no they arent and youre just being a Korea hater for no reason, and if theres so much wrong with korea why not just go back to your country? why throw stones from a glass house?
I think us foreign women do fantasise being with korean guy, yes it's so true kpop kdrama's has influence alot of western women. Even some wants marriage 😮 wow I say, I have few friends who are korean even they tell me is off putting at times. 😢 I dare not say it 😊I rather call the guy by his name. 💢💯🙌🏾🇬🇧
I think you should learn what a fetish really is and distinguish the difference between a fetish and an influenced preference. Being obsessed to the point of sexual desire is not what most women experience when they become attracted to someone. They aren't looking to fulfill sexual desires, they have genuine interests in these individuals based on what they've been viewing. That's just not the same as a fetish.
In my opinion, yes I do think Korean men are being fetishsized..Its ok to find Korean/Asian men attractive..But on social media you see something these days thats like a monster..All these girls w their look at me with my "Korean" bf, husband videos and Instagram pages and tik toks..And you see other girls in comment sections saying things like I want a "Korean" it's weird to see ppl say things like that its almost dehumanizing..Its one thing if you want to go to Korea to experience food and culture but happen to meet someone rather than intentionally seeking someone out because of their nationality, that is caring less about who that person might be as a human being , that is fetishism..
I'd like to think that korean media simply showcased what hollywood failed to, which is that asian men are also attractive. They've been desexualized for decades, with the nerd stereotype at worst and the sexless martial arts fighter at best. It's crazy how the media can have such a huge impact in the perception of real life people
Yeah this is true as hell. As indian guy living in america i agree as hell. Us indian dudes & east asian men in general its always potrayed so bad in hollywood movies smh 🤦🏻♂️
@@auricia201 finding someone attractive is not sexualizing them. it's simply treating them like a fellow human, instead of the sexless stereotype hollywood built for asian men
Forget desexualized. It's basically white supremacy and racism. White men tried to position other races as inferior for decades. They've been pretty blatant about their hate towards Asian men. And today we still deal with violent hate crimes, political propaganda, and political attacks. It feels like America never learns.
6 years ago I had a Korean boyfriend and I remember people around me including friends and family look confused when I would tell them he's Korean, and mention Gangnam style, Kim Jong Un...I even had a friend ask 'why?' as if you can't just date someone because you like them. There has definitely been a shift and Korean men are seen in a positive light nowadays. It's not harmful to be attracted to someone of a different ethnicity, it's just when people get ideas and unrealistic expectations from Kdramas and Kpop that it's weird
This is a western creation. For centuries, most western arts/literature/culture, wholesale demonized anything foreign. Sometimes it was looked as peculiar. Tolerance was d best d western world could offer to outsiders. A closed, exclusive club. Like a cult, u could only b a human if u r accepted as “one of us”. It’s y taking over entire continents and looting their resources and enslaving them as “cattle”, was easy. Even today, animals r treated as if they’re here for our consumption and not because they’re just creatures we share d planet with. We literally impregnate them to leech off of their bodily fluids and meat in warehouses. D rest of d world doesn’t even treat their farm animals that bad; some exceptions ofc.
blue shirt and plaid shirt were SNAPPING!!! love that they were being so genuine and honest. i really like this vid cause they were actually tell ppl “come back to reality. korean men are are just like men anywhere else. we are not your kpop/kdrama fantasy” lol
True. But all I've met have been very nice people. That is what has always counted for me. I never cared where anyone was from because it's the heart of a person that matters
I really don't think it's a bad thing for foreign women to have an increased interest in Korean men as long as it's not a fetish and they're realistic. They're just regular guys and deserve to be treated with respect, just like the foreign women deserve to be treated with respect and not like a "white horse" or a "black stallion." We're all humans. It's ok to be attracted to people of different ethnicities and cultures. It's a problem when it's a fetish and not genuine interest in the human being.
@@KG-ii2yx Well, it would be easy to jump on that band wagon. There's a lot of people pointing at "Korea boos" right now and people like to be part of the group, lol. Anyone who likes anything Korean is now automatically labeled a Korea boo 🙄 It was interesting, though. I've heard a lot of American Koreans say they think women who aren't Korean saying oppa is cringy, but all these Korean men seemed fine with it. I suppose it has to do with the differences in culture.
@@NsTheName yea lol, and then we got western guys from the west going to thailand vietnam with yellow fever and it is celebrated but western women do the same in asia and everyone goes nuts piece of advice, life is too short to care what these people think just do what makes you happy
I think it’s the same way with Americans too. My mom is from Mexico and her mother approved of my dad because he’s American. She sees Americans as rich, handsome and successful (which we know not all Americans are those things). At the end of the day, you can like a person from another country/culture but ask yourself “Do I like them because of who they are? Or because they’re a (ethnicity type).”
I traveled in central/south america and mexico. It is true the concept people have of americans who live in the usa is that ALL are very well-off wealthy. Instead, we are a diversified group of wealth to make us live comfortably. I myself appreciate traveling to those countries learning the culture, people, and the amazement how discipline they are with finances and how community and family bring happiness. I think every country you visit shows everyone is not the same but brings the culture and values to life. You can have wonderful experiences and build new friendships. Korea is no different like others in the comments said their is so much talent everywhere, music, art, food, technology, entrepreneurship and more.
@@nillyk5671 Thats not a thing outside of Latin America. Mention Americans any where and most people will think people from the states not Latin people or Mexicans.
I dated a white girl 20 years ago and all of her white friends said that we shouldn't be together because I was Korean. To have Korean men be in a positive image finally is refreshing. I know the media doesn't portray reality 100%, but at least it reverses the old view of Korean or any Asian male as being unattractive, nerdy, and 2nd tier
@@burrrrr8525 huh? I just meant to say how ppl mean east Asia as the whole of Asia and only east Asians are Asians , so I specified the term east Asians coz there r other Asians as well
I think what’s missing from this conversation is age. It’s young women, teens which is the primary target audience for k-pop/k-dramas in the west. Also knowing the difference between a fetish and a fascination. A fetish has expectations e.g. fair features, romantic etc. based on the fantasy that’s perpetuated by the media.
@@golbinnom young women are also grown. The primary majority are 14-24 demo of women. This group is considered young. And if they’re hooking up with Korean guys, the guys obviously don’t have a problem.
@@jennaisparadise lol, it's still a problem if the men are sleeping with them. Nightclubs are breeding grounds for "opportunistic" behavior. But that doesn't erase the fetishization. Regardless of age, it's never cool to fetishize a group of people. As a Black man in Asia, I've had my fair share of experiences being fetishized by locals and other foreigners alike. While I've been able to avoid going to bed with those that would see me as only a fetish, the situation isn't the same for everyone. Those that also play in it via self-fetishization are also complicit. But the root of the issue is people (regardless of age) who fail and or refuse to see people as anything but their ethnic features.
@@avecnayo I’m not saying it’s not a problem. The person responding to me prior to your comment mentioned young women going to clubs and hooking up with Korean men. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that those particular men have zero issue with being fetishized. As a black woman, I absolutely understand what it means to be fetishized. My comment was specifically clarifying that the target audience are the ones who are primarily doing the fetishizing. If you consider the age bracket, we can clarify a few things; they’re young, they’re sheltered/inexperienced, they don’t actually know any Korean people personally, and they don’t have no common sense.
Agreed. I don’t have a fetish for Korean men, I have a fascination based off research I’ve done in my quest to understand the Korean culture better. It just aligns more with my values than America does. Like, I want to move to Korea because of it. And I’m 45, so I’m not some puppy dog little girl fantasizing about Korean men. It was BTS music that I fell in love with before I became fascinating with Korean men and the culture.
LETS BE HONEST: Have you ever seen their BEFORE FAME pictures? All of them looked like any ordinary asian guy. Bts, should we say, have had plastic surgery and wear makeup - I think we all would look “good” w/all that stuff too.
@@JESUSISLORDforever888 In there before fame pictures they were all teenagers. Jin, the oldest member had just started college. The youngest JK, was just hitting puberty. EVERYONE on planet Earth looks like they're struggling at that age. And yes, everyone has a glow up, even if it's small, once you leave that awkward phase. Your skin clears up, if you're a guy your body fills out, shoulders widen. Now imagine if you had a team of people monitoring your skin care, gym trainers on call just for you anytime of day or night, people taking care of your hair, your clothing. Even barefaced, you would look better than most average people on the street. Even the member you find least attractive knows how to put forth his most beautiful features and physical strong points to a level that most men will never. Regardless, the immense talent, intelligence, good character, drive, confidence, lovely personalities and grace of those seven men (boys before debut, men now) are what makes them absolutely gorgeous to millions and millions of women, and men. And please, provide receipts on who you're claiming had plastic surgery.
@@femmefatale6550 I am not the one charging or paying for their surgeries so I would not have the receipts. I bet you all of them have had some type of surgery ...even if minor.
@@JESUSISLORDforever888 BTS is natural, go do ur research before u condem someone lmao. Ur comparing old photo vs modern photo. Obviously the old photo suck because technology back then suck, common sense u don't even need to ask something like that.
To be honest, this is just kind of like the fetishization that Japan and Korea have with Russian or Ukrainian girls for a long time. Or that a lot think that foreign girls are easy because of what they see in western movies/shows. But because this is a recent surge, I've been seeing a lot of "I will never date a Korean guy again" or "My terrible experience dating a Korean guy" and generalizing just from dating a few Korean guys, because they were expecting a K drama guy or something. Which unfortunately just seems to give them a bad reputation in general because of these videos. But people don't usually make videos about never dating a guy from their home country ever again, when they have a few bad experiences. There are bad and good people everywhere.
@@sara.cbc92Because it makes sense. Everyone always talks about how white women fetishise East Asian guys, which is true, but it never really gets talked about how it’s the other way around too. My friend, whose European, kept getting followed in SK and asked if she was “russian” and kept getting asked if she would hook up with these random Korean men because it’s a stereotype there that Russian women are prostitutes.. not just that too but also there’s a saying about “riding the white horse”, which means getting layed by a white girl. In Japan too there’s stereotypes about white women being easy and black women being “good in bed”, but that never gets talked about for some reason.🤔
For me personally, something that stood out when I started listening to K-Pop and watching K-Dramas about 3 years ago, was the respect everyone has for each other. I'm not talking about just the men. I mean everyone. And friendly as well. I believe this is where the culture comes in. "Basic" things like addressing another person, or eating, etc. everything is done with so much respect and thoughtfulness towards the other person/people. It's really beautiful to see. And it's not just in K-Dramas. You witness this on reward shows, interviews, vlogs, etc. It's really something else. I understand you might get your odd one here and there, but which country doesn't? All I'm saying is the "Western world" can learn a thing or two from South Korea. I'm busy learning Korean and Hangul now, just because it's such a fascinating language. I'm glad I stumbled onto Korean "everything". Hopefully, one day I will be able to visit. 🙂💖
My husband is Korean, Im from Europe. ( I was not into kpop or anything like that).Let me tell you, Koreans have a lot of opinions on white and black women, a lot of stereotypes. They will use derogaotory terms sometimes to diminish my relationship with my husband. They many times think im Ukranian or Russian, and they tend to sometimed think they are whores, which is absolutely unacceptable, but it does happen occasionally. I come from a country that has literally almost no mixed mariages, and I think im the first and only from my town, and county that has married an asian man. The opinion has changed drastically, I now regularly get questioned about kpo or people have generally positive reaction to finding out my husband is Korean. So, on both sides, there are gross generalizations by some people. There are hurtful terms used all the time. There are many challenges for us in Korea and in Europe where we live now. But, we are generally very relaxed people and dont react to these things harshly, and it proved to make our lives better. So, bottom line is, there are problematic people on both sides.
I think the sad thing is that some people refuse to acknowledge that other races can be attractive and will use every excuse in the book to make YOU look weird for being interested in someone different. There weren't a lot of East Asian guys in my schools growing up so that's likely the reason I never considered them in my dating pool until I got into Korean culture. People tend to jump the gun and assume I find Asian men attractive ONLY BECAUSE I'm a kpop/kdrama fan but I think that's such a weird assumption. I would never date someone I don't truly like as a person. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it's sad to think someone wouldn't find you attractive all because you're from a certain country. Just like most people in the world, I would say I like good looking people but that's subjective. You instantly become more attractive to me if you can make me laugh, we have good conversation, and you show you're a sweet person. Race/ethnicity/nationality NEVER cross my mind as a deciding factor in dating. For Korean men specifically, yall DO NOT need to look like idols to be attractive lmao
It’s all about whom u r surrounded by. I’m an Indian immigrant. When I joined d military I was away from family/friends and lived with non-Indians. I may b saw like couple in years. So, I automatically developed attraction towards whatever choices that I was given. Which was basically all assortments of ethnicity. To me, I don’t have an ethnicity preference, because it wasn’t like I was excluding anyone consciously. It’s all about availability and d stories u r told about other cultures.
@@isabellaloftis9196 I think, it helps to know d stories from their own native sources. Not foreign accounts of said culture. Outsider accounts r rarely authentic or accurately observed/depicted. Especially if they’re hostile to those cultures. For ex, if a culture considers another a “heathen/sinner”, that material is ABSOLUTELY guaranteed to b trash, if not dangerous. They end up corrupting/perverting info, instead of leaving their ego outside d door and simply absorbing it without judgement. It’s y most people can’t help but mix in their own accent when learning a new language.
I agree. I can't remember any Asian boys being at my school from elementary to highschool. There were a few girls but now that you mentioned this I have no memory of any guys. I never really saw them as an option.
Finding someone attractive is ok but dating them only because they belong to a particular nationality and you expect them to the way they are portrayed in the camera is weird
My first serious relationship was with a Korean-American. We were together for about 7 years and have a daughter. I learned a lot about Korean culture from his mother, and the culture has always been interesting to me (I'm generally curious about all different cultures) and I hope to travel there in the future to experience the culture firsthand. I have to admit that I do have a thing for at least one Korean actor, but I realize that he IS NOT the characters that he portrays. Koreans, just like any group of people, are all individuals and cannot be stereotyped based on Kdrama or Kpop idols.
Disclosure: I am obsessed with Ateez & K-dramas. My question to you is: From what I gather, Korean men are brought up to, generally, respect & protect females. Do you find this to be true?
@@barbaraanderson6400 It really depends on the individual. Some Korean men are very respectable and protective of women, and some Korean men are totally selfish and misogynistic. Good Korean men are really great, but bad Korean men are really awful- there is a big division…. What I experienced in Korea so far, young Korean men are very gentle, sweet, polite, sensitive, and tries hard to make his woman happy. They can be very romantic and passionate too. If you meet a good Korean man, you will be happy being treated like a princess. 😂 but it’s hard for foreign women find good Korean men because they tend to be taken quickly by Korean women 😅
@@marygood2095 being a geek is not a bad thing. It actually means that he's smart. You can't just say that he'll be alone forever despite he said he's not "gentle or romantic.".
Another great subject for discussion. I found all the interviewees honest and forthright. I'm a Kdrama addict so I get the illusion foreign fans have for Korean men. They just need to realize that it's not 'real' in general society.
Same can be said for Hollywood movies. If you go to Japan most girls think western men are hot, but that's based on what they see at the cinema or the fact that they don't search for bad-looking men online
@@MarkyNomad It definitely applies to most countries. Currently, the focus is on S Korea bc of it's popularity with K pop & dramas. That said, the focus on physical appearance seems more extreme and unattainable.
Lol trust me, the illusion breaks once they live here and start dating. Most foreigner women hate dating in Korea because it’s a nightmare. And unfortunately many kboo girls get caught in some sinister shit in Korea because of the illusion. Almost everyday in the online female expat groups there’s some young girl asking for help and the police won’t help. That’s why I suggest joining female expat fb groups or kakao chats to get the feel of things and to listen to others experiences because you won’t be able read the vibe like a native can. Internet and pop culture has over glorified the country despite being just normal lol
I love it how you've interviewed (in my opinion) very handsome men and they're all trying to convince us that Korean men are more normal/average like them...but they're really handsome! 😆 Honestly, I think because we've been exposed to something new and different that we find interesting. I don't think we're under any elusion that all handsome lead males from K-dramas are everywhere in SK.
If any foreigners want to experience an amazing side of Korean culture that isnt broadly known globally, try looking into Korean hiking culture and baseball culture. I spent a large chunk of my 2 month trip in Korea hiking and went to multiple baseball games. I met the most genuine, kind, happy, and curious (in a good way) people in those settings. Sharing food and drinks with total stangers and talking about our lives was just amazing.
@magaliep34 1 group I just met while hiking. We chatted at one of the rest areas along the trail. The 2nd was through AirBnB activities. I booked a hiking tour for a couple dollars and we did a group hike and went to a few local eateries.
It is a very important topic! I think it’s also the same with stereotypes about European girls because not all of them are skinny, white-skinned and tall (because we all different and beautiful in our own❤) so that’s good to rise this topic and talk about it
As an Asian man I can tell you that we never once thought European women to be skinny. It's Asian women that are known to be thin then East African women coming in second.
I feel the standard for euros is more “tall white blonde” than skinny, but i agree. I am half japanese and half filipino. A lot of my cousins and aunts back home in the phillipines have always asked me if i had a white boyfriend and fawned over the prospect. A lot of my male cousins wanted to get with white women and put them on a pedestal over their own women. Lighter skinned asians like japanese and koreans are also placed on pedestals. The reason my Filipino family fawns over me for being mixed is the same one why i’m not in contact with my Japanese family. They disowned my dad after he decided to marry my mom. You can even see this in kdramas. I’ll give an example in the show business proposal. The male lead is a rich guy being pressured to get married. He doesnt want to get married so hes very blase on dates with fellow korean women. His father remarks that hes open minded and can date western women if thats his preference. Note how he said western (and when he said it - meant white). The dad would not have been accepting if the foreign woman his son wanted tk marry was black or brown or a darker skinnef asian. This act of placing certain races on a pedestal is fetishization in and of itself.
I loved hearing their opinions, and they mentioned an important fact that deviates from Hollywood media. In Korean dramas, specifically in rom-coms, men tend to be gentle and sensitive, which is different than in most Western media, which portrays men as tough and rough. This could be good, as men are more allowed to show emotions, and also create healthier "fantasies" than the" bad boy," so that women start looking for these more positive traits in relationships. However, it can also be used by some men as a way to lure people, and in reality they are not like that. Also it creates immense pressure for the men to be the "perfect boyfriend," which is unhealthy.
What do u meam they dont portray the bad boy image in korean media...look at boys over flowers and all the corporate mean ceo that gets tamed by the female lead ... Kdrama is full of them .
Boys over flowers and shows similar to that send a very unhealthy message to young girls .... Its says its ok to be mistreated and abused...just hold out a little longer and you can change him .... When in reality once an abusive jerk most times always an abusive jerk .. If u meet a guy and he is an ass ...he will probably always be an ass... Listen to the red flags and RUN!!!!!
@@kimcole1093 true true. I meant more recent male leads, although most of the times it is the second male lead that’s the “green flag”. BOF is a drama that is hard to watch in recent times.
@Cinthia-ec6sk i found ut difficult to watch ...but domestic violence is a trigger for me .. So alot of the workplace abuse really pisses me off And having had a workplace bully for three years myself ....it really infuriates me. And i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would allow that ...i mean i put up with the emotional abuse cuz i needed to take care of my family ... But had someone laid their hands on me they would have been in jail ...i will not ever tolerate that for sure .. Sorry got off subject ...ugh
Plaid shirt is legit. Truth is people everywhere are eager to over-fantasize and have unrealistic expectations because they distract them from the more realistic and "less fun" sides of life- but they really have no idea how much they hurt themselves just to miss out on the simple beauty as well as complexities of *real* healthy relationship, and just life in General. There are stereotypes and fetishes for both parties from each side in general, but in the end it all depends on the individual. People having a more positive opinion of Koreans is great. Nothing is wrong with opening your horizons unless it leads to unrealistic expectations and unhealthy treatment towards others/yourself. If you're able to look at that person and not see anything but just "them" as a being, that's when you know you're on the right track. Foreigner or not, Korean or not, you care about them and they care about you the same. That's what matters. It's impossible to get there if you're looking for BTS in every Korean man. Or Scarlett Johansson in every foreign woman.
And for those who think it's a thing that happens only with teens, I can assure you, as a Brazilian girl, it is not! I know women in their 30s who would go crazy with an oppa hahaha Man, even my mom is addicted to those k-dramas, and those beautiful actors, and culture, etc.
I’ve never understood why people think it’s bad to be more attracted to certain races…. You can’t help attraction. Regardless if it’s for the “right” reasons. However, it is ridiculous to have generalized views of how Korean men and women are based on entertainers or the media. Of course. The same as it would be for any race.
Thank You for this content. I appreciate your questions and everyone's response. I also appreciate how you interview people who speak Korean and English.
I really love these videos, just hearing different people's perspective and how they feel about things, it's nice to see but I also think it's just good to know. 🔥🔥
I came to study to Korea and all the western girls literally just came to study abroad wanting a Korean boyfriend, and they all got the most random not good looking Korean boyfriends after like 1 week of arriving, often they can’t even communicate.
i was introduced to Korean men through BTS music videos, then some K dramas… but, honestly, i find Korean men interesting mostly because videos like this, where you can see real men (on the streets), talking, giving their perspectives on subjects, looking at their fashion styles, seeing couples (mixed or not) being in love; and i find them more attractive because of videos like this! most of them (who are interviewed for videos like this) are so nice, kind, well spoken, polite, and good looking! so, you ordinary Korean men- don’t think we compare you with idols, because we don’t! we appreciate you for you! 💛
Let me add my grain of salt here. I started to learn Korean because I was impressed with the philosophy of life after having seen the movie spring summer autumn winter, and the series Black. For me this was a refreshing new way of looking at life and how to deal with life. While learning Korean (for the fun of learning a new language) I noticed how much I like the Korean humour and autoderision. This is also when I discovered BTS. Next, I noticed how well spoken so many Koreans in interviews are, how they are so skilled in storytelling which is fascinating for my scientific facts-based brain. After all this, I started noticing that, yes, the men are beautiful in their own way - but seen with my western eyes, which means I’m attracted to features that may not be seen as beautiful or fashionable in Korea itself. People tend to look at others through their own lens, with their own background… what is attractive to one may not be so to another. In sum, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Thank you Korean culture and sensitivity, for helping me understand the world around me.
This is such a great topic! I find Korean men attractive but I don't fetishize them. There's a big difference. A couple of years ago I watched this movie in 08, 09 called Ninja assassin and I fell in love with the main character. He was one of the most beautiful men I've ever seen and I had no idea he was Korean. I see the beauty in all people and I've been like that since I was a child. That's why I don't discriminate, I like everybody lol but there are people that have this obsession with certain groups of people because of how they look and they become obsessed and that's where things get weird.
I don't know why they made a big deal out of it. The number of Koreaboo is only a minority, 99% of the foreigners in Korea are normal, only 1% are koreaboo. Yeah I don't understand why it's a big deal.
@@CoolNumber1 I think your calculation is wrong. Due to kdrama and kpop being very trendy, obviously it's going to lead to things such as koreaboos. There's also one for Japan. Maybe because of their films and anime, it still happens today too. I guess that's why it's such a big deal but it can be weird.
Is the main lead named Rain, and did he have long hair? And was the female lead a black woman? If so, I LOVEEEEE that movie so much and it made me feel seen even though there was no romance really between the two.
I didn't have strong feelings about Asian men in general. I loved martial arts movies...but one day, I was on Netflix casting about for something different to watch. I found "Romance Is A Bonus Book." What surprised me was how handsome, sensual and kind the male characters. It startled me because I had not thought that way before. Then I watched a bunch of other Kdramas. By "Startup," I was hooked. Sure not all Korean men are Hyun Bin or Dennis L, just like not all American men are Ryan Reynolds, Pitt etc...but I will say that Korean men have amazing physiques
@microwaveeee of course, media can and influences one's perception of people. It happens every day of our lives and has been going on for a very long time now. People don't have an issue when white people are depicted as desirable, but have issues when POC are. You can't tell me white media has not made Asian men the least desirable men. Even I fell into that for a period of my life when I was younger. Their are good and beautiful Asian men just like any other race.
23 years ago when in Japan with my students I admired the male teachers for their sensitivity and humble personality. A young teacher sang a love song to me; he was married with children but there was no premise of romance between us, it was simply a sweet gesture on his part. I also admired the people that wore masks in order to keep their germs to themselves. This simple show of respect, along with the deep bows that I received because of my advanced age really resonated with me. The Asian community is all about the greater good, and that sets them apart from other cultures including my own.
Are you a non east asian? Honestly, I'm east asian and I find him the most average out of all the guys interviewed. Hardly can be described as handsome, charmingly straightforward and honest yes. We asians always say western and asian aesthetics are very different, esp the way western man view some asian women and deem them attractive. Those they see as attractive who be deemed as ugly by us (lack of a 3D feel)
@@ymhktravel I am not a western person ..But I also share similar opinion to you.. But for western people they want to look for totally different features or opposite features than them in other races..
@@ymhktravel I agree with you. He was not a bad looking guy but, out of this group, the most average looking and I’m western. He had a good personality though and I appreciate he wanted to just be himself.
This is a interesting topic, since the popularity of kpop increased many girls in my country are obsessed with Korean features and looks, they go so far as to say a person looks like Korean if they have monolid eyes, its weird and disrespectful to say the least, appreciating a culture and its people is ok but associating a whole country and its population to a entertainment medium is not ok, regular Korean people are not kpop stars or kdrama stars, they are real people with real emotions like us, hope people understand this.
Even kpop and kdrama stars are not always the person they protray on screen. They have flaws, too. They make mistakes, maybe treat their significant other badly or have other issues.
You have to know that it has been refreshing learning about Korea through the K dramas, BTS, and hearing the language. My daughter has been to Korea , now speaks Korean , and is dating someone from Korea here in the UK. I personally love hearing the language. Come and visit London you’ll have a blast.💜🇬🇧🇯🇲🏴
2 random observations: The guy in checked shirt sounds so much like text-to-soeech generator when he speaks English. I have massive respect for him learning English. My observation is more a comment on how important intonation is in a language. I am currently trying to learn Korean and pronunciation and intonation is impossible to learn from a book. Second observation. I find it so interesting how many foreigners who learn english end up using the word "like" as a filler word. I remember in the early 2000s when it becwme popular and common, especially in teen girls, and there was a lot of criticism. In fact there is still criticism, especially when the word "like" is overused. It can be very grating when it is every other word. Anyway i just find it interesting that the word "like" seems to transcend cultures and languages when English is being spoken. I wonder if there is a neurological reason which is linked to how human brains work?
As a GEN-X African American female so let me just say the reason why I am loving their looks is because I grew up with only Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan as heartthrob Asian representatives in Movies. Now that we have this thing called SUBTITLES, more and more non English TV and Movies are at our disposal. I only took Spanish in school, not an Asian language available to me. Since becoming a BLINK and ARMY I have begun to learn Hangul but at my age, its not as easy as when I was younger. I've also always had mono/hooded lids so I saw someone with my eyes so that attracted me as well. Not quite sure why they assume BTS is the beauty standard... they WERENT and ARENT, except for Jin or V. If you notice, we fall in love with J-hope, RM and little Jimin who are not the Beauty Standard. None of the men you interviewed were unattractive so their perspective of their own value/worth is skewed by what they think we want or expect.
There wasn't many Asian Guys from Elementary to Jr High School The first Asian I found attractive to look at He was Vietamese bi-lingual or multilingual yet his Height he wasn't above 5ft.1inch yet I seen him in jr high. Elementary I do not recall any Asians yet I didn't know much about them So I thought Asians r Only 1.chinese _Vietamese 2_ 3Japanesw _ Taiwanese Then I learned about Marshallese Asians islander in high school and I really found them beautiful the men and their women youngwomen r very beautiful and I defended them against mean nonsense misbehaving persons So I could get closer to them though I was very nervous Yet they all very kind And yes they have their bad boys player men. also i found very interesting #MarshalleseIslanders with their different approaches in Flirting their culture their Beautiful language nDancing,Clothes,Accessories Fashion,Thierry Silky shiny strong bouncing Noir Jet Hair ,and eyes and voices. I ponder what they Bern cooking in the kitchen.
at this point you are projecting. You are speaking purely from your own experience, devaluing there's and calling there experience and logic of it all skewed which is sad to see and illogical (There the ones who are Koreans and Men IRL). The majority of people DO in fact use the media as a reference to how they want there "future Korean boyfriends" to act and be. They used BTS as an example of what the standard of beauty is not that they are the only standard of beauty for Korean men you missed the point entirely. No one is attacking ARMY relax. No one said you sexualize Korean men. Just because you don't see it in your personal lives doesn't mean its not there. Korean culture is booming so it only makes sense that people are sexualizing them its cause and effect. Its just really sad that Korean men cant express themselves without receiving backlash but when women do it all of a sudden everyone agrees with there experience. Men can be sexualized and it is just as creepy and distorted I hope you know that as well.
@@tosinojo7310 thats the worst comeback in a debate ive ever seen. Saying im emotional without anything to back you up isnt proving or debunking anything but admitting that im clearly right. You can tell me to calm down all you want but can you say im wrong? Im waiting. Im a passionate person if that makes u upset well I apologize for your insecurities but that has nothing to do with the conversation and its very irrelevant. Unless you have something valuable to add i would just not respond.
I don’t think it’s a fetish but more so people really enjoying and respecting Korean culture, food, entertainment, music etc. My love for Asians and their culture food etc started at 7 years old. I was and still am a huge fan of martial arts and the martial arts movies. As I got older I grew a love for the food, languages, culture, history, music etc through watching those movies and shows. There’s a lot to love about parts of Asia and the people far beyond what the men and women look like. A lot of their values and way of living is something to take notes on. So I believe it’s bigger than just foreign woman fantasizing over the men.
While there are people like us who truly just enjoy their culture, music etc and we find their common features to be attractive, there are Koreaboos who go around hugging random Korean men while calling them 'oppa', on the street without their consent 🤪
I really like historical Asian costume dramas. Because of that, I got a BTS video in my u-tube feed. I started watching a lot of their videos/listening to their music. I learned more about Korea because of it. I branched out to more modern Asian dramas. I watch things from many Asian countries, not just Korea. I like the fantasy created of a more gentle caring relationship, more innocence depicted. The world now can be quite harsh and this provides an escape. Sometimes though, it can create problems when you think "I wish my husband/boyfriend was more like that!!" But like romance novels (which I have never read or been into) this is a story, not necessarily real life although some may posess these qualities. We are all individuals and there is good and bad in all people and cultures. As far as age reference, I am a 68 year old white great grandma from the US.
Thank you for this interesting video :) I think it's important to say that media in general (especially when it comes to TV-Shows) is always a kind of filter of a country. You cannot learn about a culture or know how people are through TV-Shows. Also people in general are individuals no matter in what country they live. Of course they were socialized through the culture they live in but there are bad people and good people in every country. And by the way, being polite doesn't automatically mean someone is nice ;) I think it's important to get to know one another and not have expectations because watching a K-Drama etc. Since K-Dramas and K-Pop is mainly consumed by Teenagers I think it's important that adults (parents, teachers etc.) educate about the risk of fetishism or idealizing of people of certain cultures. Being interested in other cultures, wanting to learn about them and the people is a good thing in my opinion. It can help going against certain prejudices and racisms or other discriminations. I for instance am very interested in how asian countries in general are dealing with the topic of disability. For instance in Korea Autism seems to be seen as a disability while in the US and in European countries it's part of Neurodiversity. How does Korea as a country deal with people who are blind, deaf or have Down-Syndrome? Maybe you could take some interviews about that? Sending good vibes :D
all the guys saying “look at me, i’m not handsome” are in fact, handsome lolll but yeah i agree with them, not all Korean men are handsome and it’s just like that everywhere in the world hahaha! also, me personally, i wouldn’t feel comfortable calling anybody “oppa”😭😭😭idk i just cant do it
And still, many women even say they like to collect words like "noona" from their favorite idols. Even if it's not a real problem for most people, I still find it extremely weird 😵💫
@@trainerrosa695 But I heard that that is how Korea is. They think looking “chalky white” is beautiful. Ppl who are tanned is not considered attractive. They are into that “perfect”look. I also heard that how one looks is an extreme “push” in Korea. Everybody /anybody walking down the street must look like a model.
I love the brown shirt and black shades guy!! His confidence in English is so infectious and his thoughts are good too. Also, he still seems gentle for me 😅👍
I'm not into kpop(been a blink but I grew out of it). I've been watching kdramas since I was in middle school(not so much anymore) Honesly at the time I didn't know where is Korea. but one thing that I really like about Korea is their tv shows. Korean humor just clicks with me. As well the food seems to be tasty and the night life, transportation and fun activities to do. And the automatization and robotization of the city. That's why I want to visit Korea. Not for the men. They're only a added bonus.
Was literally talking to a friend about this yesterday🥲🥲 It is mainly teenage girls though. We can't deny that many Korean men are attractive but the "fetish/oppa movement" is so toxic...
What's funny is that I had a thing for Korean men from when I was in high school back in 2004. I wasn't watching k-drama and my only kpop group I knew of was Shinhwa and I knew one song of theirs, lol. I grew up in a predominantly Asian area and I just found Asian men attractive in general. I still have a thing for Korean men 15 years later, lol.
I'm 23 and I've always had a soft spot for Asian culture or Asian actors ever since I can remember. I remember clearly whenever there was Asian character in a TV show or movie I liked them automatically and it goes 10 years back to things like Maze Runner or Tomorrow when the war began. Then I had *no idea* what k-pop was. Many people discovered it at age of 12 and are now over it meanwhile my 12 y.o. self didn't know such thing even existed. I just admired the culture itself. Now whenever I explain to people that I started listening to k-pop *because* of liking Asians, and *not* the other way around, they are so shocked 😄😅
I really turned my expectations down when I went to Korea, because of course I know that the image portrayed in the media can not be for real, but then I was even more surprised that the people are actually really really beautiful and kind, both woman and men. I think they are a little too humble ㅋㅋ
The guy who was being interviewed at 4:55 has a similar mindset to me when it comes to dating. We intentionally try not to be extra nice and stuff because we want to be liked for ourselves more generally.
Not our fault they are attractive. Is called preferences. The majority can speak more than 2 sentences and dress well and have manners. It doesn’t mean the personality is all the same and rainbows and flowera BUT they have the dating game on point. They handle themselves well so the first attraction is there, then actually having a relationship is another discussion 🤷🏻♀️
I really like how these guys are so real. I just like the guy in the burn orange T-shirt 😂 for me I’m not romantic, I am not gentle.😂 Look at me, I am not a K-pops I’m not K-drama 😂 He is so real and it is so funny the way he says it🤣😂🤣 I love your videos. Just started watching them today and I’ve watched 4 of them already. I had to subscribe to your channel. I love videos. You are doing a fantastic job, keep it up! I’m a West African and I live in Dallas TX. I’m very proud of you young man 👍🏽👍🏽
I have always been into Asian men and different men from many cultural backgrounds, however I will say this. Kpop introduced me to their music in the best way possible and with a combination of Kpop and Kdrama this introduced me to their culture more in terms of the food, the scenery, the language. I don’t hold everyone to a unreachable standard as like the one gentleman’s opinion stated everyone is different, however I do believe there are some core values that are standard in Korean Men regardless if they are an Idol/actor or not. They have a tradition that American men don’t necessarily have that I find very attractive. There is a courtship that I see in the Korean Culture that I truly appreciate. Again we would be naive to think that all Korean Men are perfect base off the Idol/Actor Fantasy.
Same with western women. We don't sleep around. Not all white women have one night stands. We also want to be loved, appreciated or eventually get married. 😊
@이효민 I don't know your ressources but why do you even compare Korean women to western women? My point is that a lot of Korean men see western women as sex objects. No one deserves to be treated like that just because sex is not a taboo in the western culture.
@@Daisy_Dobby because for korean men perspective if western women come and are easier to sleep with than the korean women then they will automatically have that thoughtsbout western women. That they are easy
I have traveled to Korea multiple times. It is true that there is an increase desire for Korean men. Probably about 10 years ago, you would see more white men with local ladies, but NOW I saw so many Korean guys with foreign girls on a night out.
I was in Korea a month ago Not one foreign woman was with a Korean man I've watched interviews and foreign women are always shaky and bored in all the interviews.
@@LisaCutie409 where are you getting your statistics? According to Korea times, of the 16, 700 international marriages 12,000 were Korean husbands with a foreign wife. Korean women with a foreign husband only about 4,700. Where did you get 23% or 5% from? Granted with the foreign brides most of them were from Vietnam, China, or Thailand. It still stands to show that they are FOREIGN. Foreign women don’t always equate western.
@@LisaCutie409 the number of marriages overall has been on decline though whether it be between Koreans or Korean and foreigners. Many aren’t seeing marriage or having children as essential.
i really like to travel and im planning to go to korea next year. i first got into the music, but i really like the culture as well. i hope i can come to korea next year
My best friend growing up is Korean. I've always had an attraction to Korean people. Recently we met up (we're in our 30s now) after his divorce.. we were joking about this new Korean fetish wave, so he's divorcing the perfect time 🤣
@@tyliyahchambers7031 lol I was trying to make him laugh since he was pretty devastated.. but he's definitely out living his best, sexy well-off Korean man life right now 🥰
Yes, I so agree with those young men. However, they are are just so cute. Leaning about the true culture of Korean people is important and what I have found out, is very interesting. I do love finding out about different cultures and have no delusion of them. I wish I could visit South Korea as it is so beautiful from the pictures I have seen.
i’m sorry but the interviewer asked the same question throughout this whole video and the guests just described the same answer in different ways lol. Also when he asked the guy why is isn’t romantic and gentle… that’s such a weird question but he answered so well. Always be yourself 💙
I’m a black American female and I am interested in Korean culture and have been to Korea a few times. I do watch kdramas but I don’t fetish over Korean men, I don’t listen to BTS and I don’t have Netflix. This is all generalized stereotypes lol Edit: I did date a Korean man while there but it sort of just happened. I would not go there looking for anyone just because of something I saw on a drama 😂 Koreans have different personalities like anywhere else, stereotypes won’t go away but I think some people have to experience for themselves to understand that people from any culture or group aren’t all the same.
I think this shows that when people remain ignorant of each others culture it does put up barriers, and whilst there is always going to be good bad or neutral things about all cultures unless you at least try to get to know something about each other those barriers are never coming down. The hope is that people take the best of each culture and it helps make all cultures improve.....but a certain degree of keeping the culture is also good, we only have to look at the americanisation of so much of the world to know it has almost eradicated so many of the individual qualities that used to make travel interesting and exciting but it's like there seems to be a need for everything to be turned into an homogenous blob a bit like when you have play doh and all the colours get mixed up until it's just grey and you cannot make anything much with it anymore.
I don't know if this is coincidence or not but I agree with some comments that all of the guys interviewed here was pretty good looking. Especially the checkered-pattern one who is fluent in English. I don't know, he's seem to have a mysterious aura......or what should I call it, "alluring"?
Most people want to be desired bottom line, weather it’s a little fetishization or not. Asian men being more desired these days is much better than them not being desired at all. So who cares if these ladies are having a little fetish a lot of them end up learning a lot about the culture so at the end of the day it turns into a genuine interest along with some fetish energy too lol 😂 so what!! Most men fetishize women with large you know what and so on and so on and no body blinks an eye about that. Leave women and girls alone, let us have our fantasies in peace.
I would love to know some background information of the interviewees before each interview, just to see what chapter in life they are and have a better idea where their answers might come from. I would appreciate that a lot! Even if it just their age and profession.
I don't care to get mad on their behalf if they themselves don't care about being fetishized tbh, it's their decision how they feel about it. I see a lot of kpop/kdrama stans come for women that travel to SK to date these men calling it fetishization but we shouldn't really feel the need to speak for them if they didn't ask lol
Look how well kept and well dressed these guys are. That is why women are attracted to them. They simply take care ro look good at most times! That is what I find attractive about the Korean culture as a whole. The fact that they are all great looking helps!
I don't think there's as much stereotyping and fetishizing going on as Korean people think. Any country's entertainment is always influenced in some way by the realities of their culture so that makes foreigners curious as to how much of what they're seeing is true to life and how much is just tv, and when you're a foreigner, I think that's a really fair question. You can't know about what you can't see or experience in-person, so that leads you to ask questions to those who do know. But so many Koreans seem predisposed to thinking that all foreigners foolishly stereotype or fetishize them that they don't always listen when you try to ask questions and write you off as just being too immature and ignorant to tell fiction from reality. Like I'm over here trying to ask real cultural questions, but just bc I mentioned that it was a kdrama that I saw _______ in, they imediately stop hearing me and just start lecturing me on how tv isn't reality. It's really quite annoying bc they're upset about being wrongly judged but they don't realize how THEY are wrongly judging you when you aren't even wrongly judging them like they think you are. Idek at this point how many ridiculous comments I've received from Koreans suggesting that I'm incompetent, immature, unable to tell Asians apart, what I am and am not familiar with or some other negative thing simply bc they have stereotyped all foreigners in these ways. And the Korean TH-camrs are the worst about this. The level of condescension and treating us all like idiots is really mind-blowing. I've also been fetishized by Korean guys for my looks. Literally ALL of the things they complain that they think foreigners do to them (but that most foreigners aren't actually doing) they are doing those exact same things to foreigners. Even this video kind of proves that point. These guys all attribute foreign girls ideas of Korea and Korean men to kpop, kdramas, and BTS, not at all supposing that many of us have interests in and certain views of Korea for countless other reasons. I've also had several Korean guys ask me as soon as say hi "So why do you wanna learn Korean? Kpop? Lol. BTS?" Korean guys have constantly made me feel like I'm not me, I'm just what they stereotype foreigners as.
maybe we're all daydreaming about korean men because kdramas portray the men we would like to have: gentlemen - the opposite of the kind of men we see in real life. they say we have crazy expectations but are good, honest, caring men unrealistic? how sad! also: the guys that said they aren't attractive ARE attractive!
There is gentlemen and then there is simp 💀 Good, kind and honest are qualities everyone should look for and expect in a partner. But then there are those that look for a loyal puppy dog! (Both men and women) and I think kdramas portray that last one 💀 and that's the unrealistic (and unhealthy) part
@@auricia201 That's true, I always feel bad for the second lead guy who gets eliminated by the FL even though he's totally head over heels for her (usually) 😢😭
I think this happens to some extent, mostly amongst younger people. I feel like is the same as 20 years ago with the fantasy of Japan; its popularity was huge because of anime and pop culture and some just wanted to go and live that fantasy.
@@lilliancastillo8579 20 years ago it was just geeks. Being a geek now is much more normal so words like otaku, weeb or koreaboo were created. (Otaku was always there, but not until recently worldwide)
Hey Explorers do you think Korean men are being fetishized?
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no they arent and youre just being a Korea hater for no reason, and if theres so much wrong with korea why not just go back to your country? why throw stones from a glass house?
I think us foreign women do fantasise being with korean guy, yes it's so true kpop kdrama's has influence alot of western women. Even some wants marriage 😮 wow I say, I have few friends who are korean even they tell me is off putting at times. 😢 I dare not say it 😊I rather call the guy by his name. 💢💯🙌🏾🇬🇧
I say it should happen more. Asian boys summer 💪🏼
I think you should learn what a fetish really is and distinguish the difference between a fetish and an influenced preference. Being obsessed to the point of sexual desire is not what most women experience when they become attracted to someone. They aren't looking to fulfill sexual desires, they have genuine interests in these individuals based on what they've been viewing. That's just not the same as a fetish.
In my opinion, yes I do think Korean men are being fetishsized..Its ok to find Korean/Asian men attractive..But on social media you see something these days thats like a monster..All these girls w their look at me with my "Korean" bf, husband videos and Instagram pages and tik toks..And you see other girls in comment sections saying things like I want a "Korean" it's weird to see ppl say things like that its almost dehumanizing..Its one thing if you want to go to Korea to experience food and culture but happen to meet someone rather than intentionally seeking someone out because of their nationality, that is caring less about who that person might be as a human being , that is fetishism..
I'd like to think that korean media simply showcased what hollywood failed to, which is that asian men are also attractive. They've been desexualized for decades, with the nerd stereotype at worst and the sexless martial arts fighter at best. It's crazy how the media can have such a huge impact in the perception of real life people
Yeah this is true as hell. As indian guy living in america i agree as hell. Us indian dudes & east asian men in general its always potrayed so bad in hollywood movies smh 🤦🏻♂️
Thinking that sexualizing someone is progress is kinda weird though 💀
How about not sexualizing anyone (any race or culture) on Hollywood?
@@auricia201 finding someone attractive is not sexualizing them. it's simply treating them like a fellow human, instead of the sexless stereotype hollywood built for asian men
Forget desexualized. It's basically white supremacy and racism. White men tried to position other races as inferior for decades. They've been pretty blatant about their hate towards Asian men. And today we still deal with violent hate crimes, political propaganda, and political attacks. It feels like America never learns.
I completely agreed with you.
6 years ago I had a Korean boyfriend and I remember people around me including friends and family look confused when I would tell them he's Korean, and mention Gangnam style, Kim Jong Un...I even had a friend ask 'why?' as if you can't just date someone because you like them. There has definitely been a shift and Korean men are seen in a positive light nowadays. It's not harmful to be attracted to someone of a different ethnicity, it's just when people get ideas and unrealistic expectations from Kdramas and Kpop that it's weird
This is a western creation. For centuries, most western arts/literature/culture, wholesale demonized anything foreign. Sometimes it was looked as peculiar. Tolerance was d best d western world could offer to outsiders. A closed, exclusive club. Like a cult, u could only b a human if u r accepted as “one of us”. It’s y taking over entire continents and looting their resources and enslaving them as “cattle”, was easy. Even today, animals r treated as if they’re here for our consumption and not because they’re just creatures we share d planet with. We literally impregnate them to leech off of their bodily fluids and meat in warehouses. D rest of d world doesn’t even treat their farm animals that bad; some exceptions ofc.
Not only western people do it.
@@norapodlasky8278 yes the fetishism problem is worlwide but this video is only about western women sooo
'why' 😂😂
Gangam style, lmao I would have said the same thing ngl.
blue shirt and plaid shirt were SNAPPING!!! love that they were being so genuine and honest. i really like this vid cause they were actually tell ppl “come back to reality. korean men are are just like men anywhere else. we are not your kpop/kdrama fantasy” lol
Asian men aren't hot
They're not hot
True. But all I've met have been very nice people. That is what has always counted for me. I never cared where anyone was from because it's the heart of a person that matters
@@HoodQueen258 for you. Not for others tho.
I saw on TH-cam last time that Korean men actually doesn't like to be address as "Oppa" by foreign women
I really don't think it's a bad thing for foreign women to have an increased interest in Korean men as long as it's not a fetish and they're realistic. They're just regular guys and deserve to be treated with respect, just like the foreign women deserve to be treated with respect and not like a "white horse" or a "black stallion." We're all humans. It's ok to be attracted to people of different ethnicities and cultures. It's a problem when it's a fetish and not genuine interest in the human being.
It letterly rooted in fetishizing korean men as kpop idols
there is no issue at all, this k explorer guy just trying to shame women for no reason
@@KG-ii2yx Well, it would be easy to jump on that band wagon. There's a lot of people pointing at "Korea boos" right now and people like to be part of the group, lol. Anyone who likes anything Korean is now automatically labeled a Korea boo 🙄 It was interesting, though. I've heard a lot of American Koreans say they think women who aren't Korean saying oppa is cringy, but all these Korean men seemed fine with it. I suppose it has to do with the differences in culture.
@@NsTheName yea lol, and then we got western guys from the west going to thailand vietnam with yellow fever and it is celebrated but western women do the same in asia and everyone goes nuts
piece of advice, life is too short to care what these people think just do what makes you happy
@@KG-ii2yx lol no. If anything he's promoting them lmao.
I'm the guy who wear sky blue t-shirt :) It was great time to meet you guys and to do interview with interesting subject🔥
Your DMs about to get blown up
@@Lunicia전혀 비판받지않고 다 귀여워 할것입니다. 나는 한국인이고 확신해,,,,😮
@@Lunicia그리고 오빠라고 불렀다고 비판을 하는것은 미친짓이야ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그런사람은 진짜 없어🤔
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions!
Your points were interesting and it was great hearing your side as a Korean Local
I think it’s the same way with Americans too. My mom is from Mexico and her mother approved of my dad because he’s American. She sees Americans as rich, handsome and successful (which we know not all Americans are those things). At the end of the day, you can like a person from another country/culture but ask yourself “Do I like them because of who they are? Or because they’re a (ethnicity type).”
Nationality*
People from Mexico Americans too because they were born in the continent of America. I think you meant to say : the USA.
I traveled in central/south america and mexico. It is true the concept people have of americans who live in the usa is that ALL are very well-off wealthy. Instead, we are a diversified group of wealth to make us live comfortably.
I myself appreciate traveling to those countries learning the culture, people, and the amazement how discipline they are with finances and how community and family bring happiness.
I think every country you visit shows everyone is not the same but brings the culture and values to life. You can have wonderful experiences and build new friendships. Korea is no different like others in the comments said their is so much talent everywhere, music, art, food, technology, entrepreneurship and more.
Most Americans are overweight
@@nillyk5671 Thats not a thing outside of Latin America. Mention Americans any where and most people will think people from the states not Latin people or Mexicans.
I dated a white girl 20 years ago and all of her white friends said that we shouldn't be together because I was Korean. To have Korean men be in a positive image finally is refreshing. I know the media doesn't portray reality 100%, but at least it reverses the old view of Korean or any Asian male as being unattractive, nerdy, and 2nd tier
Yeah true
They only mean east Asians
@@strpa.mp4 ok so where are the non-East Asian government support for their image? Don’t hate the player hate the game
@@burrrrr8525 huh? I just meant to say how ppl mean east Asia as the whole of Asia and only east Asians are Asians , so I specified the term east Asians coz there r other Asians as well
Nerdy is attractive 🤷♀️
I think what’s missing from this conversation is age. It’s young women, teens which is the primary target audience for k-pop/k-dramas in the west. Also knowing the difference between a fetish and a fascination. A fetish has expectations e.g. fair features, romantic etc. based on the fantasy that’s perpetuated by the media.
not really. theres fully grown women in seoul who traveled all the way to korea just to go clubbing and have one night stands with korean guys
@@golbinnom young women are also grown. The primary majority are 14-24 demo of women. This group is considered young. And if they’re hooking up with Korean guys, the guys obviously don’t have a problem.
@@jennaisparadise lol, it's still a problem if the men are sleeping with them. Nightclubs are breeding grounds for "opportunistic" behavior. But that doesn't erase the fetishization. Regardless of age, it's never cool to fetishize a group of people.
As a Black man in Asia, I've had my fair share of experiences being fetishized by locals and other foreigners alike. While I've been able to avoid going to bed with those that would see me as only a fetish, the situation isn't the same for everyone.
Those that also play in it via self-fetishization are also complicit. But the root of the issue is people (regardless of age) who fail and or refuse to see people as anything but their ethnic features.
@@avecnayo I’m not saying it’s not a problem. The person responding to me prior to your comment mentioned young women going to clubs and hooking up with Korean men. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that those particular men have zero issue with being fetishized. As a black woman, I absolutely understand what it means to be fetishized. My comment was specifically clarifying that the target audience are the ones who are primarily doing the fetishizing. If you consider the age bracket, we can clarify a few things; they’re young, they’re sheltered/inexperienced, they don’t actually know any Korean people personally, and they don’t have no common sense.
Agreed. I don’t have a fetish for Korean men, I have a fascination based off research I’ve done in my quest to understand the Korean culture better. It just aligns more with my values than America does. Like, I want to move to Korea because of it. And I’m 45, so I’m not some puppy dog little girl fantasizing about Korean men. It was BTS music that I fell in love with before I became fascinating with Korean men and the culture.
I love the guy who said “bro look at me” I’m proof that not all guys in Korea look like BTS 😂 He is very handsome
Agreed.
LETS BE HONEST: Have you ever seen their BEFORE FAME pictures? All of them looked like any ordinary asian guy. Bts, should we say, have had plastic surgery and wear makeup - I think we all would look “good” w/all that stuff too.
@@JESUSISLORDforever888 In there before fame pictures they were all teenagers. Jin, the oldest member had just started college. The youngest JK, was just hitting puberty. EVERYONE on planet Earth looks like they're struggling at that age. And yes, everyone has a glow up, even if it's small, once you leave that awkward phase. Your skin clears up, if you're a guy your body fills out, shoulders widen. Now imagine if you had a team of people monitoring your skin care, gym trainers on call just for you anytime of day or night, people taking care of your hair, your clothing. Even barefaced, you would look better than most average people on the street. Even the member you find least attractive knows how to put forth his most beautiful features and physical strong points to a level that most men will never.
Regardless, the immense talent, intelligence, good character, drive, confidence, lovely personalities and grace of those seven men (boys before debut, men now) are what makes them absolutely gorgeous to millions and millions of women, and men.
And please, provide receipts on who you're claiming had plastic surgery.
@@femmefatale6550 I am not the one charging or paying for their surgeries so I would not have the receipts. I bet you all of them have had some type of surgery ...even if minor.
@@JESUSISLORDforever888 BTS is natural, go do ur research before u condem someone lmao. Ur comparing old photo vs modern photo. Obviously the old photo suck because technology back then suck, common sense u don't even need to ask something like that.
To be honest, this is just kind of like the fetishization that Japan and Korea have with Russian or Ukrainian girls for a long time.
Or that a lot think that foreign girls are easy because of what they see in western movies/shows.
But because this is a recent surge, I've been seeing a lot of "I will never date a Korean guy again" or "My terrible experience dating a Korean guy" and generalizing just from dating a few Korean guys, because they were expecting a K drama guy or something. Which unfortunately just seems to give them a bad reputation in general because of these videos. But people don't usually make videos about never dating a guy from their home country ever again, when they have a few bad experiences.
There are bad and good people everywhere.
They try to find kdrama's main characters in clubs and apps. biggest mistake.
Why involve Japan about a Korean topic? Silly dude.
@@sara.cbc92Re read his comment, he said that these two countries have a fetish about Russian and Ukrainian girls
@@sara.cbc92Because it makes sense. Everyone always talks about how white women fetishise East Asian guys, which is true, but it never really gets talked about how it’s the other way around too. My friend, whose European, kept getting followed in SK and asked if she was “russian” and kept getting asked if she would hook up with these random Korean men because it’s a stereotype there that Russian women are prostitutes.. not just that too but also there’s a saying about “riding the white horse”, which means getting layed by a white girl. In Japan too there’s stereotypes about white women being easy and black women being “good in bed”, but that never gets talked about for some reason.🤔
@@latinasawntop exactly 💀
For me personally, something that stood out when I started listening to K-Pop and watching K-Dramas about 3 years ago, was the respect everyone has for each other. I'm not talking about just the men. I mean everyone. And friendly as well. I believe this is where the culture comes in. "Basic" things like addressing another person, or eating, etc. everything is done with so much respect and thoughtfulness towards the other person/people. It's really beautiful to see. And it's not just in K-Dramas. You witness this on reward shows, interviews, vlogs, etc. It's really something else. I understand you might get your odd one here and there, but which country doesn't? All I'm saying is the "Western world" can learn a thing or two from South Korea. I'm busy learning Korean and Hangul now, just because it's such a fascinating language. I'm glad I stumbled onto Korean "everything". Hopefully, one day I will be able to visit. 🙂💖
My husband is Korean, Im from Europe. ( I was not into kpop or anything like that).Let me tell you, Koreans have a lot of opinions on white and black women, a lot of stereotypes. They will use derogaotory terms sometimes to diminish my relationship with my husband. They many times think im Ukranian or Russian, and they tend to sometimed think they are whores, which is absolutely unacceptable, but it does happen occasionally. I come from a country that has literally almost no mixed mariages, and I think im the first and only from my town, and county that has married an asian man. The opinion has changed drastically, I now regularly get questioned about kpo or people have generally positive reaction to finding out my husband is Korean. So, on both sides, there are gross generalizations by some people. There are hurtful terms used all the time. There are many challenges for us in Korea and in Europe where we live now. But, we are generally very relaxed people and dont react to these things harshly, and it proved to make our lives better. So, bottom line is, there are problematic people on both sides.
Where are you from?
Upvote !
I think the sad thing is that some people refuse to acknowledge that other races can be attractive and will use every excuse in the book to make YOU look weird for being interested in someone different. There weren't a lot of East Asian guys in my schools growing up so that's likely the reason I never considered them in my dating pool until I got into Korean culture. People tend to jump the gun and assume I find Asian men attractive ONLY BECAUSE I'm a kpop/kdrama fan but I think that's such a weird assumption. I would never date someone I don't truly like as a person. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it's sad to think someone wouldn't find you attractive all because you're from a certain country. Just like most people in the world, I would say I like good looking people but that's subjective. You instantly become more attractive to me if you can make me laugh, we have good conversation, and you show you're a sweet person. Race/ethnicity/nationality NEVER cross my mind as a deciding factor in dating. For Korean men specifically, yall DO NOT need to look like idols to be attractive lmao
It’s all about whom u r surrounded by. I’m an Indian immigrant. When I joined d military I was away from family/friends and lived with non-Indians. I may b saw like couple in years. So, I automatically developed attraction towards whatever choices that I was given. Which was basically all assortments of ethnicity. To me, I don’t have an ethnicity preference, because it wasn’t like I was excluding anyone consciously.
It’s all about availability and d stories u r told about other cultures.
@@RojaJaneman That is so true. The more you are exposed to, the less "weird" or "foreign" other people seem
@@isabellaloftis9196 I think, it helps to know d stories from their own native sources. Not foreign accounts of said culture. Outsider accounts r rarely authentic or accurately observed/depicted. Especially if they’re hostile to those cultures. For ex, if a culture considers another a “heathen/sinner”, that material is ABSOLUTELY guaranteed to b trash, if not dangerous. They end up corrupting/perverting info, instead of leaving their ego outside d door and simply absorbing it without judgement.
It’s y most people can’t help but mix in their own accent when learning a new language.
I agree. I can't remember any Asian boys being at my school from elementary to highschool. There were a few girls but now that you mentioned this I have no memory of any guys. I never really saw them as an option.
Finding someone attractive is ok but dating them only because they belong to a particular nationality and you expect them to the way they are portrayed in the camera is weird
My first serious relationship was with a Korean-American. We were together for about 7 years and have a daughter. I learned a lot about Korean culture from his mother, and the culture has always been interesting to me (I'm generally curious about all different cultures) and I hope to travel there in the future to experience the culture firsthand. I have to admit that I do have a thing for at least one Korean actor, but I realize that he IS NOT the characters that he portrays. Koreans, just like any group of people, are all individuals and cannot be stereotyped based on Kdrama or Kpop idols.
Asian men aren't liked in America
Is it Park Seo Joon?
@@user-mc5ch1rs4d No, although Park Seo Joon is very handsome and a great actor.
Disclosure: I am obsessed with Ateez & K-dramas.
My question to you is: From what I gather, Korean men are brought up to, generally, respect & protect females. Do you find this to be true?
@@barbaraanderson6400 It really depends on the individual. Some Korean men are very respectable and protective of women, and some Korean men are totally selfish and misogynistic. Good Korean men are really great, but bad Korean men are really awful- there is a big division…. What I experienced in Korea so far, young Korean men are very gentle, sweet, polite, sensitive, and tries hard to make his woman happy. They can be very romantic and passionate too. If you meet a good Korean man, you will be happy being treated like a princess. 😂 but it’s hard for foreign women find good Korean men because they tend to be taken quickly by Korean women 😅
i love the guy in orange tee "im not gentle, im not romatic" ' I want to be myself" hes so real🤣🤣🤣
He looks like some geek. I think he will stay being himself alone.
@@marygood2095 being a geek is not a bad thing. It actually means that he's smart. You can't just say that he'll be alone forever despite he said he's not "gentle or romantic.".
That guy is a legend! So funny and authentic... love him! 😂❤
@@haegeum3040 u will be thinking like that until u haven't dated someone like that.
All these dudes saying “Korean men aren’t actually that handsome”, meanwhile they themselves are all handsome 😂
None are
@@SylvesrerSam So insecure and jelous lol
@@SylvesrerSamstay mad white boi
@@victorzhao2736 small slanted eye
Another great subject for discussion. I found all the interviewees honest and forthright. I'm a Kdrama addict so I get the illusion foreign fans have for Korean men. They just need to realize that it's not 'real' in general society.
It's kinda like men of all the Hallmark movies.
why have such expectations of korean men though? they are men all the same, but in my experience, they are more polite and respect when people say no
Same can be said for Hollywood movies. If you go to Japan most girls think western men are hot, but that's based on what they see at the cinema or the fact that they don't search for bad-looking men online
@@MarkyNomad It definitely applies to most countries. Currently, the focus is on S Korea bc of it's popularity with K pop & dramas. That said, the focus on physical appearance seems more extreme and unattainable.
Lol trust me, the illusion breaks once they live here and start dating. Most foreigner women hate dating in Korea because it’s a nightmare. And unfortunately many kboo girls get caught in some sinister shit in Korea because of the illusion. Almost everyday in the online female expat groups there’s some young girl asking for help and the police won’t help. That’s why I suggest joining female expat fb groups or kakao chats to get the feel of things and to listen to others experiences because you won’t be able read the vibe like a native can. Internet and pop culture has over glorified the country despite being just normal lol
I love it how you've interviewed (in my opinion) very handsome men and they're all trying to convince us that Korean men are more normal/average like them...but they're really handsome! 😆 Honestly, I think because we've been exposed to something new and different that we find interesting. I don't think we're under any elusion that all handsome lead males from K-dramas are everywhere in SK.
yeah that sample was very attractive and not representative of the whole population lol
It's so ironic 😂
Yess. They were saying "we are not like kpop guys,handsome,etc" but all of them are really fine just like idols haha
They know how to groom and dress themselves well, which makes them pretty attractive imo
Right!! Most of them were rather soft-spoken too, and yet they're tryna make us believe that they are "not gentle" hahaha too cute urgh
If any foreigners want to experience an amazing side of Korean culture that isnt broadly known globally, try looking into Korean hiking culture and baseball culture. I spent a large chunk of my 2 month trip in Korea hiking and went to multiple baseball games. I met the most genuine, kind, happy, and curious (in a good way) people in those settings. Sharing food and drinks with total stangers and talking about our lives was just amazing.
😮wowwww I would love to do it some day
How did you find the hiking groups?
@@Erdf3542 even I wanna know
@magaliep34 1 group I just met while hiking. We chatted at one of the rest areas along the trail. The 2nd was through AirBnB activities. I booked a hiking tour for a couple dollars and we did a group hike and went to a few local eateries.
Its fake stuff
I'm the first guy in the video.
Thank you for making a good video Bro
Thanks for sharing your Honest Opinion
You're handsome
It is a very important topic! I think it’s also the same with stereotypes about European girls because not all of them are skinny, white-skinned and tall (because we all different and beautiful in our own❤) so that’s good to rise this topic and talk about it
European girls skinny?? LOL, white people are known to be obese compared to Asian women. Tall, yes.
As an Asian man I can tell you that we never once thought European women to be skinny. It's Asian women that are known to be thin then East African women coming in second.
@@Joseph-zd7kgAsian men aren't hot
I feel the standard for euros is more “tall white blonde” than skinny, but i agree. I am half japanese and half filipino. A lot of my cousins and aunts back home in the phillipines have always asked me if i had a white boyfriend and fawned over the prospect. A lot of my male cousins wanted to get with white women and put them on a pedestal over their own women.
Lighter skinned asians like japanese and koreans are also placed on pedestals. The reason my Filipino family fawns over me for being mixed is the same one why i’m not in contact with my Japanese family. They disowned my dad after he decided to marry my mom.
You can even see this in kdramas. I’ll give an example in the show business proposal. The male lead is a rich guy being pressured to get married. He doesnt want to get married so hes very blase on dates with fellow korean women. His father remarks that hes open minded and can date western women if thats his preference. Note how he said western (and when he said it - meant white). The dad would not have been accepting if the foreign woman his son wanted tk marry was black or brown or a darker skinnef asian. This act of placing certain races on a pedestal is fetishization in and of itself.
I loved hearing their opinions, and they mentioned an important fact that deviates from Hollywood media. In Korean dramas, specifically in rom-coms, men tend to be gentle and sensitive, which is different than in most Western media, which portrays men as tough and rough. This could be good, as men are more allowed to show emotions, and also create healthier "fantasies" than the" bad boy," so that women start looking for these more positive traits in relationships. However, it can also be used by some men as a way to lure people, and in reality they are not like that. Also it creates immense pressure for the men to be the "perfect boyfriend," which is unhealthy.
What do u meam they dont portray the bad boy image in korean media...look at boys over flowers and all the corporate mean ceo that gets tamed by the female lead ...
Kdrama is full of them .
Boys over flowers and shows similar to that send a very unhealthy message to young girls ....
Its says its ok to be mistreated and abused...just hold out a little longer and you can change him ....
When in reality once an abusive jerk most times always an abusive jerk ..
If u meet a guy and he is an ass ...he will probably always be an ass...
Listen to the red flags and RUN!!!!!
@@kimcole1093 true true. I meant more recent male leads, although most of the times it is the second male lead that’s the “green flag”. BOF is a drama that is hard to watch in recent times.
@Cinthia-ec6sk i found ut difficult to watch ...but domestic violence is a trigger for me ..
So alot of the workplace abuse really pisses me off
And having had a workplace bully for three years myself ....it really infuriates me.
And i cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would allow that ...i mean i put up with the emotional abuse cuz i needed to take care of my family ...
But had someone laid their hands on me they would have been in jail ...i will not ever tolerate that for sure ..
Sorry got off subject ...ugh
@@Cinthia-ec6skthey bleach
Plaid shirt is legit. Truth is people everywhere are eager to over-fantasize and have unrealistic expectations because they distract them from the more realistic and "less fun" sides of life- but they really have no idea how much they hurt themselves just to miss out on the simple beauty as well as complexities of *real* healthy relationship, and just life in General.
There are stereotypes and fetishes for both parties from each side in general, but in the end it all depends on the individual. People having a more positive opinion of Koreans is great. Nothing is wrong with opening your horizons unless it leads to unrealistic expectations and unhealthy treatment towards others/yourself.
If you're able to look at that person and not see anything but just "them" as a being, that's when you know you're on the right track.
Foreigner or not, Korean or not, you care about them and they care about you the same. That's what matters.
It's impossible to get there if you're looking for BTS in every Korean man.
Or Scarlett Johansson in every foreign woman.
And for those who think it's a thing that happens only with teens, I can assure you, as a Brazilian girl, it is not! I know women in their 30s who would go crazy with an oppa hahaha Man, even my mom is addicted to those k-dramas, and those beautiful actors, and culture, etc.
Lol you're insane
Any foreign woman in Korea leaves Korea in a month
It is boring as anything
Lol no we don't
Safe to said 60% for teenager and rest for grow adult women
@@shinnlee6742 i think i read a statistic that says majority are over 20 xD
@@shinnlee6742 80 percent teens but kpop has become boring now
I’ve never understood why people think it’s bad to be more attracted to certain races…. You can’t help attraction. Regardless if it’s for the “right” reasons.
However, it is ridiculous to have generalized views of how Korean men and women are based on entertainers or the media. Of course. The same as it would be for any race.
Thank You for this content. I appreciate your questions and everyone's response. I also appreciate how you interview people who speak Korean and English.
I really love these videos, just hearing different people's perspective and how they feel about things, it's nice to see but I also think it's just good to know. 🔥🔥
I totally agree. It's refreshing to see them showing such honesty and maturity in this topic.
I came to study to Korea and all the western girls literally just came to study abroad wanting a Korean boyfriend, and they all got the most random not good looking Korean boyfriends after like 1 week of arriving, often they can’t even communicate.
many good looking korean girls also date and marry not so good looking korean boy...its not always looking first if the boy has something girl wants
Korean boys summer!!!
Because Koreans bleach their skin and get eyelid surgery
Also 99% of western women in Korea interviews don't have local boyfriends
@@StyleswithCourtney keep coping
I love your videos
i was introduced to Korean men through BTS music videos, then some K dramas… but, honestly, i find Korean men interesting mostly because videos like this, where you can see real men (on the streets), talking, giving their perspectives on subjects, looking at their fashion styles, seeing couples (mixed or not) being in love; and i find them more attractive because of videos like this!
most of them (who are interviewed for videos like this) are so nice, kind, well spoken, polite, and good looking!
so, you ordinary Korean men- don’t think we compare you with idols, because we don’t! we appreciate you for you! 💛
They're millions in California
They're not impressive
I'm so glad south Korean men are keeping it real . Great video keep up the good work.
Let me add my grain of salt here. I started to learn Korean because I was impressed with the philosophy of life after having seen the movie spring summer autumn winter, and the series Black. For me this was a refreshing new way of looking at life and how to deal with life. While learning Korean (for the fun of learning a new language) I noticed how much
I like the Korean humour and autoderision. This is also when I discovered BTS. Next, I noticed how well spoken so many Koreans in interviews are, how they are so skilled in storytelling which is fascinating for my scientific facts-based brain.
After all this, I started noticing that, yes, the men are beautiful in their own way - but seen with my western eyes, which means I’m attracted to features that may not be seen as beautiful or fashionable in Korea itself. People tend to look at others through their own lens, with their own background… what is attractive to one may not be so to another.
In sum, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Thank you Korean culture and sensitivity, for helping me understand the world around me.
Koreans aren't hot
No
YES JERRY CALL IT OUT. THEY NEED TO HEAR THISSS
I really liked the two guys with the blue and pink shirts. They made great points and explained their opinions very well!
This is such a great topic! I find Korean men attractive but I don't fetishize them. There's a big difference. A couple of years ago I watched this movie in 08, 09 called Ninja assassin and I fell in love with the main character. He was one of the most beautiful men I've ever seen and I had no idea he was Korean. I see the beauty in all people and I've been like that since I was a child. That's why I don't discriminate, I like everybody lol but there are people that have this obsession with certain groups of people because of how they look and they become obsessed and that's where things get weird.
I don't know why they made a big deal out of it. The number of Koreaboo is only a minority, 99% of the foreigners in Korea are normal, only 1% are koreaboo. Yeah I don't understand why it's a big deal.
@@CoolNumber1 I think your calculation is wrong. Due to kdrama and kpop being very trendy, obviously it's going to lead to things such as koreaboos. There's also one for Japan. Maybe because of their films and anime, it still happens today too. I guess that's why it's such a big deal but it can be weird.
@@horseface3725 Korean men are stronger than Koreaboo. It's different. However, if the Koreaboo is a man, then yeah rape could happen.
Is the main lead named Rain, and did he have long hair? And was the female lead a black woman? If so, I LOVEEEEE that movie so much and it made me feel seen even though there was no romance really between the two.
@@Gracie-gh8uw yes that's the one 😌
I didn't have strong feelings about Asian men in general. I loved martial arts movies...but one day, I was on Netflix casting about for something different to watch. I found "Romance Is A Bonus Book." What surprised me was how handsome, sensual and kind the male characters. It startled me because I had not thought that way before. Then I watched a bunch of other Kdramas. By "Startup," I was hooked. Sure not all Korean men are Hyun Bin or Dennis L, just like not all American men are Ryan Reynolds, Pitt etc...but I will say that Korean men have amazing physiques
What's your ethnicity?
I'm gonna watch it soon
@microwaveeee of course, media can and influences one's perception of people. It happens every day of our lives and has been going on for a very long time now. People don't have an issue when white people are depicted as desirable, but have issues when POC are. You can't tell me white media has not made Asian men the least desirable men. Even I fell into that for a period of my life when I was younger. Their are good and beautiful Asian men just like any other race.
Lol their bodies are bad
They're built like girls
23 years ago when in Japan with my students I admired the male teachers for their sensitivity and humble personality. A young teacher sang a love song to me; he was married with children but there was no premise of romance between us, it was simply a sweet gesture on his part. I also admired the people that wore masks in order to keep their germs to themselves. This simple show of respect, along with the deep bows that I received because of my advanced age really resonated with me. The Asian community is all about the greater good, and that sets them apart from other cultures including my own.
7:18 I love that he’s saying this while also being super handsome. Humble King.😂
Are you a non east asian? Honestly, I'm east asian and I find him the most average out of all the guys interviewed. Hardly can be described as handsome, charmingly straightforward and honest yes. We asians always say western and asian aesthetics are very different, esp the way western man view some asian women and deem them attractive. Those they see as attractive who be deemed as ugly by us (lack of a 3D feel)
@@ymhktravel I am not a western person ..But I also share similar opinion to you..
But for western people they want to look for totally different features or opposite features than them in other races..
@@ymhktravel Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@@ymhktravel I agree with you. He was not a bad looking guy but, out of this group, the most average looking and I’m western. He had a good personality though and I appreciate he wanted to just be himself.
Lol handsome
This is a interesting topic, since the popularity of kpop increased many girls in my country are obsessed with Korean features and looks, they go so far as to say a person looks like Korean if they have monolid eyes, its weird and disrespectful to say the least, appreciating a culture and its people is ok but associating a whole country and its population to a entertainment medium is not ok, regular Korean people are not kpop stars or kdrama stars, they are real people with real emotions like us, hope people understand this.
K-pop promotes the fetishizing of the idols, and by extension, of other Koreans..so what else could we expect 💀
Don't blame BTS for this 😂
@@shugadaddy4841 why not? They are part of the industry that promotes this problem. They aren't the only ones to blame, but they do have some
@@shugadaddy4841 No, but they are in THAT industry and therefore are a part of it and its POISON!!!
Even kpop and kdrama stars are not always the person they protray on screen. They have flaws, too. They make mistakes, maybe treat their significant other badly or have other issues.
You have to know that it has been refreshing learning about Korea through the K dramas, BTS, and hearing the language. My daughter has been to Korea , now speaks Korean , and is dating someone from Korea here in the UK. I personally love hearing the language. Come and visit London you’ll have a blast.💜🇬🇧🇯🇲🏴
The conversation that needed to happen
Everything apart,i love the way the guy in check shirt spoke...so gentle way of speaking 😊😊
2 random observations:
The guy in checked shirt sounds so much like text-to-soeech generator when he speaks English. I have massive respect for him learning English. My observation is more a comment on how important intonation is in a language. I am currently trying to learn Korean and pronunciation and intonation is impossible to learn from a book.
Second observation. I find it so interesting how many foreigners who learn english end up using the word "like" as a filler word. I remember in the early 2000s when it becwme popular and common, especially in teen girls, and there was a lot of criticism. In fact there is still criticism, especially when the word "like" is overused. It can be very grating when it is every other word. Anyway i just find it interesting that the word "like" seems to transcend cultures and languages when English is being spoken. I wonder if there is a neurological reason which is linked to how human brains work?
As a GEN-X African American female so let me just say the reason why I am loving their looks is because I grew up with only Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan as heartthrob Asian representatives in Movies. Now that we have this thing called SUBTITLES, more and more non English TV and Movies are at our disposal. I only took Spanish in school, not an Asian language available to me. Since becoming a BLINK and ARMY I have begun to learn Hangul but at my age, its not as easy as when I was younger. I've also always had mono/hooded lids so I saw someone with my eyes so that attracted me as well. Not quite sure why they assume BTS is the beauty standard... they WERENT and ARENT, except for Jin or V. If you notice, we fall in love with J-hope, RM and little Jimin who are not the Beauty Standard. None of the men you interviewed were unattractive so their perspective of their own value/worth is skewed by what they think we want or expect.
There wasn't many Asian Guys from Elementary to Jr High School
The first Asian I found attractive to look at
He was Vietamese bi-lingual or multilingual yet his Height he wasn't above 5ft.1inch yet
I seen him in jr high.
Elementary I do not recall any Asians yet I didn't know much about them
So I thought Asians r
Only 1.chinese _Vietamese 2_ 3Japanesw _ Taiwanese
Then I learned about Marshallese Asians islander in high school and
I really found them beautiful the men and their women youngwomen r very beautiful and I defended them against mean nonsense misbehaving persons
So I could get closer to them though I was very nervous
Yet they all very kind
And yes they have their bad boys player men.
also i found very interesting #MarshalleseIslanders with their different approaches in Flirting their culture their Beautiful language nDancing,Clothes,Accessories Fashion,Thierry Silky shiny strong bouncing Noir Jet Hair ,and eyes and voices.
I ponder what they Bern cooking in the kitchen.
at this point you are projecting. You are speaking purely from your own experience, devaluing there's and calling there experience and logic of it all skewed which is sad to see and illogical (There the ones who are Koreans and Men IRL). The majority of people DO in fact use the media as a reference to how they want there "future Korean boyfriends" to act and be. They used BTS as an example of what the standard of beauty is not that they are the only standard of beauty for Korean men you missed the point entirely. No one is attacking ARMY relax. No one said you sexualize Korean men. Just because you don't see it in your personal lives doesn't mean its not there. Korean culture is booming so it only makes sense that people are sexualizing them its cause and effect. Its just really sad that Korean men cant express themselves without receiving backlash but when women do it all of a sudden everyone agrees with there experience. Men can be sexualized and it is just as creepy and distorted I hope you know that as well.
@@BrownSugarNails you are too emotional and all over the place. calm down
@@tosinojo7310 thats the worst comeback in a debate ive ever seen. Saying im emotional without anything to back you up isnt proving or debunking anything but admitting that im clearly right. You can tell me to calm down all you want but can you say im wrong? Im waiting. Im a passionate person if that makes u upset well I apologize for your insecurities but that has nothing to do with the conversation and its very irrelevant. Unless you have something valuable to add i would just not respond.
@@tosinojo7310 to add id like you to elaborate what you mean by all over the place. I said what i said very clearly.
Just brilliant how you got all those lovely guys being totally honest. Thank you.
I don’t think it’s a fetish but more so people really enjoying and respecting Korean culture, food, entertainment, music etc. My love for Asians and their culture food etc started at 7 years old. I was and still am a huge fan of martial arts and the martial arts movies. As I got older I grew a love for the food, languages, culture, history, music etc through watching those movies and shows. There’s a lot to love about parts of Asia and the people far beyond what the men and women look like. A lot of their values and way of living is something to take notes on. So I believe it’s bigger than just foreign woman fantasizing over the men.
Awww...this is cute. (Gurl, get real. It's a fetish.)
@@malikaudauky2889 lmao fr, it's best to just admit it
While there are people like us who truly just enjoy their culture, music etc and we find their common features to be attractive, there are Koreaboos who go around hugging random Korean men while calling them 'oppa', on the street without their consent 🤪
@@hazelmint6671 i highly doubt that happens
Half of u all don't even know that Asia is not just Korea , China and Japan
I really like historical Asian costume dramas. Because of that, I got a BTS video in my u-tube feed. I started watching a lot of their videos/listening to their music. I learned more about Korea because of it. I branched out to more modern Asian dramas. I watch things from many Asian countries, not just Korea. I like the fantasy created of a more gentle caring relationship, more innocence depicted. The world now can be quite harsh and this provides an escape. Sometimes though, it can create problems when you think "I wish my husband/boyfriend was more like that!!" But like romance novels (which I have never read or been into) this is a story, not necessarily real life although some may posess these qualities. We are all individuals and there is good and bad in all people and cultures. As far as age reference, I am a 68 year old white great grandma from the US.
7:09 I love this guy he cracked me up😂😂 Amazing energy 👏👏
Thank you for this interesting video :) I think it's important to say that media in general (especially when it comes to TV-Shows) is always a kind of filter of a country. You cannot learn about a culture or know how people are through TV-Shows. Also people in general are individuals no matter in what country they live. Of course they were socialized through the culture they live in but there are bad people and good people in every country. And by the way, being polite doesn't automatically mean someone is nice ;) I think it's important to get to know one another and not have expectations because watching a K-Drama etc. Since K-Dramas and K-Pop is mainly consumed by Teenagers I think it's important that adults (parents, teachers etc.) educate about the risk of fetishism or idealizing of people of certain cultures. Being interested in other cultures, wanting to learn about them and the people is a good thing in my opinion. It can help going against certain prejudices and racisms or other discriminations. I for instance am very interested in how asian countries in general are dealing with the topic of disability. For instance in Korea Autism seems to be seen as a disability while in the US and in European countries it's part of Neurodiversity. How does Korea as a country deal with people who are blind, deaf or have Down-Syndrome? Maybe you could take some interviews about that?
Sending good vibes :D
really like your interviews. Your style and demeanor are great, and you can guide the interviewees to respond well. hope to see more of your work.
all the guys saying “look at me, i’m not handsome” are in fact, handsome lolll but yeah i agree with them, not all Korean men are handsome and it’s just like that everywhere in the world hahaha! also, me personally, i wouldn’t feel comfortable calling anybody “oppa”😭😭😭idk i just cant do it
And still, many women even say they like to collect words like "noona" from their favorite idols. Even if it's not a real problem for most people, I still find it extremely weird 😵💫
@@adrianrm07 yeah i don’t say any of those cuz we don’t have anything similar in America…so i feel weird about it!
Becos you have low standards.
Skin bleachers
It didn’t really help that the interviewed guys were all quite attractive 😂
they look like regular people
@@bangtanbangtan8338 still looked very good.
Nah all of them look mid and pale
@@trainerrosa695 damn😂😂
@@trainerrosa695 But I heard that that is how Korea is. They think looking “chalky white” is beautiful. Ppl who are tanned is not considered attractive. They are into that “perfect”look. I also heard that how one looks is an extreme “push” in Korea. Everybody /anybody walking down the street must look like a model.
I love the brown shirt and black shades guy!! His confidence in English is so infectious and his thoughts are good too. Also, he still seems gentle for me 😅👍
I'm not into kpop(been a blink but I grew out of it). I've been watching kdramas since I was in middle school(not so much anymore) Honesly at the time I didn't know where is Korea.
but one thing that I really like about Korea is their tv shows. Korean humor just clicks with me. As well the food seems to be tasty and the night life, transportation and fun activities to do. And the automatization and robotization of the city.
That's why I want to visit Korea. Not for the men. They're only a added bonus.
Was literally talking to a friend about this yesterday🥲🥲 It is mainly teenage girls though. We can't deny that many Korean men are attractive but the "fetish/oppa movement" is so toxic...
What's funny is that I had a thing for Korean men from when I was in high school back in 2004. I wasn't watching k-drama and my only kpop group I knew of was Shinhwa and I knew one song of theirs, lol. I grew up in a predominantly Asian area and I just found Asian men attractive in general. I still have a thing for Korean men 15 years later, lol.
Korean men in the higher status will always prefer korean women since the shared culture allows for better matches
They should try dating/marrying other races of women.
@@troigcyusa shared culture is better when it comes to relationships since the korean men and women mesh better
@@marklechadores5574tell that to asian women who fetishize white men
Hats off to the guy in checker shirt. Loved the way how politely and in a very simple way he's stating the facts. Totally loved it.
Mr. Anchor the way you speak and your smile is really beautiful. All the very best
I'm 23 and I've always had a soft spot for Asian culture or Asian actors ever since I can remember. I remember clearly whenever there was Asian character in a TV show or movie I liked them automatically and it goes 10 years back to things like Maze Runner or Tomorrow when the war began. Then I had *no idea* what k-pop was. Many people discovered it at age of 12 and are now over it meanwhile my 12 y.o. self didn't know such thing even existed. I just admired the culture itself. Now whenever I explain to people that I started listening to k-pop *because* of liking Asians, and *not* the other way around, they are so shocked 😄😅
I really turned my expectations down when I went to Korea, because of course I know that the image portrayed in the media can not be for real, but then I was even more surprised that the people are actually really really beautiful and kind, both woman and men. I think they are a little too humble ㅋㅋ
This was in my recommendation I'm glad i watched this i learned something
The guy who was being interviewed at 4:55 has a similar mindset to me when it comes to dating. We intentionally try not to be extra nice and stuff because we want to be liked for ourselves more generally.
6:25 I love his vibes 😂😂😂
Not our fault they are attractive. Is called preferences. The majority can speak more than 2 sentences and dress well and have manners. It doesn’t mean the personality is all the same and rainbows and flowera BUT they have the dating game on point. They handle themselves well so the first attraction is there, then actually having a relationship is another discussion 🤷🏻♀️
Such a good video for Educating people !!!!
I really like how these guys are so real. I just like the guy in the burn orange T-shirt 😂 for me I’m not romantic, I am not gentle.😂
Look at me, I am not a K-pops I’m not K-drama 😂 He is so real and it is so funny the way he says it🤣😂🤣
I love your videos. Just started watching them today and I’ve watched 4 of them already. I had to subscribe to your channel. I love videos. You are doing a fantastic job, keep it up!
I’m a West African and I live in Dallas TX. I’m very proud of you young man 👍🏽👍🏽
4:44 hhahaa 😂😂😂😂😂 talks like Japanesse
The guy in the dark blue T shirt claiming he wasn't handsome & nice, but it is clear he is both & modest, aswell.
I have always been into Asian men and different men from many cultural backgrounds, however I will say this. Kpop introduced me to their music in the best way possible and with a combination of Kpop and Kdrama this introduced me to their culture more in terms of the food, the scenery, the language. I don’t hold everyone to a unreachable standard as like the one gentleman’s opinion stated everyone is different, however I do believe there are some core values that are standard in Korean Men regardless if they are an Idol/actor or not. They have a tradition that American men don’t necessarily have that I find very attractive. There is a courtship that I see in the Korean Culture that I truly appreciate. Again we would be naive to think that all Korean Men are perfect base off the Idol/Actor Fantasy.
They aren't hot
@@baddie21358 who are you referencing? All Asian men? And if that is how you feel that’s your opinion.
@@StayDani82 yes 95% of them
Your reasoning is why I prefer foreign women, western culture is pretty degenerate imo
@@jayc342009 May you pls elaborate. You like foreign women because the seek more courtship?
Same with western women. We don't sleep around. Not all white women have one night stands. We also want to be loved, appreciated or eventually get married. 😊
But white women dont seem to be interested in other races than white men tho.
Compared to korean women western women sleep arounda lot more.
@이효민 I don't know your ressources but why do you even compare Korean women to western women? My point is that a lot of Korean men see western women as sex objects. No one deserves to be treated like that just because sex is not a taboo in the western culture.
@@Daisy_Dobby because for korean men perspective if western women come and are easier to sleep with than the korean women then they will automatically have that thoughtsbout western women. That they are easy
@@Daisy_Dobbyi believe in you. don't listen to her. I've met various people while traveling around the world, but it's just the same everywhere.
Lol look at them smiling they too excited 😂😂
I have traveled to Korea multiple times. It is true that there is an increase desire for Korean men. Probably about 10 years ago, you would see more white men with local ladies, but NOW I saw so many Korean guys with foreign girls on a night out.
Not at all
Look at numbers
23% of Korean women
5% Korean men
2022 statistics marrying out
I was in Korea a month ago
Not one foreign woman was with a Korean man
I've watched interviews and foreign women are always shaky and bored in all the interviews.
@@LisaCutie409 where are you getting your statistics? According to Korea times, of the 16, 700 international marriages 12,000 were Korean husbands with a foreign wife. Korean women with a foreign husband only about 4,700. Where did you get 23% or 5% from? Granted with the foreign brides most of them were from Vietnam, China, or Thailand. It still stands to show that they are FOREIGN. Foreign women don’t always equate western.
@@LisaCutie409 the number of marriages overall has been on decline though whether it be between Koreans or Korean and foreigners. Many aren’t seeing marriage or having children as essential.
@@StyleswithCourtney lmao i live in Korea
Far more Euro women with Korean men than the opposite
keep crying
i really like to travel and im planning to go to korea next year.
i first got into the music, but i really like the culture as well. i hope i can come to korea next year
Great discussion. I think the media in general is an issue of romanticizing groups of people, who are well just peoplw
A lot of these guys are good looking.
My best friend growing up is Korean. I've always had an attraction to Korean people. Recently we met up (we're in our 30s now) after his divorce.. we were joking about this new Korean fetish wave, so he's divorcing the perfect time 🤣
that’s hilarious😂😂😂
@@tyliyahchambers7031 lol I was trying to make him laugh since he was pretty devastated.. but he's definitely out living his best, sexy well-off Korean man life right now 🥰
@@DanielleBaylor as he shoulddddd🤣
Most Koreans look the same
Also watch out
They are colorist
@@tyliyahchambers7031they don't like blacks
Triceps!!😂
Yes, I so agree with those young men. However, they are are just so cute. Leaning about the true culture of Korean people is important and what I have found out, is very interesting. I do love finding out about different cultures and have no delusion of them. I wish I could visit South Korea as it is so beautiful from the pictures I have seen.
i’m sorry but the interviewer asked the same question throughout this whole video and the guests just described the same answer in different ways lol. Also when he asked the guy why is isn’t romantic and gentle… that’s such a weird question but he answered so well. Always be yourself 💙
I’m a black American female and I am interested in Korean culture and have been to Korea a few times. I do watch kdramas but I don’t fetish over Korean men, I don’t listen to BTS and I don’t have Netflix. This is all generalized stereotypes lol
Edit: I did date a Korean man while there but it sort of just happened. I would not go there looking for anyone just because of something I saw on a drama 😂 Koreans have different personalities like anywhere else, stereotypes won’t go away but I think some people have to experience for themselves to understand that people from any culture or group aren’t all the same.
I think this shows that when people remain ignorant of each others culture it does put up barriers, and whilst there is always going to be good bad or neutral things about all cultures unless you at least try to get to know something about each other those barriers are never coming down.
The hope is that people take the best of each culture and it helps make all cultures improve.....but a certain degree of keeping the culture is also good, we only have to look at the americanisation of so much of the world to know it has almost eradicated so many of the individual qualities that used to make travel interesting and exciting but it's like there seems to be a need for everything to be turned into an homogenous blob a bit like when you have play doh and all the colours get mixed up until it's just grey and you cannot make anything much with it anymore.
I don't know if this is coincidence or not but I agree with some comments that all of the guys interviewed here was pretty good looking. Especially the checkered-pattern one who is fluent in English. I don't know, he's seem to have a mysterious aura......or what should I call it, "alluring"?
Love these street interviews. It's really growing my interest in Korea.
Most people want to be desired bottom line, weather it’s a little fetishization or not. Asian men being more desired these days is much better than them not being desired at all. So who cares if these ladies are having a little fetish a lot of them end up learning a lot about the culture so at the end of the day it turns into a genuine interest along with some fetish energy too lol 😂 so what!! Most men fetishize women with large you know what and so on and so on and no body blinks an eye about that. Leave women and girls alone, let us have our fantasies in peace.
facts
They're not desired
@@baddie21358 that’s your opinion which doesn’t matter much in this world 😂😂
The difference is men are vilified for having preferences which is unfair
5:11 LET'S GOOO GYM OPPA 💪😅👍
I would love to know some background information of the interviewees before each interview, just to see what chapter in life they are and have a better idea where their answers might come from. I would appreciate that a lot! Even if it just their age and profession.
I don't care to get mad on their behalf if they themselves don't care about being fetishized tbh, it's their decision how they feel about it. I see a lot of kpop/kdrama stans come for women that travel to SK to date these men calling it fetishization but we shouldn't really feel the need to speak for them if they didn't ask lol
Look how well kept and well dressed these guys are. That is why women are attracted to them. They simply take care ro look good at most times! That is what I find attractive about the Korean culture as a whole. The fact that they are all great looking helps!
LOL why 0:05 blue shirt 🤣🤣 (wonho) is the most replayed. he seen to be like called oppa, can you tell :)
Nice topic
I don't think there's as much stereotyping and fetishizing going on as Korean people think. Any country's entertainment is always influenced in some way by the realities of their culture so that makes foreigners curious as to how much of what they're seeing is true to life and how much is just tv, and when you're a foreigner, I think that's a really fair question. You can't know about what you can't see or experience in-person, so that leads you to ask questions to those who do know. But so many Koreans seem predisposed to thinking that all foreigners foolishly stereotype or fetishize them that they don't always listen when you try to ask questions and write you off as just being too immature and ignorant to tell fiction from reality. Like I'm over here trying to ask real cultural questions, but just bc I mentioned that it was a kdrama that I saw _______ in, they imediately stop hearing me and just start lecturing me on how tv isn't reality. It's really quite annoying bc they're upset about being wrongly judged but they don't realize how THEY are wrongly judging you when you aren't even wrongly judging them like they think you are. Idek at this point how many ridiculous comments I've received from Koreans suggesting that I'm incompetent, immature, unable to tell Asians apart, what I am and am not familiar with or some other negative thing simply bc they have stereotyped all foreigners in these ways. And the Korean TH-camrs are the worst about this. The level of condescension and treating us all like idiots is really mind-blowing. I've also been fetishized by Korean guys for my looks. Literally ALL of the things they complain that they think foreigners do to them (but that most foreigners aren't actually doing) they are doing those exact same things to foreigners. Even this video kind of proves that point. These guys all attribute foreign girls ideas of Korea and Korean men to kpop, kdramas, and BTS, not at all supposing that many of us have interests in and certain views of Korea for countless other reasons. I've also had several Korean guys ask me as soon as say hi "So why do you wanna learn Korean? Kpop? Lol. BTS?" Korean guys have constantly made me feel like I'm not me, I'm just what they stereotype foreigners as.
Koreans aren't hot
maybe we're all daydreaming about korean men because kdramas portray the men we would like to have: gentlemen - the opposite of the kind of men we see in real life. they say we have crazy expectations but are good, honest, caring men unrealistic? how sad! also: the guys that said they aren't attractive ARE attractive!
There is gentlemen and then there is simp 💀
Good, kind and honest are qualities everyone should look for and expect in a partner. But then there are those that look for a loyal puppy dog! (Both men and women) and I think kdramas portray that last one 💀 and that's the unrealistic (and unhealthy) part
@@auricia201 That's true, I always feel bad for the second lead guy who gets eliminated by the FL even though he's totally head over heels for her (usually) 😢😭
@@hazelmint6671 why do dramas always make love triangles 🤦🏻♀️ I hate it
I like their honesty AND humbleness.
Very interesting interview, thank you all !)
I think this happens to some extent, mostly amongst younger people. I feel like is the same as 20 years ago with the fantasy of Japan; its popularity was huge because of anime and pop culture and some just wanted to go and live that fantasy.
I agree, it still happens today and they also have their own term like koreaboos. Yet I forgot its name.
@@horseface3725 for Japan, it's "Weeb"
@@lilliancastillo8579 20 years ago it was just geeks. Being a geek now is much more normal so words like otaku, weeb or koreaboo were created. (Otaku was always there, but not until recently worldwide)
In the case of animation, it is the worst culture that only reinforces stereotypes that are harmful to Asians.
Agreed
Interesting video, keep up with the good work!
I love it I absolutely love it.