@@alanwilson3572 Benthic bloom's main downside is that you will have fewer white and green items, and you won't be able to reliably get stacks of important ones like speed items Growth nectar solves that by giving you a lump sum of stats, including health, speed, and damage, making white items largely unnecessary as long as you can keep up a few buffs, which shouldn't be too hard as you just need any buff
@alanwilson3572 The red pool used to lack fundamentals like movement speed, crit, all the stats you accumulate in a standard run. Picking up unique utility items with a Benthic Bloom to roll them into Growth Nectar suddenly gives Benthic Bloom pretty much everything the red pool was missing. Also nectar's stacking (something Benthic can enable) is ludicrously insane. 1 fully utilized stack of nectar = 2.8 Irradiant Pearls, 2 fully utilized stacks of nectar = *11.2 Irradiant Pearls* and so on.
@@pbToast03 Clarifying GNectar has exponential (or something) growth in potential becuase both number of buffs counted, and payout per buff stack. And you *can* get stacks when Benthic is in the picture
didnt say, but warped echo activates with blood shrines + void pots, often times i use this to get cash/void items and avoid losing watches/elixers when the shrine is at 75%, or the void pots when im already missing hp
I think the only detail that should be added to Longstanding Solitudes' section is that the item *changes how the experience formula for leveling up works*. Level exp requirements stop growing exponentially, which is WHY you can suddenly level up like crazy, it's not because the exp from gold is too much, it's because the levels take way less exp to reach. I didn't know about this at first, which is why I was once a hater. Not anymore.
@@Zarphon The item has you leveling up about the same speed no matter the level. The gold necessary scales with time to the point that the levels are just free. Starting out it feels slower with no gold gaining items but you slowly feel the shear health and damage over the run.
Another comment on growth nectar, this makes stone pauldron/shaped glass runs far easier because the movement speed is easily negated by any speed increasing items working off of your now-higher base speed, despite the 50% reduction. This is pushed even further by the higher base health and damage that both weaken the downside and strengthen the upside of shaped glass, even if only a little bit.
guys bolstering lantern is amazing but be careful if you're relying on eccentric vase to pillar skip, it's bugged and will stop the vase tunnel at the edge of your lantern radius.
13:36 sorry, sorry, are we just gonna glance over the fucking double charged perforators???? The fuck??? Goated ass luck, a tragedy you didn’t get that in an actual run
additional mult luminous info: I did a run with double rebar power mode once and found that not only for some reason was I able to both build and ACTIVATE luminous shot with my power mode r2, with a bit of attack speed I was essentially calling down lightning strikes every few seconds. that build might take a while to get going and it's not as consistent as charging luminous with the saw but it was immensely satisfying once I had the movement and attack speed to become a walking death machine
i love bolstering lantern because it's one of the few items that actually gives you incentive to purchase drones (another one being spare drone parts, of course)
The only thing i disagree with is sonorous whispers. In a normal non-loop run in order to get the most of this item you need to get it early and it still doesn't give you a lot. Getting it out of a legendary chest on stage 4 is basically a waste of a red item, the most you'll get out of it will be some white items that probably won't make a difference.
Could you explain what you mean at 9:56? Do you get 28% more stats than you would have when you scrap prayer beads when you have a growth nectar at max?
Longstanding Solitude felt great until I realized that I was level 99 inside of the Gilded Coast with no way to activate the beacons (this was about a month ago so idk if this was patched out)
warped echo can be reset by blast shower if i remember correctly, unlike opal also for some reason brittle crown gives wayy less xp with solitude than just a single ghor's tome
if you are talking about the shrines that take you to aurelionite then it shouldn't since it still counts as a "purchase". I am not 100% certain though.
Well, at least we've got the concepts down. Now we can start tweaking the numbers for balance… It took 4 months after launch to make good item concepts.
Anyone had problems with spawn rate? i got to stage 5 ( not too late ) and literally couldnt clear it because the enemies were spawning without stopping
Me and my mates recently banned both unstable and warbonds with mods and the game has become fun again. Those two just make the game to easy. Like why is a wisp more terrifying than mithrix if i have war bonds? And for good players an unstable feels like a free win
Wow I predicted a good chunk of these changes, but some of them surprised me too I'm glad they're actually getting around to making the items better, my buddies and I haven't played ROR2 in a long time Still don't like Longstanding Solitude though >:( at least in Multiplayer
There's not a single run i've lost when i pikc up transmitter. Why is it dio's but on a cooldown. Why is it literally like at least 15 times better than dio's. What the fuck does Dio's even do nowadays...
yeah nice tierlist buddy, now prepare yourself to make another one when they re-balance on the next patch. ALSO YOU DIDNT MENTION THAT SEED OF LIFE WORKS ON EQUIPMENT DRONES, THAT IS INSANE, LITERALLY GOTY OF THE YEAR ITEM
Warped echo is still scrap.. look the fact you take *more hits* without futher redusing the damage means you take more.. and it only has one synergy with razor.. aaand thats litterally it Edit: even in self harm builds its useless cause hell's tinkture exist (aka the self burn item) as it has faster ticks
I know when you found out about the elusive antlers change you were mad it was just gonna become another speed item. But honestly I think having to pick up the orbs is pretty fun so now I wish energy drink and goat hoof were nore interesting
I think that it would've been cool if instead of giving you tons and tons of movement speed it could give barrier and movement. Obviously the stats would be small on each and the barrier would probably decay very quickly but it'd encourage topaz broach and aegis use.
Yes. Antler Shield was objectively the worst item from the new DLC, as it requires you to take damage to have a chance to proc it. If you had fun with it, congratulations, you're in the minority, but it was not good.
@EeeJayPopp You're not. Eclipse 8 knobslobberers don't like interesting items and would rather completely replace it than give it a real chance. Unfortunately, those types are 90% of the youtube scene and therefore 90% of the influence on the devs Literally all it took was one mod that kept the concept and allowed tweaking its stats to make it both fun and strong in a way Razorwire does not emulate
Stream tomorrow??? Pog!
www.twitch.tv/rndthursday
yes.
Potentially another 7hr of Balatro?
One niche use about Prayer Beads, like a silver lining, is that Mithrix last phase removes the item, thus granting you its stats
Growth Nectar gets bonus points for making benthic astronomically more viable
benthicc sweeps with new growth nectar
Wait how does it work?
@@alanwilson3572 Benthic bloom's main downside is that you will have fewer white and green items, and you won't be able to reliably get stacks of important ones like speed items
Growth nectar solves that by giving you a lump sum of stats, including health, speed, and damage, making white items largely unnecessary as long as you can keep up a few buffs, which shouldn't be too hard as you just need any buff
@alanwilson3572 The red pool used to lack fundamentals like movement speed, crit, all the stats you accumulate in a standard run. Picking up unique utility items with a Benthic Bloom to roll them into Growth Nectar suddenly gives Benthic Bloom pretty much everything the red pool was missing.
Also nectar's stacking (something Benthic can enable) is ludicrously insane. 1 fully utilized stack of nectar = 2.8 Irradiant Pearls, 2 fully utilized stacks of nectar = *11.2 Irradiant Pearls* and so on.
@@pbToast03 Clarifying GNectar has exponential (or something) growth in potential becuase both number of buffs counted, and payout per buff stack.
And you *can* get stacks when Benthic is in the picture
I saw that noxious thorns is so good it actually makes blight a viable choice now with how it stacks
NO.
no, nothing is saving blight.
blight is now goo.. 🤢🤢🤢 bleh, sorry. blight is now gugggg 🤢🤢🤢 ugg, i cant even say it ... bligh🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Most people rejected His message
They hated Jesus because
He told them the truth
Gal. 4:16
That makes 0 sense
Yeah okay bud.
watch ur tone blobfart
@@rndThursdayyou’re*
Keep your tonal implications in sight, slime excrement
@@yamnbam4346 😨
@@yamnbam4346this is just wrong
13:37 two charged perforators from a single shrine is absolutely unbelievable
crazy work
didnt say, but warped echo activates with blood shrines + void pots, often times i use this to get cash/void items and avoid losing watches/elixers when the shrine is at 75%, or the void pots when im already missing hp
I love being able to use 75% blood shrines, very nice for looting speed
I think the only detail that should be added to Longstanding Solitudes' section is that the item *changes how the experience formula for leveling up works*. Level exp requirements stop growing exponentially, which is WHY you can suddenly level up like crazy, it's not because the exp from gold is too much, it's because the levels take way less exp to reach.
I didn't know about this at first, which is why I was once a hater. Not anymore.
This video failed to convince me about Longstanding Solitude, this comment however may have. Gonna give it a try on my next run.
@@Zarphon The item has you leveling up about the same speed no matter the level. The gold necessary scales with time to the point that the levels are just free. Starting out it feels slower with no gold gaining items but you slowly feel the shear health and damage over the run.
Its time to nerf red whip
finally
Honestly I love War Bonds so much now, it is so funny launching a damn orbital barrage on the random beetle queen that shows up 4 loops in
Good video and goated tier list!
Now, i'll watch de video
b a s e d
Warbonds also will activate whenever you see a scavenger for some reason
AND longstanding solitude is even more op in multiplayer
Another comment on growth nectar, this makes stone pauldron/shaped glass runs far easier because the movement speed is easily negated by any speed increasing items working off of your now-higher base speed, despite the 50% reduction. This is pushed even further by the higher base health and damage that both weaken the downside and strengthen the upside of shaped glass, even if only a little bit.
0:17 we understand pedro
pedro is real for that
guys bolstering lantern is amazing but be careful if you're relying on eccentric vase to pillar skip, it's bugged and will stop the vase tunnel at the edge of your lantern radius.
this is a non issue, just keep stacking it until it's range reaches the arena and you're good
@yonsukas why didn't I think of this 😔
This comment isn't about the tier list but you smell good. Excellent work, gamer.
👃
13:36 sorry, sorry, are we just gonna glance over the fucking double charged perforators???? The fuck??? Goated ass luck, a tragedy you didn’t get that in an actual run
The quality of these videos man
out of this world
additional mult luminous info: I did a run with double rebar power mode once and found that not only for some reason was I able to both build and ACTIVATE luminous shot with my power mode r2, with a bit of attack speed I was essentially calling down lightning strikes every few seconds. that build might take a while to get going and it's not as consistent as charging luminous with the saw but it was immensely satisfying once I had the movement and attack speed to become a walking death machine
hearing cult of the lamb music in the background has caused me to want to get back up out of bed and go play it again
but what about how sale star doesnt work if I dont use it? didya think of that
fuck u got me
Another thing to mention about seed of life is that equipment drones can now resurrect the player
I love how the first message I see from a chatter is “I am pooping” 😂
This is one of the best games ever made
true and real
i love bolstering lantern because it's one of the few items that actually gives you incentive to purchase drones (another one being spare drone parts, of course)
War Bonds procs for every focus in the void fields for some reason too.
Goated pirate software reference 💀
🫣
The only thing i disagree with is sonorous whispers. In a normal non-loop run in order to get the most of this item you need to get it early and it still doesn't give you a lot. Getting it out of a legendary chest on stage 4 is basically a waste of a red item, the most you'll get out of it will be some white items that probably won't make a difference.
Could you explain what you mean at 9:56? Do you get 28% more stats than you would have when you scrap prayer beads when you have a growth nectar at max?
are you sure about the saw boomerang bug? i’ve seen runs with both of them and it doesn’t seem to work anymore
Longstanding Solitude felt great until I realized that I was level 99 inside of the Gilded Coast with no way to activate the beacons (this was about a month ago so idk if this was patched out)
aware (it wasnt)
warped echo can be reset by blast shower if i remember correctly, unlike opal
also for some reason brittle crown gives wayy less xp with solitude than just a single ghor's tome
Luminous shot works with groth nectar making it even better
does Longstanding Solitude make gold shrines impossible to use
if you are talking about the shrines that take you to aurelionite then it shouldn't since it still counts as a "purchase". I am not 100% certain though.
@nickwoodman9355 the new shrines that suck your gold
25:19 There actually is a change to sale star
It actually has a visual now.
I was hoping that the sale star that floats near you would burst and go flying around making funny noises like when you let lose an untied balloon
Man I remember I got long standing solitude and the crown and the game immediately leveled me up to 84 and I couldn't buy anything
Well, at least we've got the concepts down. Now we can start tweaking the numbers for balance…
It took 4 months after launch to make good item concepts.
It's Tuesday
mah boi
Great video
Appreciate it, king
Rnd, what are your thoughts on Seeker? Dont think i ever got my full explanation. I am THE Seeker guy
wait are shaped glass strats back with unstable transmitter?
they are so back
Warped echo looks like the strange coins from destiny
Cult of the lamb
Anyone had problems with spawn rate? i got to stage 5 ( not too late ) and literally couldnt clear it because the enemies were spawning without stopping
W tier list fr
frfr
Loader synergy w/ luminous shot not mentioned >:(
Peak tier list btw.
Me and my mates recently banned both unstable and warbonds with mods and the game has become fun again. Those two just make the game to easy. Like why is a wisp more terrifying than mithrix if i have war bonds? And for good players an unstable feels like a free win
Wouldn't Luminous Shot be really good on Rex? I feel like him having virtually no cool down on his M2 would lead to really it being really strong.
Is that cult of the lamb music? been a while since I've played
Wow I predicted a good chunk of these changes, but some of them surprised me too
I'm glad they're actually getting around to making the items better, my buddies and I haven't played ROR2 in a long time
Still don't like Longstanding Solitude though >:( at least in Multiplayer
When does/did this update release?
already out!
any chance you might play hyper light breaker soon, mr RND?
big chungus
why cant it ever be small
What happened to Xbox splitscreen?
Ok, this items are cool and all, but what if play with Bluetooth steering wheel?
Is H3AD-5T v2 dethroned?
Why was someone talking about pooping with pants on at the beginning
only way to poop tbh
Moment of silence for the antlers we lost 💔
Is this a recent thing or no because I'm a new risk player
within the last ~month
Is the stats and item descriptions modded?
modded fr (lookingglass)
31:45 I don't use my mouse…
Unstable transmitter should either be a red or consumable its so BS
What's the song at 3mins, I know it but I cant remember the name
I think it's from cult of the lamb
It's about time!
Hey Rnd you should have a look at ravager or nemesis enforcer the funnier of the two is definitely ravager
Balatro jokers tier list when?
coming soon since i mastered the game already
There's not a single run i've lost when i pikc up transmitter. Why is it dio's but on a cooldown. Why is it literally like at least 15 times better than dio's. What the fuck does Dio's even do nowadays...
yeah nice tierlist buddy, now prepare yourself to make another one when they re-balance on the next patch.
ALSO YOU DIDNT MENTION THAT SEED OF LIFE WORKS ON EQUIPMENT DRONES, THAT IS INSANE, LITERALLY GOTY OF THE YEAR ITEM
😈😈 ez 3rd tier list video
(im the worlds biggest equipment drone haters)
Didn't understand shit about chronic expansion and beads. Great vid though
meteor happened
Warped echo is still scrap.. look the fact you take *more hits* without futher redusing the damage means you take more.. and it only has one synergy with razor.. aaand thats litterally it
Edit: even in self harm builds its useless cause hell's tinkture exist (aka the self burn item) as it has faster ticks
How did you know i love watch mojo
23:32 BROOO
real
Engineer is just better commando if you really think about it
13:45 Is no one talking about the double cherf??? CHANCE DOLL S TIER
it took like 20+ mins and the first boss items that dropped was double cherf. crazy shi
Hello rndMonday
hello Airbigbawls
@rndThursday yes they are quite big indeed
nah they need to rework them again
💀 a 3rd list incoming
I know when you found out about the elusive antlers change you were mad it was just gonna become another speed item. But honestly I think having to pick up the orbs is pretty fun so now I wish energy drink and goat hoof were nore interesting
I think that it would've been cool if instead of giving you tons and tons of movement speed it could give barrier and movement. Obviously the stats would be small on each and the barrier would probably decay very quickly but it'd encourage topaz broach and aegis use.
Bison steak not S tier, L list 😒
hi thursday
Why do you sound like the old man doing an impression of you?
i am youthful and vigorous
pedro_u_ is pooping
legend has it, he still is
closure
openure
@@rndThursday manure?
Maybe its just me but i never feel very good with the move speed antlers. Im addicted to those energy drinks baby
me in real life (my heart is failing)
Am i the only one whos upset that antler sheild got reworked. It was way more fun before
Yes. Antler Shield was objectively the worst item from the new DLC, as it requires you to take damage to have a chance to proc it. If you had fun with it, congratulations, you're in the minority, but it was not good.
antler shield was superior
@@rndThursday nah not rnd checking his comments section, we pay you to have takes that we don't personally agree with and ignore the comments section
@EeeJayPopp You're not. Eclipse 8 knobslobberers don't like interesting items and would rather completely replace it than give it a real chance. Unfortunately, those types are 90% of the youtube scene and therefore 90% of the influence on the devs
Literally all it took was one mod that kept the concept and allowed tweaking its stats to make it both fun and strong in a way Razorwire does not emulate
🦠