It is not considered an upgrade or downgrade, because Arcsaber 11 Pro is even balanced racquet and NF800 Pro is a headlight racquet. So, it will help you to improve your swing speed and attack.
Sorry my misspoke, should be head heavier which mean that I expect the racquet head not too light. We did check the balance point for most of the racquets. Some Nanoflare model might be around 280-290mm, but some came with 300+-mm balance point. So I categorise it as head heavier Nanoflare series.
@@vsmashsportsi see. So are you saying nanoflare 800 pro is on the head heavier side or not? My understanding from 6:41 is that it is not head heavy. Would be good for you guys to share the bcp of these rackets in the review too. So viewers can have an idea.
im interested now. i currently use the 99 pro and been looking out for a nanoflare racket for some time as im in need of something less tiring. i tried the 1000z and it was over the top repulsive to my liking, the nanoflare 800 was nice but i wish it had a bit more power. so this 800 pro might be the perfect racket balance of repulsion and control in the nanoflare series. i will have try one of my friend.
Saya nampak Boss Alex macam struggle jugak nak handle NF800 Pro... Ada banyak kali juga tak kena tepat dekat sweet spot... Mungkin sebab raket tuh bukan aero frame macam NF1000Z... Thanks boss for the review 👍🏻
@@vsmashsports no wonder dia struggle sikit... Semoga boss Alex kekal sihat selalu... Btw, saya baru angkat NF1000Z di Vsmash IOI City Mall masa 11.11 haritu... Terbaiklah service Vsmash staff especially Danny... Thumbs up 👍🏻
Greatest reviewer by far! Thank you for your thoroughness in every major shots with drilling repetitions! Your great skill and unbiased comments are making your reviews most trustworthy. Please keep up the good work with this format of reviews.
@@vsmashsports Among numerous negative reviews from other so called reviewers, I almost made up my mind to pass up on getting this racquet. But I have had a very clear understanding about what this racquet can do for me after watching your review. I went on buying 2 4U racquets. And I love it as much as I love my Nanoflare 1000Z 4U, without any difficulty playing. Thanks again!
my main raket is Nnf 800 old, i m frontcourt player. looking for counter attack, dropshot, lob, cut off, not too fast. which one d you prever i must upgrade? 77 pro or 800 pro. @@vsmashsports
I am Arc 7 pro user and I can agree that NF 800 pro provides more power than Arc 7 pro. I love Arc 7 pro as it is very easy to play with and didn’t give me shoulder pain. NF 800 pro however changed my game towards more aggressive play. Smash and lob is more powerful. No shoulder pain with this racket. I strung my NF 800 pro with Exbolt 65 at 24lbs pre stretch 20%, my other rackets are strung at 26lbs with Exbolt 63. I had 1000z strung at 25lbs, but I didnt like it as it gives me shoulder pain, maybe due to extra stiff shaft I guess. Im keeping NF 800 pro in my bag together with Ax 77 pro and Arc 7 pro. NF 800 pro would be my main racket now as it’s the median of my other 2 rackets.
@redzuanhassan6983 Couldn't be more agree with you. I've been using NF800prp for 3 months, and the driving shot was so good. Due to clashing racket with partner I just converted to AX88S pro. Everything is better for me. You should try it.
So is swapping from nf800 to nf800pro is better? Is the head heavier compare to nf800? Nf800 is quicker in respon or the pro? Anyone tried them both? I love nf800 drive and defensive shot but attacking play is abit powerless cuz of head light. Wanna know if 800pro is head heavier? 4u
You should try on the pro version first, the feeling between both not really close like what we expect. Pro is like more quick/rapid react. For head balance point wise both were still same light head. Suggest you may add on the balance weight sticker on the nf800. It might close to what you want for little bit head heavier.
You should try on the pro version first, the feeling between both not really close like what we expect. Pro is like more quick/rapid react. For head balance point wise both were still same light head. Suggest you may add on the balance weight sticker on the nf800. It might close to what you want for little bit head heavier.
Thanks. I feel your this review is a little bit surprising to me. Most review prefer 3U while you prefer 4U. and you normally prefer 3U in other rackets like 11 pro, 1000z. You also said the shaft is much stiffer. I heard a lot that sharft of 800 pro is actually softer than 800, and 1000z. Interesting though. Thanks
Hi. Thank you for following vsmash channel. Yes this time, i felt this new Nanoflare is much more stiffer compared to the rest of the 3U racquets. I just recovered from sickness. It may be one of the factors that affected my play feeling. :D
so in conclusion. the 1000z is still the better racket. better in attack also. this NF800pro is just another add on in de nanoflare line up. but not an improved version of the 1000z
@@vsmashsports Yeah you said in the review that the NF800pro feels stiffer than the 1000z. For me I think the 1000Z is very easy to play with. Very balanced. With the stiffness and power. Good for frontcourt and rear court. This NF800pro sounds like it's more suited for frontcourt. Improved over the old NF800. But overal not better still than the 1000Z. Ps I still like my TK Ryuga1 more =p gonna switch to the new Ryuga metallic soon.
@@markdextergalang the higher the tension, the lesser sweet spot, require more strenght, string break easily and the protection of the frame. importantly, choose the tension that suitable for ownself. =D
sy suka brmain mid to front court utk double, penglaman sy dri mula pakai voltrizf2👉🏻astrx99pro👉🏻arc11pro👉🏻nanflre1000z bagi sy nanoflare 1000z adlah raket yg serba boleh, ez to use, super speed smash drive, taping, even balance, cuma lack of durability, da 2x patah tnpa trsentuh apa2, tpi sy still beli sbb sy rasa sngt raket ni sngt ssuai utk sy, kmungkinan utk nanoflre 800 pro sy akan skip dlu utk try beli, but for sure akan beli 700 pro sbb biasanya 700 pro lbih ez too use and ada more speed brbanding nanoflre series yg lain
saya boleh sama2 setuju dengan input tuan di atas. 800 pro feelingnya lebih stiff, tapi ada powernya yang tersendiri. 1000z sememangnya raket untuk power dan speed
I've been using Astrox 88s (3u) Skill Gen2 but looking for something to replace as can't get it anymore. Would the NF800 Pro be a good option? I'm a mid-front court player in my 50s. Is NF800Pro have good repulsion and good for both attack and defence? Thank you for the review.
Sebelum ini sudah guna Nanoflare 1000Z 3UG6 and Drive, Jab, Defend, Smash Dan Control sangat sedap.. Cumanya nak try 800 Pro adakah hanya kurang dari sudut smashing sahaja, tapi untuk drive, defend,control dan jab 800 Pro lebih dominan? ... Minta pendapat.
tuan boleh ke Vsmash Badminton Academy di subang untuk cuba raket demo kami. pendapat saya..setia dengan 1000z kerana feeling wise overall saya lebih prefer 1000z untuk lebih control dan smashing.
may i know what is the balance point for the 3u ? i want to buy this racket today but i hear a lot that the balance point was 288mm and a bit frustrated bcs to headlight for the 3u version 🥲
may i know what is the balance point for the 3u ? i want to buy this racket today but i hear a lot that the balance point was 288mm and a bit frustrated bcs to headlight for the 3u version 🥲
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I am using ArcSaber 11pro3u. Would it be an upgrade if I replaced it with 800pro?
It is not considered an upgrade or downgrade, because Arcsaber 11 Pro is even balanced racquet and NF800 Pro is a headlight racquet. So, it will help you to improve your swing speed and attack.
i asked for this rackets review 23 hours ago. thank you.
hihi..there you go. thank you for your support sir!
Say nanoflare fan but rate the racket lower because like head heavy…? 😅 6:41
Sorry my misspoke, should be head heavier which mean that I expect the racquet head not too light. We did check the balance point for most of the racquets. Some Nanoflare model might be around 280-290mm, but some came with 300+-mm balance point. So I categorise it as head heavier Nanoflare series.
@@vsmashsportsi see. So are you saying nanoflare 800 pro is on the head heavier side or not? My understanding from 6:41 is that it is not head heavy. Would be good for you guys to share the bcp of these rackets in the review too. So viewers can have an idea.
im interested now. i currently use the 99 pro and been looking out for a nanoflare racket for some time as im in need of something less tiring. i tried the 1000z and it was over the top repulsive to my liking, the nanoflare 800 was nice but i wish it had a bit more power. so this 800 pro might be the perfect racket balance of repulsion and control in the nanoflare series. i will have try one of my friend.
Hi sir, try first from your friend's racquet. Purchase if NF800 pro is your liking :)
how does this feel compared to arcsaber 7 pro?
Arc 7 pro is more easy to use and less stiff.
@@vsmashsportsthanks, bang!
Should i switch from nf800 4u to its pro version or not?
No, Yonex are clearly taking the pi$$ out of us. 😅
If you’re in Malaysia you can come to try on the demo set first before you make decision.
May I ask which one do you think is more forgiving for casual players? The 88S Pro or 800 Pro?
would recommend both. however if u keen to get 800 Pro, get the 4u version :)
@@vsmashsports got it! Thank you very much ;)))
Saya nampak Boss Alex macam struggle jugak nak handle NF800 Pro...
Ada banyak kali juga tak kena tepat dekat sweet spot...
Mungkin sebab raket tuh bukan aero frame macam NF1000Z...
Thanks boss for the review 👍🏻
Thank you for your support sir. Yes series Kali ni agak lebih stiff Dan saya juga baru recover dari sickness. :)
@@vsmashsports no wonder dia struggle sikit...
Semoga boss Alex kekal sihat selalu...
Btw, saya baru angkat NF1000Z di Vsmash IOI City Mall masa 11.11 haritu...
Terbaiklah service Vsmash staff especially Danny...
Thumbs up 👍🏻
Greatest reviewer by far! Thank you for your thoroughness in every major shots with drilling repetitions! Your great skill and unbiased comments are making your reviews most trustworthy. Please keep up the good work with this format of reviews.
Wow, Thanks for your support! We appreciate your kind words and insights. :)
@@vsmashsports Among numerous negative reviews from other so called reviewers, I almost made up my mind to pass up on getting this racquet. But I have had a very clear understanding about what this racquet can do for me after watching your review. I went on buying 2 4U racquets. And I love it as much as I love my Nanoflare 1000Z 4U, without any difficulty playing. Thanks again!
@@TheHealthyTurtle Thank you for the support and we will keep up the good work! 😁
ho does this feel compared to astrox 77 pro. for lob, defend, softtouch n smash, more headlight?
Defend, japping, driving, fast/rapid react wise nf800 pro better. The rest I would go for ax77 pro.
my main raket is Nnf 800 old, i m frontcourt player. looking for counter attack, dropshot, lob, cut off, not too fast. which one d you prever i must upgrade? 77 pro or 800 pro. @@vsmashsports
for block n lob, it is 800 pro good enough@@vsmashsports
its ok for lobing? many people say 88 pro too stiff for normal player lobing @@vsmashsports
Great review. Thank you!
Thank you for your support sir!
coach mantap bos
Terima kasih boss!
Compare to 88 d pro which is better for drive and defend
Hi. 800 pro. for fast respond and maneuverability
Blh try raket ke sebelum beli??
Boleh tuan. Datang ke vsmash badminton academy di subang. Boleh try raket dan kasut sekali tuan
I'm Arcsaber7 pro user. Everything was good. Should I convert to NF800 pro?
if you need more power u may convert..but just to remind Nf800Pro is much more stiffer than Arc7 Pro ;)
I am Arc 7 pro user and I can agree that NF 800 pro provides more power than Arc 7 pro. I love Arc 7 pro as it is very easy to play with and didn’t give me shoulder pain.
NF 800 pro however changed my game towards more aggressive play. Smash and lob is more powerful. No shoulder pain with this racket. I strung my NF 800 pro with Exbolt 65 at 24lbs pre stretch 20%, my other rackets are strung at 26lbs with Exbolt 63. I had 1000z strung at 25lbs, but I didnt like it as it gives me shoulder pain, maybe due to extra stiff shaft I guess.
Im keeping NF 800 pro in my bag together with Ax 77 pro and Arc 7 pro. NF 800 pro would be my main racket now as it’s the median of my other 2 rackets.
@redzuanhassan6983 Couldn't be more agree with you. I've been using NF800prp for 3 months, and the driving shot was so good. Due to clashing racket with partner I just converted to AX88S pro. Everything is better for me. You should try it.
boleh tolong review nf800 game and tour jugak compare ngan pro? for intermediate skill player
kita sudah ada short brief untuk 800 series yang lain. thanks
So is swapping from nf800 to nf800pro is better? Is the head heavier compare to nf800? Nf800 is quicker in respon or the pro? Anyone tried them both?
I love nf800 drive and defensive shot but attacking play is abit powerless cuz of head light. Wanna know if 800pro is head heavier? 4u
You should try on the pro version first, the feeling between both not really close like what we expect. Pro is like more quick/rapid react. For head balance point wise both were still same light head. Suggest you may add on the balance weight sticker on the nf800. It might close to what you want for little bit head heavier.
You should try on the pro version first, the feeling between both not really close like what we expect. Pro is like more quick/rapid react. For head balance point wise both were still same light head. Suggest you may add on the balance weight sticker on the nf800. It might close to what you want for little bit head heavier.
is it true that the nanoflare 800 is easy to break?@@vsmashsports
Thanks. I feel your this review is a little bit surprising to me. Most review prefer 3U while you prefer 4U. and you normally prefer 3U in other rackets like 11 pro, 1000z. You also said the shaft is much stiffer. I heard a lot that sharft of 800 pro is actually softer than 800, and 1000z. Interesting though. Thanks
Hi. Thank you for following vsmash channel. Yes this time, i felt this new Nanoflare is much more stiffer compared to the rest of the 3U racquets. I just recovered from sickness. It may be one of the factors that affected my play feeling. :D
How about the difference of Arcsaber 7 play vs 800 pro ?
Arcsaber 7 play = high-flex shaft, NF800 Pro =stiff shaft
Want ask, nanoflare 800 pro is easy to base to base or nanoflare 700
For myself, both also can.
so in conclusion. the 1000z is still the better racket. better in attack also. this NF800pro is just another add on in de nanoflare line up. but not an improved version of the 1000z
personal feeling i would say yes. some upgrades..but not much differences. overall feeling for more stiff racquet is the 1000z
@@vsmashsports
Yeah you said in the review that the NF800pro feels stiffer than the 1000z. For me I think the 1000Z is very easy to play with. Very balanced. With the stiffness and power. Good for frontcourt and rear court. This NF800pro sounds like it's more suited for frontcourt. Improved over the old NF800. But overal not better still than the 1000Z. Ps I still like my TK Ryuga1 more =p gonna switch to the new Ryuga metallic soon.
Adakah kepala ringan banyak tenaga perlu pakai sebab nk smash laju
secara asasnya, ya. kerana raket yang lebih ringan sesuai untuk control play. raket yang berkepala berat mampu beri lebih power dalam pukulan.
Utk front court double player nanoflare 800pro or 88S pro better?
feeling wise..keduanya agak baik sama sekali. cumanya 800pro lebih pantas untuk rapid attack
Can I use it as a front and backcourt player that can flex around
Yes can.
800, 800lt, 800pro, which one best for back court smash?
800 pro :D
Buat comparison NF800 & NF800 Pro
Nanoflare 800 pro shaft stiffer. For japping, driving wise nf800 pro upgraded a lot.
is nanoflare 1000z or nanoflare 800 pro better?
Personal choice Nanoflare 1000Z
Ada jual kt shopee ke
ada bos. boleh ke shopee.com.my/vsmash.os
Sama arcaber 11 pro power mana
Personal choice Nanoflare 800 pro
I have been using 100zz 4u and ryuga 2 4u too thinking to get this.. which one i should go for 3u/4u?? Thank youuu
Hi, 4U better since you been using 4U too.
@@vsmashsports i see my consideration is because of head light maybe 3u will be not bad.. but I guessing newer version is different… thank you
sekarang guna felet arcana 80s 3u - nanoflare 800 / nanoflare 800 pro sesuai x untk upgrade.same feeling x?
sesuai juga. tapi 800 / 800 pro lebih berkepala berat dan shaft lebih stiff tuan.
@@vsmashsports ok2..now arcana pn head heavy. quite difficut to find NF800 3U. Vsmash sport ada stock ke
@@imschannel4266 kami pun out of stock untuk NF800 3U. 😅
@@vsmashsports xpe nnti blh try nf800 pro kot haha
@@imschannel4266 ya try dulu sebelom beli. hehe
Compared to nf 700 ?
NF700 much more lighter and the shaft much more flexible
Finally maybe nak beli saya tuk temani arcsaber 11 pro n 88s pro😂
melihat dua raket di atas, kami rasa 4u sesuai untuk tuan :)
@@vsmashsports hahaha iya saya biase pakai 4u jadi semua raket saya 4u
Wat u say then....1000ZZ is far better in all aspects ???
Except breaking 😂
Personal opinion and feeling if compare to nf1000z. 🤣
😂😂
1000z frame easy to broke..mine tnsion 28lbs..3UG5..29lbs max..
next compare nanoflare 800 old
stay tuneddd... :)
Been using the NANORAY 800 for years now, would this racket be a good upgrade?
Yes, definitely. Because it's super slimmed shaft and wide profile frame, also enhanced sonic flare system.
800 pro or 11pro?
more speed and power = 800 pro sir :)
I hope yonex also release nanoflare 700 pro
yeah.. finger crossed! hihi :)
if compared to arcsaber 11 pro?
NF800 pro is a head light racquet, Arcsaber 11 pro is a balanced racquet. Defend, japping, driving, fast/rapid react wise nf800 pro better.
Tour, game, play pleaseee😅
stay tuneddddd... hihi :)
is switching 1000z to 800 pro worth the upgrade ?
there's no such things call an upgrade, choose which suit you the best
@@beck3740nah..
if you enjoyed playing with 1000z, would suggest you to keep using it.
11pro or this ? 😅😅
800p 4u.. thanks me later
haha. i would choose 11 pro. hee :D
@@vsmashsports arcsaber 11 pro better at control . net play. and smash power i believe?
Waiting for review nanoflare 800 game from vsmash
Stay tuned!
string and tension?
Exbolt 65 at 26lbs 😁
thank you@@vsmashsports for the reply, just wondering why opt for 26lbs and not higher tension?
@@markdextergalang the higher the tension, the lesser sweet spot, require more strenght, string break easily and the protection of the frame. importantly, choose the tension that suitable for ownself. =D
astrox 88s or nanoflare 800pro better haha?
in terms of personal feeling. 800 pro feels more stiffer and a bit difficult for control play.
What string and tension are you using on this racket?
we're using Exbolt 65 | 26LBs sir
@@vsmashsports thank you
sy suka brmain mid to front court utk double, penglaman sy dri mula pakai voltrizf2👉🏻astrx99pro👉🏻arc11pro👉🏻nanflre1000z
bagi sy nanoflare 1000z adlah raket yg serba boleh, ez to use, super speed smash drive, taping, even balance, cuma lack of durability, da 2x patah tnpa trsentuh apa2, tpi sy still beli sbb sy rasa sngt raket ni sngt ssuai utk sy, kmungkinan utk nanoflre 800 pro sy akan skip dlu utk try beli, but for sure akan beli 700 pro sbb biasanya 700 pro lbih ez too use and ada more speed brbanding nanoflre series yg lain
saya boleh sama2 setuju dengan input tuan di atas. 800 pro feelingnya lebih stiff, tapi ada powernya yang tersendiri. 1000z sememangnya raket untuk power dan speed
I've been using Astrox 88s (3u) Skill Gen2 but looking for something to replace as can't get it anymore. Would the NF800 Pro be a good option? I'm a mid-front court player in my 50s. Is NF800Pro have good repulsion and good for both attack and defence? Thank you for the review.
Yes, consider is a good option and good for both attack and defence.
Power speed mana sama 88 d pro
Hi, are you referring if both model Astrox 88D pro and Nanoflare 800 pro has the same speed?
Shaft stiff ke medium stiff ?
Sangat stiff
just curious what strings and tension were u using?
hi. exbolt 65 with 26lbs :)
26x26 / 26x24 / 26x28???
@@Gseckerfers 26x26
Sebelum ini sudah guna Nanoflare 1000Z 3UG6 and Drive, Jab, Defend, Smash Dan Control sangat sedap.. Cumanya nak try 800 Pro adakah hanya kurang dari sudut smashing sahaja, tapi untuk drive, defend,control dan jab 800 Pro lebih dominan? ... Minta pendapat.
tuan boleh ke Vsmash Badminton Academy di subang untuk cuba raket demo kami. pendapat saya..setia dengan 1000z kerana feeling wise overall saya lebih prefer 1000z untuk lebih control dan smashing.
may i know what is the balance point for the 3u ? i want to buy this racket today but i hear a lot that the balance point was 288mm and a bit frustrated bcs to headlight for the 3u version 🥲
The nanoflare series are headlight series, you may choose the 4u since the balance point is around 293mm.
may i know what is the balance point for the 3u ? i want to buy this racket today but i hear a lot that the balance point was 288mm and a bit frustrated bcs to headlight for the 3u version 🥲
The nanoflare series are headlight series, you may choose the 4u since the balance point is around 293mm.