that was sooo much fun to watch! Those pac10 guard battles back then when Kidd went against Stanford, Arizona, etc. Brevin Knight was from my town, so I watched all those epic battles against J.Kidd, Damon Stoudamire, Khalid Reeves. Those games (& the BigEast Conference) made me a super fan of college basketball and follow their nba careers. You don't understand (I know u probably do) how great those guards were. J. Kidd was so big/fast/strong/smart, it was amazing how he absolutely dominated the game without shooting/scoring! #salute #brickcity
J.Kidd was also ambidextrous with both his handle and passing. 6’5 stronger, quicker, faster and moved laterally far better then Nash. Kidd was also the triple double man in his era. Nash was a better scorer and had a little flashier game. Over all I’d take J Kidd’s basketball iq and overall game over Nash’s scoring.
Nash did better, score more 30+ point games in double-doubles with high efficiency then Kidd’s typical 15-10-10 triple doubles with poor efficient while competing in the Tougher West Conf... I’ll take Nash > Kidd
Steve Nash was my favorite player in the league for a number of years. I think offensively he was a more polished player and had a better off the ball game when the situations arose. However, Jason's ability to guard, rebound and the fact that he could brutalize most guys his size or smaller on the box so he was like a miniature center, gives him a verrrry slight edge. IMO. Also, with Kidd there's the What If of his knee injury. He was just getting going at an executive level when he sustained the injury. He came back from it but who knows how dominant he would have been. That was right when he had started looking to score more. Plus, he was top 2 or 3 one on one defending PGs in the league. But either way, they were both on some next level vision and delivery stuff.
Jason Kidd was about 4in away in height to being as great as Magic or even better because I believe he was able to play the floor even better than Magic, but still great and my favorite pg of all time. His ability to anticipate and just foresee things before it happened was just off the charts. Very reminiscent of Larry Bird, who was also very very aware of everything going on around him.
Kidd & Nash were great point guards during the 2000s. Both were phenomenal passers. Nash was a better shooter but Kidd was a better defender, two way player, & helped the Mavs in the title in 2011. Kidd also led the Nets to back to back finals appearances. They had to hide Nash on defense in Phoenix. I’m going with Jason Kidd over Nash
Be Great. Etch Your Name. I disagree. I believe Nash was the better point guard. Kidd going back to back NBA Finals would never happen if he had played in the West. We know Sacramento was the better matchup vs the Lakers...
Kidd is also a defensive stopper but Nash will give you points efficiently as well as assists playmaking that looked more better then Kidd’s playmaking abilities.
@@N8veJay kidd can play in many different systems and the results were the same. Nash needed a specific system and the correct collection of players to maximize his skills. I'm going with the more versatile player.
The great Mark Price was doing what Steve Nash was doing back in the mid to late 80s and early 90s. Mark Price was great at splitting the pick and roll and some say he used to make the two defenders that were trapping the pick and roll bump heads when he split them. Mark was the reason why Kevin Johnson couldnt get off the bench in Cleveland so they traded him to Phoenix for Hot Rod Williams. Price and Brad Daugherty were the east coast version of Stockton and Malone but I felt like Mark was a better scorer and long range shooter off the pick and roll than Stockton was. Both Mark and Brad were a great tandem until Jordan and injuries got the best of them.
Jason Kidd’s impact outways Nash’s skill by a wide margin in my opinion. Ppl forget that when Rick Carlisle put JJ Barea in the starting lineup in the finals, it forced Kidd to be the starting defender on LeBron. First game Carlisle made that adjustment was the 8 point game LeBron had. Also, Kidd joined the nets who had just finished with a record as one of the bottom 5 teams in the league. The year he gets there all they did was draft Jefferson, brought back the same core and then go to back to back finals. Lastly let’s not forget...he was able to lead the Knicks to a 2 seed. He was actually able to help a team with Carhellno Anthony on it function well and even win a playoff series. Second most impactful PG of all time after Magic. So many things he brings to the table that Nash’s skill just can’t match.
Steve Nash had a better team, but he was playing in a tougher conference. Jason Kidd had a worse team, but he was playing in a weaker conference. On the 2011 Mavericks, Jason Kidd was impactful, but he was not the focal point. Despite these facts, I still think that Jason Kidd was the better player.
During Kidd's first stint playing in the Western Conference, he got knocked out of the first round of the playoffs several times. He made it to the second round only twice. During, his second stint in the Western Conference, he was not the focal point of the team. Steve Nash got to the Western Conference Finals 3 times as the focal point on the Suns and once as as a complement to Dirk on the Mavs. In my opinion, their team accomplishments are similar given what they did in their respective primes against the competition they faced, but as I said, I still think Kidd is a better player.
@@edwinj Dude, Jason Kidd has been to the playoffs 19 years in a roll no matter what team he played for. Also 3 finals appearances. twice representing the East and once representing the West. He actually had more success in the West because he has a ring winning in the West. Your argument makes no sense. Kidd is just better
Ur crazy! Kidd was on Mavs teams and Suns team but still made both from BAD to WINNING TEAMS! He went to the east against a Celtics, Lebron Cavs, Wade Heat, Pistons, Pacers, Iverson 76ers, + more, and still was good! He also won a chip with a 100year old Nowitzki, while playing at 200years old already! So that should say it all!
Jason Kidd was a significantly worse shooter in his prime than Nash. That said Kidd did so much more. Even outside of his prime he helped win a championship with Dallas and as you mentioned the 2013 Knicks.
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Nash was always a defensive liability in Dallas and Phoenix. Kidd was on both franchises. You could always tell a Kidd team they seemed to run the transition game a lot. He would grab the defensive rebound or outlet pass and just push the ball up the floor.
I remember watching Jason Kidd in the knicks I didn’t want him to go. He became a better shooter and he was the floor leader. You are right he had a huge impact wished he had stayed two more seasons. Def feel like it would have helped melo mature better. Back to Nash vs Kidd. Depends on what you want your pg to do more defend or score. Def have to have Jason Kidd like you said finals appearance and back to back. Don’t believe Nash got the suns to the western finals I could be wrong but don’t remember. Good vid
Jason Kidd left college as a sophomore in 1994. Steve Nash stayed all four years at Santa Clara and was part of the greatest NBA Draft of all time (the 96 Draft). So yeah, they’re the same age.
So true! Melo even said it too on a interview. That it helped very much having veterans such as KIDD, and Chandler, Martin, Prigioni (rookie)! Melo was playing for leaders, who would teach him better ball, than a panicked team. The veterans were there to teach them and lead. They would tell them to SETTLE, gather, play D, and even HOLD BALL, stick to the offense and pass around! It was best coz Melo, Stoudamire, all the talented players, played under Kidd's & other veterans leadership!
Judah I gotta go with Chauncey Billups as the best point guard of the 2000s. He too lead his teams to back to back finals and beat a laker team that Jason Kidd lost too 2 years earlier. Also billups went to 7 straight conference finals.
J-Kidd had better intangibles like his overall athleticism: speed w/the ball in his prime, lateral foot movement, strength, size etc. *and obviously his mind/b-ball IQ. which in turn meant he could impact the game in ways Nash just couldn't. he also usually had to guard the opposing team's best perimeter player night in, night out. and he ended up w/9 all-defensive teams for his career.. arguably just behind GP in terms of elite defensive point guards to have played the game. not to mention he was a triple double threat when it actually still meant something/was much harder to record trip/doubs. if it weren't for Tim Duncan, Kidd would prob have at least 1 MVP to his name.
Jason kidd would cover 2 guards as well and even when he was older ..the man could move his feet. Rachel dont understand that at some point especially in the finals..its not about help from the other teammates . There will be a time when you have to Man up and get it done
I agree about Nash playing in today's NBA. I can't agree with Nash not leading team to finals bc he was going against Kobe/Shaq and Duncan/Pop. I do think Kidd was the better player though
Nash is was only impactful in the Run N Gun. No one knew who he was until Doc Nelson & later D'antoni because he saw how good he was in RnG. Nash was completely non-existent on defense & that disparity alone is enough to put Kidd on top. Kidd could run halfcourt & RnG styles masterfully. Kidd even expressed his discontent with the halfcourt scheme Terry Porter introduced during the Shaq experiment. Nash also had one of the most underrated but best fitting rosters for that style of play. Although Pop & the Spurs had their number Amare was Tim Duncan's nightmare in the playoffs & Marion was the most versatile player in the league mid 2000s also. Nash was great but not as great as Kidd. Kidd is top 5 all-time PGs & with the emergence of Steph Nash is just a lesser version of him in the most respectful way possible.
As a fan of the Dallas Mavericks who got to watch both of these players night in and night out....there is no question in my mind that Steve Nash was better than Jason Kidd. I would go as far as saying that Nash was better than Kidd when Nash was still in Dallas. Nash almost always had a huge game when playing against the Nets. That being said...there is no way Nash could have done what Kidd did for the Mavs in their 2011 TItle run. Jason Kidd is great on a team where he does not have to score. Put him on a low talented team and his intangibles don't amount to much. Put Kidd on a team loaded with talent (like the 2011 Mavs) and his defensive abilities and tangibles really stand out. Jason Kidd was garbage for the Mavs in the 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2012 NBA playoffs.
Kidd was like 35 or 36 during those seasons you've picked he was clearly passed his prime. I disagree I believe kidd was better but it's a great debate
Nash was a great player But Kidd had a better overall game (he could shoot the ball, he could score in the lane, he could pass the ball, he could box out for the boards, & he could defend in the perimeter) J.Kidd>Nash
You go with Kidd 8/10 times. I'll take Nash for a team with a more explosive offense. Kidd has more intangibles. I would also say in todays game, I'll go with Nash. Other than that it's Kidd. On a side note Nash was on his way to his 3rd in a row in 07. There were many voters who were vocal on not giving him that on a historical level. 3 in a row is huge. So they opted for Dirk. Though he did lead his team to more wins. interesting subject
Kidd was on his way to a third nba finals back-to-back appearance when he hit his knee. Still took the pistons to 7 games. That same pistons team beat the Lakers in 5. Not even close kidd.is better. Do you really think Nash was better than shaq, and Kobe?
Steve Nash was way more clutch,way better in the pick roll and roll etc. J Kidd was like LeBron where as he would hold the ball too much. And didn't have the ability to play off the ball like a Nash or Stockton. He could only play into the Kidd style offense like LeBron. Nash would have a finals if the refs didn't cheat him calls vs San Antonio. Something you didn't mention.
I know you've never watched Jason Kidd play. Steve Nash was ball dominant. That's the system harden is in right now. Kidd didn't have to have the ball in his hand to get you 10 Assists.
I’m going with Steve Nash > Jason Kidd, better offense always beats a better defense. Nash was an excellent passer against more tougher western Conf opponents. Plus Jason Kidd went back to back Finals sure but he was lucky to be in the weaker East Conf, while Nash had to battle most of his career in the Tougher West Conf. 2007 he vs the Spurs were the best two teams in that year which was a real NBA Finals matchup then the Spurs vs Cavs matchup. Don’t forget about the suspension on Amare & Diaw for standing out when Duncan did the same thing but no one bats an eye. I will take Nash > Kidd.
You do know Kidd was thriving in the West out the gate took Nash some time to find his footing. Dantoni system helped Nash,Kidd made ppl think Bryon Scott was a good coach
@@N8veJay Kidd was good wit the Mavs team was young and fighting amongst each other. He couldn't shoot but he did everything else boards,assists and defense. Nash first stint wit the Suns was forgettable
JERU Oh he was good, just not MVP good, but he definitely did good in the West. I just think Nash was a slight overall better then Kidd... I love both players growing up. One shared my name, the other was on my favorite team.
JERU first stint was forgettable but his Mavs was good and his Suns day were unimaginable... how players trained under Nash to be better (Curry, Giannis, and now RJ Barrett on Duke).
can you do a video on Ray Allen vs Reggie Miller who was the better basketball player/3pt shooter/better jump shot/free throw shooter/high bball I.Q/who had the better career
awfpunisher naw Ray Allen was better I remember when he played for the Sonics all he did was shoot threes or take the defender off the dribble. Great shooter his shot was wet.
Steve Nash wasnt a good player in the playoffs go check out his stats during playoff basketball his game massively dipped during post season. He became a huge over overachiever in the regular season and underachiever during NBA playoffs. Jason Kidd i remember him carrying the Nets in the finals to 2 straight NBA championship apperances the dude was the system in New Jersey. Also Jason Kidd was a excellent defensive player he was nice 2 way player. Steve Nash was a excellent offensive player his defense was terrible.
Y'ALL ARE CRAZY TO THINK AND SAY THAT NASH IS A BETTER PLAYER, EVEN BETTER POINTGUARD, THAN JASON KIDD! AND I HATE THE FACT ESP. IF PEOPLE START USING THAT BULLSHIIT REASONS OR ARGUMENT THAT "NASH ON D'ANTONI GAME" OR "NASH IS A BETTER SHOOTER , 3PT SHOOTER" and "NASH IS MORE OF AN OFFENSIVE THREAT"!!! Jason Kidd is so much way ahead of Steve Nash...! He's a leader, a shooter, a passer, a rebounder, steal master, stronger point guard on offense, way better in defense and lastly, HAS A WAY HIGHER IQ THAN STEVE NASH IN BASKETBALL! Everything that Nash did, JASON KIDD DID + MORE TOO! He wasn't shooting that much COZ HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO IN THE SITUATION SO HE WENT FOR BETTER OFFENSIVE PLAYS AND HIGHER SHOT PCT. THAN CHUGGING IT UP FOR A 3 BY HIMSELF. HE MAY HAVE FAKED A 3 THEN GO FOR A 2PT INSTEAD OR PASSED IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAD BETTER EFFICIENT SHOTS INSIDE THAN FORCING TO SHOOT AND MISS! AND WHAT NASH DID FOR TEAMS OR FOR HIMSELF, J.KIDD'S BEEN IT AND DONE THAT! BETTER SHOOTER? D'ANTONI'S OFFENSE? NASH? UR KIDDING ME! JASON KIDD IS IN THE TOP5 FOR 3PTS (and don't use that excuse that it was later on in his career coz he only fucckiing played couple of years in Mavs and 1 in Knicks, but even so, THAT'S PROOF ITSELF THAT HE CAN SHOOT!) AND ALSO, 1 MORE THING IS THAT HE CAN EASILY BULLY ON THE LOW POST VS NASH OR ANY SKINNY LITTLE POINT GUARDS! HE MAY BE GREAT IN D'ANTONI'S OFFENSE AND WILL HURT U, IF NOT KILL U MORE, SINCE HE'S LIKES TO RUN WITH THE BALL, SCORE OR PASS IT SAME WAY, if not EVEN BETTER, THAN STEVE NASH DID! Paul Pierce and that other guy couldn't have said it better! JASON KIDD TURNED OVER 4-5TEAMS AND GOT 1 OF THEM TO FINALS or HE TOOK IT FROM WORSE TEAM THEN FLIPPED OVER FRANCHISES MADE IT A WINNING TEAM INSTEAD AND A THREAT TO SO MUCH MORE OTHER TEAMS THAT OVERLOOKED! (He flipped over an average Mavs team as a rookie, won ROY btw, and made them better! He took over the Suns team and made them better! HE LED THE WORST TEAM 1 YEAR B4 HIM, NEW JERSEY NETS, AND CARRIED THEM TO 2 STRAIGHT FINALS, AND MORE YEARS MADE THEM A GREAT FRANCHISE!!! Came back and won a championship to Mavericks! And lastly played a year for the Knicks that made a great turn around as dysfunctional to playoff threat team!) I DEFINITELY COULD SAY MORE, BUT I HOPE Y'ALL ARE NOT DUMB ENOUGH TO NOT GET IT! For fucck's sake, HE IS TOP 3 TO TOP 5 in a lots of categories - such as TRIPLE DOUBLES, REBOUNDS as a GUARD, 3PTS, ASSISTS and STEALS! Damn! JASON KIDD IS A BETTER POINT GUARD, BETTER PLAYER OVERALL and BETTER LEADER than Nash. Enough said...! Thank u...!
That year before Kidd went to the Nets people forget Kenyon Martin was out for all of that season which was his rookie season. Kidd no doubt was the main reason they went to the finals but Kenyon was great 2.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kidd was the better overall player. I would say that I would love to see Nash take over Harden's job on the Rockets. I think that since both players are considered liabilities defensively bit I trush Nash's IQ and leadership and shooting more, the Rockets would probably be better.
i rather go with jason kidd on this way. Steve nash was great but he wasnt the type of guy you could heavily lean on in the playoffs when it mattered most. I felt like he deserved that first one, but that 2nd one was pure bias. I think dirk deserved that one that 05-06 season. Even lebron should have had a better chance to win it as well
The West was way tougher than the East. Kidd would have never sniffed the finals in the Western Conference. His shooting was horrible enough that defense would sagg off and force him to become a scorer.
I concur with your assessment Sir. I would give J. Kidd the nod. I had the honor of playing against J. Kidd, Gary Payton, John Stockton and Kenny Smith. Of the four if I waa starting a team i would definately choose Kidd. Although, I must mention Kenny Smith is the fastest player i ever encountered. His end to end speed was unbelievable!!
Watching Jason Kidd especially when he got to the Nets, showed me the importance of passing timing. Getting guys to their spots, he dominated picking up on that little observation. J Kidd got robbed of 2 MVPs
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Kidd was one of the best rebounding guards in NBA history.
Is the best. No guard sh or pg has more rebounds.
Facts
@@kalinwang1 stop it just stop right there not as impactful as a Jason Kidd
@@caillouswagg101 what are you talking about. I agree Kidd is the best
@@kalinwang1 lol nope
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Y’all ain’t see J. Kidd in college. He played exactly the same as he did in the league. Big fast smart guard.
I remember him in Berkley. He's dominate games with 0 points.
I did, with Murray and Duck on his squads. I think NFL great played on one his teams as well.
that was sooo much fun to watch! Those pac10 guard battles back then when Kidd went against Stanford, Arizona, etc. Brevin Knight was from my town, so I watched all those epic battles against J.Kidd, Damon Stoudamire, Khalid Reeves. Those games (& the BigEast Conference) made me a super fan of college basketball and follow their nba careers. You don't understand (I know u probably do) how great those guards were. J. Kidd was so big/fast/strong/smart, it was amazing how he absolutely dominated the game without shooting/scoring! #salute #brickcity
When Kidd finally got that chip with the Mavs his jumper was WET
J.Kidd was also ambidextrous with both his handle and passing. 6’5 stronger, quicker, faster and moved laterally far better then Nash. Kidd was also the triple double man in his era. Nash was a better scorer and had a little flashier game. Over all I’d take J Kidd’s basketball iq and overall game over Nash’s scoring.
Nash did better, score more 30+ point games in double-doubles with high efficiency then Kidd’s typical 15-10-10 triple doubles with poor efficient while competing in the Tougher West Conf... I’ll take Nash > Kidd
Steve Nash was my favorite player in the league for a number of years. I think offensively he was a more polished player and had a better off the ball game when the situations arose.
However, Jason's ability to guard, rebound and the fact that he could brutalize most guys his size or smaller on the box so he was like a miniature center, gives him a verrrry slight edge. IMO.
Also, with Kidd there's the What If of his knee injury. He was just getting going at an executive level when he sustained the injury.
He came back from it but who knows how dominant he would have been. That was right when he had started looking to score more. Plus, he was top 2 or 3 one on one defending PGs in the league.
But either way, they were both on some next level vision and delivery stuff.
Jason Kidd was about 4in away in height to being as great as Magic or even better because I believe he was able to play the floor even better than Magic, but still great and my favorite pg of all time. His ability to anticipate and just foresee things before it happened was just off the charts. Very reminiscent of Larry Bird, who was also very very aware of everything going on around him.
J KiDD was our generations magic Johnson
Kidd & Nash were great point guards during the 2000s. Both were phenomenal passers. Nash was a better shooter but Kidd was a better defender, two way player, & helped the Mavs in the title in 2011. Kidd also led the Nets to back to back finals appearances. They had to hide Nash on defense in Phoenix. I’m going with Jason Kidd over Nash
Be Great. Etch Your Name. I disagree. I believe Nash was the better point guard. Kidd going back to back NBA Finals would never happen if he had played in the West. We know Sacramento was the better matchup vs the Lakers...
Kidd is also a defensive stopper but Nash will give you points efficiently as well as assists playmaking that looked more better then Kidd’s playmaking abilities.
Kidd was much more impactful than Nash any day of the week.
Maino Mane Nash was overall better then Kidd any day of the week.
@@N8veJay kidd can play in many different systems and the results were the same. Nash needed a specific system and the correct collection of players to maximize his skills. I'm going with the more versatile player.
The great Mark Price was doing what Steve Nash was doing back in the mid to late 80s and early 90s. Mark Price was great at splitting the pick and roll and some say he used to make the two defenders that were trapping the pick and roll bump heads when he split them. Mark was the reason why Kevin Johnson couldnt get off the bench in Cleveland so they traded him to Phoenix for Hot Rod Williams. Price and Brad Daugherty were the east coast version of Stockton and Malone but I felt like Mark was a better scorer and long range shooter off the pick and roll than Stockton was. Both Mark and Brad were a great tandem until Jordan and injuries got the best of them.
bernard washington Mark Price was definitely Nash before Nash
Jason Kidd’s impact outways Nash’s skill by a wide margin in my opinion. Ppl forget that when Rick Carlisle put JJ Barea in the starting lineup in the finals, it forced Kidd to be the starting defender on LeBron. First game Carlisle made that adjustment was the 8 point game LeBron had. Also, Kidd joined the nets who had just finished with a record as one of the bottom 5 teams in the league. The year he gets there all they did was draft Jefferson, brought back the same core and then go to back to back finals. Lastly let’s not forget...he was able to lead the Knicks to a 2 seed. He was actually able to help a team with Carhellno Anthony on it function well and even win a playoff series. Second most impactful PG of all time after Magic. So many things he brings to the table that Nash’s skill just can’t match.
Excellent points 👌🏽
Stop hating on Melo bro.
Disagree about the Knicks. Kidd did not play enough to lead them to the 2 seed
JL King He played 76 games, started in 48 games and played 27 min a night. Wym he didn’t play enough?
Jason Kidd Played with Nash in Phoenix from 96-98
As great as Nash was...give me Kidd any day. The guy could dominate the game without scoring.
Steve Nash had a better team, but he was playing in a tougher conference. Jason Kidd had a worse team, but he was playing in a weaker conference. On the 2011 Mavericks, Jason Kidd was impactful, but he was not the focal point.
Despite these facts, I still think that Jason Kidd was the better player.
Kidd played in the west just as much and won in the west. You're argument is flawed.
During Kidd's first stint playing in the Western Conference, he got knocked out of the first round of the playoffs several times. He made it to the second round only twice. During, his second stint in the Western Conference, he was not the focal point of the team.
Steve Nash got to the Western Conference Finals 3 times as the focal point on the Suns and once as as a complement to Dirk on the Mavs.
In my opinion, their team accomplishments are similar given what they did in their respective primes against the competition they faced, but as I said, I still think Kidd is a better player.
@@edwinj Dude, Jason Kidd has been to the playoffs 19 years in a roll no matter what team he played for. Also 3 finals appearances. twice representing the East and once representing the West. He actually had more success in the West because he has a ring winning in the West. Your argument makes no sense. Kidd is just better
Ur crazy! Kidd was on Mavs teams and Suns team but still made both from BAD to WINNING TEAMS! He went to the east against a Celtics, Lebron Cavs, Wade Heat, Pistons, Pacers, Iverson 76ers, + more, and still was good! He also won a chip with a 100year old Nowitzki, while playing at 200years old already! So that should say it all!
Kids has a chip doesn’t he with the mavs? When Nash played with dirk he didn’t win anything lol
Gotta go with Kidd on defense alone!! #SteveNashDidntPlayIt
Jason Kidd was a significantly worse shooter in his prime than Nash. That said Kidd did so much more. Even outside of his prime he helped win a championship with Dallas and as you mentioned the 2013 Knicks.
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I have to go with KIDD. Boy was a monster in his prime.
Yeah I’d go with J. Kidd as well
4:17. One day, someone will guess her to be older than she is. She should get out of the habit of telling her age 😂
what you said about Kidd's impact to the Knicks can be the same argument made for majority of Nash's career
That is fuccked up, but i like it! 🤣
Nash was always a defensive liability in Dallas and Phoenix. Kidd was on both franchises. You could always tell a Kidd team they seemed to run the transition game a lot. He would grab the defensive rebound or outlet pass and just push the ball up the floor.
I remember watching Jason Kidd in the knicks I didn’t want him to go. He became a better shooter and he was the floor leader. You are right he had a huge impact wished he had stayed two more seasons. Def feel like it would have helped melo mature better. Back to Nash vs Kidd. Depends on what you want your pg to do more defend or score. Def have to have Jason Kidd like you said finals appearance and back to back. Don’t believe Nash got the suns to the western finals I could be wrong but don’t remember. Good vid
Jason Kidd left college as a sophomore in 1994. Steve Nash stayed all four years at Santa Clara and was part of the greatest NBA Draft of all time (the 96 Draft).
So yeah, they’re the same age.
This isna hard one but i would go with Nash. Because he can give yo subpar center 10 to 15 without posting he can give u easily 20 pts 10 assist
Have u seen the centers that Kidd played with? Lolz!
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Nash was more entertaining.... Kidd guarded LBJ in the finals as an elder... If you’re a PG who can’t slow down your assignment, your team won’t win
SixFoot One so Steph plays defense lol
Him ... much better than Nash, yes. His defensive abilities are overlooked actually.
Stockton and Malone deserve more love even tho no rings ill take Stockton over kid or Nash if I'm starting team
Best yr melo had as a player was with kidd as his pg
So true! Melo even said it too on a interview. That it helped very much having veterans such as KIDD, and Chandler, Martin, Prigioni (rookie)! Melo was playing for leaders, who would teach him better ball, than a panicked team. The veterans were there to teach them and lead. They would tell them to SETTLE, gather, play D, and even HOLD BALL, stick to the offense and pass around! It was best coz Melo, Stoudamire, all the talented players, played under Kidd's & other veterans leadership!
Dan Joshua Siason Melo game needs a good point guard bcuz he is a flat out scorer
Judah I gotta go with Chauncey Billups as the best point guard of the 2000s. He too lead his teams to back to back finals and beat a laker team that Jason Kidd lost too 2 years earlier. Also billups went to 7 straight conference finals.
Steve Nash made a 28 win Phoenix Suns team and made a 62 win team pretty impressive even though no finals appearances
Also made Raja Bell an offensive threat, put Boris Diaw on the map and help make Leandro Barbosa 6th man of the year. Nash got dudes paid in Phoenix.
@@mike.cdn7212 right deserves those MVPs f what everyone says about it
J-Kidd had better intangibles like his overall athleticism: speed w/the ball in his prime, lateral foot movement, strength, size etc. *and obviously his mind/b-ball IQ. which in turn meant he could impact the game in ways Nash just couldn't. he also usually had to guard the opposing team's best perimeter player night in, night out. and he ended up w/9 all-defensive teams for his career.. arguably just behind GP in terms of elite defensive point guards to have played the game. not to mention he was a triple double threat when it actually still meant something/was much harder to record trip/doubs. if it weren't for Tim Duncan, Kidd would prob have at least 1 MVP to his name.
When j KIDD burst on the scene in 93 his crossover was deadly coming at you full speed
Master Pierce he was so fast and smart in transition
Jason kidd would cover 2 guards as well and even when he was older ..the man could move his feet. Rachel dont understand that at some point especially in the finals..its not about help from the other teammates . There will be a time when you have to Man up and get it done
Great points COJ. J Kid did transform teams. Oh yeah...someone please help the Truth lol. He’s definitely struggling in this debate lol
Kobe made Steve Nash cry so I’ll go with Jason Kidd
I Remember Seeing Jason Kidd On The Knick’s In 2013 For The First Part Of The Season But When He Got Injured They Slowed Down
I agree about Nash playing in today's NBA. I can't agree with Nash not leading team to finals bc he was going against Kobe/Shaq and Duncan/Pop. I do think Kidd was the better player though
Nash is was only impactful in the Run N Gun. No one knew who he was until Doc Nelson & later D'antoni because he saw how good he was in RnG. Nash was completely non-existent on defense & that disparity alone is enough to put Kidd on top. Kidd could run halfcourt & RnG styles masterfully. Kidd even expressed his discontent with the halfcourt scheme Terry Porter introduced during the Shaq experiment. Nash also had one of the most underrated but best fitting rosters for that style of play. Although Pop & the Spurs had their number Amare was Tim Duncan's nightmare in the playoffs & Marion was the most versatile player in the league mid 2000s also. Nash was great but not as great as Kidd. Kidd is top 5 all-time PGs & with the emergence of Steph Nash is just a lesser version of him in the most respectful way possible.
As a fan of the Dallas Mavericks who got to watch both of these players night in and night out....there is no question in my mind that Steve Nash was better than Jason Kidd. I would go as far as saying that Nash was better than Kidd when Nash was still in Dallas. Nash almost always had a huge game when playing against the Nets.
That being said...there is no way Nash could have done what Kidd did for the Mavs in their 2011 TItle run.
Jason Kidd is great on a team where he does not have to score. Put him on a low talented team and his intangibles don't amount to much.
Put Kidd on a team loaded with talent (like the 2011 Mavs) and his defensive abilities and tangibles really stand out. Jason Kidd was garbage for the Mavs in the 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2012 NBA playoffs.
Kidd was like 35 or 36 during those seasons you've picked he was clearly passed his prime. I disagree I believe kidd was better but it's a great debate
Agreed
Nash was a great player
But Kidd had a better overall game (he could shoot the ball, he could score in the lane, he could pass the ball, he could box out for the boards, & he could defend in the perimeter)
J.Kidd>Nash
Kidd my favourite player of all time
You go with Kidd 8/10 times. I'll take Nash for a team with a more explosive offense. Kidd has more intangibles. I would also say in todays game, I'll go with Nash. Other than that it's Kidd. On a side note Nash was on his way to his 3rd in a row in 07. There were many voters who were vocal on not giving him that on a historical level. 3 in a row is huge. So they opted for Dirk. Though he did lead his team to more wins. interesting subject
Kidd was on his way to a third nba finals back-to-back appearance when he hit his knee. Still took the pistons to 7 games. That same pistons team beat the Lakers in 5. Not even close kidd.is better. Do you really think Nash was better than shaq, and Kobe?
awfpunisher Dirk deserved the MVP that year
Steve Nash was way more clutch,way better in the pick roll and roll etc. J Kidd was like LeBron where as he would hold the ball too much. And didn't have the ability to play off the ball like a Nash or Stockton. He could only play into the Kidd style offense like LeBron. Nash would have a finals if the refs didn't cheat him calls vs San Antonio. Something you didn't mention.
I know you've never watched Jason Kidd play. Steve Nash was ball dominant. That's the system harden is in right now. Kidd didn't have to have the ball in his hand to get you 10 Assists.
kalinwang1 Kidd was a pure passer and playmaker
I’m going with Steve Nash > Jason Kidd, better offense always beats a better defense. Nash was an excellent passer against more tougher western Conf opponents. Plus Jason Kidd went back to back Finals sure but he was lucky to be in the weaker East Conf, while Nash had to battle most of his career in the Tougher West Conf. 2007 he vs the Spurs were the best two teams in that year which was a real NBA Finals matchup then the Spurs vs Cavs matchup. Don’t forget about the suspension on Amare & Diaw for standing out when Duncan did the same thing but no one bats an eye. I will take Nash > Kidd.
You do know Kidd was thriving in the West out the gate took Nash some time to find his footing. Dantoni system helped Nash,Kidd made ppl think Bryon Scott was a good coach
JERU Kidd didn’t thrive as well then Nash did. Plus the Suns have a bad record without Nash overall...
@@N8veJay Kidd was good wit the Mavs team was young and fighting amongst each other. He couldn't shoot but he did everything else boards,assists and defense. Nash first stint wit the Suns was forgettable
JERU Oh he was good, just not MVP good, but he definitely did good in the West. I just think Nash was a slight overall better then Kidd... I love both players growing up. One shared my name, the other was on my favorite team.
JERU first stint was forgettable but his Mavs was good and his Suns day were unimaginable... how players trained under Nash to be better (Curry, Giannis, and now RJ Barrett on Duke).
Kidd was the better Pg because of his defense plus you could put Kidd in almost any system
I don't know how Paul kept his cool in this segment
can you do a video on Ray Allen vs Reggie Miller who was the better basketball player/3pt shooter/better jump shot/free throw shooter/high bball I.Q/who had the better career
Going by the criteria of this channels comments, and of the uploader Id guess Reggie. Was the main guy on his team. Better 2 way player. Alpha etc.
awfpunisher naw Ray Allen was better I remember when he played for the Sonics all he did was shoot threes or take the defender off the dribble. Great shooter his shot was wet.
Nash Feb 7, 1974(44)/Kidd March 23, 1973(45)
Steve Nash wasnt a good player in the playoffs go check out his stats during playoff basketball his game massively dipped during post season. He became a huge over overachiever in the regular season and underachiever during NBA playoffs. Jason Kidd i remember him carrying the Nets in the finals to 2 straight NBA championship apperances the dude was the system in New Jersey. Also Jason Kidd was a excellent defensive player he was nice 2 way player. Steve Nash was a excellent offensive player his defense was terrible.
Y'ALL ARE CRAZY TO THINK AND SAY THAT NASH IS A BETTER PLAYER, EVEN BETTER POINTGUARD, THAN JASON KIDD! AND I HATE THE FACT ESP. IF PEOPLE START USING THAT BULLSHIIT REASONS OR ARGUMENT THAT "NASH ON D'ANTONI GAME" OR "NASH IS A BETTER SHOOTER , 3PT SHOOTER" and "NASH IS MORE OF AN OFFENSIVE THREAT"!!!
Jason Kidd is so much way ahead of Steve Nash...! He's a leader, a shooter, a passer, a rebounder, steal master, stronger point guard on offense, way better in defense and lastly, HAS A WAY HIGHER IQ THAN STEVE NASH IN BASKETBALL!
Everything that Nash did, JASON KIDD DID + MORE TOO! He wasn't shooting that much COZ HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO IN THE SITUATION SO HE WENT FOR BETTER OFFENSIVE PLAYS AND HIGHER SHOT PCT. THAN CHUGGING IT UP FOR A 3 BY HIMSELF. HE MAY HAVE FAKED A 3 THEN GO FOR A 2PT INSTEAD OR PASSED IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHO HAD BETTER EFFICIENT SHOTS INSIDE THAN FORCING TO SHOOT AND MISS! AND WHAT NASH DID FOR TEAMS OR FOR HIMSELF, J.KIDD'S BEEN IT AND DONE THAT!
BETTER SHOOTER? D'ANTONI'S OFFENSE? NASH? UR KIDDING ME! JASON KIDD IS IN THE TOP5 FOR 3PTS (and don't use that excuse that it was later on in his career coz he only fucckiing played couple of years in Mavs and 1 in Knicks, but even so, THAT'S PROOF ITSELF THAT HE CAN SHOOT!) AND ALSO, 1 MORE THING IS THAT HE CAN EASILY BULLY ON THE LOW POST VS NASH OR ANY SKINNY LITTLE POINT GUARDS! HE MAY BE GREAT IN D'ANTONI'S OFFENSE AND WILL HURT U, IF NOT KILL U MORE, SINCE HE'S LIKES TO RUN WITH THE BALL, SCORE OR PASS IT SAME WAY, if not EVEN BETTER, THAN STEVE NASH DID!
Paul Pierce and that other guy couldn't have said it better!
JASON KIDD TURNED OVER 4-5TEAMS AND GOT 1 OF THEM TO FINALS or HE TOOK IT FROM WORSE TEAM THEN FLIPPED OVER FRANCHISES MADE IT A WINNING TEAM INSTEAD AND A THREAT TO SO MUCH MORE OTHER TEAMS THAT OVERLOOKED! (He flipped over an average Mavs team as a rookie, won ROY btw, and made them better! He took over the Suns team and made them better! HE LED THE WORST TEAM 1 YEAR B4 HIM, NEW JERSEY NETS, AND CARRIED THEM TO 2 STRAIGHT FINALS, AND MORE YEARS MADE THEM A GREAT FRANCHISE!!! Came back and won a championship to Mavericks! And lastly played a year for the Knicks that made a great turn around as dysfunctional to playoff threat team!)
I DEFINITELY COULD SAY MORE, BUT I HOPE Y'ALL ARE NOT DUMB ENOUGH TO NOT GET IT!
For fucck's sake, HE IS TOP 3 TO TOP 5 in a lots of categories - such as TRIPLE DOUBLES, REBOUNDS as a GUARD, 3PTS, ASSISTS and STEALS! Damn!
JASON KIDD IS A BETTER POINT GUARD, BETTER PLAYER OVERALL and BETTER LEADER than Nash.
Enough said...! Thank u...!
I’ll go with Kidd but Nash was no slouch. Both made their teams better.
That year before Kidd went to the Nets people forget Kenyon Martin was out for all of that season which was his rookie season. Kidd no doubt was the main reason they went to the finals but Kenyon was great 2.
kharis87 Weak East
@@N8veJay Kidd win in the west. You weak east point means nothing.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kidd was the better overall player. I would say that I would love to see Nash take over Harden's job on the Rockets. I think that since both players are considered liabilities defensively bit I trush Nash's IQ and leadership and shooting more, the Rockets would probably be better.
Wolfe Scribe I think Nashe as the overall better player
I always felt like Jason Kidd tried to be like John Stockton or Dennis Johnson.
Nope! He played his game like his idol Magic Johnson.
Dan Joshua Siason Yup played just like Magic he loved to push the ball in transition.
i rather go with jason kidd on this way. Steve nash was great but he wasnt the type of guy you could heavily lean on in the playoffs when it mattered most. I felt like he deserved that first one, but that 2nd one was pure bias. I think dirk deserved that one that 05-06 season. Even lebron should have had a better chance to win it as well
Yung Dynamic I thought Kobe deserved it in 06 he basically shot his team in the playoffs and also shoot them out of games.
The West was way tougher than the East. Kidd would have never sniffed the finals in the Western Conference. His shooting was horrible enough that defense would sagg off and force him to become a scorer.
In 2006 Lebron finished second in voting.
King_Alamgir cool did not know that
Obviously kidd, and I'm a Suns fan
Have you heard about the shootings of e.j. Bradford and Jemel Roberson?
Jason Kidd,, he won with the Mavs
J kidd - 45
S Nash - 44
kidd got a ring wit the mavs... and they wouldn't won it without him.
J.Kidd was better dude led the Nets to the Finals twice
Nash a year younger then kidd
Jason Kidd or Stephen Curry?
Notorious BleezyB great question
JASON KIDD... duh!
I concur with your assessment Sir. I would give J. Kidd the nod. I had the honor of playing against J. Kidd, Gary Payton, John Stockton and Kenny Smith. Of the four if I waa starting a team i would definately choose Kidd. Although, I must mention Kenny Smith is the fastest player i ever encountered. His end to end speed was unbelievable!!
Kidd. Next question
Its funny how kidd was never deemed a great shooter but isnt he like top 5 top 10 in 3pm if im not mistaken?
Longevity
Look at his percentages
Longevity, he isn’t exactly a great 3p shooter
played so long. He was never considered a great 3 point shooter
Exactly! How can he be in Top 5 of 3pt shooting, right? Like all these people are dumb to say that!
Jason Kidd is way better Nash is just a better scorer
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Watching Jason Kidd especially when he got to the Nets, showed me the importance of passing timing. Getting guys to their spots, he dominated picking up on that little observation. J Kidd got robbed of 2 MVPs
Weak East
Facts even Shaq said Kidd got Robbed
americanfresh17 True it was during the trophy presentation I remember it like it was yesterday
Kidd over Nash everyday and all day
Steve Nash period.
Yep, kobe should have a truck load of mvps
No he shouldn't. And he doesn't.
JKidd ruined a team with Toni B though lmao 😂🤣😂
Steve Nash was a game changer. Kidd was not.
Lol
Smh
Geeze man. Nash was J Kidd's backup for a reason.
Bruh
Nash > Kidd, but L to the comment
First, Allegedly.