2024 Ford Super Duty: Why We Passed...
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I Love Diesels and have had them all my life. But, would not buy one today as a personal truck. I will go with gas and not tow heavy or just use as a tow behind.
Reasons IMHO:
1. Have handled a small fleet of Rams, Duramax and PStrokes with each running 100k plus in miles per year. The number one issue we have with the trucks, Semis and equipment is the DEF systems. Absolutely hate them. The ones who designed, pushed and voted on this crap, should be made to repair themselves and pay for the repair.
2. The 20-30% fuel savings is lost in the fuel price. For us it avg between .50 to 1.25 Per Gall difference. Have seen it at 1.50.
3. HP Fuel Systems can be a huge issue. Seen it happen.
So as much as I love the 2500 & 3500 diesels (have had many of them), not planning to buy any more unless things change drastically.
THE JUICE IS NOT WORTH THE QUEEZE!!!! Again IMHO and this is for me and my family. Just giving food for thought.
se i would rather have gas in modern trucks BECAUSE diesel fuel is the poorest quality it has ever been in the USA and diesel trucks today are WAY so sensitive to contamination
@@jos6216 The EPA has ruined all diesel engines with their regs. It's just sad.
That kid working on your truck at the end. Those dudes are treasures. We need like a million like him.
We agree!
I came here to make a similar comment. Love seeing a person that cares about their job, and you can tell he does.
@@Summit4x4Company I just bought an F-350 and want some similar work done... how far out is your typical scheduling?
It was nice seeing that he had invested wisely in his tools and went very affordable on his box and roll cart.
Don’t ever let a place hook a machine up and “flush” your transmission. Drain, replace filter, fill, done. Never “flush”.
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Ford hasn’t been drain and fill for a couple decades. You have to have a special machine to extract or add fluid.
@@taylorjackson7908 my old 2005 and 2010 F150 would disagree
@@bizzfo correction they sealed the transmissions in 2017. They no longer have a dipstick either.
@@taylorjackson7908 yet another reason to not buy a Ford.
It sure is a pleasure seeing a younger person who is knowledgeable, confident and articulate in the service industry.
The simple fact that you guys don't sit and talk us to death in your vids is a primary reason I keep following you and have for years. Not to mention the quality content you guys bring to the table.💖💖
Except this time! I figured people could skip to the satisfying part.
@@KeepYourDaydream No need to worry. When you guys talk there is content being relayed you don't just babble. I have never, in all the years I have followed KYD, had to skip any of you content!!! NONE! Love all you videos, and so much so, I now drive an F350 SD(kind of influenced by you guys😉) we've bought Trish's cookbook and spices(and rebought the spices) etc etc. Much love and much respect to KYD and the KYD philosophy.💖💖
Im not even into trucks or mechanics, but this video was oddly satisfying. It’s always nice to see people do a job they are knowledgeable and passionate about, and that aspect came thru on this video. Bonus is seeing real men wrenching and fixing stuff. Definitely an art to be appreciated.
I made a similar (but less well phrased) comment, and then scrolled down a few lines and saw yours. Coulda saved my fingers a few keystrokes and just liked this one. 😉
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Ha! I just got done watching and made similar comment 😄👍💕!
Speaking as an old ex mechanic that did this kind of work, most folks now don't want to get their hands dirty and the time it takes to learn a skill. Most would rather make youtube videos and make easier money by not working for a living. I can't blame them for doing that.
Summit 4x4 nailed it!. That young man's professionalism and work process are a real treasure. What a great shop environment that was created to allow that young man to succeed. Aside from that, I have followed you since the first flat tire on your maiden voyage. Watch every week. I am building our trailer now. Hope to see you on the road in the future.
Thanks John. We're glad you're here.
Let me Thank You Mark for being a good consumer. You armed yourself with knowledge, which is so powerful to make your decisions. I have learned so much from you sharing your experience and transitions KYD as you travel the country. Hats off and much respect for the way you make the best decisions for you and yours. Thanks again for sharing.
THE VERY YOUNGGGGGGG MAN THAT WORKED ON UR VEHICLE WAS IMPRESSIVE WITH KNOWLEDGE. LUV U KID'S.
I agree. Alex was a terrific mechanic.
@@KeepYourDaydream How do I reserve Alex? Dude was very polite and WOW did he know his stuff. Impressive!!!!
We’ll be sure to let him know! He’s a keeper!!
@@Summit4x4Company I'm serious. I'd drive from our home in Oregon to your location to have a person like him work on my truck. You have a WINNER in that young man!
We couldn't agree more. He's a good one for sure and well worth the drive to get it done right! We'll be sure to pass along your kind words. @@tannerjim
Great to see you guys not only find good people to work with, you find smart ones. That tech knows his stuff, and your friend is great at translating tech to English. This is probably the most educational video on truck wear and tear maintenance in suspension, transmissions, and steering I have ever seen. Thank you for doing what you do (travel and present) but even more, let the experts educate everyone on WHY to do this stuff, not just telling you to do it. Excellent Work!
I think the real question is, for me, coming out of this video is: with Mark’s new mustache situation, when is the KYD Barbershop Quartet going on tour?
🎵 I'm looking for 4 more guys. Shave the goat and join us!
@@KeepYourDaydream been cuttin hair & shaving skulls for over 15 yrs boys 😎
It's becoming quite the handle.
@@KeepYourDaydream Heck yeah I'm in. I can sing too LOL! I actually like it, just for clarification!
@@craignelson-swiftyenzed7578 Keep yourself dapper!
Such a pleasure seeing people work and share info who are skilled experts in their field.
Great video Marc!! We're stoked you're happy with your upgrade and glad we checked those diffs ;) Looking forward to seeing you again. Safe travels!!
Thanks! I love that the trending comment is how nice it is to see talented people do their job well. That's what I loved seeing too. Until next time.
Well this is awesome. I live in the Prescott area. Thanks for the shop place to go!!!
Mark, I recommend a S&S Diesel replacement fuel pump or at least a disaster prevention kit! If that Bosh CP4 grenades it’s like a 11k fix.
Love the mustache and truck looks awesome! Safe travels, go summer 2024!!!
Start small...start now. ABSOLUTE GOLD.
Yup, that's what we did in 2021.. started with a not too expensive two berth ..and we just picked up our brand new bigger island bed caravan (travel trailer) last Friday!
What a privilege to see this maintenance on this vehicle. Love the Super Duty trucks!
Excellent video! Smart decision on the 2024. Looks like the folks at Summit know their stuff…..if you don’t have a good shop a trip there for major repairs might be worth it. Kudos to them for allowing you full access in the shop. Tells me they don’t mind video of their work…..they know what they are doing.
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What a great video detailing the front end work. Impressive shop! Thank you. Safe travels.
Love your advice to start where you are! Our first trailer cost $200 at a yard sale in 2004.. It was a 1988 Kit Companion. The floor was rotten and I spent six months renovating it while the baby slept and my hubby was at work. We put about $2k into it and used it for years, pulling with a 1984 Suburban my hubby found for $1800. Fast forward 20 years... we've raised three kids and been through a few trailers, includi g a few lean years returning to the brave new world of car camping. Currently in the empty nester "couples trailer" stage and towing with our 2012 Tundra. It feels luxurious compared to our first setup!
Thanks for all your inspo along the way.
Nice job. I'm reminded that things depreciate overtime while experiences appreciate.
Very good way to put it. Typing this as I sit in out popup with 7 of us (5 kids) plus a dog. Pulled the popup over 50,000 miles now. Crazy and challenging at times but the memories are what matters.
Thankyou Mark! This opened my eyes to what kind of maintenance is truly necessary!
Great episode. Thanks for all the great info. Safe travels.
I LOVE that you have a truck video this week. I have been watching your videos since the first season, and it's you who inspired me to buy an RV in the first place. Then like a bug in my brain, I had watched one of your previous videos where you talked about how much better a 3/4 ton truck tows, and it just so happened that yesterday I traded my Ram 1500 in and bought a new Ram 2500. Then about an hour before you published this video, I was re-watching your previous truck videos. I feel like the stars have aligned :D
As always; very informative!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
Thanks for this video. This is quality reliable content. You guys being willing to shared your experience at this level detail is so appreciated. Thank you so much.
Fun video to watch! I am always interested in how mechanical things work. Love your travel vlogs, but these types of vlogs ever so often, are fun to watch and learn from!
Thank you, my Bff has a F-250 and just today we were discussing the front end of his Truck. Sharing this with him for sure. 😍
Happy Sunday fu day KYD FAMILY!! Love this video! I love the breakdowns and how y’all go into the details. Safe travels my favorite YT channel!!
Just bought a F-350 7.3l gas in anticipation of getting an RV in 1-2 years. In the last 6 months, I’ve loved it. Thanks for posting this video.
Same Same; purchasing an RV in the next few years... Just bought a F350 SuperCab Short Box Lariat HO Diesel , WOW... 4,314 lbs. Payload
Outstanding video, Marc. Summit will be on my west coat bucket list for sure, and kudos to the owner for letting you video the tech in such detail. The guy knows his stuff, it is quite refreshing!
Finally! The episode I've been waiting weeks for!
Outstanding video! I may have to watch this one multiple times.
I’ve been watching the CarEdge guys for years. Nice to be in good company. Invaluable insights into the automotive sales industry. I will be looking for a new vehicle soon, so I used your code and saved a little money while I search as well. Great video too!
Great video. Preventative maintenance always pays for itself. Summit 4x4 continues to give outstanding sales and service to the local 4x4 community and my favorite TH-camrs!
🙌 We appreciate you!
Another great video. Thanks for the excellent content. 1 year ago, we were on our way to Arizona from Florida when we experienced the death wobble. Remembering your experience, we found that episode & scheduled an appointment with Summit in Prescott. We were very pleased with our experience with Summit 4x4. We’re happy with the way our 2017 F250 handles our Lance trailer through the mountains.
So happy the fix is still holding strong!!
Great video as always y’all! We drive a 2017 F250 so it’s great to see you share the history of maintenance and upgrades of your truck. Thank you!
Just found your channel. I've got 135,000 on my 2017 F350 DRW diesel. Still has the original shocks, brakes and rear pads. Just spent $4k to fix the 4x4 since the interior switch wasn't engaging the front hubs. It's my daily driver. 86 miles a day. Love it and it still looks and drives like new.
Welcome. Lots of truck content if you search KYD Truck Mods. More repairs and updates to come this year.
Very nicely done. You give just enough details but I have to tell you, I love listening to professionals talk, That young man helping you is spot on and a true professional. Not only does he know how to install, he easily explains how the components work and what the effect if when the parts wear out. He is very impressive. I want that shop to work on my truck. I had our local shop change all my fluids but they stripped two bolt holes that showed signs of galling on the bolt. I am confident from all the air guns I heard within that shop, the mechanic used and air gun to try to take out the pan bolts on my transmission. The mechanics working on your truck show signs of true professionals. PS, I want to add a dual stabilizer to my 2004 F350 since I hope to get another 100,000 miles to the already 230,000 miles. The truck runs great and we just had the entire front end changed out. Great episode.
Excellent video. I have a 2016 F350 dually with almost 68K miles. I'm behind on my maintenance and this video is motivating me to get the maintenance done ASAP.
Mark, excellent video, probably one of your best. Very informative for any Super Duty owner. Keep up the good work. That "milk" that came out of the differential was unbelievable. You dodged a bullet on that one. Congrats on finding an incredible repair shop. If I were in the area, I would certainly have them do the work on my truck.
Summit did a great job and also very informative. Nice clean organized shop. Professional Folks.
Wow I love you sharing all this!!!!!
I'm so glad i watched this vid. i never thought about changing my frontend and rear-end oils at all. my f-250 diesel has 117000 miles on it now. gonna take it in to get both changed this week, and now thinking about getting my steering upgraded thanks to you. you awesome.
This is one of my favorites. Love seeing experts enjoy their work. Almost makes me want to compose a list of stuff wanted/needed on my Ram 3500 and make the 1800 mile journey.
The truck episodes are some of my favorite. This one is the best! I’ve watched it 3 times already, so much information.
Great video Marc. My 2013 F350 with 78k is overdue shocks and front end inspection. This is a good time to mention to make sure that the front axle half shafts are getting greased when serviced. These seem to get overlooked often creating an easily avoidable significant expense. Looking forward to a possible CP4 to DCR pump conversion episode. Safe travels!
Thanks Mark
Great information as usual.
Nice humble approach sir.
Good on you.
As a 2021 F250 Owner. I LOVED this video
Now, I am going to remove the cream cheese out of my front diff, and add the dual stabilizers.
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Thanks for this video. Got me thinking about what I need to research on my vehicle.
It's good to see people that enjoy their jobs. That is an amazing shop. The feathering on tires on both the inside and outside are from lack of rotation, you need to rotate at leat every 6000 miles. Great video looking forward to this season.
I agree on that.
Very informative! Great presentation… Thank you!
Always enjoy your videos and info you provide, for the DIYers like myself, I think its important to note, to always make sure you can unscrew the refill bolt on a diff cover first, because if you take the cover off, drain the oil out and can’t get that bolt loose, you will scrambling to get a new cover, which may or may not be readily available, and since you can’t put oil in the diff you can’t drive the truck.
Fabulous, honest, knowledgeable mechanics! Loved the education in this video for me, a woman who generally travels alone. I just had issues on the road recently (rear diff/transaxle) and relied on mechanics to check and then tell me I was safe to drive straight home. (They were right.) Rear end now being rebuilt by my mechanic. But I tuck away these type of names for the future -- you never know when it will be needed. I don't own or drive a truck but this was great info to have should I move that direction. TY!
Thank you for being so open and honest!!
I also watch Car Edge, and I've learned soooooo much from them!! I would imagine that they will be getting a whole lot more visitors to their channel / site after this video!!❤
I also think they make really great content. And they're absolutely right to focus on "days supply" of vehicles as a way of judging the health of the market and the realism of the prices being asked. It's a shame the information isn't more publicly available but it's great they have an inexpensive way to view it.
Summit does great work! Your “paying attention” comment is SO VERY TRUE! I really enjoyed watching this one. Thanks for doing it!
Love Caredge! I just found them myself and they will be instrumental in my buying a new Gladiator. Holding, . . .holding, . . . holding. Prices on everything are out of control, as you say. The bubble is bursting. Thank you for going through the sensible reasons why you passed on the 2024.
This was very helpful and gained much more understanding of all these parts that they’re putting on. Thanks for doing this. I will keep this.
Great video, impressive shop!
Great video. I’ve been watching the CarEdge team, on and off, since they started. They offer a ton of information and if you are looking for a vehicle, the subscription is absolutely worth it.
We're headed west soon, so I'm reluctantly encouraging Vinnie to watch this video. So satisfying with all the shop talk ~ Wanda (& Vinnie)
Come check out the shop! We’d love to give you the grand tour on your way through!
On our second Superduty…great truck. I upgraded from 2018 250 to 2022 350 DRW to upgrade campers so we could do a big toy hauler. We actually downsized from toy hauler back to small fifth wheel recently. We could downsize back to f250, but we would likely take a beating on that deal, so we are sticking with the F350. I agree that the F250 is much more nimble than the F350 dually.
Also glad there was no damage to the differential…when I saw the chocolate milk my first thought was that’s not good. It’s good that they checked!
I also echo the comments on the young mechanic. It’s refreshing to see talented young people going into these very much needed fields. It requires much knowledge and skill to work on vehicles.
Great video and great wisdom on the true cost of truck ownership. I have a 2023 F250 Tremor with the 7.3 and love it. The DEF use on the 23 and newer powerstrokes is apparently much greater than previous years. When you do decide to upgrade I would take a hard look at the 7.3. I pull an 11k lb 38ft travel trailer and have been very impressed. Getting 8-9mpg towing makes the diesel really hard to justify when most are only getting around 11 towing similar weights. The 7.3 with 4.30 gears pulls exceptionally well.
Great content! Thank you!
Great Video Marc ~ appreciate the knowledge ~ I missed Trish & Charlie though. See you next week.
Great insights & reflection mechanically what keeps your favorite truck in stabilizing exceptional driving conditions of all 'wear/tear' on the road, Mark. Informative informing ......
I LOVE Caredge!! Great resource.
Love the helpful information on the Super Duties and maintenance going forward with F-250. We're currently on the market for a Super Duty as well (F-350 drw/King Ranch). Love yall 3000!
I love listening to people who know what they are talking about. As a person who is not mechanically inclined, I can appreciate their explanations, by what they showed was normal, not normal and the "why's" of each thing. This is very helpful and gives me confidence to understand a mechanic a bit more. I would drive to this shop if I had a chance. Hard to find honest, hard-working people these days. Thanks for sharing this with us.
My wife was less than interested in this episode, but in my opinion, this is the BEST GUY video you have ever posted! Bravo!
There will be plenty for your wife in the upcoming episodes! Appreciate your feedback.
Well done. Thanks for the information
Absolutely agree with your decision about the financial aspect. I have 2018 with only 32k mileage. I appreciate the honesty when it comes to truck issues and solutions. Thank you and Summit
It looks like Summitt is THE PLACE to go for excellent work on your vehicle!!
Dang! This thing reads like a crystal ball! TY Marc and Tricia for all you to to share wisdom to the community (F350, 25RBQ)
Damn, I Am Impressed with this Summit shop!
I have a 2022 F350 Tremor and I have to admit I really love this truck. A guy asked me "what do you pull with that?" I told him, "whatever I want." Love the super duty.
There is a youtuber who had a ford f350 tremor but because of the tremor package, it's not on par to tow their Alliance 5th wheel so they run to the Ram dealership and got a Ram cummins to be able to pull their heavy 5th wheel legally and safely.
@@j.l.salayao8055 the rest of the story is they changed from a travel trailer to the 5th wheel and found they were overweight. It pulled fine, but they were overweight. They wanted a ford 450, but had communication issues with the ford dealer. They settled for the ram.
Impressive shop! Good to see and hear explanations from someone who knows what they are doing.
Happy Sunday everyone
This was one of your best truck shows…….learned a lot from this……thank you.
You did a great job of explaining things, most of the stuff was 😮. Trish at the Container Store picking items for all your stuff. Safe travels 🤠
old trucks well looked after are the best trucks..... another great video. and as always safe travels.
I have a 2019 Powerstroke myself and I absolutely love it! That shop is a class act, you don't find nearly as many like that as you used to.
Mark: Excellent video! Thanks
This is a great video! I will admit I'm a car/truck nerd, but this video is just very informative. Thanks for sharing.
Loved the maintenance video!
Another great video! great information, and reminders and importance of maintenance for all that tow (and that don't). On a side note, the Toyo ATIII tires are up there with the mileage of the Michelin tires and also for an AT tires have surprisingly low road noise. Will see next week! Safe travels
You definitely have one of the gem SuperDutys. The pre 2020 trucks with the 6 speed are really solid. Ford is having a very hard time with a ton of quality issues, so you absolutely made the right choice.
Im not going to lie, though.The 2024 Platnium with the Carmel interior is absolutely gorgeous.
I prefer the 6 speed also. It's essentially the same as the 5r110 that was designed for and introduced with the 6.0 powerstroke in '03. IMHO a great platform overall, with correct maintenance and updates for the engine of course.
See where that vent hose runs to. If it goes into the wheel well area , move it to the inboard frame area out of water.
Great Video! We have a 2017 version of the same truck you have, even down to the color. I've had it at the dealership 2 times for the death wobble and each time they just replace the crappy Rancho steering stabilizer. The is a diesel shop near my house that does suspension and I'm going to take it there to get checked out. I've been looking at the same steering stabilizer that you just put on and will get that done in addition to replacing any worn out components. We only have 52K miles on it, but the bulk of that is towing 5th wheel RV's.
So what was Mark thinking when Ford called and said the truck was ready? "hmmm, New truck, or pay for a wedding, what to do? hmmmm" 😊
I love the Car Edge TH-cam channel. Great information
You would love the steering on a 24 super duty with lane keep assist. Night and day difference
Years ago, I had service guys tell me I was wasting money with overkill on service. At every oil change, I changed the fuel filter and alternated changing (trans filter and transfer case oil) (front and rear diffs). But a 1999 Dodge 2500 5.9 cummins that towed approx 75% of it's life with much of that towing a 24' GN horse trailer. Then a 2005 Dodge 3500 dually HO 5.9 cummins towing a 42' living quarters 4 horse trailer all over the NC, TN & VA mountains. No drivetrain issues out of either truck. I traded both running and towing great, the 1999 had 251K miles and the 2005 had 207k miles when I traded.
Great video! I went from a 2016 2wd dc tundra to a F350 Lariat 4x4. The 350 rides like brick steel wheels but we both love that truck.
I was in your exact same boat ordered a new f350 tremor took forever to get built. Have a 2019 f350 king ranch. And decided to just keep it just did pretty much all the same maintenance definitely made it feel like a new driving truck again. Glad I decided to keep like you did.
Yes, I should have mentioned that we both missed our window in selling our trucks to make upgrading a cost effective decision. Mostly due to how long it took Ford to make the '23 which turned into the '24.
Very informative. The people at Summit look like a first class group. I may need to take drive up the hill before this years miles.
Great video! I enjoyed the total cost of ownership breakdown. I kept my last truck for 19 years and 362k miles. I expect to keep my current ‘21 F-150 Platinum FX4 Powerboost for 20 as well.
You mentioned that your Airstreams have had low costs as well. I would like a video breaking down those costs as well.
Safe travels!
Great video, lots to think about for my Ram. Loving the ‘stache too!
Great video. Very interesting!
Great honest video. Well done
Have a safe trip.❤