BWV 979 - Concerto Transcription in B Minor after Torelli

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  • @Ed_UKation
    @Ed_UKation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Very enjoyable. The original piece is now RV 813. After some earlier confusion, it's been found to be by Antonio Vivaldi. Listening to the original Concerto, this makes sense, it has many features of early Vivaldi.

    • @marcocampus7943
      @marcocampus7943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RV 813, or Anh 10

    • @Ed_UKation
      @Ed_UKation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@marcocampus7943 it used to be Anh 10, when its authenticity as Vivaldi was unclear. RV 813 is the latest categorisation.

    • @moltzer
      @moltzer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcocampus7943"Anh" is used when there is uncertainty.

    • @ВалераМедведев-м6в
      @ВалераМедведев-м6в 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Я тоже почему то подумал,что слишком похоже на Вивальди,но.....

    • @ВалераМедведев-м6в
      @ВалераМедведев-м6в 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Прошли века,и кто у кого передирал ...время несправедливо, одни в тени другие на солнышке...

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The final Allegro is amazing.

  • @aurora_stream
    @aurora_stream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:53 - 3:11 is simply gorgeous

  • @titobergamaschi3778
    @titobergamaschi3778 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It is one of my favourite channels!!!

  • @ZachDrake5960
    @ZachDrake5960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The greatest thing I found in this concerto is how the tension tightens and loosens throughout, with no resolution until the very end.

  • @taudou
    @taudou 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Toujours un bonheur ;)
    Sur la paternité du concerto, les avis divergent...
    En tout cas, thanks a lot Mister "Geru"

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:42 Chopin ballade 4 final chords

  • @SorenxD123
    @SorenxD123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the bass at 1:03 - it's almost cartoonishly (and hilariously) "evil"-sounding.

  • @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454
    @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for uploading!

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:19 Mozart Requiem

  • @Asiek
    @Asiek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:29 Sound like RV 578

  • @Nooticus
    @Nooticus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Geru, please change the TH-cam title as this is now confirmed as being after Vivaldi RV 813!

  • @elibenicio5408
    @elibenicio5408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nao é de Vivaldi esse tema ??? Porque after Torelli ??

  • @titobergamaschi3778
    @titobergamaschi3778 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic!

  • @mereyeslacalle
    @mereyeslacalle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    El original de ese concierto , la fuente de la belleza es de Vivaldi : "Concerto for violin, strings & b.c. in D minor. RV 813" . Por tanto es BWV979 after Vivaldi . Torelli ???? , para nada !!

  • @ruperttmls7985
    @ruperttmls7985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Todos los comentarios abajo que señalan que los “expertos” dicen que es de Vivaldi y no de Torelli, yo les preguntaría además del evidente hecho de que no suena para nada a Vivaldi: cuantos conciertos de Vivaldi conocen con 7 u 8 tempos/movimientos diferentes?

    • @elinathanferlay1013
      @elinathanferlay1013 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's exactly why it is considered as an extremely early Vivaldi work (1705-1710), and not a mature one, since it presents features of Vivaldi's early concertos that aren't present in later concertos (the loose structure with a great number of movements neing one of them).

    • @ana-ch3ie
      @ana-ch3ie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      El andante me hace recordar a la seccion transitoria del concierto para 4 violines en si menor...

  • @vesteel
    @vesteel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is actually by Vivaldi RV Anh. 10 and was wrongly attributed to Torelli

    • @user-uz7gb7gb4v
      @user-uz7gb7gb4v 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Formerly Anh. 10, now authenticated enough (at least to Ryom's satisfaction) to be designated RV 813.

    • @TheShadowPerson.
      @TheShadowPerson. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Poor Vivaldi.

    • @SDGRTX1455
      @SDGRTX1455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How much difference does it sound from the original piece from Vivaldi?

    • @andreainzaghi7373
      @andreainzaghi7373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      could also be a Torelli doctorated

    • @alaaobaid3363
      @alaaobaid3363 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@louiscouperin3731This screams Vivaldi for me

  • @chrissherman9795
    @chrissherman9795 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What were the red notes about at 3:10? Were they just altered in this performance?

    • @stefanocrosazzo3262
      @stefanocrosazzo3262 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I imagine Mme Dreyfus was using an edition different from that shown here in the video. It is very common for old editions of ancient and Baroque music to have little differencies between each other.

  • @3yahweh3
    @3yahweh3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:18 ... eddy #1

  • @Mau365PP
    @Mau365PP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:54

  • @3yahweh3
    @3yahweh3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:53 … eddy #1

  • @3yahweh3
    @3yahweh3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:39 ... eddy #2

  • @mislavbozic9282
    @mislavbozic9282 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @anisometropie
    @anisometropie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A static sheet is much more easy to read for me, but if you really want to make it scrolling, you really need to use 60fps, a scrolling sheet of music looks stuttering and blurry at this rate.

    • @dominuscz3681
      @dominuscz3681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just increase the replay speed to get more fps

    • @authenticmusic4815
      @authenticmusic4815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dominuscz3681 lmao

  • @12semitones57
    @12semitones57 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did Bach ever had perfect pitch? Do you need that skill in order to become a good musician or composer?

    • @user-uz7gb7gb4v
      @user-uz7gb7gb4v 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bach and many of the great composers had absolute (or perfect) pitch, but not all, and it's not a necessary condition in order to become a good musician. It's very helpful, though.
      Also, people whose native language is tonal (e.g. Chinese, Yoruba) are much more likely to have perfect pitch.

    • @ecout00
      @ecout00 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan Truong It is not necessary, and can be acquired with sufficient study.

    • @user-uz7gb7gb4v
      @user-uz7gb7gb4v 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ethan Gainer That's a matter of some contention. I've heard some people say it can definitely be trained, and others say it definitely can't be trained (after a critical period in infancy).
      I don't know what the true answer is, but my guess is that some people can learn it even late in life.
      The language connection (as discovered by Diana Deutsch) is possibly a good clue: most people's language learning ability declines after childhood, but some can still learn languages perfectly later on. I'm guessing the perfect pitch situation is similar.

    • @Mau365PP
      @Mau365PP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beethoven was deaf so... not really. You have to be really smart tho

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which pitch? There were several pitch standards Bach encountered. Do you think he was born with his ears tuned to Renaissance wind pitch, choir pitch and organ pitch (around A465)? Chamber pitch (around A415)? Deep chamber pitch (around A392)? Or do you think he was born with his ears tuned to modern concert pitch (A440)?

  • @nocnyptak6877
    @nocnyptak6877 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    B or D?

    • @xbqchm
      @xbqchm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      B *and* D

    • @nocnyptak6877
      @nocnyptak6877 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, I see

  • @thomasdastillung4097
    @thomasdastillung4097 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does not sound like estro armonico. Esstravaganza or 4 seasons. Could be Vivaldi. Could be sb else. If thé experts says so...

    • @alaaobaid3363
      @alaaobaid3363 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's Vivaldi

  • @mrs_monon8104
    @mrs_monon8104 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:54

  • @3yahweh3
    @3yahweh3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:48 ... eddy #3