Gyle, you always apologize for "zooming in-and-out", but I'm puzzled as to why? I LOVE how you cover these games and zooming in on interesting events is part of the charm. Never stop zoomin' boyo! : D
0:56 - No news? That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Forged Alliance us currently on sale for €1,99 on Steam, for another 20h! I've convinced 5 people to buy it today. How about you, TH-cam?
Man do I miss Gyle casts, been over on the Brink side of FAF a bit too long, it’s strange to see the units again! always loved your balance of strategic view and getting up close on the action, not to mention the commentary, not too loud/quiet, not overly esthetic, but still conveys the flow of the game perfectly.
Yeah I think the Mavor is far more accurate and therefore better at taking out individual buildings quickly (especially nuke defences which then let you clear out the whole base with the nuke). Scathis is great for just causing random damage and keeping your opponent busy rebuilding random stuff.
@@diliff Salvation is still the best - decent at both target killing (as it spreads its damage pretty evenly over its area) and at large scale devastation (since it hits a large area). Mavor is great for precision, and Scathis for coverage, but Aeon can do both pretty well. You can even use the Salvation pretty effectively against mobile armies!
@@ArawnOfAnnwn salvation is not great at killing buildings and terrible against units (each projectile doesn't do enough damage or AOE). It's more of a shield breaker than anything. Seems to work best with regular T3 arty. Salvation breaks the shields, regular arty comes in after and takes out buildings far better.
@@diliff Sure Salvation doesn't have damage, it's not meant to - it makes up for that with rapid-fire bombardment. Death through a thousand cuts can be just as deadly as a few big swings.
The Scathis is actually quite well balanced. Against a spread out base/eco it's quite good. It shreds spread unshielded bases. But in the case of a well shielded, more focused base it struggles to even penetrate the shields. It's like the opposite of the Mavor. You can also still move it which is a really nice little bonus especially if it gets spotted and targeted. You could move it to a new position or another well shielded portion of your base. With mobile stealth Gen it could be annoying to deal with.
@@nonepppppppp Salvation is still the best - decent at both target killing (as it spreads its damage pretty evenly over its area) and at large scale devastation (since it hits a large area). Mavor is great for precision, and Scathis for coverage, but Aeon can do both pretty well. You can even use the Salvation pretty effectively against mobile armies!
What a beautiful Game, and of course what a beautiful cast. And the video is running till the end :) . That throws me back at the glorious casts when Zock plays. Well done "Voice of FAF" .
Wow! What an incredible cast! Both teams did exactly what their factions favor, UEF brute force and Cybrans adaptability. My only gripe is that my favorite Cybran unit, the Salem, was a no show;( but that scathis tho, I didn't know they buffed that!! Excellent Gyle, great work on the cast
On the other hand if kot had used salems at any point he could have held the land bridge and stopped entry into the north pond. I feel like I was praying for salems through the entire match XD unless they've been nerfed recently?
He indeed lost because of it. He could've build that Mavoir earlier, or some Fat Boys to clear out everything on the land, but instead tried to invade the enemy base with Titans (it' understandable tho, blue has been fighting for over an hour, I admire and respect these players)
It does cost close to it if Im not wrong. And personally, while it looks cool, it takes forever to actually deal any substantial damage to anything with a Scathis. Mavor / Salvation are much better at destroying bases, especially since you can snipe SMD with them.
Salvation is still the best - decent at both target killing (as it spreads its damage pretty evenly over its area) and at large scale devastation (since it hits a large area). Mavor is great for precision, and Scathis for coverage, but Aeon can do both pretty well. You can even use the Salvation pretty effectively against mobile armies!
Stop apologizing for zooming in and out Gyle. There is absolutely nothing about your castings that irritates me. Your commentary is always as epic as this game was. Keep up the good work. That said, this game was an absolute treat to watch. Well played by both players.
I love how Kot let his opponent know that he had misclicked or something with his com and was going to lose if he didn't move it. That's great sportsmanship.
hi, i have a question. in this and in another matches before i dont see any player using engi´s or mcu for supporting shield dome to switch the passiv reg to activ reg "how mcu shield reg" with fast recovery. :)
Game seems to have been updated a lot by FAF in the many years since I played. That scathis was crazy and I thought nukes erased all shields and just.... boooom? No? Must be something changed over the many years. I don't remember anything being able to take a direct nuke but then again that was a strategical missile sub nuke so its weaker right? Was nice to listen to this while doing chores.
I was constantly waiting for Inspektor Kot to make use of some stealth boats, especially with the cruiser and battleship squads, or for that short lived naval base close to Isen's base. Similarly stealth towers or mobile vehicles on land in the base.
New to FAF, what's the best way to learn how to play competitively? Also is accumulated mass simply the sum of all income over time or is it the sum of the costs of all things someone has still on the map?
if you want to become better in 1v1 you should watch a few of heavens and jagged appliances videos. heavens bit outdated but basics still hold true. jagged does replay comments on highlvl 1v1s and you can learn a ton. But in the end only thing that will get you better is playing a lot of 1v1s. dont go in for team games like astrocrater, no matter how much "fun" you can have there. its the 1v1s that train you to take care of stuff, get an idea of map control, eco balancing and so forth
Ive been gone for a while gyle. But im back. Good to see your still active. I now feel old. But hearing a fellow british voice makes me know your quality has only got better.
Me: "Oh look a Gyle Cast. The video is 1hr 54min so that should be a nice 1 hour and 15 minute game." Never been happier to be wrong! Excellent cast, excellent game.
One thing I've always wondered is, why do the Aeon get five experimentals, more than anyone else? Good to see Cybrans finally have a real game-ender level artillery experimental comparable to the mavor and salvation.
Well the Salvation was originally "just" a T3 in vanilla FA, despite being as expensive and powerful as many experimentals. It was only reclassed as an experimental recently by the FAF devs.
I dont see why people dont destroy that hord of naval bombardment with nukes, t3 artys because the naval bombardment is what ultimatly kills you in setons because it kills your chance of expansions and your squeezed to death. Longest mistake still of setons games.
Yeah, that bugged me, too. Kot had all the time to pepper that fleet with his Disruptors. But, as Gyle mentioned, he was probably already suffering from "SupCom fatigue".
Im surprised that isen didnt include a sup com/t3 engi with his continental landings. Its good to drop some offensive units and shield them + build AA asap. In such a 1v1 game where attention is spread out, its actually quite good go drop only engis and build stealth gen as soon as u land. Then keep building a new base until u are detected.
Hello i just reinstall this game on windows 10 64bit pro via steam and for some reason im not getting any audio when mission briefing or intro just music ???? and when exiting the game i get white gray box cannot close it in task manager but to restart pc to get rid of it been trying to run this game for years now kinda miss it :) but no luck from my end, everything is updatet on my end btw. ty for the upload subscribed :)
I would have liked one of the Mavis to at least get a few shots off. Good game either way. I’m surprised the fat boys were used quite do recklessly but I think he saw blood but underestimated the south sea forces.
@@JLH111176 Probably cos the length is a lot shorter. If this game had had more action, it likely would've just ended much earlier (as those other games do).
Inspektor Kot warning the opponent after he forgot about his commander must have been the nicest thing I've seen yet. (at 9:00)
He's an awesome person.
Yeah, that was classy.
A gentleman warrior
Yes very good sport. I wonder if its a sound issue or bug? You normally get a warning if your commander is under attack.
@@James-dc3yt hes com was probably under attack for a while...and he acknowledged the first warning and that's it.
Gyle, you always apologize for "zooming in-and-out", but I'm puzzled as to why? I LOVE how you cover these games and zooming in on interesting events is part of the charm. Never stop zoomin' boyo! : D
Even I get spectator fatigue watching, hats off to the players.
0:56 - No news? That's where you're wrong, kiddo.
Forged Alliance us currently on sale for €1,99 on Steam, for another 20h!
I've convinced 5 people to buy it today. How about you, TH-cam?
I bought two, for my cousins.
saw this. did buy
Bro i cant believe Kot was such a nice guy at 9:00 like what a true homie
He's a true competitor. He wanted a good game more then losing or winning.
Never giving up, even at the end. Mad respect for these guys.
U
I share my gratitude to all those people that put in so much work to keep Forged Alliance going. Thank you all!
10M!!! I'm shocked!
Thank you Gyle for doing your great part.
About the game: UEF vs Cybran - classics.
Oh my god, that Scathis isn't an artillery piece, it's an automated explosive bukkakke device!
Very occasionally i watch a few of these. So nice to always find this guy enthusiastically doing his shit.
Fantastic, just what the dr ordered. Beer and Gyle cast.
Man do I miss Gyle casts, been over on the Brink side of FAF a bit too long, it’s strange to see the units again!
always loved your balance of strategic view and getting up close on the action, not to mention the commentary, not too loud/quiet, not overly esthetic, but still conveys the flow of the game perfectly.
so Scathis is now t4 minigun arty.
This is so soviet.
''so now'' , NO.
Scathis always was rapid fire arty.
Idk the scathis spray is great for killing armies, but trash for experimentals and bases. The Mavor is unstoppable when it comes to bases
Yeah I think the Mavor is far more accurate and therefore better at taking out individual buildings quickly (especially nuke defences which then let you clear out the whole base with the nuke). Scathis is great for just causing random damage and keeping your opponent busy rebuilding random stuff.
@@diliff Salvation is still the best - decent at both target killing (as it spreads its damage pretty evenly over its area) and at large scale devastation (since it hits a large area). Mavor is great for precision, and Scathis for coverage, but Aeon can do both pretty well. You can even use the Salvation pretty effectively against mobile armies!
@@ArawnOfAnnwn salvation is not great at killing buildings and terrible against units (each projectile doesn't do enough damage or AOE). It's more of a shield breaker than anything. Seems to work best with regular T3 arty. Salvation breaks the shields, regular arty comes in after and takes out buildings far better.
@@diliff Sure Salvation doesn't have damage, it's not meant to - it makes up for that with rapid-fire bombardment. Death through a thousand cuts can be just as deadly as a few big swings.
wow that was like the perfect game, showcased the game at its best so close, great cast!!!
I'm astonishingly surprised that a uef player got out turtled by a cybran.
The Scathis is actually quite well balanced. Against a spread out base/eco it's quite good. It shreds spread unshielded bases. But in the case of a well shielded, more focused base it struggles to even penetrate the shields. It's like the opposite of the Mavor.
You can also still move it which is a really nice little bonus especially if it gets spotted and targeted. You could move it to a new position or another well shielded portion of your base. With mobile stealth Gen it could be annoying to deal with.
exacly what i was thinking, seems pretty well balanced actually (if the cost is there)
This is precisely why it seemed to be so effective, it coudn't miss, isen had a literal fuck ton of stuff all over the entire map.
@@nickcrispino6575 thats why it should cost as much as a mavor then its fine really
@@nonepppppppp Salvation is still the best - decent at both target killing (as it spreads its damage pretty evenly over its area) and at large scale devastation (since it hits a large area). Mavor is great for precision, and Scathis for coverage, but Aeon can do both pretty well. You can even use the Salvation pretty effectively against mobile armies!
That's my evening sorted!
crack open a beer eh!
Same here man, it's playing on my xbox right now lol
Gyle, you had me at, "Strap-In, and Prepare The Lotion".
What a beautiful Game, and of course what a beautiful cast. And the video is running till the end :) . That throws me back at the glorious casts when Zock plays. Well done "Voice of FAF"
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wow your pumping casts out quick thanks always makes my day to watch one in the evening :D
Wow! What an incredible cast! Both teams did exactly what their factions favor, UEF brute force and Cybrans adaptability. My only gripe is that my favorite Cybran unit, the Salem, was a no show;( but that scathis tho, I didn't know they buffed that!! Excellent Gyle, great work on the cast
27:35 Oof, look at all that friendly fire.
Watching this in Aug 2022. The world has changed. I found myself yearning for something from the before times.
If Isen used split target for his torp bombers and governors he could've won this 50 times by now.
Ctrl+drag square all over front base
Alternatively select pinpoint targets and hit shift z. It will assign an even number of units to each
On the other hand if kot had used salems at any point he could have held the land bridge and stopped entry into the north pond.
I feel like I was praying for salems through the entire match XD unless they've been nerfed recently?
Nice and cozy in bed, turn TV on, get Gyle notification. Use TV to comfortably watch quality cast in bed.
Nice.
Inspektor_Kot not building that 4th Mex near his Land Factory at the start... triggered me so much xD
I like how you mixed it up with the non anti spoiler
2:14 "Examine their glorious openings..."
2nd or 3rd cerberus could have been placed a little further forward tho
That ride of valkyries humming was hilarious, made my day
The Scathis is utterly terrifying I can imagine that on a fully developed base it'll be hell even better than the rapid fire artillery
y'know, i never thought I'd say that i could watch something all day, but BOY could i watch t3 artillery wrecking a base all day
Love this game! this match in particular, shout out to both players for tenacity and fighting hard
1:29:00 some of the mexes were disabled by the nuke emp. Not reclaim related. In case anybody cares.
Gyle you are a complete monster man keep up the cast bro
How does he not start a game-ender when his mass income crosses 1k?
pfeilspitze fatigue
He indeed lost because of it.
He could've build that Mavoir earlier, or some Fat Boys to clear out everything on the land, but instead tried to invade the enemy base with Titans (it' understandable tho, blue has been fighting for over an hour, I admire and respect these players)
Gyle: "Strap in"
Herbert: "did you say strap in or strap on?"
Man that Scathis is completely mad. perhaps a price similar to a Paragon would balance it out
It does cost close to it if Im not wrong. And personally, while it looks cool, it takes forever to actually deal any substantial damage to anything with a Scathis. Mavor / Salvation are much better at destroying bases, especially since you can snipe SMD with them.
Salvation is still the best - decent at both target killing (as it spreads its damage pretty evenly over its area) and at large scale devastation (since it hits a large area). Mavor is great for precision, and Scathis for coverage, but Aeon can do both pretty well. You can even use the Salvation pretty effectively against mobile armies!
Stop apologizing for zooming in and out Gyle. There is absolutely nothing about your castings that irritates me. Your commentary is always as epic as this game was. Keep up the good work. That said, this game was an absolute treat to watch. Well played by both players.
I love how Kot let his opponent know that he had misclicked or something with his com and was going to lose if he didn't move it. That's great sportsmanship.
great game and great cast - thanks Gyle
hi, i have a question. in this and in another matches before i dont see any player using engi´s or mcu for supporting shield dome to switch the passiv reg to activ reg "how mcu shield reg" with fast recovery. :)
Great game! How very fitting that the final blow was dealt by a torpedo bomber :D
Keep up the content, this game is so cool to watch
I really think we should have one race in this game - The mighty Cybran
Game seems to have been updated a lot by FAF in the many years since I played. That scathis was crazy and I thought nukes erased all shields and just.... boooom? No? Must be something changed over the many years. I don't remember anything being able to take a direct nuke but then again that was a strategical missile sub nuke so its weaker right?
Was nice to listen to this while doing chores.
Yeah, a sub-nuke is considerably weaker, only dealing 45k damage If Im not mistaken.
I think 20km maps are too big for 1v1, it just results in endless stalemate situations
gyle you really do have the best intros
I was constantly waiting for Inspektor Kot to make use of some stealth boats, especially with the cruiser and battleship squads, or for that short lived naval base close to Isen's base. Similarly stealth towers or mobile vehicles on land in the base.
After seeing this, I'd like to see more 1 v 1 on Setons!
1v1 on a 4v4 map, the level of macro and attention, it makes my brain hurt just thinking about it.
Woo~ Temblor Bomb!
But we need an ace pilot to deliver it...
Anyone know what the default keys are for panning around the camera and also zooming in?
Quality play from both of them, hard to know which way it was going at times.
Best cast ever. Please find more replays with scathys so we hear you laughing more.
All these videos - Gyle your spoiling us
Not really, he used to upload two times a week back in the days.
Any video is greatly appreciated Gyle don't mind the naysayers. It takes time to view so many game replays - let alone set aside a SOLID 114 MINUTES 😎
Love the casts, Gyle! Keep it up!
What a ridiculous game. Bravo warriors.
New to FAF, what's the best way to learn how to play competitively?
Also is accumulated mass simply the sum of all income over time or is it the sum of the costs of all things someone has still on the map?
The accumulated mass is the amount of mass each team has harvested and extracted over the course of the game, only way to learn is to practice :D
Play a few games (would recommend ladder), then find a trainer if you want to learn more
if you want to become better in 1v1 you should watch a few of heavens and jagged appliances videos. heavens bit outdated but basics still hold true. jagged does replay comments on highlvl 1v1s and you can learn a ton.
But in the end only thing that will get you better is playing a lot of 1v1s. dont go in for team games like astrocrater, no matter how much "fun" you can have there. its the 1v1s that train you to take care of stuff, get an idea of map control, eco balancing and so forth
Ive been gone for a while gyle. But im back. Good to see your still active. I now feel old. But hearing a fellow british voice makes me know your quality has only got better.
Neat watching these old ones :)
Game time - 1:54:36. Yep, no anti-spoiler - it's really that long. :D
The Temblor bomb! Can't forget the time Gimli asked me to genocide a planet of cat people.
First time watching this. Disconnect your doorbell HAHA lmao
ooooooo epic ladder :D, how did I miss this.
Me: "Oh look a Gyle Cast. The video is 1hr 54min so that should be a nice 1 hour and 15 minute game." Never been happier to be wrong!
Excellent cast, excellent game.
noob question here. wtf happened to the experimental artillery? does this game still get balance patches? I so surprised, this game is so old
FAF is a client made by fans and yes, they are doing patches still to this day.
Just watching this video has fried my brain... BUT SO FUN TO WATCH!! MORE UNIT SPAM BAYBEE!! : D
Scathis could maybe do less damage?
Or have a longer reload time?
One thing I've always wondered is, why do the Aeon get five experimentals, more than anyone else?
Good to see Cybrans finally have a real game-ender level artillery experimental comparable to the mavor and salvation.
Well the Salvation was originally "just" a T3 in vanilla FA, despite being as expensive and powerful as many experimentals. It was only reclassed as an experimental recently by the FAF devs.
1:08:24 I wouldn't call isen riff-raff but he certainly doesn't dress for all occations...
Classic 😂
I dont see why people dont destroy that hord of naval bombardment with nukes, t3 artys because the naval bombardment is what ultimatly kills you in setons because it kills your chance of expansions and your squeezed to death. Longest mistake still of setons games.
Yeah, that bugged me, too. Kot had all the time to pepper that fleet with his Disruptors. But, as Gyle mentioned, he was probably already suffering from "SupCom fatigue".
After all that happened, dying to torpedo bombers is just underwhelming :D
This game has more comebacks than Take That!
He should have done a split-attack on the red TMDs and then on the T2 Artys with all his Cruisers. It took so long to kill all these single targets :D
at 27:40 kot is slaughtering himself with his mobile arty cause they are aiming for the percys XD
Would like to know how far off Isens nuke subs were from completing. Really wanted to see that nuke spam!
Was this a game where Loyalist Tactical missile redirection made a huge difference and killed the cruisers that the Scathis didn't get?
Really hurt me not to see patrolling T1 interceptors along the coasts early on from Isen.
Ty
Damn I havnt played this in years. I played with my dad back then. Is there a way to still play online???
just search forged alliance forever on google and install it
yes but you need to download the Forged alliance forever Louncher than you can play online in ranked matches or fight against the AI.
Im surprised that isen didnt include a sup com/t3 engi with his continental landings. Its good to drop some offensive units and shield them + build AA asap. In such a 1v1 game where attention is spread out, its actually quite good go drop only engis and build stealth gen as soon as u land.
Then keep building a new base until u are detected.
Out of lotion after this.
Looks like both players were fighting against the 1k unit cap for most of that game. No room for units when your buildings alone use up half of it.
Hello i just reinstall this game on windows 10 64bit pro via steam and for some reason im not getting any audio when mission briefing or intro just music ???? and when exiting the game i get white gray box cannot close it in task manager but to restart pc to get rid of it been trying to run this game for years now kinda miss it :) but no luck from my end, everything is updatet on my end btw. ty for the upload subscribed :)
Pure sportsmanship
I love this channel!
I would have liked one of the Mavis to at least get a few shots off. Good game either way. I’m surprised the fat boys were used quite do recklessly but I think he saw blood but underestimated the south sea forces.
Well done!
the ratio of action to game length didn't seem as good as usual to me
You’re never going to find a 1 and a half hour game with more action
@@fodin6813 usually the casts have a better ratio of action to length though
It’s a 1v1 at the end of the day, and a really unique one that deserved to be casted
@@JLH111176 Probably cos the length is a lot shorter. If this game had had more action, it likely would've just ended much earlier (as those other games do).
One day, there will be a person in ladder who spams the crap out of scathis
Nice video
3:02 All those *A*eons ago?? lol... Freudian slip...
Great game, really swingy.
First thought - 2 hours, jesus christ...
Never click this so 🚀🚀🚀🏃🏃🏃
That was exhausting, I need to hit the showers after watching.
Hey Gyle, I don't want to support Patreon because of their pro-censorship approach, so I've just sent you a donation on paypal. Love your work moite
Totally understand, if i was just starting out i would pick a different platform. Thanks so much for the support!
Very epic war
Hartland vs sea power