In the future vise your barrel not the upper. All the torque being applied to align you muzzle device is being applied to the aluminium upper at the index pin on your barrel. While you may not damage it the chance does exist that steel pin could deform your aluminium or shift the barrel alignment in the upper.
Should have put the hand guard on last, Put the barrel in a vise with barrel jaws then timed the brake. Put way too much stress on the upper receiver doing it this way.
Upside down Here is what the manufacturer says, amongst others and what looks like common sense to me if you just look at the flash hider you have 1 of 3 main jest shooting right up in front of ur line of sight.."For VG6 muzzle devices the proper 12 o’clock position is opposite of the laser engraving found on the muzzle device." I know but it's a epsilon well guess what it is b4 that a vg6 per the name the lazer Mark's go down and long skinny slits are DOWN small holes up, go read it urself
Thank you for real. This really helped out with my first build I started earlier today and I was looking at mine like wtf won't you work and then I watched this and boom, perfect.
May I ask a newbie question? I saw that people cleaned their muzzle breaks. If you locked it on, it would be a hassle to clean this break right? Or people do not need to clean their muzzle breaks on AR 15? Thank you in advance for this help!
Just clean the barrel. I imagine if you got the break dirty enough and you had to clean it you can get pretty precise with cleaning it while leaving the break on. I wouldn’t take it off to clean it.
Nope, that's the correct orientation. Flash hiders don't usually redirect the flash but work by cooling and/or dispersing the burning gases so they don't ignite in a fireball. The standard A2 birdcage flash hider is one of the best and for instance has 5 slits across the top. One of which is direct at the 12 'o'clock position. "Extended flash hiding prongs and no ports at the 12 o'clock positions allow uninhibited view from flash through optics or sights." They are referring to the compensating ports on this muzzle device, not the flash hiding prongs. The compensating ports are at the 11 and 1 o'clock positions but as you can see, there are no ports at the 12 o'clock position. Your compensating ports go up and your logo goes down along with your pin hole. If not, you're increasing the muzzle rise of your weapon, not reducing it.
Should have bought a Miculek brake. It ranked 3rd, out of over 100 brakes, in recoil. Plus, it's only $40. There's a guy on TH-cam that compares them all(pretty much). I'm gonna see where this one ranks... Edit: I just checked. This one ranks #11, with 59% recoil reduction. The Miculek is #3, with 67% recoil reduction. So... Not a bad choice, because this one may not be as loud, as the Miculek.
@@krismartin1181 Yeah for whatever reason, a bunch of people seem to think the logo is supposed to go up because they don't understand that the direction of the prongs has nothing to do with their flash hiding capability. Anyone installing it logo up is literally increasing the muzzle rise as the compensating ports are facing downward at the 5 and 7 o'clock positions instead of the correct 11 and 1 o'clock.
Mine was at the 11 O clock position when I hand tightened. So I had to go a a bit more than a half turn with the wrench. Thankfully I have the innovative and convenient BEV block. Also had a Pittsburgh click toque wrench set to 40 ft lbs. Never got a click so I think its properly seated.
The problem with VG6 is no good way to index to make sure the brake top is in perfect alignment with the barrel. I had the same issue with my 6.5 CM VG6 brake.
Nope, that's the correct orientation. Flash hiders don't usually redirect the flash but work by cooling and/or dispersing the burning gases so they don't ignite in a fireball. The standard A2 birdcage flash hider is one of the best and for instance has 5 slits across the top. One of which is direct at the 12 'o'clock position.
@@TripleTapHK Actually, Ryan G. is correct. The point of it being installed logo up is for the pronged flash hider portion. You don't want the flash directed upward into the optics plane. The features on their website describe this. See here www.vg6precision.com/vg6-epsilon-556
@@stugant220 Actually, he is still wrong and so are you. "Extended flash hiding prongs and no ports at the 12 o'clock positions allow uninhibited view from flash through optics or sights." They are referring to the compensating ports on this muzzle device, not the flash hiding prongs. The compensating ports are at the 11 and 1 o'clock positions but as you can see, there are no ports at the 12 o'clock position. Your compensating ports go up and your logo goes down along with your pin hole. If not, you're increasing the muzzle rise of your weapon, not reducing it. Again, flash hiding has nothing to do with the direction of gasses but is all about cooling the gasses. As stated before, the A2 flash hider for example is one of the best and has the ports facing up. This is first and foremost a compensator, flash mitigation is a secondary feature. It just has flash hider prongs to help with the flash. It's still quite bright.
@@TripleTapHK According to their website, "The VG6 Epsilon 556 carries many of the same characteristics as the Gamma 556 with a few exceptions. Extended flash hiding prongs and no ports at the 12 o'clock positions allow uninhibited view from flash through optics or sights. The difference in porting is also noticed on the underside of the device where it has 6 valve holes to allow the fastest gasses reaching the second chamber to exit. This creates very soft low energy recoil that allows for absolute control." So, this explanation puts it logo up. If you want, I can call them and ask them how it's supposed to be.
@@stugant220 The 6 valve holes are not the same as the compensating ports which are the slots. The 6 holes which are on the second chamber per the description, are on the logo side. Which is the bottom. I would rather you call them then keep trying to tell me I'm wrong. Just trying to keep bad information out of other peoples hands.
I initially thought it was upside down when I first installed mine. But he actually have it installed the right way. You don't have to take my word for it, but check out the video below. th-cam.com/video/AND2jwpzZ9A/w-d-xo.html
In the future vise your barrel not the upper. All the torque being applied to align you muzzle device is being applied to the aluminium upper at the index pin on your barrel. While you may not damage it the chance does exist that steel pin could deform your aluminium or shift the barrel alignment in the upper.
this is true and when it happens, you risk your bcg malfunctioning and getting stuck.
Yea he was twisting that barrel up pretty good while having the vice so far away
Should have put the hand guard on last, Put the barrel in a vise with barrel jaws then timed the brake. Put way too much stress on the upper receiver doing it this way.
WarHammer went to the comment section looking for this exact comment, i also agree, cant be good on the upper
Strongly recommend Barrel Spline Socket Rod for this installation.
I've seen a few of these installed upside down (logo up). When in doubt read the directions.
I laugh everytime I watch people put this on upside down. You figure by looking at the muzzle device that it would be self explanatory.
these have holes on the top and bottom. and the "bottom" especially on the 5.56 ones is where the writing is.
Holes are always on the bottom for prone shooting in the dirt
Is this California legal muzzle brake?
So mine is installed upside down..... Is it a problem removing it and reinstalling? Do i need a new crush washer?
Rule of thumb is a crush washer is single use. If you are planning to remove the muzzle device and reinstall it, you will want a new crush washer.
@@kevkev5935 thank you!!
Upside down Here is what the manufacturer says, amongst others and what looks like common sense to me if you just look at the flash hider you have 1 of 3 main jest shooting right up in front of ur line of sight.."For VG6 muzzle devices the proper 12 o’clock position is opposite of the laser engraving found on the muzzle device." I know but it's a epsilon well guess what it is b4 that a vg6 per the name the lazer Mark's go down and long skinny slits are DOWN small holes up, go read it urself
Thank you for real. This really helped out with my first build I started earlier today and I was looking at mine like wtf won't you work and then I watched this and boom, perfect.
Me
What is that liquid you put on the before u put on the vg6? Thanks for the video
He used Rocksett which is a high temp thread locking compound.
It's called NOT NEEDED
@@stevehardeman7209 yep,that shit aint goin nowhere lol
Just a dab (Uses whole bottle.) 😅
does crush washer have to be totally flat against barrel or is 1/16" OK between crush washer and barrel? the emblem is facing down..
If you apply enough torque to flatten a crush washer you got way too much torque..shouldn't need more than 50 ft lbs.
Thanks. That was easy.
May I ask a newbie question? I saw that people cleaned their muzzle breaks. If you locked it on, it would be a hassle to clean this break right? Or people do not need to clean their muzzle breaks on AR 15? Thank you in advance for this help!
Just clean the barrel. I imagine if you got the break dirty enough and you had to clean it you can get pretty precise with cleaning it while leaving the break on. I wouldn’t take it off to clean it.
No
Its upside down...
No, it's not. You are.
Thank you so much for posting this video. I was unsure about the crush washer orientation.
Glad to help ☺
You just torqued against your upper? No go.
It's in an upper vice block.
What is Rock Set???....should have mentioned that!...is it some kind of lock tight?...anti seize?
It is basically a hi-heat loctite, you can order that same stuff he shows in the video straight from the manufactor.
It's in the hardware store on the waste of time aisle . If anything use a tiny bit of anti seize
I think it up side down....
Nope, that's the correct orientation. Flash hiders don't usually redirect the flash but work by cooling and/or dispersing the burning gases so they don't ignite in a fireball. The standard A2 birdcage flash hider is one of the best and for instance has 5 slits across the top. One of which is direct at the 12 'o'clock position.
"Extended flash hiding prongs and no ports at the 12 o'clock positions allow uninhibited view from flash through optics or sights." They are referring to the compensating ports on this muzzle device, not the flash hiding prongs. The compensating ports are at the 11 and 1 o'clock positions but as you can see, there are no ports at the 12 o'clock position. Your compensating ports go up and your logo goes down along with your pin hole. If not, you're increasing the muzzle rise of your weapon, not reducing it.
@@TripleTapHK 👊👍
Should have bought a Miculek brake. It ranked 3rd, out of over 100 brakes, in recoil. Plus, it's only $40. There's a guy on TH-cam that compares them all(pretty much). I'm gonna see where this one ranks... Edit: I just checked. This one ranks #11, with 59% recoil reduction. The Miculek is #3, with 67% recoil reduction. So... Not a bad choice, because this one may not be as loud, as the Miculek.
I own the j.m brake as on another AR platform as well which performs ok
If you watch in that video it was upside down it should have done better
@@krismartin1181 Yeah for whatever reason, a bunch of people seem to think the logo is supposed to go up because they don't understand that the direction of the prongs has nothing to do with their flash hiding capability. Anyone installing it logo up is literally increasing the muzzle rise as the compensating ports are facing downward at the 5 and 7 o'clock positions instead of the correct 11 and 1 o'clock.
Mine was at the 11 O clock position when I hand tightened. So I had to go a a bit more than a half turn with the wrench. Thankfully I have the innovative and convenient BEV block. Also had a Pittsburgh click toque wrench set to 40 ft lbs.
Never got a click so I think its properly seated.
He is correct. Here is the parent company's installation video:
th-cam.com/video/AND2jwpzZ9A/w-d-xo.html
RTFM
Label faces down.
The problem with VG6 is no good way to index to make sure the brake top is in perfect alignment with the barrel. I had the same issue with my 6.5 CM VG6 brake.
That is True
Small bar stock flat steel rod through the largest port. Place small magnetic machinist level on the rod
Isn't that timed upside down? Don't you want to time it so the flash hider prongs vent the gas away from the 12 o'clock position?
Nope, that's the correct orientation. Flash hiders don't usually redirect the flash but work by cooling and/or dispersing the burning gases so they don't ignite in a fireball. The standard A2 birdcage flash hider is one of the best and for instance has 5 slits across the top. One of which is direct at the 12 'o'clock position.
@@TripleTapHK Actually, Ryan G. is correct. The point of it being installed logo up is for the pronged flash hider portion. You don't want the flash directed upward into the optics plane. The features on their website describe this. See here www.vg6precision.com/vg6-epsilon-556
@@stugant220 Actually, he is still wrong and so are you. "Extended flash hiding prongs and no ports at the 12 o'clock positions allow uninhibited view from flash through optics or sights." They are referring to the compensating ports on this muzzle device, not the flash hiding prongs. The compensating ports are at the 11 and 1 o'clock positions but as you can see, there are no ports at the 12 o'clock position. Your compensating ports go up and your logo goes down along with your pin hole. If not, you're increasing the muzzle rise of your weapon, not reducing it.
Again, flash hiding has nothing to do with the direction of gasses but is all about cooling the gasses. As stated before, the A2 flash hider for example is one of the best and has the ports facing up. This is first and foremost a compensator, flash mitigation is a secondary feature. It just has flash hider prongs to help with the flash. It's still quite bright.
@@TripleTapHK According to their website, "The VG6 Epsilon 556 carries many of the same characteristics as the Gamma 556 with a few exceptions. Extended flash hiding prongs and no ports at the 12 o'clock positions allow uninhibited view from flash through optics or sights. The difference in porting is also noticed on the underside of the device where it has 6 valve holes to allow the fastest gasses reaching the second chamber to exit. This creates very soft low energy recoil that allows for absolute control." So, this explanation puts it logo up. If you want, I can call them and ask them how it's supposed to be.
@@stugant220 The 6 valve holes are not the same as the compensating ports which are the slots. The 6 holes which are on the second chamber per the description, are on the logo side. Which is the bottom. I would rather you call them then keep trying to tell me I'm wrong. Just trying to keep bad information out of other peoples hands.
Upside down bro. Hahaha
I initially thought it was upside down when I first installed mine. But he actually have it installed the right way. You don't have to take my word for it, but check out the video below.
th-cam.com/video/AND2jwpzZ9A/w-d-xo.html
No it's not bro. hahahahha
Great video sir!