"No one ever got fired for buying cisco" is an "updated" version of "no one ever got fired for buying IBM" Honestly, it's no longer year 2000 anymore, or even 2010. There's so much better available now from competitors.
Recently I was part of a multimilion networking installation. Cisco failed us with their new Meraki switches big time. It just didn't deliver what it promised. But being a new model everyone with experience told us we were stupid to bet on new models. In the end we became cisco's testers it cost hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars. Noone from architecrure design departmemt faced any reprecautions. But I bet you that if this happened with different brand that person would be pushed away after the project. The old managers still see Cisco as a good bet and won't blame people for choosing it.
Mmmh find me Z system equivalent in competitors... Don't bash a brand without thinking a little. For some stuff IBM is still well in place and no one is trying to taking this market share.
@@TantissTheEmperor having worked at IBM for 7yrs (and quit) yeah SOME of their stuff is ok. Certainly not all of it though. Blindly accepting everything from a company is a bad idea.
@@colinstu yeah sure. I worked too at IBM and mainframes are a niche where they are very good at. They don’t sell regular hardware anymore anyway. Lenovo took over.
The biggest hurdle ive seen in the wild wasn't actually the 10g switches. Its the cabling. A lot of office building are decades old and have CAT5 cables for client and interconnect through the walls. And they often just rent the space. So upgrading isnt possible as that woul require opening up the walls. I've had to run railing on the walls to circumvent this but yeah... Amd them you've got the problems of workstation not having 10gb NIC. I can't wait til more consumer grade motherboards have it on board. 2.5gb is barely seen outside of premium motherboards. I like my small from factor PCs in my house (and my main rig) but i can't exactly add a 10gb NIC on a mini itx board :(
Jeff if possible please do a follow up video on the actual features of the switch. Like can I run rdma RoCE scenarios, precision time protocol, etc. for many users the point of this switch would be to attach storage (for me cameras), but I’m not sure if it will efficiently support this with low latency. More info would be appreciated.
We still stick with Cisco at my company, it just works and we have a larger network compaired to our size. But cisco is also kinda cheap here in terms of what i pay for it.
Yup switch with a whole pile of SFP ports for the fraction of the cost of a C9300 has got me excited, I will be having a chat with our procurement/vendor management people to get them to have a nose
I know of a place where the "standard" is 100Mbit and they have devices bandwidth limited to 1/2 of that! Did I mention that the devices are involved in moving large images all day some of which are 2GBs in size? So frustrating!
What i have been waiting for is a followup or competitor to my CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+RM(seriously please dont put modifiers in your product name) All i want is to swap out the 1G ports for 2.5 or 5g, keep the 4x10g and 2x40G
Just a tad too expensive for me. I want to upgrade my 16 port SFP+ Mikrotik, and I was looking at the model with 24x10Gbps SFP+ plus 2 QSFP+ (40gbE), which is EOL. So those QSFP+ ports would serve me well for the storage, and 40GbE cards are dirt cheap. I think I saw it for U$S500.
Dude, the CRS326-24S+2Q+RM is advertised on their website as one of their fastest switches and has L3HW Offloading which makes it one of the most flexible pieces of equipment Mikrotik has in their lineup. I personally built a fiber backbone out of these and I know dozens of people using them all over their networks. If you have a forum post from Mikrotik saying it's going eol I'd believe you, otherwise someone is pulling your leg.
@@thomascroghan9255 I bought that same switch just a few months ago. If it's EOL then it would be a recent thing. I could understand them deprecating 40G since it's basically dead outside of homelabs, but they'd better have a 25G or 100G uplinked alternative ready to ship if/when they kill the 40G ones.
@@BillLambert Yeap. I didn't mean to say that the CRS326-24S+2Q+RM was EOL. I meant that 40GbE is EOL. That's why NICs are dirt cheap. I wanted to but that switch to replace my current CRS317-1G-16S+ but I can't find it at a good price where I'm from.
full duplex 1g!? I have 2g symmetrical fiber (2300mb actual) - if I were doing isp work, I wouldn't want anything short of 10g so I would have room to offer different tiers of service (for example, I can get up to 5g fiber right now, and I was told that would probably increase after they finish the rollout to my neighborhood (it's a very new rollout and I don't think they have any idea how their provisioning is going to look once the initial burst of signups is complete so it makes sense for them to not offer the max they can deliver to everyone all at once if it's going to be severely overprovisioned). tl;dr: all isps should be using AT LEAST 10g on the customer side ad AT LEAST 100gb on the uplink side (preferably 200 or perhaps even 400 depending on the size of the switch)
XGS-PON is 10g on a splitter. You have a 10g link limited to 2.3g. If everyone got 5g and hit it at once, you would all get 10 divided by the split ratio gigabit.
Also, 1g DIA is what he is talking about. That is a dedicated line that allows for you to get that full duplex 1g any time of day. You do not have that on your residential connection. 1g DIA is about $600-$2000 a month depending on location.
Holy shit I have been waiting for this video for years, this product line is the exact fit I was looking for as a home unit. Fuuuuck, now I know what to goal for! 🤣🍻
These look decent. I have been looking for an inexpensive option that also includes 10G base T ports. Ubiquiti used to have the ES-16-XG but they have been out of stock everywhere for over a year.
I sold my ES-16-XG as I needed more and could get them. I bought a TP-LINK TL-SX3016F to test and have been very happy with it. I was happy enough with it that I bought 2 more of them and sold the ES-16-XG on eBay. So far after about a year they've "just worked".
For most of my clients everything is in the cloud, since their internet is not faster then 1 Gbit, their network doesn't need to be either. Quick Tech tip. Don't migrate your print server to the cloud, it's hell for any one regularly printing Adobe PDF. Or anything image based.
Yes, part of sponsored videos is typically an approval process. In this case, they reviewed my script for technical accuracy, and saw the video prior to publishing.
Interesting video, although someone of my level is only just "testing the waters" of home networking myself. However, i noticed that your mic audio isnt centred in the video? i did faff with my headphones to see if it was just my end (as my headphones are rather decrepit after nearly 8 years of usage), but it showed up on my other audio devices too. it all seems left-focussed rather than centred🤔
I am not a networking guy... I mean sure, as a private cloud engineer, there will always be some networking involved but I am not THE network guy of the company by a long shot. This video makes me want to open a municipal ISP :D. If only I could get the fiber laid into the streets... Our ex national telco doesn't seem capable of it... Seriously though, if I had the balls I'd try to get my own cloud provider running based on hardware like this. I am getting real tired of paying the likes of Cisco, HP, Lenovo, NetApp, EMC, Vmware and so on millions in support contracts that have gotten very questionable in usefulness lately...
Dude, those companies exist to service other companies first and foremost. If your contract people aren't ensuring requisite support for what is being paid, that's on them. Have you ever experienced 24-hour turnaround on an RMA? It's glorious.
@@bonerjams2k3 24 hours, that's so cute. I'm used to 4 hours. I see you completely did not get the point of what I was saying. When stuff just works, as Cisco UCS used to, then you could easily get by having two more pieces of hardware waiting in a closet and relying on warranty. On the other hand, when shit don't work, what are you gonna do? Complain? To whom? It's not like their contracts aren't ironclad or you had the better lawyers to do anything about it even if you're absolutely in the right. Every single employer ever just took it without lube when a one of those companies decided to not deliver what is promised. If you haven't had that experience, you're either very young or have been working all your life for one of perhaps 100 companies worldwide.
I would say 10Gb is already outdated. I would not invest in 10Gb switches for servers, and go with 25Gb. Or if can find good deals, on used hardware, maybe 40Gb, but know that it is also kind of dead tech. (40Gb is 4x10Gb, but most big stuff is now 100Gb using 4x25Gb). So using 25Gb is more future proof in a sense, as one can usually split 100Gb ports into 4 25Gb ports easily and cheaply. 10Gb switches were okish maybe 5 years ago, and standard. Now not so much.
Really late... I do question myself about MTBF time of multi SFP port switches cited in this video. Because hardware cost is only one part of the installation fee for geographical networks.
You don't buy gear like like this if support is your concern. No one ever got fired for buying Cisco not only bc of the performance, reliability, etc, but also bc of the customer service (if your organization has the money).
It's a true sponsored video (i.e. they paid him to do the video, they didn't just send hardware), so in most cases they have the final say on what he can say in the video. Jeff always puts the disclaimers at the beginning of the video and this time he has not said "the sponsor has no say over what goes in the video". So I would assume that's what happens here
If the OS is based on Linux then how Free is it? Can I compile my own kernel and install it on these switches? Are there any proprietary firmwares and/or drivers?
That console screen shows a linux boot sequence, from the uboot bootloader loading the kernel and initramfs to Linux's dmesg and then init system during boot. So that's an embedded Linux system. Not sure wtf is vxworks doing in the script but I blame Rett. He drank too much rainiers
Yea, just came down here to go wtf about this, they are two separate things, someone messed up on the script and something needs clarification on that.
I have a hard time using a switch that’s owned by a company out of hongkong, while agree the Cisco tax sucks at least you know your data isn’t being harvested at best or back doored at worst by the Chinese government
Normally if you're in 100G networking, you use a leaf spine architecture and route everything to overcome L2 limitations. 100G @L2 is imho not that useful or interesting.
Yeah this sounds a lot like a Huawei operation, make a good product for cheaper by taking government subsidies and get your backdoored stuff inside businnesses worldwide
@@truckerallikatuk Nice. I finally down to size a more modern switch. That has vlan support.lost 12 ports in the process thru. But end of day more newer switch and 75% less power draw
Ummmm... Mikrotik 2x100 & 16x25 for $1600? The CRS317 with 16x10 for $500? Mikrotik has been around since the '90s, and their hardware is better than anything else in the same class. Their stuff is absolute workhorses. It's more capable, and cheaper... I don't mind a guy making money, but there's better equipment for cheaper out there
I enjoy watching you, but this video really got me going. You're an influencer and to think you might lead lead some poor young IT manager to try to persuade the Director into choosing this over a 9300 is down right dangerous. The datasheet is 6 pages, I've seen some Netgear switches with more content then this document provides. I think I counted around 10 IEEE named standards. Not a mere mention of FCC, ISO or even UL certifications and that's just US Certs.. MIB's, I guess they don't know what they are, not a word. Stacking 8 switches with a 40Gbps interconnect, not even a backplane, seriously even the baby 9300 supports 1TBps, without using up a single preciouses QSFP port. You stack this correctly you won't end up with a single free 40G port. I'm guessing the X means it doesn't have a multicast routing table, how's that going to play out with a service provider? No IPv6 ACL's. The more I read, looks like they chose to use an X to indicate supported. Good choice, how's about a check mark, no let's use an X. The table column descriptions are on page 5 and the table is on page 6. If they can't spend the time to properly format a 6 page document, just imagine what other corners they've cut. I don't who in their right mind with any enterprise class networking experience would ever bet their job and most likely their career on installing this in their organization. I know this is the first time I've ever written a comment like this, in my 20+ years on TH-cam. This year I'll be celebrating my 25th year as a triple CCIE, don't spend 1 second looking at this product.
You are spot on. Totally apples to oranges when compared to Cisco. Since it's running Linux, how secure is the kernel? Does it calls home? What about support? Do they have a 24x7 TAC? 4hr RMA? SLA an escalations on support cases? How often security vulnerabilities are published and fixed? It would be career suicide to install this in an enterprise environment. Good for SMB at most.
...I thought I was pretty specific when I said this would be excellent in SMBs with annual budgets of less than $200K. If you're an IT guy and blindly buy something without reading the spec sheet to see if it fits your organizational requirements, that's on you. My job as an 'influencer' in this space is to show you products, not decide what is right for your specific use cases.
😂😂 just $1000 to upgrade home network .. jef, make money away from us bro ... we can barely afford our food shopping now a days ... have a wonderful paid promotional materials
Is the audio L/R balance leaning to the left ear more than usual, or is that me?
Same here
Same for me
the audio is not.....right
Oh thank God, I thought it was my ear buds crapping out on me.
Yeah for basic voiceover/talking head stiff, stereo signals should be summed to mono
I absolutely carry a serial cable in my bag 🤣
Been living that dongle life long before Apple made it cool 😎
Yeah same, and I'm not even a network engineer 😆
"No one ever got fired for buying cisco" is an "updated" version of "no one ever got fired for buying IBM"
Honestly, it's no longer year 2000 anymore, or even 2010. There's so much better available now from competitors.
Recently I was part of a multimilion networking installation. Cisco failed us with their new Meraki switches big time. It just didn't deliver what it promised. But being a new model everyone with experience told us we were stupid to bet on new models. In the end we became cisco's testers it cost hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars. Noone from architecrure design departmemt faced any reprecautions. But I bet you that if this happened with different brand that person would be pushed away after the project. The old managers still see Cisco as a good bet and won't blame people for choosing it.
Mmmh find me Z system equivalent in competitors... Don't bash a brand without thinking a little. For some stuff IBM is still well in place and no one is trying to taking this market share.
@@TantissTheEmperor having worked at IBM for 7yrs (and quit) yeah SOME of their stuff is ok. Certainly not all of it though. Blindly accepting everything from a company is a bad idea.
@@colinstu yeah sure. I worked too at IBM and mainframes are a niche where they are very good at. They don’t sell regular hardware anymore anyway. Lenovo took over.
The dod is still using Cisco switches
Best "sponsored" video I've seen in a while... puts others like unbox therapy to shame.
The S5300-24S8T6X is a very useful switch for me, the use case described is exactly what I would use it for.
It's almost like I know what I'm talking about sometimes 😉
Perfect when GPON is overkill.
Thank you for your interest in our switches🥰
Interesting video to show our switch, much appreciate, Jeff!
The biggest hurdle ive seen in the wild wasn't actually the 10g switches.
Its the cabling.
A lot of office building are decades old and have CAT5 cables for client and interconnect through the walls. And they often just rent the space. So upgrading isnt possible as that woul require opening up the walls.
I've had to run railing on the walls to circumvent this but yeah...
Amd them you've got the problems of workstation not having 10gb NIC.
I can't wait til more consumer grade motherboards have it on board. 2.5gb is barely seen outside of premium motherboards.
I like my small from factor PCs in my house (and my main rig) but i can't exactly add a 10gb NIC on a mini itx board :(
you should check out they have m.2 10g nics
Reason 124434 why I've always been a fan of external cabling and tubing
@@FilthyWeeb69 using the m.2 already for my main drive and its only got one slot
Jeff if possible please do a follow up video on the actual features of the switch. Like can I run rdma RoCE scenarios, precision time protocol, etc. for many users the point of this switch would be to attach storage (for me cameras), but I’m not sure if it will efficiently support this with low latency. More info would be appreciated.
And whether it supports BGP or at least OSPF... That review was imho a bit lacking...
The price of the WAPs are also quite good, would be really interested to see more on them.
We still stick with Cisco at my company, it just works and we have a larger network compaired to our size. But cisco is also kinda cheap here in terms of what i pay for it.
Your size has little to do with infrastructure
Ninkasi's brews are as tasty and as bold as their can art is awesome. I love aromatic beers.
Yup switch with a whole pile of SFP ports for the fraction of the cost of a C9300 has got me excited, I will be having a chat with our procurement/vendor management people to get them to have a nose
Hopefully, they have a chat with you about country of origin and long-term support...
Something's not right here..
I think it's the audio.
Nice, I'll have to check them out, thanks for sharing. 👍
Yeah this looks like a great thing to look into.
The company I work for uses Cisco and they are reliable but man are they expensive! Great video Jeff!
No subscription and 100gb! Sounds like the future of business networking! As far as home this would be massive overkill!
Great video as always but is the sound slightly off - seems quieter one side?
Yeah the balance was a bit off.
Yup, a bit too much to the left.
yeah definitely off balance for sure
I know of a place where the "standard" is 100Mbit and they have devices bandwidth limited to 1/2 of that! Did I mention that the devices are involved in moving large images all day some of which are 2GBs in size? So frustrating!
are they using USB hard drives to move those images? Because sending a kid with a drive up and down the office is faster than that
@@marcogenovesi8570 I think it may be an attempt to not overload the servers however I may be wrong.
@@drescherjm using USB drives is a great way to not overload the servers too.
Wicked video, loved this Jeff.
What i have been waiting for is a followup or competitor to my CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+RM(seriously please dont put modifiers in your product name)
All i want is to swap out the 1G ports for 2.5 or 5g, keep the 4x10g and 2x40G
They have it, the QSFPTEK 100504 48x2.5G 4x10G 2x40G
Shut up and take my money.
And here I were getting all excited to hear about doing cool stuff on a switch that's linux based and then it's just a commercial..
Just a tad too expensive for me. I want to upgrade my 16 port SFP+ Mikrotik, and I was looking at the model with 24x10Gbps SFP+ plus 2 QSFP+ (40gbE), which is EOL. So those QSFP+ ports would serve me well for the storage, and 40GbE cards are dirt cheap. I think I saw it for U$S500.
Dude, the CRS326-24S+2Q+RM is advertised on their website as one of their fastest switches and has L3HW Offloading which makes it one of the most flexible pieces of equipment Mikrotik has in their lineup.
I personally built a fiber backbone out of these and I know dozens of people using them all over their networks. If you have a forum post from Mikrotik saying it's going eol I'd believe you, otherwise someone is pulling your leg.
@@thomascroghan9255 I bought that same switch just a few months ago. If it's EOL then it would be a recent thing. I could understand them deprecating 40G since it's basically dead outside of homelabs, but they'd better have a 25G or 100G uplinked alternative ready to ship if/when they kill the 40G ones.
@@BillLambert Yeap. I didn't mean to say that the CRS326-24S+2Q+RM was EOL. I meant that 40GbE is EOL. That's why NICs are dirt cheap. I wanted to but that switch to replace my current CRS317-1G-16S+ but I can't find it at a good price where I'm from.
full duplex 1g!? I have 2g symmetrical fiber (2300mb actual) - if I were doing isp work, I wouldn't want anything short of 10g so I would have room to offer different tiers of service (for example, I can get up to 5g fiber right now, and I was told that would probably increase after they finish the rollout to my neighborhood (it's a very new rollout and I don't think they have any idea how their provisioning is going to look once the initial burst of signups is complete so it makes sense for them to not offer the max they can deliver to everyone all at once if it's going to be severely overprovisioned). tl;dr: all isps should be using AT LEAST 10g on the customer side ad AT LEAST 100gb on the uplink side (preferably 200 or perhaps even 400 depending on the size of the switch)
XGS-PON is 10g on a splitter. You have a 10g link limited to 2.3g. If everyone got 5g and hit it at once, you would all get 10 divided by the split ratio gigabit.
Also, 1g DIA is what he is talking about. That is a dedicated line that allows for you to get that full duplex 1g any time of day. You do not have that on your residential connection. 1g DIA is about $600-$2000 a month depending on location.
Holy shit I have been waiting for this video for years, this product line is the exact fit I was looking for as a home unit. Fuuuuck, now I know what to goal for! 🤣🍻
These look decent. I have been looking for an inexpensive option that also includes 10G base T ports. Ubiquiti used to have the ES-16-XG but they have been out of stock everywhere for over a year.
I sold my ES-16-XG as I needed more and could get them. I bought a TP-LINK TL-SX3016F to test and have been very happy with it. I was happy enough with it that I bought 2 more of them and sold the ES-16-XG on eBay. So far after about a year they've "just worked".
@jlficken that looks like a decent switch but it doesn't have 10g base t ports unfortunately.
@@BrandonGracyalny Oops...I missed the 10-GBaseT part.
I wound up just moving everything to fiber instead.
For most of my clients everything is in the cloud, since their internet is not faster then 1 Gbit, their network doesn't need to be either.
Quick Tech tip. Don't migrate your print server to the cloud, it's hell for any one regularly printing Adobe PDF. Or anything image based.
even better tech tip: don't have a print server at all
As for the other "usual disclaimers", did they get to see before or approve the video Jeff?
Yes, part of sponsored videos is typically an approval process. In this case, they reviewed my script for technical accuracy, and saw the video prior to publishing.
Interesting video, although someone of my level is only just "testing the waters" of home networking myself. However, i noticed that your mic audio isnt centred in the video? i did faff with my headphones to see if it was just my end (as my headphones are rather decrepit after nearly 8 years of usage), but it showed up on my other audio devices too. it all seems left-focussed rather than centred🤔
thx... i was thinking my ear infection is back and messing with my hearing....
I am not a networking guy... I mean sure, as a private cloud engineer, there will always be some networking involved but I am not THE network guy of the company by a long shot.
This video makes me want to open a municipal ISP :D.
If only I could get the fiber laid into the streets... Our ex national telco doesn't seem capable of it...
Seriously though, if I had the balls I'd try to get my own cloud provider running based on hardware like this. I am getting real tired of paying the likes of Cisco, HP, Lenovo, NetApp, EMC, Vmware and so on millions in support contracts that have gotten very questionable in usefulness lately...
Dude, those companies exist to service other companies first and foremost. If your contract people aren't ensuring requisite support for what is being paid, that's on them. Have you ever experienced 24-hour turnaround on an RMA? It's glorious.
@@bonerjams2k3 24 hours, that's so cute.
I'm used to 4 hours. I see you completely did not get the point of what I was saying.
When stuff just works, as Cisco UCS used to, then you could easily get by having two more pieces of hardware waiting in a closet and relying on warranty.
On the other hand, when shit don't work, what are you gonna do? Complain? To whom? It's not like their contracts aren't ironclad or you had the better lawyers to do anything about it even if you're absolutely in the right.
Every single employer ever just took it without lube when a one of those companies decided to not deliver what is promised.
If you haven't had that experience, you're either very young or have been working all your life for one of perhaps 100 companies worldwide.
I would love to see something similar to this in the 25gbe space to compete with Mikrotik and QNAP
Qnap is terrible
I love how your beer drops when the video clips
I would say 10Gb is already outdated. I would not invest in 10Gb switches for servers, and go with 25Gb. Or if can find good deals, on used hardware, maybe 40Gb, but know that it is also kind of dead tech. (40Gb is 4x10Gb, but most big stuff is now 100Gb using 4x25Gb). So using 25Gb is more future proof in a sense, as one can usually split 100Gb ports into 4 25Gb ports easily and cheaply. 10Gb switches were okish maybe 5 years ago, and standard. Now not so much.
Interesting switches, I still won't give up my Junipers, but these do look interesting.
You mean the Junipers with the hard coded backdoors that are actively exploited?
I won't upvote an advertisement, but I'll comment so you get the bonus interaction points.
Really late... I do question myself about MTBF time of multi SFP port switches cited in this video.
Because hardware cost is only one part of the installation fee for geographical networks.
Bro that offer at the end quite the deal....
You mention nothing about their support ? If I get a bug impacting my data-center, how fast will I get a patch?
You don't buy gear like like this if support is your concern. No one ever got fired for buying Cisco not only bc of the performance, reliability, etc, but also bc of the customer service (if your organization has the money).
Do the sponsors in videos like this have final say over what content can or can't be in the video, or are you free to say whatever you want?
It's a true sponsored video (i.e. they paid him to do the video, they didn't just send hardware), so in most cases they have the final say on what he can say in the video.
Jeff always puts the disclaimers at the beginning of the video and this time he has not said "the sponsor has no say over what goes in the video".
So I would assume that's what happens here
If the OS is based on Linux then how Free is it? Can I compile my own kernel and install it on these switches? Are there any proprietary firmwares and/or drivers?
I'm wondering the same thing. What is the long term support for the firmware.... especially in the realm of security fixes....🤔
I'm sure you'll love it when there's a dependency issue for some package that's no longer supported
Thats awesome. Absolutely overkill for "your mom using the pc"-tier of user... but still great nonetheless.
moms only need wifi. That's well-known
I don't need a municipal ISP grade fiber switch... but I _want_ one
This is an interesting Switch
Which is your favourite brand and why is it QSFPTEK?
QSFPTEK is my favorite switch on the citadel.
What about L3 routing performance?
I don't need it...I don't need it..but GOD I WANT IT.
I love you but something is up with the audio that made me unable to watch
it's a me problem
1:30 😂🤣
Love the reverse snoop dog.😊
🤜🤛 Good ear
Gigabit? I just finished upgrading all of our access switches from fast ethernet to 2.5gig on Saturday.
Did you drop any of the token rings? I hear they're easy to lose on the floor when you unplug them.
Welcome to modernity. Lol
If I have to get a serial to type c adapter, then how will I use my core 2 laptop that has a native port on it?
why the right audio channel is so low!
Why would a switch need subscriptions? - that sounds super shady - I would never buy a switch that requires subscriptions.
Yeah Cisco has been super shady for a while
@@marcogenovesi8570 wait until you hear about brocade
vxworks is linux??? do you mean wind river linux distro
Vxworks is not linux, Vxworks is vxworks, it's its own OS and has literally nothing to do with linux
@@lnx01 yea thaty why im putting those ???, he said its linux based on vxworks(at 5:13)
That console screen shows a linux boot sequence, from the uboot bootloader loading the kernel and initramfs to Linux's dmesg and then init system during boot. So that's an embedded Linux system. Not sure wtf is vxworks doing in the script but I blame Rett. He drank too much rainiers
Yea, just came down here to go wtf about this, they are two separate things, someone messed up on the script and something needs clarification on that.
@@Liny_Fox they might have mistaken vxworks with wind river linux a linux distro for embeded devices by same company that makes vxworks
I have a hard time using a switch that’s owned by a company out of hongkong, while agree the Cisco tax sucks at least you know your data isn’t being harvested at best or back doored at worst by the Chinese government
Um.... just gonna drop this here.
www.theregister.com/2019/05/02/cisco_vulnerabilities/
Unfortunately, gray market is a thing, homie
"or desktop if your being really weird about it". For some reason that made me LOL, I almost choked on the dunkaroos I stole from my kids snack bin.
I hook all my switches permanently to a terminal server because it reduces the chances that I need to visit the data centre
I was about to agree with your sentiment that gigabit should go but then you said *one thousand dollars* and I just saw gigabit last until 2040.
There’s a dual 10g 4 2.5g unmanaged switch all rj45. For $150
TP Link has a nice 5 RJ45 / port 10 GbE switch..!
@@mdd1963 but it’s only 1g this gnap one is perfect (my opinion) for a small homelab. 10g between host and file servers with 2.5g everywhere else
@@WillFuI it's okay but i wouldn't use it in a HL since it doesn't support VLANs
What's the service contract like? I'm willing to bet it's not as good as Cisco, Juniper, etc.
I wonder if Jeff will eventually get tired and won't be Jeff one of these days. :D
I was 'Not Ryan Reynolds' one time.
"or desktop if you're reallyweird about it" ... well guess i'm weird for doing it on my Desktop lol
Do they have anything to do with FS?
was asking that myself... the transceivers look identical and the website is basically the same with the logo swapped out
@@twei__ Agreed.
Yea... in an enterprise, I can tell you from years of experience, switches don't "just work"
10gbe should have become mainstream in 2013
Too bad it cost a fortune and most servers weren't equipped with it back then, huh?
Sweat, glad they didn't stupid registration stuff
Cisco would get mad at me if I didn't have a console cable on hand lol
Errbody gangsta til the SSH don't work...
Does the 10/100G switch do BGP? If not it's barely interesting
And why is that?
Does it matter if it can't route at 10/1000Gbs? Idk if it can, but the question remains
Normally if you're in 100G networking, you use a leaf spine architecture and route everything to overcome L2 limitations. 100G @L2 is imho not that useful or interesting.
only one problem with them - would you like to host your core network by Chinese Switch?
Trust but verify, like all things in networking and security.
Yeah this sounds a lot like a Huawei operation, make a good product for cheaper by taking government subsidies and get your backdoored stuff inside businnesses worldwide
og 3com.....switches.... 3com anyone? anyone?
My 24port switch in my rack is a 3com.
@@truckerallikatuk Nice. I finally down to size a more modern switch. That has vlan support.lost 12 ports in the process thru.
But end of day more newer switch and 75% less power draw
interesting 🤔
MikroTik please!!!
7:20 Coughs in 25 Gb/s FTTH 🙂.
I tore cisco out of my network
Ummmm... Mikrotik 2x100 & 16x25 for $1600? The CRS317 with 16x10 for $500?
Mikrotik has been around since the '90s, and their hardware is better than anything else in the same class. Their stuff is absolute workhorses. It's more capable, and cheaper...
I don't mind a guy making money, but there's better equipment for cheaper out there
I enjoy watching you, but this video really got me going. You're an influencer and to think you might lead lead some poor young IT manager to try to persuade the Director into choosing this over a 9300 is down right dangerous. The datasheet is 6 pages, I've seen some Netgear switches with more content then this document provides. I think I counted around 10 IEEE named standards. Not a mere mention of FCC, ISO or even UL certifications and that's just US Certs.. MIB's, I guess they don't know what they are, not a word. Stacking 8 switches with a 40Gbps interconnect, not even a backplane, seriously even the baby 9300 supports 1TBps, without using up a single preciouses QSFP port. You stack this correctly you won't end up with a single free 40G port. I'm guessing the X means it doesn't have a multicast routing table, how's that going to play out with a service provider? No IPv6 ACL's. The more I read, looks like they chose to use an X to indicate supported. Good choice, how's about a check mark, no let's use an X. The table column descriptions are on page 5 and the table is on page 6. If they can't spend the time to properly format a 6 page document, just imagine what other corners they've cut. I don't who in their right mind with any enterprise class networking experience would ever bet their job and most likely their career on installing this in their organization. I know this is the first time I've ever written a comment like this, in my 20+ years on TH-cam. This year I'll be celebrating my 25th year as a triple CCIE, don't spend 1 second looking at this product.
You are spot on. Totally apples to oranges when compared to Cisco. Since it's running Linux, how secure is the kernel? Does it calls home? What about support? Do they have a 24x7 TAC? 4hr RMA? SLA an escalations on support cases? How often security vulnerabilities are published and fixed? It would be career suicide to install this in an enterprise environment. Good for SMB at most.
...I thought I was pretty specific when I said this would be excellent in SMBs with annual budgets of less than $200K.
If you're an IT guy and blindly buy something without reading the spec sheet to see if it fits your organizational requirements, that's on you. My job as an 'influencer' in this space is to show you products, not decide what is right for your specific use cases.
It's funny reading comments by actual network guys and engineers versus a bunch of parrots. Lol
Use this stuff at home, kids. Not your place of work.
fyi sound sounds unbalanced!
Rip it? Out? Be gentle.
😂😂 just $1000 to upgrade home network .. jef, make money away from us bro ... we can barely afford our food shopping now a days ... have a wonderful paid promotional materials
no teardown ;( i want to see those pcb mask easter eggs damnit