The real tragic story is Sora's mom, after KH1 she'd have forgotten her own child exists but has his room full of his stuff. She'd be struggling to find out who this person was but asking around no one seems to remember. Then she remembers after all of this... Her child is missing and was magically forgotten about with everyone remembering him at the same time. The terror she must feel is beyond description. She is searching for her missing child only to realize his best friends Kairi and Riku are missing as well. Then after KH3 Kairi and Riku have to tell her either "Sora is dead" or "Sora is in another reality." or "We don't know."
Never thought about that, sora seemed to worry about his friends more LOL. But I hope we see her in some kinda way in KH4. She definitely hasn't seen her son ever since a stormy night.
@@maxtomchrisi really liked how they all had parents but we never see them. I hope we actually get to see them, and I think Union X and Dark road was a precursor to this, because we get to see Xehanort’s parents, or at least his mother. Kingdom Hearts characters DO have families even if Nomura never acknowledged them.
Look up a novel/anime called Shakugan no Shana. People are slowly replaced with flames to absorb the impact of their existence simply disappearing. The phenomenon you're describing plays out in full effect throughout the story, and it's not as agonizing for those "left behind" as you're imagining.
Playing through Birth by Sleep recently, with Terra meeting Riku, Riku mentions my friend's dad brings them to Destiny Island, unless this is someone other then Sora, Sora's father was also brought up.
Ventus: "I'm asking you as a friend...just...put an end to me" 😢 Roxas: "No-one would miss me" Axel: "That's not true!....I would..."😢 Xion: "You are both my best friends....never forget...."😢 Aqua: ""I reached this shore after endless wandering. Waited forever for help to arrive. But no one ever came. I lost my Keyblade. Had no means of fighting my way back through the Heartless. You should have known I was stranded. Do you have any idea how lonely it is here? How frightening it is to have no one? All that's left in my heart is misery and despair..."😭
@@GabrielMichaelDels really not as confusing as you think. It’s hard to explain but actually easier to understand. If you’re playing though all the games, you should understand it enough
KH hit me hard as a kid. I had a slightly older friend, and we had a sort of rivalry/jealousy with each other. My girlfriend at the time looked a lot like Kairi. Our families didn't like us together, and it was incredibly difficult to keep it together. We eventually split up, horribly, and my friend became bitter, leaving as well. It took about 12 years, but my once girlfriend and I found each other again. We're engaged, and have a house next week. It's something I never thought would happen. I still play these games on occasion because my memories are attached to them like smells and songs are to most people.
That's some pretty heavy stuff. It sounds like KH would have been very cathartic for you. I'm happy to hear that you got you happy ending :') fuck I'm crying now lol
Oof. If my friend saw this, things would get much, much worse. His girlfriend broke up with him, I wanna say last month or the month before but he still talks to her so this would make everything terrible. He’s already starting to sound like me and I say stuff like “I often live without life. Sometimes, I love without love. Other times, I hate without hate. And strangely enough, I stay strong without much strength left” or “I have experienced so much pain the past few years, I’m nearly incapable of not laughing at my own physical pain because of how little it is compared to my mental and emotional pain”. Obviously, what he said wasn’t on the same level but anything like that ain’t good
Roxas is one of the most tragic characters I've run into. Born as a the husk of someone else, conscripted into an organization bent on using him, forced to fight and kill his own friend on two occasions, trapped in a fake world to live out his final days, then his entire existence is taken away for the betterment of the same person who gave him life. All in just over a year. He had to fight for his existence and lost. Technically twice if you count the battle with Sora.
Roxas literally dies on his first birthday 😭😭 His case wasn't like Xion's or Namine's either, both of them got to know the whole story behind their creations and got to make a choice, Roxas got kidnapped and murdered with every character (Except Namine but she lowkey made things worse for him because Diz interfering) making a deliberate choice to keep him in the dark about it.
@@piketheknight2581 yeah, the only person who has ever given him a hug is Kairi. Rewatch the ending of the space paranoids section in kh2, it's pretty sad.
@@michaelslick273 And even then, when Kairi hugs him in KH2, he doesn't hug her back. He's taken aback. (then he immediately runs to riku and breaks down crying, but that's another thing.)
Do you think that's why we don't see his parents ? Do you think they're neglectful ? Or, was Sora just not too much into hugging, except when it was Kairi ?
KH3 deserves a mention too. Sora is constantly reminded of his failure from Dream Drop Distance because he fell for one of Xehanort’s trap cards almost becoming a vessel in the process. Yen Sid and Donald kept rubbing salt on Sora’s wounds about how he was weakened from losing all the power he had in the mark of mastery. Talk about kicking a horse when it’s already down, if that wasn’t bad enough even Pete noticed Sora wasn’t as strong as he used to be!! Something that wouldn’t have happened if Yen Sid had known about the trap in the first place he unknowingly exposed Sora to danger yet he constantly reminds a young boy that he has to regain a power he lost as if he’d be useless without it. Skipping all the way to the final battle Sora saw his friends even his own girl being defeated one by one by a tornado made of Heartless. After Sora screamed in despair thinking he’s nothing without his friends his best bro/rival had to give him some pep talk so he could get back up. Sora had to pull a do over to revive his friends. So far so good, during the battle his girl gets kidnapped and Xehanort slices her RIGHT IN FRONT OF SORA, causing the poor boy to restart the whole fight AGAIN, saving Kairi at the cost of him disappearing from breaking the rules using the power of waking incorrectly. Now Sora is in the afterlife! It’s confirmed because Strelitzia is there with him
Saving the Guardians + Kairi (the final straw) is why he disappears. So technically, he sacrificed himself for EVERYONE. Even for people he barely knew. We're lucky he didn’t actually perish, but he didn't know that.
@@purpleirken1529 knowing Sora he’d probably be satisfied because he saved the people he cared about regardless of the consequences but we all saw Kairi crying in that one scene in Destiny Islands. Sora was everyone’s friend and they only won because he made a sacrifice that he never knew the consequences but he’d still be willing to go through with it even if he knew because that’s who he is. His self sacrificing nature has been shown most iconic example was stabbing himself to give Kairi back her heart
Nevermind the fact that Sora didn't sign up for or have any responsibility in being a part of the war in the first place! He had all this responsibility shoved onto him by other people to save "those connected to him" despite the fact that it wasn't his job to and others, particularly Yen Sid, had over a decade to save some of them and yet did nothing. But so much pressure was put onto Sora to save everyone and beat Xehanort that, along with all the humiliation and manipulation he suffers throughout the game despite just being a fifteen-year-old boy just doing his best, it is no wonder he snaps and ends up breaking down once he sees literally everyone he cares about die. Plus, given that his power is literally connecting to others and using those connections, he probably felt everyone in that Graveyard die one-by-one and was helpless to stop it in a matter of SECONDS. I also find it so ironic that Riku is the one to give him that pep-talk, but he stood by and said nothing (even LAUGHING at one point) at Sora's insecurities being prodded at AND was the one who gave him his low-self esteem since they were kids by constantly one-upping and needing to be better than Sora. Sora's insecurities are as strong as ever since he basically doesn't care what happens to him and chooses to sacrifice himself to save everyone else and give them their happy ending while he continues to suffer.
It is 100% a tragedy. Kairi continuously having circumstances that separate her from Sora and Riku and feeling like she is only holding them back despite desperately trying to prove that she can handle things herself; Riku being entranced by Darkness and doing regrettable things to his friends and seeking a self-punishing redemption from following the dark path but also struggling with trying to balance his inner light and darkness; and Sora...Sora has a very tragic journey. He tries to hold the weight and burden of all his friends and waves off anything wrong with him with a jovial smile while being lied to, having his friends ripped away multiple times, trying to grasp with why he was chosen by the arcane Kingdom Key (which is a rabbit hole itself), and him eventually slowly having his happy-go-lucky composure chipped away in Kingdom Hearts III only to snap and scream in anguish after watching all his friends be slaughtered by the maelstrom of Heartless, and goes against the nature of reality to save his friends only for him to be banished from his reality from tampering with time and fate. Yes, in the original and unaltered timeline, Sora and his friends all perish. Let's not forget this series has supernatural human experiments be an essential plot point of the franchise. I love it all. Kingdom Hearts is one of those franchises where you cannot judge it on a surface level. Sora may be depicted as the poster boy of determination, friendship, and enjoying life to the fullest. However, until Kingdom Hearts III, it is heavily hinted at that Sora has just be internalizing his worries and problems, which justifies the berserk Anti-Form in Kingdom Hearts II and the the vicious and deadly Rage Form in Kingdom Hearts III. And I fear that there may be a strong chance of Sora being tempted like Riku was to give into the Darkness in Kingdom Hearts IV. Sora does not have the emotional self-control that Riku has. So, you can imagine what this may lead to.
You want to know one of the most interesting parts of 358/2? Because the game established that Xion was the reason Sora couldn't wake up, that means that Roxas actually might not have had to merge back into Sora in KHII. It's possible that because everyone forgot Xion existed, the holes in everyone's memories lead DiZ and Riku to believe that it was Roxas preventing Sora from awakening. Org 13 making Xion, and then condemning her to death, is what lead to Roxas getting completely screwed over in KHII's opening hours, and Sora could have woken up way sooner, with Roxas being his own, separate person.
@@JabamiLain... I don't remember that part, but I do know that he was capturing Roxas at that point because it was what _DiZ_ said needed to be done, and we don't know if DiZ remembered Xion, especially since I don't believe they interacted at any point. Just to refresh my memory, how DID they show that Riku was still clinging to Xion's memory?
This is incorrect but only because of how it transpired. Sora's memories leaked into Roxas from Xion, and Namine was unable to put these memories back into Sora at this point without just having Roxas go back to Sora. Basically Roxas had to go back to Sora for the same reason Xion would have had to go back to Sora. You would otherwise be correct if Sora's memories weren't in Roxas.
Great video. I'd say an honorary mention would be Naminé given how she was confined and manipulated for her powers as well as given the constant reminder that she shouldn't exist. Perhaps, not as bad as everyone else, but she was treated as nothing but a tool for the only year she existed.
Kingdom Hearts has been in a special place in my heart since I was twelve and I'm 26 now. It was emotional as hell playing the games as a kid, but now I cry since I'm older because I understand the pain.
kingdom hearts has left not only a significant impact on me aside from being one of my favorite games but an emotional one too seeing a lot of resemblances and symbolism in some characters made me relate to some of them in one way or another honestly still one of my all time favorite characters is roxas but even during recoded yes i actually was enjoying that game on my dsi back then and 358/2 days, but hearing roxas say "its way past time you learned what real hurt feels like!" and "i dont really have a home but, there's a place i''d like to be" and not only that sora helping him like a brother getting him back cause he knows he deserves to exist like he does tugs at the heart in indescribable ways to me
As a child, I kept losing friends due to moving around in a country that had no roads between the cities (Greenland) and when you moved around you lost friends, and I did that again and again, just wanting to be friends with two people that always happened to be a boy and a girl. On the seventh time, we moved to another country entirely and I lost all hopes to just keep friends and became deeply depressed and lonely. I played Kingdom Hearts 2 so much due to Roxas' prologue of losing all his friends, getting to know it was all fake because someone was friendly towards another he was formed after - I felt that. And then playing as Sora, you always tailed that one friend who keeps evading you and losing another to the unknown. For Sora fighting so hard to regain his friends was a story I deeply wanted to play out because I wanted it to be true to my own life. Like Aqua, I fought the darkness for so long that I gave in in a hot year for then to be someone similar to Roxas wanting to be my own and not someone I'm not. I was so positive and goofy when I was younger and now, people can only see the glimpe of those things at times. I found so much solace in those games due to the level of relating to all them except pre-redeemed Riku and pre-Lingeirng Will Terra.
Heh. Relatable. And I’m only 14. I’ve lost so much the past few years, whether it was friends, family, who I am. I’ve gotten stronger, true. But who I used to be is gone. Sometimes I miss him. He was so much more innocent. Nicer, life felt better. He cried at small scratches and splinters. He tried to stay that way throughout the brutal years alone, but eventually, he grew up. I grew up. The pain he felt with when he was young was nothing compared to now. When I feel the little pains he did, I laugh. I find it funny, because it’s nothing compared everything else. When I bleed, I say “ugh, again? This is getting annoying.” And “I hate the taste of blood.”
I'm still playing through the KH series (currently on Chain of Memories), but I already know most of the overall plot up to KH4. But because of that, I knew how KH1 was going to end, but I never realized just how sad that ending was until I beat the game myself a few weeks ago. What really shocked me was realizing the game was intended for kids. By the end, you know Kairi is safe, but she's lost her two best friends. Riku and Mickey are trapped in a mysterious dark dimension indefinitely. Sora, Donald and Goofy are in the middle of nowhere, but if you miss the post-credit scene (which a lot of kids probably would) you don't even know what happens to them. And this is a game with Disney characters! That alone wouldn't be shocking for Kingdom Hearts, except this was the first game in the series. Square and Disney obviously wanted to make sequels, but if the game hadn't sold well enough then that would've been the ending, forever. Yet the writers still chose to give it that conclusion rather than tying everything up in a neat little bow. Bold move, Square.
Exactly. As a kid and even now it hits. The music, the characters and true show of friendship. Square Enix really knew what they were doing and got us all right in the feels
@@dytgyfgyffuh243It's still a tragedy regardless cuz of what happened with Sora. Also, not understanding what the story was leading into. Even the CG openings hinted at it. No one was really "dead" and was gonna get brought back. Better yet, Aqua was still living just trapped in the realm of darkness. Ventus was still living but his heart was with Sora. Terra was still living but his heart and body was trapped within Xehanort. Xion was a reconstructed Puppet Roxas and Namine are within Kairi and Sora. Axel/Lea became whole again Understand that tragedy doesn't just rely on "death" Plus are we forgetting what happened with Kingdom Hearts Unchained X, Union X, and Dark Road that's leads into why said Keyblade Wielders were dead. Including the creation of the Keyblade Graveyard
@@terrellthaddies7867 I am saying that when a character has an emotional death in the story and then they bring them back to life it makes the death pointless a example of this is dragon ball where they always bring back the people who die
@@dytgyfgyffuh243As a fan of these games and knows the story within the back of my mind, no one within these trios actually "died" except for Xion. Even then she is a reconstructed Puppet made by Vixen Like it's the equivalent of saying that Master Erqus' death was undone when he came back briefly from resting within Terra's heart for one final goodbye cuz his heart, body, and soul was already gone. The story behind that makes sense and it was still a tragedy So again, "Death" within the Kingdom Hearts series isn't the only thing that leads to tragedy. The other keyword to this, is sacrifice. Which is also a theme within Kingdom Hearts
2:52 minor corrections, when someone’s heart gets taken over by darkness, they create a heartless and a nobody, not when they simply die. Also, Kairi was able to save him since she’s a princess of light.
Agreed. It had some hella dark moments that really taught me important things as a kid. Would explain why loading up kh3 the forst time and letting dearly beloved 3 play in its entirety will make any fan cry fr. Does it for me everytime
ok I’ve been trying to get into KH for a while and this video helped me so much even tho ik the video wasn’t dedicated to help ppl looking to get into the fandom. But I think I’m going to get KH2 for my first kingdom hearts game once again ty so much! (Also you earn a sub. I never really watched analysis vids but it something about the way you make yours that really hooks me so keep up the good work!)
I only played KH recently and as an adult, but at the end of the first game, when Donald yells, “Sora!!! Come back Sora!!!” Man, that part always gets me
I'd love to see a Video about Kingdom Hearts 3, you just showed how tragic this story is and why this story moves me. I love those games, every one of them
12:23 actually, this is a common misconception. From her point of view she was there for only about a year but from everyone else’s, she was gone for 10 years
Kingdom Hearts BBS made my little 14 year old self cry so much. the endings were so bitter and me never owning KH beforehand made me think "Damn, That's it?"
Yeah everyone talks about this kinda stuff when It comes to tragic kh stuff but no one talking about the story our character. We are kids forced to battle other kids and pretty much kill them also then get our memories erased and then having to betray your friends and sacrifice yourself for them. Who knows what else happens to the player in missing link but the fact that he raises xehanort thinking he is the true child of destiny but is actually the seeker of darkness is crazy. Dark road is even worse too 😭😭😭.
Ironically, "Kingdom Hearts" kinda drained my faith in humanity for a time, but then "Legacy of Kain", "Evangelion", "Serial Experiments Lain", "Madoka Magica" and "Drakengard" got it back. Because the truth is, tragedy can bring hope. Hope of change. Radical change and justified payback. "Kingdom Hearts" ever since 2...justifies gaslight and gives that illusion the world's time is meaningless through the power of friendship.
I still love the first KH game so very, very much. It's heartbreaking, beautiful, sweet, and earnest even when it's painfully cheesy, lol. Thank you for this video highlighting the weight the games' stories have. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
show this to anyone who says that Kingdom Hearts is a kids game (as in meant as an insult, as if movies or games for children don't deserve good quality stories which they actually do otherwise other adults wouldn't appreciate masterpieces like Kingdom Hearts either).
Great video my man. I played a lot of the games except KH3 but the story gets so confusing I gave up on it. But you got me caught up I’ll be waiting for the next one
Yaknow i never realized it until you pointed it out But sora is a badass kid Realizing he has to end his life to save Kairi, coming to terms with it almost immediately and doing it with a smile That’s badass
Listening to this reminds me of the fact that i wrote a fanfic that had some elements right about KH3, lol. I wrote it years ago, before 3 came out and i did get some aspects right in it, but it was totally different than what we got haha
KH hits so damn hard that I ALWAYS get goosebumps and tear up listening to the intros/outros. Fuck i get emotional just thinking about this epic tale that helped shape my morals and personality.
What is next for Sora. The ending to KHIII was so uncalled for. I thought KHII was enough for him until the message in the bottle came. It was a perfect ending, and he finally reunited with Riku and Kairi...
KHII is not a perfect ending, for Sora, or the actual plot, and many of the other characters. Roxas and Naminè are trapped within Sora and Kairi and we’re supposed to accept this as if it’s totally normal and not horrifying. Most of the true nature of Xehanort, the main villain, and organization xiii is completely unexplained in an unsatisfying way. Which is why they made 358/2 days and birth by sleep to flesh it out. The KH2 ending is good on paper, but feels too “safe” in retrospect and leaves a lot to be desired.
Kingdom hearts was a very deep game for my personality and changed a lot of things i love it even when the story some time was so bad ... this game is perfect and My heart will be forever my guiding key
Ironically, "Kingdom Hearts" kinda drained my faith in humanity for a time, but then "Legacy of Kain", "Evangelion", "Serial Experiments Lain", "Madoka Magica" and "Drakengard" got it back. Because the truth is, tragedy can bring hope. Hope of change. Radical change and justified payback. "Kingdom Hearts" ever since 2...justifies gaslight and gives that illusion the world's time is meaningless through the power of friendship.
@@JabamiLain just like you i was no longer have faith in humanity but unlike you i was thinking. oh kh 2 was a very hard one in my feelings in fact i don`t have a very strong heart i always sound like cold and hursh but kh and draken nair helped me a lot with those points and the way they put me back to the right place was so amezing. becuse of persona5 royal and nair and kh2 and outer wilds i started to feel and expirence life again and they were a life changing games, and im sorry but i watched eva and it was bad a very bad anime nothing was good in that thing
the part that killed me was the entirety of COM, no one believes you, no one listens to you, you are all alone..........shit was so relatable..........
I really like the video. And it’s so sad to see how normal kids end up in misery even though all they wanted was just a normal life. I love this series but hotdayum is it depressing.
358/2 Days is hands down… The most depressing game in the series, especially on the DS. You play as a nobody…. a husk of someone else’s heart. You are confused, not knowing wtf is going on and you work a 9-5 while trying to figure out everything. You make a best friend and fall in love but that all gets taken away from you, your loved one dies and your best friend conforms to the man. Your entire memory gets wiped out then leading into KH II you repeat to confusing cycle and you lose yourself… to your true self. Damn
Roxas and Ventus are very sad and tragic, they were only born/created to fulfill a purpose instead of getting to live their lives and be free, they have no families, no mom or dad and can only find comfort and bond among their friends.
I remember expecting resolution at the end of 2 and it just ended with Sora and Kairi being separated again. Then I expected resolution in 3, and it ended with Sora and Kairi being separated again 🥲 It’s been endless tragedy for over half my life 😭
The community loves to fixate on the mechanics of how all the batshit crazy stuff happens in these games but for me what really makes Kingdom Hearts be itself is the tragedy and the heartfelt moments. Personally i could care less about how time travel works as long as it later down the lines delivers on that powerful, personal feeling this series channels so well. I hope the series going forward focuses less on the mechanics (cuz at the end of the day it is a universe filled with whimsy) to deliver stories closer to its characters.
Despite all the jokes and memes, a series that can entertain millions over a decade and still have them excited for what's next is doing something right. While I really didn't like 3's story, I am still looking towards the future and what they plan to do.
Sora didn't off himself. He releases his and others hearts from within himself. He didnt lose his heart which is why he came back to his physical form.
SPOILERS FOR DARK ROAD AND UNION X i also love how the vilains are tragic too. Xemnas for example, is lost between two identities: Terra and MX. He also dosen't have a heart to understand emotions and when he finally can feel something, he can only feel pain and suffering. And also, uh, ✨Dark Road✨ another example is Saïx/Isa: he wanted to find his lost friend with Axel, but Axel decided to abandon them when he made new friends. Saïx, consumed by jealousy and the feeling of betrayal, decided to come back into the organisation instead of staying as Isa. And if i remember well, Axel/Lea felt worried after he saw that his boyf- *cough * his friend Isa wasen't with them when they woke up as peoples And Marluxia/Lauriam who lost his sister and was sent into the future and all that stuff
I agree that KH is tragic and i hate that you didnt have the time to talk about KH3 because yes it does solve everyone elses problem excepts Sora. He's the only one missing. If you get the chance though please let everyone know about the prequel Union Cross. I think that story is a lot more tragic than the installments you talked about. Yes there is betrayal but Union Cross is on another scale.
The real tragedy is that I’ll probably be 100 years old when KH4 finally comes out >:| Like bruhhh I was 11 when this came out and now I’m about to be 32. Square Enix what are you doing to me ?!? Le sigh
I feel unworthy of even playing. The only one I ever completed, I believe it was on psp or something. It might've been a hacked memory card, but the only one I ever finished was with Axel always saying, "Got it memorized?"
It indeed is a tragic story. Story of potential crossovers that never could be realized due to insertion of too many original characters that never die and convoluted storytelling. What you mean we are not talking story of this franchise past KH1?
So, you’re wrong on multiple fronts. The characters do die. In multiple of the games. The original characters are why most of the core fanbase actually cares about it. The crossover aspect is a nice novelty, but most people playing it don’t really care about that aspect. More than the actual story and character arcs, and obviously the gameplay.
Slight misconception I caught. It's Naminé that forms when Sora sacrifices himself not Xion. Xion is a Replica or "fake human" made by Vexen that syphoned the scattered memories from Sora while she was developed in castle oblivion, mostly memories of Kairi since Repliku was made by Sora's memories about Riku. That's why Xion looks like Kairi since she takes the Form Sora remembers her by. With time she forms her own memories and heart separate from Sora's memories but still holds on to them since she doesn't know if separating from them would mean loosing herself although we get the confirmation in KH3 that she just had to let go of the personality others pushed on her and embrace the one she developed together with Axel and Roxas. Xions name is actually No.i the "i" standing for imaginary number since she wasn't meant to be a true person on conception to begin with yet formed her own due to her love for her friends.
Here, I thought my disliking for Kingdom Hearts 3 was just because I was taught how to write stories. Such education makes one critical. But no. Almost everyone hates it.
Kingdom hearts is one of the most hood stories of all time. 3 kids that believe there’s more to life than the neighborhood and decide to run away. The big homie Riku wasting his talent by hanging with the wrong crowd. Sora making the right choices and being chosen over Riku sparking a rivalry between responsibility and clout. Kairi being the girl next door that the boys compete over until she chooses the one with a bright future over the boy choosing the streets. Hood AF
SIR, YOU SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN WHEN YOU MENTIONED YOU'D BE TACKLING THE SERIES IN RELEASE ORDER AT 0:40 Other than that you do a decent job covering things, just miffed this doesn't follow either in game chronology or release order. I'm hoping and looking forward to you covering the rest in a second video though
Man... are there any members of the original team...? 30 years later the same team CAN'T be around anymore... 😂 I'm gonna guess games 1&2 are the same team, and the rest was made by whoever had spare time.
They made a new team for the non titled games of KH. I think they were good games, their stories were good and the rpg mechanics were creative enough to make up for the less complex/grounded combat. Kh3 though had a bad story and mediocre to bad combat with no rpg mechanics. The og team worked on FF/square titles. Versus 13 had the og team members on it. It just all fell apart for KH when vs13 was canceled.
@@XFR18if you think kh3 had bad gameplay I highly encourage you to play the game on critical mode and the REMIND DLC. Because it’s arguably the best in the series.
Ironically, "Kingdom Hearts" kinda drained my faith in humanity for a time, but then "Legacy of Kain", "Evangelion", "Serial Experiments Lain", "Madoka Magica" and "Drakengard" got it back. Because the truth is, tragedy can bring hope. Hope of change. Radical change and justified payback. "Kingdom Hearts" ever since 2...justifies gaslight and gives that illusion the world's time is meaningless through the power of friendship.
I really don't see how KH is a tragic tale since Sora could just "friendship" his way out everyone's problems. There aren't even any perma death except Xehanort and Eriqus. I mean, even if Sora dies permanently in the ending of the series, the wouldn't really bother me since I never really got what people saw in someone so boring.
You're missing union which has the saddest story tbh. The master of masters basically manipulates the faction masters into starting the keyblade war. Tons of children die
Naminé is technically Roxas's sister, in essence. She was created at the same time as Roxas, as Kairi's nobody because Kairi's heart was released from Sora's body. Roxas had Ven's heart (hence the resemblance).
KH is the game I can't relate to at all as i don't like Disney of any of the original main characters in KH, but i liked the game play of kingdom hearts as its a casual JRPG.
KH3 was a melted ice cream cone of shit. A literal Disney Theme Park add. Some how manage to have worse combat than pervious instalments. NO Final Fantasy characters, NO colosseum, an annoying immersion breaking twitter where the game continuously want you to look at, The longest and more non challenging boring final battle where the hardest part is finish it with out developing Carpal Tunnel on you thumb. KH3 is more water down than diarrhea. One that I pray one day get fixed. A real disappointment, sadly.
Sora when he finds Kairi after years: -gives her a hug- Sora when he find Riku after years: -on his knees crying and shidding himself- "I looked everywhere for you!" Biggest tragedy is how useless Kairi is. Home girl spent an indefinite amount of time in stasis training with Lea, and she gets bodied IMMEDIATELY. puts up -90 fight. She will NEVER shine.
I'll tell you what's REALLY tragic about it, the fact that we won't be able to play Kingdom Hearts 4 until we're probably like 70 years old because Nomoron-I mean Nomura is obsessed with making us wait.
He’s not obsessed with making you wait- game development for AAA games takes much longer than it did 20 years ago and these games take a long time to produce. You’re really exaggerating.
This was already so obvious. No reason to make a video explaining it to other people. Why the hell would anyone want their understanding of KH lore to be narrated in your voice?
BBS is a tragedy for sure. Other KHs are not so much. Kh2 kind of concluded it on a happy note with the original 3 coming back together. Then KH3 makes the 'super' happy ending where dead characters are all revived. The whole series is now not a tragedy because of kh3 ending
The characters that returned in KH3 were never “actually dead,” they were in an existential limbo where it was possible for Sora to bring them back. It also isn’t “happy,” either, Sora fades out of existence out of the cost of bringing everyone else back. If anything, it’s bittersweet.
KH3 wasn't bad, but it did not meet expectations. It felt rushed and not properly fleshed out, missing alot of features that could've made the game a proper successor. It was about the final battle, everyone coming back together, and we only got to see from Sora's perspective. It needed the birth by sleep treatment, giving you all sides of the full story. Edit: yes, I've played all the games and know the lore behind the mobile games too, KH3 was still slapped together haphazardly
This is why I don't like kingdom hearts 3 it ruins all the sadness and tragedy by bringing the characters to life like how dragon ball use the dragon ball to bring people back to the life making death meaningless
You don't understand what happens to Sora yet, and Kingdom Hearts 1 literally had two "revivals" demonstrating how they jump rope with mortality. Just because you accepted it as a one-off doesn't mean the framework wasn't always there.
And all of this is EXACTLY WHY im so MASSIVELY PISSED about Kingdom Hearts 3's 'Secret Ending'. It IS a tragic story, always has been. EVEN INGAME youre told "Sora, if you do this, its over. Youre gone." and of course hes doing it to go save Kairi, again. That image, of them ALL sitting together with 'just' Sora missing, clearly telling you he did it? That is the PERFECT ending to this 20 years long adventure. Tragic? Yes. But thats how it is sometimes, especially if the entire Series was a Tragedy to begin with. But NOOOOOO we need to keep Sora in some other world. F that, for real.
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The real tragic story is Sora's mom, after KH1 she'd have forgotten her own child exists but has his room full of his stuff. She'd be struggling to find out who this person was but asking around no one seems to remember.
Then she remembers after all of this...
Her child is missing and was magically forgotten about with everyone remembering him at the same time. The terror she must feel is beyond description. She is searching for her missing child only to realize his best friends Kairi and Riku are missing as well.
Then after KH3 Kairi and Riku have to tell her either "Sora is dead" or "Sora is in another reality." or "We don't know."
Never thought about that, sora seemed to worry about his friends more LOL. But I hope we see her in some kinda way in KH4. She definitely hasn't seen her son ever since a stormy night.
@@Sappyhourr Sora's mom becomes a new keyblade wielder, in-fact she becomes a playable protagonist in one of the future games.
@@maxtomchrisi really liked how they all had parents but we never see them. I hope we actually get to see them, and I think Union X and Dark road was a precursor to this, because we get to see Xehanort’s parents, or at least his mother. Kingdom Hearts characters DO have families even if Nomura never acknowledged them.
Look up a novel/anime called Shakugan no Shana. People are slowly replaced with flames to absorb the impact of their existence simply disappearing. The phenomenon you're describing plays out in full effect throughout the story, and it's not as agonizing for those "left behind" as you're imagining.
Playing through Birth by Sleep recently, with Terra meeting Riku, Riku mentions my friend's dad brings them to Destiny Island, unless this is someone other then Sora, Sora's father was also brought up.
Ventus: "I'm asking you as a friend...just...put an end to me" 😢
Roxas: "No-one would miss me"
Axel: "That's not true!....I would..."😢
Xion: "You are both my best friends....never forget...."😢
Aqua: ""I reached this shore after endless wandering. Waited forever for help to arrive. But no one ever came. I lost my Keyblade. Had no means of fighting my way back through the Heartless. You should have known I was stranded. Do you have any idea how lonely it is here? How frightening it is to have no one? All that's left in my heart is misery and despair..."😭
The fact I feel like this feels relatable 🥲
KH. home for depression. With a side of confusion cause the plot is wild.
@@GabrielMichaelDels really not as confusing as you think. It’s hard to explain but actually easier to understand. If you’re playing though all the games, you should understand it enough
KH hit me hard as a kid. I had a slightly older friend, and we had a sort of rivalry/jealousy with each other. My girlfriend at the time looked a lot like Kairi. Our families didn't like us together, and it was incredibly difficult to keep it together. We eventually split up, horribly, and my friend became bitter, leaving as well. It took about 12 years, but my once girlfriend and I found each other again. We're engaged, and have a house next week. It's something I never thought would happen. I still play these games on occasion because my memories are attached to them like smells and songs are to most people.
That's some pretty heavy stuff. It sounds like KH would have been very cathartic for you. I'm happy to hear that you got you happy ending :') fuck I'm crying now lol
Oof. If my friend saw this, things would get much, much worse. His girlfriend broke up with him, I wanna say last month or the month before but he still talks to her so this would make everything terrible. He’s already starting to sound like me and I say stuff like “I often live without life. Sometimes, I love without love. Other times, I hate without hate. And strangely enough, I stay strong without much strength left” or “I have experienced so much pain the past few years, I’m nearly incapable of not laughing at my own physical pain because of how little it is compared to my mental and emotional pain”. Obviously, what he said wasn’t on the same level but anything like that ain’t good
Hell yeah dude :D
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Roxas is one of the most tragic characters I've run into. Born as a the husk of someone else, conscripted into an organization bent on using him, forced to fight and kill his own friend on two occasions, trapped in a fake world to live out his final days, then his entire existence is taken away for the betterment of the same person who gave him life. All in just over a year. He had to fight for his existence and lost. Technically twice if you count the battle with Sora.
Roxas literally dies on his first birthday 😭😭 His case wasn't like Xion's or Namine's either, both of them got to know the whole story behind their creations and got to make a choice, Roxas got kidnapped and murdered with every character (Except Namine but she lowkey made things worse for him because Diz interfering) making a deliberate choice to keep him in the dark about it.
The part that slayed me was when in kh2, in space paranoids you learn that sora has never received a hug before and tron was confused by this.
Wait, what do you mean? Iam sure he hugs some people back at kh 1
@@piketheknight2581 yeah, the only person who has ever given him a hug is Kairi. Rewatch the ending of the space paranoids section in kh2, it's pretty sad.
@@michaelslick273 And even then, when Kairi hugs him in KH2, he doesn't hug her back. He's taken aback.
(then he immediately runs to riku and breaks down crying, but that's another thing.)
Do you think that's why we don't see his parents ? Do you think they're neglectful ? Or, was Sora just not too much into hugging, except when it was Kairi ?
I never caught onto to that. But technically Kiari hugged him while he was a heartless.
The real tragedy is that Sora never got to have his dinner.
KH3 deserves a mention too. Sora is constantly reminded of his failure from Dream Drop Distance because he fell for one of Xehanort’s trap cards almost becoming a vessel in the process. Yen Sid and Donald kept rubbing salt on Sora’s wounds about how he was weakened from losing all the power he had in the mark of mastery. Talk about kicking a horse when it’s already down, if that wasn’t bad enough even Pete noticed Sora wasn’t as strong as he used to be!! Something that wouldn’t have happened if Yen Sid had known about the trap in the first place he unknowingly exposed Sora to danger yet he constantly reminds a young boy that he has to regain a power he lost as if he’d be useless without it. Skipping all the way to the final battle Sora saw his friends even his own girl being defeated one by one by a tornado made of Heartless. After Sora screamed in despair thinking he’s nothing without his friends his best bro/rival had to give him some pep talk so he could get back up. Sora had to pull a do over to revive his friends. So far so good, during the battle his girl gets kidnapped and Xehanort slices her RIGHT IN FRONT OF SORA, causing the poor boy to restart the whole fight AGAIN, saving Kairi at the cost of him disappearing from breaking the rules using the power of waking incorrectly. Now Sora is in the afterlife! It’s confirmed because Strelitzia is there with him
Saving the Guardians + Kairi (the final straw) is why he disappears.
So technically, he sacrificed himself for EVERYONE. Even for people he barely knew.
We're lucky he didn’t actually perish, but he didn't know that.
@@purpleirken1529 knowing Sora he’d probably be satisfied because he saved the people he cared about regardless of the consequences but we all saw Kairi crying in that one scene in Destiny Islands. Sora was everyone’s friend and they only won because he made a sacrifice that he never knew the consequences but he’d still be willing to go through with it even if he knew because that’s who he is. His self sacrificing nature has been shown most iconic example was stabbing himself to give Kairi back her heart
sora was lowkey getting bullied in kh3
@@its_myono low key about it. He was just straight up being bullied.
Nevermind the fact that Sora didn't sign up for or have any responsibility in being a part of the war in the first place! He had all this responsibility shoved onto him by other people to save "those connected to him" despite the fact that it wasn't his job to and others, particularly Yen Sid, had over a decade to save some of them and yet did nothing. But so much pressure was put onto Sora to save everyone and beat Xehanort that, along with all the humiliation and manipulation he suffers throughout the game despite just being a fifteen-year-old boy just doing his best, it is no wonder he snaps and ends up breaking down once he sees literally everyone he cares about die. Plus, given that his power is literally connecting to others and using those connections, he probably felt everyone in that Graveyard die one-by-one and was helpless to stop it in a matter of SECONDS. I also find it so ironic that Riku is the one to give him that pep-talk, but he stood by and said nothing (even LAUGHING at one point) at Sora's insecurities being prodded at AND was the one who gave him his low-self esteem since they were kids by constantly one-upping and needing to be better than Sora. Sora's insecurities are as strong as ever since he basically doesn't care what happens to him and chooses to sacrifice himself to save everyone else and give them their happy ending while he continues to suffer.
It is 100% a tragedy. Kairi continuously having circumstances that separate her from Sora and Riku and feeling like she is only holding them back despite desperately trying to prove that she can handle things herself; Riku being entranced by Darkness and doing regrettable things to his friends and seeking a self-punishing redemption from following the dark path but also struggling with trying to balance his inner light and darkness; and Sora...Sora has a very tragic journey.
He tries to hold the weight and burden of all his friends and waves off anything wrong with him with a jovial smile while being lied to, having his friends ripped away multiple times, trying to grasp with why he was chosen by the arcane Kingdom Key (which is a rabbit hole itself), and him eventually slowly having his happy-go-lucky composure chipped away in Kingdom Hearts III only to snap and scream in anguish after watching all his friends be slaughtered by the maelstrom of Heartless, and goes against the nature of reality to save his friends only for him to be banished from his reality from tampering with time and fate. Yes, in the original and unaltered timeline, Sora and his friends all perish.
Let's not forget this series has supernatural human experiments be an essential plot point of the franchise.
I love it all. Kingdom Hearts is one of those franchises where you cannot judge it on a surface level. Sora may be depicted as the poster boy of determination, friendship, and enjoying life to the fullest. However, until Kingdom Hearts III, it is heavily hinted at that Sora has just be internalizing his worries and problems, which justifies the berserk Anti-Form in Kingdom Hearts II and the the vicious and deadly Rage Form in Kingdom Hearts III. And I fear that there may be a strong chance of Sora being tempted like Riku was to give into the Darkness in Kingdom Hearts IV. Sora does not have the emotional self-control that Riku has. So, you can imagine what this may lead to.
Oh no don't give Nomura the ideas 😭💀
@@heavenlysadist Too late! The door has been opened!
You want to know one of the most interesting parts of 358/2? Because the game established that Xion was the reason Sora couldn't wake up, that means that Roxas actually might not have had to merge back into Sora in KHII. It's possible that because everyone forgot Xion existed, the holes in everyone's memories lead DiZ and Riku to believe that it was Roxas preventing Sora from awakening.
Org 13 making Xion, and then condemning her to death, is what lead to Roxas getting completely screwed over in KHII's opening hours, and Sora could have woken up way sooner, with Roxas being his own, separate person.
Riku held on to the memory of her at first. So he did need Roxas still. Still was wrong to try and bury his existance from Sora and call it willing.
@@JabamiLain... I don't remember that part, but I do know that he was capturing Roxas at that point because it was what _DiZ_ said needed to be done, and we don't know if DiZ remembered Xion, especially since I don't believe they interacted at any point.
Just to refresh my memory, how DID they show that Riku was still clinging to Xion's memory?
@@forgototherpasswordRoxas mentioned her early in their fight, and Riku admited it was a struggle to even just remember her name.
This is incorrect but only because of how it transpired.
Sora's memories leaked into Roxas from Xion, and Namine was unable to put these memories back into Sora at this point without just having Roxas go back to Sora.
Basically Roxas had to go back to Sora for the same reason Xion would have had to go back to Sora.
You would otherwise be correct if Sora's memories weren't in Roxas.
Great video. I'd say an honorary mention would be Naminé given how she was confined and manipulated for her powers as well as given the constant reminder that she shouldn't exist. Perhaps, not as bad as everyone else, but she was treated as nothing but a tool for the only year she existed.
Kingdom Hearts has been in a special place in my heart since I was twelve and I'm 26 now. It was emotional as hell playing the games as a kid, but now I cry since I'm older because I understand the pain.
kingdom hearts has left not only a significant impact on me aside from being one of my favorite games but an emotional one too seeing a lot of resemblances and symbolism in some characters made me relate to some of them in one way or another honestly still one of my all time favorite characters is roxas but even during recoded yes i actually was enjoying that game on my dsi back then and 358/2 days, but hearing roxas say "its way past time you learned what real hurt feels like!" and "i dont really have a home but, there's a place i''d like to be" and not only that sora helping him like a brother getting him back cause he knows he deserves to exist like he does tugs at the heart in indescribable ways to me
And if you played Union X, Ventus story is even more tragic then it already is. His life resume as trauma after trauma, again and again.
"as for kh3.. it was bad sue me"
Nomura: "famous last words"
hehehehe
As a child, I kept losing friends due to moving around in a country that had no roads between the cities (Greenland) and when you moved around you lost friends, and I did that again and again, just wanting to be friends with two people that always happened to be a boy and a girl. On the seventh time, we moved to another country entirely and I lost all hopes to just keep friends and became deeply depressed and lonely. I played Kingdom Hearts 2 so much due to Roxas' prologue of losing all his friends, getting to know it was all fake because someone was friendly towards another he was formed after - I felt that. And then playing as Sora, you always tailed that one friend who keeps evading you and losing another to the unknown. For Sora fighting so hard to regain his friends was a story I deeply wanted to play out because I wanted it to be true to my own life. Like Aqua, I fought the darkness for so long that I gave in in a hot year for then to be someone similar to Roxas wanting to be my own and not someone I'm not.
I was so positive and goofy when I was younger and now, people can only see the glimpe of those things at times. I found so much solace in those games due to the level of relating to all them except pre-redeemed Riku and pre-Lingeirng Will Terra.
Heh. Relatable. And I’m only 14. I’ve lost so much the past few years, whether it was friends, family, who I am. I’ve gotten stronger, true. But who I used to be is gone. Sometimes I miss him. He was so much more innocent. Nicer, life felt better. He cried at small scratches and splinters. He tried to stay that way throughout the brutal years alone, but eventually, he grew up. I grew up. The pain he felt with when he was young was nothing compared to now. When I feel the little pains he did, I laugh. I find it funny, because it’s nothing compared everything else. When I bleed, I say “ugh, again? This is getting annoying.” And “I hate the taste of blood.”
I'm still playing through the KH series (currently on Chain of Memories), but I already know most of the overall plot up to KH4. But because of that, I knew how KH1 was going to end, but I never realized just how sad that ending was until I beat the game myself a few weeks ago. What really shocked me was realizing the game was intended for kids.
By the end, you know Kairi is safe, but she's lost her two best friends. Riku and Mickey are trapped in a mysterious dark dimension indefinitely. Sora, Donald and Goofy are in the middle of nowhere, but if you miss the post-credit scene (which a lot of kids probably would) you don't even know what happens to them. And this is a game with Disney characters!
That alone wouldn't be shocking for Kingdom Hearts, except this was the first game in the series. Square and Disney obviously wanted to make sequels, but if the game hadn't sold well enough then that would've been the ending, forever. Yet the writers still chose to give it that conclusion rather than tying everything up in a neat little bow. Bold move, Square.
Exactly. As a kid and even now it hits. The music, the characters and true show of friendship. Square Enix really knew what they were doing and got us all right in the feels
@Sappyhourr this is why I don't like kingdom hearts 3 it ruined all the tragedy by bringing the characters back to life
@@dytgyfgyffuh243It's still a tragedy regardless cuz of what happened with Sora.
Also, not understanding what the story was leading into. Even the CG openings hinted at it. No one was really "dead" and was gonna get brought back.
Better yet, Aqua was still living just trapped in the realm of darkness. Ventus was still living but his heart was with Sora. Terra was still living but his heart and body was trapped within Xehanort. Xion was a reconstructed Puppet
Roxas and Namine are within Kairi and Sora. Axel/Lea became whole again
Understand that tragedy doesn't just rely on "death"
Plus are we forgetting what happened with Kingdom Hearts Unchained X, Union X, and Dark Road that's leads into why said Keyblade Wielders were dead. Including the creation of the Keyblade Graveyard
@@terrellthaddies7867 I am saying that when a character has an emotional death in the story and then they bring them back to life it makes the death pointless a example of this is dragon ball where they always bring back the people who die
@@dytgyfgyffuh243As a fan of these games and knows the story within the back of my mind, no one within these trios actually "died" except for Xion. Even then she is a reconstructed Puppet made by Vixen
Like it's the equivalent of saying that Master Erqus' death was undone when he came back briefly from resting within Terra's heart for one final goodbye cuz his heart, body, and soul was already gone. The story behind that makes sense and it was still a tragedy
So again, "Death" within the Kingdom Hearts series isn't the only thing that leads to tragedy.
The other keyword to this, is sacrifice. Which is also a theme within Kingdom Hearts
2:52 minor corrections, when someone’s heart gets taken over by darkness, they create a heartless and a nobody, not when they simply die. Also, Kairi was able to save him since she’s a princess of light.
Agreed. It had some hella dark moments that really taught me important things as a kid. Would explain why loading up kh3 the forst time and letting dearly beloved 3 play in its entirety will make any fan cry fr. Does it for me everytime
Agreed!
Xion was made by what's his face, namine and Roxas were made by soras sacrifice
I feel bad mostly for Roxas and Ventus, they went through damn much 😭
And in the end, Sora saved them all so they could finally live the lives they wanted but they couldn’t save Sora
ok I’ve been trying to get into KH for a while and this video helped me so much even tho ik the video wasn’t dedicated to help ppl looking to get into the fandom. But I think I’m going to get KH2 for my first kingdom hearts game once again ty so much!
(Also you earn a sub. I never really watched analysis vids but it something about the way you make yours that really hooks me so keep up the good work!)
great choice to pick KH2. in my opinion, that's the best game with both story and gameplay
I only played KH recently and as an adult, but at the end of the first game, when Donald yells, “Sora!!! Come back Sora!!!” Man, that part always gets me
I'd love to see a Video about Kingdom Hearts 3, you just showed how tragic this story is and why this story moves me. I love those games, every one of them
Its currently in progress, Ill make sure to let you know! So do I!
12:23 actually, this is a common misconception. From her point of view she was there for only about a year but from everyone else’s, she was gone for 10 years
This content is amazing! Had to run it back twice bro!! We need a whole 4 hours retrospective on the whole KH series brooo! Lol
thanks for supporting it bro!
Kingdom Hearts BBS made my little 14 year old self cry so much. the endings were so bitter and me never owning KH beforehand made me think "Damn, That's it?"
I agree Birth By sleep is tragic but I feel like 358/2 Days was just as sad and tragic
That ish still haunts me to this day.
Yeah everyone talks about this kinda stuff when It comes to tragic kh stuff but no one talking about the story our character. We are kids forced to battle other kids and pretty much kill them also then get our memories erased and then having to betray your friends and sacrifice yourself for them. Who knows what else happens to the player in missing link but the fact that he raises xehanort thinking he is the true child of destiny but is actually the seeker of darkness is crazy. Dark road is even worse too 😭😭😭.
Ironically, "Kingdom Hearts" kinda drained my faith in humanity for a time, but then "Legacy of Kain", "Evangelion", "Serial Experiments Lain", "Madoka Magica" and "Drakengard" got it back.
Because the truth is, tragedy can bring hope. Hope of change. Radical change and justified payback. "Kingdom Hearts" ever since 2...justifies gaslight and gives that illusion the world's time is meaningless through the power of friendship.
I still love the first KH game so very, very much. It's heartbreaking, beautiful, sweet, and earnest even when it's painfully cheesy, lol. Thank you for this video highlighting the weight the games' stories have.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
show this to anyone who says that Kingdom Hearts is a kids game (as in meant as an insult, as if movies or games for children don't deserve good quality stories which they actually do otherwise other adults wouldn't appreciate masterpieces like Kingdom Hearts either).
Great video my man. I played a lot of the games except KH3 but the story gets so confusing I gave up on it. But you got me caught up I’ll be waiting for the next one
Yaknow i never realized it until you pointed it out
But sora is a badass kid
Realizing he has to end his life to save Kairi, coming to terms with it almost immediately and doing it with a smile
That’s badass
You gonna blow up bro you got the talent
That means so much to me, thank you!
Listening to this reminds me of the fact that i wrote a fanfic that had some elements right about KH3, lol. I wrote it years ago, before 3 came out and i did get some aspects right in it, but it was totally different than what we got haha
Could you please explain how different it was ? And where can I read it ?
KH hits so damn hard that I ALWAYS get goosebumps and tear up listening to the intros/outros. Fuck i get emotional just thinking about this epic tale that helped shape my morals and personality.
What is next for Sora. The ending to KHIII was so uncalled for. I thought KHII was enough for him until the message in the bottle came. It was a perfect ending, and he finally reunited with Riku and Kairi...
it was clear that kingdom hearts had to end with the second chapter
@@SadynoYeah, no, it would’ve sucked hard if we didn’t get anything else
@@gengargamer5657 me too, but that was perfect
@@Sadynokingdom hearts should’ve ended at chain of memories? Lmao, nah
KHII is not a perfect ending, for Sora, or the actual plot, and many of the other characters. Roxas and Naminè are trapped within Sora and Kairi and we’re supposed to accept this as if it’s totally normal and not horrifying. Most of the true nature of Xehanort, the main villain, and organization xiii is completely unexplained in an unsatisfying way. Which is why they made 358/2 days and birth by sleep to flesh it out. The KH2 ending is good on paper, but feels too “safe” in retrospect and leaves a lot to be desired.
no matter if i agree or not if was good enough to listen to the entirety of what you had to say about it which in itself is imo a good thing
Yeah, balling my eyes out. Thanks dude
I cried while editing this, I undertsand!
Kingdom hearts was a very deep game for my personality and changed a lot of things i love it even when the story some time was so bad ... this game is perfect and My heart will be forever my guiding key
Ironically, "Kingdom Hearts" kinda drained my faith in humanity for a time, but then "Legacy of Kain", "Evangelion", "Serial Experiments Lain", "Madoka Magica" and "Drakengard" got it back.
Because the truth is, tragedy can bring hope. Hope of change. Radical change and justified payback. "Kingdom Hearts" ever since 2...justifies gaslight and gives that illusion the world's time is meaningless through the power of friendship.
@@JabamiLain just like you i was no longer have faith in humanity but unlike you i was thinking. oh kh 2 was a very hard one in my feelings in fact i don`t have a very strong heart i always sound like cold and hursh but kh and draken nair helped me a lot with those points and the way they put me back to the right place was so amezing. becuse of persona5 royal and nair and kh2 and outer wilds i started to feel and expirence life again and they were a life changing games,
and im sorry but i watched eva and it was bad a very bad anime nothing was good in that thing
I am watching this 13 days after it upload
Dude I cried for multiple entries… 1, 2, 358/2, through my teens 😂. Was my fav series for a long time.
the part that killed me was the entirety of COM, no one believes you, no one listens to you, you are all alone..........shit was so relatable..........
Sounds like a "I have no mouth, but I must scream" scenario. Or something similar, that is.
I really like the video. And it’s so sad to see how normal kids end up in misery even though all they wanted was just a normal life. I love this series but hotdayum is it depressing.
358/2 Days is hands down… The most depressing game in the series, especially on the DS.
You play as a nobody…. a husk of someone else’s heart. You are confused, not knowing wtf is going on and you work a 9-5 while trying to figure out everything.
You make a best friend and fall in love but that all gets taken away from you, your loved one dies and your best friend conforms to the man. Your entire memory gets wiped out then leading into KH II you repeat to confusing cycle and you lose yourself… to your true self.
Damn
5:55 I'm surprised that you never mentioned that Ven was going to suggest they kill him to stop Xeanort's plan for the X-blade
Roxas and Ventus are very sad and tragic, they were only born/created to fulfill a purpose instead of getting to live their lives and be free, they have no families, no mom or dad and can only find comfort and bond among their friends.
I remember expecting resolution at the end of 2 and it just ended with Sora and Kairi being separated again. Then I expected resolution in 3, and it ended with Sora and Kairi being separated again 🥲 It’s been endless tragedy for over half my life 😭
So glad I’m not the only one who thought this game was sad ash (as heck)
And yet thanks to its convoluted and constantly retconned story, it's very hard for most to see just how dark the series can be.
The community loves to fixate on the mechanics of how all the batshit crazy stuff happens in these games but for me what really makes Kingdom Hearts be itself is the tragedy and the heartfelt moments. Personally i could care less about how time travel works as long as it later down the lines delivers on that powerful, personal feeling this series channels so well. I hope the series going forward focuses less on the mechanics (cuz at the end of the day it is a universe filled with whimsy) to deliver stories closer to its characters.
Despite all the jokes and memes, a series that can entertain millions over a decade and still have them excited for what's next is doing something right. While I really didn't like 3's story, I am still looking towards the future and what they plan to do.
Sora didn't off himself. He releases his and others hearts from within himself. He didnt lose his heart which is why he came back to his physical form.
The real tragedy of Kingdom Hearts is that Sora's dinner went cold
Oh yeah I forget that papa Xa straight up tried to dump Ventus’ body at the beach 😂
WHEN YOU WALK AWAYY
Worse part of dream drop and kh3 was forgetting how Soras happiness is a front to his depression
SPOILERS FOR DARK ROAD AND UNION X
i also love how the vilains are tragic too. Xemnas for example, is lost between two identities: Terra and MX. He also dosen't have a heart to understand emotions and when he finally can feel something, he can only feel pain and suffering. And also, uh, ✨Dark Road✨
another example is Saïx/Isa: he wanted to find his lost friend with Axel, but Axel decided to abandon them when he made new friends. Saïx, consumed by jealousy and the feeling of betrayal, decided to come back into the organisation instead of staying as Isa. And if i remember well, Axel/Lea felt worried after he saw that his boyf- *cough * his friend Isa wasen't with them when they woke up as peoples
And Marluxia/Lauriam who lost his sister and was sent into the future and all that stuff
Was that ever a question ? Ever since "Chain of Memories", it has been pretty obvious.
I cried so hard watching this
Great video! I can’t remember the name of the song playing at the beginning, can anyone remind me of it?
MAN, WHO IS THE MASTER OF MASTERS!?!?
it's sora duhhhhhh
I agree that KH is tragic and i hate that you didnt have the time to talk about KH3 because yes it does solve everyone elses problem excepts Sora. He's the only one missing. If you get the chance though please let everyone know about the prequel Union Cross. I think that story is a lot more tragic than the installments you talked about. Yes there is betrayal but Union Cross is on another scale.
Sora doesn't have a problem. He made the decision to mess with time. He knew there'd be a consequence.
The real tragedy is that I’ll probably be 100 years old when KH4 finally comes out >:|
Like bruhhh I was 11 when this came out and now I’m about to be 32. Square Enix what are you doing to me ?!? Le sigh
Great video
I feel unworthy of even playing. The only one I ever completed, I believe it was on psp or something. It might've been a hacked memory card, but the only one I ever finished was with Axel always saying, "Got it memorized?"
you can do it
Please talk about the story of KH3 i need to hear more from you about this
It indeed is a tragic story. Story of potential crossovers that never could be realized due to insertion of too many original characters that never die and convoluted storytelling.
What you mean we are not talking story of this franchise past KH1?
So, you’re wrong on multiple fronts. The characters do die. In multiple of the games. The original characters are why most of the core fanbase actually cares about it. The crossover aspect is a nice novelty, but most people playing it don’t really care about that aspect. More than the actual story and character arcs, and obviously the gameplay.
Slight misconception I caught. It's Naminé that forms when Sora sacrifices himself not Xion. Xion is a Replica or "fake human" made by Vexen that syphoned the scattered memories from Sora while she was developed in castle oblivion, mostly memories of Kairi since Repliku was made by Sora's memories about Riku.
That's why Xion looks like Kairi since she takes the Form Sora remembers her by.
With time she forms her own memories and heart separate from Sora's memories but still holds on to them since she doesn't know if separating from them would mean loosing herself although we get the confirmation in KH3 that she just had to let go of the personality others pushed on her and embrace the one she developed together with Axel and Roxas.
Xions name is actually No.i the "i" standing for imaginary number since she wasn't meant to be a true person on conception to begin with yet formed her own due to her love for her friends.
yeah i made so many mistakes
The IP is a hyucking heartache but I will see it through🫡
i dont know what this is but thank you 😭❤️
Thought we were doing order of release. We vent from 2002 to 2010.
Here, I thought my disliking for Kingdom Hearts 3 was just because I was taught how to write stories.
Such education makes one critical.
But no. Almost everyone hates it.
it was a tragic and good and deep story untill kh3
Kingdom hearts is one of the most hood stories of all time. 3 kids that believe there’s more to life than the neighborhood and decide to run away. The big homie Riku wasting his talent by hanging with the wrong crowd. Sora making the right choices and being chosen over Riku sparking a rivalry between responsibility and clout. Kairi being the girl next door that the boys compete over until she chooses the one with a bright future over the boy choosing the streets. Hood AF
SIR, YOU SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN WHEN YOU MENTIONED YOU'D BE TACKLING THE SERIES IN RELEASE ORDER AT 0:40
Other than that you do a decent job covering things, just miffed this doesn't follow either in game chronology or release order. I'm hoping and looking forward to you covering the rest in a second video though
IM SORRY
You make a good other
Man... are there any members of the original team...?
30 years later the same team CAN'T be around anymore... 😂
I'm gonna guess games 1&2 are the same team, and the rest was made by whoever had spare time.
Well, that explains some stuff.
They made a new team for the non titled games of KH. I think they were good games, their stories were good and the rpg mechanics were creative enough to make up for the less complex/grounded combat.
Kh3 though had a bad story and mediocre to bad combat with no rpg mechanics.
The og team worked on FF/square titles. Versus 13 had the og team members on it. It just all fell apart for KH when vs13 was canceled.
@@XFR18if you think kh3 had bad gameplay I highly encourage you to play the game on critical mode and the REMIND DLC. Because it’s arguably the best in the series.
Ironically, "Kingdom Hearts" kinda drained my faith in humanity for a time, but then "Legacy of Kain", "Evangelion", "Serial Experiments Lain", "Madoka Magica" and "Drakengard" got it back.
Because the truth is, tragedy can bring hope. Hope of change. Radical change and justified payback. "Kingdom Hearts" ever since 2...justifies gaslight and gives that illusion the world's time is meaningless through the power of friendship.
You gotta do KH3 Remind
expect to see my lawyer.
why D:
@@Sappyhourr you're getting sued
I really don't see how KH is a tragic tale since Sora could just "friendship" his way out everyone's problems. There aren't even any perma death except Xehanort and Eriqus. I mean, even if Sora dies permanently in the ending of the series, the wouldn't really bother me since I never really got what people saw in someone so boring.
SORA ISNT BORING
@@Sappyhourr to me he is.
You're missing union which has the saddest story tbh. The master of masters basically manipulates the faction masters into starting the keyblade war. Tons of children die
i'll talk about that soon!
i agree
Can't wait for your next video on kh3.
Yes it was bad
you're awesome
Can someone explain to me why sora had to go to sleep and why namine was created and why she he the ability so mess with soras memories
Naminé is technically Roxas's sister, in essence. She was created at the same time as Roxas, as Kairi's nobody because Kairi's heart was released from Sora's body. Roxas had Ven's heart (hence the resemblance).
@@LycosHayes did sora start losing his memories because namine did something, or did sora star losing them because of roxas exisiting?
KH is the game I can't relate to at all as i don't like Disney of any of the original main characters in KH, but i liked the game play of kingdom hearts as its a casual JRPG.
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Where's the next video?
Please tag me in the next video. This was sooooo helpful!
@@alexkelly5815 of course! thanks so much for watching a commenting, you're great!
I mean kh3 just doesn't hit as hard. I love the game but definitely not as well written out as the rest of the stuff that happens
KH3 was a melted ice cream cone of shit. A literal Disney Theme Park add. Some how manage to have worse combat than pervious instalments. NO Final Fantasy characters, NO colosseum, an annoying immersion breaking twitter where the game continuously want you to look at, The longest and more non challenging boring final battle where the hardest part is finish it with out developing Carpal Tunnel on you thumb. KH3 is more water down than diarrhea. One that I pray one day get fixed. A real disappointment, sadly.
Sora when he finds Kairi after years: -gives her a hug-
Sora when he find Riku after years: -on his knees crying and shidding himself- "I looked everywhere for you!"
Biggest tragedy is how useless Kairi is. Home girl spent an indefinite amount of time in stasis training with Lea, and she gets bodied IMMEDIATELY. puts up -90 fight. She will NEVER shine.
The real tragedy is how dogshit kh3 ended up being for no reason other than laziness.
Most likely it's because it doesn't make any sense
haha
I'll tell you what's REALLY tragic about it, the fact that we won't be able to play Kingdom Hearts 4 until we're probably like 70 years old because Nomoron-I mean Nomura is obsessed with making us wait.
After the way he handled KH3 after years and years of build-up to the finale of the Xenahort saga I honestly don’t care for KH4.
Now, now… we will probably get it by 2029. With 3 years of missing link events.
He’s not obsessed with making you wait- game development for AAA games takes much longer than it did 20 years ago and these games take a long time to produce. You’re really exaggerating.
@@Erikthedood I understand, but he should have waited until the game was further into development before announcing it.
SPEAK UP!
okay :(
This was already so obvious. No reason to make a video explaining it to other people. Why the hell would anyone want their understanding of KH lore to be narrated in your voice?
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BBS is a tragedy for sure. Other KHs are not so much. Kh2 kind of concluded it on a happy note with the original 3 coming back together. Then KH3 makes the 'super' happy ending where dead characters are all revived. The whole series is now not a tragedy because of kh3 ending
The characters that returned in KH3 were never “actually dead,” they were in an existential limbo where it was possible for Sora to bring them back. It also isn’t “happy,” either, Sora fades out of existence out of the cost of bringing everyone else back. If anything, it’s bittersweet.
I knew once you sayed kh 3 was bad that your opinionnwas just horrible
KH3 wasn't bad, but it did not meet expectations.
It felt rushed and not properly fleshed out, missing alot of features that could've made the game a proper successor.
It was about the final battle, everyone coming back together, and we only got to see from Sora's perspective.
It needed the birth by sleep treatment, giving you all sides of the full story.
Edit: yes, I've played all the games and know the lore behind the mobile games too, KH3 was still slapped together haphazardly
This is why I don't like kingdom hearts 3 it ruins all the sadness and tragedy by bringing the characters to life like how dragon ball use the dragon ball to bring people back to the life making death meaningless
It really didn't ruined the tragedy or sadness of it all but to each their own
You don't understand what happens to Sora yet, and Kingdom Hearts 1 literally had two "revivals" demonstrating how they jump rope with mortality. Just because you accepted it as a one-off doesn't mean the framework wasn't always there.
@@sky_pirate you don't have to get angry I am just saying my opinion
@@dytgyfgyffuh243 I wasn't angry, just internet tone.
No one was dead, though. Except Eraqus.
And all of this is EXACTLY WHY im so MASSIVELY PISSED about Kingdom Hearts 3's 'Secret Ending'.
It IS a tragic story, always has been.
EVEN INGAME youre told "Sora, if you do this, its over. Youre gone." and of course hes doing it to go save Kairi, again.
That image, of them ALL sitting together with 'just' Sora missing, clearly telling you he did it?
That is the PERFECT ending to this 20 years long adventure.
Tragic? Yes. But thats how it is sometimes, especially if the entire Series was a Tragedy to begin with.
But NOOOOOO we need to keep Sora in some other world.
F that, for real.
i agree, takes the tragedy away
@@Sappyhourr Its BS is what it is. They TELL YOU "Hey, this has consequences." just for there to BE NO consequences.