The Southern Tradition At Bay
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Well, Dr. Harrelson, It is a real pleasure to hear your lectures. You have a lot to share with us, and I am listening. Thomas Dixon might be of interest to you, as well as Dr. Albert Schweitzer, MD. He had some astute observations about the Africans and their culture and behavior. My wife’s family are ethnic German Catholics who emigrated to St. Louis , MO. to work as brewers for Anheiser Busch. Her remaining relatives now live behind locked doors and burglar bars. Their old neighborhood is now long since gone, and gun-fire and murder are all around them, St. Louis now resembles a war zone with burned-out and destroyed homes and buildings. wife’s elderly uncle said this on our most recent visit: “St. Louis was beautiful city until the ……. destroyed it; they ruin everything that they touch.”
Please continue to share your knowledge. It is most enjoyable! Thank you for this discourse.
This is exactly the kind of channel ive been looking for, thank you.
Reading Richard Weaver was one of the most memorable enlightening experiences in my life. My copy of "Ideas have Consequences" is riddled with notes more than any other book I own and I realize there is a before and an after this book. I recently came back to Weaver and began to read the Southern Tradition at bay. I'm really glad to hear about him on your channel.
I love Alan's passion on the Southern Agrarians. I would love to read his dissertation someday.
I would like to know about it Alan. It Certainly was not presented in my history classes in Elgin Illinois. I do know that Rock Falls and Sterling Illinois had Sundown Laws until the 1960s. I also ordered Mr. Weaver's book on Kindle.
I agree with your points about the value of Agrarian culture vs Materialistic culture.. especially NOW we need to strike a balance.
Came here just for the weaver content, never seen a pipe cottage video ❤
You made one comment I have to agree with. Why a war was fought is not why a lot of men fought in it. At age 19 in 1966 I volunteered to serve in combat in Vietnam. At age 58,as an FAA ATC retiree I took a job in Afghanistan. Thus, I spent three years of my life in combat zones. Before I went to each place I had to look them up on a map. I will honestly say I did Not see I was fighting to protect my ‘country’; Nor for my freedom. I did assist people who were fighting for those things and we failed in those endeavors. So, I am 0 for 2 in war winning. 😊. I had My own reasons for going to those places……As an aside, my wife introduced me to the southern Church of Christ which we usually attend mostly based on our beliefs, the people there, our reading of the Bible,and convenience. There are a lot of southern based churches that are essentially nondenominational, sing gospel music with and without musical instruments, practice weekly Communion, encourage regular Bible reading, and welcome ALL believers (and especially nonbelievers looking for what Jesus and His apostles taught)We are comfortable in most of them.
Bore me? Hogwash, posh, and balderdash!
There's no way this is boring. : P
Thank you Dr. Alan.
Quite interesting point of view, thanks for sharing!
Read Weaver's TSTAB years ago. A seminal book for me.
Weaver was influential on Russell Kirk, one of the key figures in (genuine) American conservative thought.
I got a copy of this book from the estate of an elderly lady at our church who passed last year. Excited to get into it!
So glad to see Richard Weaver get a good review. One of my favorites. Thanks for all you’re doing.
Dr. Harrelson, I agree with you completely, in that I think Weaver and the other great Southern agrarian writers understood that we have lost our tied to the land and are tie to orthodox faith. The Northern States long ago accepted rationalism and a kind of acceptance of a greater role of the state.
I think our current political conflict is merely an extension off earlier political conflict between North and South and those parts of the country most related to the South. The more I observe Politics as I get older the more inclined I am to believe that many Southerners vote the way they do because they subconsciously see every election as a referendum on the Southern way of life.
While I would not advocate a mass movement of "back to the land," I do believe that the fact that we have lost our inherent tie with the land has caused many of the problems we see in Southern Society today.
In an earlier time, even those who lived in cities in the South were tied in some way to those who worked the land. I think we have lost that, and it is noteworthy that the Bible presumes an agrarian society.
But Irish “racism” was not racism in a classical sense, but a prejudice against Irish Catholicism.
How is the differ are you aware that during the famine when they landed in the ports of Louisiana and the South before the civil war, the Irish were thought so low of, they would give them the jobs of clearing the swamps that they wouldn't even give the slaves because they didn't want to lose their investment, through illness and accident the Irish were expendable to them! in political cartoons of the day the Irish word depicted as subhuman!
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Hello Dr Alan Harrelson, I recently discovered your channel and I find your talks very enlightening. In today's public discourse we are unfortunately lacking any nuance and do not go deeper than the superficial level. I love the deep dives and look forward to learning more from you. Thank you.
Thanks Dr. History appreciated! Appalachian living in Florida my family lives where Stonewall Jackson was born or close by you can say. Love Shelby Foote thank you for the recommendations
I’ve not read any of Richard Weaver’s works before, though I have read about him and his thoughts through the writings of Russell Kirk.
BTW, love the content you put out. I’ve always been interested in history as a child and was fortunate to have a great history teacher in high school that really fostered the love of history in me even more, especially of the civil war.
Even as I grew up in New Jersey I’ve have always been more sympathetic to the South and the Confederacy, and lament many of its traditions that have been lost as a result of the Lincolnian Regime. lol
Love Shelby Foote, Flannery O’Connor as well as Walker Percy and Faulkner.
Dominus vobiscum!
Thanks for the lesson in history.
Thank you, Dr. Harrelson! I enjoyed the content and look forward to learning more. I’m really intrigued to learn more about the intellectual history of the American South since that hasn’t been a part of my reading of American history until now. Enjoying this channel! God bless.
You should offer a online class, or series of classes on Southern History
McClanahan Academy offers exactly what you are requesting.
@@Southern_Agrarian1930 I would not recommend Brion McClanahan to anyone. Please do not mention him further on my channel.
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Very interesting Alan. I am now about half way through your Dissertation which I have found to be particularly interesting. Thank you.
I really enjoyed that! I am interested in the titles of the books you mention for my own further reading. Thank you Dr!
Dr. Harrelson, thank you for sharing these books and your observations therein, would you please share with me the books you mentioned around 16:00? God bless you sir.
Thanks for sharing this information with us. I would love to get more information that you spoke about. Thanks again. I appreciate it
Please share with me the book titles regarding racism toward the Irish, as well as those regarding Lincoln’s own racist beliefs.
Thank you!
I would like to know those titles as well.
I had a history professor who was a very staunch advocate for Fredrick Jackson Turner and his writings on the American Frontier. He was a social historian, pushing the racial and social constructs of history over the ideology of the rugged individualism. Hated his classes, his plan was that he would teach what he wanted, if we wanted more, we would come to office hours and ask. Twenty years since I took his class, and frankly he left more of a mark on my thinking and memory than any other.
To explain the comment that I hated his classes, he expected that for each exam we would fill between 3-5 bluebooks, his exams were 5 identify type questions, and two essays which he expected full quotes and bibliography from memory. Rarely did he get that, and yes I managed once to do it, and while he hated the topic I chose (I was and still am more interested in the military history), I did argue in my essay that the American war for Independence was not a revolution but a war for Independence, and cited several books.
He did encourage me to read “for cause and comrade” by McPherson and Footes Civil War Volumes, as well as Bruce Catton among others. Wrote a mid-term paper on the battle of Gettysburg, and just to throw him, I followed the Turabian Guide and put my papers thesis at the end. That was fun.
Thank you so much for your content Dr. Harrelson. I’m a new follower, but I can honestly say I look forward to your videos. Hold Fast! You, your content, and stories have been an inspiration to this southern son. I was disappointed that work prevented me from coming to meet you in Jackson, and I thought I’d get the chance to run up to Birmingham on the following Tuesday. Unfortunately, work interceded again. This is the closest I can get to sharing my appreciation for you and your content, sir. So thank you. Keep it coming, and God Bless.
People love to cry about racism, but never question whether it was or is justified.
Being from Southwest Indiana. I always felt like I was in the wrong state and the wrong century! Then. I find out that my heritage can be traced right back to Pope's Creek, Plantation in Virginia. , I grew up on a small farm pretty much like the one you have in Kentucky now. It is still a very rural area, but changing to something I no longer like.
I'm not sure I understand the correlation between the American south and Catholicism. Southerners are inherently distrustful, and often outright despise centralized authority. I am not a scholar, but to me, this is one of the primary reasons Catholicism never took hold in the south.
Catholicism played an important role in many areas of Southern history, including the literary and intellectual life of the region, which is my focus. You are creating a false paradigm: to be Catholic is to cease to be Southern. No sir.
I'm interested in those books. I have read some about the Irish and would be interested in reading a few books instead of online.
I make it a point to buy all the old books i can, especially on history. I have one book published in the 1830s about John Paul Jones that was the property of a union medic with several notes on thr battles he was in and sketches of his campsite. I found it in a book shop in virginia for $9, it is onw of my prized books
All of my Southern ancestors were Episcopalian.
Greetings Alan,
You mentioned about the refusal of Citizenship to Slaves in Lincolns State of Illinois. Can you provide me with some of that information for my research? Thank you.
I just purchased the book!
good morning alan. my understanding is that the 14th amendment changed our nation from a federation of free and independant states, plural, to a single collectivist country, singular, the United States. We lost our country as the founders gave us and fought for in 1868 with the 14th amendment. Am i correct or just 'off my tree'?
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I would like to know if we can still say what the agrarians did in 2024. The South has changed a lot
I would love and appreciate any book recommendations. I'm collecting books on this topic.
Please and thank you, sir!
Dr Harrelson I’d very much like to see that book list and at some point, when you feel the time is right, hear your thoughts about race and slavery in the south both then and now. I know racism is overstated and controversial when it comes to southern history but I’d really appreciate your perspective.
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I really enjoy your channel and your knowledge. Keep up the good work!
Can you go into more depth on the relationship between Southern agrarianism and Catholic Church teachings? Does the Catholic Church have specific teachings on lifestyle and work?
Absolutely. The Church has made clear stances against modern consumer culture since at least the 19th century. Working on another vid about that topic.
It can certainly be argued that Southern agrarianism was reinforced and institutionalized by the the long history of slavery there.
Slavery was not abnormal in the 18th and 19th centuries in any part of the world. In fact, it was far more accepted and expected in many other areas globally. A preference for agricultural life predominated in the American South well into the 20th century, long after slavery ceased to exist in the region. I do not think slavery is in any way a prerequisite for a Southern agrarian tradition.
What do you think of the book "The Problem with Lincoln"?
Do you travel and speak to groups?
Yes, quite often.
I too believe in the full goodness of the catholic church.
Perhaps I missed it, you were mentioning where you thought you might have come up a little short with your professors during your oral exam. But, I didn’t hear how you thought you may have come up short.
Between us and barbarism lies only one generation. Unfortunately that generation was about three generations ago.
To what civilizing force, then, shall we turn? It must be that of Christendom, the preserver until Mohammed of the best part of Late Antiquity and simultaneously the repentance of its not negligible sins.
Well said!
The irony of academic historians only wanting to look at material from the past decades is palpable.
Irish racism did not classify Irish men as 2/3 of a person, nor were those suppressed Irish men bought and sold as property. Slavery is and was a detestable practice no matter the country in which it was practiced. To insinuate that somehow the American South is not to be held accountable or given a pardon because the practice crossed country and state lines is lazy at best and sinful at worst.
If the South had adopted “Feudal Christianity” then it would be the North. Protestant sensibilities is what made “The South,” the South.
Not sure why you would argue this. I would need to know more about what you think "The South" means historically.
@@Dr.AlanHarrelson From your perspective that is understandable. I am not trying to get into a theological discussion, but my point can be boiled down to a per capita comparison of catholics to (especially the more conservative variety of) protestants between the North and the South. Perhaps you have access to some statistical information that I have not seen, but I would be willing to bet that the per capita difference back then would have been substantial. My belief (right or wrong) is that the North was much more catholic than the south, with obvious exceptions such as Louisiana due to the French heritage there. The point being that the theological difference was the MAIN difference in worldview between the agrarian South and the more urban North. That, and air conditioning having not been invented yet kept most people happier up North...
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Excellent thank you 👏 in one video you recommended a book called red hills and cotton which I purchased and it was a excellent read thank you so I will buy the book by Richard m weaver as it sounds interesting thanks god bless 🙏👍👏