Thanks for the unboxing and your initial impressions. I'm looking forward to your evaluation of this press. I love LEE's Classic Turret and, as someone else already said, I hope they don't discontinue it!
Really cool seeing this new press. Love my old Lee classic turret... use it all the time even though I have a Dillon. Not sure I'll splurge for one of these newer presses, but man does it look good. Thanks so much for sharing this with us! Looks like Lee put a lot of thought into this new press. Hope you have a great weekend!
Thanks, Christian. I’m right with you on the old turret. If this one doesn’t pan out for me, I’ll peddle it and won’t be out too much loot. Thanks for stopping by. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Looks like a nice press. If I didn’t already have a classic turret press I’d be interested. One thing I wish Lee would change is the safety prime system. Not my favorite priming system.
I never thought I would go back but I have all but quit using the 4 hole turret press, now I use an APP along with a single stage RCBS Jr., although as you know, I do mostly small batches of rifle and very little pistol.
I am not a fan of my 4-hole press for rifle rounds, and I’m sure this will be the same. To my mind, Rifle are best done on a single stage with the exception of high-volume stuff like 223. Thanks for chiming in. It’s good to hear from you. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I am exactly same. The lil Classic 4 hole is not a good choice for med and large bottle neck rifle. I dont use for any bottleneck. This (most all) lee presses do not cam over. I dont like that. But for straight wall pistol its a awesome lil press I ise for all my pistol stuff and like it allot. I know what it is. I know its gonna break/wear out before it should. Its a consume-able I know this going in. I like some attributes of this new press. Thanks Walter!
Great stuff Sir. I didn't encounter problems with different shell holders. I used Lee and RCBS. I'll have to investigate that more. I have the rest of the turrets in the mail for the next video. The bullet feeder is a nice option too.
Thanks Flier. You know it’s all your fault that I got this, right? 🤣🤣 It will be fun to compare notes on this after we’ve both had time to effectively evaluate. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@TreeTopFlier thanks, Treetop. None of your messages showed up anywhere. Maybe Y/T has an issue with phone numbers? My email is in the ‘about’ section of the channel. Great talking with you today.
Lee and Dillon seem like the only reloading companies left that still innovate on a regular basis... seems like RCBS, Redding, Hornady and all the others have been stagnant for atleast the last decade or so... I really wish that Redding would update their Turret press. I love my T7, but a semi auto version would be king! Specially when I don't have as much time to spend at the bench like I used too...
Nice review on this new press, Walter. I contacted John Lee, and he is 100% committed to providing reloaders with efficient ammo loading. He does not believe in single stage presses. And he does not like the other manufacturer turret presses as they are all C designs - when pressure is applied, the tipping forces on the central axis are major. We know that Lyman and Redding have buttressing at the 180 degree position to offset this weakness. All the new Lee presses were designed to be strong O designs. The more ergonomic handle is a plus. Nice video, Walter.... Steve
Thanks, FC. Lee is clearly focused on multi-die presses, but I often still want to use a single stage. I am not ready to recommend this one yet. I think there are improvements that need to be made. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Hiya, Hot Pot! The case kicker and ability to have variable stations, plus breech lock are all plusses for me. The mechanics are still a “wait and see” issue as to whether it all holds up. Thanks for stopping by. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice unbiased review, thanks. It looks like Lee repurposed parts from many different presses. I can see several parts repurposed from the six pack pro.
Hi Rusty. I do believe that is part of Lee’s plan. The foundation of this press is the same as what’s on the 6-pack, minus obvious differences such as the ram, shell plate, etc. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Good start. Very interesting. I'm sticking with my Classic Cast Turret for now, with complete satisfaction within the parameters of what that press is. Frankly, hanging all the extra primer doodads at the top of the press reminds me of a vacuum cleaner "tool caddy" that always gets in the way. Time will tell, I suppose.
Thanks for stopping by. I really like my 4-hole turret as well. It’s been a real workhorse. There’s something of a learning curve with this new one as the workings are really quite different. I’ll be talking about all that in the next video. I’m with you on the tool-hanger concept. There are better places to put that stuff. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
You have to look at the bigger picture at hand here. This press was meant to accompany the SIXPACK Pro. All of Lee's presses moving forward will be breech lock. Make your smaller batches of ammo on the turret press or use it for load development, then, once you find that perfect load, just take your dies out and pop them in the Sixpack and you're off to the races!
@@The2ndProtectsTheRest I fully embrace that concept. The challenge is that I haven’t found the die adjustment to be consistent from one type of press to another. It would be very useful if a Breech Lock die could be removed from a progressive like the 4000 or 6000 and used for a single operation in a Breech Lock Challenger without adjustment. I doubt that a configured die can be truly interchanged between an Ultimate Turret and any other Breech Lock press.
I bet Lyman shellholders won't fit at all due to their large diameter. I looked hard at this press when I wanted another turret as I wanted to move back away from progressives due to modern component costs. I "ultimately" went with the Lyman All American 8. I've owned many of LEE's turret presses over the years starting with their first 3 hole many year ago and since have had multiples of them all except this new ultimate. It would be hard for anyone to argue against their classic iron turret press if one can get by with four dies, but I didn't like the "gimmicky" appeal of the ultimate and so I bought the Lyman which is a massive very strong press at 23 pounds, but it has more ram slop than any press I've owned so I wouldn't load rifle ammo (except for AR 10's & 15's) on it, but it's just fine for pistol ammo. The LEE classic loads fine hunting, target and match grade rifle fodder, but I've sold all three of those as well.
I’ve upgraded this one now, and still am not a fan. It doesn’t do enough extra from the 4-hole classic to warrant its purchase for most recreational loaders. My T-7 is a great press, with very little play in the ram. Thanks so much for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a I'm glad I decided against it. I wish I'd chose the T-7, but I opted for the 8th hole! I had purchased the victory when Lyman released it and my specimen had the tightest tolerances you could ask for so I had high hopes for the turret and too I have a literal ton of Lyman's products. I don't have issues with cases not going straight into the dies so it hasn't caused any problems as of yet and if it does in the future I have the warranty at least.
Looks like a dandy press. I need to call Lee and see if they’re planning to discontinue the classic 4 hole. If they are I’m gonna order another one lol. I’ve been looking for an old 3 hole turret press with the high base locally but so far one hasn’t turned up.
Hi GaBoy. I looked for the old 3-hole turret and couldn’t find one either. Lee does seem to be phasing out the non breech lock presses. I hope they keep the 4 holer. If you get word from Lee, let me know! I’d pick up another one myself. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Hi, Barry. Thanks for stopping by. I have good lighting as well on my Classic Turret. With as many presses as I have, I’ve collected several LED systems. I tried a vertical strip on the left/front leg on this new press and it was inadequate. We need an “overhead” solution here. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
It seems to be better than the classic 4 hole. I just don’t like that you have to read the directions for the new press… Lee always requires new owners to read directions and not just use directions they might already be familiar with…
Haha..spoken like a true man! There really isn’t that much in there. It’s a different press, different machinery. The directions from the old 4-hole press wouldn’t get you up to speed very quickly on this one. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Hi.thanks. It seems to work fine with MOST shell holders, other than the knurled Reddings and that one RCBS. I don’t know if there’s a thin enough o-ring, but something like a “paper patch” might snug them up. Lee shell holders work fine. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Hi Ronald. I also deprime mostly on the Lee Reloader, except for a new large batch of range brass, then the APP goes to work. I think the impetus for a new, different turret was to go breech lock and more stations to accommodate the bullet feeder. As of now, though, I’m done with this press. Too many issues and I have other options. Thanks for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Hi Walter nice looking press the part I don’t like and will it last long is the shell holder part it being plastic also will it stay in place so it will kick the brass out every time because shell holder do rotate looking forward for further updates thanks for sharing
Hello, and thank you for stopping by. I do not own a 6-pack pro and have never used one. Thus, sadly, I cannot provide you with a definitive answer to your question. I will say, however, that I have not been impressed overall with the Ultimate Turret. To my mind, there are some glaring problems that Lee needs to work out. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
They ARE removing these. I’ve had several strikes for loafing and casting, and lost an entire channel. Sadly, TH-cam practices selective enforcement of their policies. That is why so many of us are moving over to Rumble. Thanks so much for watching and taking time to comment. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Hobbies don't need a reason to buy it, it just because you want to.
Hah..yeah. Thats it in a nutshell! Thanks for the back-up, Ronnie! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Also, freedom
Thanks for the unboxing and your initial impressions. I'm looking forward to your evaluation of this press. I love LEE's Classic Turret and, as someone else already said, I hope they don't discontinue it!
Hi Michael. I’m anxious to give it a good test too. Thanks for stopping by. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Really cool seeing this new press. Love my old Lee classic turret... use it all the time even though I have a Dillon. Not sure I'll splurge for one of these newer presses, but man does it look good. Thanks so much for sharing this with us! Looks like Lee put a lot of thought into this new press. Hope you have a great weekend!
Thanks, Christian. I’m right with you on the old turret. If this one doesn’t pan out for me, I’ll peddle it and won’t be out too much loot. Thanks for stopping by. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Looks like a nice press. If I didn’t already have a classic turret press I’d be interested. One thing I wish Lee would change is the safety prime system. Not my favorite priming system.
Hi Jesse. I’ve never liked it either. It’s dang near as fast to just manually place a primer in the primer arm, or prime off press! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I never thought I would go back but I have all but quit using the 4 hole turret press, now I use an APP along with a single stage RCBS Jr., although as you know, I do mostly small batches of rifle and very little pistol.
I am not a fan of my 4-hole press for rifle rounds, and I’m sure this will be the same. To my mind, Rifle are best done on a single stage with the exception of high-volume stuff like 223. Thanks for chiming in. It’s good to hear from you. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I am exactly same.
The lil Classic 4 hole is not a good choice for med and large bottle neck rifle. I dont use for any bottleneck. This (most all) lee presses do not cam over. I dont like that. But for straight wall pistol its a awesome lil press I ise for all my pistol stuff and like it allot.
I know what it is. I know its gonna break/wear out before it should. Its a consume-able I know this going in.
I like some attributes of this new press.
Thanks Walter!
Great stuff Sir. I didn't encounter problems with different shell holders. I used Lee and RCBS. I'll have to investigate that more. I have the rest of the turrets in the mail for the next video. The bullet feeder is a nice option too.
Thanks Flier. You know it’s all your fault that I got this, right? 🤣🤣 It will be fun to compare notes on this after we’ve both had time to effectively evaluate. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
If it's my fault, boy I sure hope you like it lol...@@viejo2a
@TreeTopFlier i need to talk with you one day soon.
@@viejo2a I've replied with my phone number several times... not showing up. Might have gone to your held for review tab. Let me know
@@TreeTopFlier thanks, Treetop. None of your messages showed up anywhere. Maybe Y/T has an issue with phone numbers? My email is in the ‘about’ section of the channel. Great talking with you today.
Lee and Dillon seem like the only reloading companies left that still innovate on a regular basis... seems like RCBS, Redding, Hornady and all the others have been stagnant for atleast the last decade or so... I really wish that Redding would update their Turret press. I love my T7, but a semi auto version would be king! Specially when I don't have as much time to spend at the bench like I used too...
Thanks for stopping by and taking time to comment! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice review on this new press, Walter. I contacted John Lee, and he is 100% committed to providing reloaders with efficient ammo loading. He does not believe in single stage presses. And he does not like the other manufacturer turret presses as they are all C designs - when pressure is applied, the tipping forces on the central axis are major. We know that Lyman and Redding have buttressing at the 180 degree position to offset this weakness. All the new Lee presses were designed to be strong O designs. The more ergonomic handle is a plus. Nice video, Walter.... Steve
Thanks, FC. Lee is clearly focused on multi-die presses, but I often still want to use a single stage. I am not ready to recommend this one yet. I think there are improvements that need to be made. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice new addition to Lee's lineup. I really like my classic turret but this one may be an improvement 👉🏼💨
Hiya, Hot Pot! The case kicker and ability to have variable stations, plus breech lock are all plusses for me. The mechanics are still a “wait and see” issue as to whether it all holds up. Thanks for stopping by. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice unbiased review, thanks. It looks like Lee repurposed parts from many different presses. I can see several parts repurposed from the six pack pro.
Hi Rusty. I do believe that is part of Lee’s plan. The foundation of this press is the same as what’s on the 6-pack, minus obvious differences such as the ram, shell plate, etc. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Good start. Very interesting. I'm sticking with my Classic Cast Turret for now, with complete satisfaction within the parameters of what that press is. Frankly, hanging all the extra primer doodads at the top of the press reminds me of a vacuum cleaner "tool caddy" that always gets in the way. Time will tell, I suppose.
Thanks for stopping by. I really like my 4-hole turret as well. It’s been a real workhorse. There’s something of a learning curve with this new one as the workings are really quite different. I’ll be talking about all that in the next video. I’m with you on the tool-hanger concept. There are better places to put that stuff. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Seems as Lee comes out with something new every year. - Dave
Hi, Dave. The’ve come out with quite a few new products this year alone. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I like removable turrets, and I like quick change bushings - I haven't yet embraced quick change bushings in a multi-station press.
Good morning, Mr. Chapin. You’re like me..getting scary low on presses. You NEED another one 😁🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Dooh! 🤭
You have to look at the bigger picture at hand here. This press was meant to accompany the SIXPACK Pro. All of Lee's presses moving forward will be breech lock. Make your smaller batches of ammo on the turret press or use it for load development, then, once you find that perfect load, just take your dies out and pop them in the Sixpack and you're off to the races!
@@The2ndProtectsTheRest I fully embrace that concept. The challenge is that I haven’t found the die adjustment to be consistent from one type of press to another. It would be very useful if a Breech Lock die could be removed from a progressive like the 4000 or 6000 and used for a single operation in a Breech Lock Challenger without adjustment. I doubt that a configured die can be truly interchanged between an Ultimate Turret and any other Breech Lock press.
@@WilliamCChapin that's fair. I get that too
New toys are always fun!!!
Hi Tim. Thanks, Amigo. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice press, it would seem. Great job on giving us all a look at it.👍👍
Hi, Curtis. Thanks. There going to be issues, I’m sure. There always are with new stuff from Lee. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks for showing it off to us Walter. I’ve been interested in seeing it in action since I found out it was a thing.
Hiya, Jamie! Thanks for checking in 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
You are the man when it comes to new stuff from Lee! Again, I had no idea this was available. Looks interesting... hope it exceeds your expectations!
Hi Papa. I’m sure there will be issues but it looks good so far. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Great video Walter and that Lee press looks quite sturdy, but I’m the same as you the plastic bits to me look very cheesy
Hi, Mac. The press main parts are very sturdy. We’ll have to see how the plastic bits hold up. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I bet Lyman shellholders won't fit at all due to their large diameter. I looked hard at this press when I wanted another turret as I wanted to move back away from progressives due to modern component costs. I "ultimately" went with the Lyman All American 8. I've owned many of LEE's turret presses over the years starting with their first 3 hole many year ago and since have had multiples of them all except this new ultimate. It would be hard for anyone to argue against their classic iron turret press if one can get by with four dies, but I didn't like the "gimmicky" appeal of the ultimate and so I bought the Lyman which is a massive very strong press at 23 pounds, but it has more ram slop than any press I've owned so I wouldn't load rifle ammo (except for AR 10's & 15's) on it, but it's just fine for pistol ammo. The LEE classic loads fine hunting, target and match grade rifle fodder, but I've sold all three of those as well.
I’ve upgraded this one now, and still am not a fan. It doesn’t do enough extra from the 4-hole classic to warrant its purchase for most recreational loaders. My T-7 is a great press, with very little play in the ram. Thanks so much for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a I'm glad I decided against it. I wish I'd chose the T-7, but I opted for the 8th hole! I had purchased the victory when Lyman released it and my specimen had the tightest tolerances you could ask for so I had high hopes for the turret and too I have a literal ton of Lyman's products. I don't have issues with cases not going straight into the dies so it hasn't caused any problems as of yet and if it does in the future I have the warranty at least.
Good breakdown of it
Thanks, Scotsman. There’s already an issue. I have to call Lee. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a why am I not surprised
Looks like a dandy press. I need to call Lee and see if they’re planning to discontinue the classic 4 hole. If they are I’m gonna order another one lol. I’ve been looking for an old 3 hole turret press with the high base locally but so far one hasn’t turned up.
Hi GaBoy. I looked for the old 3-hole turret and couldn’t find one either. Lee does seem to be phasing out the non breech lock presses. I hope they keep the 4 holer. If you get word from Lee, let me know! I’d pick up another one myself. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Looks good, hope she works smooth for you.
I hope so too. Thanks, Len 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thank you Walter.
Hi Rick. Thanks for stopping by. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I need to set my up.
Hi RTac. It’s easy. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I have a LED that is Attached to the front right Leg support on my Classic Turret press
Hi, Barry. Thanks for stopping by. I have good lighting as well on my Classic Turret. With as many presses as I have, I’ve collected several LED systems. I tried a vertical strip on the left/front leg on this new press and it was inadequate. We need an “overhead” solution here. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
It seems to be better than the classic 4 hole.
I just don’t like that you have to read the directions for the new press… Lee always requires new owners to read directions and not just use directions they might already be familiar with…
Haha..spoken like a true man! There really isn’t that much in there. It’s a different press, different machinery. The directions from the old 4-hole press wouldn’t get you up to speed very quickly on this one. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Maybe try to see if you can find a thin O ring to go on the RCBS or Redding shell holder to hold it tighter?
Hi.thanks. It seems to work fine with MOST shell holders, other than the knurled Reddings and that one RCBS. I don’t know if there’s a thin enough o-ring, but something like a “paper patch” might snug them up. Lee shell holders work fine. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Honestly, I don't understand why the Value Turret Press was changed. I deprime on an old Reloader Press, so spent primers are not an issue.
Hi Ronald. I also deprime mostly on the Lee Reloader, except for a new large batch of range brass, then the APP goes to work. I think the impetus for a new, different turret was to go breech lock and more stations to accommodate the bullet feeder. As of now, though, I’m done with this press. Too many issues and I have other options. Thanks for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Hi Walter nice looking press the part I don’t like and will it last long is the shell holder part it being plastic also will it stay in place so it will kick the brass out every time because shell holder do rotate looking forward for further updates thanks for sharing
Hi Ocean. 👋🏻 Thanks for stopping by. I have the same concerns, but we shall see! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Fantabulous 🤠
Thanks, Mok! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Ingenious ideas and cheap materials. Designed to force ya to buy more lee junk.
Thanks for the rundown.
They do have some ingenious ways to get things done. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I guess 5 holes would work if you had a bullet feed die or powder check die ?
Hi, James. That’s their idea. The “kit” version comes with the bullet feeder magazine. The actual inline bullet feeder die is extra. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
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Thanks, Don. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Which is better between this and the six pack pro?
Hello, and thank you for stopping by. I do not own a 6-pack pro and have never used one. Thus, sadly, I cannot provide you with a definitive answer to your question. I will say, however, that I have not been impressed overall with the Ultimate Turret. To my mind, there are some glaring problems that Lee needs to work out. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
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Thanks, C-Dub! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
How many of you guys and gals shoot 44cal bullets and looking for a pointed bullet ?
You mean like the Lyman 429303, or the Hornady FTX flex tip?
@@viejo2a like the bullet you see for the 450 bushmaster with the poly tip only in lead
I wohder when TH-cam will remove these type videos with their new anti gun policies
They ARE removing these. I’ve had several strikes for loafing and casting, and lost an entire channel. Sadly, TH-cam practices selective enforcement of their policies. That is why so many of us are moving over to Rumble. Thanks so much for watching and taking time to comment. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Your allowed to have a reloading press in commi California? That’s odd
Haha..Yeah.. strange for sure. Thanks for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
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Thanks, Glen 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸