I don't think lazy... they have designed and built lasers, lights, rifles, rotating barrel pistols, at the drop of a hat as soon as there is official demand, but they hesitate to throw them into the market.
I’m probably on an island here, but I buy Glocks because they HAVEN’T changed. I know them, trust them, and appreciate them not caving to social pressures and start altering what simply works and has worked for 40 years.
I agree 100%! Even he stated his favorite is the Gen 3 and whenever a new polymer striker fired pistol comes out who do they compare it to? Glock! Whenever a new PCC comes out what is the most asked question? Does it take Glock mags? I have spoken with a guy who works at Underwood ammo about their 10mm rounds and guess what they use for their test gun? Glock! So all of this suggests to me they did it right the first time.
Family can be a curse. It's depressingly common for awesome family firms to crater when the founder is replaced by dis-functional kids with a crap work ethic and/or substance abuse. Type-A supermen like Gaston Glock like smart, ambitious women. Would not be surprised if he picked a modern Dagny Taggart to kick names and take a$$.
either sell frames and slides separately with different slide cuts or try to move into the FCU design areo to make things super interchangeable. That's really the best part about the p320.
Nah, FCUs are extremely hard to detail strip. The trigger assembly of the Glock is so simple. The simplicity is what makes Glock so good. With frames and slides like the 47/49/45/17/19 the "modularity" is already there without f**king up the whole self armorer aspect of the pistol.
Yes 👏 I love the modularity of the 320 purely based on the fact that I can buy one or two FCUs then have everything else shipped to my door. It really is underrated not having to go from gun shop to gun shop trying to find the best price for the model I want. Not to mention the ability to drop it into a Flux Raider or other chassis.
I find it interesting that so many people want ”innovations” but can’t articulate what that means. To the point that the core essential elements seem to become overshadowed by these mystery “innovations”. When did being easy to learn, operate and service, along with functional reliability become overlooked, or afterthoughts to things like forward slide serrations?
As an Austrian, I would say that (while things are far from being perfect) the country is culturally and politically more friendly towards firearms and firearms manufacturing now than it has been at least since the early 1990s. And there are more than enough young technicians and engineers who would like to work in the firearms industry, among the probably more than 300k gun owners in the country, with dynamic and even "tactical" shooting sports becoming more and more popular. So this should not be a problem in the near future. With the slight risk that the wrong next government can allways ruin everything... but I think that this is quite unlikely. It has to be acknowledged that Glock is not only successful thanks to its firearms technology but thanks to it's manufacturing technology as well, which allows and allowed them to manufacture pistols, among other things, for a good pricepoint while keeping very small tolerances and a high reliability standard out of the box. At least some guys say that they are still ahead of their competition in this field and they are certainly still trying to improve. This obviously opens up the possibility of using this manufacturing know-how to make other things than just pistols (and maybe knives and shovels) better than their competition. Maybe rifles, rifle parts, rifle accessories? They seem to have tried recently. Maybe optical devices? They have produced camera parts in the past... and they have a laser-light module, which could certainly get an update... but maybe they don't like to make optical systems because Glock likes to make every important part of their producs in-house... and they can not produce lenses or LEDs or laser diodes or holographic plates, night vision tubes or whatever... but maybe they could change this philosophy and/or buy some small manufacturer which could produce this components for them and integrate it in their company... but this is an other thing that Glock did not do in the past.
T.Rex Arms thinks every country that isn't the US is a dictatorship that is determined to ban all firearms. There is some truth to that, of course, but civilian ownership of firearms is thriving in a lot of countries.
@@brendon9032 ownership is important, but if you're only allowed to own a firearm after the police interview you and give you temporary piece of paper that covers one gun that you keep unloaded in a locked safe at your local pistol club, it barely counts as ownership.
@@brendon9032 at least austria is one of few countries in europe were you can at least just go to a gunstore and buy a basic hunting rifle without any loicense.
No, everyone has sight preferences. I don’t want to have to shell out extra for sights I don’t want or that im just going to switch out. Keep the plastic standard. Glocks already have models that come with night sights or fiber optics btw.
@@robertlawson698 desired sights are subjective. I'm very picky about what sights I use. It would be a waste for me to have to pay for steel sights twice.
Pre-cut the damn slides for specific optics, fix your slidelock for big boi hands, undercut the 19's and better stippling (and non-plastic irons ffs) lol I'd buy 4 more right now.
@@joshuacowger6740 yes but thats the point, they make a gun where you have to do at least 5 things to it to make it modernized. I do all of the above to mine but how many manufacturers all of that is now standard. Their new performance trigger is promising but needs to come polished well from the factory or the reset gets gritty fast.
I think not having a solid plan in place for the company when you die is a failure and a betrayal of your employees and customers. That stuff should have been figured out years ago.
True. However, it is possible that there is a plan... and it is going into effect behind the scenes. Gaston was always more of a behind the scenes kinda guy.
Glock is a great example of the engineer's dilemma. Where do you go from perfect? Glocks are perfect for what they are - simple inexpensive time-tested and trusted 9mm workhorses. They aren’t the best, but they’re the best at the most things at once. The best improvements they could make will come with little fanfare - better sourcing, better polymers? Nobody will care.
Very true. Material spec, qc, design, and company identity are already on point. All I want to see are small quality of life improvements. The main thing I'd like is making something other than the frame the serialized portion. Like maybe the locking block, nobody ever goes to an aftermarket locking block.
Agreed - except to many people the Glock grips were anything but perfect. Many tolerated the hump and poor ergos while many others looked for better options elsewhere. Many of these people who looked beyond Glock would have bought a Glock if the grip was not an issue. It has been a glaring problem for a long time now.
Clock is the best Forty years without really having to change anything except for the people who wine that want more stuff on it Like putting a optic site on it. It's funny people can't shoot with iron sites
Steyr was not doing good and was sold to the same Czech investment fund that owns Arex Defense So ironically there is more chance that Steyr sees this fate much sooner than Glock :D
@@T.REXLabsAlso this could have been like a 5 minute video. You started making your point over half way through the video, like dude I don’t care that gen 3 is your favorite, trim the fat. lol peace and love dude, love your products!
@@ExCathedra1478Fast forwarding videos is also a very easy and fun activity. You can basically make the video any length you desire. You can even open the transcript and then tap on the part you want to start at. Or you can just touch and hold on the right side of the screen and make the video run faster.
@@actionjksn LMAO Let me see if I got this right. You were rolling through the comments and then saw mine. And it offended you enough to start white knighting for grown men on the internet, writing a snarky comment in the spirit of shutting me down over a minor critique that wasn’t directed at you. Lol Have a good day my man, it’s all good.
Electrical should not replace mechanical, and I don't think it will in our lifetimes, but you could easily make an electric trigger that will perform better than any mechanical trigger. It wouldn't even be close. It can also be made incredibly reliable, with excellent engineering and top quality materials. Basically make it to aerospace standards. It could also be made to adjust from 6 lb down to 6 oz. This would be very beneficial on a precision rifle.
As someone who’s into firearms, as well as airsoft, I can say that from my experience with electronic triggers in Airsoft (Gate Titan for example), something like that in the real firearm space could be revolutionary and they could innovate them more to be even better and more feature packed than what already exists. Yes the thought of electricity and batteries in a firearm raises some concerns, but once they figure it out, nothing else will be able to compete. That’s just how things will end up going at some point
@@KendallT751i cant help but feel those are empty words about how promising electronics will be. Its like when people talk about how electric cars, bitcoin, or whatever economic system is the perfect system but only consider the pros of these things in a vacuum. Consider that controlled obsolescence is an industry standard in electronics- do you trust companies to do the right thing over profit? What about mass production? So many modern problems stem from electronic malfunctions. You trust an iphone for self protection over proven mechanical engineering?
Glock brand 3D printer, matching print material, and licensed print files for home use. Print your own lowers with whatever options you want(finger grooves, gas pedal, stippling, grip angle, grip length, grip thickness).
If they could have something akin to a mini alternator in there that charges the trigger battery every time the slide cycles, it could work. PS if you steal my idea Glock you owe me royalties.
@@MakeItUpAsIGo Cars and fighter jets both drive/fly by wire. Sometimes the advantage is worth the increased complexity, sometimes it isn't. Would an electrically controlled and regulated ignition/combustion/ejecting/reloading cycle on a gun give any benefit? Maybe. Maybe not.
Glock needs to make a drama movie about Mr. Glock and release it around the same time as a 6th gen. Also the the Glock ar15 that was teased on the internet a year or so ago should be released in the US. That would help in the short term
Is a “pdw” another way of saying “short barreled carbine pistol”? Or what does that mean? If pdw is a “personal defense weapon” they already make those, aka handguns
@jeffroberts760 Personal Defense Weapons are a class of firearms specifically made to replace pistols. It, like most other categories, has a pretty loose definition that roughly means something smaller and lighter than the standard primary weapon (14.5-20" AR15 in today's world, M1 Garand when they first really came into prominence) but with a longer and more effective range than a standard handgun. This is so it can easily be carried and not interfere with your main tasks for non combat MOS/roles. Due to these factors they often make for great options as a secondary weapon for police and civilians to carry for niche situations where they have enough standoff they don't need to draw and fire immediately, and would likely be safer to use a better, more accurate system. Hopefully this helped with your understanding of modern firearm nomenclature. If you need help with anything else feel free to reach out!
Hello from Austria, I think you have a few misunderstandings. Europe is not a country. Austria has fairly liberal gun laws and a fairly pro gun culture, we are not Germany, we have always had some of the most liberal gun laws in Europe. Many better than the US. It's likely our next government will be the right wing FPOE who Gaston Glock supported and are very pro gun. As a neutral country both Glock and Steyr are considered as vital to our self defence. Austria needs it's own military industrial complex. We are not in NATO, we have conscription and we will likely have a somewhat Russian friendly government in the near future. Under Austrian law any sale or break up of either of these companies will be blocked by the government under national security grounds. Austrian culture is very much all about fear or failure over who dares wins. Glock really suffered after the Glock 44 in 22lr had initial problems. Glock doesn't really care about the US market. The way the Austrian tax system works most that money will go to the government anyway. Reputation is what the company cares about. Added to that is political influence inside Austria. The Austrian army are looking to update their service rifle in the next few years as the Aug is getting old. Glock will almost certainly have to make a bid for that contract. It will be expected. Added to that Steyr are building some fairly good hand guns now. Glock can't possibly allow Steyr to get an Austrian police or military hand gun contract so if Steyr innovate Glock will have to as well. The trials will also be open to guns made by international companies. However these would be made under contract in Austria. As such it's also possible Glock may in the future make a licenced copy of another modern futuristic gun if it's excepted by the Austrian government.
Glock should come out with a custom gun to order creator on their website. Different types of optic cuts for the slide, slide serration options, front/back/all slide serration cut options, different frame/slide cerakote options, finger grooves or not, slimline or normal thickness, laser etching on the slide, sight options, frame stippling, threaded or unthreaded barrel, maybe even factory compensators, large slide release/mag release so you don’t have to change it after you receive your pistol. I know a dozen aftermarket companies do all of this already but it would be cool if it could come straight from the factory built to the users desire.
Infinity does that with their 1911. They have 1 model, 1 SKU, 1 UPC code, but no 2 guns are identical. To have Glock or Sig open that up as an option would be huge. Sig could and would do it first, though.
This is one of those cases where just because you want that, doesn't mean others do. You're talking about a small portion of the gun community. The most profitable route for Glock is just making a gun that is a strong argument over other guns when people walk into the store, and when a department or agency is looking for a service pistol. They are already a strong argument, but some small changes would make them even stronger.
My first pistol was a Glock 45. As a novice at the time, I liked it, but wasn’t in love with it. Sights and trigger were my two main complaints. Years later, after a ton of training, it’s what I carry on a daily basis. Other than night sights, it’s stock. I branched out into a couple other brands, and they’re better in some respects, but I still carry the Glock, mainly because I’ve gotten used to it and in a SHTF situation, compatibility and a track record of reliability. I bought a Glock 43X and after a year of training with it, I absolutely hated it. The 45 is the only Glock I own…for now. Glock needs to pursue a business model like Porsche with its 911 design. It’s iconic in design, but each new generation gets better and better with more options and performance. They need to look at what the majority of owners are swapping out with aftermarket products: trigger, sights, grip stippling. They need to redesign the bottom of the trigger guard better. Put some decent iron sights on it, make a better optic mounting system and the trigger…there’s a reason why people are paying $295 for a Johnny Glock trigger, and he’s not doing anything magical to his triggers. But what he is doing, is making a world of difference. Research the market, research the competition and INNOVATE, and not at a snail’s pace so that your competition is outpacing you and stealing market share. Finally, and for the love of all things holy, don’t follow Sig Sauer’s path. I wouldn’t own that brand unless it was made in Germany years ago.
There is one very important reason Glock will NEVER be allowed to be sold or stripped. The Austrian government. Glock and Steyer are vital for the defense of the country and the government. What's important to note is, that Austria is a neutral country and therefore very protective of it's arms manufacturing.
Austria is not a neutral country anymore. Not since it gave weapons to Ukraine. Also Austria is a little bitch of Germany, so whatever Germans would want, Austria will do, so sonner or later Glock will be purchased by a German company.
What Glock needs to do is put some of that money toward lawsuits, get the Hughes Amendment repealed and make more Glock 18s. But in all reality what Glock should do is take a page out of SIG's book and make their next line of Glocks with the removable trigger pack. That way the TRIGGER PACK is the firearm. You can put the pack in different pistol chassis, you can make a PDW/SMG chassis, etc etc. Perfect a Glock trigger pack and then just build around that. A modular Glock. Especially since militaries are going toward modularity and more "do it all" things these days.
This story sounds a lot like Harley Davidson a couple of decades ago. Harley chose to extract a much value as possible from familiar designs and their brand. They allowed their existing customers to herd them into a narrow market segment so long they seem incapable of innovation now.
I’ve owned Glocks all my life but recently bought a Shadow System MR920P and absolutely love it, I’ve kinda forgotten I own 5 Glocks that aren’t getting any attention now .
Glock was my first polymer frame pistol... It's now my least used. The not-a-glocks that are out there now are doing it so much better, at least feature-wise.
They need to make a PCC about the same size as a Flux Raider which takes their G19 mags and uses the G17L barrel. They would make more money than the bank.
I've always said they need to create a custom shop. If you want a glock 19 with or without finger grooves, with or without front slide serrations. Bring back the rtf texture. Create metal iron sights (believe it or not, some of us actually like the design of the factory glock sights).
Maintenance (in this case the absence of it being needed very often) and the fact that they all “drive the same way”. Summer, winter, spring and fall, range time at least monthly, it got sweated on and rained on and was cleaned when I remembered to do it……at least once a year. Those two things are still is a huge draw for me. I carried my G19 tucked in my pants for many years and it never rusted and always went “bang” when the trigger was pulled. I recently changed to a G48 when the 15 round mags were pretty much perfected.
I would love to see Glock Inc branch out more. Obviously they are privately held like Sig (so who knows what their EBIT margin is) but I would imagine that with the amount of commercial sales and local/federal govt contracts, they are not just scraping by. Point being is that they likely have the free cash to fund more R&D and vertically integrate more with whatever they end up doing. They make great firearms. It'd be awesome to see a "Glock Custom Works", long arms or PCC. **Spoiler Alert: it is very easy to say what someone else should do with their money and Glock will probably just continue to make the same gun and bring back finger grooves in Gen6.**
With magazine technology the way it's going, my prediction would be Glock 19 and 17 sized handguns that hold 17 and 20 rounds respectively, and are the same width as a Glock 48.
The apparent structure of the company when I researched it was such that Gaston had final say on EVERYTHING, so in my mind the fact that Glock hasn't quite caught up with other companies seems to be from Gaston's stubbornness, which is supported by his son, who left the company because he found it intolerable to work under him, and his daughter, who did not leave, but indicated that he was a type A personality. Way I see it, this is going to make way like Ruger, where when the old man passed, Ruger began really innovating and experimenting with new designs and ideas. As great as he was, Gaston was a significant roadblock in bringing Glock pistols into modern contexts. Now his wife is at the helm (who is like 30 years younger than he was by the way) and hopefully she can greenlight some real innovation.
I’m really hopeful that’s true. Even if it’s just small changes that just make sense like removing the hump/excessive curve on the backstrap via better designed removable backstrap system or complete redesign of the frames outer geometry, metal sights standard and improved slide release levers. For big changes I’d like to see a removable FCU. I’d probably dump my 320 for an FCU Glock and I really like my 320.
shes been making watches. not gonna lie, i like them. the special one i saw comes with a miniature "green" gun case (that classic green you see every glock 18 lower colored in video games look like, think CSGO or MW2). Swiss movement, they look clean, and take some design queues from the pistols (one of the second hand faces looks like the back of a 9mm casing, the crown has a little circle dot reticle on it, the bands / metals parody popular lower / upper color combinations, and there are "slide cuts" on the bezel of some models). They cost about as much as the gun. I like watches personally, but its kinda weird. I hope the jewelry stuff the wife is doing doesn't take away from anything else, and they genuinely seem like high quality, unlike when Smith and Wesson make knives and stuff, which is way more like a cheap shoddy product trying to sell off of brand name alone.
I actually think they can keep the status quo going for a pretty long time, and they probably will. Small enhancements to the gen 6, 7, 8, etc., will probably keep them making money for the next 25-50 years.
I disagree. The only thing they have left is reliability. They are no longer ergonomic modular innovators. They are thicker, heavier, more expensive, and less modular than their competitors. They are reliable dinosaurs, but compared to the innovation of the Hellcat/Hellcat pro, the p365 line, the p320 line, and m&p 2.0s they are WAY behind. By the time you add a comp, a new trigger, non polymer mags, an optic cut, and a magwell you are paying twice what you would pay for one of the competitors and STILL getting a worse product. If glocks didnt have the name brand and reputation of reliability they would have already gone under. If you deleted Glock from the timeline and added it back in this current market NO ONE would buy them. The only good thing about Glock is reliability.
@@seraph...4473Sig is a meme, shadow systems is a meme. I agree about the m&p 2.0, shot one recently with an apex trigger and loved it. However I’d only trust a Glock or an old school Sig p228/226
@@Sercer25 but those guns you mentioned are so big. Why cant Glock just make us a gun we can trust with 17rds in the mag that is the size of the Hellcat Pro or G43X?
@@seraph...4473 I would think they're considering it, but I think the limitations of polymer and longetivity with the mags might be something they have to figure out. G19 is still my go to. I can conceal it pretty well.
I bought a range gun that a local range decided it was time to replace. I took it completely apart and cleaned all the gunk out and the internals look almost new. That gun went on to become a custom with all the bells and whistles. Who knows how many rounds it’s had through it. Thousands and thousands I’m sure. It’s still going strong.
Different connectors in Gen 3 and Gen 4. I prefer the "5.5 lb" connector in the gen 3. Heavier but more crisp. Lighter weight connectors have a more rolling break. I would like to try the new pre-cocked trigger from glock. Maybe a modified version from Johnny Glock.
Kudos to you, I hadn't even considered leaning into a company's legacy as a viable move. But, I think it would be prudent for the company to do now that Gaston has passed.
Just because a caveman’s rock hasn’t broken, doesn’t mean a hammer wouldn’t improve his life. Just cuz the horse and chariot wasn’t broken, doesn’t mean the automobile was a poor idea. “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it,” is a broken saying. Let’s fix it: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it… improve it a little instead.” K. I’m done being a smart alec. (Not the Baldwin kind. Just any kind.)
@@T.REXLabs maybe when their competitors first makes an prototype model that is undeniable, there is no first mover advantage, Glock compiled features that are undeniable improvements, when others simply ignored them, and made the Glock, but currently, there is no clear next step that will revolutionize the pistol industry, maybe an rifle round, carbon fiber frame, titanium slide, or something like that, but conditions haven't been met yet for those things to be cheap enough
Glock needs to (1) stop using the polymer sights, (2) develop their own Glock “shield arms” mag that is backwards compatible with older Glock magazines, (3) cut down the length of pull on their pistols again which I think would make their designs much easier to shoot for smaller hand people
This is a great video. I’m a huge Glock fan and I hope that they make the right decision and go down the right path. One thing I know if I was the owner of Glock I would try to hire you because you seem like you have an appreciation for the platform. I know and understand there’s only so much that you can do to a handgun as far as making it more ergonomic and adding more features but being the guardians over the platform seems like a great idea because there are so many Glock clones out there if Glock can be the guardian of that And open things up I think that can be a great step in the right direction like you said
I'd say just about nobody else, in the comments or out could say it better than he just did. Those are the options an i pray they take the former or the latter , for their sake and ours! Excellent video as per usual, keep up the amazing work man! ❤✌️😎
It's not flashy, but it works, and there's something to be said for a company that makes possibly THE most reliable handgun ever made while all the other companies that are constantly changing things tend to have issues. There's something to the adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" The only thing I would want them to change is to go full ambidextrous on all their models.
"Get a Glock. Glock is perfection!" "Where's your Glock?" "I sent it back to Glock to fix the trigger, the extractor, the mag well, the sights, and have it milled for a red dot."
those things are personal preference, you know, something Glock allows, Glock perfection, means the perfect gun for the individual, since there's no way to make an stock perfect gun, someone will always want an minor change
NOTHING electronic belongs in the fire control of a small arm, ESPECIALLY a handgun; that introduces significant failure conditions that will NEVER plague a strictly mechanical design.
Honestly, glocks don’t need a ton of innovation. They own the market and their longevity is partly due to the simplicity of design. Making a separate FCU adds more parts that can lead to failure. The Glock handgun is perfect for what it was designed to be, a combat pistol. The only thing I would hope for would be to ditch the MOS system and just cut everything for RMR. Other than that, Leave it alone and continue to make reliable firearms.
What made us switch from Glock to S&W M&P was how we could get the mid-side M&P, add a sleeve to the full size mag which marries perfectly with the grip, and now you have what essentially is now the Glock 45. However, if one has to start carrying a more concealable weapon, just use the mid size mags. It's two in one. If you want that capability with a Glock, you have to buy a G45 and a G19. Someone over at Glock needs get with the program of actually innovating like Smith did, they'd sell like crazy!
There are plenty of other manufacturers that offer removable fire control groups, "non-Glock" grip angles, and factory night sights. Some of us have been shooting Glock grip angles for a long time and prefer them. Some of us have also found what we like and don't care about/feel the need to swap between 3-4 grip modules. A 43X/48 or 26 for concealed carry and a 19/17 for less concealed use or larger folks works. Some of us know what we like and would rather not pay extra for sights we're just going to replace anyway. All I'd want, maybe, would be metal mags to bump capacity and/or allow a slightly smaller circumference grip. The rest is fine with me and I'd hazard to say a great many others as well. Simply copying other manufacturers isn't innovation anyway.
You can argue the innovation was already done by competition. Why release Glock with all the mods stock for 600-700 when u can get a snare dagger for less?
I’m halfway through this, and I think they should just continue along the current path. Listen to the customer. Innovate when it’s demanded. Otherwise, don’t change a thing.
I too favor the G17 gen3. I also edc a G43X, my fun gun is a G44. Now I'm a retired law enforcement officer of 30+years and my duty weapon up until retirement was a G22 gen4 a great gun. I had texting driver forever changed my life. I could no longer retract the slide on my beloved G22, so I sold and purchased the G17 gen3 and the slide is more manageable. However I feel their pistols don't need a change, I would like to see a pistol caliber carbine by Glock.
gen 3 17 is the first gun I bought. there is no other handgun that shoots as well, maybe besides the gen 5. What glock should do is release that AR they did for British MoD
I’m not really a Glock fan but this I will say. They are excellent firearms. They are extremely durable and well made. I just don’t shoot them well compared to other manufacturers. I hope they stay in business and I hope they thrive.
The main things I would love to see from Glock: 1: have an option for American grip angles (this is the only reason I don’t own a Glock) 2: semi-custom shop x slide, x frame, x optic cut, threaded barrel, etc. with reasonable pricing for options. 3: steel mags for increased capacity… yeah, your polymer is great, but you could fit so many more rounds in the exact same footprint. (At least make it an option)
@@Hornet135 most grip angles are either closer to the 1911 at ~16° or closer to the Glock and other European manufacturers at closer to ~21°. It’s not strictly “American” since sig and Cz both have lots of guns with that 1911 style grip angle, but it’s commonly referred to as the American grip angle. Getting a sight picture on a gun with the grip angle of the Glock is not intuitive for a lot of people, myself included. I can get a good quick sight picture on pretty much any “American” angled pistol, where with Glocks etc there’s an initial adjustment to get the sights lines up.
Glock needs to go the FCG route so that they can sell a single FCG module each for their large frames, their doublestacks, and their single stack offerings, and then focus on incremental improvements to their product lines through modularity like Sig has done. They also need to get off the polymer mag train and produce OEM steel mags that hold more rounds across all of their models. The aftermarket has been eating their lunch and making the 43x/48 viable options in the micro 9mm carry market with better mags. WIthout them I don't think the single stack glocks would be anywhere near as popular as they've remained.
Glock 50 5” 10mm It actually makes sense this time 26x 26xs with like a 43 slide 30sgen5 17l/24 gen 5 Bigger mags for 10 and .45 Gen 6: selector switches on everything 18/18c gen5 20c gen5
Most "innovations" these days are just bullshit anyway. The only thing I "need to" change on my Glocks are the sights. The Gen 5 trigger is fine for duty use. I like the grip angle. Glock will not and should not change it. I understand why people don't like the grip angle - fine, don't buy a Glock. If I want an optic, direct milled is best. Ditch the MOS. It's crap and I sure don't want to use plastic plates. Glocks are good guns, magazines are inexpensive. They'll be fine.
I mostly agree. There are some small tweaks that could be made, but that's been exactly what the generation changes have encompassed. Perhaps the only meaningful improvements that have been made are capacity for smaller guns (like the P365) or removable fire control groups. Everything else is a wash, or a matter of opinion. Some people (like myself) keep buying Glocks because we understand that the bleeding edge of "innovation" these days is mostly just breaking things that used to work fine, all to try to differentiate themselves from Glock. I'd much rather maintain magazine compatibility, holster compatibility, and reliability than try to reinvent the wheel for no meaningful gain.
I like my gen 3 and I think they are still the most reliable version of the Glock pistol. They should keep the OG design but also make something new and innovative that looks nothing like a Glock. Give it amazing ergonomics and get rid of the block shaped slide with something more sculpted and cool looking. Design a metal high cap magazine that works in the old stuff. I actually like the simple spartan look of it, but a lot of people don't. The ergonomics could use some improvements though. They need something incredibly thin for CCW that still has a pretty high capacity. A PCC that is good and affordable would sell like crazy. They should also mass produce the AR style rife that they made a prototype of. They should also start making AR stocks with their proprietary polymer. Including some of those precision rifle type stocks, and even make some polymer chassis systems for some of the popular bolt actions like the Remington 700 and the Tikka. As long as they were good designs these things would sell just for being Glock. Once the molds are made and everything is set up I think many of these things are pretty quick and cheap to make. Magpul wouldn't be too happy about it.
One big issue that wasn’t talked about is the fact that Glock charges you extra for feature that come standard on other guns; like picatinny rail, stippling, optic cut. You gotta get the Glock 43x /mos/ pro/ competition….to get those features.
If they make the best most reliable gun, why change? The 1911 still has legs, the 2011 is really just a minor modification of the design. Since most manufacturers keep changing their designs, Glocks conservatism is a good thing. Whether the company is successful or not, who cares? If you care about their success, then you like Glock, therefore Glock should not change.
Electronic triggers is the worse idea ever. Anything electronic will malfunction. I know you make a living playing with guns. But you’ve never been in a gunfight. It’s a different world. There’s far more that can be done to improve a gun than electronics and gizmos. That’s pretty ridiculous.
Still rocking irons, I assume? While I agree on the triggers bit, sometimes you have to experiment with “ridiculous” ideas in order to make something awesome later. Kinda like plastic guns. Who the heck would buy a gun made of plastic? Oh wait. Let R&D breathe and stretch its wings a bit. You may be surprised.
I think companies like Shadow Systems is going to keep taking market share from them unless they innovate. If they don’t innovate they will become like Colt.
Glock should get rid of their dumb ass naming convention. Glock 17, 17L, 34,19,26,43,43x,48,48x, are all 9mm. 44 is a 22lr, give me a break!! All Glocks should have light rails and optic cuts. The trigger sucks, I upgraded my Glock trigger by buying a PPQ. They need more 22lr & 380 models to attract younger and female shooter's. If they don't change there are other good gun companies
Why would glock come out with some new ground breaking technology? They don’t need to. What would you improve? You can’t just reinvent the wheel every 50 years just because you’re “bored” with the technology.
It's great to see a TREX video hosted by an actual adult who doesn't engage in smarmy callouts of other creators. It's almost as if the whole issue circles around a single person at the company...
@@TheHashtagSquad2K15 I dislike him because he's petty, childish, and unprofessional- for some reason he thinks everyone has issues with his values when it's really his shitty attitude. I love TREX and their helpful content, but Lucas is not the person to center their company's image upon.
I think they’ll probably start to listen to their customers more. It’s the safest thing for them to do while they gear up for choosing a path. Even some minor changes (like grip relief or undercuts) would buy them some goodwill. Folks who shoot Glocks a lot usually wind up making some changes to them to suit them better. If Glock started offering some of that stuff for minor upcharges, that would probably help them consider the costs and benefits of true innovation. Think like opening a Smith and Wesson Performance Center-style division that gets customer feedback and incorporates it into relatively minor changes just before products leave the factory that cost a bit more than the base model, but save time and money doing modifications (or having them done) after purchase.
For now they could R&D: - better durable sights - drimmel of the armpit between trigger guard and grip - double stack mags - PCC (pistol caliber carabine) - FPC (foldable pistol caliber)
first, i’m grateful for everything the botkin brothers are willing to share. second, it could be a second sea change if glock was able to redesign their trigger to pull like the 1911 - straight back, rather than hinged. certain there’s much more.
As an outside observer. Glock probably has an INCREDIBLY conservative corporate culture. Going the innovation route will be very hard for them I think
They certainly had a very conservative CEO... I'm not sure what their corporate structure will look like without him.
Conway's law might be interesting here
conservative or _lazy_ (resting on one's laurels)
I don't think lazy... they have designed and built lasers, lights, rifles, rotating barrel pistols, at the drop of a hat as soon as there is official demand, but they hesitate to throw them into the market.
@@T.REXLabs The gun is well designed, the only thing they really should do is upgrade the sights they're shipping Glocks with to metal sights
If GLOCK made a good PCC that, obviously, uses their mags it would be like printing money for them.
10000% would buy one.
Same here. It was a dream of mine over a decade ago.. when I bought a SUB-2000. Then brought it home and took an exacto knife to remove the burrs😂
was thinking the same thing!
A Glock branded 10mm CMMG Banshee….
CAA MCK chassis Gen 3 with long slide 10mm. Done!
When the founder is gone companies can become lost. Look at Apple. I hope then don’t come out with a Glock 17 Pro Max lol
Too late, gen 5....
We'll be at gen 18 in about 3 years 😂😂😂
@@xxxlonewolf49 ouch
@@Jack-M1113 they will keep changing the magazine design like Apple changes the charger
Wait til they change the sights Glock boys are going to lose their 💩😂🤣
I’m probably on an island here, but I buy Glocks because they HAVEN’T changed. I know them, trust them, and appreciate them not caving to social pressures and start altering what simply works and has worked for 40 years.
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You are not alone! I'm with you exactly for the same reasons.
I agree 100%! Even he stated his favorite is the Gen 3 and whenever a new polymer striker fired pistol comes out who do they compare it to? Glock! Whenever a new PCC comes out what is the most asked question? Does it take Glock mags? I have spoken with a guy who works at Underwood ammo about their 10mm rounds and guess what they use for their test gun? Glock! So all of this suggests to me they did it right the first time.
this is the same reason people still buy 1911’s…it’ll come to a point where glocks are looked at as a fudd relic
If honda made a new 1998 civic today, it would sell like fuckin hotcakes.
Same with Toyota Tacoma. 😂
What
I had a 1997 Civic for almost 18 years and would gladly buy another one if I could.
@@SombraPiloto oh ok. I would buy my 93’ Cherokee again
1998 Dodge Viper
"Divorced his wife, fired his kids, married a woman 50 yrs younger and put her on the board." -There's no fool like an old fool.
HELL yes! I'll see that movie!
Glock AR-15s 9 mm using Glock mags
Glock crashing out
Wow what a stand up guy. With family members like him who needs enemies.
Family can be a curse. It's depressingly common for awesome family firms to crater when the founder is replaced by dis-functional kids with a crap work ethic and/or substance abuse.
Type-A supermen like Gaston Glock like smart, ambitious women. Would not be surprised if he picked a modern Dagny Taggart to kick names and take a$$.
Would be kinda cool if they released that AR that they submitted for that british SOF contract
Or if they did a Glock 2011
@@michaelcarbis2286 That's a bunch of platypus..
@@michaelcarbis2286 that would be a step backwards.
Booo
20 years ago maybe but as amazing of a design it I'd Glock has the resources to make the next innovative rifle.
either sell frames and slides separately with different slide cuts or try to move into the FCU design areo to make things super interchangeable. That's really the best part about the p320.
I just want oem slides
Nah, FCUs are extremely hard to detail strip. The trigger assembly of the Glock is so simple. The simplicity is what makes Glock so good. With frames and slides like the 47/49/45/17/19 the "modularity" is already there without f**king up the whole self armorer aspect of the pistol.
Yes 👏
I love the modularity of the 320 purely based on the fact that I can buy one or two FCUs then have everything else shipped to my door. It really is underrated not having to go from gun shop to gun shop trying to find the best price for the model I want.
Not to mention the ability to drop it into a Flux Raider or other chassis.
You can buy just oem slides or just oem frames already and have been able to for a long while now
@@UMADBRO64didnt know the 320 could be detail disassembled down to the bare serialized receiver with a single pin 😂😂
As a Glock owner and enjoyer, I don’t actually know how I want them to proceed.
Same.
I fall in this category too. I’d like to see left handed compatibility in the slimline models, I’d buy a 43 and 48 immediately.
Which is why I fix cars 9-5 rather than sit on a corporate board. Not an ideas man. Dirty hands clean money. To spend on guns :)
I find it interesting that so many people want ”innovations” but can’t articulate what that means. To the point that the core essential elements seem to become overshadowed by these mystery “innovations”. When did being easy to learn, operate and service, along with functional reliability become overlooked, or afterthoughts to things like forward slide serrations?
@@jasonehredt968 fellow mechanic brother, getting screwed by advisors all day 😂😂
As an Austrian, I would say that (while things are far from being perfect) the country is culturally and politically more friendly towards firearms and firearms manufacturing now than it has been at least since the early 1990s. And there are more than enough young technicians and engineers who would like to work in the firearms industry, among the probably more than 300k gun owners in the country, with dynamic and even "tactical" shooting sports becoming more and more popular. So this should not be a problem in the near future. With the slight risk that the wrong next government can allways ruin everything... but I think that this is quite unlikely.
It has to be acknowledged that Glock is not only successful thanks to its firearms technology but thanks to it's manufacturing technology as well, which allows and allowed them to manufacture pistols, among other things, for a good pricepoint while keeping very small tolerances and a high reliability standard out of the box. At least some guys say that they are still ahead of their competition in this field and they are certainly still trying to improve.
This obviously opens up the possibility of using this manufacturing know-how to make other things than just pistols (and maybe knives and shovels) better than their competition. Maybe rifles, rifle parts, rifle accessories? They seem to have tried recently. Maybe optical devices? They have produced camera parts in the past... and they have a laser-light module, which could certainly get an update... but maybe they don't like to make optical systems because Glock likes to make every important part of their producs in-house... and they can not produce lenses or LEDs or laser diodes or holographic plates, night vision tubes or whatever... but maybe they could change this philosophy and/or buy some small manufacturer which could produce this components for them and integrate it in their company... but this is an other thing that Glock did not do in the past.
Great comment! Being able to do so much in-house is a superpower, and it's another reason that they shouldn't be broken up.
T.Rex Arms thinks every country that isn't the US is a dictatorship that is determined to ban all firearms.
There is some truth to that, of course, but civilian ownership of firearms is thriving in a lot of countries.
@@brendon9032 ownership is important, but if you're only allowed to own a firearm after the police interview you and give you temporary piece of paper that covers one gun that you keep unloaded in a locked safe at your local pistol club, it barely counts as ownership.
I visited Austria recently. I enjoyed it immensely and what a beautiful place!
@@brendon9032 at least austria is one of few countries in europe were you can at least just go to a gunstore and buy a basic hunting rifle without any loicense.
At a minimum, they should start shipping all Glocks standard with steel sights. Even better if they are night sights.
That's exactly what I thought when I bought my 19X, which came with steel night sights. Why don't they just put these sights on all of their pistols🤔
Absolutely. And, no better choice than Ameriglo KD4 sights.
No, everyone has sight preferences. I don’t want to have to shell out extra for sights I don’t want or that im just going to switch out. Keep the plastic standard. Glocks already have models that come with night sights or fiber optics btw.
@@islas357 Yea, and my sight preferences are not dogshit plastic.
@@robertlawson698 desired sights are subjective. I'm very picky about what sights I use. It would be a waste for me to have to pay for steel sights twice.
Pre-cut the damn slides for specific optics, fix your slidelock for big boi hands, undercut the 19's and better stippling (and non-plastic irons ffs) lol I'd buy 4 more right now.
Slidelock is intentionally made like that. But you can change it out to accompany your Chewbacca hands
That's why I got kagwerks extended slidelock wings
@@RabbitWatchShop got them lil tiny boi hands huh? Pretty sure guns are made intentionally, doesnt mean its smart lol
Make tritium sights standard on all Glocks. Make optic cut standard on all guns.
@@joshuacowger6740 yes but thats the point, they make a gun where you have to do at least 5 things to it to make it modernized. I do all of the above to mine but how many manufacturers all of that is now standard. Their new performance trigger is promising but needs to come polished well from the factory or the reset gets gritty fast.
I really enjoy the labs videos way more than arms videos lately. Hell of a job Isaac! Keep the quality content coming!
Agreed. Enjoying these very much.
Same dude. Lucas has become very difficult to watch. Nice to learn without bracing for a pompous attitude.
Same. I watch for the gun stuff not for religion to be shoved in my face.
I think not having a solid plan in place for the company when you die is a failure and a betrayal of your employees and customers. That stuff should have been figured out years ago.
True. However, it is possible that there is a plan... and it is going into effect behind the scenes. Gaston was always more of a behind the scenes kinda guy.
@@T.REXLabsi agree that more likely it is in the works already. They wont reveal what they have been working on until it is near ready or fully ready
Glock is a great example of the engineer's dilemma. Where do you go from perfect? Glocks are perfect for what they are - simple inexpensive time-tested and trusted 9mm workhorses. They aren’t the best, but they’re the best at the most things at once. The best improvements they could make will come with little fanfare - better sourcing, better polymers? Nobody will care.
Very true. Material spec, qc, design, and company identity are already on point. All I want to see are small quality of life improvements. The main thing I'd like is making something other than the frame the serialized portion. Like maybe the locking block, nobody ever goes to an aftermarket locking block.
Agreed - except to many people the Glock grips were anything but perfect. Many tolerated the hump and poor ergos while many others looked for better options elsewhere. Many of these people who looked beyond Glock would have bought a Glock if the grip was not an issue. It has been a glaring problem for a long time now.
@@AZTriggerThe grip is the main reason I don't like blocks.
Clock is the best Forty years without really having to change anything except for the people who wine that want more stuff on it Like putting a optic site on it. It's funny people can't shoot with iron sites
Steyr was not doing good and was sold to the same Czech investment fund that owns Arex Defense
So ironically there is more chance that Steyr sees this fate much sooner than Glock :D
Well, yes.
@@T.REXLabsAlso this could have been like a 5 minute video. You started making your point over half way through the video, like dude I don’t care that gen 3 is your favorite, trim the fat. lol peace and love dude, love your products!
@@ExCathedra1478Fast forwarding videos is also a very easy and fun activity. You can basically make the video any length you desire. You can even open the transcript and then tap on the part you want to start at. Or you can just touch and hold on the right side of the screen and make the video run faster.
@@actionjksn LMAO
Let me see if I got this right. You were rolling through the comments and then saw mine. And it offended you enough to start white knighting for grown men on the internet, writing a snarky comment in the spirit of shutting me down over a minor critique that wasn’t directed at you. Lol Have a good day my man, it’s all good.
The day I heard Gaston Glock passed, one of my first thoughts was "I bet we see a lot of innovation in the next couple of years."
Same
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
New DEI features.
Yall are gonna get innovation alright. Zuckerberg level aspergers level innovation.
Ruger didn't innovate much until after Bill Ruger passed away.
No one wants electricity in a firearm. It works fine without battery's
Electrical should not replace mechanical, and I don't think it will in our lifetimes, but you could easily make an electric trigger that will perform better than any mechanical trigger. It wouldn't even be close. It can also be made incredibly reliable, with excellent engineering and top quality materials. Basically make it to aerospace standards. It could also be made to adjust from 6 lb down to 6 oz. This would be very beneficial on a precision rifle.
As someone who’s into firearms, as well as airsoft, I can say that from my experience with electronic triggers in Airsoft (Gate Titan for example), something like that in the real firearm space could be revolutionary and they could innovate them more to be even better and more feature packed than what already exists. Yes the thought of electricity and batteries in a firearm raises some concerns, but once they figure it out, nothing else will be able to compete. That’s just how things will end up going at some point
@@KendallT751i cant help but feel those are empty words about how promising electronics will be. Its like when people talk about how electric cars, bitcoin, or whatever economic system is the perfect system but only consider the pros of these things in a vacuum. Consider that controlled obsolescence is an industry standard in electronics- do you trust companies to do the right thing over profit? What about mass production? So many modern problems stem from electronic malfunctions. You trust an iphone for self protection over proven mechanical engineering?
Glock brand 3D printer, matching print material, and licensed print files for home use. Print your own lowers with whatever options you want(finger grooves, gas pedal, stippling, grip angle, grip length, grip thickness).
Based comment...
No to eletric triggers. "My gun doesn't fire, needs a charge."
I guess you don't use any electric optics on your guns, right?
@@maximusjoseppi5904 You can still fire you're gun without optics..
If they could have something akin to a mini alternator in there that charges the trigger battery every time the slide cycles, it could work. PS if you steal my idea Glock you owe me royalties.
@@elcidcampeador9629the more mechanical parts, the more can go wrong.
@@MakeItUpAsIGo Cars and fighter jets both drive/fly by wire. Sometimes the advantage is worth the increased complexity, sometimes it isn't. Would an electrically controlled and regulated ignition/combustion/ejecting/reloading cycle on a gun give any benefit? Maybe. Maybe not.
Glock needs to make a drama movie about Mr. Glock and release it around the same time as a 6th gen. Also the the Glock ar15 that was teased on the internet a year or so ago should be released in the US. That would help in the short term
Wait, there is a sixth gen coming or is that speculation?
@@TexasRedneckyou got to be an idiot if you don't think gen 6 is not going to come out eventually.
@@TexasRedneckspeculation, but they will have to drop a new gen at some point to keep things fresh. Maybe the G46
Yes but include the horses & make it a horsegirl style movie where they’re misunderstood but come out on top
I have been dreaming of a Gaston Glock movie ever since I read his biography more than a decade ago, "Glock, The Rise of the America's Gun".
A Glock pdw would be great, also establishing standards like Bluetooth
Is a “pdw” another way of saying “short barreled carbine pistol”? Or what does that mean? If pdw is a “personal defense weapon” they already make those, aka handguns
@jeffroberts760 Personal Defense Weapons are a class of firearms specifically made to replace pistols. It, like most other categories, has a pretty loose definition that roughly means something smaller and lighter than the standard primary weapon (14.5-20" AR15 in today's world, M1 Garand when they first really came into prominence) but with a longer and more effective range than a standard handgun. This is so it can easily be carried and not interfere with your main tasks for non combat MOS/roles. Due to these factors they often make for great options as a secondary weapon for police and civilians to carry for niche situations where they have enough standoff they don't need to draw and fire immediately, and would likely be safer to use a better, more accurate system. Hopefully this helped with your understanding of modern firearm nomenclature. If you need help with anything else feel free to reach out!
@@buff34x holy detailed answer Batman! Thanks for the effort
Hello from Austria, I think you have a few misunderstandings. Europe is not a country. Austria has fairly liberal gun laws and a fairly pro gun culture, we are not Germany, we have always had some of the most liberal gun laws in Europe. Many better than the US. It's likely our next government will be the right wing FPOE who Gaston Glock supported and are very pro gun.
As a neutral country both Glock and Steyr are considered as vital to our self defence. Austria needs it's own military industrial complex. We are not in NATO, we have conscription and we will likely have a somewhat Russian friendly government in the near future. Under Austrian law any sale or break up of either of these companies will be blocked by the government under national security grounds.
Austrian culture is very much all about fear or failure over who dares wins. Glock really suffered after the Glock 44 in 22lr had initial problems. Glock doesn't really care about the US market. The way the Austrian tax system works most that money will go to the government anyway. Reputation is what the company cares about. Added to that is political influence inside Austria.
The Austrian army are looking to update their service rifle in the next few years as the Aug is getting old. Glock will almost certainly have to make a bid for that contract. It will be expected. Added to that Steyr are building some fairly good hand guns now. Glock can't possibly allow Steyr to get an Austrian police or military hand gun contract so if Steyr innovate Glock will have to as well. The trials will also be open to guns made by international companies. However these would be made under contract in Austria. As such it's also possible Glock may in the future make a licenced copy of another modern futuristic gun if it's excepted by the Austrian government.
Sehr sche gschrim 👌🏻
Thank you for this perspective.
I would be worried if the Austrian government becames Russian friendly as that’s a bad thing
@@bmwman1981 Well I think Austria will not support Russian ! . But we are not in the NATO and try to some neutral as possible .
@@bmwman1981 Yes it is, although I suspect the FPÖ with be in coalition with the Christian Democrats that will keep them going to far.
Glock should come out with a custom gun to order creator on their website. Different types of optic cuts for the slide, slide serration options, front/back/all slide serration cut options, different frame/slide cerakote options, finger grooves or not, slimline or normal thickness, laser etching on the slide, sight options, frame stippling, threaded or unthreaded barrel, maybe even factory compensators, large slide release/mag release so you don’t have to change it after you receive your pistol. I know a dozen aftermarket companies do all of this already but it would be cool if it could come straight from the factory built to the users desire.
Infinity does that with their 1911. They have 1 model, 1 SKU, 1 UPC code, but no 2 guns are identical. To have Glock or Sig open that up as an option would be huge. Sig could and would do it first, though.
@@christianmiranda23 yeah but Glock could just do it based on frame size, full, compact and sub compact. You choose the rest
With a chance to personalize it and pick your colors/ finishes.
THANK YOU.
This is one of those cases where just because you want that, doesn't mean others do. You're talking about a small portion of the gun community. The most profitable route for Glock is just making a gun that is a strong argument over other guns when people walk into the store, and when a department or agency is looking for a service pistol. They are already a strong argument, but some small changes would make them even stronger.
My first pistol was a Glock 45. As a novice at the time, I liked it, but wasn’t in love with it. Sights and trigger were my two main complaints. Years later, after a ton of training, it’s what I carry on a daily basis. Other than night sights, it’s stock. I branched out into a couple other brands, and they’re better in some respects, but I still carry the Glock, mainly because I’ve gotten used to it and in a SHTF situation, compatibility and a track record of reliability. I bought a Glock 43X and after a year of training with it, I absolutely hated it. The 45 is the only Glock I own…for now. Glock needs to pursue a business model like Porsche with its 911 design. It’s iconic in design, but each new generation gets better and better with more options and performance. They need to look at what the majority of owners are swapping out with aftermarket products: trigger, sights, grip stippling. They need to redesign the bottom of the trigger guard better. Put some decent iron sights on it, make a better optic mounting system and the trigger…there’s a reason why people are paying $295 for a Johnny Glock trigger, and he’s not doing anything magical to his triggers. But what he is doing, is making a world of difference. Research the market, research the competition and INNOVATE, and not at a snail’s pace so that your competition is outpacing you and stealing market share. Finally, and for the love of all things holy, don’t follow Sig Sauer’s path. I wouldn’t own that brand unless it was made in Germany years ago.
There is one very important reason Glock will NEVER be allowed to be sold or stripped. The Austrian government. Glock and Steyer are vital for the defense of the country and the government. What's important to note is, that Austria is a neutral country and therefore very protective of it's arms manufacturing.
Austria is not a neutral country anymore. Not since it gave weapons to Ukraine.
Also Austria is a little bitch of Germany, so whatever Germans would want, Austria will do, so sonner or later Glock will be purchased by a German company.
What Glock needs to do is put some of that money toward lawsuits, get the Hughes Amendment repealed and make more Glock 18s.
But in all reality what Glock should do is take a page out of SIG's book and make their next line of Glocks with the removable trigger pack. That way the TRIGGER PACK is the firearm. You can put the pack in different pistol chassis, you can make a PDW/SMG chassis, etc etc. Perfect a Glock trigger pack and then just build around that. A modular Glock. Especially since militaries are going toward modularity and more "do it all" things these days.
This story sounds a lot like Harley Davidson a couple of decades ago. Harley chose to extract a much value as possible from familiar designs and their brand. They allowed their existing customers to herd them into a narrow market segment so long they seem incapable of innovation now.
Oh yeah, that's a good example. Should have thought of that one.
Except Harleys were always a piece of shit and glocks run reliably...
And Harley has gone woke and is alienating their customer base.
@@jimcoon Japanese bikes are better and always have been. Harleys are for fudds.
Wow..this is really the first gun channel that I have seen with high quality cinematic footage with great color grading...eye candy.
Is that really true?
@@T.REXLabsnah, Larry Vickers did it first
Extraordinary historical overview, current analysis, and ideas for future plans. If you were a consultant you just donated about $100k in services!
I’ve owned Glocks all my life but recently bought a Shadow System MR920P and absolutely love it, I’ve kinda forgotten I own 5 Glocks that aren’t getting any attention now .
For sure. Shadow Systems perfected perfection with their foundation series.
Polymer80 > Shadowsystem........ The frames are almost identical, and you can put whatever parts you want in each.... P80 for the win!!
Sounds like you got one of the ones that work.
Shadow systems=expensive unreliable gluck clone.
@@danielweissenborn3508lol if you like unreliable clones
Glock was my first polymer frame pistol... It's now my least used. The not-a-glocks that are out there now are doing it so much better, at least feature-wise.
They need to make a PCC about the same size as a Flux Raider which takes their G19 mags and uses the G17L barrel. They would make more money than the bank.
b&t usw17
@@chrisgs8727 b&t =/= Glock
I've always said they need to create a custom shop. If you want a glock 19 with or without finger grooves, with or without front slide serrations. Bring back the rtf texture. Create metal iron sights (believe it or not, some of us actually like the design of the factory glock sights).
Agreed. Pdw's , rotating barrel actions,fcu's and factory porting or comps. Maybe perfecting the bullpup pistol design.
Glock 46 has the rotating barrel but they dont sell it to civilians.
Glock has factory comp pistols lol
Maintenance (in this case the absence of it being needed very often) and the fact that they all “drive the same way”. Summer, winter, spring and fall, range time at least monthly, it got sweated on and rained on and was cleaned when I remembered to do it……at least once a year. Those two things are still is a huge draw for me. I carried my G19 tucked in my pants for many years and it never rusted and always went “bang” when the trigger was pulled. I recently changed to a G48 when the 15 round mags were pretty much perfected.
I would love to see Glock Inc branch out more.
Obviously they are privately held like Sig (so who knows what their EBIT margin is) but I would imagine that with the amount of commercial sales and local/federal govt contracts, they are not just scraping by. Point being is that they likely have the free cash to fund more R&D and vertically integrate more with whatever they end up doing.
They make great firearms. It'd be awesome to see a "Glock Custom Works", long arms or PCC.
**Spoiler Alert: it is very easy to say what someone else should do with their money and Glock will probably just continue to make the same gun and bring back finger grooves in Gen6.**
Same here.... I like their handguns just the way they are , but I do think they need to branch off to make other weapons..
You should look into their horse related product line..
With magazine technology the way it's going, my prediction would be Glock 19 and 17 sized handguns that hold 17 and 20 rounds respectively, and are the same width as a Glock 48.
The apparent structure of the company when I researched it was such that Gaston had final say on EVERYTHING, so in my mind the fact that Glock hasn't quite caught up with other companies seems to be from Gaston's stubbornness, which is supported by his son, who left the company because he found it intolerable to work under him, and his daughter, who did not leave, but indicated that he was a type A personality.
Way I see it, this is going to make way like Ruger, where when the old man passed, Ruger began really innovating and experimenting with new designs and ideas. As great as he was, Gaston was a significant roadblock in bringing Glock pistols into modern contexts. Now his wife is at the helm (who is like 30 years younger than he was by the way) and hopefully she can greenlight some real innovation.
I’m really hopeful that’s true. Even if it’s just small changes that just make sense like removing the hump/excessive curve on the backstrap via better designed removable backstrap system or complete redesign of the frames outer geometry, metal sights standard and improved slide release levers. For big changes I’d like to see a removable FCU. I’d probably dump my 320 for an FCU Glock and I really like my 320.
shes been making watches. not gonna lie, i like them. the special one i saw comes with a miniature "green" gun case (that classic green you see every glock 18 lower colored in video games look like, think CSGO or MW2). Swiss movement, they look clean, and take some design queues from the pistols (one of the second hand faces looks like the back of a 9mm casing, the crown has a little circle dot reticle on it, the bands / metals parody popular lower / upper color combinations, and there are "slide cuts" on the bezel of some models). They cost about as much as the gun. I like watches personally, but its kinda weird. I hope the jewelry stuff the wife is doing doesn't take away from anything else, and they genuinely seem like high quality, unlike when Smith and Wesson make knives and stuff, which is way more like a cheap shoddy product trying to sell off of brand name alone.
I came here to say the same thing, I hope Glock now has a Ruger style Renaissance...
Type A?
@@nono-jj9rr Demanding, someone who likes things done one way and no other.
Glock needs to hire you as a consultant lol
We all know the changes that Glock needs to make. 1. High-performance trigger. 2. Great sights. 3. A Glock 43-size pistol holding 15 rounds.
I really hope Glock watches your Fighting Pistol video and takes the concepts to heart.
I actually think they can keep the status quo going for a pretty long time, and they probably will. Small enhancements to the gen 6, 7, 8, etc., will probably keep them making money for the next 25-50 years.
I disagree. The only thing they have left is reliability. They are no longer ergonomic modular innovators. They are thicker, heavier, more expensive, and less modular than their competitors. They are reliable dinosaurs, but compared to the innovation of the Hellcat/Hellcat pro, the p365 line, the p320 line, and m&p 2.0s they are WAY behind. By the time you add a comp, a new trigger, non polymer mags, an optic cut, and a magwell you are paying twice what you would pay for one of the competitors and STILL getting a worse product.
If glocks didnt have the name brand and reputation of reliability they would have already gone under. If you deleted Glock from the timeline and added it back in this current market NO ONE would buy them. The only good thing about Glock is reliability.
@@seraph...4473Sig is a meme, shadow systems is a meme. I agree about the m&p 2.0, shot one recently with an apex trigger and loved it.
However I’d only trust a Glock or an old school Sig p228/226
@@Sercer25 but those guns you mentioned are so big. Why cant Glock just make us a gun we can trust with 17rds in the mag that is the size of the Hellcat Pro or G43X?
@@seraph...4473 I would think they're considering it, but I think the limitations of polymer and longetivity with the mags might be something they have to figure out.
G19 is still my go to. I can conceal it pretty well.
@@Sercer25 Thats probably why yeah. Being married to polymer mags like that just doesnt make sense to me.
I bought a range gun that a local range decided it was time to replace. I took it completely apart and cleaned all the gunk out and the internals look almost new. That gun went on to become a custom with all the bells and whistles. Who knows how many rounds it’s had through it. Thousands and thousands I’m sure. It’s still going strong.
Different connectors in Gen 3 and Gen 4. I prefer the "5.5 lb" connector in the gen 3. Heavier but more crisp. Lighter weight connectors have a more rolling break. I would like to try the new pre-cocked trigger from glock. Maybe a modified version from Johnny Glock.
Kudos to you, I hadn't even considered leaning into a company's legacy as a viable move. But, I think it would be prudent for the company to do now that Gaston has passed.
Life has taught me one BIG lesson, don't fix something that isn't broke.
How does that work with windshield wipers?
It's broke alright!!! The market has caught up and has overtaken them.
Just because a caveman’s rock hasn’t broken, doesn’t mean a hammer wouldn’t improve his life.
Just cuz the horse and chariot wasn’t broken, doesn’t mean the automobile was a poor idea.
“If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it,” is a broken saying. Let’s fix it:
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it… improve it a little instead.”
K. I’m done being a smart alec. (Not the Baldwin kind. Just any kind.)
@@Spidey_Ethan JFC you are an American Idiot and its brightest star.
@@kevinrtres ok, what major upgrade did their competitor have over Glocks, other then ergonomics?
keep doing what you have been doing since the start ! your perfect !
I have all Generations of most Glock models. Gen 3 is perfection once I removed the finger grooves lol
Gen3 superiority confirmed.
Sooo Gen 5
excellent exposition. I learned a lot about the business side of the gun industry.
Where do you internet commandos come up with this crap!? Glock has, and will always be KING. They are going anywhere, and nothing AT ALL is uncertain.
That's exactly what everyone said about Colt.
@@T.REXLabs maybe when their competitors first makes an prototype model that is undeniable, there is no first mover advantage, Glock compiled features that are undeniable improvements, when others simply ignored them, and made the Glock, but currently, there is no clear next step that will revolutionize the pistol industry, maybe an rifle round, carbon fiber frame, titanium slide, or something like that, but conditions haven't been met yet for those things to be cheap enough
Glock needs to (1) stop using the polymer sights, (2) develop their own Glock “shield arms” mag that is backwards compatible with older Glock magazines, (3) cut down the length of pull on their pistols again which I think would make their designs much easier to shoot for smaller hand people
This is a great video. I’m a huge Glock fan and I hope that they make the right decision and go down the right path. One thing I know if I was the owner of Glock I would try to hire you because you seem like you have an appreciation for the platform. I know and understand there’s only so much that you can do to a handgun as far as making it more ergonomic and adding more features but being the guardians over the platform seems like a great idea because there are so many Glock clones out there if Glock can be the guardian of that And open things up I think that can be a great step in the right direction like you said
I'd say just about nobody else, in the comments or out could say it better than he just did. Those are the options an i pray they take the former or the latter , for their sake and ours! Excellent video as per usual, keep up the amazing work man! ❤✌️😎
Don’t change a thing glock, you’re perfect!
I feel the same. If people want all these changes send it to places like Taran, Zev and Agency to change it into what you want.
It's not flashy, but it works, and there's something to be said for a company that makes possibly THE most reliable handgun ever made while all the other companies that are constantly changing things tend to have issues. There's something to the adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
The only thing I would want them to change is to go full ambidextrous on all their models.
"Get a Glock. Glock is perfection!"
"Where's your Glock?"
"I sent it back to Glock to fix the trigger, the extractor, the mag well, the sights, and have it milled for a red dot."
those things are personal preference, you know, something Glock allows, Glock perfection, means the perfect gun for the individual, since there's no way to make an stock perfect gun, someone will always want an minor change
Definitely enjoy these topics. Thanks for spending the money to educate us all.
NOTHING electronic belongs in the fire control of a small arm, ESPECIALLY a handgun; that introduces significant failure conditions that will NEVER plague a strictly mechanical design.
I love the Glock. I love the simplicity of it.
Honestly, glocks don’t need a ton of innovation. They own the market and their longevity is partly due to the simplicity of design. Making a separate FCU adds more parts that can lead to failure. The Glock handgun is perfect for what it was designed to be, a combat pistol. The only thing I would hope for would be to ditch the MOS system and just cut everything for RMR. Other than that,
Leave it alone and continue to make reliable firearms.
Glock does NOT own the market.
What made us switch from Glock to S&W M&P was how we could get the mid-side M&P, add a sleeve to the full size mag which marries perfectly with the grip, and now you have what essentially is now the Glock 45. However, if one has to start carrying a more concealable weapon, just use the mid size mags. It's two in one. If you want that capability with a Glock, you have to buy a G45 and a G19. Someone over at Glock needs get with the program of actually innovating like Smith did, they'd sell like crazy!
Hmm... It's not ideal, but a Glock mag sleeve would be a fun thing to tinker with.
Honestly I would love to see a fire control unit like how SIG and Springfield have and be able to customize caliber and size
There are plenty of other manufacturers that offer removable fire control groups, "non-Glock" grip angles, and factory night sights. Some of us have been shooting Glock grip angles for a long time and prefer them. Some of us have also found what we like and don't care about/feel the need to swap between 3-4 grip modules. A 43X/48 or 26 for concealed carry and a 19/17 for less concealed use or larger folks works. Some of us know what we like and would rather not pay extra for sights we're just going to replace anyway.
All I'd want, maybe, would be metal mags to bump capacity and/or allow a slightly smaller circumference grip. The rest is fine with me and I'd hazard to say a great many others as well. Simply copying other manufacturers isn't innovation anyway.
You can argue the innovation was already done by competition. Why release Glock with all the mods stock for 600-700 when u can get a snare dagger for less?
This man just did a video application for the new CEO position that just opened up. 😝
Subguns, machine guns, Ergos like CZ, bolt guns, etc. Essentially anything!!
I’m halfway through this, and I think they should just continue along the current path. Listen to the customer. Innovate when it’s demanded. Otherwise, don’t change a thing.
I would drop a good amount of money for a Cyberpunk Glock
I too favor the G17 gen3. I also edc a G43X, my fun gun is a G44. Now I'm a retired law enforcement officer of 30+years and my duty weapon up until retirement was a G22 gen4 a great gun. I had texting driver forever changed my life. I could no longer retract the slide on my beloved G22, so I sold and purchased the G17 gen3 and the slide is more manageable. However I feel their pistols don't need a change, I would like to see a pistol caliber carbine by Glock.
gen 3 17 is the first gun I bought. there is no other handgun that shoots as well, maybe besides the gen 5. What glock should do is release that AR they did for British MoD
I’m not really a Glock fan but this I will say. They are excellent firearms. They are extremely durable and well made. I just don’t shoot them well compared to other manufacturers. I hope they stay in business and I hope they thrive.
The main things I would love to see from Glock:
1: have an option for American grip angles (this is the only reason I don’t own a Glock)
2: semi-custom shop x slide, x frame, x optic cut, threaded barrel, etc. with reasonable pricing for options.
3: steel mags for increased capacity… yeah, your polymer is great, but you could fit so many more rounds in the exact same footprint. (At least make it an option)
What’s an American grip angle?
@@Hornet135 most grip angles are either closer to the 1911 at ~16° or closer to the Glock and other European manufacturers at closer to ~21°. It’s not strictly “American” since sig and Cz both have lots of guns with that 1911 style grip angle, but it’s commonly referred to as the American grip angle. Getting a sight picture on a gun with the grip angle of the Glock is not intuitive for a lot of people, myself included. I can get a good quick sight picture on pretty much any “American” angled pistol, where with Glocks etc there’s an initial adjustment to get the sights lines up.
Man, I love this channel. Pre-production is so good.
Glock needs to go the FCG route so that they can sell a single FCG module each for their large frames, their doublestacks, and their single stack offerings, and then focus on incremental improvements to their product lines through modularity like Sig has done. They also need to get off the polymer mag train and produce OEM steel mags that hold more rounds across all of their models. The aftermarket has been eating their lunch and making the 43x/48 viable options in the micro 9mm carry market with better mags. WIthout them I don't think the single stack glocks would be anywhere near as popular as they've remained.
Glock 50
5” 10mm
It actually makes sense this time
26x
26xs with like a 43 slide
30sgen5
17l/24 gen 5
Bigger mags for 10 and .45
Gen 6: selector switches on everything
18/18c gen5
20c gen5
Most "innovations" these days are just bullshit anyway.
The only thing I "need to" change on my Glocks are the sights. The Gen 5 trigger is fine for duty use. I like the grip angle. Glock will not and should not change it. I understand why people don't like the grip angle - fine, don't buy a Glock.
If I want an optic, direct milled is best. Ditch the MOS. It's crap and I sure don't want to use plastic plates.
Glocks are good guns, magazines are inexpensive. They'll be fine.
I mostly agree. There are some small tweaks that could be made, but that's been exactly what the generation changes have encompassed. Perhaps the only meaningful improvements that have been made are capacity for smaller guns (like the P365) or removable fire control groups. Everything else is a wash, or a matter of opinion.
Some people (like myself) keep buying Glocks because we understand that the bleeding edge of "innovation" these days is mostly just breaking things that used to work fine, all to try to differentiate themselves from Glock. I'd much rather maintain magazine compatibility, holster compatibility, and reliability than try to reinvent the wheel for no meaningful gain.
I like my gen 3 and I think they are still the most reliable version of the Glock pistol. They should keep the OG design but also make something new and innovative that looks nothing like a Glock. Give it amazing ergonomics and get rid of the block shaped slide with something more sculpted and cool looking. Design a metal high cap magazine that works in the old stuff.
I actually like the simple spartan look of it, but a lot of people don't. The ergonomics could use some improvements though. They need something incredibly thin for CCW that still has a pretty high capacity.
A PCC that is good and affordable would sell like crazy. They should also mass produce the AR style rife that they made a prototype of.
They should also start making AR stocks with their proprietary polymer. Including some of those precision rifle type stocks, and even make some polymer chassis systems for some of the popular bolt actions like the Remington 700 and the Tikka. As long as they were good designs these things would sell just for being Glock. Once the molds are made and everything is set up I think many of these things are pretty quick and cheap to make. Magpul wouldn't be too happy about it.
One big issue that wasn’t talked about is the fact that Glock charges you extra for feature that come standard on other guns; like picatinny rail, stippling, optic cut. You gotta get the Glock 43x /mos/ pro/ competition….to get those features.
If they make the best most reliable gun, why change? The 1911 still has legs, the 2011 is really just a minor modification of the design. Since most manufacturers keep changing their designs, Glocks conservatism is a good thing. Whether the company is successful or not, who cares? If you care about their success, then you like Glock, therefore Glock should not change.
Electronic triggers is the worse idea ever. Anything electronic will malfunction. I know you make a living playing with guns. But you’ve never been in a gunfight. It’s a different world. There’s far more that can be done to improve a gun than electronics and gizmos. That’s pretty ridiculous.
Can you give some examples of what can be improved?
Still rocking irons, I assume?
While I agree on the triggers bit, sometimes you have to experiment with “ridiculous” ideas in order to make something awesome later. Kinda like plastic guns. Who the heck would buy a gun made of plastic? Oh wait.
Let R&D breathe and stretch its wings a bit. You may be surprised.
@@Spidey_Ethan ok, so what are the supposed benefits of an electronic trigger
Listening to the innovation section, I hope they stick with making the same gun over and over. It works.
Not that $1.1 Billion isn’t incredible amount of wealth but I would have thought Gaston Glock would have been much wealthier than that.
I mean, just another great video you guys are killing it man. Thanks and keep it. Keep it up.
- Better triggers (PDP wins)
- Modular trigger system (Sig wins, Springfield coming 2nd)
- More slide serration ergonomics (Shadow Systems wins)
And yet in sales, they don't win. Glock dominates both contracts and civilian sales.
The Colt analogy is spot on!!!
What maintenance have you done on the gen 3 after having it so long?
I replaced the night sights after the tritium lamps on the originals were completely dead. I think that's about it.
@@isaacbotkintrexdid you mean to comment with your personal account?
@@Triple259772it's my Glock he's asking about, so yeah.
@@isaacbotkintrex oh gotcha, wasnt sure if it was on purpose. Thought you were accidentally scrolling the comments on your private account.
You never know is posting on the official accounts. It could be anybody!
I think companies like Shadow Systems is going to keep taking market share from them unless they innovate. If they don’t innovate they will become like Colt.
Excellent presentation, thank you
this channel is amazing
Glock should get rid of their dumb ass naming convention. Glock 17, 17L, 34,19,26,43,43x,48,48x, are all 9mm. 44 is a 22lr, give me a break!! All Glocks should have light rails and optic cuts. The trigger sucks, I upgraded my Glock trigger by buying a PPQ. They need more 22lr & 380 models to attract younger and female shooter's. If they don't change there are other good gun companies
Why would glock come out with some new ground breaking technology? They don’t need to. What would you improve? You can’t just reinvent the wheel every 50 years just because you’re “bored” with the technology.
The answer is simple...keep making the classic, slight improvements....while also doing true innovation on something new.
It's great to see a TREX video hosted by an actual adult who doesn't engage in smarmy callouts of other creators. It's almost as if the whole issue circles around a single person at the company...
You Lucas haters sure love to engage with the content and his brand
@@TheHashtagSquad2K15 I dislike him because he's petty, childish, and unprofessional- for some reason he thinks everyone has issues with his values when it's really his shitty attitude. I love TREX and their helpful content, but Lucas is not the person to center their company's image upon.
@@MatthewKimbleconsidering it’s his company it might be hard to kick out the owner and founder…
I think they’ll probably start to listen to their customers more. It’s the safest thing for them to do while they gear up for choosing a path.
Even some minor changes (like grip relief or undercuts) would buy them some goodwill.
Folks who shoot Glocks a lot usually wind up making some changes to them to suit them better. If Glock started offering some of that stuff for minor upcharges, that would probably help them consider the costs and benefits of true innovation.
Think like opening a Smith and Wesson Performance Center-style division that gets customer feedback and incorporates it into relatively minor changes just before products leave the factory that cost a bit more than the base model, but save time and money doing modifications (or having them done) after purchase.
They need to come out with short barrel pistol caliber carbines.
For now they could R&D:
- better durable sights
- drimmel of the armpit between trigger guard and grip
- double stack mags
- PCC (pistol caliber carabine)
- FPC (foldable pistol caliber)
Well it's far from Perfection, I can tell you that 😂
well, you're meant to modify it to your preference, also, the base stock is more then capable enough
first, i’m grateful for everything the botkin brothers are willing to share. second, it could be a second sea change if glock was able to redesign their trigger to pull like the 1911 - straight back, rather than hinged. certain there’s much more.
Glocks are useful, and I like that.