Hey Shok, I think the main reason for wanting to know what the enemy did wrong is more about what they needed to have done to play better. Since usually we are the players who you are facing up against. Like if we were the katarina, what were we supposed to do to win, if that makes sense. Great vid regardless!
@@ShokLeague I feel like you do a really, really good job already. I like the focus you currently have personally, and I think it is the better mentality :) And honestly, you pointed out many mistakes people made this game (top roams, bot disrespecting timers, jayce tp to defend tower, not going for baron) and I really like that you made an effort to emphasize that these things really make a huge difference.
Absolutely love the point at the end about what tradeoffs and strengths a champ might have at different levels of play. I feel like so much of the time people treat it as super black and white and its really easy to not think about what advantages you might have in a game state at a given elo. Really cool perspective.
Shok, you make a complicated game comprehensible. Your videos, having a significant level of content, stay focused on self-improvement with very little digression. Thank you, Shok.
Your thumbnails are cool but small suggestion would be to make which series its for a bit more obvious (i.e. high elo or unranked to master). I know its in the title but i often look at mainly thumbnails and the start of a title when selecting videos
Hey Shok, great video as always! Do you think Ryze is best used to counter melee mids or is it still playable against something that out ranges you so long as you have a jungler that can gank or invade with you?
Still playable against longer range, even if you play a tough matchup like Ori if you have Lee + Naut or something it'll be hard for her to pressure you properly. Obviously its better vs short range or if you win the 1v1 but you can make it work
Thanks man! This guide makes me start playing ryze and he's kinda fun, I'm also finding I'm dying with ryze a lot less than I would with other champs early on so I might be on to something with a potential main! I instantly subbed with bell on so I don't miss anything from ya since if it's content like this it should really help me improve (also... you're cute AF, that's also worth subbing for :p)
hey shok, what do you think of the seraphs rush build ? cause i feel like roa trakes too long to have impact so you dont have much early game agen,cy and it lacks AH...
Thanks a lot for this video, and impressive and insightful commentary as always. I mentioned I hoped to see games where things didn't go smoothly early on, and you delivered :P This felt like a very relatable game. I also want to say that I really like that you aren't playing cheesy or relying on superior mechanics even though you are against much lower ranked people, you are just playing good league of legends. Thank you. Can you eloborate a bit on what you think about Jayce going mid at around 13:30? Clearly he is grouping for dragon, and he doesn't have TP ready. Do I understand you correctly that the right play in solo queue is to just ignore the 2nd dragon and catch wave and keep up farm instead?
Have some rougher games coming up! And yes, ideally Jayce should push top wave all the way to the enemy T2 tower and then come down to drag. It's too early in the game to be sacrificing lots of waves top for a relatively unimportant dragon, so if he can't get the wave into the enemy T2 tower then he should just stay top (and take T2 if aatrox runs to dragon)
Playing against myself is too true. I keep missing CS while trading or trying to freeze the wave. I am getting better at CSing while trading. I learned to think of it as adding trades to my CSing and not CSing while getting trades off. The mindset helps me prioritize properly.
if im ahead in the midgame should i be focused on provoking fights, should i farm everything i can and fight anyone contesting my farm, or should i just wait for enemys to make a mistake? Thanks
You first farm and shove waves into the towers. If the team decide to fight for an objective you have to decide if it's worth join the fight or not because if you have a bounty is risk to join a losing teamfight so it's always better to stay alive and do other things
Pretty much what the reply already said, try shove sidewaves as far as you can and then use the prio to accelerate yourself (camps, roaming to mid, hitting tower etc) and make sure you are at all the objective fights
@@godsfighter1367 Something with a dash is quite good e.g. Ahri, LeBlanc, Fizz, Akali, Zed etc. Or something that has fairly good inbuilt safety e.g. Phase rush Orianna, I'll try make a one trick tier list eventually
It would be interesting to see a game that goes terribly wrong, such as your adc/support are fighting, someone is going afk or inting. I know those games are still mostly winnable for someone of your elo, but it would be nice to see how your thought process changes to accommodate for something like this happening in your game
ther is something can do batter but he still win this is good 5:52 ryze ult can get vision so u wont die here 12:00 double kill angle and get passive also with flash weq but u can see Shok is not really good at Ryze so he use the max dmg "flash wqeq " and cant get the passive speed to get away from Atrox
A nice vid could be carrying while behind, like how to capitalize on mistakes and get back into control of the game. ALSO would love some ori games in low elo, she is so fun for me. Would love to see you pilot her in low elo.
Happy one week (seven whole rotations) until AP seraphs kog'maw mid friends ! looking forward to vommiting everywhere the second i see the notification
yea at lvl 2-3 ill get instantly ganked from enemy jgle;r get forced to pop flash than im dead and kat or the other guy have a lead either by my death or flash graves comes, sure when ur jgler is human that happens, i get enemy jgler evne dive me when i do that also, so i have nightmares in soloo NA cue. but yes thats the idea
I don't think it is that important to go out of your way to point out what the enemy is doing wrong. IMO Commentating about what not to do is less efficient for learning than your current style of commentary. I think a viewer that aligns their habbits and learns from your tips will improve faster than if they were told their most obvious mistake. Trying to mimic a challenger helps to avoid mistakes passively as well as helping to improve using challenger knowledge. Serious thanks for being so dedicated to your informative videos. I am not playing the game atm due to not wanting to support vanguard's potential invasion of privacy, but watching your videos lets me enjoy the game just as much as if I were still playing. Cheers
Bronze-Gold is just a salad fiesta of smurfs, new players, one tricks, for fun, try hards, bad players, and people who genuinely don't care. Draw your four and hope you didn't get the Teemo/Senna/Lux player.
Bro your early phase is played badly. As ryze you should just perma poke katarina in early game consider playing with comet, scorch combo or even first strike. Then you rush archangel to increase your lead. As ryze main I can assure you that ryze has enough power to poke those assasins out escpecially when they are playing fucking dark seal first item and no second wind. Also what ranks are u playing against bcs they seems like silvers or smth.
This is gold, it's called unranked to master for a reason. Comet/First strike are good for early game but they make teamfighting so difficult, I don't think it's good on Ryze unless it's the difference between getting prio over your lane or not. Archangel rush is not bad for soloq I think, ROA hp is very useful vs assassins though.
@@ShokLeague If those are golds all is clear now. You have to present stable builds for these fellas, you can try more agressive playstyle as ryze tho. GL
Hey Shok, I think the main reason for wanting to know what the enemy did wrong is more about what they needed to have done to play better. Since usually we are the players who you are facing up against. Like if we were the katarina, what were we supposed to do to win, if that makes sense. Great vid regardless!
I'll try talk about it more but there's already so much to talk about :/
@@ShokLeague I feel like you do a really, really good job already. I like the focus you currently have personally, and I think it is the better mentality :) And honestly, you pointed out many mistakes people made this game (top roams, bot disrespecting timers, jayce tp to defend tower, not going for baron) and I really like that you made an effort to emphasize that these things really make a huge difference.
@@ShokLeaguethe game is so full of stuff
Off topic, what’s that aatrox skin?
@@alyas1998 DRX
Absolutely love the point at the end about what tradeoffs and strengths a champ might have at different levels of play. I feel like so much of the time people treat it as super black and white and its really easy to not think about what advantages you might have in a game state at a given elo. Really cool perspective.
Glad it didn't just sound like shok rambling hahah
it's so nice to saying all your thoughts loudly. pretty useful videos
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Shok, you make a complicated game comprehensible. Your videos, having a significant level of content, stay focused on self-improvement with very little digression. Thank you, Shok.
“I need to buy magic resist of some kind… so i’m just gunna buy mejais” hahaha CHAD
Recently picked up ryze, this guide is perfectly timed!!! Your other guide was great
Ryze game?? Man we eating good today. It’s so easy to see mistakes when a good player is pointing them out.
U have no idea how much is this helpful ,please keep it up and thank you so much
Your thumbnails are cool but small suggestion would be to make which series its for a bit more obvious (i.e. high elo or unranked to master). I know its in the title but i often look at mainly thumbnails and the start of a title when selecting videos
Great commentary! No way anyone can fit this much information while they're playing at the same time
Hey Shok, great video as always! Do you think Ryze is best used to counter melee mids or is it still playable against something that out ranges you so long as you have a jungler that can gank or invade with you?
Still playable against longer range, even if you play a tough matchup like Ori if you have Lee + Naut or something it'll be hard for her to pressure you properly. Obviously its better vs short range or if you win the 1v1 but you can make it work
Thanks man! This guide makes me start playing ryze and he's kinda fun, I'm also finding I'm dying with ryze a lot less than I would with other champs early on so I might be on to something with a potential main! I instantly subbed with bell on so I don't miss anything from ya since if it's content like this it should really help me improve (also... you're cute AF, that's also worth subbing for :p)
Hahhah thank you bro
hey shok, what do you think of the seraphs rush build ? cause i feel like roa trakes too long to have impact so you dont have much early game agen,cy and it lacks AH...
I think it's solid, especially if you really need some other 2nd item like a zhonya or something
Love playing mages and you are the perfect player to watch thanks for the all the videos they are super helpful ❤
Thanks a lot for this video, and impressive and insightful commentary as always. I mentioned I hoped to see games where things didn't go smoothly early on, and you delivered :P This felt like a very relatable game. I also want to say that I really like that you aren't playing cheesy or relying on superior mechanics even though you are against much lower ranked people, you are just playing good league of legends. Thank you.
Can you eloborate a bit on what you think about Jayce going mid at around 13:30? Clearly he is grouping for dragon, and he doesn't have TP ready. Do I understand you correctly that the right play in solo queue is to just ignore the 2nd dragon and catch wave and keep up farm instead?
Have some rougher games coming up! And yes, ideally Jayce should push top wave all the way to the enemy T2 tower and then come down to drag. It's too early in the game to be sacrificing lots of waves top for a relatively unimportant dragon, so if he can't get the wave into the enemy T2 tower then he should just stay top (and take T2 if aatrox runs to dragon)
@@ShokLeague Thanks for the insights!
Would you ever R back to lane? Especially if it would prevent you from missing a cannon like at 6:25?
You can do, but it's a very long cooldown so I wouldn't do it unless I'm going to miss maybe 2 waves for it
Hello Mr Shok, hoping for a Neeko gameplay in this series, loved the streams lately.
Playing against myself is too true. I keep missing CS while trading or trying to freeze the wave. I am getting better at CSing while trading. I learned to think of it as adding trades to my CSing and not CSing while getting trades off. The mindset helps me prioritize properly.
thx for ryze boss! is a galio video possible?
WE SHALL SEE
just love the series
if im ahead in the midgame should i be focused on provoking fights, should i farm everything i can and fight anyone contesting my farm, or should i just wait for enemys to make a mistake? Thanks
You first farm and shove waves into the towers. If the team decide to fight for an objective you have to decide if it's worth join the fight or not because if you have a bounty is risk to join a losing teamfight so it's always better to stay alive and do other things
Pretty much what the reply already said, try shove sidewaves as far as you can and then use the prio to accelerate yourself (camps, roaming to mid, hitting tower etc) and make sure you are at all the objective fights
Bruh the 50% slow on W makes himn so much stronger. I can finally play Blue boy again in ranked.
SO INFORMATIONAL MAN
Hey Shok can you maybe make a vid focused on roaming?
I have 2 guides on this already: a roaming guide and a priority usage guide
Is ryze a good one trick similar to azit since he can do everything compared to other mid laners? Champs like Katarina are too feast or famine
He kinda struggles in games with too much CC or range, imo not the best one trick but you can make him work
Thanks for the reply, which other mid laners would you say are the best to one tricks in terms of blind pick ability and stability in the meta's
@@godsfighter1367 Something with a dash is quite good e.g. Ahri, LeBlanc, Fizz, Akali, Zed etc. Or something that has fairly good inbuilt safety e.g. Phase rush Orianna, I'll try make a one trick tier list eventually
@@ShokLeague that would be very helpful. Thank you for all the educational content. You really revived my passion to get better at the game
hey shok disable fullscreen optimizations from the short cut to fix FPS drop
Plz play viktor im struggling in my low elo games not poking enough in lanes and feel like im too afk in lane
It would be interesting to see a game that goes terribly wrong, such as your adc/support are fighting, someone is going afk or inting. I know those games are still mostly winnable for someone of your elo, but it would be nice to see how your thought process changes to accommodate for something like this happening in your game
I do have a pretty rough Orianna game coming up
@@ShokLeague Sorry to hear about the game experience, but on the bright side it will be very valuable for your viewers :)
2:00 perfect cs
Thanks for the vid!
ther is something can do batter but he still win
this is good
5:52 ryze ult can get vision so u wont die here
12:00 double kill angle and get passive also with flash weq but u can see Shok is not really good at Ryze so he use the max dmg "flash wqeq " and cant get the passive speed to get away from Atrox
Great content ! thank you so much for putting up the work :D
A nice vid could be carrying while behind, like how to capitalize on mistakes and get back into control of the game. ALSO would love some ori games in low elo, she is so fun for me. Would love to see you pilot her in low elo.
Orianna game coming up!
Can you explain why their comp has low threat? I thought the opposite
I suppose its high threat in terms of damage, but its low threat in terms of CC which is what I'm concerned about
Shoutout to the leona that carried hard at very key points in this match.
Shok, you should pick another champion for low elo. Like Lux/Ahri/Swain since they're more accessible for lower ranked players. Just my 5 cents.
Good feedback!
Happy one week (seven whole rotations) until AP seraphs kog'maw mid friends ! looking forward to vommiting everywhere the second i see the notification
Bro how are there 2 of u asking for this
@@ShokLeague i have started a great movement
Thanks for that amazing video!! :D
That Leona ult tho…. Wp
love this series
Hell yeah, Ryze gaming!
Would love to see some TF gameplay!
THANKS FOR RYZEEE
to behonest, this video is great. The amont of knowleadge is great
i love ryze shok 🙏🙏 blue men unite
Very good video 😊
Holly molly, best Graved this side of silver, wpgg to him.
Not to undervalue Shok, just I don't expect an active jungler in a smurf ladder series
Do a series of master to challenger
That's basically road to rank 1
hi shok hoping for a gragas gameplay
yea at lvl 2-3 ill get instantly ganked from enemy jgle;r get forced to pop flash than im dead and kat or the other guy have a lead either by my death or flash
graves comes, sure when ur jgler is human that happens, i get enemy jgler evne dive me when i do that also, so i have nightmares in soloo NA cue.
but yes thats the idea
You should totally play Evelynn mid while you’re in low elo and teach me how to make it work better :p
12:21 Aatrox W go throuh Jayce btw . nice game he could kill him there
Pls do a Vladimir game 🥹 great video
diana, akali, asol games Please
I don't think it is that important to go out of your way to point out what the enemy is doing wrong. IMO Commentating about what not to do is less efficient for learning than your current style of commentary. I think a viewer that aligns their habbits and learns from your tips will improve faster than if they were told their most obvious mistake. Trying to mimic a challenger helps to avoid mistakes passively as well as helping to improve using challenger knowledge. Serious thanks for being so dedicated to your informative videos. I am not playing the game atm due to not wanting to support vanguard's potential invasion of privacy, but watching your videos lets me enjoy the game just as much as if I were still playing. Cheers
DAY 6 of asking shok to play AP Kogmaw mid (how a challenger mid plays off meta picks)
AP Kog is so fun. It's super playable at least in my elo (emerald)
Go SHOKK
Bronze-Gold is just a salad fiesta of smurfs, new players, one tricks, for fun, try hards, bad players, and people who genuinely don't care. Draw your four and hope you didn't get the Teemo/Senna/Lux player.
They Pon't Pisten
Just stop talking and play better 😑
Bro your early phase is played badly. As ryze you should just perma poke katarina in early game consider playing with comet, scorch combo or even first strike. Then you rush archangel to increase your lead. As ryze main I can assure you that ryze has enough power to poke those assasins out escpecially when they are playing fucking dark seal first item and no second wind.
Also what ranks are u playing against bcs they seems like silvers or smth.
This is gold, it's called unranked to master for a reason. Comet/First strike are good for early game but they make teamfighting so difficult, I don't think it's good on Ryze unless it's the difference between getting prio over your lane or not. Archangel rush is not bad for soloq I think, ROA hp is very useful vs assassins though.
@@ShokLeague If those are golds all is clear now. You have to present stable builds for these fellas, you can try more agressive playstyle as ryze tho.
GL