Lol,I will choose shinjutsu . Shinjutsu = divine miracle / godlike ability If you know shinjutsu , if we use only one of shinjutsu , we can solo OP vers .🤣🤡.
IMAGINE IF AFTER THAT THE ALL JUSTU USER USE THE RINNEGAN SIX PATHS OF PAIN WHILE THE ALL DEVIL FRUIT USER USE THE NOMI NOMI NO MI SIX PATHS OF PUNK TO GET 13 BODIES TO FIGHT AT THE SAME TIME
I had a debate with a Naruto fanboy about this topic all jutsu versus all fruits. I didn't even think of this combination but he's the one that presented it to me lmao But still tried to argue that Naruto could get out of it
It would be unbeatable unless the character has hax negation , or massively outspeeds the person who has all devil fruits, or massively outpowers the person who has the combo.
@@luffylengthEida's Shinjutsu is enough to win. Madra's limbo clone coat his hand in chakra and slices his head simple neither you can see it nor you can enter in his dimension with devil fruit first of all those eyes can see within human not in other dimension door fruit or teleportation fruit allow you to travel in your own door dimension not in other dimension otherwise Minato had teleported in other dimension as well.
Remember People, This isn't a powerscaling contest its about which power is simply better, think of it like this, If 2 Madaras With the exact same stats fought eachother then you gave one a devil fruit and let another use a jutsu that corresponds to that devil fruit because of it being similar, who would win? (No he doesn't have any Dojutsu and stuff but assume He has Full mastery over both and his usual Taijutsu)
I think the yami yami no mi allows the user to eat another devil fruit because it is nothingness and it doesnt clash with the other devils from the devil fruits, and darkness absorbs everything so it takes away the "devil" that causes the user of more than one fruit explode
Sup steinixos , first of all I enjoyed the video , secondly - I know you are one piece king in term of versus battle and etc. Are you going to talked about other shonen and mahwa show/ manga on your channel in the near future and finally I will continue to support channel and it success as well. Happy New Year's lol I'm looking forward for more one piece power scaling video and other anime as well
@@Steinixos hmm nice and I think last chapter I stopped at was 550 before the author take a break and boy - baam is too powerful same goes for rak and kuun
One is too vast and wacky for things like this, and it's why one piece is so great. Also it's so funny when you hear "it just so happens that I'm the one piece world... so and so... exists that directly counters the jutsu."
They can travel in their own dimension not in other dimension so Limbo is enough they can't travel to other planet sorry to say that they pirates not Aliens who travel from world to world and devour planets.
Hold on Just realised something It’s a stomp on the Devil Fruits’ side Purely because of Logia’s, sure, you could say “what about their elements weaknesses?” Ok, fair point, but what about the Pika Pika no Mi? Something that physically can’t have a elemental weakness So yeah, devil fruits stomp
Doesn’t Naruto universe have shadow ninjutsu and idk why people saying there’s no elemental weakness to light when darkness exsist im pretty sure darkness or the shadow likenblakcbeard devil fruit would counter kizaru without haki. And won’t Blackbeard fruit be passively activated and therefore attack would work on him
@@owenwang6528 The light fruit has no elemental counter, if an elemental counter is not explicitly stated, it does not exist. As for Blackbeard's fruit, it's interesting. Attacks don't pass through him, rather, he has to absorb them into himself instead. However, this isn't passive, and so if an attack hits him or if he doesn't absorb it properly, it will do even more damage than it normally would due to the gravitational characteristics of "dark"
@@owenwang6528the reason why you can't just assume devil fruits have an elemental weakness is because many things that would make sense as elemental counters just aren't. for example, wood is an insulator, and therefore would make sense as a elemental counter to the Goro Goro no Mi, since it would stop the flow of electricity. however, Enel's intangibility worked perfectly fine against wooden spears, and he was able to destroy massive wooden trees with no problem
19:25 C0 is not even good to begin with because it literally kills you first because you are at the center of the explosion because you are the explosion
I don't remember that ability, but saying there is such a jutsu then all Devil Fruits also has the memory fruit that can remove memories. same argument, but worse. Jutsu user wouldn't remember how to control or use chakra let alone jutsus. @@garvpatwal5787
I can say the same for jutsu this guy is defending devil fruit why would he debunk himself even though almost most of his point are debunkable still Omnipotence is enough.
If Brooks power worked as explained, devil fruits side should gain immortality if killed once, because their body is already intangible and brooks power severe the limitations it had. Basically, haki and water would still affect the user, but they won't die and Marco's fruit will gradually reassemble their whole body.
I don't really know much about Naruto but Jutsus imply mastery of the technique as oppose to devil fruits which means they just have abilities, so they would not know best on how to use those abilities, the DF users get there passives like auto turning into a element but they still would not understand everything they can do.
So in a way, DF are just more useful if not completely broken against most Justus. While I love the Justus in Naruto; DF in One Piece are just much, much better in terms of power and viability.
i mean you can combine flying raijin eight gate 100 healing kamui GENJUTUSU itachi and kakashi susano rinnigan abilities sealing Jutsu particle release saskue and madara rinnigans abilities can absorb attacks beside physical ones truth seeking orbs and more than 1000 clones with this hack
the devil fruit user just needs to hit them once, turn them into a toy, OR using doffys fruit to have complete control over their body, plus we could see a combination of devil fruit attacks, like kaidos blazing bagua but with akainus magma
@@lovelife-cv8mn no lmao hagaromo had and ability called creation of all Thing's which he didn't need to lose his eyesite to use Izanagi was basically just a cheap copy of that ability
@@Soso-us3dr were is this said in Naruto, because if he could then Naruto and Sasuke should be invinsible since they had his powers, and hagoromo technically shouldn't have died as he did in the anime, what you're saying is a speculation of how the creation of all things works.
I want you to think of this scenario: A verse battle between One Piece and Tower of God. The latter is a manhwa series that shares a lot of similarities with One Piece but in contrasts features a considerably darker and more complex plot. It also has a variety of powers that in my opinion would prove an interesting challenge for the One Piece world.
Don’t worry, I read tower of god. It is one of my favorite manhwas. Plan to do some content on it soon But I don’t know if I’ll do anymore big videos like this for a while
@@Steinixos you should check out God of highschool as well and this jutsu vs devil fruit was perfect send off for year 2022 👌😎💯💯 I hope your channel continue to grow
Can you make video about reiatsu crush/soul crush from bleach? Can bleach character reiatsu crush character that has no reiatsu like character from other anime? I see people saying aizen can beat goku by using reiatsu crush because goku has no reiatsu
reiatsu crush is useless unless your strength is way higher, thats literally how it works in the bleach verse. dragon balls version of reiatsu crush is literally just destroying everything by powering up, which is based on your strength which means it can be planet level to universal etc. reiatsu crush is bs from bleach wankers. aizen can still win tho
Also it’s just the durability of the shadow clones that varies. The clones have equal strength and speed to the original, so they would shift the battle greatly.
That was a blatant lie, it’s been said multiple times that a clone is only a portion of the original’s strength. This was said by one of y’all “planetary” characters-Kakashi, who y’all never seem to listen to when it matters
@@reesesxp6335 Naruto splits chakra between the clones evenly. Kakashi was literally talking about the difference between the clone jutsu Naruto was supposed to learn in class and the actual clones Naruto makes. Naruto has multiple times had clones disappear after a single hits to then maintain one that takes a beating that gives the impression that it was really him. So besides the clones literally having selective durability they are equal to the original. A jutsu from a clone will have the same strength as the original.
@@onesmart229 He literally said “Strength of the clone” not the jutsu made from a clone. Stop making up headcanons without actual fact. Even with clones having “sElecTive DuraBiLiTy” that still wouldn’t change the fact that they’re weaker and die much easier to attacks that the original can either dodge or just take. See how head canon is faulty when put next to actual facts presented by the story itself?
@@reesesxp6335 you realize in beginning of Naruto we see 2 different clone jutsu early on. One is an illusion and one is actual clones. The clones have equal strength and speed to the original. You need to actually read the series.
@@onesmart229 That’s from what you’re watching and assuming dummy.😂😂 A clone can fight for a period of time but that would still make the clone weaker than the original (Making the original stronger) since shadow clones split chakra into each one (Meaning the original is left with less chakra than before the shadow clones were used)
that would be so strong if the jutsu user damages the fruit user they take the damage and the fruit user is unharmed because of logia and can even regrow the body part back with robinx fruit
i dont think there is a limitation on jitsu because all jitsus can be created. devil fruits however are quirky and and there are also limits to them because they rely on the stamina of the user. some users can do more with their fruit powers but that same user will eventaully get tired. its the reason why luffy sometimes use that to his advantage.. devil fruits options are limitless but so are jitsus, taijitsus as well
@@bkztopkilla09 Df user don't die just because of water. Its not a death sentence. They only get weakend and may drown, yet the abilitys affect still exist. The Df user literally still have to go through the process of dying by drowning.
and the stamina problem is easily fixed because of the paw paw fruit that simply allows the user to reject fatigue from their own body he said that in the video if you were listening. Zoan type devil fruits also increase the stamina and all other physical stats of a user so stamina will never be a problem.
@@edwardkanu8328 also to ad it 90% of the devil fruits does not effect the user in anyway shape or form depending on the devil fruit there isn’t definite on limit beside user comprehension
I thought it should be most baised scaler though he is not at fault because he is not debating with other and he is trying to let the Devil fruit win almost all of his point are debunkable.
@@rowmein First instead of Debunking his points I am telling you those jutsu who are unparalleled. Omnipotence change the reality it can change the person's own identity, Kawaki's Daikodan it's a time space where time didn't exist it mean if you are trapped you can't even think anything but how can he trap him answer is Amenominka Kaguya's jutsu using it he can summon Daikodan, Karma sealing Otsutsuki use this to revive them on another person body even if my character die he will be revived in DF user body, Charm using it every one will fall in love with the user, Daemon Shinjutsu even if you think of hurting him you will get hurt. Also we don't know Jougan's ability but according to anime it grants you what it takes to defeat your enemy if your enemy weakness is light it will provide you if weakness is time it will provide you that.
@@garvpatwal5787Robin’s plus Sugar’s fruit would already be enough. The DF user could pop hands out of the jutsu user body, and as soon as the DF user touches the jutsu user than the jutsu user would turn into a toy puppet. Uta’s fruit literally transport the opponent into the dream world and the DF man can do whatever he wants in their because he would have complete control. Daemon’s ability is literally the same as Bartholemao’s barrier fruit. Boa’s fruit can turn people into stone if they fall in love. There is not much the jutsu user can do in order to beat the devil user. DF user also have Perona’s devil fruit. So if a hollow passes through the justu user, then he will fall to his knees and think negatively about himself.
you didnt mention hagaromos use of the all things jutsu. he can do whatever wants. including changing imagination into reality with no downsides. he can turn off or remove the devil fruits from the user the same way he can extract tailed beasts.
1. Hagamoro still only manipulated chakra. Everthing he does requires something else to still posess chakra and have a chakra network. 2. And why would it work on living creatures that already exist. He's never used it on anything actaully alive. 3. If he could use it freely. What is he removing when Df aren't energy. Or something just sitting in or produced from the eaters body. Df users are mutants, they're changed on the genetic level.
@@peltycrikts6990 creation of all things is not a jutsu. its a senjutsu. an ability that surpasses jutsu.its imagination given form. he can do anything he wants. accept it.
@@qtindavis433 And yet you've failed to explain where I was wrong. And only contradicts how you've understood, justsu. And that senjustu is still justsu. As that's how the justsu Senjusu works. Still requires chakra to use on something that's chakra. And chakra that mixed with Nartual chakra energy of that earth. That's still technically a Naruto thing. The use of Creation of all things by the Sage of Sixth Paths. Turned Chakra into living creatures aka Bijuu. Manipulating the chakra in the enviroment. He's never been known to manipulate actual living creatures. Especially those without a Chakra network. The same applies to Inzanagi. The user casted the Genjustu on themselves to alter their reality.
@@peltycrikts6990 I'm not reading all of that. if anything you wrote is saying he can't give imagination form and do anything he wants. then thats your mental handicap. you can argue with yourself. he created 9 lifeforms one which is stated to be able to destroy the world from a creation that was going to destroy the world, by separating its power. he can separate barely island level characters from their powers. make peace with it. but I'm done.
This video is not evenly matched up at all it’s clearly a defense case for devil fruit abilities being better than jutsu which is entirely up to your opinion
It’s not he went over several abilities the devil fruits are just more op. You can take buggy and put him in Naruto and he would be at minimum Kage level just from having the chop chop fruit. The Naruto verse has heavy hitters but the VAST majority of it is very weak
@@garvpatwal5787 shebai existed before jutsus where a thing and his techniques are not jutsu nor ninjutsu or dogutsu or senjutsu so that woukd go against the video
Okay. If teleportation counts as a win condition then Naruto wins easily. You are hugely overexaggerating One Piece's teleportation abilities. The Door Door fruit hasn't been shown to be able to go literally anywhere. It's ability is to make a door of out anything. If you make the door on air you have the "space between air." There's no indication this fruit can even teleport much less DIMENSION HOP. The Mirror Mirror fruit isn't every mirror in existence. It's explicitly the mirrors around whole-cake island. It has a range. And that range certainly isn't extradimensional. Warp Warp fruit is unquantifiable. We have no idea what it can do besides teleport around an island. Kakashi single Kamui without sage path powers can teleport the whole eight tails and gedomazo. Not to mention Kaguya dimension warping. Kamui makes the jutsu user pretty much invincible. It's pretty much Katakuri Tier dodging except completely automatic. Aging doesn't matter. Tons of naruto characters are immune to aging. Hidan. Kakazu. One piece can't age characters to death so even Orochimaru body steal. Sasori (Mature Mature fruit requires physical contact). The only way the DF user can harm this is through their shadow. But funnily enough if they get close enough to their shadow to touch it they just get shadow possessed and then a clone finished them off. (Assuming he doesn't do the same thing with mind transfer jutsu before hand)
@@PlanScare not wasting my time on debunking a fallacious argument. i would appreciate if you debunk that long ass baseless paragraph, if you have time ofc.
@@criswasbornin Then your previous statement holds no weight since your not willing to explain why he’s wrong. It’s not that I necessarily agree with him but I’m not the one calling him out
@@PlanScare its literally easily to identify the contradiction rationally. which is why i dont want to want to waste my time. its fallacious thats all you need to know.
@@leakingFaith Bro flying isn’t a big deal fujitora flys on a rock and can throw multiple meteors at people also most people could dodge onoki particle style
@@dylankacam Madara meteors are like a thousand times bigger and onoki stopped one all he gotta do is super weighting him then particle style and he dead
There's a clone clone devil fruit that was shown in a live action play that was stated to create clone of anything and anyone with all the skill and ability of the person and or objects. The only downside to this devil fruit is that the clone object or peaple are physically weaker then the original and need to be touch by the user of the clone clone fruit but that's about it. Also the clone has to listen to the user of the clone clone fruit if its a clone of a living creature and can even use the same fighting style of the original person. That about all I know. Pretty op, just imagine a army of kaidos running. Yah thay might be weaker then the original kaido but still op.
Do you think can these people solo one piece verse: Shibai otsutsuki Yhwach Meliodas Lucius zolgratis Makima Satoru gojo Namek saga frieza Shinra banshoman
*Yhwach and Frieza* • Would win 100% (Frieza was already a planet/star buster by this time, Yhwach is basically hax embodied in physical form). *Shinra* • No idea, he's probably stronger than the Arthur that cut the planet in half, but at speed I'm in doubt. Since while you can argue that he is immeasurable for being able to go back / forward in time with just speed, it can also be argued that he is only FTL, since in real life, the speed of space-time = the speed of light, and that's why there is nothing capable of going faster than it, since if something were, it would probably distort reality and would allow the speedster to literally travel through time (basically Speed Force in DC). *Makima and Lucius* • Would lose but have a little chance to win. If we take into account that Makima would still have the power of the contract she made with the 1st minister, then the OP characters would have a lot of difficulty, since she would have more than 100 million lifes, and if you take into account that the japanese will not die automatically (since they can survive the accidents and diseases), then the number would almost double, the only way to defeat her that way would be a character with monstrous stamina or someone capable of slowing down her regeneration(of course, if she still had that ability, which she probably wouldn't), we also have other powers from her that could be used in the fight, such as the contract with the mold demon, also that other unknown ability, which she simply pointed at the darkness demon and he took damage, the contract with the angel demon and the katana demon and her passive ability to control anyone she thinks is inferior to her, but she would need to defeat the person at least 1 time (there are others, but those would be the only useful ones). • As for Lucius, I really don't know what to say, I just know that he is able to create spheres, and manipulate time inside them, i would need more information to do an analysis. *Gojo* • 50 / 50, if he activated domain expansion in time he would leave anyone on the verse paralyzed, after that it is just a matter of using the purple lapse, which disintegrates basically everything, but before that he would probably be speedblitz(he already made a video of why mugen wouldn't work). *Meliodas and Shibai* • I literally have no idea, I don't read Boruto and I've never watched/read NNT.
Depends on if you mean all the verse in one person or all the characters verse them either way one piece verse winning that cause hobby hobby no mi is a son of a bitch isnt it
More of an opinionated video, imo, but still a fun idea nonetheless. The Perfect Susanno isn’t losing to any single devil fruit in terms of visual size, tho - it’s literally relative to the curvature of the earth.
there's a devil fruit that literally takes your current size and multiplies it by 100. Then there's the dragon fruit, which takes your size and multiplies it further. Then there's the gum gum fruit which multiplies your size by several hundred. a giant giant, dragon dragon, gum gum man would likely be larger than the earth. We're dealing in exponential growth. And those aren't even 1% of the fruits that increase your size. Just imagine using every zoan at the same time. Just taking monster point from chopper, dragon transformation from kaido, and sun god form from luffy would be enough to eclipse susano'o dozens of times over. susasno'o is the god of the sea, but those three zoan fruits alone would be larger than the whole planet.
@@Reallyjoyboyfr he's referencing the panel where madara first reveals his perfect susano'o. In that panel, the earth is drawn as a curve to make the susano'o look bigger. It's never again drawn anywhere near that size, so most people chalk it up to visual effect, but this guy clearly stands by it being that big.
Orochimaru and Sasuke are implied to be immune to most poisons and venoms. When Sasuke is effected by the Menos venoms claws Sakura mentioned that to effect Sasuke it has to be a venom that’s completely foreign to them.
A devil fruit containing multiple variations of poison is foreign, especially one that only has an antidote if you get a sample of the poison itself, not just figuring out what different formulas were used to cure one like sakura. Sasuke also never fights against a poison that turns you into stone on top of poisoning you. Poison in naruto isn’t that strong, Even Hanzo’s poison is weaker than Magellan’s. Hanzo’s took days of agonizing pain while Magellans took 12 hours having the exact same effect and that was just his base poison, He has an even more powerful poison form
@@reesesxp6335 firstly I was just clearing the misinformation that Sasuke and Orochimaru aren’t immune/resistant to most poisons and venoms. Poison in Naruto is very strong. Orochimaru has been to the land of the snake sage so him knowing about a venom that can turn you to stone is possible considering Garaga is there.
@@onesmart229 Yes use boruto’s Snake that you didn’t even know existed before Boruto😂😂 but OK. So then has sasuke (even after learning from orochimaru) been shown to counter a poison that “petrifies you from contact” or is that just more speculation considering he’s been shown to be weak weaker poisons soo….. Not to mention Devil fruit would still beat Jutsu in this regard considering garaga uses spit which can easily be dodged and with Caesar, you’d actually need to come into contact with him to fight and he can be made of his petrification gas
@@Steinixos you said there was no implication or statements confirming Orochimaru or Sasuke had immunity/resistance to poisons and venoms which is incorrect. So I was just clearing up that point.
@@dinoplug2987 no dude, Obito's Kamui. Devil fruit user has absolutely no way of touching jutsu user, and all victory situations presented in ghe video are based on df user touching the Jutsu user Like it's the most obvious flaw in logic, this video is kinda ass xd
Imagine 5000 (naruto can use 5000 at once) shadow clones kamui every little piece of the logia into pits or Amaterasu all with flying raijin shooting particle dismantling jutsu. This video could go either way depending on who you’re arguing for with imagination.
you kinda made a mistake u said the brooks fruit would allow to stop edo tensei but it wouldnt work unless they die,but then u said if they die they could be revived if there was a body after so will he be using brooks fruit,ior not?
Let me jump to jutsu man's defense for a minute. What about sealing jutsu? Sure, they aren't powerful enough to hold the massively buffed fruity boy, and our juiced up man can teleport out, but what if many layers of sealing jutsu are applied at the same time? Space time seals can prevent teleportation, and Minato uses a seal that cuts off external connections in his fight with Obito, so there go potential outside help options. Then layering several sealing jutsu at once over the citrussy individual should hold him in place. He could use four clones to make that one purple box thing. That allowed the sound four to resist several anbu and two kage level fighters, and allowed the four hokage to block several bombs from the ten tails. So it can be argued that the seal is powerful enough to contain the walking fruit salad. I do see one out for our overripe gentleman, though. He could warp himself a few minutes into the future with the toki toki no mi, and catch the jutsu user off guard. I'm also sure there are other outs I haven't thought of, so I'll present plan B, also using sealing jutsu. The four tag sealing jutsu that the akatsuki use to protect themselves in the first arc of shippuden. The jutsu is unbreakable by any means except for removing the four tags, so the jutsu user can lock themselves in a box. They could place a space time seal on banana man, and then place themselves inside of the protected space. The tree grown combatant would feel quite sour at this development. He would follow his fruity instincts posthaste, and get to peeling. However, each time he peels a tag, a clone of himself spawns to fight him. It's now fruit vs fruit, and though the comparison may be apples to oranges, since all of team guy could defeat their doppelgangers, our foe must lay down the fruit punch four times in a row. That much blending is sure to make quick work of the enemy, and the jutsu user would leave his box to find a well prepared smoothy. Now that I'm done presenting my two options for a sealing jutsu victory, I feel I should disclose my bias. I'm a much bigger fan of one piece than I am of naruto, though I've read through naruto in it's entirety several times, with the most recent being about two months ago. I find that naruto's highest highs can reach the same points that one piece can, but the lows are more frequent and go far lower imo. So that's my bias, thank you for reading.
Couldn't the fruit user make a door from the wall thing, it isn't breaking it? also couldn't fruit person the use ope ope no mi, spit in the air and swap the jutsu user inside the box with the spit? Very odd ways of doing things but still works. If it's fruit guy v fruit guy, than the original fruit guy can just leave into air door dimension sprout a bunch of hands making multiple airdrops, and just tap and turn the fruit guy clones into toys?
@@SamuelRondreigz4720 If fruit man can do something, alternate fruit man can as well. If he retreats to the door door dimension, his clone can follow. If he can turn his enemy into a toy, his opponent can do the same. It would be a very difficult fight no matter what, and he would have to do it four times. Also, if a space time seal is in effect, no teleportations should be able to work. The jutsu user could place a flying raijin seal inside his safe box, and when he's pulled out by fruit man, just return. Upon returning, he can place a space time seal on himself, or incorporate one into the walls.
@@SamuelRondreigz4720 yeah, for sure. Honestly, both of my solutions require the jutsu user to perform dozens of hand signs before they become even remotely safe. Since stats are equalized, that means that the devil fruit user gets several dozen actions in that time as well. And since devil fruits only require one action for use, while jutsus require several, that puts the devil fruit user ahead in speed. Basically, my solution only really works if the devil fruit person makes several dumb moves in a row. My argument was just that once he was already in the situation, it would be pretty tough to get out.
counte:awakened gomu gomu streches your unbreakable box like a bow and arrow into mirror world portal. then uses the poison fruit magma fruit sand fruit gas fruit and all aoe fruits to floood the immediate area around the box so whever you want to escape you are burned poisned poisoin and other things and all i had to do was make you box urself. and to counter the first one you cant hold him into place regardless of the amount of space limiting factors the fruity boy can just use his various body altering fruits to change his physical aspect plus how do you respect wind?
What does an all Fruit powered user do against someone with Kamui? Edit: Wow I just heard what you did for the dojutsu use in the beginning of the video. U literally limited the use of dojutsu capabilities only down towards Kaguya’s even though you stated all Justus where gonna be used for the user, it’s even in the title of the video… So does that mean Kamui and other ocular Justus don’t count? If that’s the case then this is kinda unfair for the Naruto side. Edit#2: Oh that was a contradicted statement u do use other ocular abilities
@@yogiri8739 The Justu is ‘Visual based’. The Sharingan can Perceive Light, so not even light can escape this jutsu from tagging it, which it only needs to do once for a BFR ( Battlefield removal). (Edit: Also If you were implying that Light can escape, Obito has shown that he absorb’s ppl in and out of Kamui instantaneously and even Minato agrees he has a better space-time ninjutsu.)
Don't know, Gaara can control sand and Crocodile is made of sand, so could Gaara remove Crocodile's sand aspect from his human part? Would it work like with jinchuuriki? What could Crocodile do to overcome Gaara's control? Would Crocodile overpower chakra because he can manipulate pure sand without it?
You are actually incorrect early on in the vid, as you say there are no named jutsu that can increase or decrease the weight of an individual, when there literally is. The 3rd tsuchikage onoki (and the second tsuchikage Mu) have the lightweight bolder jutsu which allows them to become lighter to the point where they can fly, become significantly faster and ohnoki can even lift up and island with one hand. On top of that, onoki has the weighted bolder jutsu which make him significantly heavier and makes him way more physically powerfull. Also you brought up Magellan’s corrrsive poison as a counter for the susanso, despite the mizukage mei’s one corrosive acid not being able to do anything to Madara lower levels of susano despite being submerged in a pol of her acid, and even though Sasuke’s was melted by mei boil reLease acid, that was the weakest form of Susano, and as I mentioned it did nothing the madara’s huger stages And I mean no disrespect, but it seems like you went into the video not knowing enough about the catalogue of jutsu in Naruto, as you mention a group of jutsu for every category, and then just explain how or why the devil fruit’s version are Better or how there are more of them, when there is hundreds of different jutsu just in the application category that if you quickly mention, the sheer volume and number of jutsu would then outclass the devil fruits of that category, so listing the devil fruits and saying why they are better with out giving that many examples of justu just ends of downplaying the justu and dismissing any of the other ones that could be used against the devil fruits
Pretty sure he mentioned the justs'u that Onoki and Mu use and there are a lot more jutsu's than df but you gotta consider one piece hax and the abilities one df can have.
@@Mariama_Kane I mean I am considering the Hax that devil fruits have, even considering non-canon and movie devil fruits (which I would) there just isn’t enough devils fruits to account for the massive arsenal of justu’s and the numerous variations of each, yes devil fruits are insanely hax, but even if Every justu’s abilities were only 1/3 as broken as devil fruit abilities, the SHEER NUMBER of Jutsu would be enough to (nearly) compensate, but since there are NUMEROUS justu just as broken as even the MOST haxxed devil fruits, the devil fruits literally just don’t compare
@@Mariama_Kane even if you said lightning style wouldn’t work because of of luffy’s fruit, (among others) you’re still clearly aren’t understanding the massive scope of Jutsu and their effects, as once again I could name probably hundreds of jutsus that could work with no counter. And saying that most offensive justu wouldn’t work is and incredibly bold claim that just blatantly isn’t true
@@hey_your_boi_mike_here5025 I do understand the amount of jutsus but it’s clear a majority won’t work literally every single nature transformation won’t work and a lot of jutsuts are based around those nature release.
@@nicholascommey7718 Yes and who said that he is moon level he can fight someone who is that strong but not Moon level sort of because there is a way to prove him moon lvl
@@Steinixos I’d have to disagree i think aida and her brother’s abilities are super op along with shibai otsutsuki. If boruto isn’t included I’d give the edge to df user but still think you can make a case for both depending on how you look at it. But Boruto included jutsu got it. I mean Aida’s ability alone forces you to love her making it impossible to harm her. It’s like a step above Boa Hancock’s ability because hers doesn’t force you to be attracted to her.
@@nf5322 yo they haven't finished shinjutsu stuff as yet , so hold on the meantime. Until they gave us more information about these ostushiki techniques
@nf5322 So thats a body modification. it is not a jutsu as far as i'm aware (or at the very least it is not a shinjutsu unless momoshiki is mistaken) But irregardless, it doesn't carte blanche prevent use of powers. Shikamaru was still able to use his shadow possession. thus our shadow shadow fruit user still has free reign to remove the users shadow. and again, It obviously wouldn't be able to stop a touch(since it’s not harm being done), which as we already discuss is unavoidable in this instance
@@Steinixos well i heard they got their powers from shibai otsutsuki so it was originally a jutsu buy they where built to have the power. And you can’t harm her or do anything that would harm her. And daemon if you even think about harming him it will be reflected back onto you.
There are flaws in these arguments. 1) One HUGE flaw in your argument is that you didnt mention the creation of all things jutsu from hagaromo. That is literally the most powerful jutsu to date allow him to create and manipulate reality at will. Anything from his imagination comes to reality. Izunagi and izunami are literally rip offs of creation of all things. He wouldn't even need to use either because he has the original jutsu. 2) Magma fruit is not on par with amaterasu. Amaterasu would consume magma. It consumes anything it touches. The only legit counter is the darkness fruit. 3) you wouldnt be able to take control of any summons. Because with sharingan they can just be repossessed and mind controlled. I only bring this up because aside from the fodder summons. They will be able to summon the tailed beast. Which can also be forcefully controlled by the sharingan. 4) most of these status effects wouldnt work on the all jutsu user either. Because they can turn into water, you forgot konan which can also divide herself into paper. If you dont catch all of her she will come right back together. Or kakezan who can rearrange and has perfect control over all his molecules basically making any transformation or manipulation of his body by others useless. He can also phase through solid matter. Plus aging an immortal would do very little. 4)you wouldn't be able to counter edo tensei unless you were strong than the edo tensei user. And if we are giving them sage of six paths + senjutsu. Also with hagaromos Yin Yang release he is the king of the dead and living souls. He could snatch back any souls u tried to take and reanimate them at will. paw paw has never been shown to eject souls thats a reach. 5) the all df user could NOT see limbo clones. Sasuke could see them with the rinnegan because its literally a SAGE OF SIX PATH DO JUTSU. it was just a hard specific counter. So unless u had sage of six path energy u cant even sense them or touch them. But they can touch you. So that special eye df would have no bearing. 6) Sealing. Um we are talking ALL JUTSU HERE. One piece has no counter to the tatsuka blade. Its use restriction is being itachi. It cannot be stolen from itachi as it is a part of itachis own chakra awakened by his MS. So if he hits its a seal. Then there are sealing guords that can be used like the crimson gourd or the amber purifying gourd that can suck in a everything. Or the gate of the great technique by hashirama which immobilizes its opponents and seals all movement . as for time travel. He could use creation of all things to either create a jutsu to time travel or create an artifact to time travel like what happen when Boruto time travel. 7)he could create any jutsu he needs. And analyze all things. After analyzing the all df user the all jutsu user can copy and counter any ability used. Or restore himself from all negative effects. 8) also like you stated s06p can heal back eyes so he could use Izunagi and izunami on repeat. The only reason kakashi didn't get sharingan back is cause that wasn't his original eye to begin with. So we could infer that the heal brings back the original eye. which for this characters would be the sharingan that closed. Also Naruto wasnt as powerful as Hagaromo who had the creation of all things technique.
1)creation of all things is not reality manipulation if so where is it stated and shown to do so 3) summons are practically useless since they them selves do not have the abilities of there summoner most of them are at risk of being used against him with The nori nori no mi df that allows the user to control any thing they ride such as the Pacifista. 4) most in not all logias can do a lot better besides that water is not real water or paper its chakra that has been given the qualities of those elements while the all df user can make an unlimited amount of the element they need plus water can be frozen and paper can be burnt 4)the ope-ope no mi exists and since our all df user has unlimited stamina via the horm-horm df and is also immortal due to ope-ope no df meaning he can make a room as big as he wishes to personality swap the edotensie since he has been shown to be able to interact with souls or shadows he can simply take those away and send them to future to when the sun is bright or he can swap there shadows controlling them from then on. 5) the limbo clones have only been shown to be only been shown to be capable of physical attacks which are use less since the df user can leave to the his various dimensions that are inaccessible to them. 6) agreed seals are useless since most can be escaped by just teleporting or our df user can just do what Orochimaru did the gouards seems familiar to the darkness df and immobilizes u upon contact but then again we can not create new jutsu cuz as u heard any df can exist as well so no creating jutsus but a better option is Urashiki who can warp to the past by several seconds so do it a bunch and ur back. 7) he cant if he does not have the jutsus or dojutsus for example the hobby hobby no mi he cant use his abilities if he is a toys cuz he wont have them toys dont have chakra networks to begin with or the art art df he will lose his powers thats why they are win conditions. 8)head cannon you can not prove that because it was never drawn or stated by the mangaka (and isnt the original eye the eye had before even unlocking the tomoe or stealing a relatives eye Sasuke stole Itachi's eyes of there sharingan like if Toneri lost one of his tenseigan would he also gain it back or his from birth beyakugan) This is why I hate too much headcannon
Technically speaking, anything the jutsu user has CAN be countered by the DF user thanks to bonney’s twisted future ability; allowing the user to become any version of themselves regardless of how outlandish it seems as long as they believe it’s possible. So outright creating counters to other jutsu abilities is very much possible.
@@Mazdha haha I just remembered why I didn't respond to you🤣. Cuz I just tried again and TH-cam keeps deleting my post. I was too pissed to rewrite the whole thing.
well use infinite tsukuyomi And don't say it wouldn't work to a person with no chakra remember when kaguya activate the first infinite tsukuyomi human don't have chakra before haguromo share his chakra to everyone and you can't counter it even you have an strong will,chakra or you know the handseal because it's infinite the only thing to release the jutsu is to seal the caster
For the use of Infinite Tsukuyomi, you need the Shinju fruit. For the fruit, you need the tree itself. Luff cuts the tree with the door door fruit and shits om your verse
@@Роман-е7к7з Lmao you didn't watch Naruto did you. Once you are in the state of having both Byakugan and a Rinnesharingan you have already eaten the fruit. The Infinitie Tsukyomi would end the fight no questions asked.
All Creation Jutsu is the shit the Sage of six paths has. And so they can just instantly recreate themselves. Or you can just use infinite shadow clones across a planet to gather endless nature chakra and just spam truth seeker orbs and Amaterasu until the other person is dead. Or you can just hide in the Kamui dimension and use immortality gained from infinite regeneration and reincarnation to just **wait for the heat death of the universe** and the other person to be hit by a wandering black hole. Or just use Dust Release and vaporize them. Or the ketsugan and make the person explode. Or instant mine destroy them with genjutsu (I’m equalizing verse’s powers, cope and seethe harder about me giving a shot about thr indended mechanics of the verse). Or they could use reaper death seal via a shadow clone or just simply use the human path for an instant kill. Or just wrap themselves in truth seeker orb armor. (Unless the shadow devil fruit lets you materialize in the shadow inside of someone’s clothes or body). OR!!! **they can use water Justus to make sea water and just roll the devil fruit user.** I’m really sorry, but devil fruits just don’t compare to a verse where god himself **used Justus** to create the world and give people powers and you give someone all Justus.
I myself is a big one piece fan and I must point out that this guy is very biased and one sided, he always points out that the all devil fruit used has to do to the all jutsu user is touch them and turn them to a toy or suck out their energy etc and the all jutsu user has no way of touching or counteract the all devil fruit user because they have logia abilities which makes them intangible but he fail to mention that the all jutsu user has intangibility as well through kamui therefore the devil fruit user has no way of touching the jutsu user as well
There is quite a big difference. Logia is passively through no effort intangible. Jutsu user needs to activate a jutsu that drains chakra to be intangible. They would both be intangible for a while, but eventually the jutsu user would either need to rest or run out of chakra and die.
I don’t wanna say too much, but I feel like you didn’t do proper research because you say that the limbo clones only do physical attack, but in the anime, they were literally using Sassano’s and you can’t just casually dismiss what is stated in the data book.
The all devil fruit can heal himself of any and all injuries because there's a devil fruit that called the heal heal fruit from the dresrosa ark and is own by the dwarf princess.
I was going to ask for an All Stands User vs an All Jutsu User or all Devil Fruit user fight and then I realized that it's even more unfair against the Jutsu or Devil User. The Stand user has C-Moon/Echoes Act 3 plus Green Day, multiple forms of time manipulation, 3 ungodly defensive Stand abilities in the form of GER, D4C: LT, and WoU, also some insanely high fire power in the form of Tusk Act 4, Go Beyond, just being turned into a bomb, or punched to death by the powerhouse Stands. We have infinite speed with Made in Heaven, precognition with Epitaph, and several near insta-kill stands like the Hand and Cream. Also Heavy Weather and Metallica exists. Can't really fight when you are turned into snails and the iron in your blood turns to razor blades and needles. The only other heavy hitter out of the Big Three that I can see sorta challenging the All Stand User would be the All Quincy Power user from Bleach. Mostly cause of how busted some of the Quincy powers are as well as the Almighty existing. Quincy power won't win, but I think it's full limit testing for the Almighty.
Very good video! The only thing would be that the moa moa no mi and the modo modo no mi are non canon and shouldn't count, but they wouldn't really impact meaningfully to the df user's power budget
@@LaceKing7 I sorta agree but it's better to stick to purely original source material for consistency and avoiding weird grey areas. Also the Moa Moa is not from a movie, but from a special
@@edwardkanu8328 logias aren't always active. also we know one of the ninjutus's gives you omnipotence and the ability to rewrite reality in anyway. so the ninjutusu guy just has the devil fruit guy die
@@theonetrueedgelord3596 who says Ligias arent always active, we’ve literally seen logia users like the mud guy in sabody get attacked and he isn’t confirmed to have observation haki yet he was caught off guard and people can’t kill him cuz of his mud if they don’t have haki, and the ninjitsu argument is just dumb literally makes no sense nothing to back it up
I think your heavily underastimsting the summons in Naruto Gamabunta specifically has been shown on a couple of occasions to swap hands with the tailed beasts. They are bot just Giant Toads they are intelligent and use sage Jutsu which means they are easily 100s if not 1000s of times stronger than a regular Animal of their size. Futhermore there is nothing to suggest that Tama's devil Fruit could tame them. The summonings in Naruto are bound by blood and more intelligent than any creature we have seen in One Piece so far. There is nothing that suggests that Tama's devil Fruit could override that. Same thing with the Shadow possesion technique once your caught your unable to move so cutting the Shadow is impossible. There is also nothing to suggest that the door door fruit could interact with the Limbo or Kamui as both Limbo and Kamui are compeltely different dimensions. The door door fruit has never been shown to be able to switch dimensions at will instead it is shown to have it's own pocket dimension similar to Kamui.
Ready... FIGHT! *Luffy Sees the Future...* Naruto: KAMU- Wha- huh?! Luffy: *_TURNS INTO LIGHT_* CIEN FLEUR! *Touches Naruto and Naruto becomes a Doll* Round 2... Ready... FIGHT! *Luffy Sees the future...* Naruto: KAGEBUNSHIN NO JUTSU! Naruto Clones: All preparing a different Jutsu Luffy: Room. *Turns all affected clones around him to be used as a meat shield.* Naruto: PARTICLE STYLE! Luffy: *PERONA GHOST ARMY SPAM* ROUND 3! FIGHT! *Luffy's Observation Haki sees the future* Naruto: AMATERASU! Luffy: *Flicks a Booger*, Booger is now lit by Amaterasu. Amaterasu Booger detonates on Naruto's face.
its funny that you didnt mention the izanami anywhere. another thing when hagoromo died he had both his rinnegans and rinnesharingan even though his used the izanagi before yet you said theres no proof that you can get your special eye back, plus its been stated that hagoromo can spam the izanagi so thats been debunked as well. you said theres no jutsu that increases strength, yes there is, ohnokis earth style which allows you to increase or decrease something or someones weight we see this when ohniki increased the raikages weight and the raikage punched an broke through the susanoo even though its an ultimate defence. next thing its been stated that in order to use the creation of all things properly you must understand what your making, naruto definitely doesnt understand what a sharingan is he just knows what some of its abilities are, you literally proved this in the video as obito stated it in the manga, thats been debunked. you also said that logias can see things from anywhere however forgot to mention they have to consciously activate that ability, its not passive, plus they have to focus and have their hands on their eyes, giving openings for attacks. there is also the substitution justu that wasnt mentioned, the shadow paralyse that was not mentioned, itachis tsukyomi, shisuis kotoamatsukai, the beast transformation jutsu that wasnt mentioned which increases all your senses, garis explosion ability which allows him to explode people from inside their body, the six paths chains, yaguras water style mirror reflection which allows you to reflect any attack back at you, kisames water bubble justu, killer bees ink ability which blinds you, meis vapor justu, black panther justsu which immobilizes you, tsunades 100 healings mitonic regeneration which basically makes you immortal. hagoromos soul manipulation, magnet release which immobilizes you, theres so many more jutsus that are either broken or have crazy effects that i havent mention like daimarus earth ability which allows him to completely manipulate the landscape, or even kabutos jutsus which allow him to change the structure of any landscape as he was able to turn the ground into giant heavy spikes and can even make shields, even better orochimarus shedding skin technique which makes him immortal as when he dies he can constantly shed his skin and a new healthy body comes out. last thing the truth seeking orbs does erase your soul or parts of your soul we see this from minato. minatos soul literally left the corpse he possessed and there were no arms there, theres no proof that a soul in naruto is ninjutsu so you sayin it just works on ninjutsu is wrong. you also said that when a soul in naruto is removed it goes to another location, which means it goes to the promised land where hagoromo and all the dead people reside, however logia users cant find that place as they dont know it exists or how to get there so they wont be able to get their souls back. this video is too biased
I agree that elements wouldn't work but this videos was mostly for op fans. Truth seeking orbs would nullify the soul, meaning it would be like haki to logia users but more versatile way. You haven't said anything about shadows clones or nothing. Limbo clones with ability would use shadow clones in that dimension and if the person goes inside that dimension, it would still work in the limbo clones favor since they got everything plus almost unlimited chakra. You haven't said any naruto jutsu that would work to give them a fighting chance fr. It was mostly "op character nullify everything naruto character throws at it" without mentioning the other jutsu that's in the verse
1st problem as im watching the video is that you said your going to use the jutsus that played a an impactful or were shown in the show or manga ( going off what i remember correct me if im wrong) but you start with chojis jutsu to start of with instaed of talking about something more useful like sage mode and then you compare chojis jutsu to devil fruits further down in one piece and call that fair the you brush over susano basically implying that the kaidos babbua and the other susano like creature can hurt them you didnt use any calcs t imlpy that these were bigger than the susano you basically kinda said they were bigger than it without saying it was bigger than it also vaporisation nor corrotion would work on susano because the susano is made of chackra you cant vaporise or corrode chakra and you said there wasnt any jutsu like the lilo kilo fruit you are completely wrong if you went back and watched the war arc you would know that onoki has the weighted boulder jutsu which can make light or heavy dont know how you could forget that and then you talk about baryon mode and 8 gates ( the wort things to use in this kind of fight ) and at the start you said your using someone like kaguya already the fight is over because of ininite tsukinome which doesnt require chackra if you knew how to powerscale you should atleats know this the only chance the one pice character stands is if the fight is deliberatly set at daytime just because of tis one jutsu which would be biased or if there was a devil fruit to repel illusions whhich i cant think of
Almost all of your argument are Debunkable but I can't make video in comment section your argument would be debunked if you are debating with someone else. How Hagoromo created tailed beast was using Izanagi without losing his eye still if you say you are wrong, no problem i give you all ponits I am assuming you win all the points. Jutsu user places Karma on Devil fruit user jutsu user dies and revive in Devil fruit users body. Daemon Shinjutsu can reflect every action then Eida's Shinjutsu enters the match erases opponents memories and opponents memories will tell him you are a fish he enters in the water and die.
Already said this last time haki beats devil fruit and jutsu and I choose all three Advanced types
Loooooll that’s wild
You choosing all 3 haki and their advance application over all df?
Nahh u fr?
Lol,I will choose shinjutsu .
Shinjutsu = divine miracle / godlike ability
If you know shinjutsu , if we use only one of shinjutsu , we can solo OP vers .🤣🤡.
@@Steinixos yo you Jamaican bro?
Guys think about it this way: What if the all jutsu user wears the all devil fruit user with the jacket fruit and then do some cool stuff togheter.
why would OP characters team up with anruto characters
@@Smileyfacegreat strength
@@a1piece ok thank im better alr but serioulsy i swear this guy still hasn't watched that video
IMAGINE IF AFTER THAT THE ALL JUSTU USER USE THE RINNEGAN SIX PATHS OF PAIN WHILE THE ALL DEVIL FRUIT USER USE THE NOMI NOMI NO MI SIX PATHS OF PUNK TO GET 13 BODIES TO FIGHT AT THE SAME TIME
The Hana Hana and hobi hobi devil fruits put together would literally be unbeatable
@@damn9512 or Guro Guro(Whitebeard's Fruit)
I had a debate with a Naruto fanboy about this topic all jutsu versus all fruits.
I didn't even think of this combination but he's the one that presented it to me lmao But still tried to argue that Naruto could get out of it
It would be unbeatable unless the character has hax negation , or massively outspeeds the person who has all devil fruits, or massively outpowers the person who has the combo.
@@luffylengthlolll
@@luffylengthEida's Shinjutsu is enough to win. Madra's limbo clone coat his hand in chakra and slices his head simple neither you can see it nor you can enter in his dimension with devil fruit first of all those eyes can see within human not in other dimension door fruit or teleportation fruit allow you to travel in your own door dimension not in other dimension otherwise Minato had teleported in other dimension as well.
Remember People, This isn't a powerscaling contest its about which power is simply better, think of it like this, If 2 Madaras With the exact same stats fought eachother then you gave one a devil fruit and let another use a jutsu that corresponds to that devil fruit because of it being similar, who would win?
(No he doesn't have any Dojutsu and stuff but assume He has Full mastery over both and his usual Taijutsu)
I think the yami yami no mi allows the user to eat another devil fruit because it is nothingness and it doesnt clash with the other devils from the devil fruits, and darkness absorbs everything so it takes away the "devil" that causes the user of more than one fruit explode
Thoroughly enjoyed this video
Sup steinixos , first of all I enjoyed the video , secondly - I know you are one piece king in term of versus battle and etc. Are you going to talked about other shonen and mahwa show/ manga on your channel in the near future and finally I will continue to support channel and it success as well.
Happy New Year's lol
I'm looking forward for more one piece power scaling video and other anime as well
yeah, i want to start doing Tower of God content but i need to re-read.
@@Steinixos hmm nice and I think last chapter I stopped at was 550 before the author take a break and boy - baam is too powerful same goes for rak and kuun
He edited the video and added 3 Minutes of bonus Content that's why he reuploaded.
Which part is bonus
Im not sure
Limbo clones and ash bone
One is too vast and wacky for things like this, and it's why one piece is so great.
Also it's so funny when you hear "it just so happens that I'm the one piece world... so and so... exists that directly counters the jutsu."
Next video idea:
All devil fruit vs all shikai/bankai
Kyoraku Shunsui's bankai will be problem
@@Problemsolver434not much of one
Probably not. Don’t feel to do anymore big videos like this for a while
Devil Fruits slam jutsu into the next dimension, robin's fruit + sugars fruit + maybe the door door fruit is op.
They can travel in their own dimension not in other dimension so Limbo is enough they can't travel to other planet sorry to say that they pirates not Aliens who travel from world to world and devour planets.
There is a reason oda chose to give only 1 power to an individual or it would become ridiculously overpowered just like you're seeing in this video
Hence why blackbeard is one of the final villains.
Hold on
Just realised something
It’s a stomp on the Devil Fruits’ side
Purely because of Logia’s, sure, you could say “what about their elements weaknesses?” Ok, fair point, but what about the Pika Pika no Mi? Something that physically can’t have a elemental weakness
So yeah, devil fruits stomp
Unless you use Kamui
Doesn’t Naruto universe have shadow ninjutsu and idk why people saying there’s no elemental weakness to light when darkness exsist im pretty sure darkness or the shadow likenblakcbeard devil fruit would counter kizaru without haki. And won’t Blackbeard fruit be passively activated and therefore attack would work on him
@@owenwang6528 The light fruit has no elemental counter, if an elemental counter is not explicitly stated, it does not exist. As for Blackbeard's fruit, it's interesting. Attacks don't pass through him, rather, he has to absorb them into himself instead. However, this isn't passive, and so if an attack hits him or if he doesn't absorb it properly, it will do even more damage than it normally would due to the gravitational characteristics of "dark"
@@saltinecracker9695 understandable just thought it was obvious that it’s shadow but ur right if it’s not stated then it’s tech not a weakness
@@owenwang6528the reason why you can't just assume devil fruits have an elemental weakness is because many things that would make sense as elemental counters just aren't. for example, wood is an insulator, and therefore would make sense as a elemental counter to the Goro Goro no Mi, since it would stop the flow of electricity. however, Enel's intangibility worked perfectly fine against wooden spears, and he was able to destroy massive wooden trees with no problem
19:25 C0 is not even good to begin with because it literally kills you first because you are at the center of the explosion because you are the explosion
And that true art is…
AN EXPLOSION!
Df user: uses organ failure diseases
Jutsu user: oh shit
Jutsu user : Rewrite their memory Devil fruit : I lost
I don't remember that ability, but saying there is such a jutsu then all Devil Fruits also has the memory fruit that can remove memories. same argument, but worse. Jutsu user wouldn't remember how to control or use chakra let alone jutsus. @@garvpatwal5787
Devil fruit has a counter for every jutsu literally 💀
I can say the same for jutsu this guy is defending devil fruit why would he debunk himself even though almost most of his point are debunkable still Omnipotence is enough.
If Brooks power worked as explained, devil fruits side should gain immortality if killed once, because their body is already intangible and brooks power severe the limitations it had. Basically, haki and water would still affect the user, but they won't die and Marco's fruit will gradually reassemble their whole body.
I don't really know much about Naruto but Jutsus imply mastery of the technique as oppose to devil fruits which means they just have abilities, so they would not know best on how to use those abilities, the DF users get there passives like auto turning into a element but they still would not understand everything they can do.
So in a way, DF are just more useful if not completely broken against most Justus. While I love the Justus in Naruto; DF in One Piece are just much, much better in terms of power and viability.
i mean you can combine flying raijin eight gate 100 healing kamui GENJUTUSU itachi and kakashi susano rinnigan abilities sealing Jutsu particle release saskue and madara rinnigans abilities can absorb attacks beside physical ones truth seeking orbs and more than 1000 clones with this hack
This gonna be even harder for the character will all jutsus, cause new more powerful op devil fruits have been named
the third tsuchikage can increase the weight of anything with the super weighted boulder jutsu
The differents between jitsus and devil fruits is that the devil fruit statement are absolute
Difference between Devil fruit and Jutsu is Devil fruit is possessed by Humans and Jutsu by God's.
@@garvpatwal5787 So every fodder ninja is a god...right.
Can we get a video of all Zanpakutos vs all Devil Fruits vs all Ninjutsu?
Naa bankai's here are too op beacouse stats are way different it might be good if it's equal stats
Finally been asking for this for so long
"all jutsu user vs all devil fruits user, first off the devil fruit user has the light light fruit...
the end."
And there is a mirror jutsu the end
@@lichyami8191 😂😂😆 oh no there is mirror in the way do I go around it or nuke the intire place
Man I'm glad I found this channel
He is freakingly baised for OP verse if you have watched Naruto you should know most of his point are wrong and Omnipotence is enough.
the devil fruit user just needs to hit them once, turn them into a toy, OR using doffys fruit to have complete control over their body, plus we could see a combination of devil fruit attacks, like kaidos blazing bagua but with akainus magma
Lmao the naruto character who knows all jutsu would literally be able to rewrite reality it's not a contest
@@Soso-us3dr only twice at best
@@lovelife-cv8mn no lmao hagaromo had and ability called creation of all Thing's which he didn't need to lose his eyesite to use Izanagi was basically just a cheap copy of that ability
@@Soso-us3dr were is this said in Naruto, because if he could then Naruto and Sasuke should be invinsible since they had his powers, and hagoromo technically shouldn't have died as he did in the anime, what you're saying is a speculation of how the creation of all things works.
@@lovelife-cv8mn it's not speculation it's literally stated lmao
I want you to think of this scenario:
A verse battle between One Piece and Tower of God.
The latter is a manhwa series that shares a lot of similarities with One Piece but in contrasts features a considerably darker and more complex plot. It also has a variety of powers that in my opinion would prove an interesting challenge for the One Piece world.
Tower of God would definitely win in that match
tower of god would win
Don’t worry, I read tower of god. It is one of my favorite manhwas. Plan to do some content on it soon
But I don’t know if I’ll do anymore big videos like this for a while
@@Steinixos you should check out God of highschool as well and this jutsu vs devil fruit was perfect send off for year 2022 👌😎💯💯
I hope your channel continue to grow
@@christopherlake9667 i used to read god of high school also. got into it the same time i started tower of god. i may start back
lol, funny how df's hard counter the jutsus
No you are watching it from one perspective no one is there to defend Jutsu as he was defending devil fruit.
@@garvpatwal5787ong, if we were to actually defend jutsus (which would be 10 hours long) it would be embarrassing for the one piece side
If u ever feel demotivated remember there is still many of us waiting for ur videos.
The barrier fruit should always be up for defense hope I see that
Can you make video about reiatsu crush/soul crush from bleach?
Can bleach character reiatsu crush character that has no reiatsu like character from other anime?
I see people saying aizen can beat goku by using reiatsu crush because goku has no reiatsu
Yh that would be fun to watch.
reiatsu crush is useless unless your strength is way higher, thats literally how it works in the bleach verse. dragon balls version of reiatsu crush is literally just destroying everything by powering up, which is based on your strength which means it can be planet level to universal etc. reiatsu crush is bs from bleach wankers. aizen can still win tho
Naw. I’m not in the business of addressing every single wank out there
Everyone forgets the door door fruit
Kamui slams
@@Soso-us3dr logia simply ignores your kamui
@@Роман-е7к7з you're not that smart are you?
Really like ur videos man
Also it’s just the durability of the shadow clones that varies. The clones have equal strength and speed to the original, so they would shift the battle greatly.
That was a blatant lie, it’s been said multiple times that a clone is only a portion of the original’s strength. This was said by one of y’all “planetary” characters-Kakashi, who y’all never seem to listen to when it matters
@@reesesxp6335 Naruto splits chakra between the clones evenly. Kakashi was literally talking about the difference between the clone jutsu Naruto was supposed to learn in class and the actual clones Naruto makes. Naruto has multiple times had clones disappear after a single hits to then maintain one that takes a beating that gives the impression that it was really him. So besides the clones literally having selective durability they are equal to the original. A jutsu from a clone will have the same strength as the original.
@@onesmart229 He literally said “Strength of the clone” not the jutsu made from a clone. Stop making up headcanons without actual fact. Even with clones having “sElecTive DuraBiLiTy” that still wouldn’t change the fact that they’re weaker and die much easier to attacks that the original can either dodge or just take.
See how head canon is faulty when put next to actual facts presented by the story itself?
@@reesesxp6335 you realize in beginning of Naruto we see 2 different clone jutsu early on. One is an illusion and one is actual clones. The clones have equal strength and speed to the original. You need to actually read the series.
@@onesmart229 That’s from what you’re watching and assuming dummy.😂😂 A clone can fight for a period of time but that would still make the clone weaker than the original (Making the original stronger) since shadow clones split chakra into each one (Meaning the original is left with less chakra than before the shadow clones were used)
I thoughts you would talk about Hawkins DF aswel but no worries this was awesome. 😂
that would be so strong if the jutsu user damages the fruit user they take the damage and the fruit user is unharmed because of logia and can even regrow the body part back with robinx fruit
i dont think there is a limitation on jitsu because all jitsus can be created. devil fruits however are quirky and and there are also limits to them because they rely on the stamina of the user. some users can do more with their fruit powers but that same user will eventaully get tired. its the reason why luffy sometimes use that to his advantage.. devil fruits options are limitless but so are jitsus, taijitsus as well
the limitation of jutsus is chakra. if a person runs out of chakra they automatically die since its connected to their life force.
@@davidrojas8210 yeah agreed but same can be said shit devil fruits with water.
@@bkztopkilla09 Df user don't die just because of water. Its not a death sentence. They only get weakend and may drown, yet the abilitys affect still exist.
The Df user literally still have to go through the process of dying by drowning.
and the stamina problem is easily fixed because of the paw paw fruit that simply allows the user to reject fatigue from their own body he said that in the video if you were listening. Zoan type devil fruits also increase the stamina and all other physical stats of a user so stamina will never be a problem.
@@edwardkanu8328 also to ad it 90% of the devil fruits does not effect the user in anyway shape or form depending on the devil fruit there isn’t definite on limit beside user comprehension
Weighted boulder Justus by Ohnoki increases and decreases weight
Most sane anime scaler
I thought it should be most baised scaler though he is not at fault because he is not debating with other and he is trying to let the Devil fruit win almost all of his point are debunkable.
@@garvpatwal5787 do you mind debunking any of his points?
@@garvpatwal5787faxs 💀
@@rowmein First instead of Debunking his points I am telling you those jutsu who are unparalleled.
Omnipotence change the reality it can change the person's own identity, Kawaki's Daikodan it's a time space where time didn't exist it mean if you are trapped you can't even think anything but how can he trap him answer is Amenominka Kaguya's jutsu using it he can summon Daikodan, Karma sealing Otsutsuki use this to revive them on another person body even if my character die he will be revived in DF user body, Charm using it every one will fall in love with the user, Daemon Shinjutsu even if you think of hurting him you will get hurt.
Also we don't know Jougan's ability but according to anime it grants you what it takes to defeat your enemy if your enemy weakness is light it will provide you if weakness is time it will provide you that.
@@garvpatwal5787Robin’s plus Sugar’s fruit would already be enough. The DF user could pop hands out of the jutsu user body, and as soon as the DF user touches the jutsu user than the jutsu user would turn into a toy puppet. Uta’s fruit literally transport the opponent into the dream world and the DF man can do whatever he wants in their because he would have complete control. Daemon’s ability is literally the same as Bartholemao’s barrier fruit. Boa’s fruit can turn people into stone if they fall in love. There is not much the jutsu user can do in order to beat the devil user. DF user also have Perona’s devil fruit. So if a hollow passes through the justu user, then he will fall to his knees and think negatively about himself.
Damn not only is One Piece Power System better than Naruto in every aspect, the writing, characters n art is better in every conceivable way as well
That’s Exactly what I’ve been saying ever since I’ve started watching one piece
@@thatguy2521 and Bleach got the better Power System than both of them as well, Naruto is really the bottom of the barrel for the Big 3
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This is not a comparison video, this is to see what can counter jutsu using Devil fruit. Btw Edo tensi is unbeatable.
Holy shit you didn't even mention the most broken devil fruit ever existed.
Luffy's Fruit??
@@tahsinnawarreti6662 Uta's
@@DeidaraSanji oh didn't watched the Movie
@@tahsinnawarreti6662nah luffy is broken
@@DeidaraSanjido u still think Uta fruit anywhere near luffy fruit
What about hidans immortality
you didnt mention hagaromos use of the all things jutsu. he can do whatever wants. including changing imagination into reality with no downsides. he can turn off or remove the devil fruits from the user the same way he can extract tailed beasts.
1. Hagamoro still only manipulated chakra. Everthing he does requires something else to still posess chakra and have a chakra network.
2. And why would it work on living creatures that already exist. He's never used it on anything actaully alive.
3. If he could use it freely.
What is he removing when Df aren't energy. Or something just sitting in or produced from the eaters body.
Df users are mutants, they're changed on the genetic level.
@@peltycrikts6990 creation of all things is not a jutsu. its a senjutsu. an ability that surpasses jutsu.its imagination given form. he can do anything he wants. accept it.
@@qtindavis433 And yet you've failed to explain where I was wrong. And only contradicts how you've understood, justsu. And that senjustu is still justsu.
As that's how the justsu Senjusu works. Still requires chakra to use on something that's chakra. And chakra that mixed with Nartual chakra energy of that earth. That's still technically a Naruto thing.
The use of Creation of all things by the Sage of Sixth Paths. Turned Chakra into living creatures aka Bijuu. Manipulating the chakra in the enviroment.
He's never been known to manipulate actual living creatures. Especially those without a Chakra network.
The same applies to Inzanagi. The user casted the Genjustu on themselves to alter their reality.
@@peltycrikts6990 I'm not reading all of that. if anything you wrote is saying he can't give imagination form and do anything he wants. then thats your mental handicap. you can argue with yourself. he created 9 lifeforms one which is stated to be able to destroy the world from a creation that was going to destroy the world, by separating its power. he can separate barely island level characters from their powers. make peace with it. but I'm done.
@@qtindavis433 Irrelevant.
You re-uploaded the video, this is much better, but like I said before, it might be different with shinjutsu
This video is not evenly matched up at all it’s clearly a defense case for devil fruit abilities being better than jutsu which is entirely up to your opinion
It’s not he went over several abilities the devil fruits are just more op.
You can take buggy and put him in Naruto and he would be at minimum Kage level just from having the chop chop fruit. The Naruto verse has heavy hitters but the VAST majority of it is very weak
I like how he just he just ignores Shibais Justus
I like how he is biased and trying to low ball Ninjutsu and just trying to cover up them in whatever way they can.
@@garvpatwal5787 shebai existed before jutsus where a thing and his techniques are not jutsu nor ninjutsu or dogutsu or senjutsu so that woukd go against the video
shebai existed before jutsus where a thing and his techniques are not jutsu nor ninjutsu or dogutsu or senjutsu so that would go against the video
Except that’s shinjutsu, non ninjutsu; dude they have completely different names and rules don’t mash em together
Okay. If teleportation counts as a win condition then Naruto wins easily. You are hugely overexaggerating One Piece's teleportation abilities.
The Door Door fruit hasn't been shown to be able to go literally anywhere. It's ability is to make a door of out anything. If you make the door on air you have the "space between air." There's no indication this fruit can even teleport much less DIMENSION HOP.
The Mirror Mirror fruit isn't every mirror in existence. It's explicitly the mirrors around whole-cake island. It has a range. And that range certainly isn't extradimensional.
Warp Warp fruit is unquantifiable. We have no idea what it can do besides teleport around an island.
Kakashi single Kamui without sage path powers can teleport the whole eight tails and gedomazo. Not to mention Kaguya dimension warping.
Kamui makes the jutsu user pretty much invincible. It's pretty much Katakuri Tier dodging except completely automatic.
Aging doesn't matter. Tons of naruto characters are immune to aging. Hidan. Kakazu. One piece can't age characters to death so even Orochimaru body steal. Sasori (Mature Mature fruit requires physical contact).
The only way the DF user can harm this is through their shadow. But funnily enough if they get close enough to their shadow to touch it they just get shadow possessed and then a clone finished them off. (Assuming he doesn't do the same thing with mind transfer jutsu before hand)
"overexaggerating" you're contradicting so hard on yourself
pls stop 😂
@@criswasbornin Are you actually gonna debunk him or just say nothing
@@PlanScare not wasting my time on debunking a fallacious argument.
i would appreciate if you debunk that long ass baseless paragraph, if you have time ofc.
@@criswasbornin Then your previous statement holds no weight since your not willing to explain why he’s wrong. It’s not that I necessarily agree with him but I’m not the one calling him out
@@PlanScare its literally easily to identify the contradiction rationally.
which is why i dont want to want to waste my time. its fallacious thats all you need to know.
Wait Reupload?
Ya. I added something
Umm have you forgotten about Onoki the Tsuchikage's jutsu? He carried turtle island (the place where jinchuriki train to control their bijuu) with it.
Yea he can manipulate gravity making things heavy and lighter this dude don’t know what he talking about 😂😂
@@leakingFaith so bootleg fujitora
@@dylankacam nah he not a bootleg fujtora he can literaly fly and obliterate things at atom size level he better if u ask me
@@leakingFaith Bro flying isn’t a big deal fujitora flys on a rock and can throw multiple meteors at people also most people could dodge onoki particle style
@@dylankacam Madara meteors are like a thousand times bigger and onoki stopped one all he gotta do is super weighting him then particle style and he dead
There's a clone clone devil fruit that was shown in a live action play that was stated to create clone of anything and anyone with all the skill and ability of the person and or objects. The only downside to this devil fruit is that the clone object or peaple are physically weaker then the original and need to be touch by the user of the clone clone fruit but that's about it.
Also the clone has to listen to the user of the clone clone fruit if its a clone of a living creature and can even use the same fighting style of the original person. That about all I know.
Pretty op, just imagine a army of kaidos running. Yah thay might be weaker then the original kaido but still op.
Do you think can these people solo one piece verse:
Shibai otsutsuki
Yhwach
Meliodas
Lucius zolgratis
Makima
Satoru gojo
Namek saga frieza
Shinra banshoman
*Yhwach and Frieza*
• Would win 100% (Frieza was already a planet/star buster by this time, Yhwach is basically hax embodied in physical form).
*Shinra*
• No idea, he's probably stronger than the Arthur that cut the planet in half, but at speed I'm in doubt. Since while you can argue that he is immeasurable for being able to go back / forward in time with just speed, it can also be argued that he is only FTL, since in real life, the speed of space-time = the speed of light, and that's why there is nothing capable of going faster than it, since if something were, it would probably distort reality and would allow the speedster to literally travel through time (basically Speed Force in DC).
*Makima and Lucius*
• Would lose but have a little chance to win. If we take into account that Makima would still have the power of the contract she made with the 1st minister, then the OP characters would have a lot of difficulty, since she would have more than 100 million lifes, and if you take into account that the japanese will not die automatically (since they can survive the accidents and diseases), then the number would almost double, the only way to defeat her that way would be a character with monstrous stamina or someone capable of slowing down her regeneration(of course, if she still had that ability, which she probably wouldn't), we also have other powers from her that could be used in the fight, such as the contract with the mold demon, also that other unknown ability, which she simply pointed at the darkness demon and he took damage, the contract with the angel demon and the katana demon and her passive ability to control anyone she thinks is inferior to her, but she would need to defeat the person at least 1 time (there are others, but those would be the only useful ones).
• As for Lucius, I really don't know what to say, I just know that he is able to create spheres, and manipulate time inside them, i would need more information to do an analysis.
*Gojo*
• 50 / 50, if he activated domain expansion in time he would leave anyone on the verse paralyzed, after that it is just a matter of using the purple lapse, which disintegrates basically everything, but before that he would probably be speedblitz(he already made a video of why mugen wouldn't work).
*Meliodas and Shibai*
• I literally have no idea, I don't read Boruto and I've never watched/read NNT.
Depends on if you mean all the verse in one person or all the characters verse them either way one piece verse winning that cause hobby hobby no mi is a son of a bitch isnt it
Yhwach and shinra probably. But I’d need to think about it
@@gelincarambolices7732 remember shinra have a God form in the fire Force/ soul reaper universe
@@christopherlake9667 And what are his powers in that form?
And I also love how my guy didn’t mention shin Justu I mean I guess he probably forgot it was a thing
More of an opinionated video, imo, but still a fun idea nonetheless. The Perfect Susanno isn’t losing to any single devil fruit in terms of visual size, tho - it’s literally relative to the curvature of the earth.
there's a devil fruit that literally takes your current size and multiplies it by 100. Then there's the dragon fruit, which takes your size and multiplies it further. Then there's the gum gum fruit which multiplies your size by several hundred. a giant giant, dragon dragon, gum gum man would likely be larger than the earth. We're dealing in exponential growth. And those aren't even 1% of the fruits that increase your size. Just imagine using every zoan at the same time. Just taking monster point from chopper, dragon transformation from kaido, and sun god form from luffy would be enough to eclipse susano'o dozens of times over. susasno'o is the god of the sea, but those three zoan fruits alone would be larger than the whole planet.
Nigga who’s susanno is that big?
@@Reallyjoyboyfr he's referencing the panel where madara first reveals his perfect susano'o. In that panel, the earth is drawn as a curve to make the susano'o look bigger. It's never again drawn anywhere near that size, so most people chalk it up to visual effect, but this guy clearly stands by it being that big.
The thousand sunny is bigger than the perfect susanoo
It’s like playing advanced level rock paper scissors
Orochimaru and Sasuke are implied to be immune to most poisons and venoms. When Sasuke is effected by the Menos venoms claws Sakura mentioned that to effect Sasuke it has to be a venom that’s completely foreign to them.
A devil fruit containing multiple variations of poison is foreign, especially one that only has an antidote if you get a sample of the poison itself, not just figuring out what different formulas were used to cure one like sakura. Sasuke also never fights against a poison that turns you into stone on top of poisoning you. Poison in naruto isn’t that strong, Even Hanzo’s poison is weaker than Magellan’s. Hanzo’s took days of agonizing pain while Magellans took 12 hours having the exact same effect and that was just his base poison, He has an even more powerful poison form
@@reesesxp6335 firstly I was just clearing the misinformation that Sasuke and Orochimaru aren’t immune/resistant to most poisons and venoms. Poison in Naruto is very strong. Orochimaru has been to the land of the snake sage so him knowing about a venom that can turn you to stone is possible considering Garaga is there.
@@onesmart229 "most poisons" is not the same as "the poison category as a whole". do you not understand the difference?
@@onesmart229 Yes use boruto’s Snake that you didn’t even know existed before Boruto😂😂 but OK. So then has sasuke (even after learning from orochimaru) been shown to counter a poison that “petrifies you from contact” or is that just more speculation considering he’s been shown to be weak weaker poisons soo…..
Not to mention Devil fruit would still beat Jutsu in this regard considering garaga uses spit which can easily be dodged and with Caesar, you’d actually need to come into contact with him to fight and he can be made of his petrification gas
@@Steinixos you said there was no implication or statements confirming Orochimaru or Sasuke had immunity/resistance to poisons and venoms which is incorrect. So I was just clearing up that point.
I love how you completely forgot about Kamui existing
Because it doesn’t really matter the df user is just as fast as the all jutsu person and can instantly teleport away before getting sucked into kamui
@@dinoplug2987 no dude, Obito's Kamui. Devil fruit user has absolutely no way of touching jutsu user, and all victory situations presented in ghe video are based on df user touching the Jutsu user
Like it's the most obvious flaw in logic, this video is kinda ass xd
I see you didn't watch the video
Imagine 5000 (naruto can use 5000 at once) shadow clones kamui every little piece of the logia into pits or Amaterasu all with flying raijin shooting particle dismantling jutsu. This video could go either way depending on who you’re arguing for with imagination.
And then they miss
Imagine trying to touch elements that doesn't have a proper body that can be touched unless you have Haki.
Imagine thinking that logia users can be hurt physically without spirit, conceptual damages or haki lol
you kinda made a mistake u said the brooks fruit would allow to stop edo tensei but it wouldnt work unless they die,but then u said if they die they could be revived if there was a body after so will he be using brooks fruit,ior not?
Let me jump to jutsu man's defense for a minute. What about sealing jutsu? Sure, they aren't powerful enough to hold the massively buffed fruity boy, and our juiced up man can teleport out, but what if many layers of sealing jutsu are applied at the same time? Space time seals can prevent teleportation, and Minato uses a seal that cuts off external connections in his fight with Obito, so there go potential outside help options. Then layering several sealing jutsu at once over the citrussy individual should hold him in place. He could use four clones to make that one purple box thing. That allowed the sound four to resist several anbu and two kage level fighters, and allowed the four hokage to block several bombs from the ten tails. So it can be argued that the seal is powerful enough to contain the walking fruit salad. I do see one out for our overripe gentleman, though. He could warp himself a few minutes into the future with the toki toki no mi, and catch the jutsu user off guard. I'm also sure there are other outs I haven't thought of, so I'll present plan B, also using sealing jutsu. The four tag sealing jutsu that the akatsuki use to protect themselves in the first arc of shippuden. The jutsu is unbreakable by any means except for removing the four tags, so the jutsu user can lock themselves in a box. They could place a space time seal on banana man, and then place themselves inside of the protected space. The tree grown combatant would feel quite sour at this development. He would follow his fruity instincts posthaste, and get to peeling. However, each time he peels a tag, a clone of himself spawns to fight him. It's now fruit vs fruit, and though the comparison may be apples to oranges, since all of team guy could defeat their doppelgangers, our foe must lay down the fruit punch four times in a row. That much blending is sure to make quick work of the enemy, and the jutsu user would leave his box to find a well prepared smoothy.
Now that I'm done presenting my two options for a sealing jutsu victory, I feel I should disclose my bias. I'm a much bigger fan of one piece than I am of naruto, though I've read through naruto in it's entirety several times, with the most recent being about two months ago. I find that naruto's highest highs can reach the same points that one piece can, but the lows are more frequent and go far lower imo. So that's my bias, thank you for reading.
Couldn't the fruit user make a door from the wall thing, it isn't breaking it? also couldn't fruit person the use ope ope no mi, spit in the air and swap the jutsu user inside the box with the spit? Very odd ways of doing things but still works. If it's fruit guy v fruit guy, than the original fruit guy can just leave into air door dimension sprout a bunch of hands making multiple airdrops, and just tap and turn the fruit guy clones into toys?
@@SamuelRondreigz4720 If fruit man can do something, alternate fruit man can as well. If he retreats to the door door dimension, his clone can follow. If he can turn his enemy into a toy, his opponent can do the same. It would be a very difficult fight no matter what, and he would have to do it four times. Also, if a space time seal is in effect, no teleportations should be able to work. The jutsu user could place a flying raijin seal inside his safe box, and when he's pulled out by fruit man, just return. Upon returning, he can place a space time seal on himself, or incorporate one into the walls.
@@ClashBluelight Fair point, I'm not arguing that sealing jutsu can't win, I'm just saying the Fruity Boy can do something wacky.
@@SamuelRondreigz4720 yeah, for sure. Honestly, both of my solutions require the jutsu user to perform dozens of hand signs before they become even remotely safe. Since stats are equalized, that means that the devil fruit user gets several dozen actions in that time as well. And since devil fruits only require one action for use, while jutsus require several, that puts the devil fruit user ahead in speed. Basically, my solution only really works if the devil fruit person makes several dumb moves in a row. My argument was just that once he was already in the situation, it would be pretty tough to get out.
counte:awakened gomu gomu streches your unbreakable box like a bow and arrow into mirror world portal. then uses the poison fruit magma fruit sand fruit gas fruit and all aoe fruits to floood the immediate area around the box so whever you want to escape you are burned poisned poisoin and other things and all i had to do was make you box urself.
and to counter the first one you cant hold him into place regardless of the amount of space limiting factors the fruity boy can just use his various body altering fruits to change his physical aspect plus how do you respect wind?
WITH ADA'S OMNIPOTENT JUTSU NO ONE CAN COUNTER THAT
Paw paw fruit hipity hopity let me swipe that bulshit away.
Only works on people with chakra xD
Except we’d need verse equalisation for that. It only works on chakra users
What does an all Fruit powered user do against someone with Kamui?
Edit: Wow I just heard what you did for the dojutsu use in the beginning of the video. U literally limited the use of dojutsu capabilities only down towards Kaguya’s even though you stated all Justus where gonna be used for the user, it’s even in the title of the video… So does that mean Kamui and other ocular Justus don’t count? If that’s the case then this is kinda unfair for the Naruto side.
Edit#2: Oh that was a contradicted statement u do use other ocular abilities
kamuis a very slow attack giving a fruit user the ability to escape
@@asuraofwrath Escape? How?
(Edit: Let me rephrase that. How is someone going to dodge an attack that spawns on them?)
@@swaggaloungexd1802 Probably Kizaru, since he moves at speed of light
@@yogiri8739 The Justu is ‘Visual based’. The Sharingan can Perceive Light, so not even light can escape this jutsu from tagging it, which it only needs to do once for a BFR ( Battlefield removal).
(Edit: Also If you were implying that Light can escape, Obito has shown that he absorb’s ppl in and out of Kamui instantaneously and even Minato agrees he has a better space-time ninjutsu.)
@@swaggaloungexd1802 kamui is slow af
you can't change my mind unless you can prove that kamui travels at ftl speed 🗿
12:33 but can Gaara put Crocodile in a gourd though?
Its like saying that trapping all power rangers in their super form would succeed
Don't know, Gaara can control sand and Crocodile is made of sand, so could Gaara remove Crocodile's sand aspect from his human part?
Would it work like with jinchuuriki?
What could Crocodile do to overcome Gaara's control?
Would Crocodile overpower chakra because he can manipulate pure sand without it?
@@Viv1992 Crocodile can control sand as well 😉
Or crocodile can suck the water off of Gaara
@@elijaharroyo4846 For that he had to touch Gaara.
You are actually incorrect early on in the vid, as you say there are no named jutsu that can increase or decrease the weight of an individual, when there literally is. The 3rd tsuchikage onoki (and the second tsuchikage Mu) have the lightweight bolder jutsu which allows them to become lighter to the point where they can fly, become significantly faster and ohnoki can even lift up and island with one hand. On top of that, onoki has the weighted bolder jutsu which make him significantly heavier and makes him way more physically powerfull.
Also you brought up Magellan’s corrrsive poison as a counter for the susanso, despite the mizukage mei’s one corrosive acid not being able to do anything to Madara lower levels of susano despite being submerged in a pol of her acid, and even though Sasuke’s was melted by mei boil reLease acid, that was the weakest form of Susano, and as I mentioned it did nothing the madara’s huger stages
And I mean no disrespect, but it seems like you went into the video not knowing enough about the catalogue of jutsu in Naruto, as you mention a group of jutsu for every category, and then just explain how or why the devil fruit’s version are Better or how there are more of them, when there is hundreds of different jutsu just in the application category that if you quickly mention, the sheer volume and number of jutsu would then outclass the devil fruits of that category, so listing the devil fruits and saying why they are better with out giving that many examples of justu just ends of downplaying the justu and dismissing any of the other ones that could be used against the devil fruits
Pretty sure he mentioned the justs'u that Onoki and Mu use and there are a lot more jutsu's than df but you gotta consider one piece hax and the abilities one df can have.
@@Mariama_Kane I mean I am considering the Hax that devil fruits have, even considering non-canon and movie devil fruits (which I would) there just isn’t enough devils fruits to account for the massive arsenal of justu’s and the numerous variations of each, yes devil fruits are insanely hax, but even if Every justu’s abilities were only 1/3 as broken as devil fruit abilities, the SHEER NUMBER of Jutsu would be enough to (nearly) compensate, but since there are NUMEROUS justu just as broken as even the MOST haxxed devil fruits, the devil fruits literally just don’t compare
@@hey_your_boi_mike_here5025 You clearly aren’t accounting for the hax the df have since most offensive jutsus wouldn’t work.
@@Mariama_Kane even if you said lightning style wouldn’t work because of of luffy’s fruit, (among others) you’re still clearly aren’t understanding the massive scope of Jutsu and their effects, as once again I could name probably hundreds of jutsus that could work with no counter.
And saying that most offensive justu wouldn’t work is and incredibly bold claim that just blatantly isn’t true
@@hey_your_boi_mike_here5025 I do understand the amount of jutsus but it’s clear a majority won’t work literally every single nature transformation won’t work and a lot of jutsuts are based around those nature release.
Hey man I have been thinking about your admirals vs hokage and I realized it is said if an element is stronger you can hit a Logia like alkainu vs ace
Hashirama will stomp he is atleast moon level and no one in OP every destroyed a Moon.
@@garvpatwal5787 same with hashirama he never destroyed a moon 😮
@@nicholascommey7718 Yes and who said that he is moon level he can fight someone who is that strong but not Moon level sort of because there is a way to prove him moon lvl
If we are only using Naruto i think it’s more debatable but if Boruto included I’d have to go Jutsu.
Boruto was not excluded from the video. Currently there just no jutsu that added anything of significance in the setting of this battle.
@@Steinixos I’d have to disagree i think aida and her brother’s abilities are super op along with shibai otsutsuki. If boruto isn’t included I’d give the edge to df user but still think you can make a case for both depending on how you look at it. But Boruto included jutsu got it. I mean Aida’s ability alone forces you to love her making it impossible to harm her. It’s like a step above Boa Hancock’s ability because hers doesn’t force you to be attracted to her.
@@nf5322 yo they haven't finished shinjutsu stuff as yet , so hold on the meantime. Until they gave us more information about these ostushiki techniques
@nf5322 So thats a body modification. it is not a jutsu as far as i'm aware (or at the very least it is not a shinjutsu unless momoshiki is mistaken)
But irregardless, it doesn't carte blanche prevent use of powers. Shikamaru was still able to use his shadow possession. thus our shadow shadow fruit user still has free reign to remove the users shadow.
and again, It obviously wouldn't be able to stop a touch(since it’s not harm being done), which as we already discuss is unavoidable in this instance
@@Steinixos well i heard they got their powers from shibai otsutsuki so it was originally a jutsu buy they where built to have the power. And you can’t harm her or do anything that would harm her. And daemon if you even think about harming him it will be reflected back onto you.
All ninjustu are based off of Shinjutsu which are just now being introduced
There are flaws in these arguments.
1) One HUGE flaw in your argument is that you didnt mention the creation of all things jutsu from hagaromo. That is literally the most powerful jutsu to date allow him to create and manipulate reality at will. Anything from his imagination comes to reality. Izunagi and izunami are literally rip offs of creation of all things. He wouldn't even need to use either because he has the original jutsu.
2) Magma fruit is not on par with amaterasu. Amaterasu would consume magma. It consumes anything it touches. The only legit counter is the darkness fruit.
3) you wouldnt be able to take control of any summons. Because with sharingan they can just be repossessed and mind controlled. I only bring this up because aside from the fodder summons. They will be able to summon the tailed beast. Which can also be forcefully controlled by the sharingan.
4) most of these status effects wouldnt work on the all jutsu user either. Because they can turn into water, you forgot konan which can also divide herself into paper. If you dont catch all of her she will come right back together. Or kakezan who can rearrange and has perfect control over all his molecules basically making any transformation or manipulation of his body by others useless. He can also phase through solid matter. Plus aging an immortal would do very little.
4)you wouldn't be able to counter edo tensei unless you were strong than the edo tensei user. And if we are giving them sage of six paths + senjutsu. Also with hagaromos Yin Yang release he is the king of the dead and living souls. He could snatch back any souls u tried to take and reanimate them at will. paw paw has never been shown to eject souls thats a reach.
5) the all df user could NOT see limbo clones. Sasuke could see them with the rinnegan because its literally a SAGE OF SIX PATH DO JUTSU. it was just a hard specific counter. So unless u had sage of six path energy u cant even sense them or touch them. But they can touch you. So that special eye df would have no bearing.
6) Sealing. Um we are talking ALL JUTSU HERE. One piece has no counter to the tatsuka blade. Its use restriction is being itachi. It cannot be stolen from itachi as it is a part of itachis own chakra awakened by his MS. So if he hits its a seal. Then there are sealing guords that can be used like the crimson gourd or the amber purifying gourd that can suck in a everything. Or the gate of the great technique by hashirama which immobilizes its opponents and seals all movement . as for time travel. He could use creation of all things to either create a jutsu to time travel or create an artifact to time travel like what happen when Boruto time travel.
7)he could create any jutsu he needs. And analyze all things. After analyzing the all df user the all jutsu user can copy and counter any ability used. Or restore himself from all negative effects.
8) also like you stated s06p can heal back eyes so he could use Izunagi and izunami on repeat. The only reason kakashi didn't get sharingan back is cause that wasn't his original eye to begin with. So we could infer that the heal brings back the original eye. which for this characters would be the sharingan that closed. Also Naruto wasnt as powerful as Hagaromo who had the creation of all things technique.
1)creation of all things is not reality manipulation if so where is it stated and shown to do so
3) summons are practically useless since they them selves do not have the abilities of there summoner most of them are at risk of being used against him with The nori nori no mi df that allows the user to control any thing they ride such as the Pacifista.
4) most in not all logias can do a lot better besides that water is not real water or paper its chakra that has been given the qualities of those elements while the all df user can make an unlimited amount of the element they need plus water can be frozen and paper can be burnt
4)the ope-ope no mi exists and since our all df user has unlimited stamina via the horm-horm df and is also immortal due to ope-ope no df meaning he can make a room as big as he wishes to personality swap the edotensie since he has been shown to be able to interact with souls or shadows he can simply take those away and send them to future to when the sun is bright or he can swap there shadows controlling them from then on.
5) the limbo clones have only been shown to be only been shown to be capable of physical attacks which are use less since the df user can leave to the his various dimensions that are inaccessible to them.
6) agreed seals are useless since most can be escaped by just teleporting or our df user can just do what Orochimaru did the gouards seems familiar to the darkness df and immobilizes u upon contact but then again we can not create new jutsu cuz as u heard any df can exist as well so no creating jutsus but a better option is Urashiki who can warp to the past by several seconds so do it a bunch and ur back.
7) he cant if he does not have the jutsus or dojutsus for example the hobby hobby no mi he cant use his abilities if he is a toys cuz he wont have them toys dont have chakra networks to begin with or the art art df he will lose his powers thats why they are win conditions.
8)head cannon you can not prove that because it was never drawn or stated by the mangaka (and isnt the original eye the eye had before even unlocking the tomoe or stealing a relatives eye Sasuke stole Itachi's eyes of there sharingan like if Toneri lost one of his tenseigan would he also gain it back or his from birth beyakugan) This is why I hate too much headcannon
Technically speaking, anything the jutsu user has CAN be countered by the DF user thanks to bonney’s twisted future ability; allowing the user to become any version of themselves regardless of how outlandish it seems as long as they believe it’s possible. So outright creating counters to other jutsu abilities is very much possible.
@@Mazdha haha I just remembered why I didn't respond to you🤣. Cuz I just tried again and TH-cam keeps deleting my post. I was too pissed to rewrite the whole thing.
haki is will power and spiritual power. chakra is phyiscal power and spiritual power. chakra users can hit them
Man this never get old 2+2 equal 4 no since 2 plus 2 is a number and 4 is then it would make any difference if it is 7.
can you do a all magic user vs all devil fruit user next time?
well use infinite tsukuyomi
And don't say it wouldn't work to a person with no chakra remember when kaguya activate the first infinite tsukuyomi human don't have chakra before haguromo share his chakra to everyone and you can't counter it even you have an strong will,chakra or you know the handseal because it's infinite the only thing to release the jutsu is to seal the caster
For the use of Infinite Tsukuyomi, you need the Shinju fruit. For the fruit, you need the tree itself. Luff cuts the tree with the door door fruit and shits om your verse
@@Роман-е7к7з Lmao you didn't watch Naruto did you. Once you are in the state of having both Byakugan and a Rinnesharingan you have already eaten the fruit. The Infinitie Tsukyomi would end the fight no questions asked.
All Creation Jutsu is the shit the Sage of six paths has. And so they can just instantly recreate themselves. Or you can just use infinite shadow clones across a planet to gather endless nature chakra and just spam truth seeker orbs and Amaterasu until the other person is dead. Or you can just hide in the Kamui dimension and use immortality gained from infinite regeneration and reincarnation to just **wait for the heat death of the universe** and the other person to be hit by a wandering black hole.
Or just use Dust Release and vaporize them.
Or the ketsugan and make the person explode.
Or instant mine destroy them with genjutsu (I’m equalizing verse’s powers, cope and seethe harder about me giving a shot about thr indended mechanics of the verse).
Or they could use reaper death seal via a shadow clone or just simply use the human path for an instant kill.
Or just wrap themselves in truth seeker orb armor. (Unless the shadow devil fruit lets you materialize in the shadow inside of someone’s clothes or body).
OR!!! **they can use water Justus to make sea water and just roll the devil fruit user.**
I’m really sorry, but devil fruits just don’t compare to a verse where god himself **used Justus** to create the world and give people powers and you give someone all Justus.
Looks like u didn't watch the video
@@athulalosious4768I did. Blud’s arguments were trash. 🥶
Repost? Either way im going to watch it again lol
I myself is a big one piece fan and I must point out that this guy is very biased and one sided, he always points out that the all devil fruit used has to do to the all jutsu user is touch them and turn them to a toy or suck out their energy etc and the all jutsu user has no way of touching or counteract the all devil fruit user because they have logia abilities which makes them intangible but he fail to mention that the all jutsu user has intangibility as well through kamui therefore the devil fruit user has no way of touching the jutsu user as well
There is quite a big difference. Logia is passively through no effort intangible. Jutsu user needs to activate a jutsu that drains chakra to be intangible. They would both be intangible for a while, but eventually the jutsu user would either need to rest or run out of chakra and die.
This ends in seconds with the hana han and toy toy fruit
I don’t wanna say too much, but I feel like you didn’t do proper research because you say that the limbo clones only do physical attack, but in the anime, they were literally using Sassano’s and you can’t just casually dismiss what is stated in the data book.
akaino's magma can not consume amaterasu it's called the enternal flames for a reason
Super light and super boulder justu like cmon man that’s a weight manipulation jutsu
By jutsu that could be literally every dojutsu, taijutsu, genjutsu, shinjutsu etc and that just solos
Not when you take into account the implications of every fruit power
why the reupload
He didn't talk about the limbo clones in the first video
The all devil fruit can heal himself of any and all injuries because there's a devil fruit that called the heal heal fruit from the dresrosa ark and is own by the dwarf princess.
Not to mention Marko phoenix phoenix fruit
100 healings and Hashirama plus SO6P paths plus Biju regeneration did the same.
I was going to ask for an All Stands User vs an All Jutsu User or all Devil Fruit user fight and then I realized that it's even more unfair against the Jutsu or Devil User. The Stand user has C-Moon/Echoes Act 3 plus Green Day, multiple forms of time manipulation, 3 ungodly defensive Stand abilities in the form of GER, D4C: LT, and WoU, also some insanely high fire power in the form of Tusk Act 4, Go Beyond, just being turned into a bomb, or punched to death by the powerhouse Stands. We have infinite speed with Made in Heaven, precognition with Epitaph, and several near insta-kill stands like the Hand and Cream. Also Heavy Weather and Metallica exists. Can't really fight when you are turned into snails and the iron in your blood turns to razor blades and needles.
The only other heavy hitter out of the Big Three that I can see sorta challenging the All Stand User would be the All Quincy Power user from Bleach. Mostly cause of how busted some of the Quincy powers are as well as the Almighty existing. Quincy power won't win, but I think it's full limit testing for the Almighty.
Very good video! The only thing would be that the moa moa no mi and the modo modo no mi are non canon and shouldn't count, but they wouldn't really impact meaningfully to the df user's power budget
The characters are canon just the movies aren’t
@@LaceKing7 I sorta agree but it's better to stick to purely original source material for consistency and avoiding weird grey areas. Also the Moa Moa is not from a movie, but from a special
@@Nedoiko yeah but if the character is canon the df is canon
@@Nedoiko the movie is canon bruh
Makes a clone and touches it to trigger deamons damage reflection ability. And the devil fruit guy is done
logia
@@edwardkanu8328 logias aren't always active. also we know one of the ninjutus's gives you omnipotence and the ability to rewrite reality in anyway. so the ninjutusu guy just has the devil fruit guy die
@@theonetrueedgelord3596 who says Ligias arent always active, we’ve literally seen logia users like the mud guy in sabody get attacked and he isn’t confirmed to have observation haki yet he was caught off guard and people can’t kill him cuz of his mud if they don’t have haki, and the ninjitsu argument is just dumb literally makes no sense nothing to back it up
I think your heavily underastimsting the summons in Naruto Gamabunta specifically has been shown on a couple of occasions to swap hands with the tailed beasts. They are bot just Giant Toads they are intelligent and use sage Jutsu which means they are easily 100s if not 1000s of times stronger than a regular Animal of their size. Futhermore there is nothing to suggest that Tama's devil Fruit could tame them. The summonings in Naruto are bound by blood and more intelligent than any creature we have seen in One Piece so far. There is nothing that suggests that Tama's devil Fruit could override that. Same thing with the Shadow possesion technique once your caught your unable to move so cutting the Shadow is impossible.
There is also nothing to suggest that the door door fruit could interact with the Limbo or Kamui as both Limbo and Kamui are compeltely different dimensions. The door door fruit has never been shown to be able to switch dimensions at will instead it is shown to have it's own pocket dimension similar to Kamui.
this man has a jamaican accent
The meat riding is crazy
Ready... FIGHT!
*Luffy Sees the Future...*
Naruto: KAMU- Wha- huh?!
Luffy: *_TURNS INTO LIGHT_* CIEN FLEUR! *Touches Naruto and Naruto becomes a Doll*
Round 2... Ready... FIGHT!
*Luffy Sees the future...*
Naruto: KAGEBUNSHIN NO JUTSU!
Naruto Clones: All preparing a different Jutsu
Luffy: Room. *Turns all affected clones around him to be used as a meat shield.*
Naruto: PARTICLE STYLE!
Luffy: *PERONA GHOST ARMY SPAM*
ROUND 3! FIGHT!
*Luffy's Observation Haki sees the future*
Naruto: AMATERASU!
Luffy: *Flicks a Booger*, Booger is now lit by Amaterasu. Amaterasu Booger detonates on Naruto's face.
its funny that you didnt mention the izanami anywhere. another thing when hagoromo died he had both his rinnegans and rinnesharingan even though his used the izanagi before yet you said theres no proof that you can get your special eye back, plus its been stated that hagoromo can spam the izanagi so thats been debunked as well. you said theres no jutsu that increases strength, yes there is, ohnokis earth style which allows you to increase or decrease something or someones weight we see this when ohniki increased the raikages weight and the raikage punched an broke through the susanoo even though its an ultimate defence. next thing its been stated that in order to use the creation of all things properly you must understand what your making, naruto definitely doesnt understand what a sharingan is he just knows what some of its abilities are, you literally proved this in the video as obito stated it in the manga, thats been debunked.
you also said that logias can see things from anywhere however forgot to mention they have to consciously activate that ability, its not passive, plus they have to focus and have their hands on their eyes, giving openings for attacks.
there is also the substitution justu that wasnt mentioned, the shadow paralyse that was not mentioned, itachis tsukyomi, shisuis kotoamatsukai, the beast transformation jutsu that wasnt mentioned which increases all your senses, garis explosion ability which allows him to explode people from inside their body, the six paths chains, yaguras water style mirror reflection which allows you to reflect any attack back at you, kisames water bubble justu, killer bees ink ability which blinds you, meis vapor justu, black panther justsu which immobilizes you, tsunades 100 healings mitonic regeneration which basically makes you immortal. hagoromos soul manipulation, magnet release which immobilizes you, theres so many more jutsus that are either broken or have crazy effects that i havent mention like daimarus earth ability which allows him to completely manipulate the landscape, or even kabutos jutsus which allow him to change the structure of any landscape as he was able to turn the ground into giant heavy spikes and can even make shields, even better orochimarus shedding skin technique which makes him immortal as when he dies he can constantly shed his skin and a new healthy body comes out.
last thing the truth seeking orbs does erase your soul or parts of your soul we see this from minato. minatos soul literally left the corpse he possessed and there were no arms there, theres no proof that a soul in naruto is ninjutsu so you sayin it just works on ninjutsu is wrong. you also said that when a soul in naruto is removed it goes to another location, which means it goes to the promised land where hagoromo and all the dead people reside, however logia users cant find that place as they dont know it exists or how to get there so they wont be able to get their souls back. this video is too biased
Chakra water is water made from chakra. One Piece character are vulnerable to actual water.
Sea water*
I agree that elements wouldn't work but this videos was mostly for op fans. Truth seeking orbs would nullify the soul, meaning it would be like haki to logia users but more versatile way. You haven't said anything about shadows clones or nothing. Limbo clones with ability would use shadow clones in that dimension and if the person goes inside that dimension, it would still work in the limbo clones favor since they got everything plus almost unlimited chakra. You haven't said any naruto jutsu that would work to give them a fighting chance fr. It was mostly "op character nullify everything naruto character throws at it" without mentioning the other jutsu that's in the verse
Good video tho
1st problem as im watching the video is that you said your going to use the jutsus that played a an impactful or were shown in the show or manga ( going off what i remember correct me if im wrong) but you start with chojis jutsu to start of with instaed of talking about something more useful like sage mode and then you compare chojis jutsu to devil fruits further down in one piece and call that fair the you brush over susano basically implying that the kaidos babbua and the other susano like creature can hurt them
you didnt use any calcs t imlpy that these were bigger than the susano you basically kinda said they were bigger than it without saying it was bigger than it also vaporisation nor corrotion would work on susano because the susano is made of chackra you cant vaporise or corrode chakra
and you said there wasnt any jutsu like the lilo kilo fruit you are completely wrong if you went back and watched the war arc you would know that onoki has the weighted boulder jutsu which can make light or heavy dont know how you could forget that and then you talk about baryon mode and 8 gates ( the wort things to use in this kind of fight ) and at the start you said your using someone like kaguya already the fight is over because of ininite tsukinome which doesnt require chackra if you knew how to powerscale you should atleats know this the only chance the one pice character stands is if the fight is deliberatly set at daytime just because of tis one jutsu which would be biased or if there was a devil fruit to repel illusions whhich i cant think of
This kinda feels one sided by the fact the only one side feels actually being looked through
Amatsaratsu is as hot as the sun
You can literally dodge amaterasu
No
And what about akainu which can melt thing just melt or vaporise anything that comes near depending on his mood
Almost all of your argument are Debunkable but I can't make video in comment section your argument would be debunked if you are debating with someone else.
How Hagoromo created tailed beast was using Izanagi without losing his eye still if you say you are wrong, no problem i give you all ponits I am assuming you win all the points.
Jutsu user places Karma on Devil fruit user jutsu user dies and revive in Devil fruit users body.
Daemon Shinjutsu can reflect every action then Eida's Shinjutsu enters the match erases opponents memories and opponents memories will tell him you are a fish he enters in the water and die.
Shinjutsu. We just gonna ignore that?
Reaper death seal...
it only takes three evil fruits
hana hana no mi
hobby hobby no mi
any logia (preferably glint glint no mi for speed)