Their prime to me was 1973 -1976 that was the hungry raw Kiss full of energy after 1976 they became fat bloated rock stars .!977-1979 their popularity started fading after 78 . For me the first three albums were the best .Destroyer was a overproduced mess Rocking roll over was better and Love Gun was meh once Dynasty came out besides the Ace songs on that album i was done with them.
@invisibleman1028, I'm old school as well. I'm not quite sure why Kiss did this. I believe that an avatar is not really the same as a holographic image. I believe an avatar is more along the lines of being like a video game image projected onto a massive screen. Yet I'm neither familiar with holographic images, but feel those would be more 3-D in appearance. I heard that Kiss spent 2.1 million to Black Rock to make this. I don't think they'll get as much out of it as they paid to have it designed.
Paul is definitely out running interference on this crap idea. He’s stating now that he knows they didn’t look great, but in the avatars preview short, he seemed to like them just fine.
story in 2012 i won sirius xm contest for a kiss town hall when they released monster. there was about 20 of us in this little studio. off to the right was the control room. during first break a girl who worked for sirius xm came out of control room and gave all members of kiss water . she was wearing an iron maiden shirt as shes leaving to go back into control room gene tries to grab her arm but she had already passed gene and was going out the door. gene turns to one of the sirius xm bosses he was talking to and says in typical gene voice "why is she wearing an iron maiden shirt this is a kiss event" the guy from sirius says i dont know but shes a big kiss fan. gene then says " well make sure she stays in control room for the rest of the town hall"
@@EverettVernon72but then Ace and Peter had to agree to Also put dots on their faces and go into a Motion Capturing Studio. And I don't see them agreeing to that.
I know there's a lot of controversy surrounding this, but I can't wait! I love the idea that there are now no limitations as to where they can take the show, and they can really buy into the superhero nature of the characters. I'm definitely going to see a show!
I'm very old school. What the hell is an avatar? Is it like holograms at Disney World? Never saw the movie Avatar, didn't plan to,doesn't interest me in the least. Doesn't the band have enough money?Well don't Gene and Paul have enough? They were great in the 70's. Give it up already. Enjoy yourselves with what you have.
I'll go see The KISS avatar show if tickets are under $50 but, if tickets are over $50 I'll wait as long as it takes for the DVD to come out. Metallica came to town & the nosebleed seats were $350. I passed that show up without a twinge of regret.
I wish Gene and Paul would just put 4 young guys with fresh makeup, costumes and MUSIC ideas. It's the only way to keep it going. I might go see virtual Kiss if I get free tickets, but I'm not paying for it. Your egos have done enough damage to this band.
Two things, KISS needed to release at least two more albums since 2012 and this avatar thing is ridiculous. It's always been about the music, that's it.
Why not have Ace and Peter come back release an album and the tour for the album could be the Avatar show. Make it special for fans that have had your back for 50 plus years. It would make up for the disappoint of the last show . I'm not a hater kiss is my favorite band . I just would like a happy ending and a really cool new start to something new.
here is paul stanley playing with AI in an attempt to redefine kiss and change the history of the band. he wants to purge the memory of add and peter. this guy appears more and more a douchbag the longer he just refuses to appreciate his accomplishments and just retire. i hope the avatars fail specularly unless they create a CGI ace and peter.
@@jesuscampos8136 They should remake phantom of the park using the avatars. The Avatars and New Movie Technology would make a big difference. They could make themselves do anything now. Bring the marvel comic to life.
Let's be honest the 23/12/02 PPV and Avatar roll-out was absolute crap. Pophouse is spending obscene amounts of money on a still developing technology. It's money based-on potential future revenue from this technology and the KISS brand. Simmons himself has echoed a living, breathing KISS 2.0 should be a possibility going forward. Time will tell.
@@KISS2vocalist That's true, yet with a KISS 2.0 band, KISS could be making some serious money right now. Versus- projected revenue from complex technology that still cannot be toured as a road show.
No, they already did it was a disaster Peter hadn't played drums for many years , he didn't know hold a stick anymore Ace didn't remember those solos anymore, happy to back in the band because they had no more money especially Peter. Thanks Tommy for your help 👍🏻🇫🇷
You won't live forever Gene and Paul except in your heads. Eventually as with everything people will stop coming to see it and as soon as it's not profitable the plug will be pulled. I gringe at the thought of a Taylor Swift avatar show replacing them
Can't wait for an overpriced Avatar concert, singing the same 18 songs that have been done for 50 years. Will the Paul avatar speak the same banter between songs " let me tell ya people, when you're down in the dumps then there's only one drink that's gonna do it for ya! You know what I'm talking about!" Or "We're gonna get this place so hot, we're gonna have to call out the firehouse!"
No one is working WITH them anymore because they no longer own KISS. PopHouse is going to do what they want, with or without PS's approval. If they have an ounce of sense, they will generate something from the popular era of the band, like they did Abba. If they spend millions to replicate aging rock stars in wigs with two replacement players, they deserve the failure they will get. Respect the source material. My feeling (and hope) is Eric and Tommy only got these cheap avatars shown just to be included before that era ended.
@@KISS2vocalist They may "welcome" it, but they don't take direction from him. They own it. Paul and Gene are just paid endorsements. And to be paid, they will endorse it, whether they like it or not.
@@KISS2vocalist I've said in black and white terms that Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons do not own KISS anymore. Play semantics all day, but you've been conditioned by Stanley and Simmons to believe only they control the direction of KISS. Thats gone.
They can finally make the Elder
If it isn’t the original lineup I’m not interested
Better be them in their prime 1976-79!
That is what most fans want. Why bother unless they use classic Kiss.
Their prime to me was 1973 -1976 that was the hungry raw Kiss full of energy after 1976 they became fat bloated rock stars .!977-1979 their popularity started fading after 78 . For me the first three albums were the best .Destroyer was a overproduced mess Rocking roll over was better and Love Gun was meh once Dynasty came out besides the Ace songs on that album i was done with them.
This sounds like he's reacting to the bad response to the entire concept.
@invisibleman1028,
I'm old school as well. I'm not quite sure why Kiss did this. I believe that an avatar is not really the same as a holographic image. I believe an avatar is more along the lines of being like a video game image projected onto a massive screen. Yet I'm neither familiar with holographic images, but feel those would be more 3-D in appearance. I heard that Kiss spent 2.1 million to Black Rock to make this. I don't think they'll get as much out of it as they paid to have it designed.
Paul is definitely out running interference on this crap idea.
He’s stating now that he knows they didn’t look great, but in the avatars preview short, he seemed to like them just fine.
@@dwightrenfield2241 For the most part , KISS has never been able to sustain any spin-off concept for too long.
Glad the interviewer was wearing a Kiss shirt. If it had been an Iron Maiden shirt Paul would insist she take it off 😂
story in 2012 i won sirius xm contest for a kiss town hall when they released monster. there was about 20 of us in this little studio. off to the right was the control room. during first break a girl who worked for sirius xm came out of control room and gave all members of kiss water . she was wearing an iron maiden shirt as shes leaving to go back into control room gene tries to grab her arm but she had already passed gene and was going out the door. gene turns to one of the sirius xm bosses he was talking to and says in typical gene voice "why is she wearing an iron maiden shirt this is a kiss event" the guy from sirius says i dont know but shes a big kiss fan. gene then says " well make sure she stays in control room for the rest of the town hall"
She can still take this shirt off!!! 🤪🤪
I'd rather have new music than a cartoon show. He's still trying to fight the bad feedback that those avatars got at the end of the last show.
Thank you for your hard Work and all the best for you
Remember what it was gonna be Star Wars meets a hard days night…
Rip rip
Rip and destroy
Ffs sake use ace and Peter that’s what the public want!!!
I think you’ll find nobody wants the avatars in the first place🤣
@@EverettVernon72Exactly!
@@EverettVernon72 There is people that do, People like me and many others.
Everyone has their own opinions about what they want. 👍
@@EverettVernon72but then Ace and Peter had to agree to Also put dots on their faces and go into a Motion Capturing Studio. And I don't see them agreeing to that.
Paul selling the sizzle not the steak.
Sentire Vedere il Grande Paul è da Brividi... Emozioni Intense.... Unico e Fantastico.... 💪💪💪🤟
It Is Over However they were the Greatest band In the world at one point in Kisstory !
I can’t wait to see this. Anything that keeps KISS in my life and doing new things makes me happy 🤟
Glazer😂
The music! What about the music??
No easy money, so no music
Makeup Kiss doesn't care about the music, it's all about spectacle
When will they Release the last show on Home Media?
The same time they send the Dubai packages
Cause it was boring
@@Totuudenilmaisija i asked when, Not "why Not".
@@L.T.VideoAndAudio i thought youwrote wrong and would be more
Should've had the last 2 shows in Brazil somewhere. They would have had a sold-out stadium full of rabid fans. Not the dead crowd at MSG.
Paul's avatar is the worst of all four
Crazy night from 1987
IS the best
Paul era .es y será el Dios de Kiss digáis lo q digáis. Y yo querría una camiseta de Gene Paul Eric y Tommy y Bruce.❤❤❤❤❤
I hope that Pophouse will go for a vintage 76-77 KISS with avatars being a copy of the original band back then. ABBA avatars are pretty much this.
I know there's a lot of controversy surrounding this, but I can't wait! I love the idea that there are now no limitations as to where they can take the show, and they can really buy into the superhero nature of the characters. I'm definitely going to see a show!
As I understand this it isn't a mobile show, more an attraction
I, unfortunately, never got to see KISS live, so I don’t think I can give an opinion on their avatars.
I'm very old school. What the hell is an avatar? Is it like holograms at Disney World? Never saw the movie Avatar, didn't plan to,doesn't interest me in the least. Doesn't the band have enough money?Well don't Gene and Paul have enough? They were great in the 70's. Give it up already. Enjoy yourselves with what you have.
It is bullshit
@@Totuudenilmaisija it wasn't the question what you think about it
I'll go see The KISS avatar show if tickets are under $50 but, if tickets are over $50 I'll wait as long as it takes for the DVD to come out.
Metallica came to town & the nosebleed seats were $350. I passed that show up without a twinge of regret.
Sounds terrible. They completely blew that last show. And will it look like Tommy and Eric or Ace and Peter?
From what they showed Tommy and eric
Rather prefer they just make studio records and of course not bother to tour to promote it
I wish Gene and Paul would just put 4 young guys with fresh makeup, costumes and MUSIC ideas. It's the only way to keep it going. I might go see virtual Kiss if I get free tickets, but I'm not paying for it. Your egos have done enough damage to this band.
We expected an official KISS tribute band. 🙁
They have lost touch with the fans. Someone ask Paul if he’s go to an avatar show of his favourite artists. Bet he wouldnt
Two things, KISS needed to release at least two more albums since 2012 and this avatar thing is ridiculous. It's always been about the music, that's it.
On my second place IS rockn roll all nite
Can’t wait
Eric thomny Gene and Paul ❤❤❤❤
Who's Eric thomny? I hope you don't mean Thommy... lol.
Why not have Ace and Peter come back release an album and the tour for the album could be the Avatar show. Make it special for fans that have had your back for 50 plus years. It would make up for the disappoint of the last show . I'm not a hater kiss is my favorite band . I just would like a happy ending and a really cool new start to something new.
You’re kidding right? Have you seen some of Ace’s recent performances? He’s a stumbling buffoon with no regard for the audience who paid to see him.
Avatars need to look like OG kiss….i mean if there’s any interest at all that’s all it’s gonna be
After your 3rd or so farewell tour just call it a day!Dont ya have enough money ffs
The last Concert were very Bad, always the same like hundreds concert before, verry pour👎👎👎
It is age 😔
here is paul stanley playing with AI in an attempt to redefine kiss and change the history of the band. he wants to purge the memory of add and peter. this guy appears more and more a douchbag the longer he just refuses to appreciate his accomplishments and just retire. i hope the avatars fail specularly unless they create a CGI ace and peter.
Im from the old school when you retire you quit working and stay home and wait for those Government checks
It may be better then Kiss meets the Phantom of the Park 🤦♂️. Lol
Basically they want to be the new avengers. Remember the fantastic four ...me either 😅
@@KISS2vocalist they're still gonna get there butt's whooped😂 they should remake phantom of the 🏞️ park
@@jesuscampos8136
They should remake phantom of the park using the avatars.
The Avatars and New Movie Technology would make a big difference. They could make themselves do anything now.
Bring the marvel comic to life.
Its going to be a half assed money grab done for minimum cost maximum profit .
We have NO idea what it will look like in 2027.we could be amazed.
@@reneboulet7458 kisstardism runs deep in your veins
Don’t go
Let's be honest the 23/12/02 PPV and Avatar roll-out was absolute crap. Pophouse is spending obscene amounts of money on a still developing technology. It's money based-on potential future revenue from this technology and the KISS brand. Simmons himself has echoed a living, breathing KISS 2.0 should be a possibility going forward. Time will tell.
@@KISS2vocalist That's true, yet with a KISS 2.0 band, KISS could be making some serious money right now. Versus- projected revenue from complex technology that still cannot be toured as a road show.
🤘😎🔥
Nobody need Ace and Peter
Where three people through their head down
Looks like rhe Mr Speed lead singer 😂
They haven't quite got the Avitars "gay" enough yet!!!
Pophouse The Fox and Ankh warrior Lucas ?
They "quit". Right, lol
That Not the Same 😢
the looks are terrible, and i bet for a few grand they could have had a few computer nerds model them better.
Just a money grab for Gene and Paul. No respect for the fans at all or they would use Peter and Ace instead of the 2 imposters. Just go away already
No, they already did it was a disaster Peter hadn't played drums for many years , he didn't know hold a stick anymore Ace didn't remember those solos anymore, happy to back in the band because they had no more money especially Peter. Thanks Tommy for your help 👍🏻🇫🇷
I think whoever's going to finance this is going to lose a lot of money
Ace and Peter better get avatars ...or it's gonna be lame.
Avatar’s are just cartoons. Let it go and let us just play old records.
Well I think I'm going to pass on this
You won't live forever Gene and Paul except in your heads. Eventually as with everything people will stop coming to see it and as soon as it's not profitable the plug will be pulled. I gringe at the thought of a Taylor Swift avatar show replacing them
Avatars can do things they couldn’t do…. Like sing 😂
Looking forward to seeing it, hopefully it won't be a disipointment, especially with how much it's going to cost.??
Please. Make it stop.
Can't wait for an overpriced Avatar concert, singing the same 18 songs that have been done for 50 years. Will the Paul avatar speak the same banter between songs " let me tell ya people, when you're down in the dumps then there's only one drink that's gonna do it for ya! You know what I'm talking about!" Or "We're gonna get this place so hot, we're gonna have to call out the firehouse!"
Rock Brigade
Don't do the avatars- just don't...
No one is working WITH them anymore because they no longer own KISS. PopHouse is going to do what they want, with or without PS's approval. If they have an ounce of sense, they will generate something from the popular era of the band, like they did Abba. If they spend millions to replicate aging rock stars in wigs with two replacement players, they deserve the failure they will get. Respect the source material. My feeling (and hope) is Eric and Tommy only got these cheap avatars shown just to be included before that era ended.
@@KISS2vocalist They may "welcome" it, but they don't take direction from him. They own it. Paul and Gene are just paid endorsements. And to be paid, they will endorse it, whether they like it or not.
@@KISS2vocalist I've said in black and white terms that Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons do not own KISS anymore. Play semantics all day, but you've been conditioned by Stanley and Simmons to believe only they control the direction of KISS. Thats gone.
Stupidest idea they've come up with. Kiss must be convinced their audience is 12
They Didn't come up with the idea, although, Gene would take credit for inventing it.
Paul, Abba we never a money whoring group like kiss. Its going to be a colossal failure.