Replacing Himiway throttle with a Thumb throttle - Tinkering Turtle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I show how to replace the stock half-twist throttle with a thumb throttle on my Himiway electric bike. I also replace the stock grips with grips that clamp to the handle bars. A simple process that just takes a little time!
If you decide to order a thumb throttle separately, make sure you get the proper connector. A male 3 pin mini Julet. Or just use the link below.
- Tinkering Turtle
Components:
Thumb throttle
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Rockbros Bike Handlebar Grips - use with thumb throttle above
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Hafny bar end bike mirror
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Himiway website:
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Thanks Tim, I keep coming back to your videos 2 years after getting my Cruiser to keep updating it!
That’s awesome!
I try to keep the links updated…best I can anyways.
I did the upgrade and it is awesome! Had I not watched your video, I wouldn't have thought to do it. Thank you for sharing. My wife and I appreciate it. Take care.
Glad it helped, enjoy the ride!
Just ordered my Himiway and i can't wait to add this upgrade. Thanks for showing how it's done easy!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you very mutch, your making the changes i want so easy to do. Thank again for all the great videos.🙂
You are so welcome!
Hooray for the mirror, I was sweatin' it.
I also like the fact that the grips clamp to the handlebars and don’t rotate around while riding. Glad you liked the video!
Love your videos. Very thorough and makes the idea less intimidating.
Make sure to tell people to subscribe, it really helps my channel
Thank you for these videos, Tim! You helped me put the bike together, and beyond:).
Glad to help!
Be sure to subscribe for future videos!
Thanks Tim for all your videos. Just ordered my Himiway bike on black friday. I live in Three Oaks, Mi. Retired from Michigan State Parks and was unit supervisor for Kal-Haven Trail. Nice to see your rides in State Park lands. David.
Your welcome, and congrats on your purchase. The bikes are awesome!
Just add this to my bike and love it, the end caps were really hard to get on but was finally able to
Nice!
Thanks again for the help. I recommend you invest on some T-handle Allen wrenches with all the tinkering you do they make things a lot easier. I bought mine from Harbour Freight and love them.
Thanks for the tip!
A half Inch wide zip tie around the twist throttle,torque it in place, and Bam! instant free thumb throttle.
Works great on my brand new Himiway cruiser... just got it yesterday. I love it.
That does work, for sure. But I wanted a true thumb throttle so I could have a full grip on both sides.
A good tip for those who have other priorities though, thx!
Thank you, this was great help. I will be purchasing these both as the half throttle does not fit my life style. Enjoy watching all your videos please keep them coming.
Glad it was helpful!
Just put this throttle on last night , Works great
Awesome!
@@TinkeringTurtle Yep .. I’m trying out those lock grips next
Hey TT, finally got around to watching this vid, wasn’t sure about getting a thumb throttle but now that I’ve accidentally hit the twist a couple times I do see the advantage. Thanks for showing how easy the change is. I really enjoy your videos, a normal everyday person giving normal everyday advice. Keep them coming.
Regards
Ken
Thank you!
And I will keep them coming!
You make everything look simple that maybe even I (Mr. Butterfingers) could do it.
I hope it’s helpful with your bike!
Thanks for the info big dog! Good info at 3:21
No problem 👍
Tim, I did the swap/upgrade with exactly the same parts as you did. The Hafny mirrors work surprisingly well, even for being small. The thumb throttle works perfect and I prefer it over the stock twist throttle. Having ridden motorcycles all my life I wouldn't have thought so, but for me the thumb throttle is much better. But....the GOEMX grips, not so much. The GOEMX are definitely very nice looking but the faux leather covers are not bonded to the rubber base and after being used and exposed to the heat, the covers distort, stretch and slip becoming loose on the base. I found it very annoying having to always twist and reposition the faux leather covers. Anyway I replaced them with a set of Rock Bros which so far are working out well.
Thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for the throttle link update Tim, just ordered it great vids
No problem 👍
Great review Tim, I just purchased the throttle and hand grips in preporation when my Himiway arrives.
Good choice! We love ours.
@@TinkeringTurtle Received the Himiway two weeks ago, Installed the Grips, and throttle. Thanks for the great instructions.
Nice!
Your video's are great, the only thing I would have done different is to test the thumb throttle for proper operation BEFORE I put the grip and the end cap on so if there was a problem with a defective throttle I would know before I made more work for myself to uninstall it.
Thanks for the tip!
I actually did test it before I started the installation process. I just failed to put that in the video. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks Tim for the information, don't have my bikes yet but have ordered items you mentioned. Thanks for the links also!!!!
Glad to help!
awesome. your making this so easy for us to do. Thank you for all the great videos. you rock.
You are so welcome!
I did both throttle and grips, I also ordered Bolton disc brake hydraulic calipers.
What did you order from Bolton?
@@TinkeringTurtle Juintech M1 hydraulic calipers! Front and Rear
Brake Pads: (pads are included on the brakes)
They make the brakes much more efficient.
Thank you , excellent video very helpful !
Glad it was helpful!
Your videos are great
Thank you!
Richtig Super vielen Dank dafür liebe grüße aus GERMANY
My pleasure!
your videos are outstanding !
Glad you like them! Be sure to subscribe for future videos!
Love these grips!!
Me too!
Love your TH-cam Channel very helpful!
Thanks so much!
I hope you could explain a little bit about the mirror installation too. Thank you for the amazing video
For the cruiser and stepthru I go thru it in this video.
th-cam.com/video/EPhAltkfwqQ/w-d-xo.html
For the Escape, I cover it in this video.
th-cam.com/video/AKb-mcLf_3s/w-d-xo.html
For these examples I use new grips, but if you want to use the original grips you would need to cut a hole in the leather with an exacto knife, using the inside of the handle bar as a guide.
Do you still like that small of a mirror? Should the bike fall over, isn't that the "end" of the mirror? This Video is very good & I too am going to switch to thumb vs twist
Yes, the Hafny mirror is working out well. I have never liked the idea of having large mirrors on a bike. I just want something that allows me to not have to turn my head to see behind me.
Does this mirror give you a full view? I would say no, but I can see the critical things behind me that I am looking for. For example, I want to see my wife, cars coming, other bikes, etc. And it doesn’t overpower the look of the bike.
If the bike fell over to the left on a hard surface, yes the mirror would possibly break. That is probably true for a number of handle bar accessories. I am not too concerned about it.
I like the thumb throttle over the stock “twist” one. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Enjoy the ride!
Love your video Tim... I think it will pay off for you..my question is ..how are you liking the hand grips ? Has there been any modifications that you have done that you would change?
I like them. They lock on to the handle bars and don’t move at all. The only minor thing is the leather can slide (very slightly) side to side. But it hasn’t been any bother. It’s not like the original grips that rotated all the time. Those drove me nutty.
I have enjoyed all the modifications that we have done to this point. There aren’t any I would change. Each one has enhanced the experience of riding in some way!
@@TinkeringTurtle the wife and I just got our bikes yesterday and I’m doing some mods now. We went on a 5 mile ride today and loving it. I hope to do some video from here in East Tennessee. Thanks for all your help.
Great info thank you for being so detailed
Your welcome!
Outstanding!!!!!
Thank you!
you did an amazing Job thank you so much for sharing.. 🙏🙏
Thanks for watching!
blowing out my speakers with ur mic seat up my guy.
Sorry, I will work on it.
I went with the GOEXM Bike Handlebar Grips, and while they seemed fine at first, I would say that the microfiber leather is pretty flimsy. I ride mostly roads and while the leather hasn't fallen apart yet, it is starting to slide and stretch. And if you are mostly riding off-road or in challenging tracks, I am sure that they would fall apart pretty fast.
That is possible. I can say they have lasted a year now, and other than sliding around a little they still look pretty good on my bike. either way lots of options out there.
I had the same thing happen to me. See my comments. The GOEMX grips are hard to beat for esthetic look but I found the sliding and stretching on the rubber base very annoying.
Great video man
Appreciate it
Hi Turtle. Does the thumb throttle seem durable to you? Would this work on the Magicycle?
I have had mine over a year with absolutely no problems. I haven’t checked the connector on the Magicycle, but if it’s the same it absolutely should work.
Thanks for another great video.
Did you do this upgrade?
Love your videos, so informative and helpful. Thank you
You are so welcome!
Tim, I appreciate your informative how-to videos. Well done! Good news here, my Himiway bike arrives tomorrow. I cant wait to apply some of your suggested modifications. I'm curious, did you find the twist throttle a problem? Did you ever accidentaly twist it while maneuvering the bike and the bike lurch out of control?
I did accidentally hit the throttle once (no damages). But that isn’t what prompted me to do the change. To me it wasn’t comfortable holding the throttle at a given speed. Keep in mind that I grew up riding ATV’s, thumb throttles were the norm on them. So for me it is just more comfortable to use my thumb to feather the throttle. And I really like have a full grip on that side as well. The grips I chose will not rotate while riding, this is an issue I had with the stock grips.
In the end it really comes down to personal choice or preference.
Just the info I was looking for - thanks! Is this the same part/procedure for the Himiway Escape as well?
Yes, it is
Thanks for the video. Does the thumb throttle modulate the power the same as the twist? Or is it basically on/off?
It does modulate it. Pushing the thumb throttle half way gives you half power.
Awesome. Thanks for your videos!
My pleasure!
@@TinkeringTurtle Got my bike and have started on my mods. Bike had a rough trip across the pond and arrived scratched up, so it's getting a custom paint job as well. No structural damage thankfully.#iamthewarranty
Bummer about the scratches, new paint job sounds exciting though...
@@TinkeringTurtle Won't be black...
Would that thumb switch work on a Himiway Escape as well? Thanks! Great video
Yes it will. The twist throttle is exactly the same as the cruiser or stepthru. So the thumb throttles I linked in the description will also work on the Escape.
Hello I was wondering does the thumb throttle give power the same way as the twist throttle or does it give power quicker so the bike has a higher execration?
It is the same as a twist throttle. The only real difference is that the thumb throttle moves a little easier than the twist grip. (it takes less pressure)
@@TinkeringTurtle do you know any way to make the acceleration engage quicker?
Check out the ssp setting described in this video around 3 min into the video.
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Following your thumb throttle video step by step - can not get male/female connector apart - using all my strength pulling straight apart - spray it ? Slight twist ? Afraid of breaking it - Help
The arrows where they connect are lined up directly across from each other
DO NOT TWIST!
This connector goes straight together and straight apart. You don’t need spray...It takes a little strength, but it will come apart..with a pop. This is a water tight connection and so it is a little tight. Pull straight apart!
Tim, Is there any reason you could not install throttle on left-side on a Cruiser? On the couple of kit ebikes I have put together. I always have put the thumb throttle on left side. I'm used to it.
Good question, I don’t see any reason you could not install it on the left side. You just need to move things around and make room. The throttle can be used on either side.
Did you extend your handle bars higher and if so can you leave a link on where you found the extender...Thanks again
@@HornshawWoodWorks I already installed Wake 110 stem - would like about another inch more to raise handlebars - not sure how stem extender works with my Wake 110-cant see what it looks like on your wife's video of Thumb throttle Huyler Stagg
Did you do this upgrade?
TT, Great how to video. Will this thumb throttle work with the new zebra model?
My guess is yes. but someone that has the bike would need to pull apart the connector to check.
Thank you, products on the way. ✅
Hope you like it!
Great video, I just subscribed.
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Awesome really well explained! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you! 👍
Thanks for the tip, I did switch to a thumb throttle. I do notice a change that the pedal assist comes on faster than before. Is this part of the upgrade? or is there something else going on?
When I did the upgrade I did not notice any difference in the pedal assist. In truth upgrading to a thumb throttle should have no affect on the pedal assist system.
Could it just be that your hyper aware of it?
Hello Turtle can u add the thumb throddle to the magic cycle bike?
I haven’t switched over yet, but the Magicycle uses the same 3 pin connector as the Himiway does. I would be seriously surprised if the same thumb throttle didn’t work on the Magicycle. Links to those thumb throttles are in the description of my video. I would say yes.
@@TinkeringTurtle thanks turttle I'm going to by the magikcyle soon using TURTLE for the 100 discount
Great video, just subscribed
Awesome, thank you!
I just received my bike today and thanks to all your videos have it 98% completed. I ordered a thumb throttle and the one you have in this video is currently not available. I ordered from a different company. The male end is orange but it is the same as the yellow tipped one. In your video you stated to pull the connector straight out do not twist. I am having a hard time pulling the it apart. I am afraid if I pull to hard I will break it. Did you have to really muscle it apart.
Thanks
Your Welcome!
Just for clarity I have three thumb throttle links in the description of the video. The first one is the one I used for the video.
As far as pulling it apart, yes it is difficult. And you need to pull fairly hard. Get a good grip and slowly pull. It will likely making a small popping sound and come apart. I guess that’s the drawback of it being a water tight connection.
I hope this helps, let me know if you have any trouble.
Thanks Tim
I don't want the thumb throttle. Sounds like your fingers would be bumping all over the place, which would start to jerk the power all over too (I guess - although I don't know for sure since I've not tried one). I do want new handgrips though since the one that comes with the Himiway pulls off slowly with use, especially the half grip. So can you use new full-sized grips with the twist throttle that came with the Himiway or not?
I think you would run out of room on your handlebar. But there are lock-on grips that are made for twist throttles or grip shifters.
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@@TinkeringTurtle Thanks! I am going to just give the thumb throttle a try to see if I like it since I would rather the full-sized grips anyway.
Good luck!
@@TinkeringTurtle I just figured I should update this. I LOVE the thumb throttle I got on Amazon (suggested in this video). I thought I wouldn't like it as well as the original throttle, but I would not go back to the original throttle now even if I could use it with the full grips.
Do you know if there is a weaker rear shock spring that i could install on my escape. The spring that is standered on The bike is too heavy duty for me , i have to jump on them get a bounce.
Hi Dave, I haven’t done much research into this. Try to search for “ Motorcycle Shock Absorbers U-type” on Amazon or Google after measuring your current shock to ensure compatibility. Then find an adjustable shock that fits the bike.
You can look a “spring versions” or even an “air version”, like this one:
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(not guaranteeing to fit the Escape)
Good Luck!
Thank you again for your quick reply
It looks like your right-hand brake lever gets moved in by the space of the thumb throttle. Is that an issue? I mean does it feel comfortable to use the brake still? thx
absolutely, and if for some reason you don’t like it...just move it back! enjoy the ride!
Thanks for this and the others. Very helpful. But I was hoping you might start with why you wanted to switch from the twist throttle. :-) Is it perhaps something you explain in another video? (I just saw your unboxing one and now am watching others, and picked from most recent.) Thx.
I never really cared for the “half” twist throttle. I prefer the thumb throttle because I used to have an atv a long time ago. And it had a thumb style throttle.
Also some people say the thumb throttles are safer as you tend not to activate them on accident as much.
In addition to that the grips I bought to replace the stock ones, “lock” on to the handle bar and they don’t spin on the bar. The stock grips don’t lock or clamp on and they tend to spin on the bar albeit slowly, but it drives me nuts.
Thanks for watching, don’t forget to subscribe to see new videos when they come out.
@@TinkeringTurtle I used a trick I learned on my 3d printer to get parts to stick on the glass bed. "Aqua Net" hairspray works great on bike grips too. Spray on handlebar end and inside grip. If you put it on immediately it will slide on easily. Let it set overnight. No Problems since.
I’ve heard of that tip as well. Glad it worked!
I prefer something more mechanical and adjustable.
@@TinkeringTurtle Thanks for that. Makes sense. (And sorry I missed this the other day. I have fixed that.)
Are the brake cables and throttle cables made from galvanized or stainless metal?
The throttle is electrical, so probably copper. I am not certain about the brake cables.
We are wondering if these hand grips will fit our Himiway escape handlebar after we replace throttle with a thumb drive.
Unfortunately I don’t have an Escape. I would assume that the handle bars are the same diameter (7/8” or 22mm), but without having an Escape here there is no way for me to verify it. If that is the diameter then the grips will fit.
@@TinkeringTurtle Of course, what was I thinking. I will check with Himiway.
I put the thumb drive on and it works...throttles just fine but now my pedal assist...I cannot feel any difference between 1 or 7.
Hi Rob, the throttle type does not affect the pedal assist. And the main difference, with the pedal assist, is that level one will take you up to one speed and level 7 takes you to your max speed. The acceleration for each level should be fairly consistent.
@@TinkeringTurtle I dont really notice a difference between 1 and 7 now... I checked all connections again...weird
What do you mean by “feel”?
Are you saying that level 7 doesn’t take you to your max speed setting? Are you saying that level 1 takes you up to the same speed as level 7?
@@TinkeringTurtle I dont feel any power difference at all moving from 1 through 7. The thumb throttle definitely works with torque....If I am at level 7 which i think I have at 85 percent I dont feel there is much power assist while pedaling at that level...in fact if I thumb throttle at 7 it really kicks forward.. I pretty much have it set like your other video going through levels setting the power.
where can I purchase thumb throttles for my E Bike? does the 3 pin
yellow connector come with the entire unit?
Assuming you have a Himiway, the link to the thumb throttle (which is in the description of this video) is here:
Electric Bike Company Thumb Throttle
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This throttle has the proper connector for the Himiway.
ican used thumb trottle came mybe scooter thats has 36v and 10ah battery it compatible with hiwimay escape ebike?
Your question is a little difficult to understand. But I believe that the thumb throttle’s like this typically work with systems that range from 12v-72v. As long as the connector is the same you should be fine.
I hope this helps!
tnx for the reply
Is there a way when you turn on the power to have the assist come up as 0 instead of 1?
No, sorry.
Thank you for the videos Do any of these work for the himiway
Yes they do, all my videos are done on Himiways.
Tinkering Turtle I was asking if all ty he thumb throttle you have Listened in the comment work for Himiway
Yes all three thumb throttles that I list are compatible with the Himiway bikes.
How did you get the mirror on the original grip? There is not an opening on the end.
What mirror did you go with?
I am leaving my twist throttle but I want the clamp down grips do they make a short clamp one for the throttle side??
In theory you should be able to use grips designed for twist shifters. I recently ordered the grips linked below...but I have not received them yet. So I cannot verify how well they work.
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@@TinkeringTurtle those look correct and they do clamp.. thank you sir
WARNING: For impatient people like me I want to try and save you some time. First, Thumb Throttles come in male and female configurations. I went to Amazon and bought a Bafang Thumb Throttle. Problem was when I got it and unplugged my twist throttle low and behold the part on the bike side is a female connection, the bafang is also a female connection. SECOND: I love the turtle but for hard heads like me I wish he would have put more emphasis on how fragile the connection pins are. I was not too careful and flattened the pins when trying to reinstall my twist throttle. It is near impossible to straighten the pins after they are bent. So now I'm waiting for a new thumb throttle and have no throttle on my bike.
Sorry you had trouble. For future reference, I always include the component links in the description. In this case I included three links to thumb throttles that will work on Himiway bikes. Two have sold out and the third is still available.
As far as the pins you are correct they are fine and need some care when assembling. This is true for many parts of the bike and honestly fairly obvious the moment you look at them.
I hope you get thing worked out soon.
I don’t see a link for the parts, can anybody point me to them?
The links are in the video description.
Components:
Thumb throttle
Get the “WP” version.
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Alternate throttle listing in case the link above is out of stock.
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GOEXM Bike Handlebar Grips - use with thumb throttle above
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Hafny bar end bike mirror
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Dus it give full throttle
Yes, both the twist and thumb throttle give you full throttle.
You didnt give the part numbers
links to the parts are in the description
Tim does the thumb throttle come in different ID sizes? I don't own a Himiway e-bike. Thanks in advance,Anthony.
All the ones I have looked at are 7/8” (22.2mm) I.D.. I haven’t specifically searched for any other size.
Also having another bike you would want to verify the connector as well.
Good luck with your search!