000 species,[3] the Poaceae is the fifth-largest plant family. Only the Asteraceae, Orchidaceae, Fabaceae and Rubiaceae have more species.[6] The true grasses include cereals, bamboo and the grasses of lawns (turf) and grassland. Uses for graminoids include food (as grain, shoots or rhizomes), drink (beer, whisky), pasture for livestock, thatch, paper, fuel, clothing, insulation, construction, basket weaving and many others. Many grasses are short, but some grasses can grow tall, such as bamboo. Plants from the grass family can grow in many places and make grasslands, including areas which are very dry or cold. There are several other plants that look similar to grass and are referred to as such, but are not members of the grass family. These plants include rushes, reeds, papyrus and water chestnut. Seagrass is a monocot in the order Alismatales. Grasses are an important food for many animals, such as deer, buffalo, cattle, mice, grasshoppers, caterpillars and many other grazers. Unlike other plants, grasses grow from the bottom, so when animals eat grass they usually do not destroy the part that grows.[7] This is part of the reason why the plants are so successful. Without grass, more soil might wash away into rivers (erosion). Evolution of grass Grasses include some of the most versatile plant life-forms. They became widespread toward the end of the Cretaceous. Fossilized dinosaur dung (coprolites) have been found containing grass phytoliths (silica stones inside grass leaves).[8] Grasses have adapted to conditions in lush rain forests, dry deserts, cold mountains and even intertidal habitats, and are now the most widespread plant type. Grass is a valuable source of food and energy for many animals.[9] Grass and people Lawn grass is often planted on sports fields and in the area around a building. Sometimes chemicals and water is used to help lawns to grow. People have used grasses for a long time. People eat parts of grasses. Corn, wheat, barley, oats, rice and millet are cereals, common grains whose seeds are used for food and to make alcohol such as beer. Sugar comes from sugar cane, which is also a plant in the grass family. People have grown grasses as food for farm animals for about 4,000 years. People use bamboo to build houses, fences, furniture and other things. Grass plants can also be used as fuel, to cover rooves, and to weave baskets. Language In English, the word "grass" appears in several phrases. For example: "The grass is always greener on the other side" means "people are never happy with what they have and want something else". "Don't let the grass grow under your feet" means "Do something". "A snake in the grass" is about a person that will not be honest and will trick others. All flesh is grass: Old Testament book of Isaiah, chapter 40, verses 6-8. A very true observation of the present-day ecology. See the Miocene for the ecological relevance. Grass is a slang term for cannabis (pot, weed, or marijuana). Cannabis looks like a grass, but it is actually a rosid. References Yan Wu; Hai-Lu You; Xiao-Qiang Li (2018). "Dinosaur-associated Poaceae epidermis and phytoliths from the Early Cretaceous of China". National Science Review. 5 (5): 721-727. doi:10.1093/nsr/nwx145. ISSN 2053-714X. Angiosperm Phylogeny Group (2009). "An update of the Angiosperm Phylogeny class classification for the orders and families of flowering plants: APG III". Botanical Journal of the Linnean Society. 161 (2): 105-121. doi:10.1111/j.1095-8339.2009.00996.x. Christenhusz, M.J.M.; Byng, J.W. (2016). "The number of known plants species in the world and its annual increase". Phytotaxa. 261 (3): 201-217. doi:10.11646/phytotaxa.261.3.1. Archived from the original on 2016-07-29. Reynolds, S.G. "Grassland of the world". www.fao.org. Archived from the original on 2016-09-20. Retrieved 2016-10-04. Chapman G.P. & Peat W.E. 1992. An introduction to the grasses. Oxford: CAB Internat. "Angiosperm Phylogeny Website". Archived from the original on 23 March 2016. Retrieved 20 March 2016. Cheplick G.P. 1998. Population biology of grasses. Cambridge University Press. Piperno, Doris E. & Sues, Hans-Dieter 2010. Dinosaurs dined on grass. Science. 310 (5751), pp. 1126-1128. Soderstrom T.R. et al (eds) 1987. Grass systematics and evolution. Smithsonian Institution Press, Washington, D.C.
I think we’re missing the big picture. Shouldn’t rail go to the moon? It would cheaper and faster than launching rockets. Honolulu tax payers have rail that’s only over budget by 300%+ with a shorten rail line to cut costs and was projected to finished years many ago (the entire project). We don’t even have the 2nd third section running. Any extensions are only being promoted by greedy vested people like construction there unions, architects, companies that do environmental studies, etc… God forbid a real audit is ever done it, showing millions of dollars missing and everyone involved shrugging there shoulders and no repercussions.
This guy is racist about the Hawaiian culture and call them nimbe’s and demo one school to turn into a station?? so wrong , especially making this go into Hawaii Kai the rail is over budget already and there still going to be people be stuck on the rail if something goes wrong again they can’t even fix the roads
Sorry my friend but you are dreaming, and if they do there will be 5 riders a day instead of the 1 they have now; it will be completed in the year 3000.
@@hicharbud I do, actually. It's quite convenient and faster than driving in the afternoons. I also get my steps in walking from the station if I don't take the bus for the last mile so it's a win-win for me. Can confirm there are actually several thousand people riding the train every day. Many times during rush hour I can't find a seat in the front car.
@@XCodes There's an express that takes the freeway from town to the Aloha Stadium station that comes every ten minutes during rush hour. The bus gets stuck in that congestion for a bit but once I get on Skyline it's a breeze. I get off at Waipahu and depending on if the circulator bus is coming or not I either take that or walk home. Honestly, the bus hub at Middle Street would be more important than the airport for me come time for when the extension (hopefully) opens end of next year.
Logical, indeed. With $30bil spent so far, this should already be up and running. The corrupt salivate over endless budget extensions while Honolulu becomes LA. 😡 🚗 🚌 🛻 🚙 🚎
Should I mention the Tokyo to Hokkaido bullet train with a route of about 300 miles, some of it underwater, cost less than $5B to build. Labor & building materials in Japan is not cheap. $10B for less than 20 miles of rail on Oahu is stupid bad. Where did the money go? Incompetence or corruption, either way we are throwing money away that we critically need now.
I agree with you all the way since I am from ewa beach, and they've been on this dumb project since 2013.
@@dellkajiwara5377 Mufi proved by initiating this that he knows nothing about running Hawaii’s economy. The majority are still burdened by his mistake of pushing this through, making most of Honolulu working class poorer. Those very, very select few that benefit from this can afford to send their kids to Iolani.🤮
I’ve always thought it should go to at least Kahala, where the H1 ends. Any further is probably a stretch but we can dream! 😅
They could do it in two phases, extend it to Kahala in phase 1 and to Koko marina in phase 2.
The eminent domain costs would be insane in Kahala unless they have an existing right of way.
@@mbarrett99along the existing kalanianiole should work.
Any and all extensions are probably wanted and needed over the long term as Honolulu densifies especially along the route at station stops. In 10-20 years it should look A LOT like the Vancouver Skytrain system if you ask me! At least in an ideal world!
Densifying? Honolulu is not densifying.
$10 billion for 10 years project? Heck even Asian countries like Japan or China could do for less money for a faster build time! Total incompetence! At least it would've been nice if it started in Kapolei all the way to Waikiki or Ala Moana at least!!
I live around kalihi area and it feels like they haven't put up any new pillars pass the freeway off ramp by the kalihi transit in years. Wtf are they doing!?
The music is louder than the narration
I love this!! Thank you for making this. Do more!
I sincerely hope this continues from Kapolei Station west to Ko Olina and on to at least Nanakuli. The old railroad right of way at ground level would be a cheaper option along Roosevelt and on west. Certainly hope it gets to near Ala Moana soon to gain riders. Plus, hope the NIMBY people can be ignored. They will eventually like it!
A wast of money since nobody uses it in the first place
Maybe because it's not finished and currently goes to nowhere 😂, maybe wait until it's finished until you make a judgment
This is never going to happen nor should it. The Skyline (which we just call “rail”) as it stands now won’t even serve the whole of the urban core. Extending it through the urban core into affluent and less dense Kahala and Hawaii Kai makes no sense given the astronomical costs it would face going through that area and low ridership.
I wouldn't expand Skyline to Hawaii Kai. I would do Lightrail between Middle Street and Hawaii Kai
For some reason there was a band playing awful music and drowning out whatever you said. I would fire your producer.
Planet Transit for dictator! (because that's the endrun around NIMBY)
really like this series, but feels kind of sad that it won't actually happen.
your music blasts over your voiceover starting around 11 mins. It made sense when talking about the zoo and noise, but seems like there was content missed towards the end
They need it to go to wahiawa and mililani
Nice look into a possible extension!
Good work as usual!
Most importantly, I think it can easily go further west out to the koolina resorts. They can easily build it ground level on the old rail road tracks out there. We have the space to do it, and it should be pretty easy and straightforward to do. But sadly, extending rail in any direction probably won't happen in any of our lifetimes. It's sad knowing that these projects can get done quickly and on budget in North America. Vancouver continues to expand their skytrain all the time and do it quickly and cost effectively. Vancouver was able to build an extension of their rail called the "Canada line" which started construction in 2004 and was finished in 2009, they had about 15 miles of track and it cost them under 2 billion CAD to build. This would be like HART being able to complete our skyline project for 3-4 billion USD. This just shows how incompetence and leadership from politicians, unions, contractors, etc. can really screw over a project.
Coming in the next episode
I think it should start at Ko Olina from Disney for the tourists, go past the Airport and end near the Kahala mall. This way locals are not stuck in traffic on H-1.
They should be figuring out how to dismantle it… every time I look at it is got less than 10 people riding it. Most of the time it’s empty
That's cause right now it just goes from east Kapolei to the Aloha Stadium
The skyline should of started from downtown and headed outwards to the west, by now they would of starting to make money. But they started from the wrong direction, now with over run cost and no ending in sight, they now shortened the route. (What good is it if you can not get it to downtown!!)
Problem is, they needed an operations and maintenance center. No space for that if starting from downtown
It Is going downtown, though, once they finish the entire project. The commenter before me is correct. They needed a train yard and operation center. There was no space for that in town, so it wouldn't have been functional anyway until they commented downtown to the maintenance train yard. They will be done with the airport and transit center stations by 2025, so tourists can atleast take the train from the airport and go to the transit center or go out west to the terminus station out there, where the hotels should have shuttle busses and there will be city busses also.
Great job! You should do extension videos for westward into at least Ko Olina, as well as north up to Wahiawa.
It was supposed to help with traffic. It has destroyed traffic for years and still does. This needs to be shut down.
Music became louder could not understand speaker.
You should make a aulani station and Kapolei commons station
it would be cool if the city moved the zoo inside diamond head crater.
Should've just had it plan to loop the whole island.
So 20+ more years and 5x more than has already been spent? Sounds like the bargain of the millennium.😅
Over 10 billion dollars into this money pit. Throwing good money after bad. Why? We have greater needs. The road maintenance on Oahu is really, really bad. We have a serious homeless & drug problems. WTF?
Grass is a type of plant with narrow leaves growing from the base. Their appearance as a common plant was in the mid-Cretaceous period. There are 12,000 species now.[3]
A common kind of grass is used to cover the ground in places such as lawns and parks. Grass is usually the color green. That is because they are wind-pollinated rather than insect-pollinated, so they do not have to attract insects. Green is the best colour for photosynthesis.
Grasslands such as savannah and prairie are where grasses are dominant. They cover 40.5% of the land area of the Earth, but not Greenland and Antarctica.[4]
Grasses are monocotyledon herbaceous plants. They include the "grass" of the family Poaceae, which are called grass by ordinary people. This family is also called the Gramineae, and includes some of the sedges (Cyperaceae) and the rushes (Juncaceae).[5] These three families are not very closely related, though all of them belong to clades in the order Poales. They are similar adaptations to a similar life-style.
With about 780 genera and about 12,000 species,[3] the Poaceae is the fifth-largest plant family. Only the Asteraceae, Orchidaceae, Fabaceae and Rubiaceae have more species.[6]
The true grasses include cereals, bamboo and the grasses of lawns (turf) and grassland. Uses for graminoids include food (as grain, shoots or rhizomes), drink (beer, whisky), pasture for livestock, thatch, paper, fuel, clothing, insulation, construction, basket weaving and many others.
Many grasses are short, but some grasses can grow tall, such as bamboo. Plants from the grass family can grow in many places and make grasslands, including areas which are very dry or cold. There are several other plants that look similar to grass and are referred to as such, but are not members of the grass family. These plants include rushes, reeds, papyrus and water chestnut. Seagrass is a monocot in the order Alismatales.
Grasses are an important food for many animals, such as deer, buffalo, cattle, mice, grasshoppers, caterpillars and many other grazers. Unlike other plants, grasses grow from the bottom, so when animals eat grass they usually do not destroy the part that grows.[7] This is part of the reason why the plants are so successful.
Without grass, more soil might wash away into rivers (erosion).
Evolution of grass
Grasses include some of the most versatile plant life-forms. They became widespread toward the end of the Cretaceous. Fossilized dinosaur dung (coprolites) have been found containing grass phytoliths (silica stones inside grass leaves).[8] Grasses have adapted to conditions in lush rain forests, dry deserts, cold mountains and even intertidal habitats, and are now the most widespread plant type. Grass is a valuable source of food and energy for many animals.[9]
Grass and people
Lawn grass is often planted on sports fields and in the area around a building. Sometimes chemicals and water is used to help lawns to grow.
People have used grasses for a long time. People eat parts of grasses. Corn, wheat, barley, oats, rice and millet are cereals, common grains whose seeds are used for food and to make alcohol such as beer.
Sugar comes from sugar cane, which is also a plant in the grass family. People have grown grasses as food for farm animals for about 4,000 years. People use bamboo to build houses, fences, furniture and other things. Grass plants can also be used as fuel, to cover rooves, and to weave baskets.
Language
In English, the word "grass" appears in several phrases. For example:
"The grass is always greener on the other side" means "people are never happy with what they have and want something else".
"Don't let the grass grow under your feet" means "Do something".
"A snake in the grass" is about a person that will not be honest and will trick others.
All flesh is grass: Old Testament book of Isaiah, chapter 40, verses 6-8. A very true observation of the present-day ecology. See the Miocene for the ecological relevance.
Grass is a slang term for cannabis (pot, weed, or marijuana). Cannabis looks like a grass, but it is actually a rosid.
References
Yan Wu; Hai-Lu You; Xiao-Qiang Li (2018). "Dinosaur-associated Poaceae epidermis and phytoliths from the Early Cretaceous of China". National Science Review. 5 (5): 721-727. doi:10.1093/nsr/nwx145. ISSN 2053-714X.
Angiosperm Phylogeny Group (2009). "An update of the Angiosperm Phylogeny class classification for the orders and families of flowering plants: APG III". Botanical Journal of the Linnean Society. 161 (2): 105-121. doi:10.1111/j.1095-8339.2009.00996.x.
Christenhusz, M.J.M.; Byng, J.W. (2016). "The number of known plants species in the world and its annual increase". Phytotaxa. 261 (3): 201-217. doi:10.11646/phytotaxa.261.3.1. Archived from the original on 2016-07-29.
Reynolds, S.G. "Grassland of the world". www.fao.org. Archived from the original on 2016-09-20. Retrieved 2016-10-04.
Chapman G.P. & Peat W.E. 1992. An introduction to the grasses. Oxford: CAB Internat.
"Angiosperm Phylogeny Website". Archived from the original on 23 March 2016. Retrieved 20 March 2016.
Cheplick G.P. 1998. Population biology of grasses. Cambridge University Press.
Piperno, Doris E. & Sues, Hans-Dieter 2010. Dinosaurs dined on grass. Science. 310 (5751), pp. 1126-1128.
Soderstrom T.R. et al (eds) 1987. Grass systematics and evolution. Smithsonian Institution Press, Washington, D.C.
I think we’re missing the big picture. Shouldn’t rail go to the moon? It would cheaper and faster than launching rockets. Honolulu tax payers have rail that’s only over budget by 300%+ with a shorten rail line to cut costs and was projected to finished years many ago (the entire project). We don’t even have the 2nd third section running. Any extensions are only being promoted by greedy vested people like construction there unions, architects, companies that do environmental studies, etc… God forbid a real audit is ever done it, showing millions of dollars missing and everyone involved shrugging there shoulders and no repercussions.
1 trillion dollars. Not bad
It can't even get past kalihi.
It would look like $100B
Would be a good way to waste a few more billion dollars
A few billion? At the rate it's going this would cost trillions.
The music gets a bit loud at 2:54
Of course, this will never happen.
This guy is racist about the Hawaiian culture and call them nimbe’s and demo one school to turn into a station?? so wrong , especially making this go into Hawaii Kai the rail is over budget already and there still going to be people be stuck on the rail if something goes wrong again they can’t even fix the roads
Feels like Christmas day!
NO ONE RIDES this! Why extend it?! To keep rail EXECUTIVES EMPLOYED?!
Sorry my friend but you are dreaming, and if they do there will be 5 riders a day instead of the 1 they have now; it will be completed in the year 3000.
Enjoy being stuck in H1 congestion then. I'll be taking the train.
@@georgemann3369 like you are now who you kidding
@@hicharbud I do, actually. It's quite convenient and faster than driving in the afternoons. I also get my steps in walking from the station if I don't take the bus for the last mile so it's a win-win for me. Can confirm there are actually several thousand people riding the train every day. Many times during rush hour I can't find a seat in the front car.
@@XCodes There's an express that takes the freeway from town to the Aloha Stadium station that comes every ten minutes during rush hour. The bus gets stuck in that congestion for a bit but once I get on Skyline it's a breeze. I get off at Waipahu and depending on if the circulator bus is coming or not I either take that or walk home.
Honestly, the bus hub at Middle Street would be more important than the airport for me come time for when the extension (hopefully) opens end of next year.
This shit is a waste of tax payers money.
Logical, indeed.
With $30bil spent so far, this should already be up and running. The corrupt salivate over endless budget extensions while Honolulu becomes LA. 😡 🚗 🚌 🛻 🚙 🚎
IT WOULD BE WHAT BANKRUPED HAWAII.