Who Can Survive A Buffered Airdodge At Ledge? - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
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- Buffering an airdodge and SD'ing feels terrible, but some characters can survive.
The stages with higher bottom blastzones (listed at the end of the video) might not let you jump before your airdodge ends, which is why Inkling can SD on Town & City even though they can make it back on Battlefield.
Songs:
Banjo & Kazooie Main Theme [SSBU Remix]
Treasure Trove Cove [SSBU Remix]
Spiral Mountain [SSBU Remix]
Clips are from / vgbootcamp - เกม
The stages with higher bottom blastzones (listed at the end of the video) might not let you jump before your airdodge ends, which is why Inkling can SD on Town & City even though they can make it back on Battlefield.
Songs:
Banjo & Kazooie Main Theme [SSBU Remix]
Treasure Trove Cove [SSBU Remix]
Spiral Mountain [SSBU Remix]
I regret to inform the ladies and gentlemen of the comments section that Banjo CAN in fact make it to the ledge: twitter.com/HeeewwWin/status/1169442695007363072
In my haste to get this video out, I didn't lab out all the possibilities.
It also depends on if they've buffered the airdodge before or after using their jumps and where the air dodge
You forgot to test this with Sans
Does using Mii Brawler with Feint Jump as Down B and Burning Drop Kick as Side B not help either? Those are his other recovery moves
@@PracticalTAS I'm pretty sure Corrin could make it if he'd Side-B against the wall.
Actually Ganon can make it
The way you can do it is by falling all the way to the bottom platform, seeing a small explosion, then he reappears on a floating platform at the top of the screen, easy peasy
Best recovery in the game
I've never once failed it in my life as a Ganon main.
I didn't know Ganon could use zoom.. I'll try this next time
Animations 300 stars
I gotta try this out while I'm in a tourney on my last stock now
“I’m gonna save some runtime and just say that the echo fighters are identical to their counterparts” This is already the best of this type of video
he uses his air dodge at rhe start you undercooked onion
@@aceofdarts68 this is my new favorite phrase
Echo Space you can make your own comment you don’t have to reply
@@largin386 ...yes it does. See those three dots on the right? Try tapping them.
@@2cents98 lul
Chrom: "How about *THIS*?"
*immediately dies*
I'll edge you!
5:28
*THIS* ? Give a space dude
@@heriknogueiracezar8945 XD
@@heriknogueiracezar8945 If the TH-cam comment system was actually good, we wouldn't have to worry about leaving a space.
“Squirtle can make it back if he holds back on up b” If he didn’t, he’d shoot up miles past the top blast zone
He’s always holding back, you’ve never seen him at full power
That pfp tho
what’s morgana doing...
Umi 10:45 that’s incorrect you can actually make it you just have to say the N-word right before doing your up B
what are you even doing morgana?
like what are you doing?
Finally, an actual “Can your character do X” that I can actually apply to my gameplay! Like, when am I going to be using Dokey Kong to fly around a ball of lava in a custom stage, in a tournament?
ha ha i get it
(i don't get it)
Borja Arellano Basically those “who can jump across hyrule temple” type of things.
You will pick a character depending on whether they can survive an accidental buffered airdodge?
@@phigaro_ no, but this video allows you to know if the fighter you are using in a tournament can survive if you do a buffered airdodge, which can potentially save you a stock
MrPine Do you not understand his point...?
7:40 Now's your chance Squirtle!
*Dies*
He says it so dissapointed too..
Ffs ok ok,, sure squirtle, just... just fucking go ... god ... dammit
Mario: failed
Luigi: succeed
Explain to me sir
Little Mac: *has little to no air game whatsoever*
*Also has one of the best wall jumps in the game*
Well, the wall isn't the air, so I guess its fine.
Alex Huey humans can’t double jump well in real life but we can do parkour and wall jumps could be considered a part of that little mac is basically a human like ones in real life trained to peak performance
One of?
Donovan Mahan I think lucario is better ( was that way in smash four)
Link can climb and can actually jump of walls in his game but he can't wall jump or wall cling
Meta knight is just like: 🅱
Was playing Brawl earlier today. My sister left the room due to my ability to fly under the stage forever.
@@CookieGal- let me guess, when she came back you still hadn't touched the floor?
@@devilishjester7718 When she came back I was playing Subspace Emmisary. It had been 45 minutes.
so meta knight B like B
🅱⬆⬇↔
seeing meta knight recovering easy like this for some reason gives me brawl flashbacks
Cool how his recovery(ies) is still the best in the game, it's so versatile!
Nintendo Lover™ *laughs in pikachu*
Redstone Watcher Meta Knights recovery is still better than pikas, he can go under the entirety of FD without even using a special, and due to all 4 of his specials being able to be used for recovery, it’s incredibly versatile. Pika does have some decent recovery however
Digino24 “decent” is very underestimate, if meta knight bests pikachu, then pikachu is the second best. Quick Attack is a broken recovery, and he made it back to the other side of the stage after an airdodge at ledge.
Redstone Watcher Well, my language is weird lmao. Decent in my mind is quite good, I use the word quite often lol. Pikas recovery is amazing though
Gotta love it when these videos don’t have 3-4 taunts after every attempt including failures and multiple methods.
Mario: You're weak.
Dr. Mario: I'm you.
Characters can make it with wall jumps
corrin's side b: "am i a joke to you?"
I feel that
ngl i kinda got salty from this
You can't press it in time
@@Thebadlamp Jump, side-b into a wall, then up-b. Easy win.
Thank you for making this comment for me
Practical TAS: Hah, Fire Emblem characters could never make it
Robin: Observe
*Laughs in Corrin's pin
@@t4m471 byleth: dies of laughter
@@isaacjoshdcruz558 More like Byleth: *Stony expression shows a brief glint of mirth*
I kid because I love.
Cause Robin is the one FE character in smash that doesn't play like a different variation of Mii Swordfighter.
@@co5micwaffle742 Corrin and Byleth are also fairly different. I know people say Corrin is boring and too similar to the other FE characters, but...have those people ever actually played as Corrin?
Everyone: tries their best to do it
Meta knight: Amateurs
ganondorf:
*Y O U F O O L S !*
I don't think Isabelle and R.O.B. were even trying here
Jiggly
Wow, one of these videos that's actually practical and interesting. Doesn't waste time with echo fighters either.
Good stuff.
The only thing... That bothers me is the tethers. Obvious tether fails are kinda pointless
Hi ily
@FREDERICK TAY he didnt put un lucina, who is the only marth clone, so who do you mean?
@FREDERICK TAY well ike isn't that similar to marth, he has a pretty different moveset and feel to him. Roy is more of a semi-clone now(way different from melee), but idk all the moves that are different but i know thare are some(and also the hilt hits are stronger mechanic)
Now lucina and chrom are the only real "clones" of characters but obviously they arent "stealing" slots from other characters.like it wasnt a "do we add chrom or waluigi?" Situation, but more a "chrom or no chrom?" One(you can see he was pretty last minute since he is still on robin's final smah/victory screen lol)
Tldr;chrom and lucina are the only real clones and roy is the only semi-clone
@FREDERICK TAY its cool, i just thought you meant it when you said it. Sorry for misunderstanding
Mario:fails without wall
Sonic:passes easily
Mario:*Angry italian noises*
Underrated
Welp, like what they have once said..
"SEGA does what Nintendon't"
Luigi: Succeeds without wall
Mario: So we got some competition eh bro?
@@TotallyNotGhost not really
Sonic is underrated.
So Pikachu was wearing Terry's hat the whole time...
Most characters: either struggle making it or can make it with one or two moves
Meta Knight: *P A T H E T I C*
edit since yall dont seem to get it: its about how many moves meta night can use to recover, not about how good one move is
Recovery: the character
Rob: A M E T U E R S
Nintendo Lover™ yes
Laird Marsh rob: *eye literally glow red*
Kirby: *laughs in poyo*
My favorite part of this vid is the line “there are no rules, this is life and death” you’re so right and so many other channels don’t get that there are no rules for a bad perdicament in a real game
Wall: Exists.
Little Mac: *It's Free Real Estate.*
Me: sees meta knight
Also me: Here we go again with his recovery options...
I don't know why I always watch these videos in their entirety, but I can never help myself.
please keep making this easy watching ultimate content so that I may passively consume some more
hi
Same, I just stay watching all the video and idk why...
hey how are you doing Pichu
@@borjaarellano9966 hi i agree with DeadMan
>Inkling survives buffered Air dodge.
So Cosmos is just bad.
Hah bad
As an inkling main I can confirm that buffered air dodges in actual gameplay is lethal.
Maybe he didn't have an air jump.
He used his double-jump before getting hit and buffering the air dodge.
It's the stage that has smaller blast zone at the bottom
To anyone curious for an update with the newer DLC characters, I just tested them out myself:
- Terry *can't* make it
- Byleth *can* make it fairly easily by grappling onto the bottom/side of the stage
- Min Min *can't* make it; her tether doesn't reach far enough
- Steve *can't* make it; he falls too far to be able to place blocks, and using the minecart doesn't help
- Sephiroth *can* make it with Winged Form, but just barely can't if it's not active
- Mythra *can't* make it, which means Pyra obviously can't either
There’s an op Steve recovery that I believe may work.
Steve can make it
Sora can too
Fun fact: Little Mac has the best wall jump in the game
No, lucario does. Go into a custom stage with highest walls and see who can make it with less jumps. Lucario will win
@@zaneasadi1867 he was ferering to the fact that little mac goes further with only one wall jump
I am honestly surprised link does not have a wall jump and I am mad about it😡😡😡😡😡😡
Thank you johnny joestar for the info
@@jadenbarnes2863 Luigi
I saw that Banjo has an infinite recovery on Twitter from Heeew
Can you share the link? I can't find anything on his Twitter account.
@Jayden Koch but he doesn't say "There!" so snake is automatically better
I heard it's not infinite because he uses 1 jump at a time and the that's its
@Jayden Koch Thanks, I'm glad someone sent me the link, I looked on the wrong Twitter account and I didn't get the notification, so I found it before seeing your comment.
@@TobySullivan You're right because the next ones require midair jumps to grab it.
You forgot to include Sans's recovery.
TheBlitz fr what’s with the descrimination
lol
He won't make it, naturally the recovery sucks, and idk if you can switch it to be good
LOL
@The True Lads!, yea it doesn't look like it's good for air dodging off stage at all
i think that corrin can make it if he use the side b on the wall and moves the stick upwards, then use jump + up b
grixoz you should be able to, in sm4sh you could recover from a suicide dair as long as the stage had a side wall
you say "he" like anyone plays the male Corrin
@Nathan Mang He's referring to the default characters/costumes, just like we refer to Pokémon Trainer, Villager & Robin as "he", Wii Fit Trainer & Inkling as "she" and we talk about Olimar & Bowser Jr. but not Alph & the Koopalings. Besides, there are loads of people such as myself who play as male Corrin.
@@nihiluna now you can recover from a suicide down air with out a wall if you're precise. god bless corrin buffs.
@@STHFan1992 Until i see a male Corrin in Elite Smash or in a tourney, then I'll count them all as a she
Robin is just the odd one in the Fire Emblem category.
Laughs in Byleth
@@allingbrodniak8819 yeah, who would've known the future would tell me "yes but actually no"
He's also the good one. Or at least the best one, the others are fine.
@@brandonbombplays9304 To be fair, simply because he has range unlike nearly everyone else in the Fire Emblem category, he's automatically better. Otherwise Byleth and Ike exist, one having a bit more range than your typical swordsman and the other being capable of closing the distance and recovering horizontally.
Yeah, I was just stating my opinion.
Watching video for buffered air dodges: Broke
Watching video for flawless Banjo-Kazooie Music: Woke
Finally someone who understands me!
7:40 “Now you’re dead, Squirtle!”
Zero Suit: *Fails twice and requires wall jump*
Also Zero Suit: “Is that all?”
Practical TAS: * Shows meta knight *
Brawl Veterens: "I can't, not again, im not strong enough"
Bruh every brawl player mained meta knight
Wow, a jumping challenge where Snake doesn’t have to explode himself!
8:24
Sonic: *don't try this at home guys*
That Luigi line was a joke right? He has nuts recovery in comparison to what it looks like he can cover
He has pretty good distance, but it's super exploitable.
Ever since he lost cyclone his recovery has become way more linear. It doesn’t take much edgeguarding to knock him out and no you have no risk of getting cyclone gimped.
no it wasnt a joke, luigi has a horrible and incredibly exploitable recovery in this game, he basically cant recover sideways because up b has no horizontal momentum and he also has no airspeed. Side b has so much endlag and you could literally just throw out a hitbox and he dies
@@zFunnyBoy_ yeah but you can mix up your recovery a lot more than it seems by different charge times and even cyclone if u mash I just make sure to save my jump his recovery isn't the best but it's not as bad as everyone makes it seem
charging side b is still not a threat as its extremely predictable and literally every character can knock him out of it. You can even intentionally get hit by the side b because that will just give luigi a harder time getting back to stage. Cyclone doesnt help at all, no matter how much you mash, it isnt going to work, and in most scenarios its just making him go lower because of the endlag of the cyclone afterwards. I will say his vertical recovery is pretty good (shown in the video) but his horizontal recovery is just abysmal and easily the biggest thing holding him down in this game
I had a dream that Dr. Mario’s recovery got better, I am not lying
Waking up must've been a nightmare
I once had a dream where Mewtwo got buffed
AngryChicken Waking up is a nightmare every day, my friend.
Michael Dublanko bro that hit different
@@foreman_spike ok now it has gone so far lol
5:33
All the flashbacks of mis-inputting side-b are coming back
3:56 I learned this the hard way during a tournament, much to spectators’ delight. I never returned.
Jump backwards with wolf and use his side b, requires a wall and good timing but I did pull it off
For anyone wondering you need to clip the wall with your side b as it can glitch and move you up some
I feel like Meta Knight mains should start a "buffer bait" where they buffered air dodge off of ledge only to punish and return to stage.
*Said as someone who hardly watches the game's competitive scene and only occasionally watches it casually, also doesn't have a Switch to play.
It shows.
An opponet who knows meta knight's recovery(ies) hardly tries to gimp him in the first place, however this can be useful against beginners (or who doesn't know MK at all)
Btw, most players with a buffered airdodge usually dont have a double-jump
ZSS can probably do it on normally without a walljump if she jumped first then flip kicked off the wall
6:15 WRONG you had to go the other way around the stage with Meta Knight
Naw he had to go above the stage than to the ledge
From the other side of the stage ofc
As a pac main, I already know how many ways he can succeed
@SorryButYouAreWrong I edited it myself
"Fire Emblem can't jump"
Robin: Hold my Levin Sword
It'd be nice if doc shaved off some end lag on down b because then it could be a really useful tool for combos and actually recover without him D dropping before he can up b
At least down-B kills pretty early. I'd rather they just make up-B go a bit farther
Meta knight the character to even MIX UP his recovery after an air dodge off stage😂
Little Mac: tries without wall
Everyone: *_intense laughing_*
SuperStamps Music
Yeah, he’s got shit air game. Funny.
"I am going to save some runtime and just say that echo fighters are identical to their counterparts"
Finally a "who can...?" video that gets it!
0:25
Well in that case let’s do the warpstar.
“Are you seeing a walljump pattern?”
*dr. Mario cries*
Thx for this awesome vid glad links make it big ocarina of time fan
7:30
I love how Leaf/Green just cheers as Red's Charizard gets KO'd
Kazuya has really highlighted the problem with the buffer system. You WILL airdodge past ledge during his 10 hit combo
1:50 at least you're aware that Kirby fans are this sensitive about his character
Yeah, Little Mac's walljump is super strong. For some reason.
It fits; his most powerful attacks rely on his legs as much as his arms. That's why he's so bad in the air (ignoring character design).
@@delta3244 I mean he also had to have one way to make it back on stage on stages with walls since his recovery is so ass near walls it makes me sigh at how painful it is to watch
14:31 That majestic roar sends shivers down my spine.
Thanks for the idea! As I type this I am writing my first college paper on the implementation of the buffer in Ultimate.
Finally, a relevant "who can survive" video.
apparently someone already found an infinite jump as Banjo technique.
You gotta use the grenade egg, but if done over and over in the air, he can clear the ceiling.
Great to have you in Sydney man, keep it up
When all your mains make it with relative levels of ease: *I see no God here other than me*
Ganon can live trust me you just don’t understand the character well enough
Dat6uy the only thing ganon is king of in ultimate is sd-ing
All you need is your opponent to go in for the disrespect and grab them with up special
@@christiancasaverdepertica1802 As a Ganon main, I laughed at how true this statement is
"and many others jokes you can tell to yourself"
@@MK_Dany lmaooo
Corrin can make it with a wall, and Banjo can make it with an air dodge.
But he can't when the air dodge is used already
@@Churrros yes he can
@@ElpoliCR I know he can buy you only have one air dodge, this is in the situation in which you accidentally buffer an air dodge which takes that one dodge away so he can't
@@Churrros if this is true, K have to test it!
@@ElpoliCR did you test it? The only way to get your air dodge back is by getting hit
i love the banjo & kazooie ost and the video is quite good as well, liked
Corrin can probably make it using the wall and her side be pin jump into up b
Can banjo make it if he: pulls out a grenade, up-b's, double double-jumps, have the grenade explode, and up-b's again?
Yes he can.
I was thinking a directional air dodge up would push him into making it without the bomb egg.
Mike twat He already used an air dodge for this challenge, so he can't use second air dodge unless he either gets hit or lands on the ground.
Oh you're right, I didn't even think about that.
Peach and Daisy could probably survive with a bob-omb
This seems highly relevant now with the amount of players I see buffer air dodge by accident out of Kazuya's 10 hit combo at the ledge... myself included lmao
Great vid as usual, only wish you took of the combo display so we could better see how the characters move down below
Banjo can make it without grenade, he just has to double jump, up B, and Air dodge
he already air dodged
4:25 could’ve made if you didn’t do the side b
I had to click off this video once I saw that stupidity
Marth can do it, and you have to use his side b and be extremely precise
CameramanI88 god forbid somebody makes a mistake xd
@@Lordecai I was being ignorant and harsh when I made that comment. I actually don't think Marth can come back from a buffered directional air dodge at ledge. If he can though, I feel that doing the side B doesn't help get any more height because you have to wait a moment before inputting the up B afterwards
Everyone: fire emblem characters don't have good recoveries!
Me: laughs in robin and corrin
1:43 well yeah Kirby can survive it since he has learned the Air Dodge from Melee and used that technique since triple deluxe and So on
Meta: *presses the b button
*Recovers*
1:57 that sentence looks like its in the english textbook to learn how to pronounce f
As somebody who went to speech therapy for stuttering and The sounds
That's true and I hate it
I love how Chrom is like "How about this?" like he's talking to the viewer who lost faith in him even before his turn
thanks for not putting the annoying “success” and “failure” sounds and testing techniques that can be practical
You're right if you'd failed with Kirby a lot of butthurt Kirby fans would be on you lol.
i wished he did it honestly
Hey! Not all Kirby fans are like that you know..
LazyKirby57 im a kirby fan myself and im sure you are too and im definitely sure that both of us arent like that. But kirby is probably the most loved character in smash and kirby means a lot to them, which means a lot of people that like him would be butthurt. Of course this applies to every character in the game, but its often most associated with kirby
@@zFunnyBoy_ ohh. Okay I get it
Sorry to both of you guys I wasn't trying to be rude writing this comment I hate Kirby in smash but I love Kirby everywhere else.
2 ads at the start and 3 midroll ads
I hate channels that do this, but times are tough making youtube vids so i respect the hustle
Minor suggestion, if you don't want the echo fighters to feel too left out, you could include them as the P2 for their counterparts' segments! Really handy vid tho, nice and concise.
Practical tas:no riots for you.
Me a warmonger: Kirby can make it with no jump
Lets be honest, we just wanted to see if our mains and banjo could make it.
I came here for Pit. I seriously have recovered from the blast zone with a well angled up b and no jumps and knew he would make it. I'm more worried about getting two framed than not covering distance lil
Robin is best Fire Emblem character, done
Hey Practical Chas, I have a question. In a lot of Smash World Tournaments, they play on the Animal Crossing world, and that has a flatter underside that’s battlefield, so I just wanted to wonder if you buffer dodge toward the other side of the stage under, if you could make it to the other side with certain characters
"Why do I even bother testing ganon
Me:Because you tested doc
Now I know I can safely buffer Airdodge (Luigi Main here)
Banjo can totally make if you airdodge up
you cant air dodge twice
@@elitetweet he can if he uses grenegg, grabs it and waits long enought in air then he has both his up b and airdodge again
@@Vinn0 pretty sure he cant catch the grenade in time even if he drifts to the left/right to catch it
1:50 I laughed really hard at that because i remembered Kirby has a lot of bias in the community
Love all the Banjo Kazooie music
Erhm "No rules" So that means everyone can make it using the Bunny cap
The One or launch star
So Peach and Daisy have a (very) low chance of pulling out a Bomb-omb instead of a Turnip, so
HE CAN SET BOB-OMBS IN ITEM MENU
2:26 it makes sense since Luigi can jump higher than Mario
Every video no matter the concept (this concept is nice and helpful, ty) becomes a vertical or horizontal recovery (walljump's occasionally) tier list.
marth'd do it if you didnt use that side b lol
Nah Marths side special gives him some extra distance. You gain a bit from using it right after a jump.
@@timelim6053 but it still has endlag
so if marth didnt use it he would still make it
No he wouldn’t have lol
Who is mii gunner
He got replaced with sans
You did doc dirty! He might not have made it but that was not optimal doctor Mario recovery
Nice vid imma subscribe