Private Honda Tour with Dave Arnold | Exotic Motocross Bikes | Part 2
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- Part 1 ( • Private Honda Tour wit... ) of our tour of the private Honda Museum featured the early days of the HRC motorcycles, Part 2 of our Honda Works Bikes Tour with Dave Arnold includes more goodness and touches on the end of the works bikes and the beginning of the production rule which many in the sport thought would end Honda’s machinery advantage but instead, widened it. There’s no better guide than former HRC Honda Team Manager Dave Arnold to take us down this memory lane of when the Red Riders were the team to beat.
By Steve Matthes
Video by Jordan Powell
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Dave Arnold Pods 1&2 and these vids 1&2 are the best content you have ever put out. Have been following and or partaking in the sport since ‘77 and this nails the roots right up to the development we enjoy now. So good
Outstanding! On all fronts. Great back drop at Honda Headquarters. Great questions to lead and shape the interview, which can make or break you really. But even more greatness makes itself apparent when Dave rips off his answers like all these events happened last weekend. Amazing memory to say the least. The engineers behind the scenes need to be brought into the limelight much more. Yes, the riders are the ones in our faces, getting noticed, all part of the marketing process, which drives sales and ultimately creates the budgets for R&D, but man, the “Dave’s” of racing really are hero’s. Nuff said.
I remember riding my friend's '74 125 Elsinore without much experience and it scarred the crap out of me. This got me hooked, although I never owned a Honda (apart from a quad that I won). I still have old magazines with Dave Arnold getting a lot of ink, along with Marty Smith and Tommy Croft. Honda's works bikes were the ultimate and Dave Arnold is such a laid- back interview, along with having such a great memory concerning these bikes. His HOF induction is well deserved. Only wish they had one of the early Type ll's on display.
Absolutely amazing interview! I graduated in 81 and lived in antelope valley. Met Bob Hannah out in the desert as well as many others. Best era bikes will ever have!
True free enterprise was damaged with the 1986 production rule, and destroyed by the EPA forced 4-stroke. Now, we make and buy what a dictatorship desires, and boy does it cost the industry, (any industry).
Awsome vid.Dave is a legendary reason for Moto success today.I don't feel his caliber is still around in today's Moto world.
Heard this mans name many times but never heard him speak. Thank you for getting these stories out!
more of this please. fascinating, insightful, the deeper it gets, the more we watch!! much love from massachusetts 🏁🇺🇸
Just wow....great show
Awesome videos. What a treat to hear all those stories. Thank You, Dave Arnold! And well done by Steve.
That was excellent, thanks for letting the guy talk, good interviewing technique.
I raced an '85 CR 125, 250 and' 86 125. The '86 125 was my all time favorite
Great interview, lots of cool and interesting info. Thanks, Steve!
Now this is something worth watching!! Thank you for the info, memories and I even learned a few things. Great stuff!
Really a great interview. Dave was the guy behind it, getting it done, with Roger. I'm guessing David Bailey was his favorite rider? He's too diplomatic to say. Great historically accurate info. Well done and thank you.
#25 Bob Hannah’s 85 RC 250 🤘
Talking about Bars, Bob only ride Answer bars, long time relationship with Answer. but Renthal was 86, 85 was Bobs last year on Honda.
Thank you that was an awesome interview 👍
the 86 cr"s are the best looking bikes of all time.
1000%!
best looking production bikes def, had a CR125R best bike I ever owned, 2nd was 93 250R
One hell of a history lesson. I really appreciated it because I was around when the Honda Elsie came out. It was all about moving those shocks forward and an FMF pipe and you had a very competitive MX bike for any given Sunday.
The FMF aluminum banana swing arm was really trick too.
Cool interview Steve.!
Excellent video. Great to have this MX history spoken from the creators, before we expire.
thank you, watched part one three times
David Bailey..............nuff said.
Nicely done, some of Matthes best work. I bleed Honda red like most people watching these
Solid!!!! Great job SM!
BEST CONTENT EVER!
I really enjoyed those 2 videos well done.
I remember reading an interview where David Bailey said 1985 was kind of a off year for him because he had so much prior success. He stated he let the success go to his head and he lost some of his hunger because of the championships and the money was good, in fact, I remember him saying he pulled an Emig. Referring to Jeff Emig slacking off after he beat McGrath in Supercross and in the outdoors in 1997.
PART 2 THANKS ALL THE BEST JRHESS#76 MCGEE
I did a bit of engine work to my 1988 CR250, not much. I just cleaned up the ports a bit, added epoxy to the rear hooks, and put as big of a radius on the HPP finger keepers, (not the valves themselves, but what they slid in and out of), as I could and not open a gap when the fingers were closed, and lowered the gearing 2 teeth on the rear and used the stock pipe. It was still soft on the bottom (like compared to my 97 KX250 for sure), but that thing was the fastest 250 I ever had from the mid range on up. I always got a great start with it and it was the only bike I won races on. It had to be over 45hp, maybe getting close to 50. I know my 2019 YZ250 2-stroke, (stock, claimed 45hp) would not touch it. I think it was the fastest bike I ever had. The only thing I did not like about it was pretty bad fork dampening, a tendency to head shake, (stiffer springs helped a lot), and a linkage bolt that would bend.
Matthes was referring to the '94 YPVS cylinder in the '98 YZ's used by JMG.
Awesome video matthes
Awesome. Thanks
There are two bike manufacturers above the rest to me: Honda & TM Racing. These two bike brands are the best I've ever owned, and they make me happy even when I can't ride them - it's like a double marriage almost! lmbo I'll take the Honda 450 and the TM Racing 300 2 stroke to the very end of internal combustion engine dirt bikes, and hopefully 30-40 years longer!!!!! 💪
Guess after that I'll get a Stark Future Varg...but I won't like it as much...smh
THAT IS COOL
WOW great videos, super informative!
It seemed to me after working in the Mt. Bike industry, that frame material did not make much difference when it came to weight, especially when comparing aluminum to chrome molly steel. (Ti. and carbon fiber may have had a bit of a weight advantage.). As it turned out, aluminum is about 1/3rd the weight of steel by volume, but they had to use about 3 times as much to match the strength of steel.
There's an interview on TH-cam Racer X interviews Dave Arnold part 1 and 2 part 2 He describes 88 89 90 being Hondas best Motors closet to a factor motor you could get He says compared to the rest
....according to either RJ or Bailey, what really happened to O'Mara is that Suzuki offered a more lucrative contract for 1987 compared to what Honda were offering.
I hope you have find Dave's 3 wheeler counter part at hrc team honda... anybody know Bob "ace" Williams???? I know there was rivalry between 2 and 3 wheels but I hope to see a sit down like this for the ATC team leaders
You're talking about the three-wheel Baja team, right?
@@americandirtrider7662 possibly, I'm not entirely sure still putting the pieces together
In Trying to research what I have the name ace Williams came up, I'm not sure what I have is tied to him in any way bug I'm looking for all the info I can find
Three wheelers are death traps. Quads suck too.
@@stayathome2 Not saying that I would own either one. But my dad has a photo with Dave and the HRC teams all together, back from the late 80s. There are three guys in that photo that ran the Baja 1000 on a 3 wheeler. I can't even imagine how brutal that would have been.
Why not showing more of the bikes and parts. It's still possible to hear what is said.
Dave is amazing, Steve, buddy you need to work on your knowledge of motocross history before 1980, there is way too much that brings context to the rest of motocross history. It was called the golden era of motocross for a reason.
I think all of the racer-x affiliates are that way. Not very knowledgeable, with a tape recorder (recording in a fog), for a brain.
It looks like his 1995 model doesn’t it red rear guard
biggest regret was selling my CAS Honda 2001CR500R RWJ motored beast I've tried to find it for years .....
We are stupid. We can't figure out that after team USA won 5 MXofN years in a row, that it was the FIM who pushed for the 1986 production rule "in the USA only" to stop bike factory development in the USA. Yamaha still made works bikes, so that argument is false. And the AMA is just an arm of the FIM.
Can we stop being stupid? I guess not.
I don’t know if you got your facts all straight there. But the production rule was aimed mostly at Honda.
If it's not broke why fix it.
Fixing does not mean improving. You can't fix something that is not broken, but everything can be improved.
This content is the best I’ve ever seen on TH-cam. Absolutely loved this piece🙌🏻 Dave Arnold is outstanding
The MOTOCROSS VAULT brought me here.