Johnny Sack was one of the most fascinating characters on this show. Clever, manipulative, sadistic,self-destructive and warm hearted. Also one of the best dressed.
@Zachary Jacobson Johnny Sack was an old school Cosa Nostra mobster, and in the old days, if you would have really publicly joked about the weight of the morbidly obese wife of an underboss, especially an underboss of a Five Families' family, you would have ended up buried in a concrete pillar in a matter of days.
@@attiliooilitta he reminds me on the genovese family how he played around with paulie ralphie even Tony very manipulative he could easily fuck Tony whenever he wanted
None of them did, they never considered people outside their thing as equals. Only Tony ever cared about what happened to Tracee, but that's because he was a bit of a self righteous hypocrite who thought he was above them albeit with a small ounce of humanity. The other mobsters only got angry at Ralph for turning down Tony's drink.
Yeah but in their morality and code her raising her hands to him is a death sentence alone , she woulda been whacked either way if it was the 40s-60s maybe even later but for sure in that period especially as she wasn't connected
@@driplerthadripper That's why the audience rallied behind Tony. Not because Tony was right under his own rules, but because under that little ounce of humanity he shows his family and animals extended to the victim of a horrific murder, despite the obvious hypocrisy like how Tony would murder jackie jr or matt bevilaqua (arguably both more deserving of death) it never bothered Tony, yet he looked down on his own guys for doing the same. HIs hypocrisy with how Ralphie went too far is something he ended up pointing out before he died, Tony wanted to be the hero, but that's because his ego needed that to cope with his self-loathing.
I like how Johnny makes Ralph think that Carmine has no idea about Ralph so that he doesn't go directly to Carmine for anything. We found out later that Carmine recognized Ralph for the powerful earner that he was. He effectively made himself the shoulder to cry on for all the disgruntled members of Tony's captains/higher ups. He put himself in a position to know about all the internal issues with the NJ family.
How Johnny uses people of course. The Irony of it is he got Paulie under this thumb by telling him Carmine was impressed by him. While he's wrangling Ralph here because he sees Johnny as his only way to escape the Soprano crew, but he doesn't know that he might've had substantial pull with Carmine if he had talked to him directly.
Not only a shoulder to cry on, but also making guys like Ralph and Paulie feel indebted to him. Goes a long way in a world built on relationships and conspiracies.
That’s crazy because I literally just watched the clip where they had the sit down about Ralph for what he said about Ginny. Carmine said Ralph is not getting clipped because he’s a good earner. Carmine did recognize Ralph but Johnny was being smart in making it seem as if carmine doesn’t know him. Good observation
same with the way he tells tony that capo was ralphs idea & that he "threw cold water on it" then he tells ralph "he's delighted you wanna see him" after tony says "I dont wanna talk about this with anyone again" 😭😭😭 "he indicated he's very open to talking." 😂
Johnny Sack is devoted to his wife and loves her unconditionally, but is apathetic about Ralph beating an innocent young woman to death. Tony cheats on his wife without giving her honor a moment's thought, but is willing to take personal damage to stand by his anger towards the wrong done to that girl. Interesting difference in moral formula for both these guys.
It goes a bit deeper than that because Johnny never even met the stripper whereas Tony was giving her advice from time to time and he felt she was looking up to him like a child looks up to a parent. Tony has a thing for living beings who cannot defend themselves. Johnny on the other hand just saw her as a random stripper. Hence the different reactions. Obviously how they treat their wives, that's a different thing to me.
It’s scary how Tony is the only one who seems to care about what happened to Tracey and that’s because she reminded him of meadow. It shows how cold blooded these guys are. I wonder how they sleep at night. True sociopaths .
Remember Dr Melfi reading the studying on treating sociopaths. Sociopaths show what humanity they do have in children and animals. So that's natural to them just as natural as their bad actions.
Notice how Johnny says "there are millions of dollars at stake" when trying to get Tony to ease up about Ralph. Then Carmine says the same exact thing to Johnny in season 4 to get him ease up on Ralph and he hates it so much hahahaha my god this show is a masterpiece.
The New York guys value business and money above everything. That's why they betray Phil in the end, his war against NJ is bad for business, and that's why even IF Tony dies in the ending, it wouldn't be NY since they would have no real leader in NJ to do business with, therefore they would lose a lot of money over killing one guy.
H. S Read about Angelo Bruno's case. After Carlo Gambino passed away, The Chin ordered Angelo Bruno's murder to take over his rackets in Atlantic-city. That's the way they work. Btw, Johnny tells Ralph that the all Sopranos, Johnny Boy, Junior and Tony are difficult people to work with. And remember what Butch said? Hit the top 3: Tony S, Sil and Bobby B. And do the business with what's left - Paulie. A puppet kind. Give him a tittle and share profits and he will do anything you say to do.
I love it when Tony starts quoting Sun Tzu. Melfi's suggestion was meant in jest but she inadvertently just made him more strategic in his malevolence.
@@robertchflynn To truly love someone unconditionally regardless of their size, whilst being one of the best mobsters...thats a strength. But his emotional attachment to what the arseholes like Ralph said about her, that was where he let his usual sharp self down. Who care if people thought she wasnt attractive...he loved her....was all that mattered.
I don't know but I always loved The Smoking Scenes on Mad Men. From The Pilot Episode to The Meetings, To Happy Hour there was also a Sophistication about it. Also, there was a Scene on The UK Soap Opera EastEnders where Karen Taylor sends Tiffany Butcher and her Sister Whitney Dean to Jail for drug dealing. When she sees them going off to the Police Station she flicks her Cigarette away. Also remember how Doughboy & Ricky's Mother flicked The Cigarette when he got sent to Juvenile Hall for stealing in Boy In The Hood.
Because that would put Johnny's life in danger just hearing about it and Ralph then doing it. Especially if Ralph was dumb enough to do it - and tried to use Johnny as a shield. Taking down a boss without the okay from Carmine, would have been a death sentence for both of them.
“If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him” is a quote from the Art of War, which Dr Melfi sarcastically suggested Tony should read if he wanted to be a better gang leader in season 2. David Chase made it clear that Tony was being helped become a better criminal by Dr Melfi throughout the show. Brilliant, brilliant writing.
He was definitely changing during the show. He became more narcissistic, if you notice how every time he had a conversation with anybody he can’t wait to tell you his problems and makes you listen but once he’s done and somebody else starts telling tony about there problems he just brushes them off and says something like “we all got problems” ...tony is a lunatic haha
Made it clear? Melfi's Italian colleague is absolutely specific and to the point that speech therapy does not help sociopaths and actually "help them to become better criminals". It is not implied. It is stated.
johnny sack so smart, he used to tell Paulie Carmine thought highly of him because he knew thats what he wanted to hear, but to tell Ralph Carmine doesnt even know he is, he uses the Boss name to work on people
Not only that, we know that Carmine wants Ralph in the business. What Johnny Sack did here was put Ralp in debt to NY, have control over the shared projects and get Tony to not even suspecting the whole manipulation (He told Tony that Ralph wanted to compromise, told Ralph Tony wants want too and suddenly both want to compromise on the terms that fit Johnny). It shows that the smart mobsters do read "The Prince" and learn.
Carmine throws cold water on John's request to sanction a hit on Ralph one year later. Carmine knows who he is when there's millions of dollars at stake!
I love how Carmine doesn’t know who Ralph is even though he makes millions of dollars yet Johnny tricks paully into thinking that he thinks the world of him
Carmine knows who Ralph is but johnny sac doesnt want him to know that. Probably doesnt want someone earning good money hanging around his family either
I love how Sack does the opposite of what he did with Paulie, he makes sure Ralphie thinks Carmine doesn't know who he is, in reality, Carmine appreciates Ralph very much.
@TheWoodIsPoo remember when Sack wants Ralphie dead? Carmine says he brings millions of dollars to their family as well as Jersey, so he is against it, not simply because he has the esplanade, but he does exceptionally well in this racket despite not being a capo.
@117997470810554740986 Agree about Gerry and Ralphie (especially when he's wearing his suits with ascots) but about Silvio, I'm not, too flashy in my opinion. Johnny Sack costumes were always sober.
Anyone that knows this show knows how hard Ralphie was holding back a joke or smart ass comment when Johnny said it takes a toll on the joints. I'm rolling just thinking about what he wanted to say.
No actually the real mob was like this, some families like under Carlos Gambino and Thomas Lucheess it was no nonsense run like a corporate 500 companies, while others was like a goddamn bloody sitcom. A la Soprano s
Shagrat65 lol how many did have Johnny sact as a confidant and none of them ever reached Carmine’s radius lol Paulie Ralph lol 😂 Johnny was a smooth talking fuck who truly did and said things just to further his goals not a fuck about loyalty truly a chessmaster
@jessesam Funny, it proves how Sac was such a manipulative scumbag. He told Ralph that Carmine doesn't know who he is but he does & told Paulie Carmine knew who he was but he didn't. This is also why he moved to New Jersey and than told Tony he isn't interested in sticking his beak into his business but he did.
I find it telling, that he would rather sit outside in the cold listening to a football game on the radio, than be inside watching it on a big screen TV...just so he can smoke.
"You know, I don't want to talk about that situation ever again...with anybody. You understand me?" I love that line and the the way Tony delivered it. His tone, intonation, pure gagster. And there is always the "You understand me?" rhetorical question to add more emphasis to it.
There's a scene in like S3 or S4 that ends with just a shot of Johnny smoking a cigarette, and then we hear funeral bells over top to start the next scene.
Eh they weren't really negotiations, both parties just needed to blow off steam and throw each other an obvious bone (apology + forgiveness). Johnny Sack talked them out of stupid impulsive threats (clipping each other) and mediated in order to ensure his family's interest while maintaining influence in Soprano family affairs.
@@colorcombinations7387honestly he probably did more good for Tony's organization than Tony himself. If it wasn't for sac, they'd both kill each other. He really prevented some internal fractures.
Johnny Sack was the most intelligent gangster in the series. He played others more than anyone. And yet the one who worked for his family more than anyone. Truly an interesting character
nope, Carmine was. He didnt care about any of that personal bullshit as long as it brought money, which is the reason these gangsters exist: to bring money
Johnny *was* prior to the Ginny stuff. After that his character did a huge 180 and started making rash judgements based on personal grudges which was completely out of character IMO and one of the few times I thought The Sopranos writing was iffy. Like the other commenter said, Carmine Sr. was truly the best mobster in the show. Smart, tactical, and kept any personal feelings completely out of it. For him and only him it truly was just business.
Sacks is mostly portrayed as being frustrated with Carmine senior and being on the verge of whacking his boss. Sacks is very clever and can scope out opportunities. But he has severe temperament issues and if angered on issues of prestige can fall into spirals of unnecessary self destruction.
Ralph: Literally kills a woman for no reason Johnny: There are millions of dollars at stake, Tony Ralph: Makes a fat joke about Ginny Johnny: Again with the money! Have we no honor!
LOVE the way Johnny Sack plays Tony and Ralph against each other. "I talked to him. He's delighted you want to see him. He's very open to working something out." I cringed and laughed simultaneously when I heard those lines.
This extends to season 4 even. He tells Ralph that Carmine has no idea who he is (which is a lie, they share construction and he oversees millions) and later tells Paulie that Carmine asks about him despite really not knowing who HE is. Tony and Johnny Sack had the best instincts.
@@ionthegravity2 Lil Carmine was a threat too he was behind Joey Peeps death which is like saying FU to Johnny Sack.Both Sr and Jr prefer money and peace over violence but both were always a threat.
this show is a great example of how life is. nobody says what they truly mean and quite frankly these unwritten rules of how society is and how we should behave is pretty sad to me. we have the ability to communicate but we cannot speak our minds in most cases
I have found that speaking your mind does no good anyway, most people are mindless robots and will just stare at you like an idiot if you talk to them with any kind of knowledge or insight.
Truth is, there are no rules. Never have been. So why put so much stock in it? Every manmade institution is just that-manmade. In the real physical world, a $500 bill is worth almost nothing compared to a bologna sandwich. We should all start standing up for what we really believe. The pain and embarrassment would be temporary, the positive change in the world would be permanent. Now go home and get your fuckin shinebox.
We can't speak our minds cause we are all different... so we all have different minds that don't see alike... so we have to find something that we can agree on... which aint much...
He might have thought that gangsters who kill people all the time, sometimes for purely personal reasons, wouldn't mind him doing the same to someone who was dead the moment she hit someone as connected as Ralph.
To think that Jonnny Sack saves Ralphs life from Tony and some blunt instuments only to have Ralph later insult his wife with a fat joke in front of a lot of wise guys.
Dangerfinder treasureseeker That's a big part of why Johnny was so offended. For Ralph to have so little respect after Johnny interceded on his behalf.
The writing for the show was at such an incredibly high level. Even though these are a bunch of criminals, there is still so much to relate to. When frustrations are high, and people have private conversations, and then relay the conversations to other affected parties, it is so very human that humans shade the descriptions of what was said to further their own purposes. Brilliant writing.
Love how careful Johnny Sack was smoking with his ashtray when he is sitting on his fake lawn, but as soon as he gets up and walks into the natural grass, he throws his cig butt like he doesn't give a crap.
1:23 "New York and the Sopranos have long-standing ties, and that's not gonna change, not for you or anybody else." ... It certainly changed for Philly "I compromised" Leotardo.
Ralph- He’s not leaving me with a whole lot of options here John- Don’t talk crazy! If you want to commit suicide pills are a lot easier!! That response is everything !
Johnny plays both sides like a French violinist. Smooth and graceful never nervous and so sure of his movements. A true art form to manipulate a situation like that
Johhny sack sat in his garden with a wireless chilling to the baseball seems real wholesome. We all know he has a painful fate coming his way so it makes these small simple pleasure seem even more important
Isabel Beckerman -- Yes, he did indeed quit smoking actually while he was still on the show. For the most part, these were real cigarettes but near the end of his time on the Sopranos, he managed to quit smoking and from then on they used fake cigarettes for his character.
I absolutely love how this entire orchestration by Sack was juxtaposed together, talking to Tony, then immediately the next shot talking to Ralph, and so on and so on. Also his most inspirational line of the show: "...But she was a whore, Tony".
Too much of a temper though. Carmine wanted to run a professional operation, without emotions getting in the way. John's reaction to the fat joke thing could have caused a war between the families, if Carmine hadn't stepped in.
Some of the best actors come late to the stage. Curatola managed this character like an old master. He played it exactly the way he auditioned it - quietly, but with an often terrifying, sinister ferocity. “We’re done here.”
Remember Tony in Little Italy after the guys said the thing to his daughter.... teeth all over the floor. Filmed @ John's on 12th Street, The Village NYC.
Ralph has absolutely no idea how lucky he is that he caught Johnny in a benevolent mood - and the fact that Johnny's actually trying to save his life here completely goes over his head. Typical Ralph blaming his f-ups on anything but himself, so never taking responsibility. Maybe the big earner, but a real loose cannon which led to his demise.
Ralph makes a shit ton of money and goes to johnny for everything. It was easily worth it to keep a capable guy alive who gives you all the news of whats going on in Jersey.
@@wowthatsawesome2762 Exactly, Tony wanted to prevent Ralph from getting to close to New York. It was one of the initial reasons he denied Ralph for captain and put in Gigi
Johnny Sack was one of the most fascinating characters on this show. Clever, manipulative, sadistic,self-destructive and warm hearted. Also one of the best dressed.
...yet he FLIPPED...
@Zachary Jacobson ...you should remember that John was "Old School". In the old days guys were really "whacked" for such comments!#fact. ...
@Zachary Jacobson Johnny Sack was an old school Cosa Nostra mobster, and in the old days, if you would have really publicly joked about the weight of the morbidly obese wife of an underboss, especially an underboss of a Five Families' family, you would have ended up buried in a concrete pillar in a matter of days.
@@attiliooilitta he reminds me on the genovese family how he played around with paulie ralphie even Tony very manipulative he could easily fuck Tony whenever he wanted
@@kirklandsewell6653 he didnt flip. Why does everybody say he flipped? He only plead guilty
I could hear Ralphie say "hooer" a million times and it would still crack me up.
Agreed.
He brought up a great point..which Johnny had to bring up again to Tony 🤣
hoowah
hoer mean whore in dutch
That’s literally how we say it here in Brooklyn
Sacks: “Carmine doesn’t know who you are”
You’re right, he only asks about Paulie.
and Paulie's dead father, whatever happened there
@@beachmasterX Was he run over by a trolley? LOL
@@DCFelix67 a trolley full of flag salutin Americans
Carmine knew about Ralph but didn't know Paulie
HAHAHAHAHAH
Crazy how Ralph just doesn't understand why beating an innocent girl to death was a problem
None of them did, they never considered people outside their thing as equals. Only Tony ever cared about what happened to Tracee, but that's because he was a bit of a self righteous hypocrite who thought he was above them albeit with a small ounce of humanity. The other mobsters only got angry at Ralph for turning down Tony's drink.
cuz she wuz a hoooowah!
1:35
Yeah but in their morality and code her raising her hands to him is a death sentence alone , she woulda been whacked either way if it was the 40s-60s maybe even later but for sure in that period especially as she wasn't connected
@@driplerthadripper
That's why the audience rallied behind Tony. Not because Tony was right under his own rules, but because under that little ounce of humanity he shows his family and animals extended to the victim of a horrific murder, despite the obvious hypocrisy like how Tony would murder jackie jr or matt bevilaqua (arguably both more deserving of death) it never bothered Tony, yet he looked down on his own guys for doing the same. HIs hypocrisy with how Ralphie went too far is something he ended up pointing out before he died, Tony wanted to be the hero, but that's because his ego needed that to cope with his self-loathing.
I like how Johnny makes Ralph think that Carmine has no idea about Ralph so that he doesn't go directly to Carmine for anything. We found out later that Carmine recognized Ralph for the powerful earner that he was. He effectively made himself the shoulder to cry on for all the disgruntled members of Tony's captains/higher ups. He put himself in a position to know about all the internal issues with the NJ family.
How Johnny uses people of course. The Irony of it is he got Paulie under this thumb by telling him Carmine was impressed by him. While he's wrangling Ralph here because he sees Johnny as his only way to escape the Soprano crew, but he doesn't know that he might've had substantial pull with Carmine if he had talked to him directly.
Good Observation!
Not only a shoulder to cry on, but also making guys like Ralph and Paulie feel indebted to him. Goes a long way in a world built on relationships and conspiracies.
That’s crazy because I literally just watched the clip where they had the sit down about Ralph for what he said about Ginny. Carmine said Ralph is not getting clipped because he’s a good earner. Carmine did recognize Ralph but Johnny was being smart in making it seem as if carmine doesn’t know him. Good observation
same with the way he tells tony that capo was ralphs idea & that he "threw cold water on it" then he tells ralph "he's delighted you wanna see him" after tony says "I dont wanna talk about this with anyone again" 😭😭😭 "he indicated he's very open to talking." 😂
Johnny Sack is devoted to his wife and loves her unconditionally, but is apathetic about Ralph beating an innocent young woman to death. Tony cheats on his wife without giving her honor a moment's thought, but is willing to take personal damage to stand by his anger towards the wrong done to that girl. Interesting difference in moral formula for both these guys.
It goes a bit deeper than that because Johnny never even met the stripper whereas Tony was giving her advice from time to time and he felt she was looking up to him like a child looks up to a parent. Tony has a thing for living beings who cannot defend themselves. Johnny on the other hand just saw her as a random stripper. Hence the different reactions. Obviously how they treat their wives, that's a different thing to me.
Her honour vs being beaten to death? It’s a different league, hell it’s not even the same sport
I think Tony saw Meadow in that girl, that's why he empathized with her.
@@darth856 Yup.
@@chubbychaser00izu innocent woman? She treated her son like shit. She put cigarettes out on him. She is not fucking innocent.
Ralph looks like an older real life Chucky doll
LOL. His hairdo is hideous.
It's a wig
Yes indeed it is. But it looks awful.
He acted like him too...
Alex Mar I can see that now.
It’s scary how Tony is the only one who seems to care about what happened to Tracey and that’s because she reminded him of meadow. It shows how cold blooded these guys are. I wonder how they sleep at night. True sociopaths .
but she was a whoah..
Is it ralph's fault she's a klutz?
I think you answered your question about how they sleep at night. True sociopaths.
Remember Dr Melfi reading the studying on treating sociopaths. Sociopaths show what humanity they do have in children and animals. So that's natural to them just as natural as their bad actions.
@Pepi Roni th-cam.com/video/Cw3V6tWoQsw/w-d-xo.html
"Don't talk crazy! You wanna commit suicide, pills are a lot easier" fucking amazing line
*WHAT, EVERYBODY'S GOT A FUCKIN' OPINION???*
“You want to commit suicide? Tie your shoes and have a bite of braciole!”
And “A whoah”
He says sucking on a cigarette
Ralph slept with Ginny?
Notice how Johnny says "there are millions of dollars at stake" when trying to get Tony to ease up about Ralph. Then Carmine says the same exact thing to Johnny in season 4 to get him ease up on Ralph and he hates it so much hahahaha my god this show is a masterpiece.
The New York guys value business and money above everything. That's why they betray Phil in the end, his war against NJ is bad for business, and that's why even IF Tony dies in the ending, it wouldn't be NY since they would have no real leader in NJ to do business with, therefore they would lose a lot of money over killing one guy.
@@h.s6352 Absolutely. Plus Phil was a piece of shit. He even threatened Butch right at the end when he was on the phone with him.
H. S Read about Angelo Bruno's case. After Carlo Gambino passed away, The Chin ordered Angelo Bruno's murder to take over his rackets in Atlantic-city. That's the way they work. Btw, Johnny tells Ralph that the all Sopranos, Johnny Boy, Junior and Tony are difficult people to work with. And remember what Butch said? Hit the top 3: Tony S, Sil and Bobby B. And do the business with what's left -
Paulie. A puppet kind. Give him a tittle and share profits and he will do anything you say to do.
Underrated comment! I forgot about how John lost his shit when the tables were turned...."again, with the money"
Good catch
One minute Johnny is using an ash tray whilst sitting in a field, the next he is tossing his cigarette into the grass.... true psychopath.
He didn't want to get ash on that nice astro turf. He couldn't give a shit about the real grass lol
Lol I noticed that too
As much as the guys at Johnny's housewarming said he spent on landscaping, he's gonna make those guys earn it, lol.
nature got him back with the cancer.
I thought I was the only one who caught that lmao
I love it when Tony starts quoting Sun Tzu.
Melfi's suggestion was meant in jest but she inadvertently just made him more strategic in his malevolence.
Well that was kind of the point and why Melfi stopped seeing him at the end. Sociopaths use therapy to be better criminals.
You mean Santa Zu?
@@munenenganga2191 the chinese prince mah-chee-aveely
I love sun to zoo.
@@munenenganga2191 no he meaning Quisomodo
I think its kind of admirable how much johnny truly loved his wife
Yep,she was pretty.
A complete weakness on his part. He couldn't get over the fact that others regarded her as obese and to be honest, disgusting.
@@robertchflynn To truly love someone unconditionally regardless of their size, whilst being one of the best mobsters...thats a strength. But his emotional attachment to what the arseholes like Ralph said about her, that was where he let his usual sharp self down. Who care if people thought she wasnt attractive...he loved her....was all that mattered.
He was the only one that actually loved his wife out of all of them that had wives
@@enlighteneddoggo5803 Moment of silence for all the women out there whose husbands got fat, bald and limp during marriage
"Capo's what he mentioned, I threw cold water on it right away." Such a sick line.
Played them both like violins
SpikeFlea Johnny always played both sides well. Played Paulie like a classical violinist.
Rusty Kuntz playing Pauline is pretty fuckin easy. Especially if you’re from New York with some power. Paulie is a complete moron
A great advisor and tactician, but a terrible boss
@@O.G.H. He was too emotional and sensitive, like Tony. Very bad traits for a boss.
The way Johnny sack smokes a cigarette is smooth af
The smoothest!! 😎
I don't know but I always loved The Smoking Scenes on Mad Men. From The Pilot Episode to The Meetings, To Happy Hour there was also a Sophistication about it. Also, there was a Scene on The UK Soap Opera EastEnders where Karen Taylor sends Tiffany Butcher and her Sister Whitney Dean to Jail for drug dealing. When she sees them going off to the Police Station she flicks her Cigarette away. Also remember how Doughboy & Ricky's Mother flicked The Cigarette when he got sent to Juvenile Hall for stealing in Boy In The Hood.
samath kem The man made lung cancer look sexy.
You're easily impressed
He's a smooth criminal
I love how visibly angry John got when Ralphie insinuated a hit on Tony lol. Like "get the fuck out of my face with that shit!".
Pills are a lot easier
Because that would put Johnny's life in danger just hearing about it and Ralph then doing it. Especially if Ralph was dumb enough to do it - and tried to use Johnny as a shield. Taking down a boss without the okay from Carmine, would have been a death sentence for both of them.
@@godfather4377 and that's assuming that Ralph would even be able to pull off killing Tony
'suicide would be quicker' is also letting him know hed tell Tony about it before it ever happened
Turn down a drink he wasnt thirsty!!
and ralph thanks him by making fun of ginny
Yeah that's interesting that later on in the show it's Ralph that Tonys trying to keep Johnny Sack from killing
No honor among well dressed greaseballs....
@@MrUser10001 esse e you
They're all low lives in the end.
It's all about the money he makes for them...
“If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him” is a quote from the Art of War, which Dr Melfi sarcastically suggested Tony should read if he wanted to be a better gang leader in season 2. David Chase made it clear that Tony was being helped become a better criminal by Dr Melfi throughout the show. Brilliant, brilliant writing.
“If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him” Sun Tzu
@@pd9971 Sun Tazoo?
He was definitely changing during the show. He became more narcissistic, if you notice how every time he had a conversation with anybody he can’t wait to tell you his problems and makes you listen but once he’s done and somebody else starts telling tony about there problems he just brushes them off and says something like “we all got problems” ...tony is a lunatic haha
Made it clear? Melfi's Italian colleague is absolutely specific and to the point that speech therapy does not help sociopaths and actually "help them to become better criminals". It is not implied. It is stated.
"Most guys I know read prince machiavelli."
johnny sack so smart, he used to tell Paulie Carmine thought highly of him because he knew thats what he wanted to hear, but to tell Ralph Carmine doesnt even know he is, he uses the Boss name to work on people
Johnny...? Talked to me about what?
Not only that, we know that Carmine wants Ralph in the business. What Johnny Sack did here was put Ralp in debt to NY, have control over the shared projects and get Tony to not even suspecting the whole manipulation (He told Tony that Ralph wanted to compromise, told Ralph Tony wants want too and suddenly both want to compromise on the terms that fit Johnny). It shows that the smart mobsters do read "The Prince" and learn.
Carmine throws cold water on John's request to sanction a hit on Ralph one year later. Carmine knows who he is when there's millions of dollars at stake!
Paulie was a real idiot.
I love how Carmine doesn’t know who Ralph is even though he makes millions of dollars yet Johnny tricks paully into thinking that he thinks the world of him
Carmine knows who Ralph is but johnny sac doesnt want him to know that. Probably doesnt want someone earning good money hanging around his family either
Don't forget Carmine protects Ralph from Johnny. He's definitely aware of who he is
Ma io io ho ho collezionati di un uomo e un altro paese europeo e non è che la tua foto di ieri a Milano il
At the point of this clip, the esplanade project wasn’t being done. So Ralph wasn’t making M’s for Carmine yet. Carmine didn’t know who was Ralph was
@@paramountprp8442 exactly .. iz when Ralph made that joke about Ginny is when Carmine knew him by den ..
I love how Sack does the opposite of what he did with Paulie, he makes sure Ralphie thinks Carmine doesn't know who he is, in reality, Carmine appreciates Ralph very much.
I didn’t catch that
@TheWoodIsPoo remember when Sack wants Ralphie dead? Carmine says he brings millions of dollars to their family as well as Jersey, so he is against it, not simply because he has the esplanade, but he does exceptionally well in this racket despite not being a capo.
he doesn't appeciate Ralph, Just the money
Johnny Sack was the best dressed gangster in The Sopranos.
Silvio and christopher knew how to dress
+lord geoffrey Still can't beat Johnny Sac. Even in his casuals.
He was the Alphonse Gangitano of the sopranos
+Le Monarchiste nah Jerry Torciano from the Lupertazzi mob was the best dressed. Silvio and Ralph had some good outfits too.
@117997470810554740986 Agree about Gerry and Ralphie (especially when he's wearing his suits with ascots) but about Silvio, I'm not, too flashy in my opinion. Johnny Sack costumes were always sober.
A: she was a huwa
B: she hit me
3 years to later
C. She wasn’t carrying his child lol
D: It was the coke
And that's why you were passed the fuck over...
E: She didn't appreciate Gladiator movies.
F. That horse was a fucking huwa!
Anyone that knows this show knows how hard Ralphie was holding back a joke or smart ass comment when Johnny said it takes a toll on the joints. I'm rolling just thinking about what he wanted to say.
Not to mention the toll it takes on the lawn and patio pavers.
I dont think making jokes was on Ralph's mind in this scene. He had way more serious things on his mind, like whether he was going to stay alive.
Bro same 😂
0:20 probably where he came up with that joke. Lol
Something about her having a 90 pound mole on her ass
Vincent Curatola's acting is superb in this series. Seriously.
Amen. I was upset when he died.
And it was his first acting job
Fuck who
@@MrBlick76 he didn't die lol
Yeah, Johnny Sack is definitely among the most strikingly realistic characters for me.
"Tonyyyyy, I'm sorryyyyyy." Johnny was hilarious.
Rick P it might save your life
Rick P 😄
He was wrong believe me he knows
She was a HUAAAH
David: "Tony I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm just havin some bad luck."
Tony" "Yeah? It just got worse!"
🖐🏻💥
The only reason Tony survived so long is that Richie, Ralph, and Shineboxotardo were never around at the same time.
Or Feech Lamanna. And even Furio wanted him dead at one point because he was in love with Carm.
They would have murdered each other also.
Convenient story writing, need a new plot line when others close, pull someone they never even talked about in previous seasons out of jail or miami
😂
@@conortong2243 they did talk about Ralphie in S2 if I remember correctly
All these mobsters are such drama queens, how they got anything done is amazing.
Always with the drama ;)
Well the show is a drama
@Fishing Again with the drama? JoM
"Always with the Sceanrio's".
No actually the real mob was like this, some families like under Carlos Gambino and Thomas Lucheess it was no nonsense run like a corporate 500 companies, while others was like a goddamn bloody sitcom. A la Soprano s
'Carmine doesn't know who you are!'
Sack was such a badass. Man I miss this show!
Shagrat65 lol how many did have Johnny sact as a confidant and none of them ever reached Carmine’s radius lol Paulie Ralph lol 😂 Johnny was a smooth talking fuck who truly did and said things just to further his goals not a fuck about loyalty truly a chessmaster
He said it without the exckamation point, which gave the line extra strength.
@jessesam Funny, it proves how Sac was such a manipulative scumbag. He told Ralph that Carmine doesn't know who he is but he does & told Paulie Carmine knew who he was but he didn't. This is also why he moved to New Jersey and than told Tony he isn't interested in sticking his beak into his business but he did.
@mcharleau admit it, the shinebox and varsity athlete jokes add depth as well.
Tells paulie... Carmine's thinking of yeahs,
She offered him turkey and he insults her in front of a group.
Was it turkey or turkey sandwiches?
@@meanmachine3453 she said they another turkey left
David Alan Coe?
"There was a lot of wine that night"
Now go home and get your treadmill!
Johnny sack the puppet master. Proper gangster
Definitely a great character. Great acting
The thing with his wife and pissing on one of Ralphs crew was not proper.
I’m like that now I play people off against each other and take everything for myself
“HE HIT ME” like a little kid to his father
"I know Tony can be difficult. His father was the same, his uncle, they always need someone to demonize" LOL
I'm so glad everything worked out in the end. I'm sure Tony and Ralph go on to have a healthy, prosperous friendship together
I hear they get involved with a racehorse together!
And they had Breakfast at Ralph's house!😂
@@ronnywindfall4163😂😂
I find it telling, that he would rather sit outside in the cold listening to a football game on the radio, than be inside watching it on a big screen TV...just so he can smoke.
That's weird considering they didn't ban smoking indoors at that time too.
@@Ensenoman8 Ginny sac wanted him to quit
@@djpalme11 Ah I see. Forgotten about that.
@@djpalme11 nicotine is an addictive substance!
@@yaboyreege7158 that's what it says on my pack of smokes
"You know, I don't want to talk about that situation ever again...with anybody. You understand me?" I love that line and the the way Tony delivered it. His tone, intonation, pure gagster. And there is always the "You understand me?" rhetorical question to add more emphasis to it.
Johnny Sack, the Great Manipulator.
deeply sinister character.
Wonder what he was actually after here.
"A little dysentery in the ranks"
He really is great. His intention is purely financial here and he plays it so well with both Ralph and Tony.
Played Em both like a deck of cards in Vegas baby !
Kill a girl then ask to be made a Capo....that makes sense smh
She was a Whooaaah
Tony brought it on himself when he smacked Ralph
He didn't ask for it though
A she hit him B she was a hooah
Ralph was still a shit regardless of that whooaa
Joe Pantoliano was brilliant in the Sopranos.
Damn Cypher.
@@pistolpete8231 lmao I loved him
@@Daniel-ke7jn He was one of the best characters.
In everything he does.
Richie, Ralphie, and Tony B were all kind of dark , Richie being the worst....he was old school crazy.
Johnny sac never had a single bad scene.
Watch him get arrested at his daughter's wedding.
@@donarthiazi2443 aye, when it comes to daw-derz all betssss are awfff
@@tombaron5607
Gotta go wit Phil on dis wun Tone
"You wanna commit suicide, pills are a lot easier" - spoken as he ashes his cigarette which would ultimately lead to his death
Ralph ultimately lost his life in bad boys 3
hey he quit when he went to the can
Kael Key No he didn't, lol.
kingssuck06 - Cypher died way before that in Matrix
There's a scene in like S3 or S4 that ends with just a shot of Johnny smoking a cigarette, and then we hear funeral bells over top to start the next scene.
It’s amazing that Johnny sack was able to essentially defuse this situation when both parties were totally far apart in terms of negotiations
Eh they weren't really negotiations, both parties just needed to blow off steam and throw each other an obvious bone (apology + forgiveness). Johnny Sack talked them out of stupid impulsive threats (clipping each other) and mediated in order to ensure his family's interest while maintaining influence in Soprano family affairs.
@@colorcombinations7387honestly he probably did more good for Tony's organization than Tony himself. If it wasn't for sac, they'd both kill each other. He really prevented some internal fractures.
The way Ralph says "whore" is damn near poetry
"Hewer"
Johnny Sack was the most intelligent gangster in the series. He played others more than anyone. And yet the one who worked for his family more than anyone. Truly an interesting character
nope, Carmine was. He didnt care about any of that personal bullshit as long as it brought money, which is the reason these gangsters exist: to bring money
Johnny *was* prior to the Ginny stuff. After that his character did a huge 180 and started making rash judgements based on personal grudges which was completely out of character IMO and one of the few times I thought The Sopranos writing was iffy.
Like the other commenter said, Carmine Sr. was truly the best mobster in the show. Smart, tactical, and kept any personal feelings completely out of it. For him and only him it truly was just business.
I felt like Johnny Sac was one of the most real portrayals of a true high ranking mobster in the show
@@JohnLutherable Carmine died of old age as a free man. John also died of natural causes but he did while wearing an orange jumpsuit.
Sacks is mostly portrayed as being frustrated with Carmine senior and being on the verge of whacking his boss. Sacks is very clever and can scope out opportunities. But he has severe temperament issues and if angered on issues of prestige can fall into spirals of unnecessary self destruction.
I love how even when he’s chilling in his backyard Johnny is dressed impeccably
There's so many Art of War quotes in this show, I love picking them up. "If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him". Totl Sun Tzu quote!
Jell melroy Yeah. Sun Tizu is like this Chinese Prince Machiavelli.
@TheRealist 811 That was Paulie, right before he got out of his car and hit that landscaper with a shovel lol
words to live by for trolls and pranksters everywhere
Only thing is just about everybody on the show is "of choleric temperament."
Dr Melfi turned on Tony to Sun Tzu
The most surprising thing about this scene is that shamu actually had leftover turkey.
Ralph: Literally kills a woman for no reason
Johnny: There are millions of dollars at stake, Tony
Ralph: Makes a fat joke about Ginny
Johnny: Again with the money! Have we no honor!
Excellent point lol! So much hypocrisy between them all it's crazy!
She was a hooowa, Ginni was the bosses wife. Not analogous in the context of the Mafia
The bend more rules than the Catholic church!!!
💯😅
NOBODY smoked a cigarette cooler than Johnny Sack
...PILLS are a LOT easier!
Except Jimmy in goodfellas
I smoke cool like that.
@@Band_Aid_Man_ Nobody cares about you xD
@@Riftheros But I love you. take care.
The way John looks at Ralph with total disgust...priceless
LOVE the way Johnny Sack plays Tony and Ralph against each other. "I talked to him. He's delighted you want to see him. He's very open to working something out." I cringed and laughed simultaneously when I heard those lines.
This extends to season 4 even. He tells Ralph that Carmine has no idea who he is (which is a lie, they share construction and he oversees millions) and later tells Paulie that Carmine asks about him despite really not knowing who HE is. Tony and Johnny Sack had the best instincts.
@@geordiejones5618 Yep. That's why they were bosses. I always considered Johnny to be the only real threat (non Fed) to Tony.
Fucking Sack moved to Jersey to stick his beak in.
@@ionthegravity2 Lil Carmine was a threat too he was behind Joey Peeps death which is like saying FU to Johnny Sack.Both Sr and Jr prefer money and peace over violence but both were always a threat.
well written scripts and actors who acted, means a lot these days.
Ah the irony of Ralph crying about people laughing behind his back yet he's laughing at the very guy he's asking for help because his wife got fat.
Was Ralph the only mobster who made Ginny jokes?
“She was a “Hoo-AAA” and she hit me” Ralph is a savage 😂
Man ralphie was crazy and scary sometimes but he was a funny character. I missed him after he was killed.
@@Tubemusic99 nah that's more like Paulie than Ralphie. Lol
@@castortroy7704 very true. paulie had that tendency.
Erk ... The worst & most disgusting for me
He was killed? thanks for ruining it for me.
Let me handle this, i'll take this guy apart at the joint's while he's consious !
this show is a great example of how life is. nobody says what they truly mean and quite frankly these unwritten rules of how society is and how we should behave is pretty sad to me. we have the ability to communicate but we cannot speak our minds in most cases
I have found that speaking your mind does no good anyway, most people are mindless robots and will just stare at you like an idiot if you talk to them with any kind of knowledge or insight.
Startled by the soundless starlight
May dreams arrive when intended
Truth is, there are no rules. Never have been. So why put so much stock in it? Every manmade institution is just that-manmade. In the real physical world, a $500 bill is worth almost nothing compared to a bologna sandwich. We should all start standing up for what we really believe. The pain and embarrassment would be temporary, the positive change in the world would be permanent. Now go home and get your fuckin shinebox.
We can't speak our minds cause we are all different... so we all have different minds that don't see alike... so we have to find something that we can agree on... which aint much...
name spoken like a g.
The guy that played Johnny sack was one of the best in the show. Absolutely killed it
"Johnny please, don't get up." He didn't look like he planning to.
So you think your better than me 😂😂
He learned that from Pussy B
It's funny that Carmine actually DOES know who Ralph is yet Johnny Sack tells him otherwise, but he also convinces Paulie that Carmine asks about him
Woooow!!! Amazing how I knew both scenarios but never looked @ them together like how you put it 👍🏾
That's funny
"Carmine doesn't know who you are" he did, he didn't know who paulie was
Basically another way of saying "this is beneath Carmine".
@Jaegar Ultima Carmine actually wanted Ralph.
That was just Johnny being manipulative, lying to both Ralph and Paulie to get them acting the way he wanted them to.
Johnny sack doesn't want to be stuck dealing with ralphie when carmine dies
Ralph wasn’t stupid but he had about the poorest judgment of any character on the show. He really did bring it all on himself.
Real psychopathic trait. Self destructive.
he probably got off on getting himself out of jams with his lying & manipulation too; his whole life was a prank call on someone
He might have thought that gangsters who kill people all the time, sometimes for purely personal reasons, wouldn't mind him doing the same to someone who was dead the moment she hit someone as connected as Ralph.
Too angry/no self control.
It was the coke.
To think that Jonnny Sack saves Ralphs life from Tony and some blunt instuments only to have Ralph later insult his wife with a fat joke in front of a lot of wise guys.
Dangerfinder treasureseeker That's a big part of why Johnny was so offended. For Ralph to have so little respect after Johnny interceded on his behalf.
It's because he was stupid.
It was the coke
Tony still killed him lol
@@villavelli Carmine should've just sanctioned the hit on Ralphie in the first place then Tony wouldn't have to deal with losing that horse
"Yeah what he want?...A fully fueled jet and a safe trip to the Pope."
Haha that was great
I don't get it
he wants safe pasage to carmine. where tony cant touch him after he joins new york
And also he was relishing in the fact that Ralph was running scared and desperate.
"1) She was a hoo0ah
2) She hit me."
As much as he made me laugh, Ralph was the embodiment of little dick energy.
And- that wasn't my baby she was carrying.
@@liamfitzgerald2414 Was the fucking coke, I should have never started with that shit.
@@FollettoLuk fooking Miami. It's everywhere
The writing for the show was at such an incredibly high level. Even though these are a bunch of criminals, there is still so much to relate to. When frustrations are high, and people have private conversations, and then relay the conversations to other affected parties, it is so very human that humans shade the descriptions of what was said to further their own purposes. Brilliant writing.
Sack always did this. True slimeball and they'd believe his every word.
“Capo’s what he mentioned. I threw cold water on it right away.”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao they’re all filthy liars it’s hilarious...”he came at with a chainsaw, I have a right to defend myself Tone” - Paulie
Or when he told Ralphie over the phone that Tony was 'delighted to see him'. He's such a snake
Absolute boss
She was a who-or gets me everytime 🤣🤣🤣
So many fascinating characters in the show, never tired of looking at it.
Love how careful Johnny Sack was smoking with his ashtray when he is sitting on his fake lawn, but as soon as he gets up and walks into the natural grass, he throws his cig butt like he doesn't give a crap.
Johnny Sack is the QB who throws lead passes to WR's that wind up getting them decapitated by a safety
1:23 "New York and the Sopranos have long-standing ties, and that's not gonna change, not for you or anybody else."
...
It certainly changed for Philly "I compromised" Leotardo.
John Doe That's because Phil wanted payback for his little brother and for when Tony chased him through Brooklyn and made Phil look like a weak bitch.
How long was Phil in the can for?
grannykiller 20 Fuckin years
Whatever happened there........
@John Lorton Yes! My estimation of him as a man, just fuckin' plummeted when I found out.
He's DELIGHTED you want to see him. "That's great, he said that! Yea because that sounds like Tony Soprano.
last time Tony was delighted was when he found a cannoli under his chair that he'd forgotten about
"He's DELIGHTED you want to see him"
...What's this? A fuckin' tea house party? 😄
Ralph- He’s not leaving me with a whole lot of options here
John- Don’t talk crazy! If you want to commit suicide pills are a lot easier!!
That response is everything !
"Carmine doesn't know who you are."
He values Ralphie's life more than your's Johnny Boy.
D- Logan That was after Ralphie was put in charge of the Esplanade, not during this scene.
Johnny plays both sides like a French violinist. Smooth and graceful never nervous and so sure of his movements. A true art form to manipulate a situation like that
The only time you ever see these guys smile is when someone else is in pain/embarrassed/giving them money.
Johnny doesn't smile because Ginny can no longer get on her knees.
0:14 is where Ralph thought of the Ginny joke
One of the saddest scenes was when Paulie is introducing himself to Carmine, and Carmine doesn't know him. Paulies face is so sad.
No way Carmine didn't know Paulie, they've both been in the game for decades
@@ennuiblue4295 he thinks very highly of him I've heard
"He's delighted you want to see him" 😂
"Johnny, Please, don't get up"
He was never going to, anyway.
Goodfella's Pauli didn't have to walk for nobody para-phrase....
Wasn't Ralph such a kind, caring person.
John,Ralph,Tony,Silvio,Bobby,Chris,Junior,Vito a lot of great characters ,this show is timeless masterpiece.
Throws a lit cigarette into dead fall foliage... what could go wrong?!
Tough, you can almost feel the humidity from the video, so it should be alright 😂😂
Johhny sack sat in his garden with a wireless chilling to the baseball seems real wholesome. We all know he has a painful fate coming his way so it makes these small simple pleasure seem even more important
Live the way Sac smokes, class all over
probs fake cigs if the actor wasn't a smoker in real life
Isabel Beckerman -- Yes, he did indeed quit smoking actually while he was still on the show. For the most part, these were real cigarettes but near the end of his time on the Sopranos, he managed to quit smoking and from then on they used fake cigarettes for his character.
I absolutely love how this entire orchestration by Sack was juxtaposed together, talking to Tony, then immediately the next shot talking to Ralph, and so on and so on. Also his most inspirational line of the show: "...But she was a whore, Tony".
A. She was a shinebox. B. She SHINED me
Ben L :/
Can somebody over lay that in this scene it would be epuc
@Jason Voorheese
LMAO Come on man. Even the lamest shinebox comment merits a chuckle.
C, that wasn't my shinebox she was carrying
Poor execution
As if Sack was going to get up for Ralphie??
Johnny had a reply for EVERYTHING!!
At 20 seconds was the exact moment Ralph noticed the 95 pound mole on Ginny’s ass and knew he had to inform the crew
Johnny was such a top notch underboss. Carmine really took him for granted.
Horrible boss tho
@@evangelionl0vr857 Some people just arent meant to be on top, Sil knew that
Too much of a temper though. Carmine wanted to run a professional operation, without emotions getting in the way. John's reaction to the fat joke thing could have caused a war between the families, if Carmine hadn't stepped in.
@@colorcombinations7387 “Again with the money?!” 🤣🤣
@@meekmozart5216 "Yh Again with Money so either Name a Price or Get the Fuck over it!"
Some of the best actors come late to the stage. Curatola managed this character like an old master. He played it exactly the way he auditioned it - quietly, but with an often terrifying, sinister ferocity. “We’re done here.”
“used to be some hoofer poor thing, takes a terrible toll on the joints.” 😂😂
Had to look up what Hoofer was. A Professional Tap Dancer? Ginny??? Yeah right! 3000 boxes of Twinkies ago maybe.
@@Stuart267Hence USED TO BE
Jonny: Carmine does not know who you are
Later in the series
Carmine: No, you can't kill Ralph, he earns us all too much money
johnny is extremely good at information management lol
@@thomasstone3480 Yeah, the way he made Paulie believe Carmine was interested in him, he performed his job as emissary very well indeed
“She used to be a hoofer, poor thing….takes a terrible toll on the joints.”
I find it interesting that Johnny has a little paper cup for his cigarette's ashes, but just throws the cigarette butt on the ground.
Only a smoker would understand ...
It's to not get ash on his pants or clothes. Definitely not about littering or the environment
johnny was such a well written character and great actor
C'mon CI-TEH!!!🙌💙
@@ryanschultz4119 CTID
Johnny Sack might be the best side character. He dominates every scene
The reason why Carmine doesn’t know Ralph is because he thinks the world of Paulie
'And it wasn't my kid she was carrying'. Johnny realized why Tony punched him, his reaction says it all. He literally looked down on him.
Sack was a level-headed guy about everything except Ginny
Remember Tony in Little Italy after the guys said the thing to his daughter.... teeth all over the floor. Filmed @ John's on 12th Street, The Village NYC.
He lost his shit over Joey peeps too
Fuck you asshole.
Patent leather shoes also
Ralph has absolutely no idea how lucky he is that he caught Johnny in a benevolent mood - and the fact that Johnny's actually trying to save his life here completely goes over his head. Typical Ralph blaming his f-ups on anything but himself, so never taking responsibility. Maybe the big earner, but a real loose cannon which led to his demise.
Ralph makes a shit ton of money and goes to johnny for everything. It was easily worth it to keep a capable guy alive who gives you all the news of whats going on in Jersey.
@@wowthatsawesome2762 Exactly, Tony wanted to prevent Ralph from getting to close to New York. It was one of the initial reasons he denied Ralph for captain and put in Gigi