Expensive, doesnt work as good as shimano and is worse then sram in almost every way... With that cones the insanely ugly derrailleur set... This just isn't it imo
This is simply one of the best videos you have done. Excellent coverage, I love the close-up shots and the punching was just laugh-out-loud. Keep up the excellent work.
@@gcn This makes me want to get a bike fitted with this groupset. It takes me back to when I started cycling and Campag was the pinnacle of cycling tech and yes it was a few years ago.
I'm really happy with the 10sp Record and have enough spares to last until I die. Also, when I go cycling, It's to escape life's complications, that's technology and electrickery
I've two bikes with 11-speed Record-Super Record and Chorus and one with 10-speed Record. 10-speed Record is the best! Bombproof, basically don't need readjustment.
Exactly. My old Chorus 10 is still going strong and way more than I can possibly put to good use... also 4500 euros for a groupset is insane for an amateur.
I love how bike innovation can complicate simple things. For example, the manual shutdown of the system is genius! To solve a problem that only exists because electronic shifting come to solve no problem at all
I mean...set the gears once and that's it. I have SRAM Red eTap (11 speed from a few years back) and Ultegra R8000 mechanical. I honestly don't see a big difference. You have to move the lever more, but that can't be the reason to pay so much more. What I really, REALLY like about the sram eTap, is that I don't have so many cables. But there are enough integrated solutions out there. I did my first big tour this year, from Frankfurt to the Mediterranean Sea (Sète, France) and I never thought twice about what bike I would pick. The one with the mechanical Groupset ofc!
1) The manual overdrive is a great idea. I drove 300 km this weekend to meet with friends for rides and my SRAM batteries got partially drained. I will need to remove my batteries in the future. 2) I would agree that the front and rear derailleurs have different power requirements. However, a quick Google search reveals that SRAM has a patent on interchangeable batteries (European Patent Office - EP3165439A1) 3) This is a good review of the groupset features, benefits and the technological choices made by Campagnolo. I would also like an opinion video comparing this groupset with others from Shimano and SRAM. 4) FYI, as a former recreational hockey player, I can testify to the effectiveness of a jock strap/cup… ;-)
As a long standing Shimano Di2 rider I recently went to SR EPS. It took a bit of getting used to but with the ability to set up the shifter switches to my desired layout the thumb shifters make perfect sense. I only don't like the fact that you don't have as much customisation with how the sequential shift works compared to Di2, but the brakes are incredible and it looks amazing too. So I was glad I didn't wait for the new SR wireless groupset to fit to my new bike. It doesn't look as nice, and as a TOP TIER groupset, this will only be ridden by very competent riders who don't need the even closer ratios that was was currently available on the outgoing SR EPS. For me 2X13 would have been a better way to go which would have given Campag a USP and as it is electric to stop issues with chain angles it could have been programmed to not use 1-13 or 2-1 (front chainring-rear cassette). Maybe they should have gone semi wireless like Shimano or kept it wired to keep the front and rear mechs looking stylish as this is what Campag has been so renowned for, style! They should have also kept the thumb shifter but added the ability to set the buttons to your own choice instead of pre-programmed choices. Seeing the comments on here I would be thinking an updated V2 wireless will come sooner rather than later!
I hope you're correct. I've been riding DA and decided to go with SR EPS because of lead times on the DA. Still don't have my bike and already and I'm wondering if I made the correct decision.
@@baysidessi Well as I purchased an Italian bike so I had to go all out Italian 😉, down to every last component (I know it's a little vain of me) except pedals. I also put a set of Ultra Bora WTO's on and these wheels are amazing. If I had NOT gone down the Italian route with bike and wheels then I would have gone DA, even though I think the disc brake rotors and callipers don't look good on Shimano. As I am not at such a level that I am riding at over 20mph for 100 miles, I know that SR or DA is more than enough for me, but SR EPS, it just looks so nice and has such a lovely feel to it. DA is superior in its programmability and maybe smoother shifting but not enough to stop me from wanting SR EPS (shifting is fast on EPS). If you are going for a classy bike like a C68 (like I did) then SR EPS is the perfect combo, if I was going for a Madone or Foil or something aero I would have probably gone DA and put up with the look of the brakes. BTW, SR EPS shifting is set up default a little weird so after experimenting I did go for Shifting D setup which uses the left and right shifter on the brake leavers to go up and down the rear cassette (like SRAM) and then the thumb shifters to do the up and down the chainrings. For me that is the best set up.
I have a NOS Record 10 group with Super Record 11 carbon 5-arm crank and Super Record rim brakes on my 1997 Bianchi Ti Megatube. The pinnacle of performance and reliability.
I personally think the styling leaves something to be desired, having only seen photos and videos. Not what I would expect from Campy. Campy parts should be absolutely beautiful and function effortlessly, damn near forever.
@@veganpotterthevegan With Dura Ace on the top. Shimano just knows how to have it done in a epic ,cool industrial design. Also the branding wasn't Campy's strength. They just stopped lettering it with Campagnolo and 11 speed, carbon or alike. But Dura-Ace was always Dura-Ace.
Ollie, ridden Campag since 1984. Thats a lovely looking set. Do you think they might let me test a group.. permanently 😂... Always engineered so well. However i bet that I would have to sell most of my body to afford it...😮
Brilliant video Ollie, as an Italian man I've always used campy on my bikes. I'm desperately trying to convince myself that four and half grand is worth it for a groupset, haven't done it yet but I'll keep trying.
I would have thought they'd have put it on some authentic Italian steed as well, but then also the hyperon ultra wheels,so must have been going for super lightweight, not to hide the weight of the groupset though surely 😅
Great overview by Ollie & Family Jewels. 😄 But personally, I don't want to have to think about batteries that die and shut-off buttons that are forgotten. What happened to the KISS Principle? Keep It Simple Shifters. That said, I admit my opinion is biased because I've never used wireless shifters.
Genuinely had been waiting for this. But with no rim brake option, it's a hard NO from me. Was wanting you update my record Ti 10-speed groupset on my Time VXRS as parts are basically impossible to come by these days. Good news is the old 12-speed SR is still available and that's the route I'll have to go.
I switched from Shimano to Campagnolo in 1994. I hate to say this, but unless someone is already a Campagnolo fan, the price point alone is going to make this a hard sell over Shimano or Sram. Campagnolo desperately needs to trickle down the electronic shifting to the Record and Chorus groupsets in order to keep pace with their rivals (no pun intended). Not everyone will want or need electronic shifting, of course, but making theirs even more stratospherically expensive is a step backwards for Campagnolo. There are only so many bike riding Italophile dentists in the world.
Wonder if a Record group will offer a 11 tooth start for us amateurs that fits on its old free hub spline? Also, for TT, will we get satellite buttons?
I'm a huge campagnolo fan. I still have Campagnolo Record 11 speed .man its very beautiful. I can't believe I have seen this for 5400.00 wtf .No wonder people buy that Shimano crap.Sram Red Etap is nice.
it's nice compag is joining the wireless competition. Sadly they aren't really threatening sram or shimano. Aside from heritage, esthetics, brandname. They don't really offer anything new and don't outshine the competition on any aspect.
Can’t agree more with this statement. Could not see any single feature that would persuade me to even think about this group set. As a long fun of Campi, I stopped buying it a long time ago and SRAM etap is way more exciting and logical with their design. Still use the old Campi mechanical group set but its days are numbered. Unless Campi starts innovating it is hard to see their future.
You mean Campagnolo joined the only other fully wireless group set SRAM. Shimano is only semi-wireless I.e., the front derailor- the rear still runs a wire
I'm so sad for Campy .. I was quite hyped when I first heard about them going wireless through the patents that leaked a while ago, as they where kind of falling behind with their electronic options and I always loved their mechanical groupsets and inventiveness. Unfortunately this ends up to be just a vastly overpriced and poorly executed Sram groupset wrapped in somewhat questionable design choices IMO surfing on a name that no longer means new "out of the box" thinking. It's not even strikingly beautiful as before (that rear mech, ouch). No interchangeable batteries ? come on .. and that price point ? Seriously ? Who's going to want to buy this groupset except campy hardcore fans with very deep pockets, which I guess is not that wide a market. It might mean that even the Record groupset will retail at around the same price as a Red Axs, bonkers
It's obviously better executed (as in: quality) than SRAM, but it isn't worth the (doubled?) price difference. I read that the different batteries were due to a SRAM patent, which is a retarded patent you can only blame SRAM for.
@@l.d.t.6327 yes, you're indeed absolutely right about that patent, I heard something about it after writing that and it's definitely problematic. As for the better quality, I would have to see it for myself. I'm currently on my second SRAM red groupset, this one axs the first one red Etap, and there's absolutely nothing to blame on the build quality. It's been put through it's paces and still has no flaw. Well except for the sometimes blurry shifting, but apparently this new SR is not estranged with the problem either. But I build and maintain my bikes myself so maybe that makes it easier for me to adjust when needed.
@@timotheebossard4675 The shifting on the new SR is, from hearsay (someone who tested it) excellent, and especially very quick (significantly quicker than SRAM, I haven't seen comparisons with DI2). The rumours about blurry shifting come from one person, and I wouldn't say it's in the construction. Maybe a badly tuned bike, but ofcourse everything Campagnolo delivers for testing is under bigger scrutiny and these issues shouldn't be there. What imho Campagnolo excells, is the braking and I like the crank more (spins like butter), and the longevity of chains + cassettes (good they made the cassette out of steel). But as said, these (relatively small) improvements do not justify doubling the price. You are always off cheaper and with more-or-less the same performance with SRAM, for a much better price.
For the people who have only ridden Campy, the removal of the thumb shifters will take some getting used to, if ever. The removal of the thumb shifters will be unnatural to these people. The traditional Campy people will not like the change. What was once a natural feeling in the hands will become strange and one will have to think about how to do the shifts, instead of instinctively shifting as if at one with the system. The thumb shifts were a distinct operation and location and a lot of traditional Campy people will mistakenly shift the wrong way given the proximity of the two levers behind the brake.
Even if I can't afford the latest Campagnolo tech , I stick with the manufacturer just to be different than the crowd but appreciate they are all good in their own way.
It’s a “meh” groupset hindered by patent restrictions and cobbled together reluctantly because they are so late to the party. I’m hoping it’s just a placeholder preceeding something really revolutionary and innovative.
@@gcn How about some clever innovative tech that doesn't rely on batteries having to be recharged every 700km? You could shave off soo much weight that way. Imagine how much lighter and sleaker it would look without the batteries and electonics.
The max cassette of 11-29 puts me off. I had Campag 11-29 with a compact crank and over long climbs of greater than 5 or 6% average it was just a grind. I really needed an 11-32 at least. Aside from this gripe it's a brilliant groupset.
The enthusiasm projected is contagious. I was starting to crave even before the close up of the chain rings' gorgeous machine work. I wasn't even thinking about price. But then, I heard one kilo heavier! Are you kidding,1000 grams more?
Where did you hear that? Ollie mentioned that it would be slightly heavier than the old one. I’d be surprised if it were more that a few 10s of grams heavier. No way 1kg that’s just BS.
Obviously a long ways out until I look into a bike fitted with this groupset. But, I'll more than likely look at the older EPS Super Record first since that will most likely be cheaper to get my hands on first. Currently using Record 10s on a 2000 era Bianchi L-Lite and that has been my main ride for the past several years.
another great looking groupset from the masters, i do like this power off mode on the shifter...about time ! damn site better than removing the battery for piece of mind, as you pointed out so as to not go flat whilst journeying to your ride/race,
Thanks for the informative video, but I can't help thinking having a frame made of solid marble (or so it looks) somewhat makes the lightweight groupset redundant?
I've used wireless speedometer/odometer and they were either unreliable or did not work efficiently. I stay loyal to my 90's and early 00's road bikes and old school set up. It's the legs and fitness that are key to cycling.
Brilliant review. Sorry about the pain to your nether regions. For many years I was a massive sceptic about Campagnolo until they got it right. SunTour then Shimano we're way ahead. Now it's nip and tuck and with SRAM in the game and no more SunTour it's mater of taste.
Oh my g 0 d! Poor Ollie, but hit him again! I was laughing so much during the video. The new Super Record look really nice, so as soon as I win lottery....
Hope they introduce wireless shifting to the lower tier groupsets also, like the the Record and Chorus. They had 11s Chorus and Record eps back in 2014 I think. 🤞🤞
@@veganpottertheveganI agree but Campa is campa, they rally dont have to do anything it seems to. Since they always go their own ways. I only ride campa though ;)
@Ryan Terence It's even easier to spot low income people like yourself. Big earners don't brag about groupsets on their bicycle in youtube comments. And that's assuming they're even telling the truth.
@Ryan Terence I mean most doctors/lawyers make enough to slap on whatever groupset they want. Dont have to be the .1% to do that.. Avg Partner income is still north of 1mil so I'd say that makes you quite a big earner in society (together with top managers/ entrepreneurs)
I have had wireless since 2016…. Has worked flawlessly since, just saying... That being said - I have had campy before - still do on one bike (although it is friction shifting campy) - great stuff.
@@ianjackson9853, some in cycling misuse the "downshift" and "upshift" terminology. In every other area where gear shifting is done, downshifting is shifting to a lower gear ratio, while upshifting is to a higher gear ratio. To your question, shifting "down" to the smaller chain ring is an actual "downshift" since that is a change to a smaller gear ratio. In the back though, when you shift to a smaller cog, you're actually "upshifting" to a higher gear ratio.
Awesome, despite being about 10 years too late. I would love to adopt it if and only "IF": 1. could the brakes be paired to non-disc also 2. can the shifters be paired to 11 and even 10 sp 3. can it be seamlessly be paired with 11 sp cranks 4. can it all be programed from 10-12 speed with a single app 5. can the same wheel hubs reused from 10-12 sp. Too forever to get to 10 sp, but once we did, it went crazy fast to 13 sp and disc brakes. Just too many parts to change for a single variable change.
Crying in laughter over Ollie's jewel-punching, crying in sadness over the loss in classic Italian thumb shifting... where is the world going?!?!?!?!?!?!
to be clear this isn’t a review! We don’t review things. I’m simply presenting the information about it in a hopefully clear and informative way that allows people to draw their own conclusions
My LTwoo electronic groupset lasted about 2500 shifts before it dropped dead. If you don't ride much it could be a good option. Sent it back to them under warranty, never got the parts or a refund.
Perhaps I'm weird, but I would only consider electronic shifting on a bike that had a centralized battery that could optionally be charged with a dynamo hub. The battery could be located e.g. inside the down tube.
That's Shimano then but if that's flat everything is flat. At least with SRAM you could put the front mech battery into the derailleur if that has run out.
@@leskennedy Oh, thank you! I thought all these systems used separate batteries. Now I see online that some folks have plugged their dynamos to their Di2 batteries through an AC/DC USB converter.
Which cassette and chainset in new Campagnolo is perfect for road bike climbers? In the old group, let’s say, was 50/34 and 11-32. Whereas know? How I can compare this new group with old one. Thank you
Campag's crank design is a classic example of Italian engineers making things complex that don't need to be. The interference fit bearings in the crank arms are a total PITA to service. And the hirth joint on the axle is expensive to machine and compromises structural integrity. Different is not necessarily better.
I feel that Campagnolo has fallen so far behind the other two brands that they’re forced to abandon tradition to appeal to a wider range of cyclists. No thumb shifters? No rim brake options (for the neo-retro builds)? I love Campagnolo because of its timeless aesthetic looks as it progresses to 12 speed but this one is difficult to admire. 🤔
quite the contraty, campagnolo is way ahead of shimano and catching up to sram. they just have to ditch the stupid front derailleur. rim option??? are you out of your mind??
Rolls-Royce just came out with a car that looks and operates just like someone clone-stamped a Bentley... except for the a patented refueling feature. Only the Rolls clone sounds like someone fell down the stairs when it shifts.
This punch in the crown jeewls is reminding me of a episode of top gear, where they were testing a Alfa Romeo, and for each time they used the words passion or heritage, they had to put a coin um the bag...😂😉
How do you manage to put a crank face down on a concrete road without getting a single scratch on them. I lean my bike gently on a wall and it’s scratches all over. GCN MAGIC!!
It’s very interesting to read the polarizing pro/against comments regarding the functionality of the product, when in all likelihood no one has tried it yet. 🤔
Not that I could afford either but I’d take the previous gen any day over this, it looks better, has a thumb shifter and is lighter, by the sounds of it the only ‘improvement’ is fully wireless which is only an issue when setting up
Sorry, Ollie, but it was hilarious seeing you get punched. On a more serious note, I’ve been on Campy (or Campag if you prefer) since 1988, and I like this new group. I just hope they introduce Record and Chorus level sets.
You're wrong, Campagnolo is 95 years old and has a ton of story sure, but isn't the oldest nor the one with more story. Shimano is 102 years old and is way bigger and important than Campagnolo could ever dream of
i won't miss the thumb button at all. on every set i've owned since 1998, the left thumb button constantly tried to rust and freeze up, and it took constant oiling to keep it functioning.
Campagnolo were touted as the traditionalists choice. Now, like the other two, have ditched rim brakes from part of their line up. This might just be an own goal from them. Or it's the first bell toll for the death of rim brakes.
Away from pro racing, when was the last time you saw a new bike with electronic gears and rim brakes? The only people I know with this combination are riding >5 year old bikes.
@@andrewcockburn7484 There are no rim brakes in pro cycling any more. Not that I have seen. Also there are people with slightly older frames who always upgrade the groupset to the latest.
Seeing Oli get punched in the love blobs reminds me of the dearly departed Rik Mayal, a true master of comedy violence. So well done team, I hope the swelling didn't impede the ride! Ooh er...
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Let us know your thoughts on the new Campagnolo Super Record Wireless! 👇
Waste of materials. 5000€ for what? Bah.
what!!! IP69K🤣🤣🤣 water proof rating? NICE🤣🤣🤣
groupset so expensive, it feels like a hit in the balls 🤣
Expensive, doesnt work as good as shimano and is worse then sram in almost every way... With that cones the insanely ugly derrailleur set... This just isn't it imo
I am so sorry for Campy, but I’d rather stay with my Record 11sp mech groupset. Served me fine for a decade and lot’s of mileage left in it.
Please keep the punching included for future product launches! Keeps the marketing BS out 😂
Is that called balls-eye?
This entire video is marketing BS
@@junkandcrapamen sorry you feel that way the intention is to present all the information clearly, so you can make up your own mind👍🏼
@@GCNuser123 Sure it is, bike salesman.
What marketing bs are you talking about
Quite possibly the best video you’ve done. Entertaining and informative. GCN is all over it. Random guy giving cup shots may need to be a regular.
Hahaha well make it part of his contract 😂
This is simply one of the best videos you have done. Excellent coverage, I love the close-up shots and the punching was just laugh-out-loud. Keep up the excellent work.
Great to hear that you enjoyed the video! What do you make of this Groupset? ⚙
@@gcn This makes me want to get a bike fitted with this groupset. It takes me back to when I started cycling and Campag was the pinnacle of cycling tech and yes it was a few years ago.
Well that made me laugh out loud at lunch, I think Ollie deserves a raise after this video. Hopefully he did it all in one take.
I'm really happy with the 10sp Record and have enough spares to last until I die.
Also, when I go cycling, It's to escape life's complications, that's technology and electrickery
I've two bikes with 11-speed Record-Super Record and Chorus and one with 10-speed Record. 10-speed Record is the best! Bombproof, basically don't need readjustment.
Exactly.
My old Chorus 10 is still going strong and way more than I can possibly put to good use... also 4500 euros for a groupset is insane for an amateur.
Love how the rear mech is inspired by the size and styling of the Terminator’s arm. Campag Italian heritage right there. Bellissima!
I love how bike innovation can complicate simple things. For example, the manual shutdown of the system is genius! To solve a problem that only exists because electronic shifting come to solve no problem at all
I 100% agree.
Well, it solves one problem, electronic shifting I mean, it helps rise the prices, so... 😅
I mean...set the gears once and that's it.
I have SRAM Red eTap (11 speed from a few years back) and Ultegra R8000 mechanical.
I honestly don't see a big difference. You have to move the lever more, but that can't be the reason to pay so much more.
What I really, REALLY like about the sram eTap, is that I don't have so many cables. But there are enough integrated solutions out there.
I did my first big tour this year, from Frankfurt to the Mediterranean Sea (Sète, France) and I never thought twice about what bike I would pick.
The one with the mechanical Groupset ofc!
I love my electronic shifting. It’s not necessary but it’s great!
1) The manual overdrive is a great idea. I drove 300 km this weekend to meet with friends for rides and my SRAM batteries got partially drained. I will need to remove my batteries in the future.
2) I would agree that the front and rear derailleurs have different power requirements. However, a quick Google search reveals that SRAM has a patent on interchangeable batteries (European Patent Office - EP3165439A1)
3) This is a good review of the groupset features, benefits and the technological choices made by Campagnolo. I would also like an opinion video comparing this groupset with others from Shimano and SRAM.
4) FYI, as a former recreational hockey player, I can testify to the effectiveness of a jock strap/cup… ;-)
As a long standing Shimano Di2 rider I recently went to SR EPS. It took a bit of getting used to but with the ability to set up the shifter switches to my desired layout the thumb shifters make perfect sense. I only don't like the fact that you don't have as much customisation with how the sequential shift works compared to Di2, but the brakes are incredible and it looks amazing too. So I was glad I didn't wait for the new SR wireless groupset to fit to my new bike. It doesn't look as nice, and as a TOP TIER groupset, this will only be ridden by very competent riders who don't need the even closer ratios that was was currently available on the outgoing SR EPS. For me 2X13 would have been a better way to go which would have given Campag a USP and as it is electric to stop issues with chain angles it could have been programmed to not use 1-13 or 2-1 (front chainring-rear cassette). Maybe they should have gone semi wireless like Shimano or kept it wired to keep the front and rear mechs looking stylish as this is what Campag has been so renowned for, style! They should have also kept the thumb shifter but added the ability to set the buttons to your own choice instead of pre-programmed choices. Seeing the comments on here I would be thinking an updated V2 wireless will come sooner rather than later!
I hope you're correct. I've been riding DA and decided to go with SR EPS because of lead times on the DA. Still don't have my bike and already and I'm wondering if I made the correct decision.
@@baysidessi Well as I purchased an Italian bike so I had to go all out Italian 😉, down to every last component (I know it's a little vain of me) except pedals. I also put a set of Ultra Bora WTO's on and these wheels are amazing. If I had NOT gone down the Italian route with bike and wheels then I would have gone DA, even though I think the disc brake rotors and callipers don't look good on Shimano. As I am not at such a level that I am riding at over 20mph for 100 miles, I know that SR or DA is more than enough for me, but SR EPS, it just looks so nice and has such a lovely feel to it. DA is superior in its programmability and maybe smoother shifting but not enough to stop me from wanting SR EPS (shifting is fast on EPS). If you are going for a classy bike like a C68 (like I did) then SR EPS is the perfect combo, if I was going for a Madone or Foil or something aero I would have probably gone DA and put up with the look of the brakes. BTW, SR EPS shifting is set up default a little weird so after experimenting I did go for Shifting D setup which uses the left and right shifter on the brake leavers to go up and down the rear cassette (like SRAM) and then the thumb shifters to do the up and down the chainrings. For me that is the best set up.
Hope the groupset is successful for them, but right now it's looking a lot like the "SRAM eTap we have at home"
For a much higher price
And you can't swap batteries front to rear if you ran out of juice on the road.
Exactly, at this point I'll just buy Etap for half the money
RIP Campy
@@beyond8981 they're fine, they've always been much more expensive than the rest and haven't had an issue suckering people into buying their stuff
I have a NOS Record 10 group with Super Record 11 carbon 5-arm crank and Super Record rim brakes on my 1997 Bianchi Ti Megatube. The pinnacle of performance and reliability.
I personally think the styling leaves something to be desired, having only seen photos and videos. Not what I would expect from Campy. Campy parts should be absolutely beautiful and function effortlessly, damn near forever.
Haven't liked the look of a single high end Campy groupo since they started using carbon. SRAM and Shimano is definitely less ugly
It's italian product, it's not meant to be functional
@@veganpotterthevegan With Dura Ace on the top. Shimano just knows how to have it done in a epic ,cool industrial design. Also the branding wasn't Campy's strength. They just stopped lettering it with Campagnolo and 11 speed, carbon or alike. But Dura-Ace was always Dura-Ace.
That rear mech looks like original di2 ultegra! Sorry sram red looks better!
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 Never enjoyed Italian cars, motorbikes or groupsets, have you?
Ollie, ridden Campag since 1984. Thats a lovely looking set. Do you think they might let me test a group.. permanently 😂...
Always engineered so well.
However i bet that I would have to sell most of my body to afford it...😮
5 tousand money pounds for the groupo. Taking the piss
Hahaha nice try Alf! Do you think you'll be upgrading to the modern campy parts? 👀
The mysterious yellow man was a beautiful touch 💛
Brilliant video Ollie, as an Italian man I've always used campy on my bikes. I'm desperately trying to convince myself that four and half grand is worth it for a groupset, haven't done it yet but I'll keep trying.
Keep it up Frank! It'll be worth it 👀
Nice, at 5:50 you can see marks on the frame (from a dropped chain)
All I want is a high end mechanical group set.
dura-ace 9100
I have Dura-Ace 7900 and am perfectly happy with it. No superfluous do-dads…
They are out there! Campy do some great options if electronic shifting isn't your thing 🙌
12sp chorus will do just find, SR if your wallet requires some weight saving
I’ll stick to one 105, cable group set thanks x
Which is the lighter option aswell.
105 works great and it's inexpensive. I have a spare grouppo just sitting in boxes to get me through the next decade.
Fratelli d'Italia I love your bikes and Campagnolo ! 🇮🇹
The era of Campagnolo is over.
The new model has convinced us.
Thank you for the hard-hitting review.
Thank you GCN for getting this to us so quickly - very entertaining as always!
Your welcome! We love the chance to ride new tech, we couldn't wait to show you this beauty 😍
One of the funniest GCN videos I’ve seen in a very long time 😂😂😂
Just came by to say this is a wild ride considering 40 yrs ago I was super excited w my stock nuevo records on my Bianchi.
Cool to see the Ltd edition Specialized Aethos on GCN
I would have thought they'd have put it on some authentic Italian steed as well, but then also the hyperon ultra wheels,so must have been going for super lightweight, not to hide the weight of the groupset though surely 😅
Great overview by Ollie & Family Jewels. 😄
But personally, I don't want to have to think about batteries that die and shut-off buttons that are forgotten. What happened to the KISS Principle? Keep It Simple Shifters. That said, I admit my opinion is biased because I've never used wireless shifters.
Genuinely had been waiting for this. But with no rim brake option, it's a hard NO from me. Was wanting you update my record Ti 10-speed groupset on my Time VXRS as parts are basically impossible to come by these days.
Good news is the old 12-speed SR is still available and that's the route I'll have to go.
Isn’t that marble frame heavy?
Nah, ivory from 10,000 elephants!
We've got to slow ollie down on the climbs some how 👀
I switched from Shimano to Campagnolo in 1994. I hate to say this, but unless someone is already a Campagnolo fan, the price point alone is going to make this a hard sell over Shimano or Sram. Campagnolo desperately needs to trickle down the electronic shifting to the Record and Chorus groupsets in order to keep pace with their rivals (no pun intended). Not everyone will want or need electronic shifting, of course, but making theirs even more stratospherically expensive is a step backwards for Campagnolo. There are only so many bike riding Italophile dentists in the world.
If you're under 50 and the tone of this video is confusing, let me explain: back in the last century, Campagnolo used to make good components.
i think you should have mention the italien passion and flair for desing and heritage a litle more often, its campagnolo afterall.
Hahaha we had to bite our tongues 😂
@@gcn i bet you did! some thigs you better not over do.i like your methodes of conditioning and monitoring your self.
I've been riding Campy since the 80's. Still the best groupset in my view.
Will you be getting yourself some modern Campy? 👀
@@gcn Yes. On my new Colnago C68.
Wonder if a Record group will offer a 11 tooth start for us amateurs that fits on its old free hub spline?
Also, for TT, will we get satellite buttons?
I'm a huge campagnolo fan. I still have Campagnolo Record 11 speed .man its very beautiful. I can't believe I have seen this for 5400.00 wtf .No wonder people buy that Shimano crap.Sram Red Etap is nice.
it's nice compag is joining the wireless competition.
Sadly they aren't really threatening sram or shimano.
Aside from heritage, esthetics, brandname. They don't really offer anything new and don't outshine the competition on any aspect.
Can’t agree more with this statement. Could not see any single feature that would persuade me to even think about this group set. As a long fun of Campi, I stopped buying it a long time ago and SRAM etap is way more exciting and logical with their design. Still use the old Campi mechanical group set but its days are numbered. Unless Campi starts innovating it is hard to see their future.
I agree with what you both say but punch in a nuts for both of you😂
You mean Campagnolo joined the only other fully wireless group set SRAM. Shimano is only semi-wireless I.e., the front derailor- the rear still runs a wire
I'm so sad for Campy .. I was quite hyped when I first heard about them going wireless through the patents that leaked a while ago, as they where kind of falling behind with their electronic options and I always loved their mechanical groupsets and inventiveness. Unfortunately this ends up to be just a vastly overpriced and poorly executed Sram groupset wrapped in somewhat questionable design choices IMO surfing on a name that no longer means new "out of the box" thinking. It's not even strikingly beautiful as before (that rear mech, ouch). No interchangeable batteries ? come on .. and that price point ? Seriously ? Who's going to want to buy this groupset except campy hardcore fans with very deep pockets, which I guess is not that wide a market. It might mean that even the Record groupset will retail at around the same price as a Red Axs, bonkers
It's obviously better executed (as in: quality) than SRAM, but it isn't worth the (doubled?) price difference. I read that the different batteries were due to a SRAM patent, which is a retarded patent you can only blame SRAM for.
@@l.d.t.6327 yes, you're indeed absolutely right about that patent, I heard something about it after writing that and it's definitely problematic. As for the better quality, I would have to see it for myself. I'm currently on my second SRAM red groupset, this one axs the first one red Etap, and there's absolutely nothing to blame on the build quality. It's been put through it's paces and still has no flaw. Well except for the sometimes blurry shifting, but apparently this new SR is not estranged with the problem either. But I build and maintain my bikes myself so maybe that makes it easier for me to adjust when needed.
@@timotheebossard4675 The shifting on the new SR is, from hearsay (someone who tested it) excellent, and especially very quick (significantly quicker than SRAM, I haven't seen comparisons with DI2). The rumours about blurry shifting come from one person, and I wouldn't say it's in the construction. Maybe a badly tuned bike, but ofcourse everything Campagnolo delivers for testing is under bigger scrutiny and these issues shouldn't be there.
What imho Campagnolo excells, is the braking and I like the crank more (spins like butter), and the longevity of chains + cassettes (good they made the cassette out of steel). But as said, these (relatively small) improvements do not justify doubling the price. You are always off cheaper and with more-or-less the same performance with SRAM, for a much better price.
For the people who have only ridden Campy, the removal of the thumb shifters will take some getting used to, if ever. The removal of the thumb shifters will be unnatural to these people. The traditional Campy people will not like the change. What was once a natural feeling in the hands will become strange and one will have to think about how to do the shifts, instead of instinctively shifting as if at one with the system. The thumb shifts were a distinct operation and location and a lot of traditional Campy people will mistakenly shift the wrong way given the proximity of the two levers behind the brake.
"The traditional Campy people will not like the change" ...that's the shimano people now
That would be me.
Gangliest rear mech ever. It looks like they went for a shimano shadow rear hanger style then bolted a normal mech to it.
Even if I can't afford the latest Campagnolo tech , I stick with the manufacturer just to be different than the crowd but appreciate they are all good in their own way.
Those gigantic, dinosaur size front and rear mech…. They sure do things differently.
It’s a “meh” groupset hindered by patent restrictions and cobbled together reluctantly because they are so late to the party. I’m hoping it’s just a placeholder preceeding something really revolutionary and innovative.
What do you think Campy should release next? What would be there revolutionary move? 👀
@@gcn How about some clever innovative tech that doesn't rely on batteries having to be recharged every 700km? You could shave off soo much weight that way. Imagine how much lighter and sleaker it would look without the batteries and electonics.
@@a1white You mean some sort of tried and tested system of steel cables and levers?
@@a1white Like studying the effects of using kinetic energy vs, weight of the batteries. Which one would be more efficient
Wireless brakes😂
No waxed chain patrol needed in this video!!
😉😂
very nice places 😎 ❤
did Maranga host you? 😁
The max cassette of 11-29 puts me off. I had Campag 11-29 with a compact crank and over long climbs of greater than 5 or 6% average it was just a grind. I really needed an 11-32 at least.
Aside from this gripe it's a brilliant groupset.
Awesome & a fun review :)
nice to actually see some campy on the channel for a change
The enthusiasm projected is contagious. I was starting to crave even before the close up of the chain rings' gorgeous machine work. I wasn't even thinking about price. But then, I heard one kilo heavier! Are you kidding,1000 grams more?
Where did you hear that? Ollie mentioned that it would be slightly heavier than the old one. I’d be surprised if it were more that a few 10s of grams heavier. No way 1kg that’s just BS.
@@arthurhood8030 try 11:25 Yes, it sounds wrong.
Obviously a long ways out until I look into a bike fitted with this groupset. But, I'll more than likely look at the older EPS Super Record first since that will most likely be cheaper to get my hands on first. Currently using Record 10s on a 2000 era Bianchi L-Lite and that has been my main ride for the past several years.
I chuckled every time.
another great looking groupset from the masters, i do like this power off mode on the shifter...about time !
damn site better than removing the battery for piece of mind, as you pointed out so as to not go flat whilst journeying to your ride/race,
It's a great feature! 🙌
The cables on my 8-speed Record groupset never go flat. :-)
Thanks for the informative video, but I can't help thinking having a frame made of solid marble (or so it looks) somewhat makes the lightweight groupset redundant?
Unlucky paint choice
I've used wireless speedometer/odometer and they were either unreliable or did not work efficiently. I stay loyal to my 90's and early 00's road bikes and old school set up. It's the legs and fitness that are key to cycling.
Brilliant review. Sorry about the pain to your nether regions. For many years I was a massive sceptic about Campagnolo until they got it right. SunTour then Shimano we're way ahead. Now it's nip and tuck and with SRAM in the game and no more SunTour it's mater of taste.
How did you not mesh those BB crank components!
Oh my g 0 d! Poor Ollie, but hit him again! I was laughing so much during the video. The new Super Record look really nice, so as soon as I win lottery....
With power meters and rev counters in the cranks, a "1 by" 15 spd automatic should be available by now.
Nice to see that they left the factory grease on the chain for you 😀 makes the groupset look appropriately filthy.
Hope they introduce wireless shifting to the lower tier groupsets also, like the the Record and Chorus. They had 11s Chorus and Record eps back in 2014 I think. 🤞🤞
They really have to with SRAM having wireless Rival.
Keep your eyes peeled 👀
@@veganpottertheveganI agree but Campa is campa, they rally dont have to do anything it seems to. Since they always go their own ways. I only ride campa though ;)
They had also Athena eps!
Latest Groupset for Doctors, lawyers and dentists. To put on their heavy Disc Brake bike.
#durianrider
@Ryan Terence It's even easier to spot low income people like yourself.
Big earners don't brag about groupsets on their bicycle in youtube comments.
And that's assuming they're even telling the truth.
@Ryan Terence I mean most doctors/lawyers make enough to slap on whatever groupset they want. Dont have to be the .1% to do that.. Avg Partner income is still north of 1mil so I'd say that makes you quite a big earner in society (together with top managers/ entrepreneurs)
Seethe about it
Precisely, couldnt pay enough to get it quick enough to go on titanium disc ribble CGR 😉
This is why I have been hoarding mechanical components for years now.
Specifically, any silver Campagnolo bits especially PT Veloce 10 speed! 🫡
@@pedal4donuts 10s veloce on my commuter/work bike, ftw!
OMG another GCN video pronouncing Campagnolo decently. :)
The punch in the nuts is a great twist on the old Top Gear gag
I have had wireless since 2016…. Has worked flawlessly since, just saying... That being said - I have had campy before - still do on one bike (although it is friction shifting campy) - great stuff.
"Downshift" is a shift to a lower gear ratio. The traditional Campy thumb levers perform upshifts, i.e. shift to higher gear ratios.
What about the front one? I think Down means "to a smaller cog"
@@ianjackson9853, some in cycling misuse the "downshift" and "upshift" terminology. In every other area where gear shifting is done, downshifting is shifting to a lower gear ratio, while upshifting is to a higher gear ratio. To your question, shifting "down" to the smaller chain ring is an actual "downshift" since that is a change to a smaller gear ratio. In the back though, when you shift to a smaller cog, you're actually "upshifting" to a higher gear ratio.
I have the 2019 Mechanical Super Record and love it, not sure I would upgrade to wireless as for me it wouldn’t be much of an upgrade.
Glad to see you put it all on the line for this video..😂😂😂🎉🎉
Awesome, despite being about 10 years too late. I would love to adopt it if and only "IF": 1. could the brakes be paired to non-disc also 2. can the shifters be paired to 11 and even 10 sp 3. can it be seamlessly be paired with 11 sp cranks 4. can it all be programed from 10-12 speed with a single app 5. can the same wheel hubs reused from 10-12 sp. Too forever to get to 10 sp, but once we did, it went crazy fast to 13 sp and disc brakes. Just too many parts to change for a single variable change.
Can't wait for Hambini to review the bb/chainset
Sepp Kuss will have to do quite a few more stretches to reach that battery while descending at 80 kph.
It was a button on the rear derailleur that overused the shifting- don’t think he was trying to unclip the battery
Crying in laughter over Ollie's jewel-punching, crying in sadness over the loss in classic Italian thumb shifting... where is the world going?!?!?!?!?!?!
The devolution of cycling continues
Groupset of the People!
Not too many, but still.
First you try to kill Hank, now you're trying to end Ollie's family line😂
I am from Indonesia ,bigs fans GCN 👍👍☕
GCN’s review looks suspiciously positive compared to all the other reviews on TH-cam. It’s been nothing short of a disaster for Campagnolo.
to be clear this isn’t a review! We don’t review things. I’m simply presenting the information about it in a hopefully clear and informative way that allows people to draw their own conclusions
@@GCNuser123 I just noticed the ‘includes paid promotion’ tag, so your comments make more sense in that context.
Not for 4 1/2k
I'll wait for the Ltwoo electronic coming out at a 9th of the price
With thumb shifters.
I want a 1x wireless 11 speed ltwoo, or like shimano 12 speed but fits 11 hubs for my tt bike
My LTwoo electronic groupset lasted about 2500 shifts before it dropped dead. If you don't ride much it could be a good option. Sent it back to them under warranty, never got the parts or a refund.
Nice but shame those cables out 😁
Perhaps I'm weird, but I would only consider electronic shifting on a bike that had a centralized battery that could optionally be charged with a dynamo hub. The battery could be located e.g. inside the down tube.
That's Shimano then but if that's flat everything is flat. At least with SRAM you could put the front mech battery into the derailleur if that has run out.
@@leskennedy Oh, thank you! I thought all these systems used separate batteries. Now I see online that some folks have plugged their dynamos to their Di2 batteries through an AC/DC USB converter.
@@Frostbiker That would be an handy if you're doing huge tours and sleeping in bus shelters I guess. Most of us have electric at home !
@@leskennedy I hate recharging batteries :) That's why I have a dynamo hub.
@@Frostbiker then go mechanic shifting. Why to take expensive and heavier electronic and add dynamo on top?
i dream campagnolo
evry day and night
Absolutely love Campagnolo. Very nicely presented as always and Looks amazing. I think you should get an ice pack first then Pizza Ollie 😂😂
Which cassette and chainset in new Campagnolo is perfect for road bike climbers? In the old group, let’s say, was 50/34 and 11-32. Whereas know? How I can compare this new group with old one. Thank you
Campag's crank design is a classic example of Italian engineers making things complex that don't need to be. The interference fit bearings in the crank arms are a total PITA to service. And the hirth joint on the axle is expensive to machine and compromises structural integrity. Different is not necessarily better.
I feel that Campagnolo has fallen so far behind the other two brands that they’re forced to abandon tradition to appeal to a wider range of cyclists. No thumb shifters? No rim brake options (for the neo-retro builds)? I love Campagnolo because of its timeless aesthetic looks as it progresses to 12 speed but this one is difficult to admire. 🤔
quite the contraty, campagnolo is way ahead of shimano and catching up to sram. they just have to ditch the stupid front derailleur.
rim option??? are you out of your mind??
@@hptator Who’s spending 4.5K on a groupset.😂😂 And Rim Brakes are for your more performance minded rider who doesn’t want heavy disc brakes
@@hptator Jeez that front derailleur must have done some terrible things to you.
@@archieman123 agree on outrageous groupset price. rim brakes and performance... yeah, right why would you want to brake anyway? to go slower?
@@jkk916 you wouldn't believe
The Rolls-Royce of cycling groupsets. Especially for anyone with any interest in the history of cycling.
Isn't Royce the Rolls Royce of cycling?
Great comparison! How about the Ferrari of cycling? 💨
@@matthewbaynham6286Not really, but I see where you were trying to go......
Rolls-Royce just came out with a car that looks and operates just like someone clone-stamped a Bentley... except for the a patented refueling feature. Only the Rolls clone sounds like someone fell down the stairs when it shifts.
This new group set is ultra ugly.
This punch in the crown jeewls is reminding me of a episode of top gear, where they were testing a Alfa Romeo, and for each time they used the words passion or heritage, they had to put a coin um the bag...😂😉
How do you manage to put a crank face down on a concrete road without getting a single scratch on them. I lean my bike gently on a wall and it’s scratches all over. GCN MAGIC!!
I would pay about anything to be the one to do the nut punching. 😂😂😂
Sorry I'll stick to cable gearing due to the cost of the group set's and no worrying about the battery going flat
It’s very interesting to read the polarizing pro/against comments regarding the functionality of the product, when in all likelihood no one has tried it yet. 🤔
and??
@@ritxises9542: And it is very interesting as your lack of proper capitalization.
What's interesting is that the only person who actually tried it didn't even mention it once. This is just an overly long ad.
Not that I could afford either but I’d take the previous gen any day over this, it looks better, has a thumb shifter and is lighter, by the sounds of it the only ‘improvement’ is fully wireless which is only an issue when setting up
The year is 2055, Peter Sagan Jr. yells at the team car for remotely locking him in the small ring to keep him from attacking early
I own campy on a backup bike and it's always a nice shift. I like this new group but it's very very expensive for only the elite pro end
😅
Campy is done for me
Sorry, Ollie, but it was hilarious seeing you get punched. On a more serious note, I’ve been on Campy (or Campag if you prefer) since 1988, and I like this new group. I just hope they introduce Record and Chorus level sets.
There’s a weight limit on disc rotors 82 kgs for 140 rotors and 109kgs for 160 rotors
Can I ask where that info’ comes from. As I’d like to better understand - thanks
This info is 100% false - there are no limits on rotor size weight will just effect stopping distance
And other reviews are saying that you can’t lock the wheels!
@@geoffarnold1555 thanks.
@@jeffglasspoole5871 check campagnolo own information on there product for safety information on wireless groupsets
You're wrong, Campagnolo is 95 years old and has a ton of story sure, but isn't the oldest nor the one with more story. Shimano is 102 years old and is way bigger and important than Campagnolo could ever dream of
i won't miss the thumb button at all. on every set i've owned since 1998, the left thumb button constantly tried to rust and freeze up, and it took constant oiling to keep it functioning.
Do a small cut on the rubber from the leaver and it's fixed.
Campagnolo were touted as the traditionalists choice. Now, like the other two, have ditched rim brakes from part of their line up. This might just be an own goal from them. Or it's the first bell toll for the death of rim brakes.
I agree, they should do a rim brake version. The wheel will come full circle one day. 😁
Away from pro racing, when was the last time you saw a new bike with electronic gears and rim brakes? The only people I know with this combination are riding >5 year old bikes.
Rim brakes have been old news for years now
@@andrewcockburn7484 There are no rim brakes in pro cycling any more. Not that I have seen. Also there are people with slightly older frames who always upgrade the groupset to the latest.
DING DING DING... is the death of the rim brake here? 👀
Seeing Oli get punched in the love blobs reminds me of the dearly departed Rik Mayal, a true master of comedy violence. So well done team, I hope the swelling didn't impede the ride! Ooh er...
i grew up watching bottom!