community has brought it a LONG way. There's really no other RTS out right now thats more intense and tactical. Like jagged had that win in the bag with 75% of the map and still lost to some really tactical plays.
fantastically executed come back. love to see more of these. too often do games snow ball so hard you usually know who's going to win about half way through. fantastic stand off game play from the uef player
Hm, the problem there probably was that Jagged did not realize he had such an immense advantage in economy. If he had known that, he would have easily been able to pump out units that could make a big impact. Turin on the other hand just managed to invest the economy he had into some impactful units, and thus change the game around, without Jagged really being able to catch up.
I even managed to hit a T1 bomber on a UEF-ACU with a completely upgraded rocket module (tactic nuke) flying right over my commander. The Commander fortunately stood in the water, did not take any damage. But the bomber was gone anyway. Supreme Commander was way ahead of all other games back then, not just in terms of multi-core CPU utilization.
@@scobia8321 Yeah. I suffered an unfortunate situation. Lol. I died when my ACU was assisting a nuke sub. Nuke launched and hit a battleship right above in the water.
That was some first-rate Gyle entertainment! Extremely exciting stuff. Thank you, Gyle. P.S.: The last Average Joes made me think seriously about getting back to FA. Just by watching your casts for so long (at least two years now) I think I know more about viable unit choices and tactis in the game as some of these guys. ^^
The moment the game devolved into an artillery duel, jagged lost. I don't get why any Cybran would play in that way -- Cybran has the worst shields and worst T3 arty... it's like trying to win a singing contest with a sore throat.
He had naval dominance, land superiority and even air superiority for a while. And what does he choose to do? Fall back to standoff. -_- Even if you want to standoff, make a damn Scathis at least with all that eco. Or maybe some bugs to break through and take out those nuke launchers and/or artillery. I think he just got tired and wanted to play in a more relaxed manner halfway through.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn my friends and I call it cce critical command exhaustion, everyone hits A point where their mind can't go all out with micro anymore and mistakes begin to be made.
how tf do they play so well?!!? 9 mins in, 1865865 factories and a sh*tton of eco... 9 mins in, I have four facs and run dangerously low on eco, and have just started to consider t2...
FAF: Definitive Edition. Lul. Now that would be sweet. Just need to update the models and terrain. Make the campaigns less a horde mode for multiple strategies. Maybe make BO mod official since the FAF team are slowly introducing over the years BO units. I want my ACU to be a god at endgame, not something that sits in a base waiting to get nuked.
I acquired this game back in 07 when it came out. However my cpu couldn’t handle it hardly at all. I now have a beefy cpu!! Gonna pick this masterpiece back up.
Someone can explain to me the difference between all the Supreme Commanders? Why people says Forge Alliance or Forge Alliance Forever is the best also is it an extension or a game alone? I'm so confused
Its the stand alone expansion to supcom that included everything from the original game (except maybe some of the campaign, I forget it was ages ago). SC2 was supposed to be the sequel but it was really dumbed down. That was like a decade ago, the community took over FA and now it's the coolest and still one of the best looking RTS around. Pay attention to the detail of the guns, the way arc and trajectory affect the weapons (like different races artillery have different arc angles and are more effective vs others over hills etc). Position of turrets on units affects how they can direct fire. Even top machines today get mediocre "cpu ratings" in online matches because of the detail of all the calculations.
@@waitwho3074 Community took over development and balancing/bux fixing. And created an online client with a detailed matchmaking and ladder system as well as integrated source of maps and mods. As you can see thousands of people watch the streams.
@@waitwho3074 GPG the creator no longer exists. This game is OLD. It's currently available on steam and to play FAF you need a valid licensed copy of the original game, the client checks. You cannot play FAF on pirated versions of the game. No copyright infringement and no competition since the core games online functionality no longer exists. FAF is just bringing in extra sales of the game on steam for people who want to play and don't have their original CDs.
are there no counters to the satellites? Been forever since I played sup com so don't remember anything about them, but Jagged didn't do anything about them.
He tried strat bombing and artillery, its basically a fancy artillery piece. The only way to defeat them is to blow the building up, that or sufficient shielding.
It's on sale for £1.79 at the moment store.steampowered.com/app/9420/Supreme_Commander_Forged_Alliance/ And then you need the free FAF client faforever.com/ I hope you haven't lost interest after five months :)
@@GyleCast ha....THE GYLE!....yeah dude might just do a quick reinstall see if it works.....textures are looking a bit better? or am i just thinking this?
Mendicant Bias i think he threw it by accident. he was trying to out turtle yellow, which was never gonna happen. if he pushed the naval front and air a bit more instead he wouldve won, his thought process was probably "well, im winning everywhere else, why not get some artillery?" and that killed him. gg.
53:25 Turinturamber loses half his air for a few bombers. Gyle: "Costly and unproductive" Still not sure what happened was it an artilery hit on the ASFs?
Jagged had naval dominance, land superiority and even air superiority for a while. And what does he choose to do? Fall back to standoff. -_- Even if you want to standoff, make a damn Scathis at least with all that eco. Or maybe some bugs to break through and take out those nuke launchers and/or artillery. I think he just got tired and wanted to play in a more relaxed manner halfway through.
This is why i disagree with the novax buffs. They were a good turtletool with harassmentcapabilities and a damage per mass ratio similar to t3 arty. But now they just dominate the badlands. aspecialy cybrin gett destroyed as they relie on stealth wich getts completely negated aswell as their lack of mobile shields to protect the units on the march.
jagged played with the wrong mindset. no scouting from him even tho he had air superiority! this killed him. if he kept scouting like the yellow guy did, he would've picked off the novas early.
Not if used correctly, methinks. If JA had send his ASFs in first before the Bombers to distract enemy ASFs and SAMs, the Starts may have had much more success.
should have gone at least a single cruiser before destroyers. cybran navy is weak to air, and he had 0 air control. edit: as i wrote this the cruiser were being pumped out. nice.
When you have no chance of winning with skill build Satalite xD Sad watching this thought the Cybran would use his Advantige and build T3 Units instead of T3 Static Arty..... Poor choices!
Je joue sous le pseudo benikikok, c est un nouveau compte, rank 0 pour l instant mais j étais 1200 environ y a 2 3 ans. S il y a une communauté francophone, ça me brancherai bien de me refaire des Seton ou Gap of rohan ( et leurs variantes). A plus!
So much needless apm forced by absurd lack of automation. RTS #1 flaw, no standing orders, no best practice baked into unit AI AT ALL, tragic. Real time baby sitting.
i havent played this game in nearly a decade, I had forgotten about it. Thanks for sharing.
community has brought it a LONG way. There's really no other RTS out right now thats more intense and tactical. Like jagged had that win in the bag with 75% of the map and still lost to some really tactical plays.
This game was never meant to be for faint hearted RTS players and that's a fact :) Thanks Gyle for the cast . Excellent job ! :)
Notice at 1:00:17, Jagged upgraded his shields to 99%, so if they blinked off, he could resume the upgrade and instantly recharge them to full?
WOW, thats something new
And I forget to build T1 power
@@Motherslapper lmao
Your casts are always delightful, Gyle. Best voice of the casters. Loud and clear.
fantastically executed come back. love to see more of these. too often do games snow ball so hard you usually know who's going to win about half way through. fantastic stand off game play from the uef player
Hm, the problem there probably was that Jagged did not realize he had such an immense advantage in economy. If he had known that, he would have easily been able to pump out units that could make a big impact. Turin on the other hand just managed to invest the economy he had into some impactful units, and thus change the game around, without Jagged really being able to catch up.
Once water and air was secured, corsairs would has been enough to end the game....
Was on the edge of my seat for a lot of this one.
Great game to Jagged and Turin.
Thanks for the cast Gyle
Long time I had watched a FAF Gyle cast, it's always highly entertaining. One day it will boom into something big(ger) ... perseverance.
53:23
Artillery can hit air units?! Woah... After how long has this game released, and I just found this out?!
I even managed to hit a T1 bomber on a UEF-ACU with a completely upgraded rocket module (tactic nuke) flying right over my commander. The Commander fortunately stood in the water, did not take any damage. But the bomber was gone anyway.
Supreme Commander was way ahead of all other games back then, not just in terms of multi-core CPU utilization.
@@scobia8321
I hope they remaster this game someday.
Benjamin Robledo Very old but they won’t, the studio thst made this collapsed
@@ZJsway
I'm aware that the studio closed. It sucks. But the collision on everything from projectiles to hitboxes... Is just amazing!
@@scobia8321
Yeah. I suffered an unfortunate situation. Lol. I died when my ACU was assisting a nuke sub. Nuke launched and hit a battleship right above in the water.
The amount of mistakes Jagged did in this game is staggering... he was VERY tired and just having no ideas anymore. (was livestreamed)
Yea saw that. When in doubt, just spam t3 arty like dual gap pros.
Thank you, good to know.. The last 10 or so minutes were painful to watch :(
@@dantheman5034 or spam Salems.
All right more Gylecast!
It's 10:41 I thunk Jagged will win. I like his sneaky aggressive play style.
Awesome cast as always! I don't really get to play it anymore living in China (crap net) but can't get enough of the casts, great work over the years
That was some first-rate Gyle entertainment! Extremely exciting stuff.
Thank you, Gyle.
P.S.: The last Average Joes made me think seriously about getting back to FA. Just by watching your casts for so long (at least two years now) I think I know more about viable unit choices and tactis in the game as some of these guys. ^^
Sometimes I think that way too, and then play a game and realize there is so much more to think about than I remembered. It's harder than it looks!
@@evanmcculfor7749 You have a point there, but I guess I will check it out for myself sometime in the next months. :)
WTF with the navy? He owned the air. That was the key but was wasted =/
The moment the game devolved into an artillery duel, jagged lost. I don't get why any Cybran would play in that way -- Cybran has the worst shields and worst T3 arty... it's like trying to win a singing contest with a sore throat.
Yeah trying to out-turtle UEF as Cybran means you're gonna have a bad time.
He had naval dominance, land superiority and even air superiority for a while. And what does he choose to do? Fall back to standoff. -_- Even if you want to standoff, make a damn Scathis at least with all that eco. Or maybe some bugs to break through and take out those nuke launchers and/or artillery. I think he just got tired and wanted to play in a more relaxed manner halfway through.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn my friends and I call it cce critical command exhaustion, everyone hits A point where their mind can't go all out with micro anymore and mistakes begin to be made.
Seems like the satellite forced him into it when he didn't have a good way to take it out
I'm glad this game is still alive. :D
Benjamin Robledo Me too! I've never played a single game and yet make sure to watch every post.
@@leosharman8630
I grew up with this game. It was, no, still is amazing!
I like me some fresh casts from Gyle!
I think jagged doing "no T4 challange" since he can easily make ones but he didnt!.... Maybe for his channel? 🤔🤔🤔
These two are long time favorites of mine
You're getting infected by Jagged -- you left the scoreboard on reclaim for a long time :P
53:25 Were the planes hit by an artillery shell?
thee0581 yes. fun fact : arty can "land" on air units. :D
The split screen is a work of art
When you can predict winner just because jag did not cast it by himself ;-)
He did cast it some time back.
50:18 so much reclaim for those engies!
how tf do they play so well?!!? 9 mins in, 1865865 factories and a sh*tton of eco...
9 mins in, I have four facs and run dangerously low on eco, and have just started to consider t2...
The last cast winner was so difficult to predict, after ten minutes I guessed, I changed target.
More games on this map please!
I so very much prefer games on the original GGG maps =)
Man I wish we got another Supreme Commander game, not the disappointment that was 2.
FAF: Definitive Edition. Lul. Now that would be sweet. Just need to update the models and terrain. Make the campaigns less a horde mode for multiple strategies. Maybe make BO mod official since the FAF team are slowly introducing over the years BO units. I want my ACU to be a god at endgame, not something that sits in a base waiting to get nuked.
@@ElementZephyr and dont forget expanding the champaign add like the entirety of the Infinite War XD
@@ElementZephyr Meybe you bro,im using Acu to sniping other's Acu.
FaF 2: 32 player multiplayer edition
@@BeerfootBandit you crazy XD, unless the game switch to pixel graphics XD
Yeah new Video. I love it (Even before watching it)
I acquired this game back in 07 when it came out. However my cpu couldn’t handle it hardly at all. I now have a beefy cpu!! Gonna pick this masterpiece back up.
How many players are still active on this game? I would like to get into multiplayer.
same if you want to play against someone who's really bad hmu
Hey I'm up for a game too if you want :D ( but i'm quit a noob ^^'' )
Few thousand is my guess. Don't think there's an actual player counter but you can find games at any hour of the day
@@xbluedragon97x62 well with the client FAF its easy to find players. + you have easy modding and mapping
Jagged could've telemazored him the whole game? Or did he have enough Broadswords/Ravagers to defend?
That's why there were a bunch of T1 PD in the base. Dunno if enough; might have been with the shields...
Someone can explain to me the difference between all the Supreme Commanders? Why people says Forge Alliance or Forge Alliance Forever is the best also is it an extension or a game alone?
I'm so confused
Its the stand alone expansion to supcom that included everything from the original game (except maybe some of the campaign, I forget it was ages ago). SC2 was supposed to be the sequel but it was really dumbed down. That was like a decade ago, the community took over FA and now it's the coolest and still one of the best looking RTS around. Pay attention to the detail of the guns, the way arc and trajectory affect the weapons (like different races artillery have different arc angles and are more effective vs others over hills etc). Position of turrets on units affects how they can direct fire. Even top machines today get mediocre "cpu ratings" in online matches because of the detail of all the calculations.
@@nekomancey4149 Wow thank you bud! And FAF is like a mod? Or it just the community that took over the game so they named FAF but it still FA
@@waitwho3074 Community took over development and balancing/bux fixing. And created an online client with a detailed matchmaking and ladder system as well as integrated source of maps and mods. As you can see thousands of people watch the streams.
@@nekomancey4149 That's crazy! But why the company allowed this? I mean is not like a bit illegal?
@@waitwho3074 GPG the creator no longer exists. This game is OLD. It's currently available on steam and to play FAF you need a valid licensed copy of the original game, the client checks. You cannot play FAF on pirated versions of the game. No copyright infringement and no competition since the core games online functionality no longer exists. FAF is just bringing in extra sales of the game on steam for people who want to play and don't have their original CDs.
That moment when you feign weakness as a UEF to make your opponent overextend and rekt them
1:06:40 How can he miss the second disruptor though haha
You don't watch Jagged's casts?
Holy wow that was tense!
This is the best RTS game in the world, does anyone know if there will be a sequel one day please?
There was. It was not very good. SupCom 2.
@@urablahblah yes supcom 2 is'nt good but forged alliance is legend of RTS game
@@urablahblah i want supcom 3 :(
Okay here is my another “fix” from Gyle!
are there no counters to the satellites? Been forever since I played sup com so don't remember anything about them, but Jagged didn't do anything about them.
He tried strat bombing and artillery, its basically a fancy artillery piece. The only way to defeat them is to blow the building up, that or sufficient shielding.
Admiral_Skye oh ok you destroy the building it launched from. Got it. Man I need to play this game again
I thought Jagged had the win at 30 minute
Justin Hutchens i thought he won earlier than that xD what a turn around
Thanks Gyle for another quality cast please continue abusing the fashion challenged Cybran menace
Great game, great commentry 😊
Jagged threw that game at so many different points
Is the game still available for purchase?
It's on sale for £1.79 at the moment store.steampowered.com/app/9420/Supreme_Commander_Forged_Alliance/
And then you need the free FAF client
faforever.com/
I hope you haven't lost interest after five months :)
Andy Wain ok cool thank you
"gg kappa" Wow nice sportsmanship Kappa
I'd like to see Ender from Ender's game play this... In a full lobby and 1v1..
Jagged afk the last 10 minutes?
He should have tele lasered or use artillery installations to win the game.
hey gyle was an avid player but stopped once the swap over happen to steam......cant get it work for some reason...so annoying
can you log in to chat? the mods might be able to help you.
@@GyleCast ha....THE GYLE!....yeah dude might just do a quick reinstall see if it works.....textures are looking a bit better? or am i just thinking this?
What computer specs are you running this on?
Spoiler Alert : Gyle heard our prayers
Let's try and guess again - I would like Turin to win this but Jagged might be too strong for him so yea... My bet is on Jagged
I have to stop this. What a game.
@@badAim2 To be fair, Jagged really threw this game.
Mendicant Bias i think he threw it by accident. he was trying to out turtle yellow, which was never gonna happen. if he pushed the naval front and air a bit more instead he wouldve won, his thought process was probably "well, im winning everywhere else, why not get some artillery?" and that killed him. gg.
and why no t3 navy?battleship has longer range than fatty
I like this map I wish more people played it
"any smd" right on top of smd lol
This is one of those games that show how important map control is
Skyler Allen until it wasnt LOL what a game
53:25 Turinturamber loses half his air for a few bombers. Gyle: "Costly and unproductive"
Still not sure what happened was it an artilery hit on the ASFs?
strats dropped bombs on top of asfs, killing them in a process xd
When jagged had complete control of the water, and before his opponent built Fatboys, jagged could have just sent in some Monkeylords.
Jagged had naval dominance, land superiority and even air superiority for a while. And what does he choose to do? Fall back to standoff. -_- Even if you want to standoff, make a damn Scathis at least with all that eco. Or maybe some bugs to break through and take out those nuke launchers and/or artillery. I think he just got tired and wanted to play in a more relaxed manner halfway through.
Anyone know why the graphics on this cast are so much clearer than the other ones? Forged Alliance never looked so good. What gives?
... 3 1v1 matches including cybrans ... not one one of them were the cybrans win ... be it ranked or unranked ...
MAGGA - Make The Galaxy Great Again - Vote UEF in 2020!!
time for some popcorn...
And booze
Just got some :)
yes!
Хорошая игра получилась.
This is why i disagree with the novax buffs. They were a good turtletool with harassmentcapabilities and a damage per mass ratio similar to t3 arty. But now they just dominate the badlands. aspecialy cybrin gett destroyed as they relie on stealth wich getts completely negated aswell as their lack of mobile shields to protect the units on the march.
why not make magalith or monkeylord.
Those novaks seem to do too much damage considering you can´t really counter them without a much higher cost investment.
Joe game. Good cast.
Epic game
Here goes
trebz?
jagged played with the wrong mindset. no scouting from him even tho he had air superiority! this killed him. if he kept scouting like the yellow guy did, he would've picked off the novas early.
JA squandered his resource advantage. Strats are such a waste of mass.
Not if used correctly, methinks. If JA had send his ASFs in first before the Bombers to distract enemy ASFs and SAMs, the Starts may have had much more success.
good
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should have gone at least a single cruiser before destroyers. cybran navy is weak to air, and he had 0 air control.
edit: as i wrote this the cruiser were being pumped out. nice.
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When you have no chance of winning with skill build Satalite xD
Sad watching this thought the Cybran would use his Advantige and build T3 Units instead of T3 Static Arty..... Poor choices!
Good match
No BBs to capitalise on the navy dominance? Was GG, wp.
Just build Ras comms
Marmite!!!
Je joue sous le pseudo benikikok, c est un nouveau compte, rank 0 pour l instant mais j étais 1200 environ y a 2 3 ans. S il y a une communauté francophone, ça me brancherai bien de me refaire des Seton ou Gap of rohan ( et leurs variantes). A plus!
yeah first comment xD
you bastard...
@@pch_mechanika to niezły Polaczek
So much needless apm forced by absurd lack of automation. RTS #1 flaw, no standing orders, no best practice baked into unit AI AT ALL, tragic. Real time baby sitting.
Like watching someone having a seizure mid-game. Horrible game!